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"Inspired by the thread about the beautiful moon tonight.... I have had a genuine conversation with a COLLEAGUE who thinks the world is flat and its all a conspiracy. Now I am a cynical as anyone and a critical eye is important....but the world is round isn't it? Where has this new conspiracy emerged from? Or have I been hookwinked?" You just need to look out of your window and you see that the earth is far from flat... it's very bumpy. Cal | |||
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"Inspired by the thread about the beautiful moon tonight.... I have had a genuine conversation with a COLLEAGUE who thinks the world is flat and its all a conspiracy. Now I am a cynical as anyone and a critical eye is important....but the world is round isn't it? Where has this new conspiracy emerged from? Or have I been hookwinked? You just need to look out of your window and you see that the earth is far from flat... it's very bumpy. Cal"  | |||
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"Inspired by the thread about the beautiful moon tonight.... I have had a genuine conversation with a COLLEAGUE who thinks the world is flat and its all a conspiracy. Now I am a cynical as anyone and a critical eye is important....but the world is round isn't it? Where has this new conspiracy emerged from? Or have I been hookwinked?" My mate also believes it... There are a few things that they say that makes me think something is going on... Like nasa having confirmed that no real photograph of earth exists, and that all official ones are actually composites, and that they did photoshop the old ones... That’s my favourite... because it doesn’t back up the fact that the earth is flat, it just exposes that there is definitely something going on... I believe Nasa have never been to the moon... As we’ve never been back And that issue could be to do with the fact that the moon is either in accessible, by current means... or it is not what they thought it was back when yhe allegedly faked the moon landings... Could it be impossible for a human to leave the earths atmosphere? I’ve seen scientists say that in interviews before... too much radiation But why were the moon landings faked? It was the COLD WAR... and if you can get a rocket to the moon... you can get one to Russia, filled with a few nuclear warheads... That’s why I believe there’s a big lie about space... Wouldn’t go as far as to say the world is flat... but it definitely makes you think... What other lies are out there? Would a genuine picture of planet earth be too dangerous for the population to see? Is it egg shaped? Is it bigger, with a few more continents? Is it flat? Or would the picture have something on it that would lead the public to change their beliefs? Would it diss-prove religion? The biggest system of control on the planet? No idea! But it’s interesting if you look at the flat earth arguement, without saying the earth is flat... Look at the arguement they make and say... does that prove the earth is flat? Or does that just prove that there is possibly an anomaly? Could there be something missing? Is someone hiding something? Oooooh... I love it!!! | |||
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"Inspired by the thread about the beautiful moon tonight.... I have had a genuine conversation with a COLLEAGUE who thinks the world is flat and its all a conspiracy. Now I am a cynical as anyone and a critical eye is important....but the world is round isn't it? Where has this new conspiracy emerged from? Or have I been hookwinked?" Does your colleague travel the UK, spray painting road signs and bridges like other members of Flat Earth perhaps they should clean up their graffiti | |||
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"Sigh- basic physics seems beyond lots of people these days. I was chatting to a girl on a dating website right up until she said the moon landings were fake. Next lol. Idiocracy the film is coming true. Dunning Kruger effect " Why would basic physics prove or disprove the moon landings? Didn’t really understand your argument... It’s reasonable to be skeptical of the moon landings after a few decades of nobody ever going there with High Definition devices and our advances in technology... isn’t it? I think they are fake... I know neither of us know for sure either way... I don’t believe the earth is flat... but a lot of their arguements point to anomalies in the moon landings... I think intelligence comes from questioning what you are told, rather than just believing it because you saw it on tv or read it in a book I am yet to hear a clear arguement for why we haven’t gone back to the moon... There was an article in the press a few months ago where scientists proved that a moon rock given to Holland by Nasa was fake It was in the national press... That actually is classed as secondary evidence suggesting that the moon landings were fake... As does the fact that no one has been up there for quite a while... with proper cameras and all the cool gear that’d make it all look proper real and believable 
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"If the Earth was flat.... cats would push everything off the edge." Too right they would
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"Sigh- basic physics seems beyond lots of people these days. I was chatting to a girl on a dating website right up until she said the moon landings were fake. Next lol. Idiocracy the film is coming true. Dunning Kruger effect Why would basic physics prove or disprove the moon landings? Didn’t really understand your argument... It’s reasonable to be skeptical of the moon landings after a few decades of nobody ever going there with High Definition devices and our advances in technology... isn’t it? I think they are fake... I know neither of us know for sure either way... I don’t believe the earth is flat... but a lot of their arguements point to anomalies in the moon landings... I think intelligence comes from questioning what you are told, rather than just believing it because you saw it on tv or read it in a book I am yet to hear a clear arguement for why we haven’t gone back to the moon... There was an article in the press a few months ago where scientists proved that a moon rock given to Holland by Nasa was fake It was in the national press... That actually is classed as secondary evidence suggesting that the moon landings were fake... As does the fact that no one has been up there for quite a while... with proper cameras and all the cool gear that’d make it all look proper real and believable
Just saying"There might be a really good reason for not going back to the moon.. like, oh I don't know..... The fact that there's fuck all there?  | |||
