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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0" Um... what do you think that actually proves? | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves?" It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off  | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off "Gosh that's a long reply. Summed up: wear a clean mask & don't fuck around with it. You know, you can easily read up on the benefits of masks v Covid via a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc. Or you could just go for some person on youtube, I guess. As you were... | |||
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"Masks also reduce the spread of colds and flu, indisputable fact. Naysayers are living in march 2020 while the rest of the world moved on. " Ah but you're failing to take into account youtube people who can turn on a camera. | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off "Absolutely agree, that's 100% accurate if you want to reduce YOUR risk of becoming infected. However Even a dirty, germ infested oily rag over your face will reduce the chances of you infecting someone else if you have COVID / cold / flu It depends whether your primary concern is looking after number 1 or you actually care about others. | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Gosh that's a long reply. Summed up: wear a clean mask & don't fuck around with it.
You know, you can easily read up on the benefits of masks v Covid via a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc. Or you could just go for some person on youtube, I guess. As you were..."I love how you avoided my question - have you or have you not followed every single step religiously and observed other people follow all of those steps ? Do you see many people walking around with boxes of clean masks in their hands or do you see people pull one out of their back pocket? How many people around you did you see wash their hands after giving their face a good scratch because their mask is too itchy? 
Love how you jumped onto discrediting the video because it's on YouTube. If the same video was on WHO website or on gov.uk would it make you suddenly believe that cross contamination is a real thing or do you need further proof?
If so - basic level 2 and level 3 food safety training course will provide you with everything you need to know about cross contamination  | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Absolutely agree, that's 100% accurate if you want to reduce YOUR risk of becoming infected.
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Even a dirty, germ infested oily rag over your face will reduce the chances of you infecting someone else if you have COVID / cold / flu
It depends whether your primary concern is looking after number 1 or you actually care about others.
"Nope. It won't because you still touch things with your hands and the more you touch your dirty, itchy mask the more germs you get onto your hands and the more you pass them on. | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Gosh that's a long reply. Summed up: wear a clean mask & don't fuck around with it.
You know, you can easily read up on the benefits of masks v Covid via a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc. Or you could just go for some person on youtube, I guess. As you were...
I love how you avoided my question - have you or have you not followed every single step religiously and observed other people follow all of those steps ?
Do you see many people walking around with boxes of clean masks in their hands or do you see people pull one out of their back pocket?
How many people around you did you see wash their hands after giving their face a good scratch because their mask is too itchy?
Love how you jumped onto discrediting the video because it's on YouTube. If the same video was on WHO website or on gov.uk would it make you suddenly believe that cross contamination is a real thing or do you need further proof?
If so - basic level 2 and level 3 food safety training course will provide you with everything you need to know about cross contamination "Well you've convinced me with your confused rant. I'm off to burn my masks & build some sort of Wicker Man. Why not, I guess? | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Gosh that's a long reply. Summed up: wear a clean mask & don't fuck around with it.
You know, you can easily read up on the benefits of masks v Covid via a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc. Or you could just go for some person on youtube, I guess. As you were...
I love how you avoided my question - have you or have you not followed every single step religiously and observed other people follow all of those steps ?
Do you see many people walking around with boxes of clean masks in their hands or do you see people pull one out of their back pocket?
How many people around you did you see wash their hands after giving their face a good scratch because their mask is too itchy?
Love how you jumped onto discrediting the video because it's on YouTube. If the same video was on WHO website or on gov.uk would it make you suddenly believe that cross contamination is a real thing or do you need further proof?
If so - basic level 2 and level 3 food safety training course will provide you with everything you need to know about cross contamination
Well you've convinced me with your confused rant. I'm off to burn my masks & build some sort of Wicker Man. Why not, I guess?"You still haven't answered my question! How convenient | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Gosh that's a long reply. Summed up: wear a clean mask & don't fuck around with it.
You know, you can easily read up on the benefits of masks v Covid via a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc. Or you could just go for some person on youtube, I guess. As you were...
I love how you avoided my question - have you or have you not followed every single step religiously and observed other people follow all of those steps ?
Do you see many people walking around with boxes of clean masks in their hands or do you see people pull one out of their back pocket?
How many people around you did you see wash their hands after giving their face a good scratch because their mask is too itchy?
Love how you jumped onto discrediting the video because it's on YouTube. If the same video was on WHO website or on gov.uk would it make you suddenly believe that cross contamination is a real thing or do you need further proof?
If so - basic level 2 and level 3 food safety training course will provide you with everything you need to know about cross contamination
Well you've convinced me with your confused rant. I'm off to burn my masks & build some sort of Wicker Man. Why not, I guess?
You still haven't answered my question!
How convenient "Yup everything's a conspiracy. I'm on your side now. What should I put in my Wicker Man? A pile of masks? Or some sort of effigy wearing a minimask? | |||
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. " Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.) | |||
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.)" You still haven't answered my question. Do you or do you not religiously follow the correct steps of mask wearing? I've looked at all of those years ago, done my homework, thanks. And it would be correct and 100% accurate if all people would follow the correct steps. But they don't. They never have and never will. One or two might pop up here and act all uppity and claim they have never wore the same mask twice or pulled one out of their pocket or thar they wash their hands every single time they touch their face, but that is all... one or two people, most don't even know how to use them for them to be effective. So, for the last time, will you answer my question - have you or have you not diligently followed all the correct steps every single time you wore a mask? (Shouldn't be so hard to answer... I mean it's you who advocated so hard for them in the original post) | |||
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.) You still haven't answered my question. Do you or do you not religiously follow the correct steps of mask wearing? I've looked at all of those years ago, done my homework, thanks. And it would be correct and 100% accurate if all people would follow the correct steps. But they don't. They never have and never will. One or two might pop up here and act all uppity and claim they have never wore the same mask twice or pulled one out of their pocket or thar they wash their hands every single time they touch their face, but that is all... one or two people, most don't even know how to use them for them to be effective. So, for the last time, will you answer my question - have you or have you not diligently followed all the correct steps every single time you wore a mask? (Shouldn't be so hard to answer... I mean it's you who advocated so hard for them in the original post) " Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo! | |||
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"Masks help reduce the spread of Covid. It's simply a fact. The evidence is overwhelming & easy to find online via trusted medical sources. They're also cheap, safe & easy to use for the vast majority. And yet I know saying these things will result in confused anger from some. Why? When did we become so averse to science & reality?" Do you think their efficacy is very dependent on situation, environment, context? Dragging a manky old mask out of your handbag, applying it with your filthy hands for the 10 steps you'll take with it on. Sneezing into it and then putting it back in your handbag ready to repeat may produce variable results? That possibly have not yet produced "scientific" evidence for? | |||
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.) You still haven't answered my question. Do you or do you not religiously follow the correct steps of mask wearing? I've looked at all of those years ago, done my homework, thanks. And it would be correct and 100% accurate if all people would follow the correct steps. But they don't. They never have and never will. One or two might pop up here and act all uppity and claim they have never wore the same mask twice or pulled one out of their pocket or thar they wash their hands every single time they touch their face, but that is all... one or two people, most don't even know how to use them for them to be effective. So, for the last time, will you answer my question - have you or have you not diligently followed all the correct steps every single time you wore a mask? (Shouldn't be so hard to answer... I mean it's you who advocated so hard for them in the original post) " I wouldn’t waste your time with these virtue signalling twats you know the type- I’ve been fully vaccinated status’s on their social media followed by the Ukrainian flag etc..- We all know that mask wearing does absolutely bugger all.  | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Absolutely agree, that's 100% accurate if you want to reduce YOUR risk of becoming infected.
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Even a dirty, germ infested oily rag over your face will reduce the chances of you infecting someone else if you have COVID / cold / flu
It depends whether your primary concern is looking after number 1 or you actually care about others.
Nope. It won't because you still touch things with your hands and the more you touch your dirty, itchy mask the more germs you get onto your hands and the more you pass them on.
"You seem hell bent on trying to disprove science. I don't get why your so concerned with people trying to stop passing on viruses to you ? Should we abandon condoms ? They're not 100% effective and if you get sperm in your hands then you never know where it will end up .. | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Absolutely agree, that's 100% accurate if you want to reduce YOUR risk of becoming infected.
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Even a dirty, germ infested oily rag over your face will reduce the chances of you infecting someone else if you have COVID / cold / flu
It depends whether your primary concern is looking after number 1 or you actually care about others.
Nope. It won't because you still touch things with your hands and the more you touch your dirty, itchy mask the more germs you get onto your hands and the more you pass them on.
You seem hell bent on trying to disprove science. I don't get why your so concerned with people trying to stop passing on viruses to you ?
Should we abandon condoms ? They're not 100% effective and if you get sperm in your hands then you never know where it will end up .."You must be 1 of them sciencers. Booo science! I won't have so sciencers trying to help keep me healthy! | |||
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" Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo!" So you never ever ever put the same mask on when you were eating out to help out and had to use the loo? Do you carry a box of fresh masks and a sanitizer just in case your nose gets itchy (granted don't need a sanitizer as much as most places offer it anyway) with you everywhere you go? Do you carry a zip lock baggy for used masks (in case there is no bin where you decided to take it off)? How many masks would you use a day (knowing that you must put on a fresh mask every time you take one off to take a sip of water or eat something)? | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Absolutely agree, that's 100% accurate if you want to reduce YOUR risk of becoming infected.
However
Even a dirty, germ infested oily rag over your face will reduce the chances of you infecting someone else if you have COVID / cold / flu
It depends whether your primary concern is looking after number 1 or you actually care about others.
Nope. It won't because you still touch things with your hands and the more you touch your dirty, itchy mask the more germs you get onto your hands and the more you pass them on.
You seem hell bent on trying to disprove science. I don't get why your so concerned with people trying to stop passing on viruses to you ?
Should we abandon condoms ? They're not 100% effective and if you get sperm in your hands then you never know where it will end up ..
You must be 1 of them sciencers. Booo science! I won't have so sciencers trying to help keep me healthy!"Well that passed 10mins, I'm off to watch some paint dry. Back tomorrow  | |||
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Absolutely agree, that's 100% accurate if you want to reduce YOUR risk of becoming infected.
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Even a dirty, germ infested oily rag over your face will reduce the chances of you infecting someone else if you have COVID / cold / flu
It depends whether your primary concern is looking after number 1 or you actually care about others.
Nope. It won't because you still touch things with your hands and the more you touch your dirty, itchy mask the more germs you get onto your hands and the more you pass them on.
You seem hell bent on trying to disprove science. I don't get why your so concerned with people trying to stop passing on viruses to you ?
