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"I have been looking for my first 3 sum but currently not getting any joy. I'm wondering if the fact I have been honest and said I'm married puts couples off" Fact is that to some you are and always will be a social pariah, a low life to be avoided at all costs and they will vocalize that opinion at every opportunity. However, you must ask yourself, would you really want to play with folk who claim to be liberated sexually but who are so judgemental of others lifestyle? Luckily there are some who have no such hang up and some who actively prefer married guys. For whatever reason. At least you are being open about the fact so those that see you as scum can avoid you. Their choice. Just like some wont play with bearded guys or prefer only black guys it’s a question of choice. Keep being honest with yourself, there are lots of nice folk out there that won’t be put off. _rummps x | |||
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"I have been looking for my first 3 sum but currently not getting any joy. I'm wondering if the fact I have been honest and said I'm married puts couples off Fact is that to some you are and always will be a social pariah, a low life to be avoided at all costs and they will vocalize that opinion at every opportunity. However, you must ask yourself, would you really want to play with folk who claim to be liberated sexually but who are so judgemental of others lifestyle? Luckily there are some who have no such hang up and some who actively prefer married guys. For whatever reason. At least you are being open about the fact so those that see you as scum can avoid you. Their choice. Just like some wont play with bearded guys or prefer only black guys it’s a question of choice. Keep being honest with yourself, there are lots of nice folk out there that won’t be put off. _rummps x " Well said | |||
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"I have been looking for my first 3 sum but currently not getting any joy. I'm wondering if the fact I have been honest and said I'm married puts couples off Fact is that to some you are and always will be a social pariah, a low life to be avoided at all costs and they will vocalize that opinion at every opportunity. However, you must ask yourself, would you really want to play with folk who claim to be liberated sexually but who are so judgemental of others lifestyle? Luckily there are some who have no such hang up and some who actively prefer married guys. For whatever reason. At least you are being open about the fact so those that see you as scum can avoid you. Their choice. Just like some wont play with bearded guys or prefer only black guys it’s a question of choice. Keep being honest with yourself, there are lots of nice folk out there that won’t be put off. _rummps x " Just because you are 'liberated sexually' doesn't mean that you will want to get involved in a situation that could potentially cause someone a lot of pain and heart ache. Personally I wouldnt want to play with a married man as I would be thinking about what would happen if/when his wife found out he was cheating. And the impact that could have on her and the family. Like you say everyone should have a choice in swinging, but their wife (or husband, coz women do cheat too) doesnt have a choice about having a cheating partner. I dont see cheaters as scum but like I said I dont want to get in the middle of someone else relationship. | |||
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"I have been looking for my first 3 sum but currently not getting any joy. I'm wondering if the fact I have been honest and said I'm married puts couples off Fact is that to some you are and always will be a social pariah, a low life to be avoided at all costs and they will vocalize that opinion at every opportunity. However, you must ask yourself, would you really want to play with folk who claim to be liberated sexually but who are so judgemental of others lifestyle? Luckily there are some who have no such hang up and some who actively prefer married guys. For whatever reason. At least you are being open about the fact so those that see you as scum can avoid you. Their choice. Just like some wont play with bearded guys or prefer only black guys it’s a question of choice. Keep being honest with yourself, there are lots of nice folk out there that won’t be put off. _rummps x " So let me get this right...if I have a preference not to allow a married man to use my home as a knocking shop whilst he plays happily families in his I'm not liberated and judgemental?!! If I choose not to play with bi/short/bearded/Dom men I'm not liberated and judgemental?!! Well, I learn something new on these forums every day. | |||
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"I have been looking for my first 3 sum but currently not getting any joy. I'm wondering if the fact I have been honest and said I'm married puts couples off" Have you told your wife that you are having sex with other women? Because if you haven't then irrespective of how many other people you tell this to, then you are not being honest, you are being dishonest. We don't like dishonest people and we certainly wouldn't consider a man who is playing behind his wife's back. And to the poster who thinks that a 'liberated' person wouldn't condemn a dishonest person, we would say, get a dictionary and look up the meaning of the term. | |||