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"If the Earth was flat.... cats would push everything off the edge." Why do they do that lol? ? | |||
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"Sigh- basic physics seems beyond lots of people these days. I was chatting to a girl on a dating website right up until she said the moon landings were fake. Next lol. Idiocracy the film is coming true. Dunning Kruger effect Why would basic physics prove or disprove the moon landings? Didn’t really understand your argument... It’s reasonable to be skeptical of the moon landings after a few decades of nobody ever going there with High Definition devices and our advances in technology... isn’t it? I think they are fake... I know neither of us know for sure either way... I don’t believe the earth is flat... but a lot of their arguements point to anomalies in the moon landings... I think intelligence comes from questioning what you are told, rather than just believing it because you saw it on tv or read it in a book I am yet to hear a clear arguement for why we haven’t gone back to the moon... There was an article in the press a few months ago where scientists proved that a moon rock given to Holland by Nasa was fake It was in the national press... That actually is classed as secondary evidence suggesting that the moon landings were fake... As does the fact that no one has been up there for quite a while... with proper cameras and all the cool gear that’d make it all look proper real and believable
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There might be a really good reason for not going back to the moon.. like, oh I don't know..... The fact that there's fuck all there? "It’s not a good enough reason... unfortunately... It’s supposed to be the perfect place to house a space station, for observation, for research... We were supposed to have built a space station there in the year 2000 There’s lots to be gained from going back to the moon... No scientists has ever said, “There’s fuck all there” They’ve all said that it would be a perfect place to return to, for research and to build a base for research and development of soace technology... So why haven’t we done it? It’s most likely because we can’t and we’ve never been... Loads of advertisers would front the money to go to the moon again... Imagine the views on TV/Internet? It’d actually earn money... If anyone has a logical answer as to why we haven’t been back... I’ll listen to it... But saying, ‘There’s fuck all there’ really isn’t a good enough arguement | |||
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"Apparently NASA's answer for why we haven't been back to the Moon is that they have "lost the technology". So.....we had the technology in the 60s, but now we don't. Hmmmmmmmmm." Brilliant... it’s strange isn’t it? I remember them saying that there was more technology in a casio calculator than they had on the moon flights... What the fuck kind of technology do they need to go back? It makes zero sense | |||
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"Inspired by the thread about the beautiful moon tonight.... I have had a genuine conversation with a COLLEAGUE who thinks the world is flat and its all a conspiracy. Now I am a cynical as anyone and a critical eye is important....but the world is round isn't it?It is a triangle with pointy bits Where has this new conspiracy emerged from? Or have I been hookwinked?" | |||
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"They left apparatus on the moon that they fire laser beams at everyday to measure the earth moon distance. We have gone back, with lunar satellites with high definition cameras and photographed the original landing sites, foot prints and all. But then again they would fake that too wouldn't they. "I read about that, and once saw Brian Cox explain that... but I don’t think an actual person went back to the moon, which is the whole point... Yes, they would fake a photograph... part of the point of this is that the photos taken on the moon that appear to show the earth were actually all proven to be fake by modern computer programs such as photoshop... All nasa photos of the earth taken from space have also been proven to be composite images of the earth, and not actually genuine photos taken from space, as they were said to be at the time... So yes, the can fake photos, they have done it, and they have been proven as fakes by modern computer programs... although I don’t agree the earth is flat... Isn’t it great that we can question things for ourselves, and not just blindly follow each other...? We haven’t got any tangible evidence that anyone has been back to the moon since the 60’s... even though it would be easy to fund in our age of media coverage, and highly important to do for research purposes... The flat earth movement has done really well to highlight this issue, and the fact that all known photos of planet earth taken from outer space are fakes Nasa admitted this They said that it was impossible to take a photo of earth from space, but wouldn’t say why Interesting isn’t it? Why would you fake a photo? | |||
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"If the Earth was flat.... cats would push everything off the edge. Why do they do that lol? ? "Because they are twats sometimes.... and they can.... especially my two lol | |||
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"Sigh- basic physics seems beyond lots of people these days. I was chatting to a girl on a dating website right up until she said the moon landings were fake. Next lol. Idiocracy the film is coming true. Dunning Kruger effect Why would basic physics prove or disprove the moon landings? Didn’t really understand your argument... It’s reasonable to be skeptical of the moon landings after a few decades of nobody ever going there with High Definition devices and our advances in technology... isn’t it? I think they are fake... I know neither of us know for sure either way... I don’t believe the earth is flat... but a lot of their arguements point to anomalies in the moon landings... I think intelligence comes from questioning what you are told, rather than just believing it because you saw it on tv or read it in a book I am yet to hear a clear arguement for why we haven’t gone back to the moon... There was an article in the press a few months ago where scientists proved that a moon rock given to Holland by Nasa was fake It was in the national press... That actually is classed as secondary evidence suggesting that the moon landings were fake... As does the fact that no one has been up there for quite a while... with proper cameras and all the cool gear that’d make it all look proper real and believable
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There might be a really good reason for not going back to the moon.. like, oh I don't know..... The fact that there's fuck all there?
