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By *erDirtyRockstar OP   Man
over a year ago

buckinghamshire

Bit of a hornets nest this one.

What's people's thoughts on the man? He is clearly an intelligent dude, who speaks his mind, especially on such matters most wouldn't say, but think perhaps.

I am not sure my thoughts on him. Thoughts?

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By *mber and FireCouple
over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

Clearly intelligent? Not sure on that one.

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By *rKeefyMan
over a year ago

Ashton

My best owl impression. Who?

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Clearly intelligent? Not sure on that one. "

Yeah.

Intelligent or not in my mind he's a dangerous arsehole.

Not someone I'd ever encourage people to follow or pay attention to.

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By *ambofkMan
over a year ago

Hamilton

A rich spoiled brat, yes he has some good points but that doesn’t mean his word is law. I personally don’t like him very much at all

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By *istyPeaksCouple
over a year ago

braintree

Hate is a strong word, but it’s a strong contender in this case.

I’m sure he has some good points, but he sure hides them well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I watched him being interviewed by Piers Morgan. I just wanted to hit him around the room.

Total ego head twat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts."

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

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By *hegirlwiththepeachtattooWoman
over a year ago

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Following this thread simply to block anyone supporting him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A"

So there’s no validity at all to anything he’s said? And it’s just him who believes what he says? And why does he need to shut the fuck up exactly? People love the word ‘Incel’ don’t they?

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By *mber and FireCouple
over a year ago

Carmarthenshire


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts."

He's also a role model for many teenage boys and young men all over the world. I've heard - from friends in America who are teachers - they are having to deal with:

"Women belong in the kitchen" and other entry steps into misogyny. These views, when confronted, have all come from A.T.

Is that the sort of viewpoints we want being shared from rolemodels and public figures? Well sure, I guess. If you're a misogynist.

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By *attPaulaCouple
over a year ago

Blackpool


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A"

1. Opinions you don't like don't have to 'shut the fuck up' because you don't like them.

2. What 'behaviour' does he encourage? He's quite brutal with lazy men that aren't prepared to do the work and fix themselves.

3. He's similarly brutal with lazy entitlement and misplaced victimhood among some women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" 1. Opinions you don't like don't have to 'shut the fuck up' because you don't like them.

2. What 'behaviour' does he encourage? He's quite brutal with lazy men that aren't prepared to do the work and fix themselves.

3. He's similarly brutal with lazy entitlement and misplaced victimhood among some women. "

Thank you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Following this thread simply to block anyone supporting him. "

This. Same. He is poison.

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By *attPaulaCouple
over a year ago

Blackpool


"Following this thread simply to block anyone supporting him.

This. Same. He is poison."

Quite possibly. But why, specifically?

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By *ob_nwMan
over a year ago

Cumbria

don't know a lot about the man, not sure where he get's all his money from, if he's got all his money from speaking shite on the internet, he's done well for himself and not as daft as the one's following him. it seems now a day's that more people believe people on social media, more than experts

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By *agerMorganMan
over a year ago

Canvey Island

Never really understand Andrew Tate, the stuff he says is just borderline vulgar.

There are, in my opinion, far FAR better ways of getting points across without resorting to low level swipes at people.

There’s building someone’s confidence and challenging issues in modern society, and then there’s what he’s done which is drinking the dregs out of the barrel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Following this thread simply to block anyone supporting him. "

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By *TJxComboMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts."

I totally agree people would rather hear comforting lies than honest truths, the same thing happened with Kevin Samuels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

He's also a role model for many teenage boys and young men all over the world. I've heard - from friends in America who are teachers - they are having to deal with:

"Women belong in the kitchen" and other entry steps into misogyny. These views, when confronted, have all come from A.T.

Is that the sort of viewpoints we want being shared from rolemodels and public figures? Well sure, I guess. If you're a misogynist."

I can think of far worst role models to be fair, Tate doesn’t believe that women should be in the kitchen, he believes that men should be men and provide for their family etc, he is just old fashioned in that way.

I think I’d rather a young person be taught to provide for their family than listen to rappers who are talking about shooting or knifing people etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t like him or hate him by the way, I just feel that there are far worse people on the internet that people look up to and they do far more damage.

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By *mber and FireCouple
over a year ago

Carmarthenshire


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

He's also a role model for many teenage boys and young men all over the world. I've heard - from friends in America who are teachers - they are having to deal with:

"Women belong in the kitchen" and other entry steps into misogyny. These views, when confronted, have all come from A.T.

Is that the sort of viewpoints we want being shared from rolemodels and public figures? Well sure, I guess. If you're a misogynist.

I can think of far worst role models to be fair, Tate doesn’t believe that women should be in the kitchen, he believes that men should be men and provide for their family etc, he is just old fashioned in that way.

I think I’d rather a young person be taught to provide for their family than listen to rappers who are talking about shooting or knifing people etc. "

I mean, it shouldn't be a choice of bad or worst, should it? The answer is neither. Find good role models, not lesser of evils.

And the rest, you've just picked to support your own opinion and have missed the point a touch.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

He's also a role model for many teenage boys and young men all over the world. I've heard - from friends in America who are teachers - they are having to deal with:

"Women belong in the kitchen" and other entry steps into misogyny. These views, when confronted, have all come from A.T.

Is that the sort of viewpoints we want being shared from rolemodels and public figures? Well sure, I guess. If you're a misogynist.

I can think of far worst role models to be fair, Tate doesn’t believe that women should be in the kitchen, he believes that men should be men and provide for their family etc, he is just old fashioned in that way.

I think I’d rather a young person be taught to provide for their family than listen to rappers who are talking about shooting or knifing people etc. "

Define 'men should be men'.

And what about women who value indepen, equality and providing for themselves?

There's a huge gulf between 'traditional values' and what he promotes. His target audience (and those that put money in his pocket) are single men looking for justification as to why they're single and someone to blame for their own social and emotional inadequacies.

The fact he's seen as mainstream makes him more dangerous than those with similar views.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

He's a nasty piece of work.

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By *TJxComboMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"I don’t like him or hate him by the way, I just feel that there are far worse people on the internet that people look up to and they do far more damage."

So true we see far worse but these people are still given a platform and propelled to the top, clearly there's more going on

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Tate quotes.

"I do know how to administer CPR. However, I will not administer CPR unless you’re a hot female… If you’re some fat dude and you just had a heart attack and I don’t really know you, you’re gonna die… No, not even if you’re a friend…

If you’re my friend, you just can’t be a p*ssy. ‘Well, I had a heart attack’, get the f*ck up. F*cks wrong with you. Go hospital later. Have a drink, cigarette, cup of coffee, back in the game. F*cking having heart attacks near me, you little p*ssy.”

“The masculine perspective is you have to understand that life is war. It’s a war for the female you want. It’s a war for the car you want. It’s a war for the money you want. It’s a war for the status. Masculine life is war.

If you’re a man who doesn’t view life as war, you’re going to lose. Society’s expectations of men is much higher than the societal expectations of females.”

“I think the most important thing anyone can do in their life is have children… When I speak to some of these feminists who’re like ‘I don’t want kids’, I think you are the most miserable stupid b*tch in the world.”

“‘Uh, real men cry and women can cry and men can cry, too, there’s nothing wrong with it.’ And there absolutely is something wrong with it… Life as a man is far more difficult than life as a woman.”

“You can say, ‘my life is less fun, but I still don’t drink alcohol.’ That’s fine, I accept that. But to sit there and say, ‘Oh, I don’t need to drink, I have fun without drinking.’ Then you’re a f*cking liar.

“Females are the ultimate status symbol… People think I’m running around with these h*es because I like sex. That’s nothing to do with the reason why I’m running around with these b*tches. I got these b*tches just so everyone knows who the don is.”

“I go out and f*ck and I come back to her and I don’t care about her and I only love my girl. That’s not cheating, that’s exercise.”

If you think this muppet is a role model then.......

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By *REEPALESTINEMan
over a year ago

derby

Legend in my opinion

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Tate quotes.

"I do know how to administer CPR. However, I will not administer CPR unless you’re a hot female… If you’re some fat dude and you just had a heart attack and I don’t really know you, you’re gonna die… No, not even if you’re a friend…

If you’re my friend, you just can’t be a p*ssy. ‘Well, I had a heart attack’, get the f*ck up. F*cks wrong with you. Go hospital later. Have a drink, cigarette, cup of coffee, back in the game. F*cking having heart attacks near me, you little p*ssy.”

“The masculine perspective is you have to understand that life is war. It’s a war for the female you want. It’s a war for the car you want. It’s a war for the money you want. It’s a war for the status. Masculine life is war.

If you’re a man who doesn’t view life as war, you’re going to lose. Society’s expectations of men is much higher than the societal expectations of females.”

“I think the most important thing anyone can do in their life is have children… When I speak to some of these feminists who’re like ‘I don’t want kids’, I think you are the most miserable stupid b*tch in the world.”

“‘Uh, real men cry and women can cry and men can cry, too, there’s nothing wrong with it.’ And there absolutely is something wrong with it… Life as a man is far more difficult than life as a woman.”

