FabSwingers.com forum: Andrew Tate

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”)

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

Because of my political and social leanings, the only things I see about Andrew Tate paint him in a very negative light.

Searching through everything he's ever said knowing that bias is on the articles I'd read I don't think I could get a grasp of anything useful or correct he may have said.

What things do you agree with? So I can perhaps get an idea from that.

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By *irty_DeedsMan
over a year ago

Teesside

Some of his stuff about hard work and not expecting things to be handed to you are interesting.

Shame he spouts all the other dribble on top

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I think he is a grifter out to make as much money from impressionable primarily young men.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Why do you assume older people would believe in what he says.

Why do you refer to women as MILFS and to men as men ?

Where is your role model for that?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Given that you are not sexist or rude of course.......

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I think he is a grifter out to make as much money from impressionable primarily young men. "

A bit like sports and fashion designers, brewerys etc ...

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By *rtyIanMan
over a year ago

Gateway to the Beacons

here we go again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Free Top G

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”) "

What has he said that you believe in? Have to be honest, I've heard bits of him but very little - I don't do twitter

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

I’m not a woman but doesn’t stop me from thinking the bloke is a cock womble… the fact that Tommy Robinson holds him such high regard tells you everything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The 'older women/milfs' thing stands out in your OP. Why the need to sexualise in that context?

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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago

Sandwich

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”) "

I feel that your last sentence is very much in the same vein as when someone says “I am not racist but….” As they go on to say something incredibly racist

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"The 'older women/milfs' thing stands out in your OP. Why the need to sexualise in that context?"

I asked that also.

Unconsciously done I know and then proclaims not to be a sexist... or mysoginist..

It's men and them things that are for sex....... what are they called again ?

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By *eliusMan
over a year ago

Henlow

He is a person of no significance, who believes he is far more intelligent than he actually is and who spouts 99% garbage sprinkled with 1% ‘hmm I’ll think about that.’

A piece of filth really, though he was quite a useful kick-boxer at one time.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”)

I feel that your last sentence is very much in the same vein as when someone says “I am not racist but….” As they go on to say something incredibly racist

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By *esmond and Molly JonesCouple
over a year ago

Watford

If Tate has been sex-trafficking as alleged, (just take one look at the house he was living in which looked like some sort of industrial-scale red-light sex club,)

then you're asking people to respect the ethos of a pimp. If there's any other explanation for his boastful lifestyle, than I'd like to know where he gets all that money from.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”) "

I'm old enough to be your dad - and I think he's a grade A cunt.

And yes, I've 'done my research' and not in the way most people claim by just reading social media posts and watching YouTube videos. There's more than enough evidence out there including interviews with the asswipe himself to show that he's got nothing positive going for him at all.

The number of people who think he's a good role model astound me, but it's always a very useful filter when they make their views public.

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

Throughout history, extremists have used the "20% method" to peddle their most dispicable messages. They'll hide their most damaging views (20%) in 80% of thier more palatable output hoping that people like the OP are stupid enough to buy their bullshit.

He's a digusting misogynist, rapist and sex trafficker and prison is the best place for him.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”) "

What are the things he says that you believe in and why do you think he's a good role model?

Why do you think his views would be popular with MILFs?

Personally I think he's scum and detest everything he appears to stand for and profiteer from

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

There's better role models to idolise.

Find someone who isn't a rampant misogynist and hasn't been arrested for human trafficking. Preferably one where you don't have to tell people that you're not a misogynist for liking them.

There are plenty of men in this world to look up too, good fathers, good husbands, good lovers and hard workers.

Andrew Tate may have a strong work ethic and has seen lots of success in his life, he's not a stupid man, but his views on men and women do more harm than good.

Find a better role model my friend

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"I’m not a woman but doesn’t stop me from thinking the bloke is a cock womble… the fact that Tommy Robinson holds him such high regard tells you everything "

It would be interesting to see how closely linked they actually are, I understand there's more of a connection than just being from Luton.

They certainly have very similar business plans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Throughout history, extremists have used the "20% method" to peddle their most dispicable messages. They'll hide their most damaging views (20%) in 80% of thier more palatable output hoping that people like the OP are stupid enough to buy their bullshit.

