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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

This may be the party deflection…

Rumour doing the round is that boris may announce the covid plan b is going to be introduced…

Working for home where possible and vaccine passports coming…..

Let the arguments begin…. Again….

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No argument here just do what they have got to do.

We have lived with masks and passports for ages and it is really no biggie (for us)!!

Best of luck UK

T

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Could also be why the smoking gun of the party got out - because the no restrictions faction are mad that restrictions might be coming

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

City AM are reporting it, and they are always on the money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The issue will be wether anyone follows any new guidelines following the debacle of “the party”. I’ve voted Tory most of my life, but this is probably the straw. Total lack of any credibility,

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

One department where I work have cancelled their Christmas party.

The others are still going this weekend. Be interesting to see what’s said about socialising.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The issue will be wether anyone follows any new guidelines following the debacle of “the party”. I’ve voted Tory most of my life, but this is probably the straw. Total lack of any credibility, "

I'm not doing it for the government. I'm doing it for my community.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The issue will be wether anyone follows any new guidelines following the debacle of “the party”. I’ve voted Tory most of my life, but this is probably the straw. Total lack of any credibility,

I'm not doing it for the government. I'm doing it for my community. "

So shall I, but many people will see the abhorrent behaviour as an excuse, and indeed reason, to ignore any new measures.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The issue will be wether anyone follows any new guidelines following the debacle of “the party”. I’ve voted Tory most of my life, but this is probably the straw. Total lack of any credibility,

I'm not doing it for the government. I'm doing it for my community.

So shall I, but many people will see the abhorrent behaviour as an excuse, and indeed reason, to ignore any new measures. "

I know. It's depressing.

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

We will continue to wear masks and be sensible because it's the right thing to do for us and to protect others. However if Plan B is put in place I don't expect people to comply given the way that those who put these rules in place constantly flout them then don't have the bollocks to face questions and criticism. They're just taking the piss out of everyone who's suffered this past 20 months, they have no respect for those who've lost their lives or for those who've worked tirelessly throughout the pandemic to care for others

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By *he_Last_TitanMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Quite possible this is simply being 'floated' to move the conversation on. PMQs not far off, which if Starmer does the job he is supposed to, should provide a lot of talking points re Xmas-party-gate.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"We will continue to wear masks and be sensible because it's the right thing to do for us and to protect others. However if Plan B is put in place I don't expect people to comply given the way that those who put these rules in place constantly flout them then don't have the bollocks to face questions and criticism. They're just taking the piss out of everyone who's suffered this past 20 months, they have no respect for those who've lost their lives or for those who've worked tirelessly throughout the pandemic to care for others"

I honour the dead by protecting the living.

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By *an JuniperoCouple
over a year ago

North East

Can’t imagine the majority of people would take this too well. Introducing new restrictions in the wake of getting caught breaking restrictions.

They laughed about the party and they’ll be laughing again if people stand for this.

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"No argument here just do what they have got to do.

We have lived with masks and passports for ages and it is really no biggie (for us)!!

Best of luck UK

T"

France, which has had strict mask mandates and vaccine passports in place for months, just hit its highest COVID case rate since April.

Their solution? Make more school kids wear masks and enforce vaccine passports in outdoor areas. Genius.

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Can’t imagine the majority of people would take this too well. Introducing new restrictions in the wake of getting caught breaking restrictions.

They laughed about the party and they’ll be laughing again if people stand for this. "

Their heads need to roll.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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It’s laughable when people say they won’t comply because others don’t how is that a sensible decision? I’m sure covid appreciate that line of defence.

I will abide by rules for me and others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control "

Control? Please elaborate…

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It’s laughable when people say they won’t comply because others don’t how is that a sensible decision? I’m sure covid appreciate that line of defence.

I will abide by rules for me and others. "

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s laughable when people say they won’t comply because others don’t how is that a sensible decision? I’m sure covid appreciate that line of defence.

I will abide by rules for me and others. "

Yep

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By *rgasmickMan
over a year ago

Visting

Boris can f@@k right of now, I will not comply. People need to wake up.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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"Boris can f@@k right of now, I will not comply. People need to wake up."

I am awake.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"

France, which has had strict mask mandates and vaccine passports in place for months, just hit its highest COVID case rate since April.

Their solution? Make more school kids wear masks and enforce vaccine passports in outdoor areas. Genius."

