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"I imagine a percentage of people have tested positive. The more people you come in to contact with the higher the probability you'll pick something up. Just like any transmissible infection. " I don't think STI's on FAB follow the same pattern as a common cold. Yes, there is always a risk but that risk is based on how you choose. There are clusters of the people who are promiscuous and bare and also groups like gay & bi men that are way more likely to have STIs lead, that's why they prioritise those groups for free testing on SH24 | |||
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"I'm not aware of priority testing on sh24 Groups that are at high risk of passing on an STI are any that don't test regularly and those that don't realise you can get nearly everything by oral sex that you can by fucking and that things can be passed on by fingers toys etc Surely the approach should be get tested often and treated when required and inform partners of infection Ignorance and stigma act as catalysts for transmission " you can technically get everything orally almost... but it is much less likely. I have never ever used a condom for oral.... but always do for full sex. Never caught anything doing it this way.. used to get tested every 4 to 6 weeks depending... ( I was doing regular group sessions) Now we stick to every few months.. But yes there should be less stigma to talking and getting tested Cali | |||
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"I’ve not met on Fab for a good while and would only play safe, but I do wonder how many people on Fab have tested positive for an STI following a Fab meet?" In my poly pod which is me plus maximum 10 men ( straight or bi), we've had 3 positives in 3 years. The tests were done orally, vaginally, penile and anal. They were positive for HSV-1, HPV and Gonorrhea. We use condoms for penis in vagina but not penis in mouth or vagina/Vulva in mouth. So my suspicion is that most of these transmissions were oral. Also because one person caught it in the pod, it didn't automatically transfer to other people in the pod or their other partners. We are a high risk group. In some cases higher than adult actors because they actually have to provide proof to work. Most swingers I've met don't ask for proof of tests. In my poly pod, we share test results with each other..positive or negative... for transparency because people have wives and family obligations. | |||
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"Thing is if you put your hands in a woman and then straight into another woman that is the same as putting your cock into a woman and straight into another woman. Big risk ?" So in the group that I've had sex with, the men changed condoms and used antibacterial gel and antibacterial wipes before touching another woman vaginally. I'm on the fetish website and we also use anti-bacterial wipes on sex equipment. You just have to be careful and be transparent. Some sex parties now have rapid testing before entering, but that doesn't cover everything. | |||
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"We are awarde of several people that have. It shouldn't be such a stigma as it means people are taking responsibility. We had someone tell us once that they had an oral infection.... we took time out and got tested 3 times before playing again. We think some think that if you play safe that you dont need to test... " I follow the medical advice at my local clinics which is: use condoms/dental dams over the vagina, use contraception and come and get tested regularly. I'm not as active as before because I'm focusing more on rope but on average I make sure to test every 1-3 months. | |||
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"We are awarde of several people that have. It shouldn't be such a stigma as it means people are taking responsibility. We had someone tell us once that they had an oral infection.... we took time out and got tested 3 times before playing again. We think some think that if you play safe that you dont need to test... I follow the medical advice at my local clinics which is: use condoms/dental dams over the vagina, use contraception and come and get tested regularly. I'm not as active as before because I'm focusing more on rope but on average I make sure to test every 1-3 months." of course they advise it for oral but ive never bothered with oral protection. Even when I was doing multiple gangbangs a week... just used condoms for full sex... I would test montly when I was moat active... and im over 30 years of swinging... always tested negative... Annoyingly most places wont test a woman orally unless you lie about your sexual practice. In fact for my current method of testing.. ive had to say im a trans female to get throat swabs at all. To be fair we are not currently doing anything with anyone else currently so its a none issue for us just now.. | |||
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"Thing is if you put your hands in a woman and then straight into another woman that is the same as putting your cock into a woman and straight into another woman. Big risk ? So in the group that I've had sex with, the men changed condoms and used antibacterial gel and antibacterial wipes before touching another woman vaginally. I'm on the fetish website and we also use anti-bacterial wipes on sex equipment. You just have to be careful and be transparent. Some sex parties now have rapid testing before entering, but that doesn't cover everything." Nobody is getting near my vagina with antibacterial gel on their hands. | |||
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"Would require people to test. I bet many think they are fine and carry on not thinking to get checked. But naturally some will have, no stigma, it's a natural risk here. Free, online, quick result, I would encourage all to do one occasionally " Swingers are known for their active sexual health testing pursuits. Far above rates of the general public | |||
