FabSwingers.com forum: WHO are trying to take over the world..

By *o new Winks OP Man
over a year ago

BSE

...and the government's are letting them.

The combination of the new Charter (which member states will have to abide by) and the new Global sharing of digital health information (think COVID passport gone power mad) and soon we will be being told what to do by China and Bill Gates.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss

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By *entlemanFoxMan
over a year ago

North East / London

Do you need Bacofoil or are you happy with own brand.

Anyone who has worked in government or for international organizations realises how crashingly inefficient they are the chances of them taking over the local village fete never mind global domination are just fanciful.

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By *o new Winks OP Man
over a year ago

BSE

My point exactly.

However, the potential to ban travel if you aren't vaccinated is real enough. Amongst many, many other issues.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"Discuss"

This kind of stuff is very deliberately crafted for people to make money from YouTube videos. It's a grift. Conspiracy theories have become an industry and it's a shame people get taken in by it.

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By *unmatt888Man
over a year ago

Duns

"Do you need Bacofoil or are you happy with own brand.

The UN will probably track tinfoil sales; best to smelt drinks cans in your back garden over an old washing machine drum, then beat the product to a thin sheet with a hammer. Only way to be truly safe.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

If restrictions on travel had been implemented in January 2020 when China went into lockdown then it wouldn’t have become the global pandemic that it did. A friend had restrictions placed on them in October 2019 to stop them flying overseas as they knew what was coming. They worked for a large aircraft manufacturer.

It took us another 2 months to implement a lockdown by which time it was already too late. December 2019 and many of my colleagues had persistent coughs and some were treated for pneumonia.

While you may think that WHO and any travel restrictions imposed are a ‘nanny’ state, think of how much quicker this could’ve been resolved if we’d gone into a proper lockdown.

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By *uckmonkeyMan
over a year ago

devon

If it’s a question of who….I would say women and they are going to keep us captive and hopefully abuse us..

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

You'd think if someone has the certainty of their facts they wouldn't need to block you after sending an unsolicited message, but there we go

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By *im RoyleCouple
over a year ago

chester

Better then trusting uk Tory govt

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By *im RoyleCouple
over a year ago

chester

"If restrictions on travel had been implemented in January 2020 when China went into lockdown then it wouldn’t have become the global pandemic that it did. A friend had restrictions placed on them in October 2019 to stop them flying overseas as they knew what was coming. They worked for a large aircraft manufacturer.

It took us another 2 months to implement a lockdown by which time it was already too late. December 2019 and many of my colleagues had persistent coughs and some were treated for pneumonia.

While you may think that WHO and any travel restrictions imposed are a ‘nanny’ state, think of how much quicker this could’ve been resolved if we’d gone into a proper lockdown.

Exactly!!

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By *BCambsCouple
over a year ago

Biggleswade

Trouble with posts like this is I never know if it's a joke one or not.

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By *londebiguyMan
over a year ago

Southport

Hahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yawn ...

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By *eandmrsjones69Couple
over a year ago

Middle England

"John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

Guess John Campbell has to try to keep the money rolling in somehow.

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By *eliusMan
over a year ago

Henlow

"Do you need Bacofoil or are you happy with own brand.

Yes, but you will be tracked by the false god NASA and its satloons (balloons pretending to be satellites) circling the flat earth … better this is done underground.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you need Bacofoil or are you happy with own brand.

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By *lice AgainTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

"Do you need Bacofoil or are you happy with own brand.

This. The end.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

I received an unsolicited message relating to this post but I see they don’t have the balls to actually comment in the forum.

I love people with conspiracy theories who think they know it all when they know nothing about the people I work with. I didn’t need the internet or the news to know what was happening so my information wasn’t tainted.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

"I received an unsolicited message relating to this post but I see they don’t have the balls to actually comment in the forum.

Yes, this happens often.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My point exactly.

However, the potential to ban travel if you aren't vaccinated is real enough. Amongst many, many other issues.

You do realise vaccines for travel have been mandatory for years with certain countries and certain diseases?

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By *lice AgainTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

"I received an unsolicited message relating to this post but I see they don’t have the balls to actually comment in the forum."

You too huh?

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By *orthmanMan
over a year ago

Kendal

WHO are trying to take over the world? I am a little surprised the Messrs Townshend and Daltrey have the energy remaining for that after such long, distinguished and hectic careers in rock and roll.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss

Guess John Campbell has to try to keep the money rolling in somehow. "

Fear porn is profitable. They are the poor put upon elite that the sheeple are finding new ways to oppress. Only by watching Truthiness Be Us, Da, you can stop the incoming apocalypse! Wake up!

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"My point exactly.

However, the potential to ban travel if you aren't vaccinated is real enough. Amongst many, many other issues.

You do realise vaccines for travel have been mandatory for years with certain countries and certain diseases?"

Shhhhhhh.

This is the virus forum.

Facts aren't allowed.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"My point exactly.

However, the potential to ban travel if you aren't vaccinated is real enough. Amongst many, many other issues.

You do realise vaccines for travel have been mandatory for years with certain countries and certain diseases?

Shhhhhhh.

This is the virus forum.

Facts aren't allowed.

Truthiness remains entertaining though.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"I received an unsolicited message relating to this post but I see they don’t have the balls to actually comment in the forum.

Have had a couple of these messages too. Both with no actual argument to make.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I received an unsolicited message relating to this post but I see they don’t have the balls to actually comment in the forum.

Have had a couple of these messages too. Both with no actual argument to make."

I think at this point we've heard all the arguments, and can make up our own mind, rather than needing the messages?

I've also heard of Jesus and why he loves me so much that his all powerful daddy has to barbecue me forever unless I feed his narcissistic supply?

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Yes, who are doing a global digital health certification network, it seem to be about more control doesnt it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

Could be worse; you could live in Scotland, smoke free by 2025 (no smoking)

alcohol minimum pricing and soon to be a ban on all advertising

Our whacko Scottish Government intend to ban short term lets, airBnB.

They even banned Music from bars, restaurants and nightclubs back during the covid years lol.

they are working on ways to price cars out of reach for the average working family.

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By *o new Winks OP Man
over a year ago

BSE

"Yes, who are doing a global digital health certification network, it seem to be about more control doesnt it?"

Exactly Shag.

Once established, this removal of freedom will be impossible to get back.

Regardless of how useless they are, or the fact that there are limits on movements already in place, the fact that there will be one, unelected group who will be deciding the globes health policies (like 5% of our health spending going to them for example ?) should make everyone think twice.

And it's not like anyone will get to vote on it.

People may mock my points, however, the WHO are doing it for a reason, and are confident of it being taken up.

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By *o new Winks OP Man
over a year ago

BSE

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss

Could be worse; you could live in Scotland, smoke free by 2025 (no smoking)

alcohol minimum pricing and soon to be a ban on all advertising

Our whacko Scottish Government intend to ban short term lets, airBnB.

They even banned Music from bars, restaurants and nightclubs back during the covid years lol.

they are working on ways to price cars out of reach for the average working family."

