FabSwingers.com forum: Racial Discrimination

By *omsabuxxx OP Man
9 weeks ago

Cardiff

I thought that the swinging community was very inclusive and welcoming. Last night at Chams Newport a couple racially abused me and asked me to go back to my country. Is this common? Have anyone else faced such discrimination?

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By (user no longer on site)
9 weeks ago

Humans are dicks. Always havem always will be.

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By *rowniemanMan
9 weeks ago

Wales

"I thought that the swinging community was very inclusive and welcoming. Last night at Chams Newport a couple racially abused me and asked me to go back to my country. Is this common? Have anyone else faced such discrimination?"

Hey mate

Sorry to hear your experience.

I can so relate to it.

Have had some really nasty experiences on here so now make it very clear I am coloured.

Had similar incidents so have given up.on clubs.

Most are really nice and polite.

And if we don't click let you down gently but the vile ones make it hard and those are the occasions you remember.

Externally I say they are the ignorant ones but it does get under your skin

Take it easy

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By *wzerMan
9 weeks ago

Milford Haven

So sorry this happened mate

Hope you felt that you could speak to the staff there as this shouldn't be tolerated and they should've at least been warned if not kicked out.

Hope you have many more good experiences mate

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By (user no longer on site)
9 weeks ago

Sadly no lifestyles are immune. Stay away from the politics thread on these forums, full of far right nuts. Pretty disgusting and stupid thing to say to you, sorry you had that experience.

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By *3xymamaWoman
9 weeks ago

...., Wales

I'm sorry this happened to you. As someone else has said you should have reported it to the staff as it shouldn't be tolerated

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By *owiththeflow2025200Man
9 weeks ago

canton

Unfortunately there will be racial discrimination everywhere, always report in clubs and it'll less likely happen to others as they'll probably get banned

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By *he first GentlemanMan
9 weeks ago

Fab

Oh hell yes man, always, that's typical in Fab but most of the time they won't spit out their dirty thought otherwise you can report them and they will be banned. However stay positive because still there is many decent lovely kind people here too and you will meet them soon, I'm sure.

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By *omsabuxxx OP Man
9 weeks ago

Cardiff

I was thinking it is difficult to report it as a single guy. What if they say something against me even though I haven't done anything? Couples will get priority, and I'll be blamed. Even though I just let one of the staff know about the incident without reporting it as a complaint or pointing to a person.

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By (user no longer on site)
9 weeks ago

My skin color is no different from most people here, but I'm not British. I'm Polish. I've lived in the UK for 21 years, so my entire adult life. I've been told many times that I should go back to my country, and I've also received a lot of unkind words, especially from those I refused to meet.

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By *lessing2016Woman
9 weeks ago

Cardiff

I'm really very sorry that happened. Any community should be inclusive but unfortunately it's made up of ppl and within there you sometimes get some piece of shit, rotten eggs.

Please don't let their actions/words deter you from the community

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By *rMrsTwistedCouple
9 weeks ago

Neath

Again as others have said sorry this happened and has regular visit to Chams in Newport we can tell you its not something that happens all the time

You must absolutely report it to Dave Kev or Charlie they will deal with it

Remember they do have cctv so it can always be checked

We always tell people weather its male or female , couples gay bi ect

If anything happens report it

Sadly there are a few regulars that go who do cross the line in their actions and people are getting fed up with it but still this isn't called for

Dont let this put you off because like all clubs they need new people along with regulars to keep the clubs going

Hopefully the next visit will be more pleasant

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By *omsabuxxx OP Man
9 weeks ago

Cardiff

Thank you all for the reassuring words. I have been pretty new to this scene. Its been only few months.

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By (user no longer on site)
9 weeks ago

Luckily most people are nice and friendly.

But unfortunately there are a lot of people who behave in the way you described, and even more who will defend that behaviour as “a joke” or “you must have done something to upset them” or “it’s just preference”.

It might only be 1 in 20 people, but it’s enough to notice.

I’m sorry you had to experience that.

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By *ack and jill 76Couple
9 weeks ago

Neath

No need to be rude yes many won't meet or play with coloured just not their thing but I always say no thanks not my type

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By *dmundwilsonMan
9 weeks ago

Llandudno

Tell them ‘this is the hot end of genetic diversity’. Hybrid vigour!

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By *heoriginalCJMan
9 weeks ago

mystic valley

I'm gutted I wasn't there last night, as I would have done something to defend you as I know you are one of the ones who actually try to talk to people.

dont let this knock you back, and dont think you are not welcome in the community

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By *eachbum500Man
9 weeks ago

Southwest Wales

Racism is all over this site unfortunately. Interracial parties, blacks only, no blacks, the whole bbc thing. Blatant racism. I’ve reported it and nothing happens. No reply from site.

Oh, “it’s a sexual preference not racism”. As if.

But the active personal abuse you describe is far worse. Has to be stamped out. I feel for you. Sickening.

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By *issP69Woman
8 weeks ago

Neath

Sorry to hear you experienced that OP. Racists are the lowest of the low

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By *aturist-CoupleCouple
8 weeks ago

Taffs Well

so sorry to here that you had some abuse. Its not acceptable.

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By *bwBratWoman
8 weeks ago

Carmarthenshire

I am wholeheartedly sorry you've had to experience this. As others have said, definitely report next time.

Whoever did this , they should be ashamed of themselves. I hope the scum are reading this , and if so , they should own up, take some accountability and apologise. They're big enough to be racist, let's see if they're big and proud to admit to the forum who they are.

Cowards.