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"I have been looking for my first 3 sum but currently not getting any joy. I'm wondering if the fact I have been honest and said I'm married puts couples off Fact is that to some you are and always will be a social pariah, a low life to be avoided at all costs and they will vocalize that opinion at every opportunity. However, you must ask yourself, would you really want to play with folk who claim to be liberated sexually but who are so judgemental of others lifestyle? Luckily there are some who have no such hang up and some who actively prefer married guys. For whatever reason. At least you are being open about the fact so those that see you as scum can avoid you. Their choice. Just like some wont play with bearded guys or prefer only black guys it’s a question of choice. Keep being honest with yourself, there are lots of nice folk out there that won’t be put off. _rummps x " | |||
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"I have been looking for my first 3 sum but currently not getting any joy. I'm wondering if the fact I have been honest and said I'm married puts couples off" i would say yeah its putting some people off.. if you are doing something behind your wifes back, alot of swingers dont wanna get involved in the drama of that if you get found out. some dont care. we personally dont think its swinging if you cant be honest with your partner about what your doing its cheating. | |||
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"it's a choice not a judgement" That's the way I look at it. I wouldn't dream to lecture a married person on the whys and wherefores of being on this site. I'm not a Relate counsellor - and I simply don't care. I just don't want to play with a married person...been there done that - it wasn't fun for me. You can't wear perfume in case the wife smells it, you can't mark...in case the wife sees it...you can't call outside office hours...in case the wife picks up...you can't go to theirs, but your house is ok to be a knocking shop...where's the fun in that. I set out what I want, other's can set out what they want - if never the twain shall meet have the good grace to accept it and go onto the next one. People who say you're not liberated for having choices do annoy me somewhat. | |||
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"I have been looking for my first 3 sum but currently not getting any joy. I'm wondering if the fact I have been honest and said I'm married puts couples off Fact is that to some you are and always will be a social pariah, a low life to be avoided at all costs and they will vocalize that opinion at every opportunity. However, you must ask yourself, would you really want to play with folk who claim to be liberated sexually but who are so judgemental of others lifestyle? Luckily there are some who have no such hang up and some who actively prefer married guys. For whatever reason. At least you are being open about the fact so those that see you as scum can avoid you. Their choice. Just like some wont play with bearded guys or prefer only black guys it’s a question of choice. Keep being honest with yourself, there are lots of nice folk out there that won’t be put off. _rummps x Just because you are 'liberated sexually' doesn't mean that you will want to get involved in a situation that could potentially cause someone a lot of pain and heart ache. Personally I wouldnt want to play with a married man as I would be thinking about what would happen if/when his wife found out he was cheating. And the impact that could have on her and the family. Like you say everyone should have a choice in swinging, but their wife (or husband, coz women do cheat too) doesnt have a choice about having a cheating partner. I dont see cheaters as scum but like I said I dont want to get in the middle of someone else relationship. " Here here, prefer free singles not someone who might be clock watching nor who have to be careful of perfume, lipstick etc, mustn't forget there is a wife somewhere | |||
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"I have been looking for my first 3 sum but currently not getting any joy. I'm wondering if the fact I have been honest and said I'm married puts couples off" Some , Yes , | |||
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"I have been looking for my first 3 sum but currently not getting any joy. I'm wondering if the fact I have been honest and said I'm married puts couples off Fact is that to some you are and always will be a social pariah, a low life to be avoided at all costs and they will vocalize that opinion at every opportunity. However, you must ask yourself, would you really want to play with folk who claim to be liberated sexually but who are so judgemental of others lifestyle? Luckily there are some who have no such hang up and some who actively prefer married guys. For whatever reason. At least you are being open about the fact so those that see you as scum can avoid you. Their choice. Just like some wont play with bearded guys or prefer only black guys it’s a question of choice. Keep being honest with yourself, there are lots of nice folk out there that won’t be put off. _rummps x " Simple answer; get a divorce then you really are a single guy. Or are you scared of the divorce settlement she might get?. | |||