What should they be doing?

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By *rgasmickMan
over a year ago

Visting


"Boris can f@@k right of now, I will not comply. People need to wake up.

I am awake. "

Glad to hear it

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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"Boris can f@@k right of now, I will not comply. People need to wake up.

I am awake.

Glad to hear it "

And I will both follow any rules and use my common sense

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate… "

There is no scientific data stating that vaccine passports help stop the spread…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We will continue to wear masks and be sensible because it's the right thing to do for us and to protect others. However if Plan B is put in place I don't expect people to comply given the way that those who put these rules in place constantly flout them then don't have the bollocks to face questions and criticism. They're just taking the piss out of everyone who's suffered this past 20 months, they have no respect for those who've lost their lives or for those who've worked tirelessly throughout the pandemic to care for others

I honour the dead by protecting the living."

Can you take a step back and listen to yourself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No argument here just do what they have got to do.

We have lived with masks and passports for ages and it is really no biggie (for us)!!

Best of luck UK

T

France, which has had strict mask mandates and vaccine passports in place for months, just hit its highest COVID case rate since April.

Their solution? Make more school kids wear masks and enforce vaccine passports in outdoor areas. Genius."

Precisely.

None of this shit works. It's futile to fight nature in these arbitrary ways.

Stick to the one thing that actually is proven to work - vaccines. The rest is nonsense.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"We will continue to wear masks and be sensible because it's the right thing to do for us and to protect others. However if Plan B is put in place I don't expect people to comply given the way that those who put these rules in place constantly flout them then don't have the bollocks to face questions and criticism. They're just taking the piss out of everyone who's suffered this past 20 months, they have no respect for those who've lost their lives or for those who've worked tirelessly throughout the pandemic to care for others

I honour the dead by protecting the living.

Can you take a step back and listen to yourself?"

Ok. I'm listening.

I'm sorry if what I say troubles you, but I'm expressing my values. Which are, surprisingly, not altered when met with disdain from strangers online.

This is how I live. This is how I've always lived. If you don't like it you're welcome to take a flying leap.

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By *litheroevoyeurMan
over a year ago

Clitheroe


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate… "

He can't because if he truly believes it is about control then he will have thrown away his mobile phone, tablet etc and gone off grid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate…

There is no scientific data stating that vaccine passports help stop the spread… "

My question was about your comment regarding "Control" - can you elaborate or not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate…

He can't because if he truly believes it is about control then he will have thrown away his mobile phone, tablet etc and gone off grid."

Yep, exactly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control "

Then you won't be going anywhere.

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By *woodcplCouple
over a year ago

Borehamwood


"Boris can f@@k right of now, I will not comply. People need to wake up."

Yep - the sheep will comply though !

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By *an JuniperoCouple
over a year ago

North East


"Can’t imagine the majority of people would take this too well. Introducing new restrictions in the wake of getting caught breaking restrictions.

They laughed about the party and they’ll be laughing again if people stand for this.

Their heads need to roll."

I think we all know that probably won’t happen.

One person will be made the fall guy and publicly shamed and the rest will probably have a secret party to celebrate.

It’ll come out again in a few months and we can just repeat the cycle.

Anyway, I’m off to Barnard Castle…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Boris can f@@k right of now, I will not comply. People need to wake up."

Enjoy that £100 fine

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate…

There is no scientific data stating that vaccine passports help stop the spread…

My question was about your comment regarding "Control" - can you elaborate or not?

"

That was elaborating you just can’t connect the dots … so I will do it for you

If there is no scientific data stating vaccine passports stop the spread , then why would they implement them if it wasn’t purely for control? As it clearly isn’t for health reasons as it doesn’t stop the spread. I’m just following the science

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Can’t imagine the majority of people would take this too well. Introducing new restrictions in the wake of getting caught breaking restrictions.

They laughed about the party and they’ll be laughing again if people stand for this.

Their heads need to roll.

I think we all know that probably won’t happen.

One person will be made the fall guy and publicly shamed and the rest will probably have a secret party to celebrate.

It’ll come out again in a few months and we can just repeat the cycle.

Anyway, I’m off to Barnard Castle…"

At some stage more has to happen. They have to be prosecuted.