I didn't know about this. Interesting.

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By *entlemanFoxMan
over a year ago

North East / London

"I received an unsolicited message relating to this post but I see they don’t have the balls to actually comment in the forum.

You too huh?

Not me, I feel left out. Then again probably not.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I received an unsolicited message relating to this post but I see they don’t have the balls to actually comment in the forum.

You too huh?

Not me, I feel left out. Then again probably not."

I didn't either. Thank fuck for message filters

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

I suggest you look up what a charter is.

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By *inkyguyUKMan
over a year ago

worcester

Yup the Who are taking over and my generation won't get fooled again

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Yup the Who are taking over and my generation won't get fooled again "

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By *rancois Du BoisMan
over a year ago

Down the back of the sofa.

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

Get a grip man.

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By *amieLDN22Man
over a year ago

London

Oh god not this again. Let it go man.

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By *unmatt888Man
over a year ago

Duns

"Yup the Who are taking over and my generation won't get fooled again "

I Can’t Explain why, so I’m Going Mobile on The Magic Bus!

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By *d4funtimesMan
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Yes, who are doing a global digital health certification network, it seem to be about more control doesnt it?

Exactly Shag.

Once established, this removal of freedom will be impossible to get back.

And it's not like anyone will get to vote on it.

People may mock my points, however, the WHO are doing it for a reason, and are confident of it being taken up. "

WHO is most of the time out of cash to help developing countries accessing basic health care and preventing diseases that disappear 50 years ago in most developed countries.

Read valid resources or start watching David Attenborough wild life documentaries, a good step towards education.

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By *mp411Man
over a year ago

chester

""Discuss"

This kind of stuff is very deliberately crafted for people to make money from YouTube videos. It's a grift. Conspiracy theories have become an industry and it's a shame people get taken in by it.

Nah mate I’ve seen tedros (WHO director) giving a press conference on this so it’s not a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.

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By *eandmrsjones69Couple
over a year ago

Middle England

What is the purpose of international organisations, why collaborate with other countries?

You can't micro manage every decision ever made. Have a vote on every detail of day to day life.

As stated before this is a discussion over nothing; raised by someone with a vested interest in an attempt to keep themselves relevant with an incoming revenue stream.

Get out more and enjoy life.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"OP

What is the purpose of international organisations, why collaborate with other countries?

You can't micro manage every decision ever made. Have a vote on every detail of day to day life.

As stated before this is a discussion over nothing; raised by someone with a vested interest in an attempt to keep themselves relevant with an incoming revenue stream.

Get out more and enjoy life."

Yes. Those who've made a lot of money spreading fear of Covid measures and vaccines are pivoting as the issue recedes in the public consciousness.

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By *ormal47Man
over a year ago

Stockton

So many sheep......

Unbelievable

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By *ikeybr0Man
over a year ago

Newport

I don’t see why there can’t be a referendum on the pandemic treaty and if it’s best for the country the public will decide.

Handing over global decision making to one organisation doesn’t sound very democratic.

Why can’t people be concerned?

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

It is funny what people believe that the WHO actually do.

They ultimately are an advisory body, they have the advantage of being able to look at the "World Picture" when publishing their advice, but they can't tell countries what they have to do.

In the covid pandemic, literally ZERO countries followed the WHO advice to the letter. Some even ignored it entirely, whilst most took the advice and applied their own political slant to create a balance they could sell to their people.

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

Discuss...We personally are more worried about the so called big tech/corporations avoiding tax by playing countries against each other ?? plus our water companies dumping shit into our sea and rivers or big oil/gas merrily polluting just about everything and lying scum bags like Trump and johnson getting their mucky blood drenched hands on power again ?? and supermarkets basically ripping off everyone ?? but that's just us xxx

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"OP

What is the purpose of international organisations, why collaborate with other countries?

You can't micro manage every decision ever made. Have a vote on every detail of day to day life.

As stated before this is a discussion over nothing; raised by someone with a vested interest in an attempt to keep themselves relevant with an incoming revenue stream.

Get out more and enjoy life."

I think that's naive. Why do companies and govts want to gather and trade all of our personal details and information. Its currently a trade off between convenience and ignorance. Why should i need to register to make a purchase or browse? Is one example. Why is cash disappearing and only payment by card. Companies know what we buy when ourbperiods are when we have headaches, where we work, holiday, what we drive, where and how fast... They arent gathering and managing all of that Intel for no reason. The reason is just not yet apparent.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

"So many sheep in Wales.

Unbelievable

You're not wrong.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

"I don’t see why there can’t be a referendum on the pandemic treaty and if it’s best for the country the public will decide.

Handing over global decision making to one organisation doesn’t sound very democratic.

Why can’t people be concerned? "

What have I missed? The WHO has an advisory capacity.

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By *loscouplegl3Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Not sure that they are. But I have no problem if they did. Some a solid mix of science based fact and common sense would be a refreshing change

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Would be better than the catastrophe that the failed sociopaths who were in the USA and just ran scared from the UK parliament

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"OP

What is the purpose of international organisations, why collaborate with other countries?

You can't micro manage every decision ever made. Have a vote on every detail of day to day life.

As stated before this is a discussion over nothing; raised by someone with a vested interest in an attempt to keep themselves relevant with an incoming revenue stream.

Get out more and enjoy life.

The main driver behind cashless isn't data gathering, it's profit. The process is quicker and requires less staff, there are no counting errors or incorrect change, there's no need for "cashing up" at the end of the day or risky carrying large amounts of cash too the bank (or paying for collections). These are all very attractive to many businesses.

Obviously the flip side to cashless is that there is less tipping of service staff, no dropping change in a collection bucket, no sticking a tenner in your nephew's birthday card, no easy daily budgeting, no tax free "cheap barrow jobs", no car boot sales, no secret purchase of presents for your other half (or mistress)

Cal

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It is funny what people believe that the WHO actually do.

They ultimately are an advisory body, they have the advantage of being able to look at the "World Picture" when publishing their advice, but they can't tell countries what they have to do.

Thus we see their enormous power that no one could escape, and why we should be afraid of them.

Public health? Petrifying hellscape more like. Amirite?

Anyone see the headline that TB might be a problem? They're not even secretive about the fact that they're lying to destroy your freedom. TB is nothing but tyrannical bullshit. Protect our freedom!

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By *esYesOMGYes!Man
over a year ago

M20

They gave such poor advice and now they claim to be the experts.

Either they are incompetent or they are malign.

Either way they don’t get my support.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you need Bacofoil or are you happy with own brand.

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By *anclad20500Man
over a year ago

Salford

February 2022 I had covid - 5 times since then I’ve had pneumonia (I say 5 times it quite possibly never went away but the symptoms got better

It took us another 2 months to implement a lockdown by which time it was already too late. December 2019 and many of my colleagues had persistent coughs and some were treated for pneumonia.

While you may think that WHO and any travel restrictions imposed are a ‘nanny’ state, think of how much quicker this could’ve been resolved if we’d gone into a proper lockdown.