He's a digusting misogynist, rapist and sex trafficker and prison is the best place for him."

But he has said some positive things.

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

"But he has said some positive things."

If you google "percentages", it might help you understand what I wrote.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

There's little point discussing anything when the OP is sitting back not saying why he's a good role model or what things he thinks Tate says is good.

Seems a bit of an inflammatory post really - gets everyone talking about his own generalisations re. milfs without having to back it up

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

I doubt Andrew Tate respects the people who follow him. A bit like the shit that Logan Paul is in currently. Both see their ‘fans’ or ‘followers’ as marks to make money from. Logan Paul by a crypto scam, Tate by a fake University.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only thing I know of him is he thinks women with high body count are low value. If he's with a woman, he owns her and has the right to say what she does. And he was kicked out of big brother when footage surfaced of how he treated his gf of the time.

So I see a scumbag really

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By *ooking4othersMan
over a year ago

Here ...

Innocent until proven guilty in the eyes if the law.

In my eyes ... guilty as charged and deserves everything he will hopefully get.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

He's a digusting misogynist, rapist and sex trafficker and prison is the best place for him.

But he has said some positive things."

And Jimmy Saville raised loads for charity..................still a cunt.

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By *hloe sussexTV/TS
over a year ago

Larne

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”) "

Go Greta she smashed him lol

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By *hinypants77Man
over a year ago

Leeds

I think he’s like a pantomime villain. A lot of what he’s says is to be controversial and gain attention which has clearly worked.

I don’t agree with some of his blatant misogyny but he also speak facts about the world and is clearly very intelligent. There’s a reason he’s gained so much money and fame. Problem is when his followers aren’t so smart and take away only the sexist parts and nothing else.

Is he being set up to fall one way or the other? Will he be taken out? Probably. Free Top G.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's a cunt.

Upside to these threads, they make a great filter for people that agree with his disgusting way of thinking.

Pxx

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet

He is a shock jock and a braggard and not the man he says men should aspire to be. However he is absolutely spot on in his estimation that men are marginalised, misrepresented and grossly underappreciated. There are lots of disingenuous nonsense mostly propagated by new feminism that is eroding gender dynamics and making both men and women deeply unhappy . He is an important conduit and representative for men's rights and issues however there are better more measured advocates.

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”)

Go Greta she smashed him lol"
Yes by mentioning the size of his genitalia. Imagine it the other way around. Sort of validates his ethos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But he has said some positive things.

If you google "percentages", it might help you understand what I wrote."

If you Google "sarcasm".........

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet

He's a digusting misogynist, rapist and sex trafficker and prison is the best place for him.

But he has said some positive things.

And Jimmy Saville raised loads for charity..................still a cunt.

A"
Guilty till proved innocent then?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I can’t reply to everything because there’s so many replies already but, the things I like that he says are, men should be strong and work to become better in life (not only physically but also mentally), being born poor or in bad circumstances doesn’t mean anything especially if you’re in a first world country, brotherhood, standing up for what you believe and a few other stuff but I can’t remember everything of the top of my head.

I probably shouldn’t have used the word milf after seeing the replies but people make mistakes I just thought it would make sense but it didn’t. And no I’m not a sexist or anything like that, which I already mentioned but some people are struggling to understand.

And I do believe in innocent until proven guilty as it’s always been like that before so…?

But it’s nice reading all the different comments.

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

"If you Google "sarcasm"........."

If you google emojis...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do you assume older people would believe in what he says.

Why do you refer to women as MILFS and to men as men ?

Where is your role model for that?"

MILF is a complimentary term. All older women appreciate being called a MILF because it means they still have some worth in men's eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you Google "sarcasm".........

If you google emojis...

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By *eff4000Man
over a year ago

Camberley

He's a fucking prick.

He's an idiot's idea of a smart person.

Every time he speaks I think - how can anyone fall this garbage?

He speaks with confidence, that is apparently enough to convince misogynistic men that he knows what he's talking about.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

"MILF is a complimentary term. All older women appreciate being called a MILF because it means they still have some worth in men's eyes.