Should we abandon condoms ? They're not 100% effective and if you get sperm in your hands then you never know where it will end up .."Not sure what used condoms have to do with mask efficacy but I don't see it as disproving science. More as proving science. That efficacy is strongly effected by the procedure, the Conditions, the environment etc. Now is there's been a scientific study into real world use of masks it would be great to see the outcomes of that. Like many of these debates there are way too many agendas. If a clean mask is used "properly" and disposed of properly, I don't doubt that it has an effect on germ control and management. | |||
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" Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo! So you never ever ever put the same mask on when you were eating out to help out and had to use the loo? Do you carry a box of fresh masks and a sanitizer just in case your nose gets itchy (granted don't need a sanitizer as much as most places offer it anyway) with you everywhere you go? Do you carry a zip lock baggy for used masks (in case there is no bin where you decided to take it off)? How many masks would you use a day (knowing that you must put on a fresh mask every time you take one off to take a sip of water or eat something)? " Still digging, eh? No answer will satisfy you. Good job I'm 1000% antimasker now then. What you reckon we should put on our flag? Just a burning mask? Or something else to make it look more antiscience? How about Jesus having a teaparty with a T-rex? | |||
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"Couple things firstly are your masks N95/KN95? Secondly masks do not prevent the spread or prevent anyone from catching it they only reduce the chance! Personally I dont wear one." I could say read the title of the thread & the 1st post. But I'm an antimasker now, so no need. down with all masks, I say! (Also, down with knickers!) | |||
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" You seem hell bent on trying to disprove science. I don't get why your so concerned with people trying to stop passing on viruses to you ? Should we abandon condoms ? They're not 100% effective and if you get sperm in your hands then you never know where it will end up .." Absolutely not! I'm not trying to disprove anything, I've actually said in comments above that if everyone followed correct steps it would be somewhat beneficial. But people don't. The scientific fact that is currently mentioned in this thread doesn't paint a full and realistic (emphasis on realistic) picture. Cross contamination is a real thing, just because they don't show it on tv doesn't mean that people aren't taught to practice certain steps to avoid it. You know what is the absolute best practice to avoid spreading viruses? Staying at home when you're unwell. Like I currently have the flu which was passed on to me by someone who didn't stay at home when they knew they weren't well. No, I do not believe for a second that them wearing a mask would have made a button of a difference - wear fifty masks if you want, but on a night out you'll be fidgeting with them and pulling them up and down and touching your face then touching everything around you anyway... You know what I'm doing not to spread my flu? Laying in bed, arguing with online strangers on a virus forum as this seems the only time I have spare time
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.) You still haven't answered my question. Do you or do you not religiously follow the correct steps of mask wearing? I've looked at all of those years ago, done my homework, thanks. And it would be correct and 100% accurate if all people would follow the correct steps. But they don't. They never have and never will. One or two might pop up here and act all uppity and claim they have never wore the same mask twice or pulled one out of their pocket or thar they wash their hands every single time they touch their face, but that is all... one or two people, most don't even know how to use them for them to be effective. So, for the last time, will you answer my question - have you or have you not diligently followed all the correct steps every single time you wore a mask? (Shouldn't be so hard to answer... I mean it's you who advocated so hard for them in the original post) I wouldn’t waste your time with these virtue signalling twats you know the type- I’ve been fully vaccinated status’s on their social media followed by the Ukrainian flag etc..- We all know that mask wearing does absolutely bugger all. "That's not what the evidence supports though. | |||
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.) You still haven't answered my question. Do you or do you not religiously follow the correct steps of mask wearing? I've looked at all of those years ago, done my homework, thanks. And it would be correct and 100% accurate if all people would follow the correct steps. But they don't. They never have and never will. One or two might pop up here and act all uppity and claim they have never wore the same mask twice or pulled one out of their pocket or thar they wash their hands every single time they touch their face, but that is all... one or two people, most don't even know how to use them for them to be effective. So, for the last time, will you answer my question - have you or have you not diligently followed all the correct steps every single time you wore a mask? (Shouldn't be so hard to answer... I mean it's you who advocated so hard for them in the original post) I wouldn’t waste your time with these virtue signalling twats you know the type- I’ve been fully vaccinated status’s on their social media followed by the Ukrainian flag etc..- We all know that mask wearing does absolutely bugger all.
That's not what the evidence supports though. "Boo evidence! Boo science! Boo reality! I'm waving my antimasker flag at the screen now. I just made it. I went with an image of Jesus setting fire to a mask with a flamethrower while giving the finger to the NHS. | |||
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" Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo! So you never ever ever put the same mask on when you were eating out to help out and had to use the loo? Do you carry a box of fresh masks and a sanitizer just in case your nose gets itchy (granted don't need a sanitizer as much as most places offer it anyway) with you everywhere you go? Do you carry a zip lock baggy for used masks (in case there is no bin where you decided to take it off)? How many masks would you use a day (knowing that you must put on a fresh mask every time you take one off to take a sip of water or eat something)? Still digging, eh? No answer will satisfy you. Good job I'm 1000% antimasker now then. What you reckon we should put on our flag? Just a burning mask? Or something else to make it look more antiscience? How about Jesus having a teaparty with a T-rex? " Your answer wasn't realistic, I need realistic peer reviewed data on how masks actually work in real world + involved costs (many masks a day cost some penny) + time and energy it requires to correctly follow procedures. | |||
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"Couple things firstly are your masks N95/KN95? Secondly masks do not prevent the spread or prevent anyone from catching it they only reduce the chance! Personally I dont wear one." I think people who are in the "no they don't work" camp forget this bit of masks reduce the chance of getting an infection. I thought that was the exact point of wearing them | |||
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" Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo! So you never ever ever put the same mask on when you were eating out to help out and had to use the loo? Do you carry a box of fresh masks and a sanitizer just in case your nose gets itchy (granted don't need a sanitizer as much as most places offer it anyway) with you everywhere you go? Do you carry a zip lock baggy for used masks (in case there is no bin where you decided to take it off)? How many masks would you use a day (knowing that you must put on a fresh mask every time you take one off to take a sip of water or eat something)? Still digging, eh? No answer will satisfy you. Good job I'm 1000% antimasker now then. What you reckon we should put on our flag? Just a burning mask? Or something else to make it look more antiscience? How about Jesus having a teaparty with a T-rex? Your answer wasn't realistic, I need realistic peer reviewed data on how masks actually work in real world + involved costs (many masks a day cost some penny) + time and energy it requires to correctly follow procedures. " I did start the thread with simple facts + an invitation to look at trusted medical sources. Studies show over and over that masks help. But I'm so glad certain people were unswayed by that & they won me over. Being an antimasker is so much more liberating. Freedom! Freedom from facts & science & reality too! Perfect! | |||
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" Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo! So you never ever ever put the same mask on when you were eating out to help out and had to use the loo? Do you carry a box of fresh masks and a sanitizer just in case your nose gets itchy (granted don't need a sanitizer as much as most places offer it anyway) with you everywhere you go? Do you carry a zip lock baggy for used masks (in case there is no bin where you decided to take it off)? How many masks would you use a day (knowing that you must put on a fresh mask every time you take one off to take a sip of water or eat something)? Still digging, eh? No answer will satisfy you. Good job I'm 1000% antimasker now then. What you reckon we should put on our flag? Just a burning mask? Or something else to make it look more antiscience? How about Jesus having a teaparty with a T-rex? Your answer wasn't realistic, I need realistic peer reviewed data on how masks actually work in real world + involved costs (many masks a day cost some penny) + time and energy it requires to correctly follow procedures. I did start the thread with simple facts + an invitation to look at trusted medical sources. Studies show over and over that masks help. But I'm so glad certain people were unswayed by that & they won me over. Being an antimasker is so much more liberating. Freedom! Freedom from facts & science & reality too! Perfect!" Yoda says: “Strong with this one, is the sarcasm” | |||
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Absolutely agree, that's 100% accurate if you want to reduce YOUR risk of becoming infected.
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Even a dirty, germ infested oily rag over your face will reduce the chances of you infecting someone else if you have COVID / cold / flu
It depends whether your primary concern is looking after number 1 or you actually care about others.
Nope. It won't because you still touch things with your hands and the more you touch your dirty, itchy mask the more germs you get onto your hands and the more you pass them on.
You seem hell bent on trying to disprove science. I don't get why your so concerned with people trying to stop passing on viruses to you ?
Should we abandon condoms ? They're not 100% effective and if you get sperm in your hands then you never know where it will end up .."The Nirvana fallacy has been liberally applied to both vaccination and masks during the pandemic. If it's not 110% perfect then it's useless or harmful. Ok, Karen, whatever. | |||
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" Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo! So you never ever ever put the same mask on when you were eating out to help out and had to use the loo? Do you carry a box of fresh masks and a sanitizer just in case your nose gets itchy (granted don't need a sanitizer as much as most places offer it anyway) with you everywhere you go? Do you carry a zip lock baggy for used masks (in case there is no bin where you decided to take it off)? How many masks would you use a day (knowing that you must put on a fresh mask every time you take one off to take a sip of water or eat something)? Still digging, eh? No answer will satisfy you. Good job I'm 1000% antimasker now then. What you reckon we should put on our flag? Just a burning mask? Or something else to make it look more antiscience? How about Jesus having a teaparty with a T-rex? Your answer wasn't realistic, I need realistic peer reviewed data on how masks actually work in real world + involved costs (many masks a day cost some penny) + time and energy it requires to correctly follow procedures. " Nobody would wear a mask full time, in fact the only time I've worn one recently was in public transport in Gran Canaria because it's compulsory .. of course I could have claimed I'm exempt and refused to wear one or argued that they are a waste of time but no, I just put it on. I'm not a big fan of them but I'm not going to argue with science. To those that say they are useless, I'm assuming you cover your mouth and nose with your hand or a handkerchief when you sneeze or cough ? It seems to be a recognised international thing ? Maybe using a hand is more effective than a mask .... Anyway T break over time to watch that paint. | |||
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" Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo! So you never ever ever put the same mask on when you were eating out to help out and had to use the loo? Do you carry a box of fresh masks and a sanitizer just in case your nose gets itchy (granted don't need a sanitizer as much as most places offer it anyway) with you everywhere you go? Do you carry a zip lock baggy for used masks (in case there is no bin where you decided to take it off)? How many masks would you use a day (knowing that you must put on a fresh mask every time you take one off to take a sip of water or eat something)? Still digging, eh? No answer will satisfy you. Good job I'm 1000% antimasker now then. What you reckon we should put on our flag? Just a burning mask? Or something else to make it look more antiscience? How about Jesus having a teaparty with a T-rex? Your answer wasn't realistic, I need realistic peer reviewed data on how masks actually work in real world + involved costs (many masks a day cost some penny) + time and energy it requires to correctly follow procedures. Nobody would wear a mask full time, in fact the only time I've worn one recently was in public transport in Gran Canaria because it's compulsory .. of course I could have claimed I'm exempt and refused to wear one or argued that they are a waste of time but no, I just put it on. I'm not a big fan of them but I'm not going to argue with science. To those that say they are useless, I'm assuming you cover your mouth and nose with your hand or a handkerchief when you sneeze or cough ? It seems to be a recognised international thing ? Maybe using a hand is more effective than a mask .... Anyway T break over time to watch that paint." Erm. Yes, people were forced to wear face masks full time- ever worked a physically challenging 14h+ shift with a face mask on? Or spent 3h+ in a freezer with a mask on with condensation from your breath running back into your mouth? I have. A full year spent with it on - it was gross. Many many people who worked jobs where masks were compulsory have been wearing masks full time. Very few of them wore them correctly. About sneezing and coughing: I never ever cover my mouth with my hands when I sneeze or cough because I know ill be using them hands to touch things. I sneeze and cough into my elbow, just the way I was taught years before covid. And no, I never ever done those stupid elbow bumps. | |||
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"2020 was great. Ugly people had their faces covered up! " I especially liked the bit where most people actually respected one another's personal space for a change. It was really nice to be able to move around with out worrying about catching some bellend standing right up my arse with a stray elbow. | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Absolutely agree, that's 100% accurate if you want to reduce YOUR risk of becoming infected.
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Even a dirty, germ infested oily rag over your face will reduce the chances of you infecting someone else if you have COVID / cold / flu
It depends whether your primary concern is looking after number 1 or you actually care about others.
Nope. It won't because you still touch things with your hands and the more you touch your dirty, itchy mask the more germs you get onto your hands and the more you pass them on.
You seem hell bent on trying to disprove science. I don't get why your so concerned with people trying to stop passing on viruses to you ?
Should we abandon condoms ? They're not 100% effective and if you get sperm in your hands then you never know where it will end up ..
The Nirvana fallacy has been liberally applied to both vaccination and masks during the pandemic. If it's not 110% perfect then it's useless or harmful.
Ok, Karen, whatever."I posted a thread about the perfect solution fallacy over a year ago. It was completely ignored, of course. | |||
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"2020 was great. Ugly people had their faces covered up! I especially liked the bit where most people actually respected one another's personal space for a change. It was really nice to be able to move around with out worrying about catching some bellend standing right up my arse with a stray elbow. Down with respecting others! Freedom!" I will NOT surrender my right to convince myself I'm making the queue in the post office move infinitesimally faster by standing six inches away from the person in front of me and right in their blind spot OUCH MY FACE | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Absolutely agree, that's 100% accurate if you want to reduce YOUR risk of becoming infected.