“You can say, ‘my life is less fun, but I still don’t drink alcohol.’ That’s fine, I accept that. But to sit there and say, ‘Oh, I don’t need to drink, I have fun without drinking.’ Then you’re a f*cking liar.

“Females are the ultimate status symbol… People think I’m running around with these h*es because I like sex. That’s nothing to do with the reason why I’m running around with these b*tches. I got these b*tches just so everyone knows who the don is.”

“I go out and f*ck and I come back to her and I don’t care about her and I only love my girl. That’s not cheating, that’s exercise.”

If you think this muppet is a role model then.......

A"

Crumbs. He sounds like an attention seeking child in a man's body. What's caused her m to be so angry? Apart from money.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ..."

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A"

I only know what I've read in this thread and I don't want my day ruined by researching him.

Does he have a lot of success with women?

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A"

You seem to have a lot of hatred inside you for him, almost as if some of the things he says you recognise to be uncomfortable truths.

I would suggest you probably just dont listen to him if he angers you so. Its a freedom we all have

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A

You seem to have a lot of hatred inside you for him, almost as if some of the things he says you recognise to be uncomfortable truths.

I would suggest you probably just dont listen to him if he angers you so. Its a freedom we all have"

I don't hive him a second thought as a person.

But the things he says influence people who often lack the mental capacity to realise how damaging they are.

He's just another predator who preys on the weak, in this case disillusioned single men.

A

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A

You seem to have a lot of hatred inside you for him, almost as if some of the things he says you recognise to be uncomfortable truths.

I would suggest you probably just dont listen to him if he angers you so. Its a freedom we all have"

It's ok to dislike someone whose opinions you find abhorrent isn't it? That is also a freedom we all have. I think if you feel someone holds dangerous opinions the worst thing you can do is keep quiet.

It's ironic that you attempt to shut opposition to him down while advocating for his right to be heard

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A

You seem to have a lot of hatred inside you for him, almost as if some of the things he says you recognise to be uncomfortable truths.

I would suggest you probably just dont listen to him if he angers you so. Its a freedom we all have

It's ok to dislike someone whose opinions you find abhorrent isn't it? That is also a freedom we all have. I think if you feel someone holds dangerous opinions the worst thing you can do is keep quiet.

It's ironic that you attempt to shut opposition to him down while advocating for his right to be heard"

Where am i shutting anyone down?

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A

You seem to have a lot of hatred inside you for him, almost as if some of the things he says you recognise to be uncomfortable truths.

I would suggest you probably just dont listen to him if he angers you so. Its a freedom we all have

I don't hive him a second thought as a person.

But the things he says influence people who often lack the mental capacity to realise how damaging they are.

He's just another predator who preys on the weak, in this case disillusioned single men.

A"

Your use of the word 'disillusioned' is far nicer and i would suggest more helpful than your earlier use of the word 'incel' to describe these men.

Might i suggest you use the former more going forward than the latter.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A

You seem to have a lot of hatred inside you for him, almost as if some of the things he says you recognise to be uncomfortable truths.

I would suggest you probably just dont listen to him if he angers you so. Its a freedom we all have

It's ok to dislike someone whose opinions you find abhorrent isn't it? That is also a freedom we all have. I think if you feel someone holds dangerous opinions the worst thing you can do is keep quiet.

It's ironic that you attempt to shut opposition to him down while advocating for his right to be heard

Where am i shutting anyone down? "

You dismissed his opinion by basically saying if you don't like it don't listen. That precludes further discussion imho

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A

You seem to have a lot of hatred inside you for him, almost as if some of the things he says you recognise to be uncomfortable truths.

I would suggest you probably just dont listen to him if he angers you so. Its a freedom we all have

I don't hive him a second thought as a person.

But the things he says influence people who often lack the mental capacity to realise how damaging they are.

He's just another predator who preys on the weak, in this case disillusioned single men.

A

Your use of the word 'disillusioned' is far nicer and i would suggest more helpful than your earlier use of the word 'incel' to describe these men.

Might i suggest you use the former more going forward than the latter. "

You can suggest what you want.

Many of his followers openly describe themselves as incels and are proud of it.

If the cap fits.....

A

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A

You seem to have a lot of hatred inside you for him, almost as if some of the things he says you recognise to be uncomfortable truths.

I would suggest you probably just dont listen to him if he angers you so. Its a freedom we all have

It's ok to dislike someone whose opinions you find abhorrent isn't it? That is also a freedom we all have. I think if you feel someone holds dangerous opinions the worst thing you can do is keep quiet.

It's ironic that you attempt to shut opposition to him down while advocating for his right to be heard

Where am i shutting anyone down?

You dismissed his opinion by basically saying if you don't like it don't listen. That precludes further discussion imho "

I wasnt dismissing anything. I was just remarking how he seemed to be inciting anger and hatred within the poster, which i think we can all agree is not healthy.

So my recommendation was just to not listen to him then.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A

You seem to have a lot of hatred inside you for him, almost as if some of the things he says you recognise to be uncomfortable truths.

I would suggest you probably just dont listen to him if he angers you so. Its a freedom we all have

It's ok to dislike someone whose opinions you find abhorrent isn't it? That is also a freedom we all have. I think if you feel someone holds dangerous opinions the worst thing you can do is keep quiet.

It's ironic that you attempt to shut opposition to him down while advocating for his right to be heard

Where am i shutting anyone down?

You dismissed his opinion by basically saying if you don't like it don't listen. That precludes further discussion imho

I wasnt dismissing anything. I was just remarking how he seemed to be inciting anger and hatred within the poster, which i think we can all agree is not healthy.

So my recommendation was just to not listen to him then. "

Ah.

The old 'if you ignore it/avoid it it'll go away' logic.

Yeah.

I don't subscribe to that notion I'm afraid.

If these people aren't called out then they thrive.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A

You seem to have a lot of hatred inside you for him, almost as if some of the things he says you recognise to be uncomfortable truths.

I would suggest you probably just dont listen to him if he angers you so. Its a freedom we all have

It's ok to dislike someone whose opinions you find abhorrent isn't it? That is also a freedom we all have. I think if you feel someone holds dangerous opinions the worst thing you can do is keep quiet.

It's ironic that you attempt to shut opposition to him down while advocating for his right to be heard

Where am i shutting anyone down?

You dismissed his opinion by basically saying if you don't like it don't listen. That precludes further discussion imho

I wasnt dismissing anything. I was just remarking how he seemed to be inciting anger and hatred within the poster, which i think we can all agree is not healthy.

So my recommendation was just to not listen to him then. "

Well the discussion seems to be continuing so it's all good.

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By *empting TravelsMan
over a year ago

London

I see him as a symptom of where we are today. So may people are in echo chambers these days and incapable of understanding (not the same as sympathising) the root of another tribe's perspective.

He doesn't speak for me because a traditional monogamous woman is the total opposite of what I most desire in a woman.

However his mirror opposte is no less "blinkered and controversial" in my mind.

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By *illyandjamesCouple
over a year ago

Southampton

He's a toxic scam artist with the world's most fragile ego! The prick can't deal with rejection and instead of looking inward, he just blames women in general. He's just an incel and shouldn't he shouldn't be given a platform.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I see him as a symptom of where we are today. So may people are in echo chambers these days and incapable of understanding (not the same as sympathising) the root of another tribe's perspective.

He doesn't speak for me because a traditional monogamous woman is the total opposite of what I most desire in a woman.

However his mirror opposte is no less "blinkered and controversial" in my mind."

As I said I know very little about him. Can you sum up your take on what he says briefly?

I'm genuinely interested because he seems to cause a stir

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"*him not her. I hope you're not reading this Andrew. As if there's not something in place to check every mention of his name on the net ...

People often say "oh you'd never say that to their face."

I'd gladly tell him F2F what I think kf him. Even though I'd despise being in that close proximity.......

A

You seem to have a lot of hatred inside you for him, almost as if some of the things he says you recognise to be uncomfortable truths.

I would suggest you probably just dont listen to him if he angers you so. Its a freedom we all have

It's ok to dislike someone whose opinions you find abhorrent isn't it? That is also a freedom we all have. I think if you feel someone holds dangerous opinions the worst thing you can do is keep quiet.

It's ironic that you attempt to shut opposition to him down while advocating for his right to be heard

Where am i shutting anyone down?

You dismissed his opinion by basically saying if you don't like it don't listen. That precludes further discussion imho

I wasnt dismissing anything. I was just remarking how he seemed to be inciting anger and hatred within the poster, which i think we can all agree is not healthy.

So my recommendation was just to not listen to him then.

Ah.

The old 'if you ignore it/avoid it it'll go away' logic.

Yeah.

I don't subscribe to that notion I'm afraid.

If these people aren't called out then they thrive.

A"

No im not saying the 'itll go away bit'. I dont advocate somebody being made to 'go away' just because some people dont like it.

I was just advocating for you to avoid him if he irritates or angers you. Or by all means keep listening to him, i dont care either way

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By *ove2PlayLincsCouple
over a year ago

Gainsborough

Thankfully he's easy to ignore

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By *d_321Man
over a year ago

Manchester

EMERGENCY MEETING TOP G!

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

Became aware of the Tates end of 2019 long before they became known to the masses.