It’s not a good enough reason... unfortunately...
It’s supposed to be the perfect place to house a space station, for observation, for research...
We were supposed to have built a space station there in the year 2000
There’s lots to be gained from going back to the moon...
No scientists has ever said, “There’s fuck all there”
They’ve all said that it would be a perfect place to return to, for research and to build a base for research and development of soace technology...
So why haven’t we done it?
It’s most likely because we can’t and we’ve never been...
Loads of advertisers would front the money to go to the moon again...
Imagine the views on TV/Internet?
It’d actually earn money...
If anyone has a logical answer as to why we haven’t been back... I’ll listen to it...
But saying, ‘There’s fuck all there’ really isn’t a good enough arguement "Okay, I was being a bit flippant. No I've never heard a scientist say that. I've also never heard a respected scientist say that it didn't happen, or even better, that we didnt/don't have the technology to land on the moon. I'm no scientist, but I imagine one concern over building up there, might have to do with the lack of atmosphere to protect it against meteors/meteorites. | |||
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"Inspired by the thread about the beautiful moon tonight.... I have had a genuine conversation with a COLLEAGUE who thinks the world is flat and its all a conspiracy. Now I am a cynical as anyone and a critical eye is important....but the world is round isn't it? Where has this new conspiracy emerged from? Or have I been hookwinked?" I’d say this new conspiracy emerged from the bottom of a bottle of Jack Daniels | |||
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"Well ive just walked up a hill so it can't be flat" You're in on it! You probably work for NASA... | |||
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"Inspired by the thread about the beautiful moon tonight.... I have had a genuine conversation with a COLLEAGUE who thinks the world is flat and its all a conspiracy. Now I am a cynical as anyone and a critical eye is important....but the world is round isn't it? Where has this new conspiracy emerged from? Or have I been hookwinked? My mate also believes it... There are a few things that they say that makes me think something is going on... Like nasa having confirmed that no real photograph of earth exists, and that all official ones are actually composites, and that they did photoshop the old ones... That’s my favourite... because it doesn’t back up the fact that the earth is flat, it just exposes that there is definitely something going on... I believe Nasa have never been to the moon... As we’ve never been back And that issue could be to do with the fact that the moon is either in accessible, by current means... or it is not what they thought it was back when yhe allegedly faked the moon landings... Could it be impossible for a human to leave the earths atmosphere? I’ve seen scientists say that in interviews before... too much radiation But why were the moon landings faked? It was the COLD WAR... and if you can get a rocket to the moon... you can get one to Russia, filled with a few nuclear warheads... That’s why I believe there’s a big lie about space... Wouldn’t go as far as to say the world is flat... but it definitely makes you think... What other lies are out there? Would a genuine picture of planet earth be too dangerous for the population to see? Is it egg shaped? Is it bigger, with a few more continents? Is it flat? Or would the picture have something on it that would lead the public to change their beliefs? Would it diss-prove religion? The biggest system of control on the planet? No idea! But it’s interesting if you look at the flat earth arguement, without saying the earth is flat... Look at the arguement they make and say... does that prove the earth is flat? Or does that just prove that there is possibly an anomaly? Could there be something missing? Is someone hiding something? Oooooh... I love it!!! "That reminds me ... I need to watch another episode of the X Files!! | |||
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"Well ive just walked up a hill so it can't be flat You're in on it! You probably work for NASA... "I do but only 30k a year so I'm moving to stevenage council for better money | |||
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"All photos of earth from space have been "proven" to be takes? Where is this proof you speak of? "NASA said"? When? To who? Are you just getting all this from some conspiracy web site!?" Google it... Many internet threads and interviews with nasa explaining why they were faked Lots of nasa engineers explaining that they were all part of a propaganda campaign against SOVIET RUSSIA... At the time, we didn’t have the technology to pull them apart. But all the evidence is there if you decide to look... It’s one of the easiest things to prove, as you can donit yourself... The fake photos, of which there are many, are still available to download from the nasa site, and you can follow a YouTube tutorial that will teach you how to alter the contrast and other settings in order to see where the images were cropped and spliced together... Nasa scientists all have different answers... no one has any official reason for it... but the most common ones are... It was part of a propaganda campaign, and we cannot actually take photographs of the earth, without giving a reason why... It’s all there... I watched a flat earth documentary that didn’t convince me that the earth was flat... I still didn’t agree with the physics... But... I couldn’t argue with the nasa bit... and have seen this info before on many moon landing videos... I am not saying I belythe earth is flat... Because I don’t... but... If you actually open your eyes, your mind, and your heart... and forget what you think you know... You will probably enjoy their arguements... because some, like the nasa stuff... id really really good... Yes, it doesn’t prove anything... It just proves that there’s something going... even if it has nothing to do with the flat earth theory | |||