Or else this will result in civil unrest - from both sides. (If we join forces, don't worry, I'll disable the valve on my FFP2 so I don't shed on you )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate…

There is no scientific data stating that vaccine passports help stop the spread…

My question was about your comment regarding "Control" - can you elaborate or not?

That was elaborating you just can’t connect the dots … so I will do it for you

If there is no scientific data stating vaccine passports stop the spread , then why would they implement them if it wasn’t purely for control? As it clearly isn’t for health reasons as it doesn’t stop the spread. I’m just following the science "

You've spent most of this week making up the science for your own agenda. As previously mentioned if you're worried about control then perhaps it would be better for you to get off the grid

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Boris can f@@k right of now, I will not comply. People need to wake up."

Bingo!

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Does anyone know if this new African variant is any worse than flu?

If it isn't then new restrictions will be a farce and will be seen as such

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Does anyone know if this new African variant is any worse than flu?

If it isn't then new restrictions will be a farce and will be seen as such"

I'd follow the experts at WHO... It might be or then again it might not be.. It might evade the vaccines but they should work OK.. Or not.. Panic... Oh hang on.. No Don't panic..

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

They're about to impose vaccine passports, which haven't worked anywhere in the world, and which their own study said don't work, to fight a variant which has killed precisely nobody in the world.

Wake me up when this nightmare ends.

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By *an JuniperoCouple
over a year ago

North East


"Can’t imagine the majority of people would take this too well. Introducing new restrictions in the wake of getting caught breaking restrictions.

They laughed about the party and they’ll be laughing again if people stand for this.

Their heads need to roll.

I think we all know that probably won’t happen.

One person will be made the fall guy and publicly shamed and the rest will probably have a secret party to celebrate.

It’ll come out again in a few months and we can just repeat the cycle.

Anyway, I’m off to Barnard Castle…

At some stage more has to happen. They have to be prosecuted.

Or else this will result in civil unrest - from both sides. (If we join forces, don't worry, I'll disable the valve on my FFP2 so I don't shed on you )"

Honestly, you’re too kind.

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By *nasuitMan
over a year ago

Ruislip

So is plan B the destracter for the Christmas party or was the Christmas party the distracter for plan B, I've lost track now?

Remember the Tory mantra - it's always party before country, then it all makes sense.

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By *an JuniperoCouple
over a year ago

North East


"Does anyone know if this new African variant is any worse than flu?

If it isn't then new restrictions will be a farce and will be seen as such

I'd follow the experts at WHO... It might be or then again it might not be.. It might evade the vaccines but they should work OK.. Or not.. Panic... Oh hang on.. No Don't panic.. "

Sounds like they’ve taken a leaf from Boris’ “go to work but don’t go to work” book haha.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs


"They're about to impose vaccine passports, which haven't worked anywhere in the world, and which their own study said don't work, to fight a variant which has killed precisely nobody in the world.

Wake me up when this nightmare ends."

Lots of people are getting more sceptical

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They're about to impose vaccine passports, which haven't worked anywhere in the world, and which their own study said don't work, to fight a variant which has killed precisely nobody in the world.

Wake me up when this nightmare ends."

Well said.

This omicron variant sure has been convenient for the government and the scientists who don't want to let go of the control they have over our lives now.

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By *1ueWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Plan B .... Might have something to do with it being flu season, GPs still having reduced patient appointments so they end up in A&E

And us front line NHS workers being on our fecking knees due to overwork & staff shortages

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

He said in 3 weeks he would assess and know this variants impact! It’s not 3 weeks . Why today ??

I wonder lol

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

Those angry at Boris for his government violating the restrictions and laughing about it will gleefully present their vaccine passports and dutifully obey all new restrictions when Boris tells them to.

This is Twilight Zone madness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Boris can f@@k right of now, I will not comply. People need to wake up.

Bingo! "

They'll hit you right in the wallet and you'll do as you're bloody-well told. As will most people. It's complete tyranny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Plan B .... Might have something to do with it being flu season, GPs still having reduced patient appointments so they end up in A&E

And us front line NHS workers being on our fecking knees due to overwork & staff shortages

"

Behave. There no justification other than to bury the party news.