Both a breath of fresh air.

Both realists in this feminised, soft, liberal, woke mess we live in.

They speak uncomfortable truths many people can’t handle.

It’s amusing seeing how triggered people get when he speaks objective truths and wakes people up to the realities of the world we currently live in.

Political hit-job in full motion trying to delete these men because very powerful people realise their reach and influence is a direct threat to their objectives.

There’s a lot of people sleepwalking through life.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

He is an excellent salesman.

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By *ouseofhoneyCouple
over a year ago

North West

Have actually met him a few times through work, (sports not webcam haha).

Actually very different in 'real life' and very polite, but clearly obsessed with money and image tho, so I would say 90% is an act to aquire cash from ppl who buy into his stuff.

I do know a few people in need or kids he has helped out with big donations also.

But then again Jimmy Saville was big on charity too so

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By *ittlemisshotbotCouple
over a year ago

near you

He doesn’t say much more than what’s in the lyrics of a lot of popular songs. It’s just not dressed up with fancy cheerful beats.

Some of his stuff is bang on point, some of it is laughable. Only he knows if he’s joking and playing up to the woke culture for exposure or if he means it.

He has no impact on my life so I don’t really care either way.

I find it odd that with the arrest and the lengthy extension of his detainment, something doesn’t sit right, but again, I don’t have all the facts so whatever.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Toxic con artist swallowed by the gullible and those who seek an excuse for why they aren't as famous as him perhaps..?

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Think he's a twat how has coming up with and ideology to weaponizing and monetize.

Opportunist over intelligence.

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By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago

taunton somerset

a very dangerous man who now has a army of men and young men / teenagers following him meaning there are now a overload of sexist men who think they own women ... the problem is now if hes set free all good to those who follow if hes jailed then he will become a martyr for those who are following him making them even more dangerous ..

#justmeopinion

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"a very dangerous man who now has a army of men and young men / teenagers following him meaning there are now a overload of sexist men who think they own women ... the problem is now if hes set free all good to those who follow if hes jailed then he will become a martyr for those who are following him making them even more dangerous ..

#justmeopinion "

'dangerous', 'army of men', 'think they own women'

I think we've crossed the rubicon into the farcicle. Wheres Chris Morris when you need him?

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By *irtysnapperMan
over a year ago

Bromsgrove

He thinks women should be property and he’s a sex trafficker. But yeah, he ‘Tells it like it is’.

What you mean is, you’re a sexist arsehole and because he’s saying this stuff, you think it’s ok to say it too. Bit like Trump.

Tate is a chinless wonder, appealing to weak minded wankers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Became aware of the Tates end of 2019 long before they became known to the masses.

Both a breath of fresh air.

Both realists in this feminised, soft, liberal, woke mess we live in.

They speak uncomfortable truths many people can’t handle.

It’s amusing seeing how triggered people get when he speaks objective truths and wakes people up to the realities of the world we currently live in.

Political hit-job in full motion trying to delete these men because very powerful people realise their reach and influence is a direct threat to their objectives.

There’s a lot of people sleepwalking through life.

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By *exymilf_69Woman
over a year ago

yorkshire

The best thing about this POS is that he’s in prison. Hope he stays there.

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By *anielpiercedMan
over a year ago

by the seaside

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By *anielpiercedMan
over a year ago

by the seaside


"Clearly intelligent? Not sure on that one.

He's very good at marketing himself. Says something controversial that keeps him trending thus making him money. I'd say he's definitely clever just not very likeable and his whole attitude seems fake and based on ways to make him richer. "

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Became aware of the Tates end of 2019 long before they became known to the masses.

Both a breath of fresh air.

Both realists in this feminised, soft, liberal, woke mess we live in.

They speak uncomfortable truths many people can’t handle.

It’s amusing seeing how triggered people get when he speaks objective truths and wakes people up to the realities of the world we currently live in.

Political hit-job in full motion trying to delete these men because very powerful people realise their reach and influence is a direct threat to their objectives.

There’s a lot of people sleepwalking through life.

"

Not meaning to single out this poster.

But it's a good example of how people like Tate, Katie Hopkins, and various other such types get popular and rich from spreading controversial outrage at random stuff like women, "the woke", liberals, Sofies etc.

As someone else mentioned, who knows if he actually believes his own rhubarb or not. It's all for attention and money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I think hes a cunt

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Clearly intelligent? Not sure on that one.

He's very good at marketing himself. Says something controversial that keeps him trending thus making him money. I'd say he's definitely clever just not very likeable and his whole attitude seems fake and based on ways to make him richer.

"

I don’t think he’s clever, the people who like his stuff are just thick.

Can anyone give an example of something insightful or intelligent he’s ever said or done ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He appeals to dysfunctional young men, who think Tate is what a strong masculine role model is, but all he's ever been notable for is being aggressive & controversial. He needs to sell himself as a macho top G so these men would pay to be part of Hustlers University and The War Room. Just $5454 for the latter. Top Grifter for sure.

I think when you really take a look at both Tate Brothers lives, they are just sad men with daddy issues who want to be rich & famous and will do whatever it takes to get there.

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By *ake_holeMan
over a year ago

London

Andrew tate is one of those people who follows up his dogshit opinions with something incredibly basic like 'oh love is really good actually' so people we be like 'OH ACTUALLY HES GOT SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS'

Also he's an absolutely embarrassing man child and has all the posturing of a 12 year old

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By *amantha_JadeWoman
over a year ago

Newcastle

He’s a cock

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By *nicornExplorersCouple
over a year ago

north east

We hear he likes pizza...

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By *cott73Man
over a year ago

brighton

As with everything in today's society, he's just another example of someone targeting vulnerable people to either make money out of, or groom them long term to make money out of them and finally justify his position.

He's the 21st Century's equivalent of a Northern mill owner (without the benefit of producing something people actually need)

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By *riel13Woman
over a year ago

Northampton

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By *riel13Woman
over a year ago

Northampton

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts."

He is one of many who speak up on this there are many more Just Pearly Things is a woman that says this and many other influencers who say things on similar lines. A dew Tate is not a favourite of mine but he does make a point. I have stopped putting women on an undeserved pedestal and it has helped me in some ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was on the fence about him until I found he was charged for breaking a woman's jaw, and this enterprise he's been doing with cam girls and grooming/trafficking them.

His opinion on women is awful. What he says and does to women is awful. There's a reason he went to live in Romania, when he has British and American citizenship and is a millionaire..and it isn't because its cheap.

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By *riel13Woman
over a year ago

Northampton

Ffs!! I can't spell insecurity... But he has issues with that

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By *ake_holeMan
over a year ago

London


"We hear he likes pizza..."

Pizza with a side of prison

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By *irtysnapperMan
over a year ago

Bromsgrove


"Andrew tate is one of those people who follows up his dogshit opinions with something incredibly basic like 'oh love is really good actually' so people we be like 'OH ACTUALLY HES GOT SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS'

Also he's an absolutely embarrassing man child and has all the posturing of a 12 year old"

Haha yes! Jordan Peterson does the same thing. Says something that sounds quite intelligent but is actually pretty obvious, dressed up in pseudo psychology. Then moves onto the bigotry. l And people go ‘Oh he’s really interesting, I agree with some of his stuff, and I ignore the bad bits’. And that’s the classic trick.

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Andrew tate is one of those people who follows up his dogshit opinions with something incredibly basic like 'oh love is really good actually' so people we be like 'OH ACTUALLY HES GOT SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS'

Also he's an absolutely embarrassing man child and has all the posturing of a 12 year old

Haha yes! Jordan Peterson does the same thing. Says something that sounds quite intelligent but is actually pretty obvious, dressed up in pseudo psychology. Then moves onto the bigotry. l And people go ‘Oh he’s really interesting, I agree with some of his stuff, and I ignore the bad bits’. And that’s the classic trick. "

You clearly havent watched much of peterson or attended a lecture of his in person

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By *anielpiercedMan
over a year ago

by the seaside


"Clearly intelligent? Not sure on that one.

He's very good at marketing himself. Says something controversial that keeps him trending thus making him money. I'd say he's definitely clever just not very likeable and his whole attitude seems fake and based on ways to make him richer.

I don’t think he’s clever, the people who like his stuff are just thick.

Can anyone give an example of something insightful or intelligent he’s ever said or done ? "

I meant clever in the money making sense. Appeal to people then reel them in with his ponzi schemes. Bit like the whole Logan Paul/Prime drink. As a person he is an arrogant prick but as a business man he seems to have found a niche. Luckily for me he doesn't register on my radar as.i can't abide that whole social media/Influencer bullshit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The good news is he looks like he is going to get everything he deserves

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A"

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it"

Your balanced summary wont go down well amongst the frothing mouth brigade

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

Your balanced summary wont go down well amongst the frothing mouth brigade"

Describing people who aren't misogynists as "frothing mouth brigade" speaks volumes.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

Your balanced summary wont go down well amongst the frothing mouth brigade"

Balanced?

I see we've moved on from 'woke' and 'snowflake' to 'frothing mouth brigade'.

You can continue to support and advocate for Tate and the shite he spews. That's your prerogative.