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"All photos of earth from space have been "proven" to be takes? Where is this proof you speak of? "NASA said"? When? To who? Are you just getting all this from some conspiracy web site!?" No conspiracy website mate... Just from an open mind Go and do some research, like I did... My mate told me the earth was flat... I didn’t argue with him... I kept cool and told him I’d look into it... I have since said this to him... I have no evidence that the earth is flat Nor do you... But there is a lot of evidence out there that points to the issue of nasa having fakes many photographs... which made me question the moon landings It’s well worth looking into with a scientific open mind, rather than an ignorant closed one... | |||
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) If you travel to the southern hemisphere you can watch the constellations in the sky and the Moon turn upside down the further South you go. I have seen it myself, how does that work on a flat earth? | |||
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"Inspired by the thread about the beautiful moon tonight.... I have had a genuine conversation with a COLLEAGUE who thinks the world is flat and its all a conspiracy. Now I am a cynical as anyone and a critical eye is important....but the world is round isn't it? Where has this new conspiracy emerged from? Or have I been hookwinked? My mate also believes it... There are a few things that they say that makes me think something is going on... Like nasa having confirmed that no real photograph of earth exists, and that all official ones are actually composites, and that they did photoshop the old ones... That’s my favourite... because it doesn’t back up the fact that the earth is flat, it just exposes that there is definitely something going on... I believe Nasa have never been to the moon... As we’ve never been back And that issue could be to do with the fact that the moon is either in accessible, by current means... or it is not what they thought it was back when yhe allegedly faked the moon landings... Could it be impossible for a human to leave the earths atmosphere? I’ve seen scientists say that in interviews before... too much radiation But why were the moon landings faked? It was the COLD WAR... and if you can get a rocket to the moon... you can get one to Russia, filled with a few nuclear warheads... That’s why I believe there’s a big lie about space... Wouldn’t go as far as to say the world is flat... but it definitely makes you think... What other lies are out there? Would a genuine picture of planet earth be too dangerous for the population to see? Is it egg shaped? Is it bigger, with a few more continents? Is it flat? Or would the picture have something on it that would lead the public to change their beliefs? Would it diss-prove religion? The biggest system of control on the planet? No idea! But it’s interesting if you look at the flat earth arguement, without saying the earth is flat... Look at the arguement they make and say... does that prove the earth is flat? Or does that just prove that there is possibly an anomaly? Could there be something missing? Is someone hiding something? Oooooh... I love it!!! ""I believe Nasa have never been to the moon... As we’ve never been back" Men have landed on the moon 6 times, and with a decent telescope you can still see evidence on the surface. Pictures of the Earth from space are being taken all the time from the ISS (International Space Station), Tim Peaks (the last Brit to be up there) has dozens that he happily shows. | |||
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"https://youtu.be/GoW8Tf7hTGA Say no more....." Love this video - you are living on my kind of planet . As for the conspiracy theories: Yes, The world is flat and is carried around the universe on the back of a giant turtle. Elvis works in McDonalds. There's a London bus parked on the moon. You can't take photos of the earth because everyone knows cameras wont work in space (because NASA owns them all). The sun, The Star AND the Daily Mail never lie. The nurse brings me my medication at 9pm | |||
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"You believe whatever you're programmed to believe. Until you're free from matrix, you'll never know. Now, do you take the red pill or the blue pill? "I took both pills but one of them was fake. | |||