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"We are awarde of several people that have. It shouldn't be such a stigma as it means people are taking responsibility. We had someone tell us once that they had an oral infection.... we took time out and got tested 3 times before playing again. We think some think that if you play safe that you dont need to test... " Yes, or that if you get tested regularly you don’t need to bother with condoms, which is even dafter! I get tested at least every three months unless I am having a long sex drought (not recently, fortunately!), even though I use condoms for everything, including oral, as I tend to get fucked by at least three or four men and take at least as many men in my mouth in an afternoon in a club. I have been vaccinated relevantly and the clinic are giving me prep now because of my promiscuity even though they know that I always use condoms (they also know that I will probably be losing my amateur status!). | |||
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"We are awarde of several people that have. It shouldn't be such a stigma as it means people are taking responsibility. We had someone tell us once that they had an oral infection.... we took time out and got tested 3 times before playing again. We think some think that if you play safe that you dont need to test... Yes, or that if you get tested regularly you don’t need to bother with condoms, which is even dafter! I get tested at least every three months unless I am having a long sex drought (not recently, fortunately!), even though I use condoms for everything, including oral, as I tend to get fucked by at least three or four men and take at least as many men in my mouth in an afternoon in a club. I have been vaccinated relevantly and the clinic are giving me prep now because of my promiscuity even though they know that I always use condoms (they also know that I will probably be losing my amateur status!)." our clinic told us because we use condoms we are not eligible for prep.. even though I was before. | |||
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"I caught Chlamydia from Fab 10 years ago. Simple dose of antibiotics sorted it The fact you caught it means you get tested which is very sensible and managed to clear it up | |||
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"Thing is if you put your hands in a woman and then straight into another woman that is the same as putting your cock into a woman and straight into another woman. Big risk ? So in the group that I've had sex with, the men changed condoms and used antibacterial gel and antibacterial wipes before touching another woman vaginally. I'm on the fetish website and we also use anti-bacterial wipes on sex equipment. You just have to be careful and be transparent. Some sex parties now have rapid testing before entering, but that doesn't cover everything. Nobody is getting near my vagina with antibacterial gel on their hands. That's the method in clubs. It's either that or they finger you with another woman's or man's bodily fluids. Your choice. They use antibacterial gel in the sexual health clinics. In between swabs and touching gloves and surfaces. They only wash inbetween patients. | |||
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"Thing is if you put your hands in a woman and then straight into another woman that is the same as putting your cock into a woman and straight into another woman. Big risk ? So in the group that I've had sex with, the men changed condoms and used antibacterial gel and antibacterial wipes before touching another woman vaginally. I'm on the fetish website and we also use anti-bacterial wipes on sex equipment. You just have to be careful and be transparent. Some sex parties now have rapid testing before entering, but that doesn't cover everything. Nobody is getting near my vagina with antibacterial gel on their hands. I don't go to clubs. Antibacterial gel would play havoc with my ph balance and likely end up in bv. | |||
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"I imagine a percentage of people have tested positive. The more people you come in to contact with the higher the probability you'll pick something up. Just like any transmissible infection. I don't think STI's on FAB follow the same pattern as a common cold. Yes, there is always a risk but that risk is based on how you choose. There are clusters of the people who are promiscuous and bare and also groups like gay & bi men that are way more likely to have STIs lead, that's why they prioritise those groups for free testing on SH24" | |||
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"It’s strange, it seems to vary from one area to another and on how they classify you (sexuality, sex/gender, promiscuity, etc.) in STI risk terms - I think that the clinic must think that I am already a working girl!" This is what I was thinking. Since I live in London which seems to be the promiscuity capital of the nation, they lob everything at me. Lol! This last visit they asked on the form if I have sex with men who have sex with men or trans women or trans men. So in London they must be seeing transmission rates across all genders who exchange bodily fluids. I had a uni friend who nearly died from the kissing meningitis. I don't know what it does to people over 45. One of my partners who got oral HSV-1 at age 55 was incredibly sick with multiple flare ups. My mouth? Nothing. Not even a cold sore. They know im a swinger and that Ibhave sex with bi nen and trans women and I'm looking to go into erotic massage and being a pro domme so they gave me the prep. They gave me a rapid HIV test to start the prep. | |||