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Even a dirty, germ infested oily rag over your face will reduce the chances of you infecting someone else if you have COVID / cold / flu
It depends whether your primary concern is looking after number 1 or you actually care about others.
Nope. It won't because you still touch things with your hands and the more you touch your dirty, itchy mask the more germs you get onto your hands and the more you pass them on.
You seem hell bent on trying to disprove science. I don't get why your so concerned with people trying to stop passing on viruses to you ?
Should we abandon condoms ? They're not 100% effective and if you get sperm in your hands then you never know where it will end up ..
The Nirvana fallacy has been liberally applied to both vaccination and masks during the pandemic. If it's not 110% perfect then it's useless or harmful.
Ok, Karen, whatever.
I posted a thread about the perfect solution fallacy over a year ago.
It was completely ignored, of course."It's self-evident, of course. It does go both ways. If someone who does all the right things (according to their doctrine) dies, they obviously secretly looked at a packet of crisps, thus invalidating all the pure natural health. | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0" Here's a much more relevant video https://youtu.be/0Tp0zB904Mc | |||
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" The wearing of masks is more of a renforcement issue ?? as in if you wear a mask and so remember to do various other stuff unrelated to the wearing of masks ?? " A blue Peter.. "I do stuff right" badge? Yeah some truth in that for some..... Maybe | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Here's a much more relevant video https://youtu.be/0Tp0zB904Mc" Ew YouTube conspiracies. Is that where you get your education from? Next thing you'll be posting links from Facebook academy! | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Here's a much more relevant video https://youtu.be/0Tp0zB904Mc Ew YouTube conspiracies. Is that where you get your education from? Next thing you'll be posting links from Facebook academy! "So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable? I'm not sure that's how source analysis works. | |||
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"I've had all sorts of private interesting messages learning me good all about Covid n masks n shit. I'm more convinced than ever it makes total sense to be an antimasker. I'm off to look into this flat Earth stuff now. It sounds totally legit too. " Do they store the bleach and magic medicines that work against parasites and Covid under the earth? (I'm picturing like under the bed. Dust bunnies, ivermectin, and a bottle of Domestos) | |||
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"I've had all sorts of private interesting messages learning me good all about Covid n masks n shit. I'm more convinced than ever it makes total sense to be an antimasker. I'm off to look into this flat Earth stuff now. It sounds totally legit too. Do they store the bleach and magic medicines that work against parasites and Covid under the earth? (I'm picturing like under the bed. Dust bunnies, ivermectin, and a bottle of Domestos)" Sounds plausible! I gotta look into it! | |||
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"I've had all sorts of private interesting messages learning me good all about Covid n masks n shit. I'm more convinced than ever it makes total sense to be an antimasker. I'm off to look into this flat Earth stuff now. It sounds totally legit too. Do they store the bleach and magic medicines that work against parasites and Covid under the earth? (I'm picturing like under the bed. Dust bunnies, ivermectin, and a bottle of Domestos) Sounds plausible! I gotta look into it!" Teach the conspiracy, Magellan was a heretic | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Here's a much more relevant video https://youtu.be/0Tp0zB904Mc Ew YouTube conspiracies. Is that where you get your education from? Next thing you'll be posting links from Facebook academy!
So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works."My comment was intended to point out the ridiculous hypocricity of anyone openly ridiculing those who occasionally share YouTube videos for demonstration purposes (often with very credible sources and people). Thank you for getting lost in my sarcasm - you just proved my point  | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Here's a much more relevant video https://youtu.be/0Tp0zB904Mc Ew YouTube conspiracies. Is that where you get your education from? Next thing you'll be posting links from Facebook academy!
So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works.
My comment was intended to point out the ridiculous hypocricity of anyone openly ridiculing those who occasionally share YouTube videos for demonstration purposes (often with very credible sources and people).
Thank you for getting lost in my sarcasm - you just proved my point "Sure. The only measurement of a reliable source is the platform it's on. Information can't be independently validated. YouTube is always lunacy and papers are always beyond reproach. Sometimes people who know things are in YouTube videos. If you think you've made a point, your local primary school might have pertinent lessons for you on knowing what sources to trust and internet safety. | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Here's a much more relevant video https://youtu.be/0Tp0zB904Mc Ew YouTube conspiracies. Is that where you get your education from? Next thing you'll be posting links from Facebook academy!
So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works."My YouTube is more righter than your YouTube. Ner ner ne ner ner. Person 1 suggests researching recognised accredited source for research. Person 2 says that bollocks, I've done my research, here's a YouTube video that proves your actual science is wrong. What a time to be alive. Winston | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Here's a much more relevant video https://youtu.be/0Tp0zB904Mc Ew YouTube conspiracies. Is that where you get your education from? Next thing you'll be posting links from Facebook academy!
So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works.
My YouTube is more righter than your YouTube.
Ner ner ne ner ner.
Person 1 suggests researching recognised accredited source for research.
Person 2 says that bollocks, I've done my research, here's a YouTube video that proves your actual science is wrong.
What a time to be alive.
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So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works.
My YouTube is more righter than your YouTube.
Ner ner ne ner ner.
Person 1 suggests researching recognised accredited source for research.
Person 2 says that bollocks, I've done my research, here's a YouTube video that proves your actual science is wrong.
What a time to be alive.
Winston
My dad can beat up your dad. Therefore my argument about physics trumps yours.
Who needs experts innit"Experts sounds sucpiciously like HEXperts. They must be secret witches. Can't trust em! Boo experts! Yay ignorance! | |||
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So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works.
My YouTube is more righter than your YouTube.
Ner ner ne ner ner.
Person 1 suggests researching recognised accredited source for research.
Person 2 says that bollocks, I've done my research, here's a YouTube video that proves your actual science is wrong.
What a time to be alive.
Winston
My dad can beat up your dad. Therefore my argument about physics trumps yours.
Who needs experts innit
Experts sounds sucpiciously like HEXperts. They must be secret witches. Can't trust em! Boo experts! Yay ignorance!"Good fishing by the way | |||
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So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works.
My YouTube is more righter than your YouTube.
Ner ner ne ner ner.
Person 1 suggests researching recognised accredited source for research.
Person 2 says that bollocks, I've done my research, here's a YouTube video that proves your actual science is wrong.
What a time to be alive.
Winston
My dad can beat up your dad. Therefore my argument about physics trumps yours.
Who needs experts innit"° She forgot to put a full stop at the end again. ^ | |||
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"Thing is. Isn't/wasn't YouTube used by schools and universities to teach science (amongst other subjects) especially during lockdown. " Nope, not according to a friend who's a lecturer. They did lecture remotely via zoom, though. | |||
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"Thing is. Isn't/wasn't YouTube used by schools and universities to teach science (amongst other subjects) especially during lockdown. " Yes, indeed. Many university lectures continue to be put on YouTube. YouTube - neutral. Anyone can post there. Who is posting, what are their credentials? Are they relevant to this area, do they have a good reputation? What are they arguing? Is it plausible given what we already know? (I'm not talking about confirming beliefs, I'm talking about bouncing off things we know for sure) Does it align with the current consensus? Does it make sense given surrounding research where there is consensus? How are they arguing? Do they use fallacies? Do their arguments follow? Are they using sources reliably? Are they using manipulative techniques to persuade an audience? None of these are enough on their own, and all of them can be overcome. But this is a shorthand way of figuring this stuff out. | |||
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"Masks help reduce the spread of Covid. It's simply a fact. The evidence is overwhelming & easy to find online via trusted medical sources. They're also cheap, safe & easy to use for the vast majority. And yet I know saying these things will result in confused anger from some. Why? When did we become so averse to science & reality?" Mask science has been looked at for 30+ years in medical professionals with regards to viral transmission. Cloth masks have almost 0 filtration and get damp and contaminated extremely quickly. They are basically an infection risk. Surgical masks do almost nothing. Properly fitted n95 masks do offer some degree of protection. But in the pandemic almost no one was wearing these. In fact people were told not to wear them because they generally have an exhaust valve. It was just strap any random bit of cloth to your face and off you go. It was extremely retarded. Biologically re-using the same mask over and over is like, using the same piece of toilet paper over and over and thinking it keeps you clean. | |||
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"Thing is. Isn't/wasn't YouTube used by schools and universities to teach science (amongst other subjects) especially during lockdown. " Yes, by experts in their subjects, to their students/pupils.
Trouble is, some people can't differentiate between genuine experts in their field and whackadoodles, snake oil salesmen and general hucksters.
Heartbreaking.