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"Mr Superhands - you are in danger of appearing as a complete tool. Don’t believe the shit that some of the fuckwits that have been provided a worldwide social presence via the internet have been spouting. Maybe worry more about improving your intelligence than your gains in the gym? Believe me when I say women (the kind of women you’d actually want to be with) will find your intellect much more attractive than your over-developed but ultimately pointless traps. When NASA refer to their photographs as ‘composites’ it means they are formed of many smaller images put together to form one big picture. Like the all the pixels on your TV forming a composite image. They are not ‘faked’ . The world is flat? For fucks sake there are sailors around the world (!) who can’t even read or write but understand why a ship can sail over the horizon and can no longer be seen with a telescope. I mean what do *you* think holds the air in on top of a flat earth, do you have a theory? Do wind and clouds fucking stop at the edge? What causes weather, the jet streams; in fact how come many thousands of pilots, every fucking day, actually see the curvature of the earth and fly great circle routes all over the globe - you’d think maybe one of them might have taken a fucking picture of the edge by now? That would be worth a lot more as a tabloid picture than Daisy Lowes tits right? Why haven’t any flat earthers chartered an aircraft and flown to the edge and taken the picture? Why? because they’re ignorant twats who lack the basic intelligence to apply even fundamental logic and reason and are afraid of people who are more intelligent than they are. Don’t be one of them. "Because you can't take pictures from the air either! Duh! | |||
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"Inspired by the thread about the beautiful moon tonight.... I have had a genuine conversation with a COLLEAGUE who thinks the world is flat and its all a conspiracy. Now I am a cynical as anyone and a critical eye is important....but the world is round isn't it? It would be a shocker if the world was flat especially as all the trillions and trillions of trillions of stars that surround it are spheres. Sounds like more dumbass facebook shit. Watch some hollyoaks and just labotomise yourself. Where has this new conspiracy emerged from? Or have I been hookwinked?" | |||
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"Inspired by the thread about the beautiful moon tonight.... I have had a genuine conversation with a COLLEAGUE who thinks the world is flat and its all a conspiracy. Now I am a cynical as anyone and a critical eye is important....but the world is round isn't it? Have you not seen the pictures from the space station? Or the boy who parachuted fecking miles above our planet? I will give you a hint, it's round! Jeeze your school must have been for slow people. Where has this new conspiracy emerged from? Or have I been hookwinked? My mate also believes it... There are a few things that they say that makes me think something is going on... Like nasa having confirmed that no real photograph of earth exists, and that all official ones are actually composites, and that they did photoshop the old ones... That’s my favourite... because it doesn’t back up the fact that the earth is flat, it just exposes that there is definitely something going on... I believe Nasa have never been to the moon... As we’ve never been back And that issue could be to do with the fact that the moon is either in accessible, by current means... or it is not what they thought it was back when yhe allegedly faked the moon landings... Could it be impossible for a human to leave the earths atmosphere? I’ve seen scientists say that in interviews before... too much radiation But why were the moon landings faked? It was the COLD WAR... and if you can get a rocket to the moon... you can get one to Russia, filled with a few nuclear warheads... That’s why I believe there’s a big lie about space... Wouldn’t go as far as to say the world is flat... but it definitely makes you think... What other lies are out there? Would a genuine picture of planet earth be too dangerous for the population to see? Is it egg shaped? Is it bigger, with a few more continents? Is it flat? Or would the picture have something on it that would lead the public to change their beliefs? Would it diss-prove religion? The biggest system of control on the planet? No idea! But it’s interesting if you look at the flat earth arguement, without saying the earth is flat... Look at the arguement they make and say... does that prove the earth is flat? Or does that just prove that there is possibly an anomaly? Could there be something missing? Is someone hiding something? Oooooh... I love it!!! " | |||
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"Why is there such a need to spray paint "Flat Earth" up and down the length of the country, its a disgrace" I haven't seen this graffiti of which you speak. Thankfully the toblerone snapped earth society don't feel the need to damage property. | |||
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"We know the distance to the moon to a mm, because of the laser beams we shine and reflect off the plates that we put on its surface. We know it's gravitational pull on us, as a spherical object and the earths gravitational pull, as similarly shaped, upon it. If someone would like to correct calculations of gravity etc, then I'll listen. Otherwise they are just attention seeking without effort For a few dollars you can send a balloon and camera into our atmosphere. Do it and take pictures of our planet. It's infantile " | |||