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"Thing is if you put your hands in a woman and then straight into another woman that is the same as putting your cock into a woman and straight into another woman. Big risk ? So in the group that I've had sex with, the men changed condoms and used antibacterial gel and antibacterial wipes before touching another woman vaginally. I'm on the fetish website and we also use anti-bacterial wipes on sex equipment. You just have to be careful and be transparent. Some sex parties now have rapid testing before entering, but that doesn't cover everything. Nobody is getting near my vagina with antibacterial gel on their hands. Then I guess it's easier for you to swing near a sink so they can stop mid way duribg group sex and wash their hands. 🤷🏾♀️ whatever works best for you. I use PH balancing gel anyway to stop perimenopausal BV,trush and UTIs. | |||
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"It’s strange, it seems to vary from one area to another and on how they classify you (sexuality, sex/gender, promiscuity, etc.) in STI risk terms - I think that the clinic must think that I am already a working girl! This is what I was thinking. Since I live in London which seems to be the promiscuity capital of the nation, they lob everything at me. Lol! This last visit they asked on the form if I have sex with men who have sex with men or trans women or trans men. So in London they must be seeing transmission rates across all genders who exchange bodily fluids. I had a uni friend who nearly died from the kissing meningitis. I don't know what it does to people over 45. One of my partners who got oral HSV-1 at age 55 was incredibly sick with multiple flare ups. My mouth? Nothing. Not even a cold sore. They know im a swinger and that Ibhave sex with bi nen and trans women and I'm looking to go into erotic massage and being a pro domme so they gave me the prep. They gave me a rapid HIV test to start the prep. " Yes, I was frank about my promiscuity and sexual habits and tastes and they asked me if I had sex for money and I said no but I was thinking about doing it. Every time I have been in (I have had vaccinations as well as tests) they have suggested or mentioned prep even though they know that I use condoms for everything (but you can’t always trust men not to try taking them off when they’re fucking you from behind!). After discussing it and being tested they are offering it and seem keen that I take it so I am going to, initially just ‘event based’. | |||
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"This is why I won’t meet around my area it was rife with people playing while others knew the one women playing who’s also on adult work as a 403 and also accumulated 50+ veris in a month on here, also the confirmation of two people on here attended a club with herpes ( one married with consent to play bet that wasn’t on the cars though haha means I’m just here for the forums now unfortunately as the cross contamination veris got too much " not sure what the working or getting 50+ veries in a week has to do with anything. I used to regularly play with more than that in a week ( back on my old profile). We to be fair partially took our sabbatical over reports from local clubs over infections of certain sti infections... but mostly as we choose to step away a bit. | |||
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"This is why I won’t meet around my area it was rife with people playing while others knew the one women playing who’s also on adult work as a 403 and also accumulated 50+ veris in a month on here, also the confirmation of two people on here attended a club with herpes ( one married with consent to play bet that wasn’t on the cars though haha means I’m just here for the forums now unfortunately as the cross contamination veris got too much " What does “… on adult work as a 403 ..” mean? That she had serviced 403 clients sexually? Over 50 verifications on here in a month is certainly a lot if they were all just swinging/casual sex and not as a working group! Some working girls are actually more careful about their sexual health even if they have a lot of clients, because they are more aware of the risks,that a lot of people on here or having casual sex generally. For them having STIs is also bad for business, especially for having repeat customers, and could stop the earning a living until they are ‘clean’. | |||
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"Saw someone posting earlier on their status telling anyone who had met them to get in touch As they had tested positive ( they don’t say what for) So I am sure it happens and some people will be honest and some won’t " That’s good of them to make it known but I would hope they actually had the fabs of the people they have been intimate with so could message directly. | |||
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"This is why I won’t meet around my area it was rife with people playing while others knew the one women playing who’s also on adult work as a 403 and also accumulated 50+ veris in a month on here, also the confirmation of two people on here attended a club with herpes ( one married with consent to play bet that wasn’t on the cars though haha means I’m just here for the forums now unfortunately as the cross contamination veris got too much " 50+ in a month is crazy but the herpes gang even crazier. Yeah I'd stay put as well. | |||
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"I'm on the fetish website and we also use anti-bacterial wipes on sex equipment." If it's the same site we're thinking of than we are on there, too. And like you, we anti-bac everything both before and after use. The only reason we have a dishwasher is to use for giving toys a good clean every few weeks! We've been in the game for about 7 years, and haven't even picked up so much as crabs during all that time. | |||