But claiming that the scumbag 'holds a mirror up to females and males who take no accountability for their actions' ?? That's somewhat ironic, given the situation Tate currently finds himself in don't you think? I don't recall him taking any responsibility for any of the actions that have found him in jail so far.

Truth hurts, eh?

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it"

And women don't have to handle rejection? It may not be the same as the male version, but we have to "get on with it" oh you're in you're in your late 20's early 30's and married but no children, at a job interview let's give it to the man he's a safer bet. Many women in the workplace have been as you put it a "loosing game" for decades.

How many of the men who defend Andrew Tate have done their best to be top of the chain? How many can afford to buy a house, pay all the bills so women don't have to work? Instead of being angry with the government that it's nearly impossible these days, let's blame women.

And this endless list you describe, don't you think women have it too. Why to do you think there's so many anti ageing products, diets etc targeted at women?

Men and women in this consumerist world we now live in have it hard. There's little point in arguing between the genders. Be better to make the world a better place for us all wouldn't it? And that's not usually found in division I've found.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Bit of a hornets nest this one.

What's people's thoughts on the man? He is clearly an intelligent dude, who speaks his mind, especially on such matters most wouldn't say, but think perhaps.

I am not sure my thoughts on him. Thoughts? "

Wonder if Herdirtyrockstar has any thoughts for himself after 15 weeks of no reply

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By *ig-Bull-EssexMan
over a year ago

Southend

Well this thread did not disappoint.

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I don't know much about him bar a few bits and pieces I have read about him. From what I see he is misogynistic in a lot his views and what he says and that is something I dispise,the same as I despise misandry in women. No one gender is better than the other and anyone who thinks they are not people I tend to want anything to do with.

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

And women don't have to handle rejection? It may not be the same as the male version, but we have to "get on with it" oh you're in you're in your late 20's early 30's and married but no children, at a job interview let's give it to the man he's a safer bet. Many women in the workplace have been as you put it a "loosing game" for decades.

How many of the men who defend Andrew Tate have done their best to be top of the chain? How many can afford to buy a house, pay all the bills so women don't have to work? Instead of being angry with the government that it's nearly impossible these days, let's blame women.

And this endless list you describe, don't you think women have it too. Why to do you think there's so many anti ageing products, diets etc targeted at women?

Men and women in this consumerist world we now live in have it hard. There's little point in arguing between the genders. Be better to make the world a better place for us all wouldn't it? And that's not usually found in division I've found. "

The workplace argument pay disparity again. This has been debunked enough times of late. There was a female CEO owned her own company that tried to employ only women. In a feminist conference that had a load of women complaining about the same thing stood up and said because she employed women she nearly went bankrupt and lost her company because women would not work the hours needed where men would and she had to rehire her company with men.

The kind of disparity you moan about only affects the top 5 percent of the workforce.

It's men that do the heavy dangerous jobs like waste collection labouring working in sewers run powerplants clean streets and so on often for low pay and little appreciation that you wouldn't even look at them or give the time of day to.

Tell me how many times have you approached and asked a man you like out? Who pays for dinner on the first date?

Premature death and suicide is 80% higher in men than women and yet little is ever said of it or noticed. You shame men for having a preference in women yet have no hesitation in doing the same try lookingbat some of the women's preferences and demands to what they look like. You expect men to take you on if you have three or more kids and pay for them and offer nothing in return. Men are opting out of marriage and children because the risk of losing everything I'm divorce isn't worth it.

I had an ex who tried to take my home from me under common law I know women who still take maintainece from ex husband's despite having grown up working children and a job. The law favours women in nearly ball divorce cases and women are the ones instigating it and are more likely to cheat. I move in the partner dance community and see this all the time and boy has it opend my eyes.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

And women don't have to handle rejection? It may not be the same as the male version, but we have to "get on with it" oh you're in you're in your late 20's early 30's and married but no children, at a job interview let's give it to the man he's a safer bet. Many women in the workplace have been as you put it a "loosing game" for decades.

How many of the men who defend Andrew Tate have done their best to be top of the chain? How many can afford to buy a house, pay all the bills so women don't have to work? Instead of being angry with the government that it's nearly impossible these days, let's blame women.

And this endless list you describe, don't you think women have it too. Why to do you think there's so many anti ageing products, diets etc targeted at women?

Men and women in this consumerist world we now live in have it hard. There's little point in arguing between the genders. Be better to make the world a better place for us all wouldn't it? And that's not usually found in division I've found.

The workplace argument pay disparity again. This has been debunked enough times of late. There was a female CEO owned her own company that tried to employ only women. In a feminist conference that had a load of women complaining about the same thing stood up and said because she employed women she nearly went bankrupt and lost her company because women would not work the hours needed where men would and she had to rehire her company with men.

The kind of disparity you moan about only affects the top 5 percent of the workforce.

It's men that do the heavy dangerous jobs like waste collection labouring working in sewers run powerplants clean streets and so on often for low pay and little appreciation that you wouldn't even look at them or give the time of day to.

Tell me how many times have you approached and asked a man you like out? Who pays for dinner on the first date?

Premature death and suicide is 80% higher in men than women and yet little is ever said of it or noticed. You shame men for having a preference in women yet have no hesitation in doing the same try lookingbat some of the women's preferences and demands to what they look like. You expect men to take you on if you have three or more kids and pay for them and offer nothing in return. Men are opting out of marriage and children because the risk of losing everything I'm divorce isn't worth it.

I had an ex who tried to take my home from me under common law I know women who still take maintainece from ex husband's despite having grown up working children and a job. The law favours women in nearly ball divorce cases and women are the ones instigating it and are more likely to cheat. I move in the partner dance community and see this all the time and boy has it opend my eyes.

"

You wrote all that and are looking to meet women?

Good luck with that..........

A

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

Was he in Emmerdale?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

And women don't have to handle rejection? It may not be the same as the male version, but we have to "get on with it" oh you're in you're in your late 20's early 30's and married but no children, at a job interview let's give it to the man he's a safer bet. Many women in the workplace have been as you put it a "loosing game" for decades.

How many of the men who defend Andrew Tate have done their best to be top of the chain? How many can afford to buy a house, pay all the bills so women don't have to work? Instead of being angry with the government that it's nearly impossible these days, let's blame women.

And this endless list you describe, don't you think women have it too. Why to do you think there's so many anti ageing products, diets etc targeted at women?

Men and women in this consumerist world we now live in have it hard. There's little point in arguing between the genders. Be better to make the world a better place for us all wouldn't it? And that's not usually found in division I've found.

The workplace argument pay disparity again. This has been debunked enough times of late. There was a female CEO owned her own company that tried to employ only women. In a feminist conference that had a load of women complaining about the same thing stood up and said because she employed women she nearly went bankrupt and lost her company because women would not work the hours needed where men would and she had to rehire her company with men.

The kind of disparity you moan about only affects the top 5 percent of the workforce.

It's men that do the heavy dangerous jobs like waste collection labouring working in sewers run powerplants clean streets and so on often for low pay and little appreciation that you wouldn't even look at them or give the time of day to.

Tell me how many times have you approached and asked a man you like out? Who pays for dinner on the first date?

Premature death and suicide is 80% higher in men than women and yet little is ever said of it or noticed. You shame men for having a preference in women yet have no hesitation in doing the same try lookingbat some of the women's preferences and demands to what they look like. You expect men to take you on if you have three or more kids and pay for them and offer nothing in return. Men are opting out of marriage and children because the risk of losing everything I'm divorce isn't worth it.

I had an ex who tried to take my home from me under common law I know women who still take maintainece from ex husband's despite having grown up working children and a job. The law favours women in nearly ball divorce cases and women are the ones instigating it and are more likely to cheat. I move in the partner dance community and see this all the time and boy has it opend my eyes.

"

Is this an example of the type of faux intellectual nonsense Tate comes up with, or do you genuinely believe this stuff?

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

And women don't have to handle rejection? It may not be the same as the male version, but we have to "get on with it" oh you're in you're in your late 20's early 30's and married but no children, at a job interview let's give it to the man he's a safer bet. Many women in the workplace have been as you put it a "loosing game" for decades.

How many of the men who defend Andrew Tate have done their best to be top of the chain? How many can afford to buy a house, pay all the bills so women don't have to work? Instead of being angry with the government that it's nearly impossible these days, let's blame women.

And this endless list you describe, don't you think women have it too. Why to do you think there's so many anti ageing products, diets etc targeted at women?

Men and women in this consumerist world we now live in have it hard. There's little point in arguing between the genders. Be better to make the world a better place for us all wouldn't it? And that's not usually found in division I've found.

The workplace argument pay disparity again. This has been debunked enough times of late. There was a female CEO owned her own company that tried to employ only women. In a feminist conference that had a load of women complaining about the same thing stood up and said because she employed women she nearly went bankrupt and lost her company because women would not work the hours needed where men would and she had to rehire her company with men.

The kind of disparity you moan about only affects the top 5 percent of the workforce.

It's men that do the heavy dangerous jobs like waste collection labouring working in sewers run powerplants clean streets and so on often for low pay and little appreciation that you wouldn't even look at them or give the time of day to.