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By *xhib12Man
over a year ago

Blyth

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

Do you really believe this? Are you really telling everyone you're that gullible? Are you really an intelligent adult with the propensity to think for yourself?

Give your head a good wobble, take a long hard look in the mirror and then get on with living your life instead of concerning yourself with absolute nonsense.

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By *ortyairCouple
over a year ago

Wallasey

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss

Do you really believe this? Are you really telling everyone you're that gullible? Are you really an intelligent adult with the propensity to think for yourself?

Give your head a good wobble, take a long hard look in the mirror and then get on with living your life instead of concerning yourself with absolute nonsense."
The 'wobbling' of heads, whilst wearing a tin foil hat is counter intuitive, just saying xxx

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By *orMatureWomenAndCouplesMan
over a year ago

Ipswich

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

This sort of post is the exact reason why this particular forum should be shut down.

Read peer reviewed science, not garbage on the internet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss

This sort of post is the exact reason why this particular forum should be shut down.

Read peer reviewed science, not garbage on the internet."

Au contraire Rodney.

If this forum were to be shut down, we’d have to read it somewhere else.

At least in here, it can be avoided by simply not clicking the virus section.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss

This sort of post is the exact reason why this particular forum should be shut down.

Read peer reviewed science, not garbage on the internet."

Independent peer reviewed science maybe. The beauty of science is if you pay enough you can get some peer reviewed science to say whatever you want... As the last few years have evidenced.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss

This sort of post is the exact reason why this particular forum should be shut down.

Read peer reviewed science, not garbage on the internet.

Independent peer reviewed science maybe. The beauty of science is if you pay enough you can get some peer reviewed science to say whatever you want... As the last few years have evidenced. "

You both are probably talking of peer reviewed research rather than articles. You then have the opportunity to critique it yourself.

After three years of reviewing hundreds and hundreds of pieces of peer reviewed papers, I don't want to do it my free time

. And peer reviewed doesn't guarantee a good piece of research.

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By *eFCUKaLotCouple
over a year ago

somewhere close

Love threads like this, if I’m feeling down I can always come here for a pick me up

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

Good golly miss Molly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It took us another 2 months to implement a lockdown by which time it was already too late. December 2019 and many of my colleagues had persistent coughs and some were treated for pneumonia.

While you may think that WHO and any travel restrictions imposed are a ‘nanny’ state, think of how much quicker this could’ve been resolved if we’d gone into a proper lockdown.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

I reckon we need a more believable world takeover.

Anyone remember V in the middle d eighties (it has been remade since)... So the lizards are winning ?

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By *leasurePiercerMan
over a year ago

Midlands

I personally believe that it was too late to stop covid spreading across the globe as it did when they realised what they were dealing with. You have to remeber many people were asymptomatic, and the virus was probably already in many countries, before it was identified as a major issue. It seems to be under control now fortunately.

We can now ho back to worrying about how we are destroying our precious planet. Viruses will be of little concern when we have no air to breath, food to eat or safe water to drink.

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By *leasurePiercerMan
over a year ago

Midlands

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By *leasurePiercerMan
over a year ago

Midlands

"I reckon we need a more believable world takeover.

Anyone remember V in the middle d eighties (it has been remade since)... So the lizards are winning ?

False widow spiders are taking over the UK atm. Not many people care when I tell them. I was bitten last week and it wasn't pleasant.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

"[Removed by poster at 10/06/23 21:15:15]"

I'm emigrating.... And I saw you typed about false black widow spiders

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I personally believe that it was too late to stop covid spreading across the globe as it did when they realised what they were dealing with. You have to remeber many people were asymptomatic, and the virus was probably already in many countries, before it was identified as a major issue. It seems to be under control now fortunately.

We can now ho back to worrying about how we are destroying our precious planet. Viruses will be of little concern when we have no air to breath, food to eat or safe water to drink."

It's my understanding that climate change will accelerate the risk of viral spillover. So... Why not both?

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By *leasurePiercerMan
over a year ago

Midlands

"[Removed by poster at 10/06/23 21:15:15]

I'm emigrating.... And I saw you typed about false black widow spiders

Unless you are going to the Artic they will get to you. They happily adjusted to our British weather after a life in

the Moroccan sun. Probably already nesting in your suitcase.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i love these conspiracy theories,

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By *ainbows_can_be_metal_tooCouple
over a year ago

Darlington

I had all the symptoms of COVID and was put into hospital being treated with pneumonia in December 2019 so yeah a little while before people and officials knew what was going on

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By *fricanguyMan
over a year ago

warr

Easy on them vacci or pink pills people

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By *orMatureWomenAndCouplesMan
over a year ago

Ipswich

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss

This sort of post is the exact reason why this particular forum should be shut down.

Read peer reviewed science, not garbage on the internet.

Au contraire Rodney.

If this forum were to be shut down, we’d have to read it somewhere else.

At least in here, it can be avoided by simply not clicking the virus section.

Excellent point! Let’s keep it open

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Ad much as i detest the phrase "wake up". Some of the points people make are simply making folk aware of some of the stuff thats going on. Whether there is anything mpre sinister behind it.. Who knows. But there are some very large and powerful organisations and movements now. Ignorance may be bliss. Or it may not be. Ubiquitous intrusion of "technology" may make life better and safer and cheaper and healyhiet and happier...or it may not. Probably everyones not the same.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

"Do you need Bacofoil or are you happy with own brand.

Well put

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Ad much as i detest the phrase "wake up". Some of the points people make are simply making folk aware of some of the stuff thats going on. Whether there is anything mpre sinister behind it.. Who knows. But there are some very large and powerful organisations and movements now. Ignorance may be bliss. Or it may not be. Ubiquitous intrusion of "technology" may make life better and safer and cheaper and healyhiet and happier...or it may not. Probably everyones not the same. "

It might be helpful as a strategy if it weren't followed, nearly universally, by stuff that's only cited on the dodgiest of websites or is easily shown to be rubbish with a few minutes of looking at it seriously.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

WHO knows?

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

What john did was to talk about everything that was on whos web site, regarding the global digital health certification network.

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By *unmatt888Man
over a year ago

Duns

"Companies know what we buy when ourbperiods are when we have headaches, where we work, holiday, what we drive, where and how fast... They arent gathering and managing all of that Intel for no reason. The reason is just not yet apparent. "

Of course it’s apparent. It’s for targeted advertising.

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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

I thought that Dr WHO saved the world…. It was only the Dalek’s that wanted to take it over….