The early data is showing Omicron has lower effects, not higher.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

Had both jabs and a booster so if im not safe from it now i never will be. so any more restrictions can do one,will be with family this xmas wether they say we can or not

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Had both jabs and a booster so if im not safe from it now i never will be. so any more restrictions can do one,will be with family this xmas wether they say we can or not"

I hear you. Just be mindful of any olduns... My mum was done for last Xmas. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"Had both jabs and a booster so if im not safe from it now i never will be. so any more restrictions can do one,will be with family this xmas wether they say we can or not

I hear you. Just be mindful of any olduns... My mum was done for last Xmas. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. "
only one who is old is my old girl and she wants a xmas with us all this year after sitting on her own last year a hundred miles away

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North


"Boris can f@@k right of now, I will not comply. People need to wake up."

Wake up to what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I first realised that I was governed by people considered to be elitist, a prime minster was forced to resign due to the Christine Keeler scandal, when other ministers where caught doing wrong they resigned.

why because they had to lead by example and there was no excuse if caught doing wrong, they would apologise and resign.

now I see there is an excuse I wasn't there, I had no idea, it wasn't my fault and keep their jobs the only exception was matt handcock.

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By *ewcouple36Couple
over a year ago

leicestershire

Its a joke...

The government can do as they please and we have to do what they say ie rule of 6.... mask.....work from home.....

But they get to hold Xmas party's ect but we wasn't allowed to mix with family last Xmas

We were ment to have family down from Scotland last year but they wasn't allowed to travel...

We need to wake up and start putting are foots down

These mps are taking us working people for a bunch of twats......

We need to have more of a backbone and start rioting

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By *lderguy4uMan
over a year ago

wirral

Dwp bosses are starting to get people to work from home 3days a week

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s laughable when people say they won’t comply because others don’t how is that a sensible decision? I’m sure covid appreciate that line of defence.

I will abide by rules for me and others. "

Same here.

Because one person flours the rules does not give me carte blanche to do the same.

Anyone who takes the "he didn't so I wont" posture is a bloody idiot.

Winston

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Boris can f@@k right of now, I will not comply. People need to wake up.

Wake up to what? "

Wake up its a beautiful morning?

Wake up to happiness?

Wake up little susie?

Wake me up before you go go.?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Had both jabs and a booster so if im not safe from it now i never will be. so any more restrictions can do one,will be with family this xmas wether they say we can or not

I hear you. Just be mindful of any olduns... My mum was done for last Xmas. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. only one who is old is my old girl and she wants a xmas with us all this year after sitting on her own last year a hundred miles away"

Yes I wonder what David Attenborough will have to say when he does his documentary on the covid crisis in 50 years time.

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By *scobar67Man
over a year ago

glasgow


"This may be the party deflection…

Rumour doing the round is that boris may announce the covid plan b is going to be introduced…

Working for home where possible and vaccine passports coming…..

Let the arguments begin…. Again…."

Well I won't be taking his or any other person from that govt advice!!

Was never about saving lives always been about money/ controlling people

Bunch of clowns

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed


"This may be the party deflection…

Rumour doing the round is that boris may announce the covid plan b is going to be introduced…

Working for home where possible and vaccine passports coming…..

Let the arguments begin…. Again…."

I think the data is still unclear. Whilst the new varient is more infectious it's yet to be known whether it is more dangerous if people have had the vacinne or have been infected already.

We have to remember our immune system is more than antibodies. Having dealt with a similar foreign body even if it can recognise the new varient exactly it has a blueprint to work from and measures it can deploy.

If the data causes concern responses will be needed but let's see the data first.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate…

There is no scientific data stating that vaccine passports help stop the spread…

My question was about your comment regarding "Control" - can you elaborate or not?

That was elaborating you just can’t connect the dots … so I will do it for you

If there is no scientific data stating vaccine passports stop the spread , then why would they implement them if it wasn’t purely for control? As it clearly isn’t for health reasons as it doesn’t stop the spread. I’m just following the science "

Correct vaccine passports wont stop the spread of the virus amongst the vaccinated. The idea behind vaccine passport is to prevent unvaccinated people mixing in large groups inside bars, restaurants, gigs etc. This strategy is thought to be a defence against the unvaccinated filling up the NHS beds.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Just had a quick look and whilst the infections trend is going up'ish, the death trend is down.

The key bit I can't see is hospitalisations, if this gets too high and impacts other services being delivered that is when other measures will need to be considered.

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By *erlins5Man
over a year ago

South Fife

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate…

There is no scientific data stating that vaccine passports help stop the spread…

My question was about your comment regarding "Control" - can you elaborate or not?