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"Your missus is cool with it, she had a great time with us last night! Z" ??? | |||
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"guess i should just fetch her along to watch in her wheelchair dont think ive seen the disabled ramp or lift at lechambra although she actually has offered to go " If you have her permission, then thats a different matter. Its the cheats we wont play with x | |||
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"wouldnt be here without her full permission she is still the boss lol" Well said x | |||
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"I have been looking for my first 3 sum but currently not getting any joy. I'm wondering if the fact I have been honest and said I'm married puts couples off it probabley does make them judge you without knowing you and they just label you as a cheat . i myself am married 26 years next year but due to an accident my wife is now disabled not her fault but she now cannot have sex i still need sex so at first i had affairs and it caused nothing but upset to us both so here seems the best way to find sex for me totally upfront .her only fear is i fall in love which i respect and know the diffrence between sex and love and am never going to leave her or stop loving her but i like sex and enjoy sex which she understands and i hope you all do to theres probably a reason everyone is here and we should not just judge without asking " Then put on your profile she agrees with you being here and that people can speak to her first. Many do...Or visit an escort and stop pretending you are a swinger. Dont tho ask for sympathy for choices you have made.Thats called being a grown up. | |||
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"Then put on your profile she agrees with you being here and that people can speak to her first. Many do...Or visit an escort and stop pretending you are a swinger. Dont tho ask for sympathy for choices you have made.Thats called being a grown up. why do i have to put it on my profile just so i get approval and you think i should have to pay for sex by using an escort and as to sympathy wouldent dream of asking anyone or wish any from anyone ime not that shallow and sorry if you think ime pretending to be something ime not ime here for sex arnt you" There are many places to get sex,this however is a swinging site....a owing people to peak to your wife isnt about approval but understanding and respecting that for most swinging is about openness and honesty...yes sex too but we choose yo do it in a certain way,with certain attitudes to others. i think if you just want sex then visiting an escort is the honest thing to do. | |||
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"i state i am married , what i find funny on here is those that state one thing and do another , i have met people with no issues to the fact that i am married but then say they dont meet married , errr bit of a larf really jumping on the forum bandwagon , xx " i assure you the fact some people are hypocritical does not surprise me.However if youpare accusing me,then i think even those foumites who dont like me would agree i am jumping on no bandwagon, i am consistent to the point of boring everyone to tears on this issue. | |||
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"Interesting this thread only mentions cheating men?? Just saying?? If women outnumbered men 10 to 1 would it be role reversal?? " no, read my reply further up and say him/her, for us its the same thing, cheating is cheating male or female it still hurts | |||
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"Interesting this thread only mentions cheating men?? Just saying?? If women outnumbered men 10 to 1 would it be role reversal?? no, read my reply further up and say him/her, for us its the same thing, cheating is cheating male or female it still hurts" True but u are dedfinately in the minority there I think?? | |||
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"Interesting this thread only mentions cheating men?? Just saying?? If women outnumbered men 10 to 1 would it be role reversal?? " Probably because the question was " do couples meet married guys " | |||
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"Ah, OP's monthly weep. If he ever found out what we all see when we click that green arrow...." lol - just let me have a little click! Z | |||
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"Ah, OP's monthly weep. If he ever found out what we all see when we click that green arrow...." I don't get it? What's so fantastic by clicking the green arrow | |||
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"No. In my eyes it begs the question...... "Since when has cheating on a partner become justifiable because someone hangs the swinging hat on it?" To me: If you have an affair with a work colleague..... It's called cheating. If you have a one night stand with someone you pull at ya local....... It's called cheating. If you have a quick shag up the back ally next to Lidl with the checkout girl....... It's called cheating. If you are shagging your next door neighbours spouse while said spouse is at work...... It's called cheating. If you come on to a swingers site and expect sex but haven't told your partner...... It's called cheating. It does make my blood boil to see people cheating and justifying it by saying "I'm swinging" and I'm sorry to piss on ya chips Grummps, but sexual liberation has got nowt to do with people refusing to shag cheaters." + one bloody million | |||