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By *ady GoodwitchWoman
over a year ago

Witchery wish lane

I like to check facts and have done lots of research, yes the WHO want to rule our lives !! I listened to a conspiracy theorist in 2017 thought they needed a tin hat lol turns out everything they told me is now facts from the fake plandemic to the jabs, 15 minute city's, and digital ID and cashless society, which I don't want as they will be telling us what we can and can't buy!! I was hoping my conspiracy friend was wrong but as I said it all happened even to the fake war so I'm listening to him now

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"I like to check facts and have done lots of research, yes the WHO want to rule our lives !! I listened to a conspiracy theorist in 2017 thought they needed a tin hat lol turns out everything they told me is now facts from the fake plandemic to the jabs, 15 minute city's, and digital ID and cashless society, which I don't want as they will be telling us what we can and can't buy!! I was hoping my conspiracy friend was wrong but as I said it all happened even to the fake war so I'm listening to him now "

I genuinely can't tell if this is sarcastic or not.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

Some conspiracy theories have elements of truth to them, making them plausible. Not sure where the flat earthers' element of truth is though

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By *xhib12Man
over a year ago

Blyth

There is no conspiracy. All of these things are happening because of technology. Some people like the advancements and some don't. Like it or not, technology will always move forward. Unfortunately people's ability to understand this doesn't keep up.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Some conspiracy theories have elements of truth to them, making them plausible. Not sure where the flat earthers' element of truth is though

Yeah, they all start with an element of truth, but the logical links go like a-b-q-squirrel - I need more robust and linear logic.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

Which fake war and fake pandemic...did I miss something?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Is he nostradamus?

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

Which fake war and fake pandemic...did I miss something?"

Oh no, don't feed it

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

Is there no end to the finger pointing?

Who's (excuse the pun) next the RSPCA?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss

Is there no end to the finger pointing?

Who's (excuse the pun) next the RSPCA?

If we'd been meaner to bats maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Or maybe someone has a problem with sheep?

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By *heCelticMythMan
over a year ago

dublin

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

John Campbell ?????? Pure chancer!

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By *ox1 red leaderMan
over a year ago

farnham

"OP

What is the purpose of international organisations, why collaborate with other countries?

You can't micro manage every decision ever made. Have a vote on every detail of day to day life.

As stated before this is a discussion over nothing; raised by someone with a vested interest in an attempt to keep themselves relevant with an incoming revenue stream.

Get out more and enjoy life.

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By *ox1 red leaderMan
over a year ago

farnham

"They gave such poor advice and now they claim to be the experts.

Either they are incompetent or they are malign.

Either way they don’t get my support."

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"OP

What is the purpose of international organisations, why collaborate with other countries?

You can't micro manage every decision ever made. Have a vote on every detail of day to day life.

As stated before this is a discussion over nothing; raised by someone with a vested interest in an attempt to keep themselves relevant with an incoming revenue stream.

Get out more and enjoy life.

As pointed out previously the reason is very very apparent. Companies want to target advertising so they can sell you stuff.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"OP

What is the purpose of international organisations, why collaborate with other countries?

You can't micro manage every decision ever made. Have a vote on every detail of day to day life.

As stated before this is a discussion over nothing; raised by someone with a vested interest in an attempt to keep themselves relevant with an incoming revenue stream.

Get out more and enjoy life.

Wait for AI to come into place, then real monitoring of the population can start......

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"OP

What is the purpose of international organisations, why collaborate with other countries?

You can't micro manage every decision ever made. Have a vote on every detail of day to day life.

As stated before this is a discussion over nothing; raised by someone with a vested interest in an attempt to keep themselves relevant with an incoming revenue stream.

Get out more and enjoy life.

As pointed out previously the reason is very very apparent. Companies want to target advertising so they can sell you stuff."

One of the reasons. Im sure there are many others

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

I think the title gives it away.

WORLD health organisation......

Did you overlook that bit?

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By *heekyDemandCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

"Do you need Bacofoil or are you happy with own brand.

They track drinks cans, in fact all aluminium is tracked by radio isotopes at the foundry. That's why aluminium ore is called Bauxite, because everything I just said is total baulocks.

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By *o new Winks OP Man
over a year ago

BSE

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss

I think the title gives it away.

WORLD health organisation......

Did you overlook that bit?"

No. But did you miss the "Organisation" and not "dictatorship" ?

And I am not going anywhere near the "Health" aspect.

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By *oriarty99Man
over a year ago

London

This forum should be renamed Conspiracy Theories.

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

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By *o new Winks OP Man
over a year ago

BSE

"This forum should be renamed the "Head in the Sand Forum"

Sorted that for you.

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By *DAM69Man
over a year ago

Thailand

Just VOTE these fools out of office and get a totally new party in .

Like Reform UK .

Its the only way to stop these clowns. Other countries are turning towards other parties .

And are much happier .

UK is full of miserable people now .

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By *innerforthreeMan
over a year ago

London/herts

"Just VOTE these fools out of office and get a totally new party in .

Like Reform UK .

Its the only way to stop these clowns. Other countries are turning towards other parties .

And are much happier .

UK is full of miserable people now . "

Erm Reform UK is just the same old lot, just with the ones who were too mad/incompetent/racist for the tories.

Hardly a new start!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Just VOTE these fools out of office and get a totally new party in .

Like Reform UK .

Its the only way to stop these clowns. Other countries are turning towards other parties .

And are much happier .

UK is full of miserable people now . "

That sounds like sorting out a paper cut by taking a gun to it.

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By *innerforthreeMan
over a year ago

London/herts

"Just VOTE these fools out of office and get a totally new party in .

Like Reform UK .

Its the only way to stop these clowns. Other countries are turning towards other parties .

And are much happier .

UK is full of miserable people now .

That sounds like sorting out a paper cut by taking a gun to it."

That reform UK idiot on question time last night....wanted to start world war 3 in northern Ireland....

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Just VOTE these fools out of office and get a totally new party in .

Like Reform UK .

Its the only way to stop these clowns. Other countries are turning towards other parties .

And are much happier .

UK is full of miserable people now .

That sounds like sorting out a paper cut by taking a gun to it.

That reform UK idiot on question time last night....wanted to start world war 3 in northern Ireland...."

It's just grievance politics. Everything sucks so burn it all down.

... I don't know about you, but destroying shit doesn't usually make it better.

People need to be heard, but we need a better solution than just destructive tendencies.

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By *innerforthreeMan
over a year ago

London/herts

"Just VOTE these fools out of office and get a totally new party in .

Like Reform UK .

Its the only way to stop these clowns. Other countries are turning towards other parties .

And are much happier .

UK is full of miserable people now .

That sounds like sorting out a paper cut by taking a gun to it.

That reform UK idiot on question time last night....wanted to start world war 3 in northern Ireland....

It's just grievance politics. Everything sucks so burn it all down.

... I don't know about you, but destroying shit doesn't usually make it better.

People need to be heard, but we need a better solution than just destructive tendencies."

Yup...that and ideologists who can't compromise. Always a route to disaster

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who what what what where who what what what where

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Who what what what where who what what what where "

Fancy seeing you in here.

... yeah. that.

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By *om RakewellMan
over a year ago

stafford

"Just VOTE these fools out of office and get a totally new party in .

Like Reform UK .

Its the only way to stop these clowns. Other countries are turning towards other parties .

And are much happier .

UK is full of miserable people now .

That sounds like sorting out a paper cut by taking a gun to it.

That reform UK idiot on question time last night....wanted to start world war 3 in northern Ireland...."