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"Masks help reduce the spread of Covid. It's simply a fact. The evidence is overwhelming & easy to find online via trusted medical sources. They're also cheap, safe & easy to use for the vast majority. And yet I know saying these things will result in confused anger from some. Why? When did we become so averse to science & reality? Mask science has been looked at for 30+ years in medical professionals with regards to viral transmission. Cloth masks have almost 0 filtration and get damp and contaminated extremely quickly. They are basically an infection risk. Surgical masks do almost nothing. Properly fitted n95 masks do offer some degree of protection. But in the pandemic almost no one was wearing these. In fact people were told not to wear them because they generally have an exhaust valve. It was just strap any random bit of cloth to your face and off you go. It was extremely retarded. Biologically re-using the same mask over and over is like, using the same piece of toilet paper over and over and thinking it keeps you clean." Example of a fallacy: strawman People do things that are beneath the ideal, therefore we should chuck the whole thing out. | |||
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"Masks help reduce the spread of Covid. It's simply a fact. The evidence is overwhelming & easy to find online via trusted medical sources. They're also cheap, safe & easy to use for the vast majority. And yet I know saying these things will result in confused anger from some. Why? When did we become so averse to science & reality? Mask science has been looked at for 30+ years in medical professionals with regards to viral transmission. Cloth masks have almost 0 filtration and get damp and contaminated extremely quickly. They are basically an infection risk. Surgical masks do almost nothing. Properly fitted n95 masks do offer some degree of protection. But in the pandemic almost no one was wearing these. In fact people were told not to wear them because they generally have an exhaust valve. It was just strap any random bit of cloth to your face and off you go. It was extremely retarded. Biologically re-using the same mask over and over is like, using the same piece of toilet paper over and over and thinking it keeps you clean." They do indeed get damp quickly. If you're a drooler..... Everything else you've said has been disproved over and over again on these very forums. Winston Winston | |||
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"Masks help reduce the spread of Covid. It's simply a fact. The evidence is overwhelming & easy to find online via trusted medical sources. They're also cheap, safe & easy to use for the vast majority. And yet I know saying these things will result in confused anger from some. Why? When did we become so averse to science & reality? Mask science has been looked at for 30+ years in medical professionals with regards to viral transmission. Cloth masks have almost 0 filtration and get damp and contaminated extremely quickly. They are basically an infection risk. Surgical masks do almost nothing. Properly fitted n95 masks do offer some degree of protection. But in the pandemic almost no one was wearing these. In fact people were told not to wear them because they generally have an exhaust valve. It was just strap any random bit of cloth to your face and off you go. It was extremely retarded. Biologically re-using the same mask over and over is like, using the same piece of toilet paper over and over and thinking it keeps you clean. . Example of a fallacy: strawman People do things that are beneath the ideal, therefore we should chuck the whole thing out." ° She's looking for a false cock. ^ It's a phallus'y. | |||
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"Straw-man? Hardly. The only masks that have been shown statistically to work the general public were told not to wear. This is dumb. At some point you realise none of this is about science. It's about politics. Look at the country by country data for masks mandates / covid infection rates. They never made any difference. At some point normies will have to come to terms with reality, and not the fantasy bullshit sold by the media and politicians. " Ok. You do you | |||
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"Straw-man? Hardly. The only masks that have been shown statistically to work the general public were told not to wear. This is dumb. At some point you realise none of this is about science. It's about politics. Look at the country by country data for masks mandates / covid infection rates. They never made any difference. At some point normies will have to come to terms with reality, and not the fantasy bullshit sold by the media and politicians. " Healthcare dot org says: Blue surgical masks are safe and recommended for the public to wear to help prevent the spread of COVID-19. Blue surgical face masks are made with non-woven fabric, which has been shown to have better bacteria filtration and airflow than woven cloth. The material most commonly used to make these masks is polypropylene—a type of fabric made from a “thermoplastic” polymer (meaning that it’s easy to work with and shape at high temperatures). Blue surgical masks can also be made of polystyrene, polycarbonate, polyethylene, or polyester— all of which are types of fabrics derived from thermoplastic polymers. It is not common practice for surgical masks to be manufactured using formaldehyde. However, some literature as well as reports from some surgical mask manufacturers have shown that blue surgical masks might include traces of formaldehyde and bronopol. These trace impurities of formaldehyde and bronopol have led to cases of contact dermatitis; however, these cases are not common, and have particularly been documented amongst individuals who are already susceptible to this condition either due to sensitive skin, allergies, or very long-term mask wearing (such as healthcare workers). Toluene—which is a toxic liquid used in gasoline—is not used to manufacture blue surgical masks and is not known to be found in surgical masks, even in trace amounts. On the contrary, toluene has been used to test how well different antimicrobial agents can filter out carbon and other pollutants when used on masks. Most surgical face masks also do not contain polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE), the polymer that also makes Teflon, the brand name of a non-stick chemical coating commonly used on kitchen appliances such as pots and pans. If you do have a mask that contains PTFE, there is no evidence that wearing the mask would cause any flu-like symptoms or other negative outcomes when worn properly and normally. While some masks are sprayed with PTFE or have a PTFE filter, as PTFE has widely been used in the field of air filtration, it would take a mask with PTFE to 1) be heated to an extremely high temperature — 300 to 400 degrees celsius or 572 to 752 degrees Fahrenheit, 2) for fumes to be released, and 3) for those fumes to be breathed in, for any ailment to be caused. To be completely sure of the safety of a surgical mask, it helps to know where it came from (that is, to be able to see and read the box). If you are concerned about any potential allergic reactions to surgical face masks, another great option is to purchase or create your own cloth mask, as long as it is made out of cotton or linen, has at least two layers of fabric, covers your nose, and mouth, and has ear loops. Source cited. Winston | |||
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"Straw-man? Hardly. The only masks that have been shown statistically to work the general public were told not to wear. This is dumb. At some point you realise none of this is about science. It's about politics. Look at the country by country data for masks mandates / covid infection rates. They never made any difference. At some point normies will have to come to terms with reality, and not the fantasy bullshit sold by the media and politicians. " Sorry, debunked 2020 | |||
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"Masks help reduce the spread of Covid. It's simply a fact. The evidence is overwhelming & easy to find online via trusted medical sources. They're also cheap, safe & easy to use for the vast majority. And yet I know saying these things will result in confused anger from some. Why? When did we become so averse to science & reality? Mask science has been looked at for 30+ years in medical professionals with regards to viral transmission. Cloth masks have almost 0 filtration and get damp and contaminated extremely quickly. They are basically an infection risk. Surgical masks do almost nothing. Properly fitted n95 masks do offer some degree of protection. But in the pandemic almost no one was wearing these. In fact people were told not to wear them because they generally have an exhaust valve. It was just strap any random bit of cloth to your face and off you go. It was extremely retarded. Biologically re-using the same mask over and over is like, using the same piece of toilet paper over and over and thinking it keeps you clean. Again, debunked 2020" Aren't debunkers a librul conspiracy to hide the Truthiness? | |||
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"Masks help reduce the spread of Covid. It's simply a fact. The evidence is overwhelming & easy to find online via trusted medical sources. They're also cheap, safe & easy to use for the vast majority." Er, nice try, sheeple. Steve down the pub said masks do nothing except train us to be obedient. And he's down hour of research, so I know who I'm gonna believe! | |||
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"Masks help reduce the spread of Covid. It's simply a fact. The evidence is overwhelming & easy to find online via trusted medical sources. They're also cheap, safe & easy to use for the vast majority. And yet I know saying these things will result in confused anger from some. Why? When did we become so averse to science & reality? Mask science has been looked at for 30+ years in medical professionals with regards to viral transmission. Cloth masks have almost 0 filtration and get damp and contaminated extremely quickly. They are basically an infection risk. Surgical masks do almost nothing. Properly fitted n95 masks do offer some degree of protection. But in the pandemic almost no one was wearing these. In fact people were told not to wear them because they generally have an exhaust valve. It was just strap any random bit of cloth to your face and off you go. It was extremely retarded. Biologically re-using the same mask over and over is like, using the same piece of toilet paper over and over and thinking it keeps you clean. Again, debunked 2020 Aren't debunkers a librul conspiracy to hide the Truthiness?" It's where we store de-coal in de-bunker | |||
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"Thing is. Isn't/wasn't YouTube used by schools and universities to teach science (amongst other subjects) especially during lockdown. Nope, not according to a friend who's a lecturer. They did lecture remotely via zoom, though." Think it possibly depends on the course and the uni / school. I know both mine had content delivered via YouTube. | |||
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"Masks help reduce the spread of Covid. It's simply a fact. The evidence is overwhelming & easy to find online via trusted medical sources. They're also cheap, safe & easy to use for the vast majority. And yet I know saying these things will result in confused anger from some. Why? When did we become so averse to science & reality? Mask science has been looked at for 30+ years in medical professionals with regards to viral transmission. Cloth masks have almost 0 filtration and get damp and contaminated extremely quickly. They are basically an infection risk. Surgical masks do almost nothing. Properly fitted n95 masks do offer some degree of protection. But in the pandemic almost no one was wearing these. In fact people were told not to wear them because they generally have an exhaust valve. It was just strap any random bit of cloth to your face and off you go. It was extremely retarded. Biologically re-using the same mask over and over is like, using the same piece of toilet paper over and over and thinking it keeps you clean. Again, debunked 2020 Aren't debunkers a librul conspiracy to hide the Truthiness? It's where we store de-coal in de-bunker " | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Here's a much more relevant video https://youtu.be/0Tp0zB904Mc Ew YouTube conspiracies. Is that where you get your education from? Next thing you'll be posting links from Facebook academy!
So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works.
My comment was intended to point out the ridiculous hypocricity of anyone openly ridiculing those who occasionally share YouTube videos for demonstration purposes (often with very credible sources and people).
Thank you for getting lost in my sarcasm - you just proved my point "It’s hypocrisy. Hypocricity isn’t a word.  | |||
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So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works.
My comment was intended to point out the ridiculous hypocricity of anyone openly ridiculing those who occasionally share YouTube videos for demonstration purposes (often with very credible sources and people).
Thank you for getting lost in my sarcasm - you just proved my point
It’s hypocrisy.
Hypocricity isn’t a word. "How many languages are you fluent in? | |||
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So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works.
My comment was intended to point out the ridiculous hypocricity of anyone openly ridiculing those who occasionally share YouTube videos for demonstration purposes (often with very credible sources and people).
Thank you for getting lost in my sarcasm - you just proved my point
It’s hypocrisy.
Hypocricity isn’t a word.
How many languages are you fluent in? "Can't find "Hypocricity" in any online dictionary. *shrugs `\ /`
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So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works.
My comment was intended to point out the ridiculous hypocricity of anyone openly ridiculing those who occasionally share YouTube videos for demonstration purposes (often with very credible sources and people).
Thank you for getting lost in my sarcasm - you just proved my point
It’s hypocrisy.
Hypocricity isn’t a word.
How many languages are you fluent in?
Can't find "Hypocricity" in any online dictionary.
*shrugs `\/`
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"Is it possible you can give the source of some factual statistics to back this up, and not some regurgitated words? " Healthcare dot org says: Blue surgical masks are safe and recommended for the public to wear to help prevent the spread of COVID-19. Blue surgical face masks are made with non-woven fabric, which has been shown to have better bacteria filtration and airflow than woven cloth. The material most commonly used to make these masks is polypropylene—a type of fabric made from a “thermoplastic” polymer (meaning that it’s easy to work with and shape at high temperatures). Blue surgical masks can also be made of polystyrene, polycarbonate, polyethylene, or polyester— all of which are types of fabrics derived from thermoplastic polymers. It is not common practice for surgical masks to be manufactured using formaldehyde. However, some literature as well as reports from some surgical mask manufacturers have shown that blue surgical masks might include traces of formaldehyde and bronopol. These trace impurities of formaldehyde and bronopol have led to cases of contact dermatitis; however, these cases are not common, and have particularly been documented amongst individuals who are already susceptible to this condition either due to sensitive skin, allergies, or very long-term mask wearing (such as healthcare workers). Toluene—which is a toxic liquid used in gasoline—is not used to manufacture blue surgical masks and is not known to be found in surgical masks, even in trace amounts. On the contrary, toluene has been used to test how well different antimicrobial agents can filter out carbon and other pollutants when used on masks. Most surgical face masks also do not contain polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE), the polymer that also makes Teflon, the brand name of a non-stick chemical coating commonly used on kitchen appliances such as pots and pans. If you do have a mask that contains PTFE, there is no evidence that wearing the mask would cause any flu-like symptoms or other negative outcomes when worn properly and normally. While some masks are sprayed with PTFE or have a PTFE filter, as PTFE has widely been used in the field of air filtration, it would take a mask with PTFE to 1) be heated to an extremely high temperature — 300 to 400 degrees celsius or 572 to 752 degrees Fahrenheit, 2) for fumes to be released, and 3) for those fumes to be breathed in, for any ailment to be caused. To be completely sure of the safety of a surgical mask, it helps to know where it came from (that is, to be able to see and read the box). If you are concerned about any potential allergic reactions to surgical face masks, another great option is to purchase or create your own cloth mask, as long as it is made out of cotton or linen, has at least two layers of fabric, covers your nose, and mouth, and has ear loops. Source cited.
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So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works.
My comment was intended to point out the ridiculous hypocricity of anyone openly ridiculing those who occasionally share YouTube videos for demonstration purposes (often with very credible sources and people).
Thank you for getting lost in my sarcasm - you just proved my point
It’s hypocrisy.
Hypocricity isn’t a word.
How many languages are you fluent in? "English just English. | |||
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So a YouTube video on your side is fine, but one on the opposing side is laughable?
I'm not sure that's how source analysis works.
My comment was intended to point out the ridiculous hypocricity of anyone openly ridiculing those who occasionally share YouTube videos for demonstration purposes (often with very credible sources and people).
Thank you for getting lost in my sarcasm - you just proved my point
It’s hypocrisy.
Hypocricity isn’t a word.
How many languages are you fluent in?