Tell me how many times have you approached and asked a man you like out? Who pays for dinner on the first date?

Premature death and suicide is 80% higher in men than women and yet little is ever said of it or noticed. You shame men for having a preference in women yet have no hesitation in doing the same try lookingbat some of the women's preferences and demands to what they look like. You expect men to take you on if you have three or more kids and pay for them and offer nothing in return. Men are opting out of marriage and children because the risk of losing everything I'm divorce isn't worth it.

I had an ex who tried to take my home from me under common law I know women who still take maintainece from ex husband's despite having grown up working children and a job. The law favours women in nearly ball divorce cases and women are the ones instigating it and are more likely to cheat. I move in the partner dance community and see this all the time and boy has it opend my eyes.

"

Please explain how I shame men? Did I not say that each gender has different issues and that we should all work together regardless of gender to make the world a better place? Or were you too busy to take in that fact and how it is worse for men? Life isn't easy for either gender, but as I clearly stated division isn't going to help anyone.

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman
over a year ago

tf1

Well that’s increased my block list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well that’s increased my block list "

I know - it's really scary that these viewpoints are so prevalent.

Another poster has it right, it's not men having it harder than women, or women having it harder than men - everyone has to face challenges and adversity in life, far better to support each other than antagonise each other. We are all in the same storm, we are just in different boats.

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By *J-87Man
over a year ago

Donington

Sounds a bit of a 'C U next Tuesday '

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

I find it amazing that, on a swingers' site, there are some folk (,mainly guys) who are apparently incapable of distancing themselves from a loud mouthed imbecile who's been charged with human trafficking and is a self proclaimed misogynist (ie woman hater).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find it amazing that, on a swingers' site, there are some folk (,mainly guys) who are apparently incapable of distancing themselves from a loud mouthed imbecile who's been charged with human trafficking and is a self proclaimed misogynist (ie woman hater). "

It is rather remarkable.

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By *amantha_JadeWoman
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Well that’s increased my block list "

Same here

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman
over a year ago

tf1


"Well that’s increased my block list

I know - it's really scary that these viewpoints are so prevalent.

Another poster has it right, it's not men having it harder than women, or women having it harder than men - everyone has to face challenges and adversity in life, far better to support each other than antagonise each other. We are all in the same storm, we are just in different boats. "

I mean the man openly admits to moving to Romania because the sex laws aren’t as strict. He’s currently in prison facing horrendous charges and people are still supporting him. Beggars belief

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Similar to Hitler in the sense he has millions of people listening to him and following what he says as the words of a god.

Clearly he is a good marketer as most people have heard of him its just a shame its for being a dick who preys on impressionable people.

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By *ust Passing ThroughMan
over a year ago

poole

He's a total idiot. I guarantee you he doesn't believe in half the crap he posts. He has just seen a way to make the gullible to part with their cash.

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By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago

taunton somerset


"Well that’s increased my block list

Same here "

and a lot of other i should hope

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By *ootnootboopCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"Well that’s increased my block list

I know - it's really scary that these viewpoints are so prevalent.

Another poster has it right, it's not men having it harder than women, or women having it harder than men - everyone has to face challenges and adversity in life, far better to support each other than antagonise each other. We are all in the same storm, we are just in different boats. "

Couldn't have put it better myself if I tried!

People should be building eachother up to weather the storms in life rather than antagonizing eachother as to who's more hard done by

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

And women don't have to handle rejection? It may not be the same as the male version, but we have to "get on with it" oh you're in you're in your late 20's early 30's and married but no children, at a job interview let's give it to the man he's a safer bet. Many women in the workplace have been as you put it a "loosing game" for decades.

How many of the men who defend Andrew Tate have done their best to be top of the chain? How many can afford to buy a house, pay all the bills so women don't have to work? Instead of being angry with the government that it's nearly impossible these days, let's blame women.

And this endless list you describe, don't you think women have it too. Why to do you think there's so many anti ageing products, diets etc targeted at women?

Men and women in this consumerist world we now live in have it hard. There's little point in arguing between the genders. Be better to make the world a better place for us all wouldn't it? And that's not usually found in division I've found.

The workplace argument pay disparity again. This has been debunked enough times of late. There was a female CEO owned her own company that tried to employ only women. In a feminist conference that had a load of women complaining about the same thing stood up and said because she employed women she nearly went bankrupt and lost her company because women would not work the hours needed where men would and she had to rehire her company with men.

The kind of disparity you moan about only affects the top 5 percent of the workforce.

It's men that do the heavy dangerous jobs like waste collection labouring working in sewers run powerplants clean streets and so on often for low pay and little appreciation that you wouldn't even look at them or give the time of day to.

Tell me how many times have you approached and asked a man you like out? Who pays for dinner on the first date?

Premature death and suicide is 80% higher in men than women and yet little is ever said of it or noticed. You shame men for having a preference in women yet have no hesitation in doing the same try lookingbat some of the women's preferences and demands to what they look like. You expect men to take you on if you have three or more kids and pay for them and offer nothing in return. Men are opting out of marriage and children because the risk of losing everything I'm divorce isn't worth it.

I had an ex who tried to take my home from me under common law I know women who still take maintainece from ex husband's despite having grown up working children and a job. The law favours women in nearly ball divorce cases and women are the ones instigating it and are more likely to cheat. I move in the partner dance community and see this all the time and boy has it opend my eyes.

"

No doubt about it, marriage is a bad deal for men these days. The risk is all on their side

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman
over a year ago

tf1


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

And women don't have to handle rejection? It may not be the same as the male version, but we have to "get on with it" oh you're in you're in your late 20's early 30's and married but no children, at a job interview let's give it to the man he's a safer bet. Many women in the workplace have been as you put it a "loosing game" for decades.

How many of the men who defend Andrew Tate have done their best to be top of the chain? How many can afford to buy a house, pay all the bills so women don't have to work? Instead of being angry with the government that it's nearly impossible these days, let's blame women.

And this endless list you describe, don't you think women have it too. Why to do you think there's so many anti ageing products, diets etc targeted at women?

Men and women in this consumerist world we now live in have it hard. There's little point in arguing between the genders. Be better to make the world a better place for us all wouldn't it? And that's not usually found in division I've found.

The workplace argument pay disparity again. This has been debunked enough times of late. There was a female CEO owned her own company that tried to employ only women. In a feminist conference that had a load of women complaining about the same thing stood up and said because she employed women she nearly went bankrupt and lost her company because women would not work the hours needed where men would and she had to rehire her company with men.

The kind of disparity you moan about only affects the top 5 percent of the workforce.

It's men that do the heavy dangerous jobs like waste collection labouring working in sewers run powerplants clean streets and so on often for low pay and little appreciation that you wouldn't even look at them or give the time of day to.

Tell me how many times have you approached and asked a man you like out? Who pays for dinner on the first date?

Premature death and suicide is 80% higher in men than women and yet little is ever said of it or noticed. You shame men for having a preference in women yet have no hesitation in doing the same try lookingbat some of the women's preferences and demands to what they look like. You expect men to take you on if you have three or more kids and pay for them and offer nothing in return. Men are opting out of marriage and children because the risk of losing everything I'm divorce isn't worth it.

I had an ex who tried to take my home from me under common law I know women who still take maintainece from ex husband's despite having grown up working children and a job. The law favours women in nearly ball divorce cases and women are the ones instigating it and are more likely to cheat. I move in the partner dance community and see this all the time and boy has it opend my eyes.

No doubt about it, marriage is a bad deal for men these days. The risk is all on their side"

How is the risk all on a man’s side ?

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

Your balanced summary wont go down well amongst the frothing mouth brigade

Balanced?

I see we've moved on from 'woke' and 'snowflake' to 'frothing mouth brigade'.

You can continue to support and advocate for Tate and the shite he spews. That's your prerogative.

But claiming that the scumbag 'holds a mirror up to females and males who take no accountability for their actions' ?? That's somewhat ironic, given the situation Tate currently finds himself in don't you think? I don't recall him taking any responsibility for any of the actions that have found him in jail so far.

Truth hurts, eh?

A"

Isnt he proclaiming hes innocent?

Why would he take responsibility for something he says hes innocent of?

Would you?

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

And women don't have to handle rejection? It may not be the same as the male version, but we have to "get on with it" oh you're in you're in your late 20's early 30's and married but no children, at a job interview let's give it to the man he's a safer bet. Many women in the workplace have been as you put it a "loosing game" for decades.

How many of the men who defend Andrew Tate have done their best to be top of the chain? How many can afford to buy a house, pay all the bills so women don't have to work? Instead of being angry with the government that it's nearly impossible these days, let's blame women.

And this endless list you describe, don't you think women have it too. Why to do you think there's so many anti ageing products, diets etc targeted at women?

Men and women in this consumerist world we now live in have it hard. There's little point in arguing between the genders. Be better to make the world a better place for us all wouldn't it? And that's not usually found in division I've found.

The workplace argument pay disparity again. This has been debunked enough times of late. There was a female CEO owned her own company that tried to employ only women. In a feminist conference that had a load of women complaining about the same thing stood up and said because she employed women she nearly went bankrupt and lost her company because women would not work the hours needed where men would and she had to rehire her company with men.