Saw that .. I’m surprised he’s not being toasted over hot coals in all the papers today

He surmised we haven’t had a full Brexit because NI still has a border! Which he thinks should be removed immediately and that will somehow form a ‘ proper United Kingdom’ which would allow Brexit to work properly

insane level of crazy anyone ever failing to consider NI when Brexit was mentioned right from the start .. a lot of people there would absolutely not want sovereignty or to become subjects . They seem to have been making that clear for a very long time !

Yet Cameron and Cronies in London assumed that that percentage of the populous would just roll over

Never going to happen .. as most of the country already knew

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By *innerforthreeMan
over a year ago

London/herts

"Just VOTE these fools out of office and get a totally new party in .

Like Reform UK .

Its the only way to stop these clowns. Other countries are turning towards other parties .

And are much happier .

UK is full of miserable people now .

That sounds like sorting out a paper cut by taking a gun to it.

That reform UK idiot on question time last night....wanted to start world war 3 in northern Ireland....

Saw that .. I’m surprised he’s not being toasted over hot coals in all the papers today

Yet Cameron and Cronies in London assumed that that percentage of the populous would just roll over

Never going to happen .. as most of the country already knew

:/ "

In fact NI is receiving more investment from foreign countries than the rest of the UK precisely because it's benefitting from effectively being in the EU.

I mean who knew....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well said -one of the sadnesses of the whole conspiracy movement is that it reflects the reality of the way that more and more people have been left behind by the migration of wealth to the super rich-leaving Joe Blow with no power, just be a load of confusion and resentment..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""Discuss"

This kind of stuff is very deliberately crafted for people to make money from YouTube videos. It's a grift. Conspiracy theories have become an industry and it's a shame people get taken in by it.

Very well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you need Bacofoil or are you happy with own brand.

Yes, but you will be tracked by the false god NASA and its satloons (balloons pretending to be satellites) circling the flat earth … better this is done underground."

??????

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Well said -one of the sadnesses of the whole conspiracy movement is that it reflects the reality of the way that more and more people have been left behind by the migration of wealth to the super rich-leaving Joe Blow with no power, just be a load of confusion and resentment.."

The rich benefit from the conspiracy theories, because it's a distraction from the real problems.

So we waste our time arguing about stuff like this - not that it isn't a problem in its own right - while the people we all have a problem with get away with more and more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

Funny how conspiracy nuts never seem to know how to use spell check… Oh -dang of course -that would just be another way to keep them in ‘the matrix’…!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You'd think if someone has the certainty of their facts they wouldn't need to block you after sending an unsolicited message, but there we go

Oh dear -did he turn out to be yet another RightWhinger…. never stop going on about being cancelled -until there’s something THEY don’t like and then it’s stripping libraries out of schools and etc…

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By *inley400Man
over a year ago

Kings Langley

"Yup the Who are taking over and my generation won't get fooled again "

Your a pinball wizard mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss"

What

Load

Bollocks

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By *aggonerMan
over a year ago

for a penny

But I thought they did rule the world. How else could they be called WORLD Health Organisation?

It would be dishonest otherwise.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"...and the government's are letting them.

What do you all think ?

John Campbell...yes I know how some of you feel about him...has posted co tent over the last week or so showing the potential he'll we are heading for.

Discuss

What

Load

Bollocks"

Good discussion, go to the foot of our stairs

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By *einu2Man
over a year ago

Castledawson

"It took us another 2 months to implement a lockdown by which time it was already too late"

And for that exact reason we never should have locked the country down and destroyed businesses.

The virus was everywhere and lockdown did nothing but destroy lives.

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By *ldgeezermeMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

""It took us another 2 months to implement a lockdown by which time it was already too late"

And for that exact reason we never should have locked the country down and destroyed businesses.

The virus was everywhere and lockdown did nothing but destroy lives."

Autocorrect has changed save to destroy

HTH

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

Well they can’t do any worse than the current world leaders

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By *ome on downMan
over a year ago

Teesside

"Well they can’t do any worse than the current world leaders

They sure plan too

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

"Well they can’t do any worse than the current world leaders

They sure plan too "

What are they planning that's worse, why would they do that and how do you know this?

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By *ldgeezermeMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"The main goal of this treaty would be to foster an all of government and all of society approach, strengthening national, regional and global capacities and resilience to future pandemics. This includes greatly enhancing international co-operation to improve, for example, alert systems, data-sharing, research and local, regional and global production and distribution of medical and public health counter-measures such as vaccines, medicines, diagnostics and personal protective equipment."

I mean, how scary is that, of course it's what they're not saying that's important. Or something

Dig deeper and you'll find the chemtrails

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pinky and the brain ?

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By *loscouplegl3Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

""The main goal of this treaty would be to foster an all of government and all of society approach, strengthening national, regional and global capacities and resilience to future pandemics. This includes greatly enhancing international co-operation to improve, for example, alert systems, data-sharing, research and local, regional and global production and distribution of medical and public health counter-measures such as vaccines, medicines, diagnostics and personal protective equipment."

I mean, how scary is that, of course it's what they're not saying that's important. Or something

Dig deeper and you'll find the chemtrails"

That all to the good. Reducing nationalism and furthering internationalism is the obvious way forward for humanity. Stupid squabbles over who thinks should be in charge of which patch of mud has got to go.

Sadly WHO don’t have the grand agenda you are alluding to. I wish they did.

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

""Discuss"

This kind of stuff is very deliberately crafted for people to make money from YouTube videos. It's a grift. Conspiracy theories have become an industry and it's a shame people get taken in by it.

It wasn't too long ago that-SR71 Blackbird, the Psychic Spying programme(inspiration for the film "the men who stare at goats"),Psychedelic drug experiments on military personnel,Arms to Iran(Colonel Oliver North),Air Secretariat A2a (MOD UFO desk),ex British

Military/special forces contracted to kill Pablo Escobar,Stealth aircraft,HAARP,Finding people by their mobile phone signal,Project Echelon,Hiv/Hep in blood transfusions etc etc etc were considered conspiracy theories.Now we know them to be true.Careful what you dismiss.Those seeking to hide the truth know that a viable option is to hide it in a conspiracy theory.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

A question for OP and others...

Let’s assume this is true. That the WHO (and therefore the UN) is indeed taking over the world. What does that mean for each of us as individual people? How will our lives change as a result?

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

""Discuss"

This kind of stuff is very deliberately crafted for people to make money from YouTube videos. It's a grift. Conspiracy theories have become an industry and it's a shame people get taken in by it.

Exactly. Once upon a time people believed the earth was flat

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By *hristopherd999Man
over a year ago

Brentwood

WHO?

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By *eandmrsjones69Couple
over a year ago

Middle England

""Discuss"

This kind of stuff is very deliberately crafted for people to make money from YouTube videos. It's a grift. Conspiracy theories have become an industry and it's a shame people get taken in by it.

Exactly. Once upon a time people believed the earth was flat

From my limited understanding Project Echelon was set up during the Cold War. I'm sure even now, rightly or wrongly, countries spy on each other. But it wouldn't have been much of a secret if you announced such a program existed.