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"Be careful because I got banned from talking on here about it. Unfortunately it happened to me, I told him as I knew it had come from him as I got tested and hadn't seen anyone else, he chose to ignore me and received a verification from another woman the following day. I chose to message her and let her know and she left me on read. I gave the clinic all his details and thankfully he listened to them. You do have to be very careful." Good for you! Quite right.😘 | |||
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"This is why I won’t meet around my area it was rife with people playing while others knew the one women playing who’s also on adult work as a 403 and also accumulated 50+ veris in a month on here, also the confirmation of two people on here attended a club with herpes ( one married with consent to play bet that wasn’t on the cars though haha means I’m just here for the forums now unfortunately as the cross contamination veris got too much 50+ in a month is crazy but the herpes gang even crazier. Yeah I'd stay put as well. | |||
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"I’ve not met on Fab for a good while and would only play safe, but I do wonder how many people on Fab have tested positive for an STI following a Fab meet?" This topic makes me feel a lot better about myself being useless at chatting to women on fab. 😂 | |||
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"Be careful because I got banned from talking on here about it. Unfortunately it happened to me, I told him as I knew it had come from him as I got tested and hadn't seen anyone else, he chose to ignore me and received a verification from another woman the following day. I chose to message her and let her know and she left me on read. I gave the clinic all his details and thankfully he listened to them. You do have to be very careful." Unbelievable that people do not take it seriously and go get tested and treatment. | |||
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"Did you know men are not tested for TV unless they request it this is a parasite and not all men will know if they have it or not " Excuse my ignorance but what is ‘TV’, if that is not a ‘typo’ and meant to say something else? | |||
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"Trichomoniasis" I just googled this and you are right they don’t do this as standard as apparently there is a different kind of swab needed, the regular ones from ICash don’t include it. | |||
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"Not on FAB but about 14 years ago me and my ex went sex club in Tenerife the guy fucked wife as he pulled his condom off 😡 and we both got gonareha fuckin embarrassing going to the local STI clinic…. Had been playing for years as well having lots off fun it fucked everything up!!! PS he was Spanish!! Told the club weeks later to make tgem aware they couldn’t care less " That’s actually illegal as you only consented to protected sex. | |||
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"I haven't had intercourse or oral, or anal with anyone other than my partner.I knew people at the fetish parties who confessed that they had herpes from giving oral. I've spoken to several people on here who have admitted that they have HIV. Some admit that they have other STI. They continue meeting others." That’s what’s scary, especially with those meeting on both sites who seem to not care about the risk to themselves or what they take home to their potential partners, or just think they are invincible | |||
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"Not on FAB but about 14 years ago me and my ex went sex club in Tenerife the guy fucked wife as he pulled his condom off 😡 and we both got gonareha fuckin embarrassing going to the local STI clinic…. Had been playing for years as well having lots off fun it fucked everything up!!! PS he was Spanish!! Told the club weeks later to make tgem aware they couldn’t care less " The club can't do much apart from stress the importance of protection they could ban him but that's it sadly | |||
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"I haven't had intercourse or oral, or anal with anyone other than my partner.I knew people at the fetish parties who confessed that they had herpes from giving oral. I've spoken to several people on here who have admitted that they have HIV. Some admit that they have other STI. They continue meeting others." That is horrifying if sadly unsurprising. It is obviously not a problem for you but I have often been approached by men in a club who want to fuck me without a condom, which I never allow them to do, who cheerfully tell me that it’s all right because they are on prep and have been tested, which even if I was naive enough to automatically believe them would be meaningless from my point of view and for protecting myself from infection. I don’t even suck cocks within a condom which a lot of men sulk about and won’t put up with, but especially if you are the one taking a cock in your mouth for oral sex is much more risky than for the man whose cock it is. Most people happily ignore the STI risks of oral sex, especially men, but the STI clinics are quite clear in their advice. | |||
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"I want to add this due to the fact that I know a girl who was seven years my junior. I don't know if she's with us anymore. She caught chlamydia and had other problems with STI. She was always going to the clinic to get tested. Coming out and being told that she had another STI. One day she came from the hospital to meet me in the park nearby. And told me that she had cancer of the womb and that it was caused by one of the STI she had caught. I don't know much about these things. I'm not sleeping with other people. So I haven't really become knowledgeable. But I understand that genital warts can go on to create cancer. And I think that's what caused it. I'm not shocked. But I am sickened by it. She had a hysterectomy aged 28." Yes genital warts are the hpv virus which is what they check for on a smear test and can lead to cervical cancer. It can clear up on its own with the body’s immune system but they do vaccinate girls from aged 13 in schools now to prevent it. I think a lot of people have the mindset well I’ll just take antibiotics if I get something but that is a silly way of looking at it as prevention is better than cure and things like herpies can never be cured! | |||