The kind of disparity you moan about only affects the top 5 percent of the workforce.

It's men that do the heavy dangerous jobs like waste collection labouring working in sewers run powerplants clean streets and so on often for low pay and little appreciation that you wouldn't even look at them or give the time of day to.

Tell me how many times have you approached and asked a man you like out? Who pays for dinner on the first date?

Premature death and suicide is 80% higher in men than women and yet little is ever said of it or noticed. You shame men for having a preference in women yet have no hesitation in doing the same try lookingbat some of the women's preferences and demands to what they look like. You expect men to take you on if you have three or more kids and pay for them and offer nothing in return. Men are opting out of marriage and children because the risk of losing everything I'm divorce isn't worth it.

I had an ex who tried to take my home from me under common law I know women who still take maintainece from ex husband's despite having grown up working children and a job. The law favours women in nearly ball divorce cases and women are the ones instigating it and are more likely to cheat. I move in the partner dance community and see this all the time and boy has it opend my eyes.

No doubt about it, marriage is a bad deal for men these days. The risk is all on their side

How is the risk all on a man’s side ? "

House, kids, assets. Men will not retain these in the event of a divorce

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman
over a year ago

tf1


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

And women don't have to handle rejection? It may not be the same as the male version, but we have to "get on with it" oh you're in you're in your late 20's early 30's and married but no children, at a job interview let's give it to the man he's a safer bet. Many women in the workplace have been as you put it a "loosing game" for decades.

How many of the men who defend Andrew Tate have done their best to be top of the chain? How many can afford to buy a house, pay all the bills so women don't have to work? Instead of being angry with the government that it's nearly impossible these days, let's blame women.

And this endless list you describe, don't you think women have it too. Why to do you think there's so many anti ageing products, diets etc targeted at women?

Men and women in this consumerist world we now live in have it hard. There's little point in arguing between the genders. Be better to make the world a better place for us all wouldn't it? And that's not usually found in division I've found.

The workplace argument pay disparity again. This has been debunked enough times of late. There was a female CEO owned her own company that tried to employ only women. In a feminist conference that had a load of women complaining about the same thing stood up and said because she employed women she nearly went bankrupt and lost her company because women would not work the hours needed where men would and she had to rehire her company with men.

The kind of disparity you moan about only affects the top 5 percent of the workforce.

It's men that do the heavy dangerous jobs like waste collection labouring working in sewers run powerplants clean streets and so on often for low pay and little appreciation that you wouldn't even look at them or give the time of day to.

Tell me how many times have you approached and asked a man you like out? Who pays for dinner on the first date?

Premature death and suicide is 80% higher in men than women and yet little is ever said of it or noticed. You shame men for having a preference in women yet have no hesitation in doing the same try lookingbat some of the women's preferences and demands to what they look like. You expect men to take you on if you have three or more kids and pay for them and offer nothing in return. Men are opting out of marriage and children because the risk of losing everything I'm divorce isn't worth it.

I had an ex who tried to take my home from me under common law I know women who still take maintainece from ex husband's despite having grown up working children and a job. The law favours women in nearly ball divorce cases and women are the ones instigating it and are more likely to cheat. I move in the partner dance community and see this all the time and boy has it opend my eyes.

No doubt about it, marriage is a bad deal for men these days. The risk is all on their side

How is the risk all on a man’s side ?

House, kids, assets. Men will not retain these in the event of a divorce"

Rubbish. The starting point is equality. The housing needs of the children are priority.

A woman being a stay at home parent makes just as much of a contribution to a marriage as a man working full time.

And you do know that if the woman owns the house and the pension she has to hand it over as well.

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

And women don't have to handle rejection? It may not be the same as the male version, but we have to "get on with it" oh you're in you're in your late 20's early 30's and married but no children, at a job interview let's give it to the man he's a safer bet. Many women in the workplace have been as you put it a "loosing game" for decades.

How many of the men who defend Andrew Tate have done their best to be top of the chain? How many can afford to buy a house, pay all the bills so women don't have to work? Instead of being angry with the government that it's nearly impossible these days, let's blame women.

And this endless list you describe, don't you think women have it too. Why to do you think there's so many anti ageing products, diets etc targeted at women?

Men and women in this consumerist world we now live in have it hard. There's little point in arguing between the genders. Be better to make the world a better place for us all wouldn't it? And that's not usually found in division I've found.

The workplace argument pay disparity again. This has been debunked enough times of late. There was a female CEO owned her own company that tried to employ only women. In a feminist conference that had a load of women complaining about the same thing stood up and said because she employed women she nearly went bankrupt and lost her company because women would not work the hours needed where men would and she had to rehire her company with men.

The kind of disparity you moan about only affects the top 5 percent of the workforce.

It's men that do the heavy dangerous jobs like waste collection labouring working in sewers run powerplants clean streets and so on often for low pay and little appreciation that you wouldn't even look at them or give the time of day to.

Tell me how many times have you approached and asked a man you like out? Who pays for dinner on the first date?

Premature death and suicide is 80% higher in men than women and yet little is ever said of it or noticed. You shame men for having a preference in women yet have no hesitation in doing the same try lookingbat some of the women's preferences and demands to what they look like. You expect men to take you on if you have three or more kids and pay for them and offer nothing in return. Men are opting out of marriage and children because the risk of losing everything I'm divorce isn't worth it.

I had an ex who tried to take my home from me under common law I know women who still take maintainece from ex husband's despite having grown up working children and a job. The law favours women in nearly ball divorce cases and women are the ones instigating it and are more likely to cheat. I move in the partner dance community and see this all the time and boy has it opend my eyes.

No doubt about it, marriage is a bad deal for men these days. The risk is all on their side

How is the risk all on a man’s side ?

House, kids, assets. Men will not retain these in the event of a divorce

Rubbish. The starting point is equality. The housing needs of the children are priority.

A woman being a stay at home parent makes just as much of a contribution to a marriage as a man working full time.

And you do know that if the woman owns the house and the pension she has to hand it over as well.

"

Youre delusional

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By *illloganMan
over a year ago

Essex

Hilarious thread.

As per the interviews with random women on social media, most women have no clue what misogyny even means and they hate tate because the media told them to.

It's fine to cheer on strong independant women, but if a man wants to be strong, masculine and provide for his family its seen as toxic.

The double standards are rife.

Large majority of people in this thread have clearly just read tate headlines.

Those that have seen a video or 2 clearly can't see the difference between the character tate portrays to get the views and his real core values.

Tate has high standards for himself and those around him and its amusing how it rubs so many up the wrong way.

I stand with tate on a lot of what he says about the world and his values, if it makes me toxic to want to be masculine, cool, I'm toxic, But take your feminism with you when you block me.

My personal opinion of him being imprisoned is that its a set up, firing a shot at the granddaughter of a rothschild was the final blow, he is being silenced just like many were during the pandemic for speaking out against the governments.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Clearly intelligent? Not sure on that one.

He's very good at marketing himself. Says something controversial that keeps him trending thus making him money. I'd say he's definitely clever just not very likeable and his whole attitude seems fake and based on ways to make him richer.

I don’t think he’s clever, the people who like his stuff are just thick.

Can anyone give an example of something insightful or intelligent he’s ever said or done ?

I meant clever in the money making sense. Appeal to people then reel them in with his ponzi schemes. Bit like the whole Logan Paul/Prime drink. As a person he is an arrogant prick but as a business man he seems to have found a niche. Luckily for me he doesn't register on my radar as.i can't abide that whole social media/Influencer bullshit."

It’s not a niche - look at his track record of failed cams and gambling businesses and then setting up when laws are more relaxed progressing into exploitation to wash illegally made money. It’s jusr a choice to go into those dodgy sectors and exploit women and vulnerable people adducted to porn and gambling

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

Your balanced summary wont go down well amongst the frothing mouth brigade

Balanced?

I see we've moved on from 'woke' and 'snowflake' to 'frothing mouth brigade'.

You can continue to support and advocate for Tate and the shite he spews. That's your prerogative.

But claiming that the scumbag 'holds a mirror up to females and males who take no accountability for their actions' ?? That's somewhat ironic, given the situation Tate currently finds himself in don't you think? I don't recall him taking any responsibility for any of the actions that have found him in jail so far.

Truth hurts, eh?

A

Isnt he proclaiming hes innocent?

Why would he take responsibility for something he says hes innocent of?

Would you? "

He literally said that he moved to Romania because police would be less likely to investigate sexual assault allegations and that corruption was available to anyone there.

He's responsible for the position hes found himself in yet refuses to accept that and instead chooses to claim it's a conspiracy against him . Whether he thinks he's innocent or not is irrelevant. His actions have resulted in him being jailed. Nobody else's. Except his brother of course.

A

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

Your balanced summary wont go down well amongst the frothing mouth brigade

Balanced?

I see we've moved on from 'woke' and 'snowflake' to 'frothing mouth brigade'.

You can continue to support and advocate for Tate and the shite he spews. That's your prerogative.

But claiming that the scumbag 'holds a mirror up to females and males who take no accountability for their actions' ?? That's somewhat ironic, given the situation Tate currently finds himself in don't you think? I don't recall him taking any responsibility for any of the actions that have found him in jail so far.