Don't you make me gigglesnort my coffee!

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By *heHornyWandererMan
over a year ago

glasgow

He's a digusting misogynist, rapist and sex trafficker and prison is the best place for him.

But he has said some positive things.

And Jimmy Saville raised loads for charity..................still a cunt.

AGuilty till proved innocent then?"

Protect the abusers until their death then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I do not care what he does. If mankind was all in agreement on everything someone said or does. We would all be doomed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"MILF is a complimentary term. All older women appreciate being called a MILF because it means they still have some worth in men's eyes.

Don't you make me gigglesnort my coffee!"

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

He's a digusting misogynist, rapist and sex trafficker and prison is the best place for him.

But he has said some positive things."

Yes maybe he reflect on some of his own motivational quotes right now

“You are exactly where you deserve to be. Change who you are and you will change how you live.”

“Arrogance breeds complacency and complacency breeds failure.”

But most of his quotes are utter none-sense recycled from other life coaches.

I like this one , I think it speaks directly to me about him

“Don’t listen to the advice of people who are living lives you don’t want to live.”

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

I have a close friend works on counter terrorism. Andrew Tate, the Incel movement and the far right are linked to more hate crime than Islamic extremists and are considered a greater threat.

I don't think the average Joe understands how much damage this is doing, and whilst people like the OP are "useful idiots", spreading the message, they're not as dangerous as the generation of teenage boys who are being misled by this moron. If you knew the scale of the problem, you wouldn't post about him.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

I'm older and I couldn't disagree with him more. I hope they lock him up and throw away the key.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Why do you assume older people would believe in what he says.

Why do you refer to women as MILFS and to men as men ?

Where is your role model for that?

MILF is a complimentary term. All older women appreciate being called a MILF because it means they still have some worth in men's eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's a digusting misogynist, rapist and sex trafficker and prison is the best place for him.

But he has said some positive things.

Yes maybe he reflect on some of his own motivational quotes right now

“You are exactly where you deserve to be. Change who you are and you will change how you live.”

“Arrogance breeds complacency and complacency breeds failure.”

But most of his quotes are utter none-sense recycled from other life coaches.

I like this one , I think it speaks directly to me about him

“Don’t listen to the advice of people who are living lives you don’t want to live.”"

I hope they give him crayons so he can decorate his cell walls with these.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have a close friend works on counter terrorism. Andrew Tate, the Incel movement and the far right are linked to more hate crime than Islamic extremists and are considered a greater threat.

It is actually very worrying.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So I’m basically being abused by (some) of the exact same people who claim that he’s bad and abusive for others.

Lol very hypothetical to be a hypocrite while claiming that others are hypocrites. A very hypothetical situation we’ve got here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a mum I sometimes indulge in social media purely to keep up to date with current trends and subjects.

It became very apparent with my older kids that trends have an affect.

Some of the current topics are horrific to say the least.

Andrew tate is horrible, and if young men are following him it's very worrying.

I recently saw a woman ask At a few questions and his responses were awful.

I don't like him at all. Yes social media will only show certain things but hasn't he just been arrested for offences we wouldn't want our kids committing???

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hypocritical*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do you assume older people would believe in what he says.

Why do you refer to women as MILFS and to men as men ?

Where is your role model for that?

MILF is a complimentary term. All older women appreciate being called a MILF because it means they still have some worth in men's eyes.

Ahh, im getting your humour now.

For f***s sake, i nearly bit.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

"So I’m basically being abused by (some) of the exact same people who claim that he’s bad and abusive for others.

Lol very hypothetical to be a hypocrite while claiming that others are hypocrites. A very hypothetical situation we’ve got here.

Can you point out where someone abused you on here? I see a lot of viewpoints on Andrew Tate which was the question posed. I don't see anyone attacking you unless you count perfectly valid points made about your wording choices.

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

"So I’m basically being abused by (some) of the exact same people who claim that he’s bad and abusive for others.

You've come on here promoting a rapist and sex trafficker, a man who most decent people see for what he is - a manipulative, misogynistic monster.

Now, most people have given you the benefit of the doubt and suggested that you might me a bit dim, immature or impressionable... to be honest, I'd take that if I were you fella, because it's far more palatable than the alternative view that I'm sure many people are forming of you.