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"We know the distance to the moon to a mm, because of the laser beams we shine and reflect off the plates that we put on its surface. We know it's gravitational pull on us, as a spherical object and the earths gravitational pull, as similarly shaped, upon it. If someone would like to correct calculations of gravity etc, then I'll listen. Otherwise they are just attention seeking without effort For a few dollars you can send a balloon and camera into our atmosphere. Do it and take pictures of our planet. It's infantile "Well this is a lively debate, some very intelligent responses and maybe a few that aren’t We do all like s conspiracy theory lol!! Science has developed and exacted many things over the last 200 years, perhaps the problem is we don’t like science we as a race prefer speculation and mystery, I’m all up for various conspiracies it makes life so much more interesting, so much so, think I’ll start some other threads on conspiracies!!! Anyway 1 very intriguing fact! The earth as confirmed by NASA revolves at 470 meters per second at the equator. Just take that in for a second (ooops you moved nearly 500 metres) We are told gravity keeps everything stable at 470 metres per second Fuck me that gravitational pull is strong stuff... so if I am travelling on an aeroplane from Cairo to Johannesburg How the fuck do I compensate for that? Lol science is baffling One more thought I put this in a previous thread about this subject, why is it that the UN basically use the same map as flat earthers use? Coincidence!? Who knows Lol | |||
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"No one else got anything to say on this?" A map is a 2D representation of a 3D object- they only display true scale over certain small areas with distortion acceptable outside its useable zone. Hence the Golbal maps are usually mercator projections where the UK is usually a Lamberts Confomal conical. In short- understand what the map is designed to show- not what people Want to subvert it too. | |||
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"We know the distance to the moon to a mm, because of the laser beams we shine and reflect off the plates that we put on its surface. We know it's gravitational pull on us, as a spherical object and the earths gravitational pull, as similarly shaped, upon it. If someone would like to correct calculations of gravity etc, then I'll listen. Otherwise they are just attention seeking without effort For a few dollars you can send a balloon and camera into our atmosphere. Do it and take pictures of our planet. It's infantile
Well this is a lively debate, some very intelligent responses and maybe a few that aren’t
We do all like s conspiracy theory lol!!
Science has developed and exacted many things over the last 200 years, perhaps the problem is we don’t like science we as a race prefer speculation and mystery, I’m all up for various conspiracies it makes life so much more interesting, so much so, think I’ll start some other threads on conspiracies!!!
Anyway 1 very intriguing fact! The earth as confirmed by NASA revolves at 470 meters per second at the equator.
Just take that in for a second (ooops you moved nearly 500 metres)
We are told gravity keeps everything stable at 470 metres per second
Fuck me that gravitational pull is strong stuff... so if I am travelling on an aeroplane from Cairo to Johannesburg
How the fuck do I compensate for that?
Lol science is baffling
One more thought
I put this in a previous thread about this subject, why is it that the UN basically use the same map as flat earthers use?
Coincidence!?
Who knows
Lol
"If you think that's mind blowing, think about how time moves at different speeds depending on how far the clock is from the surface of the earth.  | |||
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"(We are told gravity keeps everything stable at 470 metres per second Fuck me that gravitational pull is strong stuff... so if I am travelling on an aeroplane from Cairo to Johannesburg How the fuck do I compensate for that?) I don't really understand your question here, are you asking how does an aeroplane compensate for gravity?" Actually gravity is a relatively weak force and your plane flies by creating uplift from air moving faster over the top of the wings than the lower. | |||
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Anyone with half a clue knows the earth ain't flat....it is hollow though,n Hitler n Elvis live there with all the lizard people! | |||
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"Agree with you I dont subscribe to this theory, but I find their argument intriguing" Strangely I find the flat earthers rather dull and severely egotistical. But that's just me. | |||
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"Why is it when you are on a plane,especially a long flight,they fly about 35,000ft and stay level for hours on end? If the earth was flat you would be flying away from it from the moment of take off,unless the plane was constantly going down in altitude,which it is not. " Lol surely this is satire? The basic principles of flight explains this. | |||
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"So if the Earth is flat and NASA are lying to us... please explain how all other planets and moons are globes. Also, why would NASA be lying to us about this? ...and how come other space agencies haven’t told us? " Because NASA is really the inter flat planetary federation, and all other space agencies and governments do what NASA say.... | |||
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"(We are told gravity keeps everything stable at 470 metres per second Fuck me that gravitational pull is strong stuff... so if I am travelling on an aeroplane from Cairo to Johannesburg How the fuck do I compensate for that?)" You are mixing up two things here. The earth rotation is 470 metres per second, but it's not caused by gravity. Gravity is a force that causes all things with mass to gravitate towards each other. It is strong stuff - it's what makes the planets orbit the sun! Regarding the earth's rotation, an airplane in the air is also rotating at the same speed. You would need to travel above the earths atmosphere to escape the rotation (approx 330,000 feet). It's a good job it does work like this because otherwise anything you threw in the air would just whizz off!! . I bet the birds are glad too!