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""Discuss"

This kind of stuff is very deliberately crafted for people to make money from YouTube videos. It's a grift. Conspiracy theories have become an industry and it's a shame people get taken in by it.

Exactly. Once upon a time people believed the earth was flat

And some still do - truly *the* stupidest people on the planet.

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

Amazing how many are fully aware of this so called super duper top secret and beyond stuff and seem quite happily spreading it over the tinternet and yet the dark forces or whatever beyond top secret government/elite/lizzard over lords who have near complete access to everything ( including what loo paper we prefer etc etc ) and yet they never ever get a knock on the door late at night or magically have accidents whilst popping down the shops for their favourite brand of loo paper ??? and perhaps it's BECAUSE they do actually control most of the stuff we need to survive ?? already ??? like the tinternet/gas/oil/water/electrickery/food prices/banks and even funnier ( maybe) they don't even bother hiding it .....xxxx

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

""Discuss"

This kind of stuff is very deliberately crafted for people to make money from YouTube videos. It's a grift. Conspiracy theories have become an industry and it's a shame people get taken in by it.

Exactly. Once upon a time people believed the earth was flat

The difference is we know the Earth is not.We know the above "conspiracy theories"turned out to be true.

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

""Discuss"

This kind of stuff is very deliberately crafted for people to make money from YouTube videos. It's a grift. Conspiracy theories have become an industry and it's a shame people get taken in by it.

Exactly. Once upon a time people believed the earth was flat

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing? "

Echelon is a relatively modern programme which eavesdrops on all civilian international landline and mobile calls,texts and e-mails,using programmed keyword/name/phrase technology.The existence of the programme was confirmed accidentally by an Australian Air Force Intelligence Officer who referred to its roll in preventing a terrorist attack

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By *eandmrsjones69Couple
over a year ago

Middle England

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By *eandmrsjones69Couple
over a year ago

Middle England

"From my limited understanding Project Echelon was set up during the Cold War. I'm sure even now, rightly or wrongly, countries spy on each other. But it wouldn't have been much of a secret if you announced such a program existed.

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

With all the TV programs etc etc over the years I'm sure 'people of interest' probably know they are being monitored; whoever heard of 'burner phones' a few years ago. Surely that's no great 'secret'.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!"

Security isnt a dirty word... Crevice is a dirty word

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By *orksRockerMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Don't get from fooled again then OP

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By *exhillboyMan
over a year ago

Vilamoura Portugal

The trouble with this and all the other discussion threads in the Virus section is it is so difficult to tell the difference between genuinely knowlegable people, conspiracy theorists and facebook experts.

I can only assume that this long after the results of Covid enquiries, genuine facts about the efficacy of the vaccine rather than facebook facts everyone still banging on about it has to be a nutter, oh dear does that mean me too?

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!"

The point I am making is that just because something is branded a conspiracy theory does not mean it is not true.If you don't want to know about something,in other words make a decision based on as much info as possible,that's fine.I'm sure the people infected with HIV/Hep would have liked the truth at the time instead of "it's all a conspiracy",my great uncle would have appreciated the truth about asbestos,a farmer mate would have liked all the known(at the time) facts about organophosphates.At the very beginning of the vaccine rollouts news organisations were denying serious and fatal reactions to the jab,branding such events as anti Vax conspiracy theories.Que a torrent of replies accusing me of being anti Vax.I am not.Astra Zeneca.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"A question for OP and others...

Let’s assume this is true. That the WHO (and therefore the UN) is indeed taking over the world. What does that mean for each of us as individual people? How will our lives change as a result?"

Nothing then!

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By *rs-Naughty_Mr-CuddlesCouple
over a year ago

Nr coleford

The loonies

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By *rotic desiresWoman
over a year ago

Here and there

"A question for OP and others...

Let’s assume this is true. That the WHO (and therefore the UN) is indeed taking over the world. What does that mean for each of us as individual people? How will our lives change as a result?

Nothing then!

With the signing of the WHO pandemic treaty, every government has given up sovereignty in decisions over the health of its people, animals and our planet when the WHO decides to call a pandemic.

The agreement is an international legally binding agreement and a "One Health" approach will be implemented.

So if the WHO decides to lockdown, an individual government/country cannot legally go against this.

If the WHO decides a certain medication or preventative treatment is to be administered to whoever they decide, an individual government/country cannot legally oppose this intervention.

This does not only apply to human diseases. This applies to animals and it applies to the "health of the planet".

Cash is on its way out, digital pound/digital currency is on its way in, alongside a digital id.

Read into that what you will.

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By *dysseusukMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"A question for OP and others...

Let’s assume this is true. That the WHO (and therefore the UN) is indeed taking over the world. What does that mean for each of us as individual people? How will our lives change as a result?

Nothing then!

With the signing of the WHO pandemic treaty, every government has given up sovereignty in decisions over the health of its people, animals and our planet when the WHO decides to call a pandemic.

The agreement is an international legally binding agreement and a "One Health" approach will be implemented.

So if the WHO decides to lockdown, an individual government/country cannot legally go against this.

If the WHO decides a certain medication or preventative treatment is to be administered to whoever they decide, an individual government/country cannot legally oppose this intervention.

This does not only apply to human diseases. This applies to animals and it applies to the "health of the planet".

Cash is on its way out, digital pound/digital currency is on its way in, alongside a digital id.

Read into that what you will."

what utter garbage!

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"A question for OP and others...

Let’s assume this is true. That the WHO (and therefore the UN) is indeed taking over the world. What does that mean for each of us as individual people? How will our lives change as a result?

Nothing then!

With the signing of the WHO pandemic treaty, every government has given up sovereignty in decisions over the health of its people, animals and our planet when the WHO decides to call a pandemic.

The agreement is an international legally binding agreement and a "One Health" approach will be implemented.

So if the WHO decides to lockdown, an individual government/country cannot legally go against this.

If the WHO decides a certain medication or preventative treatment is to be administered to whoever they decide, an individual government/country cannot legally oppose this intervention.

This does not only apply to human diseases. This applies to animals and it applies to the "health of the planet".

Cash is on its way out, digital pound/digital currency is on its way in, alongside a digital id.

Read into that what you will."

The treaty does not even exist as yet. The potential treaty is currently under discussion with a draft proposal planned to be ready sometime next year.

Since the conteare yetvto be decided, commenting on its likely impact is a bit ahead of the game.

Nita

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

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over a year ago

If I wanted to take over the world I'd start stories about people doing weird things so that no-one would believe my plans were real..

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By *ikeybr0Man
over a year ago

Newport

"A question for OP and others...

Let’s assume this is true. That the WHO (and therefore the UN) is indeed taking over the world. What does that mean for each of us as individual people? How will our lives change as a result?

Nothing then!

With the signing of the WHO pandemic treaty, every government has given up sovereignty in decisions over the health of its people, animals and our planet when the WHO decides to call a pandemic.