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet

Interesting that most of his most vehement detractors are men. New feminism has done its worst.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Interesting that most of his most vehement detractors are men. New feminism has done its worst. "

Interesting that you are threatened by equal rights for women.

Put ‘em back in the kitchen, that’s what I say.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

There are plenty of role models out there in the world who encourage people to work hard, be strong, be confident etc without also being raging misogynists.

It's almost as if the reason some men like Tate isn't to do with those positive messages at all...

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this). "

I have nothing to add other than what was shared in the previous half dozen threads about him. Saying that, I may have forgotten too add these enlightening quotes from Tate:

“How did I become rich? Webcam. … I’ve been running a webcam studio for nearly a decade, I’ve had over 75 girls work for me, and my business model is different than 99% of webcam studio owners. Over 50% of my employees were actually my girlfriend at the time and, of all my girlfriends, NONE were in the adult entertainment industry before they met me."

And:

“My job was to get women to fall in love with me. Literally, that was my job. My job was to meet a girl, go on a few dates, sleep with her, test if she’s quality, get her to fall in love with me to where she’d do anything I say, and then get her on webcam so we could become rich together."

Super role model.

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

"Interesting that most of his most vehement detractors are men. New feminism has done its worst. "

Maybe because we've done a lot of the heavy lifting to try and improve womens' views of us. A monster like Tate undoes a lot of progress, especially when he's manipulating and influencing a very young generation who have the potential to make womens' lives misery for many years to come.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"I’m not a woman but doesn’t stop me from thinking the bloke is a cock womble… the fact that Tommy Robinson holds him such high regard tells you everything "

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"Interesting that most of his most vehement detractors are men. New feminism has done its worst. "

Could you expand on why you are blaming feminism for men calling out other men's behaviour?

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Interesting that most of his most vehement detractors are men. New feminism has done its worst. "

Interesting that you assume anyone who feels negative about him is a victim of 'new feminism'.....rather than just because he's a cunt.

Almost as if we're incapable of rational thought, using evidence to formulate a theory and viewpoint, and of basing our opinions on what we've seen, read and witnessed.

But yeah. Much easier to say we've all been duped by 'new feminism'.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"So I’m basically being abused by (some) of the exact same people who claim that he’s bad and abusive for others.

Lol very hypothetical to be a hypocrite while claiming that others are hypocrites. A very hypothetical situation we’ve got here.

I'm only seeing people disagree with yiur comments about Tate? How is thst abuse?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m not trusting no man with a hairline worst than Vegeta’s

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"There’s a reason he’s gained so much money and fame. Problem is when his followers aren’t so smart and take away only the sexist parts and nothing else.

He's very clear about how he makes his money. See my quotes above.

Sex trafficking is very profitable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is Andrew Tate from Luton too??

Him and Tommy R.

Peeps, try not to judge Luton by those two individuals/cretins.

Many, many famous, positive, free-thinking roles models come out of my town:

Paul Young

er....did i mention Paul Young??

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By *amesBeelzebubMan
over a year ago

norwich

He's basically a dick pic.

He wants a reaction and thinks everyone should be grateful he graces us with his presence.

Some may like him but most find him arrogant and rude and much more insignificant than he thinks

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By *heGateKeeperMan
over a year ago

Stratford

It’s worth noting the issue that came up in the media this week with teachers having to step in and deal with a huge rise extreme misogyny from young teenage boys as a result of his rise in popularity

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Interesting that most of his most vehement detractors are men. New feminism has done its worst. "

What precisely, is New Feminism ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"It’s worth noting the issue that came up in the media this week with teachers having to step in and deal with a huge rise extreme misogyny from young teenage boys as a result of his rise in popularity "

Society needs to look closer to home for views like this.

They have existed long before the internet and way before Andrew Tate

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"I have a close friend works on counter terrorism. Andrew Tate, the Incel movement and the far right are linked to more hate crime than Islamic extremists and are considered a greater threat.