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"(We are told gravity keeps everything stable at 470 metres per second Fuck me that gravitational pull is strong stuff... so if I am travelling on an aeroplane from Cairo to Johannesburg How the fuck do I compensate for that?) You are mixing up two things here. The earth rotation is 470 metres per second, but it's not caused by gravity. Gravity is a force that causes all things with mass to gravitate towards each other. It is strong stuff - it's what makes the planets orbit the sun! Regarding the earth's rotation, an airplane in the air is also rotating at the same speed. You would need to travel above the earths atmosphere to escape the rotation (approx 330,000 feet). It's a good job it does work like this because otherwise anything you threw in the air would just whizz off!! . I bet the birds are glad too!
"Hmm so if I jump and escape gravity's horizontal hold but remain in the verticle hold, estimate 0.5 second in the air do I need to be half a mile east or west of the concrete wall. | |||
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"You are mixing up two things here. The earth rotation is 470 metres per second, but it's not caused by gravity. Gravity is a force that causes all things with mass to gravitate towards each other. It is strong stuff - it's what makes the planets orbit the sun! Regarding the earth's rotation, an airplane in the air is also rotating at the same speed. You would need to travel above the earths atmosphere to escape the rotation (approx 330,000 feet). It's a good job it does work like this because otherwise anything you threw in the air would just whizz off!! . I bet the birds are glad too!
"Gravity is not a force causing all things with mass to gravitate towards each other. For one gravity is a theory. Even the baller's hero Neil DeGrasse Tyson admits no one truly knows what gravity is. By your reckoning the universe would not be expanding outwards but rather contracting back towards a central point as all bodies of mass gravitate towards each other. One of the most widely acknowledged theories is that a large body of mass in effect bends space and therefore other bodies will move towards it. Think a bowling ball landing in a tightly pulled sheet and creating that depression in the middle. If you then put a pool ball into that sheet it will naturally fall towards the centre of the bowling ball's mass. Regarding a plane in flight it would technically have to travel faster than the rotation of earth at sea level as you've in effect added an additional 36,000ft to the radius. | |||
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"Regarding a plane in flight it would technically have to travel faster than the rotation of earth at sea level as you've in effect added an additional 36,000ft to the radius. Concorde used to travel faster than the rotation of the earth. When taking off in the evening and flying toward New York they used to experience a sunrise in the west. "I mean simply to stay stationary during the rotation. A sphere or oblate spheroid rotates at different speeds dependent where you are on said ball/pear. At the equator it moves quicker than it does as you move towards the poles. A plane at 36,000ft adds 72,000ft to the diameter of the ball/pear so to remain geostationary would have to rotate faster in flight than it would while sat on a runway on land just to maintain inertia. | |||
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"Regarding a plane in flight it would technically have to travel faster than the rotation of earth at sea level as you've in effect added an additional 36,000ft to the radius. Concorde used to travel faster than the rotation of the earth. When taking off in the evening and flying toward New York they used to experience a sunrise in the west.
I mean simply to stay stationary during the rotation. A sphere or oblate spheroid rotates at different speeds dependent where you are on said ball/pear. At the equator it moves quicker than it does as you move towards the poles. A plane at 36,000ft adds 72,000ft to the diameter of the ball/pear so to remain geostationary would have to rotate faster in flight than it would while sat on a runway on land just to maintain inertia. "That's only true if you remove the horizontal hold on gravity, in which case the fastest route to anywhere is west to east. But also raises issues with that concrete wall for Anyone on a pogo stick... We can't fully appreciate the measure of gravity, it effectively comes from mass, so everything that exists makes it, those gravitational pulls are week enough for us to stand up, yet strong enough to hold the moon. We also don't really know if some gravities repulse (push) other gravities. Or if it is always a constant or like other energies has a pulse. | |||
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"You are mixing up two things here. The earth rotation is 470 metres per second, but it's not caused by gravity. Gravity is a force that causes all things with mass to gravitate towards each other. It is strong stuff - it's what makes the planets orbit the sun! Regarding the earth's rotation, an airplane in the air is also rotating at the same speed. You would need to travel above the earths atmosphere to escape the rotation (approx 330,000 feet). It's a good job it does work like this because otherwise anything you threw in the air would just whizz off!! . I bet the birds are glad too!