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"There is a direct connection between mask wearing and poor mental health. " Really never heard that one.. links... explanations? I wear one a lot with work | |||
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"There is a direct connection between mask wearing and poor mental health. Really never heard that one.. links... explanations? I wear one a lot with work " I seem to remember a report suggesting correlation with refusing to wear masks and mental health issues | |||
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"There is a direct connection between mask wearing and poor mental health. " Makes sense, I had to comfort many of my staff having panic attacks and anxiety attacks throughout 2020 because they felt like they were suffocating and every time they tried to take a deep breath - the mask would get right into their mouths. And that's people who didn't have any history of trauma. Can only imagine how hard it must have been for domestic violence victims and people who have genuine ptsd and can't have anything restricting their breathing or put on their face. Yet everyone was laughing at them, calling them a baby and granny killers... Missus | |||
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"There is a direct connection between mask wearing and poor mental health. Makes sense, I had to comfort many of my staff having panic attacks and anxiety attacks throughout 2020 because they felt like they were suffocating and every time they tried to take a deep breath - the mask would get right into their mouths. And that's people who didn't have any history of trauma. Can only imagine how hard it must have been for domestic violence victims and people who have genuine ptsd and can't have anything restricting their breathing or put on their face. Yet everyone was laughing at them, calling them a baby and granny killers... Missus " Yes, there are such side effects of it and others as well. | |||
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"There is a direct connection between mask wearing and poor mental health. Really never heard that one.. links... explanations? I wear one a lot with work " You don't have problems so nobody has problems is that the logic? That aside, if you actually think about it for a second it makes sense that people who are struggling would struggle more when their faces are forced to be covered or those around them. I can see how that would increase anxieties for some folks. But yes would be helpful to see any studies on the changes that happened and their impact. | |||
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"There is a direct connection between mask wearing and poor mental health. Makes sense, I had to comfort many of my staff having panic attacks and anxiety attacks throughout 2020 because they felt like they were suffocating and every time they tried to take a deep breath - the mask would get right into their mouths. And that's people who didn't have any history of trauma. Can only imagine how hard it must have been for domestic violence victims and people who have genuine ptsd and can't have anything restricting their breathing or put on their face. Yet everyone was laughing at them, calling them a baby and granny killers... Missus " Thankfully, people who wear them for work as mandatory (not just medical professions) weren’t the people suffering these dramatic side effects. I hated wearing a mask - ruined my makeup! People with a background of DV or similar were not forced to wear one. There were some alternatives too; the lightweight Perspex type that stand away from your face. It was unpleasant and annoying but people didn’t half make a fuss. There was zero need for all these unwarranted anxiety attacks | |||
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"There is a direct connection between mask wearing and poor mental health. Makes sense, I had to comfort many of my staff having panic attacks and anxiety attacks throughout 2020 because they felt like they were suffocating and every time they tried to take a deep breath - the mask would get right into their mouths. And that's people who didn't have any history of trauma. Can only imagine how hard it must have been for domestic violence victims and people who have genuine ptsd and can't have anything restricting their breathing or put on their face. Yet everyone was laughing at them, calling them a baby and granny killers... Missus Thankfully, people who wear them for work as mandatory (not just medical professions) weren’t the people suffering these dramatic side effects. I hated wearing a mask - ruined my makeup! People with a background of DV or similar were not forced to wear one. There were some alternatives too; the lightweight Perspex type that stand away from your face. It was unpleasant and annoying but people didn’t half make a fuss. There was zero need for all these unwarranted anxiety attacks "
Another know-it-all thinks they know how someone else should feel and what should or shouldn't trigger their mental health issues.
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"There is a direct connection between mask wearing and poor mental health. Makes sense, I had to comfort many of my staff having panic attacks and anxiety attacks throughout 2020 because they felt like they were suffocating and every time they tried to take a deep breath - the mask would get right into their mouths. And that's people who didn't have any history of trauma. Can only imagine how hard it must have been for domestic violence victims and people who have genuine ptsd and can't have anything restricting their breathing or put on their face. Yet everyone was laughing at them, calling them a baby and granny killers... Missus Thankfully, people who wear them for work as mandatory (not just medical professions) weren’t the people suffering these dramatic side effects. I hated wearing a mask - ruined my makeup! People with a background of DV or similar were not forced to wear one. There were some alternatives too; the lightweight Perspex type that stand away from your face. It was unpleasant and annoying but people didn’t half make a fuss. There was zero need for all these unwarranted anxiety attacks
Another know-it-all thinks they know how someone else should feel and what should or shouldn't trigger their mental health issues.
Bet you're one of those people who plastered "be kind" all over their Facebook "Wow
Just an observation based on the types of people I encountered at the time.
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"Is it possible you can give the source of some factual statistics to back this up, and not some regurgitated words? Healthcare dot org says: Blue surgical masks are safe and recommended for the public to wear to help prevent the spread of COVID-19. Blue surgical face masks are made with non-woven fabric, which has been shown to have better bacteria filtration and airflow than woven cloth. The material most commonly used to make these masks is polypropylene—a type of fabric made from a “thermoplastic” polymer (meaning that it’s easy to work with and shape at high temperatures). Blue surgical masks can also be made of polystyrene, polycarbonate, polyethylene, or polyester— all of which are types of fabrics derived from thermoplastic polymers. It is not common practice for surgical masks to be manufactured using formaldehyde. However, some literature as well as reports from some surgical mask manufacturers have shown that blue surgical masks might include traces of formaldehyde and bronopol. These trace impurities of formaldehyde and bronopol have led to cases of contact dermatitis; however, these cases are not common, and have particularly been documented amongst individuals who are already susceptible to this condition either due to sensitive skin, allergies, or very long-term mask wearing (such as healthcare workers). Toluene—which is a toxic liquid used in gasoline—is not used to manufacture blue surgical masks and is not known to be found in surgical masks, even in trace amounts. On the contrary, toluene has been used to test how well different antimicrobial agents can filter out carbon and other pollutants when used on masks. Most surgical face masks also do not contain polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE), the polymer that also makes Teflon, the brand name of a non-stick chemical coating commonly used on kitchen appliances such as pots and pans. If you do have a mask that contains PTFE, there is no evidence that wearing the mask would cause any flu-like symptoms or other negative outcomes when worn properly and normally. While some masks are sprayed with PTFE or have a PTFE filter, as PTFE has widely been used in the field of air filtration, it would take a mask with PTFE to 1) be heated to an extremely high temperature — 300 to 400 degrees celsius or 572 to 752 degrees Fahrenheit, 2) for fumes to be released, and 3) for those fumes to be breathed in, for any ailment to be caused. To be completely sure of the safety of a surgical mask, it helps to know where it came from (that is, to be able to see and read the box). If you are concerned about any potential allergic reactions to surgical face masks, another great option is to purchase or create your own cloth mask, as long as it is made out of cotton or linen, has at least two layers of fabric, covers your nose, and mouth, and has ear loops. Source cited.
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Yet there is zero statistics in your response, you're quoting someone. "Healthcare dot org are hardly "someone"
Precis from the ONS. Take a look.
Cases prior to mask wearing - lots.
Cases after mask wearing - lots less.
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"There is a direct connection between mask wearing and poor mental health. Really never heard that one.. links... explanations? I wear one a lot with work I seem to remember a report suggesting correlation with refusing to wear masks and mental health issues " I was taking it that the suggestion was that those wearing masks had mental health issues... I'm well aware of the anxiety it caused some to wear one... | |||
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"2020 was great. Ugly people had their faces covered up! " ...........and then all and everyone who had their face covered following the 'world health organisations' rules then took an injection as an experiment which we are now awaiting/seeing the results of....... | |||
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"2020 was great. Ugly people had their faces covered up! ...........and then all and everyone who had their face covered following the 'world health organisations' rules then took an injection as an experiment which we are now awaiting/seeing the results of......." Being vaccinated wasn't a rule though. Vaccinations are recommendations. No one is (quite rightly) forced to be vaccinated. *Our World in Data; So far 68.5% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. 13.01 billion doses have been administered globally, and 2.37 million are now administered each day. Pretty good going for barely a year in, damn good results too.
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"............is this a good thing? An experiment this big and running LIVE NOW as it happens awaiting resilts we are ALL in it (68% of us anyway) I'm honestly shi*ting myself how are others feeling.........? | |||
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"2020 was great. Ugly people had their faces covered up! ...........and then all and everyone who had their face covered following the 'world health organisations' rules then took an injection as an experiment which we are now awaiting/seeing the results of....... Being vaccinated wasn't a rule though. Vaccinations are recommendations. No one is (quite rightly) forced to be vaccinated. *Our World in Data; So far 68.5% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. 13.01 billion doses have been administered globally, and 2.37 million are now administered each day. Pretty good going for barely a year in, damn good results too.
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............is this a good thing? An experiment this big and running LIVE NOW as it happens awaiting resilts we are ALL in it (68% of us anyway) I'm honestly shi*ting myself how are others feeling.........?"Fine and dandy, thanks for asking | |||
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*Source cited.
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............is this a good thing? An experiment this big and running LIVE NOW as it happens awaiting resilts we are ALL in it (68% of us anyway) I'm honestly shi*ting myself how are others feeling.........?"What do you think is going to happen? I’d be more concerned about my blood pressure from needless worrying. I didn’t do an awful lot of research, it would have been pointless as science isn’t my forte. What I did do, with an open mind, is listen to some good advice from people with relevant educated backgrounds. A couple of those people were very close friends and others were on the telly! There’s no need to let common sense go out of the window - focus on the good news stories, that outweigh the negative stuff ! | |||
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............is this a good thing? An experiment this big and running LIVE NOW as it happens awaiting resilts we are ALL in it (68% of us anyway) I'm honestly shi*ting myself how are others feeling.........?
What do you think is going to happen?
I’d be more concerned about my blood pressure from needless worrying.
I didn’t do an awful lot of research, it would have been pointless as science isn’t my forte. What I did do, with an open mind, is listen to some good advice from people with relevant educated backgrounds. A couple of those people were very close friends and others were on the telly!
There’s no need to let common sense go out of the window - focus on the good news stories, that outweigh the negative stuff !
"I was on a phase 3 trial. (An actual trial, not anti vax fear porn nonsense) 150 people had had the vaccine before me, two had had more than transient side effects. I thought long and hard about it - and decided it was worth it. Medium term resolving symptoms or worse, 1 in 75 or less. | |||
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*Source cited.
Winston
............is this a good thing? An experiment this big and running LIVE NOW as it happens awaiting resilts we are ALL in it (68% of us anyway) I'm honestly shi*ting myself how are others feeling.........?
What do you think is going to happen?
I’d be more concerned about my blood pressure from needless worrying.
I didn’t do an awful lot of research, it would have been pointless as science isn’t my forte. What I did do, with an open mind, is listen to some good advice from people with relevant educated backgrounds. A couple of those people were very close friends and others were on the telly!
There’s no need to let common sense go out of the window - focus on the good news stories, that outweigh the negative stuff !
I was on a phase 3 trial. (An actual trial, not anti vax fear porn nonsense) 150 people had had the vaccine before me, two had had more than transient side effects. I thought long and hard about it - and decided it was worth it. Medium term resolving symptoms or worse, 1 in 75 or less."Oh wow, that was the very first round of vaccines? | |||
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"Masks help reduce the spread of Covid. It's simply a fact. The evidence is overwhelming & easy to find online via trusted medical sources. They're also cheap, safe & easy to use for the vast majority. And yet I know saying these things will result in confused anger from some. Why? When did we become so averse to science & reality?" But politicians help spread it, air travel unrestricted, breaking the lockdown that was introduced by government and the piss ups. | |||
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"Masks help reduce the spread of Covid. It's simply a fact. The evidence is overwhelming & easy to find online via trusted medical sources. They're also cheap, safe & easy to use for the vast majority. And yet I know saying these things will result in confused anger from some. Why? When did we become so averse to science & reality? But politicians help spread it, air travel unrestricted, breaking the lockdown that was introduced by government and the piss ups. "Obviously eat out to help out in a global pandemic made more people at risk | |||
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*Source cited.
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............is this a good thing? An experiment this big and running LIVE NOW as it happens awaiting resilts we are ALL in it (68% of us anyway) I'm honestly shi*ting myself how are others feeling.........?
What do you think is going to happen?
I’d be more concerned about my blood pressure from needless worrying.
I didn’t do an awful lot of research, it would have been pointless as science isn’t my forte. What I did do, with an open mind, is listen to some good advice from people with relevant educated backgrounds. A couple of those people were very close friends and others were on the telly!
There’s no need to let common sense go out of the window - focus on the good news stories, that outweigh the negative stuff !