I think that’s true but society is also creating a generation of teenage boys looking for him because they are being raised so badly. When society and parents worship image, brands, money and pay more attention to their instagram followers than their children - children will look to the likes of him for meaning and purpose

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By *hogun300Man
over a year ago

Dundee

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”) "

You think a misogynistic dinosaur who hates women is a good role model for men?

He wants women to know their place and is a complete bellend. Thread's like these are great filters.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"I can’t reply to everything because there’s so many replies already but, the things I like that he says are, men should be strong and work to become better in life (not only physically but also mentally), being born poor or in bad circumstances doesn’t mean anything especially if you’re in a first world country, brotherhood, standing up for what you believe and a few other stuff but I can’t remember everything of the top of my head."

So, nothing new ir insightful then? Nothing that thousands of others aren't saying?

Btw, if you're not sexist, why do you like Tate? He very openly boasts about being precisely that!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Serious Question ......

Could anyone please define Sex Trafficking for me ?

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By *hogun300Man
over a year ago

Dundee

"Interesting that most of his most vehement detractors are men. New feminism has done its worst. "

Just wow,

Not for equal rights for all then?

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By *heGateKeeperMan
over a year ago

Stratford

Society needs to look closer to home for views like this.

They have existed long before the internet and way before Andrew Tate"

So whilst I agree with the second part, the internet, the level of accessibility and the nature of viral content means that the ability to spread hateful views/information/disinformation at an accelerated rate is much easier.

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

Complete and utter cockwomble and anyone that utter racist tommy holds in high regard is more than enough evidence of him being prime cockwomble and as for the "New Feminism " jibes just take a breathe and think if you'd like your own mother viewwed and treated like he's advocates males should treat females ???....and i'm guessing a fair few on this thread will joining a fair fews block list as can think of a worse meet than meeting ....mind be fun to watch Mrs4 in action xxx

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

Society needs to look closer to home for views like this.

They have existed long before the internet and way before Andrew Tate"

I think the point is that there is a rise in these views lately. My daughter came home recently and said that a boy in her scho said that "females" (first clue!) were "objects."

It's not just that these views how existed before. It's that they are enjoying something of a resurgence

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"Serious Question ......

Could anyone please define Sex Trafficking for me ?

Taking someone from their home either forcibly or with false promises, holding them against their will and employing them in the sex industry

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"Serious Question ......

Could anyone please define Sex Trafficking for me ? "

Coercing or deceiving another person into sexual exploitation for profit.

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

"Serious Question ......

Could anyone please define Sex Trafficking for me ?

He coerced women into travelling to his homes where he kept them under house arrest and forced them to make pornographic content for his websites.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Serious Question ......

Could anyone please define Sex Trafficking for me ?

It’s the whole supply chain from loan sharks , visa and asylum application services, transporters, enforcers, accom providers, benefits fraud, porn production, boss ladies and men, SIM cards , tinder, WhatsApp and OF account management. Basically anything assisting the exploitation of people in debt to provide sex services in uk , Germany mostly to pay off those debts back home , rarely they buy freedom though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ahh yes another thread of name calling each other in disagreement.

My popcorn supply is running low.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Serious Question ......

Could anyone please define Sex Trafficking for me ?

He coerced women into travelling to his homes where he kept them under house arrest and forced them to make pornographic content for his websites."

Did he ? Has any evidence come up that he actually forced people, kept them prisoner, made them perform sex acts against their will ?

I read of one accusation but there seems to be so many willing women to do this for money , I can't help but wonder why he'd have to force one particular individual.

The fraud accusation could make it stand.... e.g he promised me love .... that doesn't mean he forced her to perform.

See....... if getting someone to perform and then not loving them in the way they expect then there sure is a lot of 'guilty' people around.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Ahh yes another thread of name calling each other in disagreement.

My popcorn supply is running low.

You need a bumper bag..... or those poppable packs.

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”) "

Why do you think he is a good role model?

What has he done that makes you think so?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I'm not a supporter but i'm not a fan of wide of the mark accusations cos someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone said it ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe you should post "my role model is a human trafficker" on your bio OP, just so people know what you're about before meeting.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"Serious Question ......

Could anyone please define Sex Trafficking for me ?