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"Unfortunately I was given an sti from a meet here we used protection but he removed it I didn't realise fast enough and he knowingly passed it on!! I was hospitalised and mortified and when contacted him he laughed so sadly there are some people who don't care!! I then tested numerous times to make sure clear but was horrified " That's a horrible and despicable thing to do what a rat . | |||
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"I want to add this due to the fact that I know a girl who was seven years my junior. I don't know if she's with us anymore. She caught chlamydia and had other problems with STI. She was always going to the clinic to get tested. Coming out and being told that she had another STI. One day she came from the hospital to meet me in the park nearby. And told me that she had cancer of the womb and that it was caused by one of the STI she had caught. I don't know much about these things. I'm not sleeping with other people. So I haven't really become knowledgeable. But I understand that genital warts can go on to create cancer. And I think that's what caused it. I'm not shocked. But I am sickened by it. She had a hysterectomy aged 28. Yes genital warts are the hpv virus which is what they check for on a smear test and can lead to cervical cancer. It can clear up on its own with the body’s immune system but they do vaccinate girls from aged 13 in schools now to prevent it. I think a lot of people have the mindset well I’ll just take antibiotics if I get something but that is a silly way of looking at it as prevention is better than cure and things like herpies can never be cured! " Genital warts are not caused by the same strain of HPV that can lead to cervical cancer. The genital wart causing HPV is referred to as low risk where the HPV they test for in smears that can cause cell changes and go on to cause cervical cancer is referred to as high risk | |||
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"Anyone that plays with multiple partners male or female run the gauntlet. Its amazing how many dont understand how sexual contact and STI/D's are transmitted. Look we all love to play and I for one have took the risk, anyone saying they never did or only play with "safe" friends are nieve. How many test regular? Regardless of when they last played? Incubation period infections can show up after a negative result" I get tested at least every three months, have been vaccinated and I am going on event based prep next week, and I used condoms when I suck cocks as well as when I am being fucked. I suck a lot of cocks and I get fucked a lot by many different men, however, and I don’t delude myself that it is risk free even with all the precautions that I take, however. | |||
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"What about HPV ? Most don’t know they have it…" The only time you find it out is at a smear test and they are now done routinely every 5 years. | |||
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"Errr, anyone genuinely interested in their or others well being would test regularly. It's a risk regardless, oral and kissing as we understand the greater of any Apologies 😔😘" Oral sex less risk than vaginal (but still very significant, and vaginal usually less than anal, I understand from reading and discussing it with the very good and helpful staff at the STI clinic. Kissing also a risk if involving tongues in mouths but also relatively minor, compared to oral sex etc. | |||
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"What about HPV ? Most don’t know they have it… The only time you find it out is at a smear test and they are now done routinely every 5 years. " And only if it’s active at the time of the smear. HPV, like other viruses like Herpes and Chicken Pox etc. live in the nerves and only activate when conditions are there, if at all. | |||
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"Broadly speaking, people who are into recreational sex are tested regularly, and it's very well self policed. The general population are more likely to have unknown STI's in my view. I think it's a myth that people on the 'scene' are carriers/spreaders. That said, something like 80% of sexually active adults worldwide carry HPV. I've tested every 3 months for years and years and never had anything. You also need to be communicating with ALL of your sexual partners on this subject. We have a duty of care to each other." This 100%. There’s a huge amount of stigma attached to people on the scene and promiscuous people, but in my experience, the people I meet are generally very conscientious and get tested regularly, as do I. Herpes is another extremely common ‘silent’ STI, especially amongst men, plus people don’t realise you can contact genital herpes from a cold sore and vice versa. Not that it’s a particularly nasty STI to get, but HSV2 can increase your risk of contracting HIV, especially if you’re a symptomatic carrier. The solution is so simple too- condoms ! Always! | |||
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"Trichomoniasis I just googled this and you are right they don’t do this as standard as apparently there is a different kind of swab needed, the regular ones from ICash don’t include it. " The test for Trichomonas was a swab poked up my urethra when I was tested some years ago -a truly eye watering experience- the test result was negative, which was a relief as a woman I had been with had previously tested positive. | |||