The agreement is an international legally binding agreement and a "One Health" approach will be implemented.

So if the WHO decides to lockdown, an individual government/country cannot legally go against this.

If the WHO decides a certain medication or preventative treatment is to be administered to whoever they decide, an individual government/country cannot legally oppose this intervention.

This does not only apply to human diseases. This applies to animals and it applies to the "health of the planet".

Cash is on its way out, digital pound/digital currency is on its way in, alongside a digital id.

Read into that what you will.

what utter garbage!"

You sound confident it’s nonsense.

It seems fairly spot on to me.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"A question for OP and others...

Let’s assume this is true. That the WHO (and therefore the UN) is indeed taking over the world. What does that mean for each of us as individual people? How will our lives change as a result?

Nothing then!

With the signing of the WHO pandemic treaty, every government has given up sovereignty in decisions over the health of its people, animals and our planet when the WHO decides to call a pandemic.

The agreement is an international legally binding agreement and a "One Health" approach will be implemented.

So if the WHO decides to lockdown, an individual government/country cannot legally go against this.

If the WHO decides a certain medication or preventative treatment is to be administered to whoever they decide, an individual government/country cannot legally oppose this intervention.

This does not only apply to human diseases. This applies to animals and it applies to the "health of the planet".

Cash is on its way out, digital pound/digital currency is on its way in, alongside a digital id.

Read into that what you will.

what utter garbage!

You sound confident it’s nonsense.

It seems fairly spot on to me. "

Really? Given this WHO treaty thing doesn't actually exist. It's still only a concept.

Nita

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"If I wanted to take over the world I'd start stories about people doing weird things so that no-one would believe my plans were real..

Can you tell what it is yet?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"A question for OP and others...

Let’s assume this is true. That the WHO (and therefore the UN) is indeed taking over the world. What does that mean for each of us as individual people? How will our lives change as a result?

Nothing then!

With the signing of the WHO pandemic treaty, every government has given up sovereignty in decisions over the health of its people, animals and our planet when the WHO decides to call a pandemic.

The agreement is an international legally binding agreement and a "One Health" approach will be implemented.

So if the WHO decides to lockdown, an individual government/country cannot legally go against this.

If the WHO decides a certain medication or preventative treatment is to be administered to whoever they decide, an individual government/country cannot legally oppose this intervention.

This does not only apply to human diseases. This applies to animals and it applies to the "health of the planet".

Cash is on its way out, digital pound/digital currency is on its way in, alongside a digital id.

Read into that what you will."

Apart from the fact the treaty does not yet exist or has been signed, what are the ramifications if a country decides to not follow the rules? Will every other signatory declare war on them? What if it is the USA or China that decides to do their own thing?

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By *innerforthreeMan
over a year ago

London/herts

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!

Please ....not the usual do your own research to make a decision rubbish!

To accurately do your own research would require degrees in chemistry, biochemistry and probably some sort of research PhD in applied virology.

What it actually boils down to is trust.

And what the shouty youtubers (because they are always shouty) and other conspiracy types are doing is breaking the trust we have in our public health services, accidentally helped by some spectacularly incompetent politicians.

Against that you have some brilliant public servants ( and they are I've been honoured to meet Chris Whitty) trying to surf this tidal wave of sh1te to get governments to make sensible decisions.

Of course 2 generations ago our grandparents saw first hand the devasting impact of polio and measles and even small pox.

Yet in half an hour you can "do the research" on mRNA vaccines and trust a bloke on the internet with no more qualifications than you, who swears blind that it changes your DNA and its all a plot to control you.....

But yes...do your own research.....

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By *loscouplegl3Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!

Please ....not the usual do your own research to make a decision rubbish!

To accurately do your own research would require degrees in chemistry, biochemistry and probably some sort of research PhD in applied virology.

What it actually boils down to is trust.

Against that you have some brilliant public servants ( and they are I've been honoured to meet Chris Whitty) trying to surf this tidal wave of sh1te to get governments to make sensible decisions.

Of course 2 generations ago our grandparents saw first hand the devasting impact of polio and measles and even small pox.

But yes...do your own research..... "

Well said

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!

Please ....not the usual do your own research to make a decision rubbish!

To accurately do your own research would require degrees in chemistry, biochemistry and probably some sort of research PhD in applied virology.

What it actually boils down to is trust.

Against that you have some brilliant public servants ( and they are I've been honoured to meet Chris Whitty) trying to surf this tidal wave of sh1te to get governments to make sensible decisions.

Of course 2 generations ago our grandparents saw first hand the devasting impact of polio and measles and even small pox.

But yes...do your own research..... "

You don't need multiple degrees, you just need to be able to critique the research that is out there. A large part of my BSc was to learn how to critique research.

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By *innerforthreeMan
over a year ago

London/herts

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!

Please ....not the usual do your own research to make a decision rubbish!

To accurately do your own research would require degrees in chemistry, biochemistry and probably some sort of research PhD in applied virology.

What it actually boils down to is trust.

Against that you have some brilliant public servants ( and they are I've been honoured to meet Chris Whitty) trying to surf this tidal wave of sh1te to get governments to make sensible decisions.

Of course 2 generations ago our grandparents saw first hand the devasting impact of polio and measles and even small pox.

But yes...do your own research.....

You don't need multiple degrees, you just need to be able to critique the research that is out there. A large part of my BSc was to learn how to critique research."

Well that is stepping into the world of peer review, but the key part about a critique is the emphasis on detail....and that is not something conspiracy theorist are particularly strong on.

And in new areas of research i'd argue it's difficult to critique the research as someone who doesn't actually understand the area other than in very general terms.....

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!

Please ....not the usual do your own research to make a decision rubbish!

To accurately do your own research would require degrees in chemistry, biochemistry and probably some sort of research PhD in applied virology.

What it actually boils down to is trust.

Against that you have some brilliant public servants ( and they are I've been honoured to meet Chris Whitty) trying to surf this tidal wave of sh1te to get governments to make sensible decisions.

Of course 2 generations ago our grandparents saw first hand the devasting impact of polio and measles and even small pox.

But yes...do your own research..... "

I'm increasingly of the view that English is fragmenting into dialects based on ideological differences.

In my dialect, "research" means in depth analysis of relevant material, cross checked against other relevant material of an appropriate intellectual rigour, using the established norms of critical thinking, etc.

In another dialect, it would seem "do your own research" means "go on this virus laden screechy website and agree with what it says" or "scroll memes in the dumbest parts of Facebook". (And critical thinking means oppositional defiance for grown ups)

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!

Please ....not the usual do your own research to make a decision rubbish!

To accurately do your own research would require degrees in chemistry, biochemistry and probably some sort of research PhD in applied virology.

What it actually boils down to is trust.

Against that you have some brilliant public servants ( and they are I've been honoured to meet Chris Whitty) trying to surf this tidal wave of sh1te to get governments to make sensible decisions.

Of course 2 generations ago our grandparents saw first hand the devasting impact of polio and measles and even small pox.

But yes...do your own research.....