He coerced women into travelling to his homes where he kept them under house arrest and forced them to make pornographic content for his websites.

Did he ? Has any evidence come up that he actually forced people, kept them prisoner, made them perform sex acts against their will ?"

'Force' doesn't have to be an element. See my response to your question above.

He openly boasts that he deceived women into the role, even giving them an audition without them knowing it.

Not all sex trafficking looks like Taken.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"Serious Question ......

Could anyone please define Sex Trafficking for me ?

He coerced women into travelling to his homes where he kept them under house arrest and forced them to make pornographic content for his websites.

Did he ? Has any evidence come up that he actually forced people, kept them prisoner, made them perform sex acts against their will ?

I read of one accusation but there seems to be so many willing women to do this for money , I can't help but wonder why he'd have to force one particular individual.

The fraud accusation could make it stand.... e.g he promised me love .... that doesn't mean he forced her to perform.

See....... if getting someone to perform and then not loving them in the way they expect then there sure is a lot of 'guilty' people around.

I believe that there are whatsapp messages showing people were held against their will and not allowed to leave.

And yes plenty of women engage in webcamming, but they do it yo earn money for themselves not fir some random man.

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

"I'm not a supporter but i'm not a fan of wide of the mark accusations cos someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone said it ....

You sure sound like a supporter to me. I've never gone to great lengths to defend a sex offender that I didn't support

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"I'm not a supporter but i'm not a fan of wide of the mark accusations cos someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone said it ....

I mean he's in custody being investigated for multiple offences, itsva little more substantive than you suggest there isn't it?

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

"He's a cunt.

Upside to these threads, they make a great filter for people that agree with his disgusting way of thinking.

Pxx"

Have to agree with this

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Serious Question ......

Could anyone please define Sex Trafficking for me ?

He coerced women into travelling to his homes where he kept them under house arrest and forced them to make pornographic content for his websites.

Did he ? Has any evidence come up that he actually forced people, kept them prisoner, made them perform sex acts against their will ?

'Force' doesn't have to be an element. See my response to your question above.

He openly boasts that he deceived women into the role, even giving them an audition without them knowing it.

Not all sex trafficking looks like Taken."

I did read your response.

It doesn't change my question to the person I responded to.

What does 'taken' mean ?

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By *he Gentleman CallerMan
over a year ago

Southampton

Never even heard about him until last week..tomorrow newspaper stories about him will be used to wrap chips. Don't give him the oxygen of publicity and he'll be yesterday's news very soon.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'm not a supporter but i'm not a fan of wide of the mark accusations cos someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone said it ....

I mean he's in custody being investigated for multiple offences, itsva little more substantive than you suggest there isn't it?"

No. He's been arrested after allegations.

Until we have the outcome .... yada yada.

BTW - I didn't have a clue who he was until approx 3 months ago. I don't seek him out either but I do hate witch hunts.

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

"What does 'taken' mean ?"

I think you've wasted enough of our time.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman
over a year ago

near Putney Heath

He's a digusting misogynist, rapist and sex trafficker and prison is the best place for him."

Eww I didn't know about the R word and the Traffic word. Shudder.

I never watched any of his videos but it appears that he rubs the majority of women on social media the wrong way.....of all ages. From Porn Stars to Good Christian submissive women to Feminists.

So I never bought into him.

Luckily as a Maverick, I always try to think for myself and only take seriously the advice of peer-reviewed and strong research experts. Unfortunately, Mr. Tate does not qualify in my books. He's no different from the drivel Boris wrote in the Spectator in 1995 about single mothers meanwhile he created 2 single mothers with 5 children. He's no different from the local estate stud as far as I'm concerned...very close to Mick Philpott in terms of ego and sociopathic traits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not a supporter but i'm not a fan of wide of the mark accusations cos someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone said it ....

You sure sound like a supporter to me. I've never gone to great lengths to defend a sex offender that I didn't support

If you have a chance, read the previous threads on this, and whilst the poster can well defend themselves, I think their point may refer to modern day lynch mobs who don't actually know much, other than others euphoric vendettas.

Can't say I know much about him, what I've heard him say is a bit misguided and ridiculous, but I certainly don't think he's society's main pariah?