Truth hurts, eh?

A

Isnt he proclaiming hes innocent?

Why would he take responsibility for something he says hes innocent of?

Would you?

He literally said that he moved to Romania because police would be less likely to investigate sexual assault allegations and that corruption was available to anyone there.

He's responsible for the position hes found himself in yet refuses to accept that and instead chooses to claim it's a conspiracy against him . Whether he thinks he's innocent or not is irrelevant. His actions have resulted in him being jailed. Nobody else's. Except his brother of course.

A"

'whether he thinks hes innocent or not is irrelevant'

Eh, what?

So what is relevant then, whether you think hes innocent or not then, is it?

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Hilarious thread.

As per the interviews with random women on social media, most women have no clue what misogyny even means and they hate tate because the media told them to.

It's fine to cheer on strong independant women, but if a man wants to be strong, masculine and provide for his family its seen as toxic.

The double standards are rife.

Large majority of people in this thread have clearly just read tate headlines.

Those that have seen a video or 2 clearly can't see the difference between the character tate portrays to get the views and his real core values.

Tate has high standards for himself and those around him and its amusing how it rubs so many up the wrong way.

I stand with tate on a lot of what he says about the world and his values, if it makes me toxic to want to be masculine, cool, I'm toxic, But take your feminism with you when you block me.

My personal opinion of him being imprisoned is that its a set up, firing a shot at the granddaughter of a rothschild was the final blow, he is being silenced just like many were during the pandemic for speaking out against the governments.

"

People hate Tate because the media told them to?

No.

They made their own minds up. But keep drinking the Tate kool aid.......

A

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

Your balanced summary wont go down well amongst the frothing mouth brigade

Balanced?

I see we've moved on from 'woke' and 'snowflake' to 'frothing mouth brigade'.

You can continue to support and advocate for Tate and the shite he spews. That's your prerogative.

But claiming that the scumbag 'holds a mirror up to females and males who take no accountability for their actions' ?? That's somewhat ironic, given the situation Tate currently finds himself in don't you think? I don't recall him taking any responsibility for any of the actions that have found him in jail so far.

Truth hurts, eh?

A

Isnt he proclaiming hes innocent?

Why would he take responsibility for something he says hes innocent of?

Would you?

He literally said that he moved to Romania because police would be less likely to investigate sexual assault allegations and that corruption was available to anyone there.

He's responsible for the position hes found himself in yet refuses to accept that and instead chooses to claim it's a conspiracy against him . Whether he thinks he's innocent or not is irrelevant. His actions have resulted in him being jailed. Nobody else's. Except his brother of course.

A

'whether he thinks hes innocent or not is irrelevant'

Eh, what?

So what is relevant then, whether you think hes innocent or not then, is it? "

Nope. My opinion is irrelevant.

But I'm not the one sat in jail accused of trafficking women, organised crime, assault, potentially r*pe (as someone has been accused but not idetified), based on witness statements, videos, text messages etc.........

Seems he was wrong about how lax the laws in Romanis are eh.....

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over a year ago

Tate just says common sense stuff but gets worshipped like a hero kinda like that Jordan Peterson lol

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

Your balanced summary wont go down well amongst the frothing mouth brigade

Balanced?

I see we've moved on from 'woke' and 'snowflake' to 'frothing mouth brigade'.

You can continue to support and advocate for Tate and the shite he spews. That's your prerogative.

But claiming that the scumbag 'holds a mirror up to females and males who take no accountability for their actions' ?? That's somewhat ironic, given the situation Tate currently finds himself in don't you think? I don't recall him taking any responsibility for any of the actions that have found him in jail so far.

Truth hurts, eh?

A

Isnt he proclaiming hes innocent?

Why would he take responsibility for something he says hes innocent of?

Would you?

He literally said that he moved to Romania because police would be less likely to investigate sexual assault allegations and that corruption was available to anyone there.

He's responsible for the position hes found himself in yet refuses to accept that and instead chooses to claim it's a conspiracy against him . Whether he thinks he's innocent or not is irrelevant. His actions have resulted in him being jailed. Nobody else's. Except his brother of course.

A

'whether he thinks hes innocent or not is irrelevant'

Eh, what?

So what is relevant then, whether you think hes innocent or not then, is it?

Nope. My opinion is irrelevant.

But I'm not the one sat in jail accused of trafficking women, organised crime, assault, potentially r*pe (as someone has been accused but not idetified), based on witness statements, videos, text messages etc.........

Seems he was wrong about how lax the laws in Romanis are eh.....

A"

Ive no idea about any of that and couldnt care less.

You stated above he refuses to take responsibility for the actions that have gotten him in jail. Until he is found guilty of those actions in a court of law then why should he be taking responsibility for them when he denies them?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Andrew Tate holds a mirror up to females (mostly) and males who take no accountability for their actions and shares his blunt observations, unapologetically. A lot of women don’t like Tate because of his “misogyny” (I don’t think some of them even understand the word), and due to him being the reason many guys are waking up, realizing that they’re getting left in the dirt because many women are cutthroat and hypergamous (which some will lie and say is false, when it’s not necessarily a bad thing). What he’s saying is nothing really new, but it’s with a tone harsh enough to cut through. His aim is to motivate guys to step their game up and better their lifestyle. Lying women are being exposed is all – and some don’t like it. Truth hurts.

It's not the truth though. It's his opinion.

And it's one that encourages the behaviour of men who can't handle rejection and who have a strange sense of entitlement.

He's an incel hero and someone who needs to shut the fuck up.

A

It's nothing to do with men who can't face rejection. Every man that ever lived has to put up with rejection. We are expected to internalise it and get on with it and we do.

What he and many are saying is why play a losing game. The Red Pill MGTOW movement are saying that its better for am man ro make the best version of himself concentrate on his job/ career, take care of his physical and mental health, enjoy his pastimes and look for relationships where a woman too has something to offer not just sex. I have run around, put women on a pedestal, and brought into the toxic side if feminism.

Women who are only interested in men for what job they do, how much money they earn their job status how big a house they have how tall they are and ghe list goes on.

Yet they themselves bring nothing to a relationship.

A lot of men are waking ip to this Andrew Tate is yes a more loud in yiur face about this but he isn't wrong. Dosnt mean I like him. Just that I understand it

And women don't have to handle rejection? It may not be the same as the male version, but we have to "get on with it" oh you're in you're in your late 20's early 30's and married but no children, at a job interview let's give it to the man he's a safer bet. Many women in the workplace have been as you put it a "loosing game" for decades.

How many of the men who defend Andrew Tate have done their best to be top of the chain? How many can afford to buy a house, pay all the bills so women don't have to work? Instead of being angry with the government that it's nearly impossible these days, let's blame women.

And this endless list you describe, don't you think women have it too. Why to do you think there's so many anti ageing products, diets etc targeted at women?

Men and women in this consumerist world we now live in have it hard. There's little point in arguing between the genders. Be better to make the world a better place for us all wouldn't it? And that's not usually found in division I've found.

The workplace argument pay disparity again. This has been debunked enough times of late. There was a female CEO owned her own company that tried to employ only women. In a feminist conference that had a load of women complaining about the same thing stood up and said because she employed women she nearly went bankrupt and lost her company because women would not work the hours needed where men would and she had to rehire her company with men.

The kind of disparity you moan about only affects the top 5 percent of the workforce.

It's men that do the heavy dangerous jobs like waste collection labouring working in sewers run powerplants clean streets and so on often for low pay and little appreciation that you wouldn't even look at them or give the time of day to.

Tell me how many times have you approached and asked a man you like out? Who pays for dinner on the first date?

Premature death and suicide is 80% higher in men than women and yet little is ever said of it or noticed. You shame men for having a preference in women yet have no hesitation in doing the same try lookingbat some of the women's preferences and demands to what they look like. You expect men to take you on if you have three or more kids and pay for them and offer nothing in return. Men are opting out of marriage and children because the risk of losing everything I'm divorce isn't worth it.

I had an ex who tried to take my home from me under common law I know women who still take maintainece from ex husband's despite having grown up working children and a job. The law favours women in nearly ball divorce cases and women are the ones instigating it and are more likely to cheat. I move in the partner dance community and see this all the time and boy has it opend my eyes.

No doubt about it, marriage is a bad deal for men these days. The risk is all on their side

How is the risk all on a man’s side ?

House, kids, assets. Men will not retain these in the event of a divorce

Rubbish. The starting point is equality. The housing needs of the children are priority.

A woman being a stay at home parent makes just as much of a contribution to a marriage as a man working full time.

And you do know that if the woman owns the house and the pension she has to hand it over as well.

Youre delusional"

And your totally ignorant of the law or as it looks by your posts your pushing an agenda..

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By *hil most chillMan
over a year ago

South East & Europe

It's funny how threads like this about men like Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson etc always bring out the same dudes defending them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A week chinned arsehole that gives men a bad name. And about as intelligent as a house brick. Foul human that deserves all the punishment the Romanian police/government throw at him.