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"Ah, OP's monthly weep. If he ever found out what we all see when we click that green arrow.... I don't get it? What's so fantastic by clicking the green arrow" Shows all previous posts. Z | |||
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"No. In my eyes it begs the question...... "Since when has cheating on a partner become justifiable because someone hangs the swinging hat on it?" To me: If you have an affair with a work colleague..... It's called cheating. If you have a one night stand with someone you pull at ya local....... It's called cheating. If you have a quick shag up the back ally next to Lidl with the checkout girl....... It's called cheating. If you are shagging your next door neighbours spouse while said spouse is at work...... It's called cheating. If you come on to a swingers site and expect sex but haven't told your partner...... It's called cheating. It does make my blood boil to see people cheating and justifying it by saying "I'm swinging" and I'm sorry to piss on ya chips Grummps, but sexual liberation has got nowt to do with people refusing to shag cheaters." One of the best posts ever written on here. I friggin' hate it when folk try and shove "you can't be sexually liberated if you won't shag a man/woman that's playing behind their partners back" down our throats What people choose to do when they are offered 'fun' with a married 'single' is up to them.... I won't judge their choices.... .....but give us a break with the old "you can't be a swinger if you judge and won't meet a cheater" lines | |||
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"No. In my eyes it begs the question...... "Since when has cheating on a partner become justifiable because someone hangs the swinging hat on it?" To me: If you have an affair with a work colleague..... It's called cheating. If you have a one night stand with someone you pull at ya local....... It's called cheating. If you have a quick shag up the back ally next to Lidl with the checkout girl....... It's called cheating. If you are shagging your next door neighbours spouse while said spouse is at work...... It's called cheating. If you come on to a swingers site and expect sex but haven't told your partner...... It's called cheating. It does make my blood boil to see people cheating and justifying it by saying "I'm swinging" and I'm sorry to piss on ya chips Grummps, but sexual liberation has got nowt to do with people refusing to shag cheaters." Sadly it’s not my chips you are pissing on, it’s probably your own. Had you bothered to read and understand the post you refer to, you would have seen that doesn’t at any point claim that “sexual liberation has got ought to do with people refusing to shag cheaters.” What it does question is the constant, self opinionated, judgemental attitude toward others when in reality it is none of their business. If any member doesn’t like the look of another, they are not obliged to meet or even speak to them. Such is the nature of the site. Fortunately none of us have to meet with your approval and we all have a choice. _rummps x. | |||
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"No. In my eyes it begs the question...... "Since when has cheating on a partner become justifiable because someone hangs the swinging hat on it?" To me: If you have an affair with a work colleague..... It's called cheating. If you have a one night stand with someone you pull at ya local....... It's called cheating. If you have a quick shag up the back ally next to Lidl with the checkout girl....... It's called cheating. If you are shagging your next door neighbours spouse while said spouse is at work...... It's called cheating. If you come on to a swingers site and expect sex but haven't told your partner...... It's called cheating. It does make my blood boil to see people cheating and justifying it by saying "I'm swinging" and I'm sorry to piss on ya chips Grummps, but sexual liberation has got nowt to do with people refusing to shag cheaters." "Sadly it’s not my chips you are pissing on, it’s probably your own." I very much doubt that. I stick to my own code and I am very happy with that. "Had you bothered to read and understand the post you refer to, you would have seen that doesn’t at any point claim that “sexual liberation has got ought to do with people refusing to shag cheaters.” " So pray tell...... what your previous quote from your first post on this thread meant....... here it is in case you can't be arsed to go and find it. ""However, you must ask yourself, would you really want to play with folk who claim to be liberated sexually but who are so judgemental of others lifestyle?"" I, and a few others (read above), took it to mean that just because we are sexually liberated that we cannot be judgemental of others lifestyles and ergo, we should shag anyone who takes our asthetic fancy, regardless of whether or not they are