That was elaborating you just can’t connect the dots … so I will do it for you

If there is no scientific data stating vaccine passports stop the spread , then why would they implement them if it wasn’t purely for control? As it clearly isn’t for health reasons as it doesn’t stop the spread. I’m just following the science

Correct vaccine passports wont stop the spread of the virus amongst the vaccinated. The idea behind vaccine passport is to prevent unvaccinated people mixing in large groups inside bars, restaurants, gigs etc. This strategy is thought to be a defence against the unvaccinated filling up the NHS beds.

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Yeh and their own report stated it doesn’t work

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich


"No argument here just do what they have got to do.

We have lived with masks and passports for ages and it is really no biggie (for us)!!

Best of luck UK

T

France, which has had strict mask mandates and vaccine passports in place for months, just hit its highest COVID case rate since April.

Their solution? Make more school kids wear masks and enforce vaccine passports in outdoor areas. Genius."

Could it be that masks and vaccine passports are not 100%, but they are partly efficient and therefore part of a suite of measures that all help?

In other words, how much worse would France's figures have been without them?

Vaccines are the closest thing to a silver bullet, but as every country in the world knows, there is no perfect solution. Else it would have been deployed.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate…

There is no scientific data stating that vaccine passports help stop the spread…

My question was about your comment regarding "Control" - can you elaborate or not?

That was elaborating you just can’t connect the dots … so I will do it for you

If there is no scientific data stating vaccine passports stop the spread , then why would they implement them if it wasn’t purely for control? As it clearly isn’t for health reasons as it doesn’t stop the spread. I’m just following the science

Correct vaccine passports wont stop the spread of the virus amongst the vaccinated. The idea behind vaccine passport is to prevent unvaccinated people mixing in large groups inside bars, restaurants, gigs etc. This strategy is thought to be a defence against the unvaccinated filling up the NHS beds.

"

If that is the case, should we extend the passport scheme to include other factors (such as obesity) likely to increase one's chances of needing NHS care in the event of contracting covid?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate…

There is no scientific data stating that vaccine passports help stop the spread…

My question was about your comment regarding "Control" - can you elaborate or not?

That was elaborating you just can’t connect the dots … so I will do it for you

If there is no scientific data stating vaccine passports stop the spread , then why would they implement them if it wasn’t purely for control? As it clearly isn’t for health reasons as it doesn’t stop the spread. I’m just following the science

Correct vaccine passports wont stop the spread of the virus amongst the vaccinated. The idea behind vaccine passport is to prevent unvaccinated people mixing in large groups inside bars, restaurants, gigs etc. This strategy is thought to be a defence against the unvaccinated filling up the NHS beds.

If that is the case, should we extend the passport scheme to include other factors (such as obesity) likely to increase one's chances of needing NHS care in the event of contracting covid?"

That's an interesting idea, but generally people don't need to see an app on my phone to know that I'm fat.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

There will probably be minimal changes, so it's perhaps easier for people to adjust to. Let's wait and see.

Plan B always seemed very light touch

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"

If that is the case, should we extend the passport scheme to include other factors (such as obesity) likely to increase one's chances of needing NHS care in the event of contracting covid?"

Lets not leave every other chances of needing hospital treatment in your argument , drinkers/ sports injuries/ smokers/ car accidents ( it is always someones fault ) tripping up on my high heels etc etc

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By *andlingswingersCouple
over a year ago

Woodbridge


"

I'm not doing it for the government. I'm doing it for my community. "

Which is what it's all about. It's massively reassuring to see so many people here who get that it's not just all about them, it's about everyone.

Yes, I understand that a tiny % of people really do have asthma to the extent that masks concern them. There aren't any excuses for the rest who won't/don't - apart from the badge they don't need to wear.

It says: I Don't Care About You.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

It probably is a deflection but if it is then it is a strange time to announce it after what has been happening the last week about parties etc. I am not sure they will get the people who were on the fence about restrictions wanting to do it now even if it means cutting off their nose to spite their face

We will just carry on doing what we have been doing, being careful what we are doing and keeping away from people who are potentially not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

China and Japan introduced Citzern Passports a few years ago and it has evolved from a health status app into an app which includes their pay, tax, driving allowances, housing status based on a points system.

example a good citizen who goes to work, commits no crime and adheres to the state system may be allowed more points and enter into more public spaces.