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over a year ago


"A week chinned arsehole that gives men a bad name. And about as intelligent as a house brick. Foul human that deserves all the punishment the Romanian police/government throw at him. "

Weak chinned the guy was a kick boxing champ

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's funny how threads like this about men like Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson etc always bring out the same dudes defending them "

Not even a fan of Peterson or tate don’t act like you know shit about me lol

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"Tate just says common sense stuff but gets worshipped like a hero kinda like that Jordan Peterson lol"

Yes, it's common sense to only date 20 year old women because...umm because?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In rigged competitions, do some research before making yourself look like a dick for sticking up for a piece of shit like Tate. His kickboxing record is a joke to anyone withing the martial arts community. The guy is an absolute mockery of what it is to be a man. And people that support and defend him are just as bad. Allowing this twat to be given a platform to spout his brand of bullshit is a farce. The incels and white knights can defend him all you like, sad sad people.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Tate just says common sense stuff but gets worshipped like a hero kinda like that Jordan Peterson lol

Yes, it's common sense to only date 20 year old women because...umm because?"

That and contacting girls as young as 16….. it’s almost grooming now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tate just says common sense stuff but gets worshipped like a hero kinda like that Jordan Peterson lol

Yes, it's common sense to only date 20 year old women because...umm because?"

Because people get married to start families and 30+ women struggle to conceive sometimes don’t understand why you have a problem with a man having a preference for women in there twenties it’s a legal age they’re older enough to make decisions you shouldn’t take someone preferences personally lmao

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By *amantha_JadeWoman
over a year ago

Newcastle


"It's funny how threads like this about men like Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson etc always bring out the same dudes defending them "

100%... there’s a couple of others I’m expecting to pipe up in a bit. I wish there was a ‘poll’ option on Fab so they were even easier to round up in one place

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"It's funny how threads like this about men like Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson etc always bring out the same dudes defending them "

Jordan peterson needs defending?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In rigged competitions, do some research before making yourself look like a dick for sticking up for a piece of shit like Tate. His kickboxing record is a joke to anyone withing the martial arts community. The guy is an absolute mockery of what it is to be a man. And people that support and defend him are just as bad. Allowing this twat to be given a platform to spout his brand of bullshit is a farce. The incels and white knights can defend him all you like, sad sad people."

Actually it’s incels and white knights who whine about home plus I don’t actually like the man and you don’t become a kick boxing champ for nothing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In rigged competitions, do some research before making yourself look like a dick for sticking up for a piece of shit like Tate. His kickboxing record is a joke to anyone withing the martial arts community. The guy is an absolute mockery of what it is to be a man. And people that support and defend him are just as bad. Allowing this twat to be given a platform to spout his brand of bullshit is a farce. The incels and white knights can defend him all you like, sad sad people."

you’re literally a do you even lift bro? And you call other people sad for having opinions that differ from yours lmao

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Maybe he's been misquoted and the arrests are all part of a plan by the Romanian justice system which has been taken over by a combination of feminazis and snowflakes..

And those of my fellow males who support his views, just how comfortable are you in repeating them to your mum's, sisters, aunts etc..?

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By *illyandjamesCouple
over a year ago

Southampton

The man's a sex trafficker... Why is there even a debate?

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

It's odd people can be so empty they idolise someone at the extreme fringe of life to make themselves whole.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The man's a sex trafficker... Why is there even a debate? "

Proof?

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"Tate just says common sense stuff but gets worshipped like a hero kinda like that Jordan Peterson lol

Yes, it's common sense to only date 20 year old women because...umm because?

Because people get married to start families and 30+ women struggle to conceive sometimes don’t understand why you have a problem with a man having a preference for women in there twenties it’s a legal age they’re older enough to make decisions you shouldn’t take someone preferences personally lmao"

So he goes from one young woman to another because he wants them to have his babies?

Also, women in their 30s don't tend to struggle to conceive.

Why do you think he only dates young women?

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"It's odd people can be so empty they idolise someone at the extreme fringe of life to make themselves whole. "

Its probably not a good idea to idolise any human being at all, regardless of their perceived position on the social spectrum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tate just says common sense stuff but gets worshipped like a hero kinda like that Jordan Peterson lol

Yes, it's common sense to only date 20 year old women because...umm because?

Because people get married to start families and 30+ women struggle to conceive sometimes don’t understand why you have a problem with a man having a preference for women in there twenties it’s a legal age they’re older enough to make decisions you shouldn’t take someone preferences personally lmao

So he goes from one young woman to another because he wants them to have his babies?

Also, women in their 30s don't tend to struggle to conceive.

Why do you think he only dates young women? "

I imagine he has a preference some people like blonds, brunettes, skinny, curvy, older, younger etc why you so bothered by who he dates it ain’t even your business really I don’t care if a forty year old woman dates a twenty yr old guy it doesn’t really matter

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Tate just says common sense stuff but gets worshipped like a hero kinda like that Jordan Peterson lol

Yes, it's common sense to only date 20 year old women because...umm because?

Because people get married to start families and 30+ women struggle to conceive sometimes don’t understand why you have a problem with a man having a preference for women in there twenties it’s a legal age they’re older enough to make decisions you shouldn’t take someone preferences personally lmao

So he goes from one young woman to another because he wants them to have his babies?

Also, women in their 30s don't tend to struggle to conceive.

Why do you think he only dates young women? "

Because they're generally hotter?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's odd people can be so empty they idolise someone at the extreme fringe of life to make themselves whole.

Its probably not a good idea to idolise any human being at all, regardless of their perceived position on the social spectrum"

Definitely true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hilarious thread.

As per the interviews with random women on social media, most women have no clue what misogyny even means and they hate tate because the media told them to.

It's fine to cheer on strong independant women, but if a man wants to be strong, masculine and provide for his family its seen as toxic.

The double standards are rife.

Large majority of people in this thread have clearly just read tate headlines.

Those that have seen a video or 2 clearly can't see the difference between the character tate portrays to get the views and his real core values.

Tate has high standards for himself and those around him and its amusing how it rubs so many up the wrong way.

I stand with tate on a lot of what he says about the world and his values, if it makes me toxic to want to be masculine, cool, I'm toxic, But take your feminism with you when you block me.

My personal opinion of him being imprisoned is that its a set up, firing a shot at the granddaughter of a rothschild was the final blow, he is being silenced just like many were during the pandemic for speaking out against the governments.

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Your tinfoil hat might be a bit tight. Best to loosen it off a bit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nice to see so many stalkers here lol

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"It's odd people can be so empty they idolise someone at the extreme fringe of life to make themselves whole.

Its probably not a good idea to idolise any human being at all, regardless of their perceived position on the social spectrum"

Reading this thread it's a shame I had to point it out

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"

Both realists in this feminised, soft, liberal, woke mess we live in.

"

What does this even mean?

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"It's odd people can be so empty they idolise someone at the extreme fringe of life to make themselves whole.

Its probably not a good idea to idolise any human being at all, regardless of their perceived position on the social spectrum

Definitely true "

Definitely a spectrum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Both realists in this feminised, soft, liberal, woke mess we live in.

What does this even mean?"

The dude literally wrote this in plain English lano

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's odd people can be so empty they idolise someone at the extreme fringe of life to make themselves whole.

Its probably not a good idea to idolise any human being at all, regardless of their perceived position on the social spectrum

Definitely true

Definitely a spectrum"

Definitely a stalker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nice to see so many stalkers here lol

You're a Muppet pal. It's pathetic really, and you think that you're being seen in a good light.

If your opinion is that he's done nothing wrong, you need to have a good look at yourself and work out where it all went wrong. Red flags galore in this thread."

You’re a s1mp you have to resort to harassment because someone says something you don’t like little keyboard warrior

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a clown show"

You’re self projecting

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"It's odd people can be so empty they idolise someone at the extreme fringe of life to make themselves whole.

Its probably not a good idea to idolise any human being at all, regardless of their perceived position on the social spectrum

Reading this thread it's a shame I had to point it out"

I dont think you had to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

“Tourner dans le vide” is all I can hear over the screaming of these goddamn Lesbos on here

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin


"Nice to see so many stalkers here lol

You're a Muppet pal. It's pathetic really, and you think that you're being seen in a good light.

If your opinion is that he's done nothing wrong, you need to have a good look at yourself and work out where it all went wrong. Red flags galore in this thread."

No need for the abuse. I dont think he directed any at you so not sure why you're directing any at him

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"Hilarious thread.

As per the interviews with random women on social media, most women have no clue what misogyny even means and they hate tate because the media told them to.

It's fine to cheer on strong independant women, but if a man wants to be strong, masculine and provide for his family its seen as toxic.

The double standards are rife.

Large majority of people in this thread have clearly just read tate headlines.

Those that have seen a video or 2 clearly can't see the difference between the character tate portrays to get the views and his real core values.

Tate has high standards for himself and those around him and its amusing how it rubs so many up the wrong way.

I stand with tate on a lot of what he says about the world and his values, if it makes me toxic to want to be masculine, cool, I'm toxic, But take your feminism with you when you block me.

My personal opinion of him being imprisoned is that its a set up, firing a shot at the granddaughter of a rothschild was the final blow, he is being silenced just like many were during the pandemic for speaking out against the governments.

"

Which governments has he spoken out against?

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