likely to embroil us in their own sordid and seedy shinanigans. "What it does question is the constant, self opinionated, judgemental attitude toward others when in reality it is none of their business. " Of course it is our business. What if said partner rings, crying and calling you everthing under the sun because they didn't know that their spouse was cheating. What if you find out that said spouse has taken the kids and walked out. What if you find out said spouse has tried to commit suicide (ok thats extreme but you get my point). What if said spouse is pregnant. What is said spouse has been ill. What if said spouse turns up on your doorstep looking to reek revenge. It can (and does for some) have huge repercusions on their own lives. I've had the woman turn up on the doorstep because a man who perported to be single and showed me his weekday flat, not mentioning that he worked shifts and the wife and kids lived 250 miles away, was her husband of 10 years and she was pregnant. She was in a terrible state and I very nearly got named in a divorce petition....... so yes, it is my fucking business if some lowlife decides they ain't getting it at home and decides to 'cheat' on their unsuspecting partner. "If any member doesn’t like the look of another, they are not obliged to meet or even speak to them. " We are not talking about liking the look of someone, we are talking about honesty, respect and openess. Fancying someone is one thing..... not wanting to play with them, even though they are dam attractive, because they are married, is another. "Such is the nature of the site. Fortunately none of us have to meet with your approval" And some of us don't have to agree with you or meet your approval or your insane suspicions that just because we are liberated sexually, we shouldn't have opinions and we can't be human and judgemental. " and we all have a choice." Exactly. I just wish that the single, but really married or with a partner, whingers on here would give us the choice of not having to read yet another thread about why they ain't getting no meets. And don't tell me to not read if I don't want to see it....... By the time I've opened a thread and realised what it's about, I want to see what others think.......... I think thats why it's called a forum | |||
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"No. In my eyes it begs the question...... "Since when has cheating on a partner become justifiable because someone hangs the swinging hat on it?" To me: If you have an affair with a work colleague..... It's called cheating. If you have a one night stand with someone you pull at ya local....... It's called cheating. If you have a quick shag up the back ally next to Lidl with the checkout girl....... It's called cheating. If you are shagging your next door neighbours spouse while said spouse is at work...... It's called cheating. If you come on to a swingers site and expect sex but haven't told your partner...... It's called cheating. It does make my blood boil to see people cheating and justifying it by saying "I'm swinging" and I'm sorry to piss on ya chips Grummps, but sexual liberation has got nowt to do with people refusing to shag cheaters. Sadly it’s not my chips you are pissing on, it’s probably your own. I very much doubt that. I stick to my own code and I am very happy with that. Had you bothered to read and understand the post you refer to, you would have seen that doesn’t at any point claim that “sexual liberation has got ought to do with people refusing to shag cheaters.” So pray tell...... what your previous quote from your first post on this thread meant....... here it is in case you can't be arsed to go and find it. "However, you must ask yourself, would you really want to play with folk who claim to be liberated sexually but who are so judgemental of others lifestyle?" I, and a few others (read above), took it to mean that just because we are sexually liberated that we cannot be judgemental of others lifestyles and ergo, we should shag anyone who takes our asthetic fancy, regardless of whether or not they are likely to embroil us in their own sordid and seedy shinanigans. What it does question is the constant, self opinionated, judgemental attitude toward others when in reality it is none of their business. Of course it is our business. What if said partner rings, crying and calling you everthing under the sun because they didn't know that their spouse was cheating. What if you find out that said spouse has taken the kids and walked out. What if you find out said spouse has tried to commit suicide (ok thats extreme but you get my point). What if said spouse is pregnant. What is said spouse has been ill. What if said spouse turns up on your doorstep looking to reek revenge. It can (and does for some) have huge repercusions on their own lives. I've had the woman turn up on the doorstep because a man who perported to be single and showed me his weekday flat, not mentioning that he worked shifts and the wife and kids lived 250 miles away, was her husband of 10 years and she was pregnant. She was in a terrible state and I very nearly got named in a divorce petition....... so yes, it is my fucking business if some lowlife decides they ain't getting it at home and decides to 'cheat' on their unsuspecting partner. If any member doesn’t like the