A bad Citizen may have points removed and less access to public services and less points means less money, more tax, fines etc.

Sound impossible just google Austria, Germany, Australia and France as they are doing it now.

and it was allowed by the public of those countries because they were told it would help hold back covid.

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By *rego69Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate…

He can't because if he truly believes it is about control then he will have thrown away his mobile phone, tablet etc and gone off grid.

Yep, exactly! "

He will be wanting his pension too no doubt and it will be paid into his bank !

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate…

There is no scientific data stating that vaccine passports help stop the spread…

My question was about your comment regarding "Control" - can you elaborate or not?

That was elaborating you just can’t connect the dots … so I will do it for you

If there is no scientific data stating vaccine passports stop the spread , then why would they implement them if it wasn’t purely for control? As it clearly isn’t for health reasons as it doesn’t stop the spread. I’m just following the science

Correct vaccine passports wont stop the spread of the virus amongst the vaccinated. The idea behind vaccine passport is to prevent unvaccinated people mixing in large groups inside bars, restaurants, gigs etc. This strategy is thought to be a defence against the unvaccinated filling up the NHS beds.

If that is the case, should we extend the passport scheme to include other factors (such as obesity) likely to increase one's chances of needing NHS care in the event of contracting covid?"

That decision is above my pay grade.

I think the best thing we can do is not get wound up over something that hasn't happened yet.

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By *tstillworksMan
over a year ago

Darlington


"Does anyone know if this new African variant is any worse than flu?

If it isn't then new restrictions will be a farce and will be seen as such

I'd follow the experts at WHO... It might be or then again it might not be.. It might evade the vaccines but they should work OK.. Or not.. Panic... Oh hang on.. No Don't panic.. "

Would that be the experts who don’t even know the definition of the word ‘Vaccine’

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By *tstillworksMan
over a year ago

Darlington


"China and Japan introduced Citzern Passports a few years ago and it has evolved from a health status app into an app which includes their pay, tax, driving allowances, housing status based on a points system.

example a good citizen who goes to work, commits no crime and adheres to the state system may be allowed more points and enter into more public spaces.

A bad Citizen may have points removed and less access to public services and less points means less money, more tax, fines etc.

Sound impossible just google Austria, Germany, Australia and France as they are doing it now.

and it was allowed by the public of those countries because they were told it would help hold back covid.

"

Sounds like a deleted scene from Demolition Man

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"China and Japan introduced Citzern Passports a few years ago and it has evolved from a health status app into an app which includes their pay, tax, driving allowances, housing status based on a points system.

example a good citizen who goes to work, commits no crime and adheres to the state system may be allowed more points and enter into more public spaces.

A bad Citizen may have points removed and less access to public services and less points means less money, more tax, fines etc.

Sound impossible just google Austria, Germany, Australia and France as they are doing it now.

and it was allowed by the public of those countries because they were told it would help hold back covid.

"

Yep social credit score slippery slope

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

Deeply shocking that people are so shocked especially the crowd that voted for a proven liar and now all aghast that he's a liar and all the people who sacked him or worked with him weren't the liars at all and down the rabbit hole we go ! and someone who has been proven to be utterly unable to organise a piss up in brewery can't actually organise said piss up in said brewery ( the UK) deeply deeply shocking !!!

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By *tstillworksMan
over a year ago

Darlington


" Deeply shocking that people are so shocked especially the crowd that voted for a proven liar and now all aghast that he's a liar and all the people who sacked him or worked with him weren't the liars at all and down the rabbit hole we go ! and someone who has been proven to be utterly unable to organise a piss up in brewery can't actually organise said piss up in said brewery ( the UK) deeply deeply shocking !!! "

Spot on mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Johnson's a serial liar. He was sacked multiple times for lying. And now he's embroiled in a scandal made worse by his lying. So... no surprise really.

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By *tstillworksMan
over a year ago

Darlington


"Johnson's a serial liar. He was sacked multiple times for lying. And now he's embroiled in a scandal made worse by his lying. So... no surprise really."

He’s getting the middle finger off me but not where he probably likes or wants it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"China and Japan introduced Citzern Passports a few years ago and it has evolved from a health status app into an app which includes their pay, tax, driving allowances, housing status based on a points system.

example a good citizen who goes to work, commits no crime and adheres to the state system may be allowed more points and enter into more public spaces.