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By *otyouraverageguyMan
8 weeks ago

midlands & n wales

That's disgusting

I hope you never encounter this again, but if you do perhaps reply with

'...as long as you head back to dumbfuckistan'

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By *ayfabMan
6 weeks ago

Cardiff

Well. Fab isnt saint. Amount of people blocked me is insane. Just cause of being a brown individual.

It is the fact. NVM

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By *ociallySecureMan
6 weeks ago

About Town

"I'm gutted I wasn't there last night, as I would have done something to defend you as I know you are one of the ones who actually try to talk to people.

dont let this knock you back, and dont think you are not welcome in the community

OP - This is just about the best endorsement anyone could have. Everybody knows, trusts and respects CJ.

So sorry that you had to go through this. Don't let it put you off, and if it happens again, report whoever does it. The club is an inclusive space.

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By *ociallySecureMan
6 weeks ago

About Town

"Humans are dicks. Always havem always will be."

Sadly true. We all have dickish tendencies. It's what sort of dick we are and whether we try not to be that matters.

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By *esi70Man
6 weeks ago

Blackburn

"Racism is all over this site unfortunately. Interracial parties, blacks only, no blacks, the whole bbc thing. Blatant racism. I’ve reported it and nothing happens. No reply from site.

Oh, “it’s a sexual preference not racism”. As if.

But the active personal abuse you describe is far worse. Has to be stamped out. I feel for you. Sickening."

This is my experience of being on here for many years and NEVER being able to meet anyone.

Nearly every Caucasian seems to be on a morally high ground that they look down on the rest of us. No offense to those who are fairer with non Caucasians but there's few of you on here.

I'm genuine, open minded, clean, discreet, honest yet have always been looked on suspiciously as if I'm doing something wrong here and the rest are all right.

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago

"Racism is all over this site unfortunately. Interracial parties, blacks only, no blacks, the whole bbc thing. Blatant racism. I’ve reported it and nothing happens. No reply from site.

Oh, “it’s a sexual preference not racism”. As if.

But the active personal abuse you describe is far worse. Has to be stamped out. I feel for you. Sickening.

This is my experience of being on here for many years and NEVER being able to meet anyone.

Nearly every Caucasian seems to be on a morally high ground that they look down on the rest of us. No offense to those who are fairer with non Caucasians but there's few of you on here.

I'm genuine, open minded, clean, discreet, honest yet have always been looked on suspiciously as if I'm doing something wrong here and the rest are all right."

You sound up yourself with your reply. Many never meet, just the problems of this site in general due to vast inbalance and timewasters. And not sure many Armenian, Georgian or others from the Caucasus region to pick on to form your opinion.

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By *erry 58Man
6 weeks ago

doncaster

A nice , “sorry you’re not what we’re looking for””would have been better than any racial abuse

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By *eachbum500Man
6 weeks ago

Southwest Wales

I agree that the odds are stacked against single straight men on here, but can you legitimately question the racism others say they face? I see women being racist here all the time. Somehow it’s legit to want a bbc. Imagine I said white women only need apply?

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By *esi70Man
6 weeks ago

Blackburn

People who don't experience racism or prejudice can never fully understand the experience of those who do.

I understand and agree there are many non ethnic people who are not racist at all but it's a different matter experiencing something.

I'm in my mid 50s and have had it all my life. It's always below the surface waiting to pop it's ugly head out with triggers which make it seem acceptable. My experience is that it's more in the open now than was in the 80s 90s or 2000s and becoming acceptable with many.

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By *carlett CumslutWoman
6 weeks ago

Cardiff

"People who don't experience racism or prejudice can never fully understand the experience of those who do.

I understand and agree there are many non ethnic people who are not racist at all but it's a different matter experiencing something.

Can you explain what you mean by non ethnic people please?

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By *ociallySecureMan
5 weeks ago

About Town

"Can you explain what you mean by non ethnic people please? "

Well, quite. Everybody is ethnic, in that we all have an ethnicity. Maybe they meant ethnic minorities?

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By *lower SergeMan
5 weeks ago

cardiff

This is so sad.

I’m sorry you experienced this mate

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By *itherofustwoMan
5 weeks ago

swansea

"Thank you all for the reassuring words. I have been pretty new to this scene. Its been only few months."

Hope you reported this to the organisers...

We really need to call this out when it appears... you may well NOT be what some are looking for and that is their call, And it could be for any number of reasons, racism not being one of them.

Hope you continue your social attendances

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By *omsabuxxx OP Man
5 weeks ago

Cardiff

Thank you all for the supporting messages. After that incident I have not been to any other socials or clubs yet. I might get active back to scene soon.

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By *esi70Man
3 weeks ago

Blackburn

"Can you explain what you mean by non ethnic people please? "

Caucasian or White.

Ethnic would mean BAME.

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By *anderingWelshGuyMan
2 weeks ago

Swansea

This isn't ok

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By *un guy300Man
2 weeks ago

Swansea

Keep no notice if them

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By *ew life CoolCouple
2 weeks ago

cardiff

With respect is this a one way experience or is there another side to this we are not hearing

Just saying before people jump.in to comment

Is this a reaction to something that was said

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By *izards SleeveTV/TS
2 weeks ago

Newport

"With respect is this a one way experience or is there another side to this we are not hearing

Just saying before people jump.in to comment

Is this a reaction to something that was said "

Would you jump to racial abuse if someone said something you didn't like?

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By *ubforfandcoupleMan
2 weeks ago

pontardawe

Sorry about that. I had a couple and a lady , that, when I said I am from East European, they blocked me. Things happen...

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By *roticknightMan
2 weeks ago

cardiff

Rascists, lowest scum, and always demonstrates the rampant stupidity if an individual, take care mate

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