Gravity is not a force causing all things with mass to gravitate towards each other. For one gravity is a theory. Even the baller's hero Neil DeGrasse Tyson admits no one truly knows what gravity is.
By your reckoning the universe would not be expanding outwards but rather contracting back towards a central point as all bodies of mass gravitate towards each other.
One of the most widely acknowledged theories is that a large body of mass in effect bends space and therefore other bodies will move towards it. Think a bowling ball landing in a tightly pulled sheet and creating that depression in the middle. If you then put a pool ball into that sheet it will naturally fall towards the centre of the bowling ball's mass. "Yes, like a lot of things in science, there are theories that attempt to explain what is happening in the universe - there to be proved or disproved as our knowledge grows. Gravity does exist, we just don't know for sure what causes it. A this point in time, the universe expansion since the big bang is stronger than gravity, but who is to say that will always be the case? There is a theory called the big crunch that argues that eventually the affect of gravity will outweigh the slowing expansion of the universe and cause the contraction of everything back to a central point. The latest analysis though is that the expansion is getting faster rather than slower, so it doesn't seem to be something that will be proven in our lifetime. Going back to the flat earthers - I heard they had lots of members around the globe! | |||
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"You are mixing up two things here. The earth rotation is 470 metres per second, but it's not caused by gravity. Gravity is a force that causes all things with mass to gravitate towards each other. It is strong stuff - it's what makes the planets orbit the sun! Regarding the earth's rotation, an airplane in the air is also rotating at the same speed. You would need to travel above the earths atmosphere to escape the rotation (approx 330,000 feet). It's a good job it does work like this because otherwise anything you threw in the air would just whizz off!! . I bet the birds are glad too!
Gravity is not a force causing all things with mass to gravitate towards each other. For one gravity is a theory. Even the baller's hero Neil DeGrasse Tyson admits no one truly knows what gravity is.
By your reckoning the universe would not be expanding outwards but rather contracting back towards a central point as all bodies of mass gravitate towards each other.
One of the most widely acknowledged theories is that a large body of mass in effect bends space and therefore other bodies will move towards it. Think a bowling ball landing in a tightly pulled sheet and creating that depression in the middle. If you then put a pool ball into that sheet it will naturally fall towards the centre of the bowling ball's mass.
Yes, like a lot of things in science, there are theories that attempt to explain what is happening in the universe - there to be proved or disproved as our knowledge grows. Gravity does exist, we just don't know for sure what causes it.
A this point in time, the universe expansion since the big bang is stronger than gravity, but who is to say that will always be the case? There is a theory called the big crunch that argues that eventually the affect of gravity will outweigh the slowing expansion of the universe and cause the contraction of everything back to a central point. The latest analysis though is that the expansion is getting faster rather than slower, so it doesn't seem to be something that will be proven in our lifetime.
Going back to the flat earthers - I heard they had lots of members around the globe! "It certainly seems to be gaining more and more momentum | |||
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"Inspired by the thread about the beautiful moon tonight.... I have had a genuine conversation with a COLLEAGUE who thinks the world is flat and its all a conspiracy. Now I am a cynical as anyone and a critical eye is important....but the world is round isn't it? Where has this new conspiracy emerged from? Or have I been hookwinked?" Just old medieval Hellenistic gnosticism buddy, story goes earth's flat, sourrended by ice on the edges, the tree of Agatha at the center of earth to other realms etc, I belive this is said to be where the rainbow bridge from Norse mythology is located to other realms. Oh and where in a dome good luck | |||
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"It’s been around for a while and some people swear by it! There’s a school of thought that says the theory emerged deliberately to make us challenge what we’re told and not believe everything we’re taught! So they come up with reasons why the Earth “could” be flat to make us think about and challenge conventional thinking! But some people really do take it very seriously and think the Earth is flat. I’ll leave it up to you to make up you’re own mind about whether it is or isn’t! "Donald Trump once said, I own a private jet, if the earth was round I'd know about it, which I found hilarious is Donald a flat earther to | |||
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