I was on a phase 3 trial. (An actual trial, not anti vax fear porn nonsense) 150 people had had the vaccine before me, two had had more than transient side effects. I thought long and hard about it - and decided it was worth it. Medium term resolving symptoms or worse, 1 in 75 or less.
Oh wow, that was the very first round of vaccines? "No, it was one of the later trials - Valneva. Either I got Oxford AZ (which I did in the end, I was in the control arm), or I got the Valneva vaccine candidate. The phase 1/2 trial had 150 trial participants, as I say, and two had more than trivial symptoms. I thought that was a fair punt. (The fact that some dislike the odds of million to one or so, particularly when the odds of bad outcomes from Covid are far worse, blows my mind. But hey ho) | |||
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Obviously eat out to help out in a global pandemic made more people at risk "Open borders created and spread the different variations of the virus which were open during the majority of the UK lockdown. I agree with you with the eat out to help out but with the relaxation of the covid rules after the first round of inoculations it was to check the efficacy of the vaccine in its ability to reduce the impact on society of herd immunity which thankfully the majority of the UK population have. | |||
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............is this a good thing? An experiment this big and running LIVE NOW as it happens awaiting resilts we are ALL in it (68% of us anyway) I'm honestly shi*ting myself how are others feeling.........?"I don't see it as a bad thing. Why are you shitting yourself? What are you reading that's frightening you that much? Winston | |||
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............is this a good thing? An experiment this big and running LIVE NOW as it happens awaiting resilts we are ALL in it (68% of us anyway) I'm honestly shi*ting myself how are others feeling.........?
What do you think is going to happen?
I’d be more concerned about my blood pressure from needless worrying.
I didn’t do an awful lot of research, it would have been pointless as science isn’t my forte. What I did do, with an open mind, is listen to some good advice from people with relevant educated backgrounds. A couple of those people were very close friends and others were on the telly!
There’s no need to let common sense go out of the window - focus on the good news stories, that outweigh the negative stuff !
I was on a phase 3 trial. (An actual trial, not anti vax fear porn nonsense) 150 people had had the vaccine before me, two had had more than transient side effects. I thought long and hard about it - and decided it was worth it. Medium term resolving symptoms or worse, 1 in 75 or less.
Oh wow, that was the very first round of vaccines?
No, it was one of the later trials - Valneva. Either I got Oxford AZ (which I did in the end, I was in the control arm), or I got the Valneva vaccine candidate. The phase 1/2 trial had 150 trial participants, as I say, and two had more than trivial symptoms. I thought that was a fair punt. (The fact that some dislike the odds of million to one or so, particularly when the odds of bad outcomes from Covid are far worse, blows my mind. But hey ho)" | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Absolutely agree, that's 100% accurate if you want to reduce YOUR risk of becoming infected.
However
Even a dirty, germ infested oily rag over your face will reduce the chances of you infecting someone else if you have COVID / cold / flu
It depends whether your primary concern is looking after number 1 or you actually care about others.
"Nothing wrong to look out after your own health as a priority . Stop shaming people for doing so.
Here's a detailed account of the possible damages masks can do: "Is a Mask That Covers the Mouth and Nose Free from Undesirable Side Effects in Everyday Use and Free of Potential Hazards?" on PubMed ncbi. | |||
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"Two years in n out of lockdown .. people not knowing what the fuck is going on in the world .. we all know covid is still around and still making people poorly and others passing away from it but why is this chat still open ?? .. any other forum chat would of been closed down long ago .. admin needs to close the chat and others get on with your life .. if you get its tuff .. if you don't then good in you .. #itsboringnow But can’t you just ignore it?? ..why not ? We ignore the common colds n flu don't we .. its life n is around forever whether we like it or not . " | |||
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"Two years in n out of lockdown .. people not knowing what the fuck is going on in the world .. we all know covid is still around and still making people poorly and others passing away from it but why is this chat still open ?? .. any other forum chat would of been closed down long ago .. admin needs to close the chat and others get on with your life .. if you get its tuff .. if you don't then good in you .. #itsboringnow But can’t you just ignore it?? ..why not ? We ignore the common colds n flu don't we .. its life n is around forever whether we like it or not . " Errr no we don't ignore colds n flu.... Not if you're going to see your granny or other folks you don't want to get ill | |||
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"Two years in n out of lockdown .. people not knowing what the fuck is going on in the world .. we all know covid is still around and still making people poorly and others passing away from it but why is this chat still open ?? .. any other forum chat would of been closed down long ago .. admin needs to close the chat and others get on with your life .. if you get its tuff .. if you don't then good in you .. #itsboringnow But can’t you just ignore it?? I thought the reason it has been separated is because it produces a high intrigue on the forums and just about anywhere else to be honest. "Exactly, I only follow a couple of threads but the ones that interest me. | |||
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"Two years in n out of lockdown .. people not knowing what the fuck is going on in the world .. we all know covid is still around and still making people poorly and others passing away from it but why is this chat still open ?? .. any other forum chat would of been closed down long ago .. admin needs to close the chat and others get on with your life .. if you get its tuff .. if you don't then good in you .. #itsboringnow But can’t you just ignore it?? ..why not ? We ignore the common colds n flu don't we .. its life n is around forever whether we like it or not . " Sorry, I meant ignore the Virus forum. If it doesn’t interest you, don’t read it. | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Gosh that's a long reply. Summed up: wear a clean mask & don't fuck around with it.
You know, you can easily read up on the benefits of masks v Covid via a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc. Or you could just go for some person on youtube, I guess. As you were...
I love how you avoided my question - have you or have you not followed every single step religiously and observed other people follow all of those steps ?
Do you see many people walking around with boxes of clean masks in their hands or do you see people pull one out of their back pocket?
How many people around you did you see wash their hands after giving their face a good scratch because their mask is too itchy?
Love how you jumped onto discrediting the video because it's on YouTube. If the same video was on WHO website or on gov.uk would it make you suddenly believe that cross contamination is a real thing or do you need further proof?
If so - basic level 2 and level 3 food safety training course will provide you with everything you need to know about cross contamination
Well you've convinced me with your confused rant. I'm off to burn my masks & build some sort of Wicker Man. Why not, I guess?
You still haven't answered my question!
How convenient
Yup everything's a conspiracy. I'm on your side now.
What should I put in my Wicker Man? A pile of masks? Or some sort of effigy wearing a minimask?"You could always just grow up and leave your mask nonsense in the bin, and return to living like you did for many many years before 2020 | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Gosh that's a long reply. Summed up: wear a clean mask & don't fuck around with it.
You know, you can easily read up on the benefits of masks v Covid via a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc. Or you could just go for some person on youtube, I guess. As you were...
I love how you avoided my question - have you or have you not followed every single step religiously and observed other people follow all of those steps ?
Do you see many people walking around with boxes of clean masks in their hands or do you see people pull one out of their back pocket?
How many people around you did you see wash their hands after giving their face a good scratch because their mask is too itchy?
Love how you jumped onto discrediting the video because it's on YouTube. If the same video was on WHO website or on gov.uk would it make you suddenly believe that cross contamination is a real thing or do you need further proof?
If so - basic level 2 and level 3 food safety training course will provide you with everything you need to know about cross contamination
Well you've convinced me with your confused rant. I'm off to burn my masks & build some sort of Wicker Man. Why not, I guess?
You still haven't answered my question!
How convenient
Yup everything's a conspiracy. I'm on your side now.
What should I put in my Wicker Man? A pile of masks? Or some sort of effigy wearing a minimask?
You could always just grow up and leave your mask nonsense in the bin, and return to living like you did for many many years before 2020"Did we use the forum to bully and abuse people having discussions prior to 2020 or is it's new thing ? | |||
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"Here's your answer visually demonstrated by a nurse https://youtu.be/6GV2E_2wb_0 Um... what do you think that actually proves? It proves that unless you religiously follow every single step of how to correctly put on, wear and dispose of your mask- you're not saving anyone from anything as you're just contributing to cross contamination and spread your germs via your own hands. Correct steps are: 1. Sanitize/wash your hands before touching the mask. 2. Take the mask out of its packaging (not your pocket, not your wife's handbag, not your cars rear view mirror) 3. Put it on your face by holding ear straps. 4. Pinch nose so it securely fits. 5. Wash/sanktize your hands. 6. Do not touch your face or your mask while wearing it. 7. Do not wear it for any longer than 4 hours. 8. If you need to take your mask off to take a drink or eat something- dispose of current mask and follow steps 1 to 7. You can not reuse the same mask twice. How to dispose of your mask: 1. Sanitize/ wash your hands 2. Take a mask by its ear straps and take it off your face. 3. Put it in a bin. 4. Sanitize/wash your hands. Now please tell me you diligently follow every single step in correct order and have never ever ever reused a mask (especially at a restaurant where you had to put one on every time you got up for a pee) or skipped hand washing after taking it off
Gosh that's a long reply. Summed up: wear a clean mask & don't fuck around with it.
You know, you can easily read up on the benefits of masks v Covid via a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc. Or you could just go for some person on youtube, I guess. As you were...
I love how you avoided my question - have you or have you not followed every single step religiously and observed other people follow all of those steps ?
Do you see many people walking around with boxes of clean masks in their hands or do you see people pull one out of their back pocket?
How many people around you did you see wash their hands after giving their face a good scratch because their mask is too itchy?
Love how you jumped onto discrediting the video because it's on YouTube. If the same video was on WHO website or on gov.uk would it make you suddenly believe that cross contamination is a real thing or do you need further proof?
If so - basic level 2 and level 3 food safety training course will provide you with everything you need to know about cross contamination
Well you've convinced me with your confused rant. I'm off to burn my masks & build some sort of Wicker Man. Why not, I guess?
You still haven't answered my question!
How convenient
Yup everything's a conspiracy. I'm on your side now.
What should I put in my Wicker Man? A pile of masks? Or some sort of effigy wearing a minimask?
You could always just grow up and leave your mask nonsense in the bin, and return to living like you did for many many years before 2020"Or we can learn from our experiences and move forward with new information. Even if Covid were no longer a thing, I'd continue to mask because I don't like getting sick. Now I know that's something I can do. Hadn't occurred to me before. | |||
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.) You still haven't answered my question. Do you or do you not religiously follow the correct steps of mask wearing? I've looked at all of those years ago, done my homework, thanks. And it would be correct and 100% accurate if all people would follow the correct steps. But they don't. They never have and never will. One or two might pop up here and act all uppity and claim they have never wore the same mask twice or pulled one out of their pocket or thar they wash their hands every single time they touch their face, but that is all... one or two people, most don't even know how to use them for them to be effective. So, for the last time, will you answer my question - have you or have you not diligently followed all the correct steps every single time you wore a mask? (Shouldn't be so hard to answer... I mean it's you who advocated so hard for them in the original post) I wouldn’t waste your time with these virtue signalling twats you know the type- I’ve been fully vaccinated status’s on their social media followed by the Ukrainian flag etc..- We all know that mask wearing does absolutely bugger all. "Exactly. Wear a piece of cloth does f all. Just part of the brainwashing of the last few years | |||
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"Never worn one. Don’t care. And still here alive and well. " I'm still not sure why it amazes me that not everybody seems to know wearing a mask is for the benefit of others, much more than yourself | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections? "Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem. Winston | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections? "You'll be put on the naughty step .. | |||
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"Never worn one. Don’t care. And still here alive and well. " If you were a health care professional would you wear one or be a rebel and say "no, I'm not wearing a mask, I'd rather leave this career". I wear a mask all day and just don't find it an issue. Before, during, post Covid. I wish the only worry on a day to day basis at work was to don a mask. | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections? "Well that's your perogative, but I respect that's how you feel. However your first post made it sound like it was for you, masks only mildly protect you, the real benefits are to others; that's not propaganda if you mean that... | |||
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"Never worn one. Don’t care. And still here alive and well. If you were a health care professional would you wear one or be a rebel and say "no, I'm not wearing a mask, I'd rather leave this career". I wear a mask all day and just don't find it an issue. Before, during, post Covid. I wish the only worry on a day to day basis at work was to don a mask. "Ok well shes most likely not a healthcare professional. Im sure if she was she would as thats a completely different scenario than wearing one walking down the street or buying some jacks roll | |||
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"Never worn one. Don’t care. And still here alive and well. If you were a health care professional would you wear one or be a rebel and say "no, I'm not wearing a mask, I'd rather leave this career". I wear a mask all day and just don't find it an issue. Before, during, post Covid. I wish the only worry on a day to day basis at work was to don a mask. "Don’t worry. You won’t have to wear one soon when you all walk out on strike AGAIN. Real heroes right there… | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston "Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait… Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear. If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t. You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it."prove you didn’t pass it on | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it."Nail head .. bang on | |||
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Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on "How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania? | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on
How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania? "After each monthly protest I went too in London and other major cities .. Thousands upon thousands and even millions of non masked caring people ( or super spreaders as you affectionately like to refer to us) walked and talked to each other and the general public.. after each event .. There was obviously massive spikes .. oh wait there wasn't | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on
How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania?