Interesting article on BBC today about an historic murder, where the populist crowds, existing of largely everyday folk, bayed for blood, resulting in the execution of a female just to appease their distaste of the individual.

Tates in custody, let the impartial justice system who holds accountability deal with it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He seems like a toxic little man who doesn't deserve the oxygen of publicity.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'm not a supporter but i'm not a fan of wide of the mark accusations cos someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone said it ....

You sure sound like a supporter to me. I've never gone to great lengths to defend a sex offender that I didn't support

I haven't defended anyone.

You are know making accusations about me that are totally untrue.

I am speaking about everyone's willingness to hang draw and quarter someone and give them labels and raise HATRED against them without any proof of what they have done.

Don't accuse me of things I haven't done.

What is written in here stands legally

I've said i'm not a supporter - take my word for it. Or show me where I have said that I am a supporter of his and agree with anything he says

That or shut up.

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

"Interesting article on BBC today about an historic murder, where the populist crowds, existing of largely everyday folk, bayed for blood, resulting in the execution of a female just to appease their distaste of the individual.

Wow, you've managed to take whataboutery to a whole new level!

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By *elaninMaverickWoman
over a year ago

near Putney Heath

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”)

I'm old enough to be your dad - and I think he's a grade A cunt.

The number of people who think he's a good role model astound me, but it's always a very useful filter when they make their views public.

Cunts are wonderful things....Not Mr. Tate. I'm sure you don't want to stick your willy in him. Eww..

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"I'm not a supporter but i'm not a fan of wide of the mark accusations cos someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone said it ....

I mean he's in custody being investigated for multiple offences, itsva little more substantive than you suggest there isn't it?

No. He's been arrested after allegations.

Until we have the outcome .... yada yada.

BTW - I didn't have a clue who he was until approx 3 months ago. I don't seek him out either but I do hate witch hunts."

I'm not sure how this is a witch hunt?

Even if he is acquitted of all charges, does it make the opinions he's expressed on line less abhorrent? In the same way that if his mate Tommy Robinson is acquitted of a frininsl charges, it doesn't make him less of a racist does it?

He's not an innocent victim here. I mean he literally admitted to moving to Romania because he was less likely to be arrested openly alluding to his own criminality. He's talked of assaulting women, treating them as property and boasted of insane levels of wealth that don't seem to match any business accounts lodged here or in Romania. Maybe that was all bravado but he literally invited the Romanian police and authorities to monitor him with these comments.

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

"I am speaking about everyone's willingness to hang draw and quarter someone and give them labels and raise HATRED against them without any proof of what they have done.

I'm basing my opinion on what I know: the fact that he's the common factor for a large number of online groups that are on terrorism watch lists. That he even admitted he was living in Bucharest to avoid arrest for r*pe. He's very open about his activities, and there's absolutely no defence for his behaviour. He's a fucking wrong-un and anyone defending or promoting him is either thick, or complicit.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Serious Question ......

Could anyone please define Sex Trafficking for me ?

He coerced women into travelling to his homes where he kept them under house arrest and forced them to make pornographic content for his websites.

Did he ? Has any evidence come up that he actually forced people, kept them prisoner, made them perform sex acts against their will ?

I read of one accusation but there seems to be so many willing women to do this for money , I can't help but wonder why he'd have to force one particular individual.

The fraud accusation could make it stand.... e.g he promised me love .... that doesn't mean he forced her to perform.

See....... if getting someone to perform and then not loving them in the way they expect then there sure is a lot of 'guilty' people around.

I believe that there are whatsapp messages showing people were held against their will and not allowed to leave.

And yes plenty of women engage in webcamming, but they do it yo earn money for themselves not fir some random man.

I've not read anything anywhere about what's app messages.... where was that made public ?

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By *elaninMaverickWoman
over a year ago

near Putney Heath

"But he has said some positive things.

If you google "percentages", it might help you understand what I wrote."

Like bleach.

Useful but drink the whole bottle and you are dead.

What's that word again...ah yes toxic!!

Limit exposure to minutiae. Tiny precise dosages. Other wise Lad it'll rot your brain.