look of another, they are not obliged to meet or even speak to them. We are not talking about liking the look of someone, we are talking about honesty, respect and openess. Fancying someone is one thing..... not wanting to play with them, even though they are dam attractive, because they are married, is another. Such is the nature of the site. Fortunately none of us have to meet with your approval And some of us don't have to agree with you or meet your approval or your insane suspicions that just because we are liberated sexually, we shouldn't have opinions and we can't be human and judgemental. and we all have a choice. Exactly. I just wish that the single, but really married or with a partner, whingers on here would give us the choice of not having to read yet another thread about why they ain't getting no meets. And don't tell me to not read if I don't want to see it....... By the time I've opened a thread and realised what it's about, I want to see what others think.......... I think thats why it's called a forum " We all have our crosses to bear. _rummps x. | |||
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"No. In my eyes it begs the question...... "Since when has cheating on a partner become justifiable because someone hangs the swinging hat on it?" To me: If you have an affair with a work colleague..... It's called cheating. If you have a one night stand with someone you pull at ya local....... It's called cheating. If you have a quick shag up the back ally next to Lidl with the checkout girl....... It's called cheating. If you are shagging your next door neighbours spouse while said spouse is at work...... It's called cheating. If you come on to a swingers site and expect sex but haven't told your partner...... It's called cheating. It does make my blood boil to see people cheating and justifying it by saying "I'm swinging" and I'm sorry to piss on ya chips Grummps, but sexual liberation has got nowt to do with people refusing to shag cheaters. Sadly it’s not my chips you are pissing on, it’s probably your own. I very much doubt that. I stick to my own code and I am very happy with that. Had you bothered to read and understand the post you refer to, you would have seen that doesn’t at any point claim that “sexual liberation has got ought to do with people refusing to shag cheaters.” So pray tell...... what your previous quote from your first post on this thread meant....... here it is in case you can't be arsed to go and find it. "However, you must ask yourself, would you really want to play with folk who claim to be liberated sexually but who are so judgemental of others lifestyle?" I, and a few others (read above), took it to mean that just because we are sexually liberated that we cannot be judgemental of others lifestyles and ergo, we should shag anyone who takes our asthetic fancy, regardless of whether or not they are likely to embroil us in their own sordid and seedy shinanigans. What it does question is the constant, self opinionated, judgemental attitude toward others when in reality it is none of their business. Of course it is our business. What if said partner rings, crying and calling you everthing under the sun because they didn't know that their spouse was cheating. What if you find out that said spouse has taken the kids and walked out. What if you find out said spouse has tried to commit suicide (ok thats extreme but you get my point). What if said spouse is pregnant. What is said spouse has been ill. What if said spouse turns up on your doorstep looking to reek revenge. It can (and does for some) have huge repercusions on their own lives. I've had the woman turn up on the doorstep because a man who perported to be single and showed me his weekday flat, not mentioning that he worked shifts and the wife and kids lived 250 miles away, was her husband of 10 years and she was pregnant. She was in a terrible state and I very nearly got named in a divorce petition....... so yes, it is my fucking business if some lowlife decides they ain't getting it at home and decides to 'cheat' on their unsuspecting partner. If any member doesn’t like the look of another, they are not obliged to meet or even speak to them. We are not talking about liking the look of someone, we are talking about honesty, respect and openess. Fancying someone is one thing..... not wanting to play with them, even though they are dam attractive, because they are married, is another. Such is the nature of the site. Fortunately none of us have to meet with your approval And some of us don't have to agree with you or meet your approval or your insane suspicions that just because we are liberated sexually, we shouldn't have opinions and we can't be human and judgemental. and we all have a choice. Exactly. I just wish that the single, but really married or with a partner, whingers on here would give us the choice of not having to read yet another thread about why they ain't getting no meets. And don't tell me to not read if I don't want to see it....... By the time I've opened a thread and realised what it's about, I want to see what others think.......... I think thats why it's called a forum We all have our crosses to bear. _rummps x." True,but some of us dont start forum posts looking for sympathy week after week. | |||
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