After each monthly protest I went too in London and other major cities .. Thousands upon thousands and even millions of non masked caring people ( or super spreaders as you affectionately like to refer to us) walked and talked to each other and the general public.. after each event .. There was obviously massive spikes .. oh wait there wasn't "I’ve never referred to anyone as a “super spreader “ I tend not to use the latest buzz words as I’ve said I choose to listen to someone who knew a bit more than me and the nutters on Twitter and Facebook in regards to looking after myself zero fucks given to what others did or didn’t do at the time I did what I thought was the correct thing to do I look back and think I made the correct choice as I managed to get through without a problem sadly a relative didn’t died in intensive care | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on
How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania?
After each monthly protest I went too in London and other major cities .. Thousands upon thousands and even millions of non masked caring people ( or super spreaders as you affectionately like to refer to us) walked and talked to each other and the general public.. after each event .. There was obviously massive spikes .. oh wait there wasn't I’ve never referred to anyone as a “super spreader “ I tend not to use the latest buzz words as I’ve said I choose to listen to someone who knew a bit more than me and the nutters on Twitter and Facebook in regards to looking after myself zero fucks given to what others did or didn’t do at the time I did what I thought was the correct thing to do I look back and think I made the correct choice as I managed to get through without a problem sadly a relative didn’t died in intensive care "My condolences.. Nope I listened to experts against it all that got hounded sacked and demonised The Barrington Declaration I actually listened first hand to Prof Delores Cahill of virology and immunology also a noble prize candidate and secretary of some health federation (can't remember the specific name .. another member happened to be the ex lord chief justice .. put you in perspective they were all experts in thier field .. tho The sage committee who advised the Gov were made up of amateurs in their field and did you know used and sited Wikipedia for the basis of lockdown .. was documented on BBC2 | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on
How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania?
After each monthly protest I went too in London and other major cities .. Thousands upon thousands and even millions of non masked caring people ( or super spreaders as you affectionately like to refer to us) walked and talked to each other and the general public.. after each event .. There was obviously massive spikes .. oh wait there wasn't I’ve never referred to anyone as a “super spreader “ I tend not to use the latest buzz words as I’ve said I choose to listen to someone who knew a bit more than me and the nutters on Twitter and Facebook in regards to looking after myself zero fucks given to what others did or didn’t do at the time I did what I thought was the correct thing to do I look back and think I made the correct choice as I managed to get through without a problem sadly a relative didn’t died in intensive care
My condolences.. Nope I listened to experts against it all that got hounded sacked and demonised The Barrington Declaration I actually listened first hand to Prof Delores Cahill of virology and immunology also a noble prize candidate and secretary of some health federation (can't remember the specific name .. another member happened to be the ex lord chief justice .. put you in perspective they were all experts in thier field .. tho The sage committee who advised the Gov were made up of amateurs in their field and did you know used and sited Wikipedia for the basis of lockdown .. was documented on BBC2 "So many words….. so much bollox | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on
How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania?
After each monthly protest I went too in London and other major cities .. Thousands upon thousands and even millions of non masked caring people ( or super spreaders as you affectionately like to refer to us) walked and talked to each other and the general public.. after each event .. There was obviously massive spikes .. oh wait there wasn't I’ve never referred to anyone as a “super spreader “ I tend not to use the latest buzz words as I’ve said I choose to listen to someone who knew a bit more than me and the nutters on Twitter and Facebook in regards to looking after myself zero fucks given to what others did or didn’t do at the time I did what I thought was the correct thing to do I look back and think I made the correct choice as I managed to get through without a problem sadly a relative didn’t died in intensive care
My condolences.. Nope I listened to experts against it all that got hounded sacked and demonised The Barrington Declaration I actually listened first hand to Prof Delores Cahill of virology and immunology also a noble prize candidate and secretary of some health federation (can't remember the specific name .. another member happened to be the ex lord chief justice .. put you in perspective they were all experts in thier field .. tho The sage committee who advised the Gov were made up of amateurs in their field and did you know used and sited Wikipedia for the basis of lockdown .. was documented on BBC2 "fair enough I’m not going to argue you had you’re sources I had mine I just don’t get it when people say things like sheep and brainwashed etc etc | |||
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Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on
How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania?
After each monthly protest I went too in London and other major cities .. Thousands upon thousands and even millions of non masked caring people ( or super spreaders as you affectionately like to refer to us) walked and talked to each other and the general public.. after each event .. There was obviously massive spikes .. oh wait there wasn't I’ve never referred to anyone as a “super spreader “ I tend not to use the latest buzz words as I’ve said I choose to listen to someone who knew a bit more than me and the nutters on Twitter and Facebook in regards to looking after myself zero fucks given to what others did or didn’t do at the time I did what I thought was the correct thing to do I look back and think I made the correct choice as I managed to get through without a problem sadly a relative didn’t died in intensive care
My condolences.. Nope I listened to experts against it all that got hounded sacked and demonised The Barrington Declaration I actually listened first hand to Prof Delores Cahill of virology and immunology also a noble prize candidate and secretary of some health federation (can't remember the specific name .. another member happened to be the ex lord chief justice .. put you in perspective they were all experts in thier field .. tho The sage committee who advised the Gov were made up of amateurs in their field and did you know used and sited Wikipedia for the basis of lockdown .. was documented on BBC2 fair enough I’m not going to argue you had you’re sources I had mine I just don’t get it when people say things like sheep and brainwashed etc etc "Divide and conquer my friend one of the biggest PsyOps in the history of the human race ..names were flung and sides drawn .. have you ever heard of the Heglian Dialect .. Problem .. reaction .. solution | |||
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" My condolences.. Nope I listened to experts against it all that got hounded sacked and demonised The Barrington Declaration I actually listened first hand to Prof Delores Cahill of virology and immunology also a noble prize candidate and secretary of some health federation (can't remember the specific name .. another member happened to be the ex lord chief justice .. put you in perspective they were all experts in thier field .. tho The sage committee who advised the Gov were made up of amateurs in their field and did you know used and sited Wikipedia for the basis of lockdown .. was documented on BBC2 " My word | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on
How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania?
After each monthly protest I went too in London and other major cities .. Thousands upon thousands and even millions of non masked caring people ( or super spreaders as you affectionately like to refer to us) walked and talked to each other and the general public.. after each event .. There was obviously massive spikes .. oh wait there wasn't I’ve never referred to anyone as a “super spreader “ I tend not to use the latest buzz words as I’ve said I choose to listen to someone who knew a bit more than me and the nutters on Twitter and Facebook in regards to looking after myself zero fucks given to what others did or didn’t do at the time I did what I thought was the correct thing to do I look back and think I made the correct choice as I managed to get through without a problem sadly a relative didn’t died in intensive care
My condolences.. Nope I listened to experts against it all that got hounded sacked and demonised The Barrington Declaration I actually listened first hand to Prof Delores Cahill of virology and immunology also a noble prize candidate and secretary of some health federation (can't remember the specific name .. another member happened to be the ex lord chief justice .. put you in perspective they were all experts in thier field .. tho The sage committee who advised the Gov were made up of amateurs in their field and did you know used and sited Wikipedia for the basis of lockdown .. was documented on BBC2 fair enough I’m not going to argue you had you’re sources I had mine I just don’t get it when people say things like sheep and brainwashed etc etc
Divide and conquer my friend one of the biggest PsyOps in the history of the human race ..names were flung and sides drawn .. have you ever heard of the Heglian Dialect ..
Problem .. reaction .. solution "I’m all honesty mate I’ve not the foggiest to what you have just said no offence | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on
How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania?
After each monthly protest I went too in London and other major cities .. Thousands upon thousands and even millions of non masked caring people ( or super spreaders as you affectionately like to refer to us) walked and talked to each other and the general public.. after each event .. There was obviously massive spikes .. oh wait there wasn't I’ve never referred to anyone as a “super spreader “ I tend not to use the latest buzz words as I’ve said I choose to listen to someone who knew a bit more than me and the nutters on Twitter and Facebook in regards to looking after myself zero fucks given to what others did or didn’t do at the time I did what I thought was the correct thing to do I look back and think I made the correct choice as I managed to get through without a problem sadly a relative didn’t died in intensive care
My condolences.. Nope I listened to experts against it all that got hounded sacked and demonised The Barrington Declaration I actually listened first hand to Prof Delores Cahill of virology and immunology also a noble prize candidate and secretary of some health federation (can't remember the specific name .. another member happened to be the ex lord chief justice .. put you in perspective they were all experts in thier field .. tho The sage committee who advised the Gov were made up of amateurs in their field and did you know used and sited Wikipedia for the basis of lockdown .. was documented on BBC2 fair enough I’m not going to argue you had you’re sources I had mine I just don’t get it when people say things like sheep and brainwashed etc etc
Divide and conquer my friend one of the biggest PsyOps in the history of the human race ..names were flung and sides drawn .. have you ever heard of the Heglian Dialect ..
Problem .. reaction .. solution I’m all honesty mate I’ve not the foggiest to what you have just said no offence "Psyops .. psychological operations we have a military branch that specialises on social media I've no doubt they will have infiltrated this site .. the aim to bolster government propaganda.. also psychologists were part of the sage team .. project fear . Stay home or granny will die all that good holmsome cheery stuff thar was pumped down your neck TV radio billboards busses dust carts phone boxes | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on
How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania?
After each monthly protest I went too in London and other major cities .. Thousands upon thousands and even millions of non masked caring people ( or super spreaders as you affectionately like to refer to us) walked and talked to each other and the general public.. after each event .. There was obviously massive spikes .. oh wait there wasn't I’ve never referred to anyone as a “super spreader “ I tend not to use the latest buzz words as I’ve said I choose to listen to someone who knew a bit more than me and the nutters on Twitter and Facebook in regards to looking after myself zero fucks given to what others did or didn’t do at the time I did what I thought was the correct thing to do I look back and think I made the correct choice as I managed to get through without a problem sadly a relative didn’t died in intensive care
My condolences.. Nope I listened to experts against it all that got hounded sacked and demonised The Barrington Declaration I actually listened first hand to Prof Delores Cahill of virology and immunology also a noble prize candidate and secretary of some health federation (can't remember the specific name .. another member happened to be the ex lord chief justice .. put you in perspective they were all experts in thier field .. tho The sage committee who advised the Gov were made up of amateurs in their field and did you know used and sited Wikipedia for the basis of lockdown .. was documented on BBC2 fair enough I’m not going to argue you had you’re sources I had mine I just don’t get it when people say things like sheep and brainwashed etc etc
Divide and conquer my friend one of the biggest PsyOps in the history of the human race ..names were flung and sides drawn .. have you ever heard of the Heglian Dialect ..