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

"I've not read anything anywhere about what's app messages.... where was that made public ?"

Google it.

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By *elaninMaverickWoman
over a year ago

near Putney Heath

"I doubt Andrew Tate respects the people who follow him. A bit like the shit that Logan Paul is in currently. Both see their ‘fans’ or ‘followers’ as marks to make money from. Logan Paul by a crypto scam, Tate by a fake University.

Fake University?!! It just gets worse and worse the more I hear about this dude.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'm not a supporter but i'm not a fan of wide of the mark accusations cos someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone said it ....

I mean he's in custody being investigated for multiple offences, itsva little more substantive than you suggest there isn't it?

No. He's been arrested after allegations.

Until we have the outcome .... yada yada.

BTW - I didn't have a clue who he was until approx 3 months ago. I don't seek him out either but I do hate witch hunts.

I'm not sure how this is a witch hunt?

I said im not a fan of witch hunts. I don't hold that he's a sweet innocent character.

Where can I read what he's said about moving to Romania ? Not a second hand account but a legit source...... cos I can't find it John.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

Fake University?!! It just gets worse and worse the more I hear about this dude.

For just £50 a month you can learn online how to be a hit with women and a success in life.

Not sure how much the residential courses cost

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By *elaninMaverickWoman
over a year ago

near Putney Heath

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”)

Go Greta she smashed him lol"

Oh I saw that. Now that was funny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow, you've managed to take whataboutery to a whole new level!"

You've managed to erase the word objective from the dictionary. You don't HAVE to have an opinion on things you don't really know anything about.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"I'm not a supporter but i'm not a fan of wide of the mark accusations cos someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone said it ....

I mean he's in custody being investigated for multiple offences, itsva little more substantive than you suggest there isn't it?

No. He's been arrested after allegations.

Until we have the outcome .... yada yada.

BTW - I didn't have a clue who he was until approx 3 months ago. I don't seek him out either but I do hate witch hunts.

I'm not sure how this is a witch hunt?

I said im not a fan of witch hunts. I don't hold that he's a sweet innocent character.

Where can I read what he's said about moving to Romania ? Not a second hand account but a legit source...... cos I can't find it John."

"Speaking in a now-deleted video from Tate’s Youtube channel, he said that it is easier to get off on r#pe charges in the Eastern European country.

Explaining that it’s “40 per cent of the reason I moved to Romania,” Tate said: “I’m not a f****** r#pist, but I like the idea of just being able to do what I want. I like being free.

“If you’re a man living in England or Germany or America or any of the western world right now you’ve decided to live in a country where any woman… at any point in the future can destroy your life.”

Taken from The Independent

https://www.indy100.com/celebrities/andrew-tate-controversial-moments-arrest-2659041862

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"Serious Question ......

Could anyone please define Sex Trafficking for me ?

He coerced women into travelling to his homes where he kept them under house arrest and forced them to make pornographic content for his websites.

Did he ? Has any evidence come up that he actually forced people, kept them prisoner, made them perform sex acts against their will ?

I read of one accusation but there seems to be so many willing women to do this for money , I can't help but wonder why he'd have to force one particular individual.

The fraud accusation could make it stand.... e.g he promised me love .... that doesn't mean he forced her to perform.

See....... if getting someone to perform and then not loving them in the way they expect then there sure is a lot of 'guilty' people around.

I believe that there are whatsapp messages showing people were held against their will and not allowed to leave.

And yes plenty of women engage in webcamming, but they do it yo earn money for themselves not fir some random man.

I've not read anything anywhere about what's app messages.... where was that made public ?"

They were made public earlier this week, unfortunately the 2 links I've tried to share both contain banned words.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I want to know what the women on here think about Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan if you know who they are (I assume you do if you’re reading this).

I believe in a lot of the things he says and I actually think he’s a good role model for a lot of guys but the general public doesn’t think this.

I think most older women/milfs and men on here would actually agree with him and most of the stuff he says? Unlike some people around my generations.

(I was just wondering I’m NOT “sexist, misogynistic or rude”)

Go Greta she smashed him lol

Oh I saw that. Now that was funny."

It was hilarious lol