You don't need multiple degrees, you just need to be able to critique the research that is out there. A large part of my BSc was to learn how to critique research.

Well that is stepping into the world of peer review, but the key part about a critique is the emphasis on detail....and that is not something conspiracy theorist are particularly strong on.

And in new areas of research i'd argue it's difficult to critique the research as someone who doesn't actually understand the area other than in very general terms....."

Please elaborate.

When you critique research you're examining for bias, looking at the methodology and other steps, you compare with other research, look at ethics. Look at discussion to see if the authors are transparent where their own research fails certain points, see their recommendations. You're looking at the quality of the research.

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By *innerforthreeMan
over a year ago

London/herts

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!

Please ....not the usual do your own research to make a decision rubbish!

To accurately do your own research would require degrees in chemistry, biochemistry and probably some sort of research PhD in applied virology.

What it actually boils down to is trust.

Against that you have some brilliant public servants ( and they are I've been honoured to meet Chris Whitty) trying to surf this tidal wave of sh1te to get governments to make sensible decisions.

Of course 2 generations ago our grandparents saw first hand the devasting impact of polio and measles and even small pox.

But yes...do your own research.....

You don't need multiple degrees, you just need to be able to critique the research that is out there. A large part of my BSc was to learn how to critique research.

Well that is stepping into the world of peer review, but the key part about a critique is the emphasis on detail....and that is not something conspiracy theorist are particularly strong on.

And in new areas of research i'd argue it's difficult to critique the research as someone who doesn't actually understand the area other than in very general terms.....

Please elaborate.

In the legal world, my equivalent of a critique would be a judicial review. Ie you are checking that due process has been followed, boxes ticked etc.

But you aren't checking the science so to speak. That's why my original point was regarding actually understanding the research. It's all well and agreeing with methodology, appropriate sample sizes etc if you haven't a clue if it works or not or have an idea of the science behind it.

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By *melie LALWoman
over a year ago

Peterborough

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!

Please ....not the usual do your own research to make a decision rubbish!

To accurately do your own research would require degrees in chemistry, biochemistry and probably some sort of research PhD in applied virology.

What it actually boils down to is trust.

Against that you have some brilliant public servants ( and they are I've been honoured to meet Chris Whitty) trying to surf this tidal wave of sh1te to get governments to make sensible decisions.

Of course 2 generations ago our grandparents saw first hand the devasting impact of polio and measles and even small pox.

But yes...do your own research.....

You don't need multiple degrees, you just need to be able to critique the research that is out there. A large part of my BSc was to learn how to critique research.

Well that is stepping into the world of peer review, but the key part about a critique is the emphasis on detail....and that is not something conspiracy theorist are particularly strong on.

And in new areas of research i'd argue it's difficult to critique the research as someone who doesn't actually understand the area other than in very general terms.....

Please elaborate.

In the legal world, my equivalent of a critique would be a judicial review. Ie you are checking that due process has been followed, boxes ticked etc.

No you're not testing the science as you're not looking into why or how something works but whether it works and how you got the results and whether (in quantitative studies) would replicating get the same results. You don't need to understand the chemical compound of dexamethasone to know it reduces swelling but research can (probably) tell you the percentage of Covid patients it helped.

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

Does everyone need to know everything about every thing?

I'm not a terrorist so it doesn't bother me.

You spy on people and there's uproar; you don't and something (terrorism) happens then there's uproar. Who would be a spook!?!

Please ....not the usual do your own research to make a decision rubbish!

To accurately do your own research would require degrees in chemistry, biochemistry and probably some sort of research PhD in applied virology.

What it actually boils down to is trust.

Against that you have some brilliant public servants ( and they are I've been honoured to meet Chris Whitty) trying to surf this tidal wave of sh1te to get governments to make sensible decisions.

Of course 2 generations ago our grandparents saw first hand the devasting impact of polio and measles and even small pox.

But yes...do your own research..... "

You don't need degrees to do your own research,that is b******s and an insult to the intelligence.What is wrong with doing your own research?are we supposed to believe everything anyone tells us?All you need is a brain and to find experts in their field who have degrees so you don't have to(as if a degree makes someone totally incapable of talking shit/lying/spinning a particular narrative),people who don't hide behind usernames,use their real identities and publish their work with references to data,research sources etc.Public health organisations and Pharma have done more to undermine trust than any crackpot,the aforementioned Asbestos,Hiv/Hep,Organophosphates,Thalidomyde,vaginal mesh implants,Pfizer fighting and losing a US court battle to keep nine pages of possible Vax side effects secret.

What were the conspiracies about measles and smallpox?none.

"What it boils down to is trust".Trust someone who says "I am an expert,I have degrees,you are just a pleb,you know nothing,you are incapable of understanding this subject,you are incapable of comparing different bodies of work,so shut up,believe and accept everything because we are oh so superior"?I wonder how far science and civilization would have advanced if scientists and others accepted without challenge everything they were told.

If you want to mock and belittle people who want to do their own research,hear other opinions(that they may with further research dismiss)that's your malfunction and reveals the arrogance that contributes to the medical/science scandals already mentioned.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I mean, at the time smallpox vaccines came out people said it'd turn the vaccinated into cows. And apparently we needed a single measles vaccine because the MMR causes autism.

But sure, there were no conspiracies.

Maybe some people are better at research than others, and some are so bad at it that derision is, in fact, appropriate?

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

"Yes, who are doing a global digital health certification network, it seem to be about more control doesnt it?

Exactly Shag.

Once established, this removal of freedom will be impossible to get back.

And it's not like anyone will get to vote on it.

People may mock my points, however, the WHO are doing it for a reason, and are confident of it being taken up. "
Yes, it will be hard to get back, once it is established as well.

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By *innerforthreeMan
over a year ago

London/herts

Yes but (thread got too long) for those "doing their own research" you'd probably want to know what dexamethasone does, and the side effects (pretty nasty, given it's a regular treatment for those undergoing cancer treatment to reduce pain from chemo).

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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"I mean, at the time smallpox vaccines came out people said it'd turn the vaccinated into cows. And apparently we needed a single measles vaccine because the MMR causes autism.

But sure, there were no conspiracies.

Maybe some people are better at research than others, and some are so bad at it that derision is, in fact, appropriate?"

The claim about smallpox was not a conspiracy,it was not backed up by anything or anyone,it was a story the same as "if you travel faster than a horse can run you will explode".The post did not mention MMR-Autism(discredited).If you want to interpret replying to points raised in a post with the same vigour they were made as derision then so be it,a post which derided anyone doing their own research by the way.Some people live their lives in terror of what someone else might say.When you stop someone from speaking you are not showing the world they are wrong or a liar,you are just showing you are afraid of what they might say.Hear what people have to say then make up your own mind.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Yes but (thread got too long) for those "doing their own research" you'd probably want to know what dexamethasone does, and the side effects (pretty nasty, given it's a regular treatment for those undergoing cancer treatment to reduce pain from chemo). "

I'd start with people knowing what "research" actually means and having half a clue how it's done.

That alone would solve a lot of problems

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