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"I've never heard of anyone getting STI from a Fab meet, but I'm guessing they wouldn't really advertise that, would they? All you can do is make sure your STD testing is up to date and take reasonable precautions on the day. Meaning use condoms, even for oral if that's what you'd prefer for your peace of mind. You can ask your potential meet for their latest STD test results but that's not going to be 100% accurate due to incubation times etc. " You know what you'll be surprised what people would admit on here. I'm not gonna plaster peoples names on here as it's their privacy, but then again I have seen a profile that has stated they like to be a human toilet and they have made it clear they like people to shit In their mouths. So yeah I do believe certain people would admit to having an STI. I thinks some people here are absolutely vile and disgusting. | |||
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"I've just been blocked by a couple who wanted a bi man to fuck them both, safe, we'd agreed a meet, I'd been totally upfront about what I'd been up to, the wife was cool with it and invited me to a meet. Them I told them I'd just been for a check up and took DoxyPep as an added precaution and suddenly I was treated like a leper! I think the "straight" community have a major problem with sexual health and responsibility" perhaps they assumed you were telling them that as a hint for without a condom. We have had guys tell us they are safe and on prep, so condoms weren't needed | |||
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"I've just been blocked by a couple who wanted a bi man to fuck them both, safe, we'd agreed a meet, I'd been totally upfront about what I'd been up to, the wife was cool with it and invited me to a meet. Them I told them I'd just been for a check up and took DoxyPep as an added precaution and suddenly I was treated like a leper! I think the "straight" community have a major problem with sexual health and responsibilityperhaps they assumed you were telling them that as a hint for without a condom. We have had guys tell us they are safe and on prep, so condoms weren't needed " Yes, there is a man at a club that I went to today who has more than once said that he’s on Prep and so doesn’t need to use condoms. I have been vaccinated for everything available and use Prep and Doxycycline and still use condoms for oral sex as well as when I am being fucked, but I am very promiscuous and have sex with several different men a month so it just isn’t worth the cumulative risk, and I have politely declined his invitation several times. A doctor at the clinic looked surprised and said that she was impressed that I still used condoms when sucking cocks, and I got the impression that although they recommend it not many people do. I said that I was probably the oldest whore in Oxfordshire and she smiled and said that I was probably the safest one! | |||
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"I've only ever caught anything from oral sex. I've always covered up for any other penetrating, and it was from people who had Sti in their throat that got me. Don't think it was someone from fab but one was from a similar site and twice just random fun after a night out" Indeed, and yet most people seem to think that oral sex is not an STI risk! | |||
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"I've only ever caught anything from oral sex. I've always covered up for any other penetrating, and it was from people who had Sti in their throat that got me. Don't think it was someone from fab but one was from a similar site and twice just random fun after a night out Indeed, and yet most people seem to think that oral sex is not an STI risk!" Yeah, seems to be mostly straight/bi-curious who are the most ignorant but surprising how many bi and gay men don't realise too | |||
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"I'm not aware of priority testing on sh24 Groups that are at high risk of passing on an STI are any that don't test regularly and those that don't realise you can get nearly everything by oral sex that you can by fucking and that things can be passed on by fingers toys etc Surely the approach should be get tested often and treated when required and inform partners of infection Ignorance and stigma act as catalysts for transmission " Ignorance of facts and science is also huge part of the STI problem. Just because you are not aware of it, it doesn't mean it's not factual. In the UK free STI testing services are prioritised for MSM for 3 main reasons Men that have sex with men (MSM) gay, bi and women that meet them are the highest risk groups Increased transmission risk - anal sex carries a higher risk of transmission than vaginal sex because the tissue is more delicate and prone to microtears. Network risk -MSM report higher participation in network based sex Increased partner risk - MSM report higher number of lifetime or recent partners and when both partners on May, the pregnancy risk is removed leading to less use of condoms | |||
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"Never had one." You might have one and never know. I'm not attempting to be an arse and jump on you, however, anyone could have a variant of herpes for example, never know this,have always played safe, and yet infect others. | |||
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"Never had one. You might have one and never know. I'm not attempting to be an arse and jump on you, however, anyone could have a variant of herpes for example, never know this,have always played safe, and yet infect others. " Yes, you are quite correct, of course, almost the only really safe sex is no sex at all, unless in a lifelong exclusive sexual relationship. | |||
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