Problem .. reaction .. solution I’m all honesty mate I’ve not the foggiest to what you have just said no offence
Psyops .. psychological operations we have a military branch that specialises on social media I've no doubt they will have infiltrated this site .. the aim to bolster government propaganda.. also psychologists were part of the sage team .. project fear . Stay home or granny will die all that good holmsome cheery stuff thar was pumped down your neck TV radio billboards busses dust carts phone boxes "77 brigade .. specialise in psyops | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on
How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania?
After each monthly protest I went too in London and other major cities .. Thousands upon thousands and even millions of non masked caring people ( or super spreaders as you affectionately like to refer to us) walked and talked to each other and the general public.. after each event .. There was obviously massive spikes .. oh wait there wasn't I’ve never referred to anyone as a “super spreader “ I tend not to use the latest buzz words as I’ve said I choose to listen to someone who knew a bit more than me and the nutters on Twitter and Facebook in regards to looking after myself zero fucks given to what others did or didn’t do at the time I did what I thought was the correct thing to do I look back and think I made the correct choice as I managed to get through without a problem sadly a relative didn’t died in intensive care
My condolences.. Nope I listened to experts against it all that got hounded sacked and demonised The Barrington Declaration I actually listened first hand to Prof Delores Cahill of virology and immunology also a noble prize candidate and secretary of some health federation (can't remember the specific name .. another member happened to be the ex lord chief justice .. put you in perspective they were all experts in thier field .. tho The sage committee who advised the Gov were made up of amateurs in their field and did you know used and sited Wikipedia for the basis of lockdown .. was documented on BBC2 "SAGE were made up of amateurs? SAGE was reported in July 2020 to consist of around 20 participants at any one given time. Participants are drawn from both academia and practice, and the participants of a particular meeting are decided upon by the British Government Chief Scientific Adviser and the Chief Medical Officer for England, depending on the expertise required. They are not generally employed by government. They do not operate under government instruction. In addition to these participants, SAGE is also attended by officials from relevant parts of government and arm's-length bodies who may contribute to discussions with relevant expertise, for instance, Public Health England and the Chief Scientific Advisers to government departments. The government does not have to act upon the conclusions of SAGE, and other bodies, including other sources of scientific advice, feed in to government's decisions. Only the Chief Scientific Adviser and Chief Medical Officer may speak on behalf of SAGE. Sub-committees can be delegated by SAGE to study particular issues. During the COVID-19 pandemic, these were: Scientific Pandemic Insights Group on Behaviours (SPI-B) Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Modelling (SPI-M) PHE Serology Working Group COVID-19 Clinical Information Network (CO-CIN) Environmental Modelling Group (EMG) Children’s Task and Finish Working Group (TFC) Hospital Onset COVID-19 Working Group (HOCI) Ethnicity Subgroup Social Care Working Group (SCWG) Yup. Amateurs.
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.) You still haven't answered my question. Do you or do you not religiously follow the correct steps of mask wearing? I've looked at all of those years ago, done my homework, thanks. And it would be correct and 100% accurate if all people would follow the correct steps. But they don't. They never have and never will. One or two might pop up here and act all uppity and claim they have never wore the same mask twice or pulled one out of their pocket or thar they wash their hands every single time they touch their face, but that is all... one or two people, most don't even know how to use them for them to be effective. So, for the last time, will you answer my question - have you or have you not diligently followed all the correct steps every single time you wore a mask? (Shouldn't be so hard to answer... I mean it's you who advocated so hard for them in the original post) Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo!" And it says on the box of medical grade masks "does not prevent viral infection" tells me all I need to know also here's a bit of science a virus is 1 micron in size the smallest hole in a medical mask is 67 microns | |||
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"Other people’s problems aren’t my responsibility. You never cared before 2019 because there wasn’t any propaganda. Besides, what are they scared of if they’ve had their multiple injections?
Other people's problems are your responsibility if you're the one who gave them the problem.
Winston
Responsible. HA! Feeling fine for the last 2 years with no symptoms or illness. Go on then, prove I passed it on. I’ll wait…
Nobody was scared of covid, apart from the brainwashed few. They wore masks because they didn’t want confrontation in shops or to get in “trouble”. They took jabs for clubs, holidays or were bullied into it. Not through fear.
If people genuinely cared then the vast majority would still wear them. They don’t.
You lot just cling onto it because you can’t admit that you were lied to, brainwashed and scammed. Everyone’s moved on, get over it. prove you didn’t pass it on
How does one prove a negative? Should she also prove she didnt give it to someone in sengal? Or albania?
After each monthly protest I went too in London and other major cities .. Thousands upon thousands and even millions of non masked caring people ( or super spreaders as you affectionately like to refer to us) walked and talked to each other and the general public.. after each event .. There was obviously massive spikes .. oh wait there wasn't I’ve never referred to anyone as a “super spreader “ I tend not to use the latest buzz words as I’ve said I choose to listen to someone who knew a bit more than me and the nutters on Twitter and Facebook in regards to looking after myself zero fucks given to what others did or didn’t do at the time I did what I thought was the correct thing to do I look back and think I made the correct choice as I managed to get through without a problem sadly a relative didn’t died in intensive care
My condolences.. Nope I listened to experts against it all that got hounded sacked and demonised The Barrington Declaration I actually listened first hand to Prof Delores Cahill of virology and immunology also a noble prize candidate and secretary of some health federation (can't remember the specific name .. another member happened to be the ex lord chief justice .. put you in perspective they were all experts in thier field .. tho The sage committee who advised the Gov were made up of amateurs in their field and did you know used and sited Wikipedia for the basis of lockdown .. was documented on BBC2
SAGE were made up of amateurs?
SAGE was reported in July 2020 to consist of around 20 participants at any one given time.
Participants are drawn from both academia and practice, and the participants of a particular meeting are decided upon by the British Government Chief Scientific Adviser and the Chief Medical Officer for England, depending on the expertise required. They are not generally employed by government.
They do not operate under government instruction. In addition to these participants, SAGE is also attended by officials from relevant parts of government and arm's-length bodies who may contribute to discussions with relevant expertise, for instance, Public Health England and the Chief Scientific Advisers to government departments.
The government does not have to act upon the conclusions of SAGE, and other bodies, including other sources of scientific advice, feed in to government's decisions.
Only the Chief Scientific Adviser and Chief Medical Officer may speak on behalf of SAGE.
Sub-committees can be delegated by SAGE to study particular issues. During the COVID-19 pandemic, these were:
Scientific Pandemic Insights Group on Behaviours (SPI-B)
Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Modelling (SPI-M)
PHE Serology Working Group
COVID-19 Clinical Information Network (CO-CIN)
Environmental Modelling Group (EMG)
Children’s Task and Finish Working Group (TFC)
Hospital Onset COVID-19 Working Group (HOCI)
Ethnicity Subgroup
Social Care Working Group (SCWG)
Yup. Amateurs.
Winston "Novice in their field I'm sorry .. I wish I still had my Facebook account Because I had a similar conversation with a very uppity Immunologist From the University of Cambridge.. unlike yourself conceded and stood corrected .. You seem to be very proficient at copy and paste . Get quite pompous when replying like you have the profound knowledge yet I've to see you put anything other than mocking and satire into context .. | |||
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.) You still haven't answered my question. Do you or do you not religiously follow the correct steps of mask wearing? I've looked at all of those years ago, done my homework, thanks. And it would be correct and 100% accurate if all people would follow the correct steps. But they don't. They never have and never will. One or two might pop up here and act all uppity and claim they have never wore the same mask twice or pulled one out of their pocket or thar they wash their hands every single time they touch their face, but that is all... one or two people, most don't even know how to use them for them to be effective. So, for the last time, will you answer my question - have you or have you not diligently followed all the correct steps every single time you wore a mask? (Shouldn't be so hard to answer... I mean it's you who advocated so hard for them in the original post) Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo! And it says on the box of medical grade masks "does not prevent viral infection" tells me all I need to know also here's a bit of science a virus is 1 micron in size the smallest hole in a medical mask is 67 microns " Don't mate they can't handle it.. be the same ones wearing an N95 mask with a vent .. telling me they are wearing it to protect others .. the vent/valve is one way Exhausting  at the same time N95 masks need to be face fitted of which there are 3 sizes .. not everyone fits ..
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.) You still haven't answered my question. Do you or do you not religiously follow the correct steps of mask wearing? I've looked at all of those years ago, done my homework, thanks. And it would be correct and 100% accurate if all people would follow the correct steps. But they don't. They never have and never will. One or two might pop up here and act all uppity and claim they have never wore the same mask twice or pulled one out of their pocket or thar they wash their hands every single time they touch their face, but that is all... one or two people, most don't even know how to use them for them to be effective. So, for the last time, will you answer my question - have you or have you not diligently followed all the correct steps every single time you wore a mask? (Shouldn't be so hard to answer... I mean it's you who advocated so hard for them in the original post) Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo! And it says on the box of medical grade masks "does not prevent viral infection" tells me all I need to know also here's a bit of science a virus is 1 micron in size the smallest hole in a medical mask is 67 microns " If you think each virus microbe leaves the body by itself, floating around, 1 microbe in airspace you're thoroughly wrong | |||
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.) You still haven't answered my question. Do you or do you not religiously follow the correct steps of mask wearing? I've looked at all of those years ago, done my homework, thanks. And it would be correct and 100% accurate if all people would follow the correct steps. But they don't. They never have and never will. One or two might pop up here and act all uppity and claim they have never wore the same mask twice or pulled one out of their pocket or thar they wash their hands every single time they touch their face, but that is all... one or two people, most don't even know how to use them for them to be effective. So, for the last time, will you answer my question - have you or have you not diligently followed all the correct steps every single time you wore a mask? (Shouldn't be so hard to answer... I mean it's you who advocated so hard for them in the original post) Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo! And it says on the box of medical grade masks "does not prevent viral infection" tells me all I need to know also here's a bit of science a virus is 1 micron in size the smallest hole in a medical mask is 67 microns Don't mate they can't handle it.. be the same ones wearing an N95 mask with a vent .. telling me they are wearing it to protect others .. the vent/valve is one way Exhausting at the same time N95 masks need to be face fitted of which there are 3 sizes .. not everyone fits ..
Honestly best to just let them get on with it .. starting to think the place is full of 77 brigade "Ah I know brother its hard to imagine that so many people can fit that much stupid into just one head stay free stay strong | |||
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"I see you're incapable of having an adult conversation without jumping on a conspiracy wagon. How mature. Yup I was terribly immature when I suggested you look at a trusted medical source such as the NHS, the Lancet, the CDC etc to see the effects of masks v Covid. Oh well. Too late now since I'm a born-again antimasker. Burn all those masks, I say! (Also, knickers. They can't be hygienic for pussies.) You still haven't answered my question. Do you or do you not religiously follow the correct steps of mask wearing? I've looked at all of those years ago, done my homework, thanks. And it would be correct and 100% accurate if all people would follow the correct steps. But they don't. They never have and never will. One or two might pop up here and act all uppity and claim they have never wore the same mask twice or pulled one out of their pocket or thar they wash their hands every single time they touch their face, but that is all... one or two people, most don't even know how to use them for them to be effective. So, for the last time, will you answer my question - have you or have you not diligently followed all the correct steps every single time you wore a mask? (Shouldn't be so hard to answer... I mean it's you who advocated so hard for them in the original post) Joking aside, I do actually follow those steps. It's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. But what am I thinking? Masks useless & evil. Booo! And it says on the box of medical grade masks "does not prevent viral infection" tells me all I need to know also here's a bit of science a virus is 1 micron in size the smallest hole in a medical mask is 67 microns If you think each virus microbe leaves the body by itself, floating around, 1 microbe in airspace you're thoroughly wrong "And do you remember the government advert saying covid virus does float around so open your windows to blow the virus out? | |||
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