A bad Citizen may have points removed and less access to public services and less points means less money, more tax, fines etc.

Sound impossible just google Austria, Germany, Australia and France as they are doing it now.

and it was allowed by the public of those countries because they were told it would help hold back covid.

Sounds like a deleted scene from Demolition Man "

yes I see your point, V for victory comes to mind, and all those nazi war films asking for papers where are your papers. seems scary

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"

(first post)

We will continue to wear masks and be sensible because it's the right thing to do for us and to protect others. However if Plan B is put in place I don't expect people to comply given the way that those who put these rules in place constantly flout them then don't have the bollocks to face questions and criticism. They're just taking the piss out of everyone who's suffered this past 20 months, they have no respect for those who've lost their lives or for those who've worked tirelessly throughout the pandemic to care for others

(second post)

I honour the dead by protecting the living.

(your post)

Can you take a step back and listen to yourself?"

(My post)

As the text you are replying to was provided by at least two different people, which one are you suggesting steps back and listens to themself?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"China and Japan introduced Citzern Passports a few years ago and it has evolved from a health status app into an app which includes their pay, tax, driving allowances, housing status based on a points system.

example a good citizen who goes to work, commits no crime and adheres to the state system may be allowed more points and enter into more public spaces.

A bad Citizen may have points removed and less access to public services and less points means less money, more tax, fines etc.

Sound impossible just google Austria, Germany, Australia and France as they are doing it now.

and it was allowed by the public of those countries because they were told it would help hold back covid.

Yep social credit score slippery slope "

I like the idea that people should be expected to contribute to their society and that there should be consequences for one's actions. Label that anyway you want.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control "

ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

You might find it’s more a covid passport rather than a vaccine one, ie negative test will suffice as well, which personally I think is better

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By *razytimesinloveCouple
over a year ago

SW Scotland


"This may be the party deflection…

Rumour doing the round is that boris may announce the covid plan b is going to be introduced…

Working for home where possible and vaccine passports coming…..

Let the arguments begin…. Again…."

Let the pointless rumor mill start again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"China and Japan introduced Citzern Passports a few years ago and it has evolved from a health status app into an app which includes their pay, tax, driving allowances, housing status based on a points system.

example a good citizen who goes to work, commits no crime and adheres to the state system may be allowed more points and enter into more public spaces.

A bad Citizen may have points removed and less access to public services and less points means less money, more tax, fines etc.

Sound impossible just google Austria, Germany, Australia and France as they are doing it now.

and it was allowed by the public of those countries because they were told it would help hold back covid.

Yep social credit score slippery slope

I like the idea that people should be expected to contribute to their society and that there should be consequences for one's actions. Label that anyway you want. "

Thats how it starts.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

I'm extremely wary of those trying to make party mileage out of this.

ALL the established parties are pro-lockdown. Best to see it in terms of authoritarianism or liberty

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I'm extremely wary of those trying to make party mileage out of this.

ALL the established parties are pro-lockdown. Best to see it in terms of authoritarianism or liberty"

I see it as public health versus libertarianism *shrug*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it's a bit bonkers that large get togethers are happening still. Especially those without masks or LFT evidence"

That’s not true. I’ve just spent 3 days with 5,000 people. We had to show negative LFT

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I'm extremely wary of those trying to make party mileage out of this.

ALL the established parties are pro-lockdown. Best to see it in terms of authoritarianism or liberty

I see it as public health versus libertarianism *shrug*"

Free to stay healthy?

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

The grim reapers will be back soon with their doom laden graphs

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs


"I'm extremely wary of those trying to make party mileage out of this.

ALL the established parties are pro-lockdown. Best to see it in terms of authoritarianism or liberty

I see it as public health versus libertarianism *shrug*"

The thing that has struck me is how the people keen to use coronavirus to attack Boris/the government are all in favour of even MORE controls.

Those of us who want more freedom are just not represented in the public square where the 'debate' is either authoritarianism or even more authoritarianism

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By *rufflesCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"This may be the party deflection…

Rumour doing the round is that boris may announce the covid plan b is going to be introduced…

Working for home where possible and vaccine passports coming…..

Let the arguments begin…. Again…."

Is this "hot news" straight from your chrystal ball...or is it simply a case that you watched the BBC lunchtime news??

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I'm extremely wary of those trying to make party mileage out of this.

ALL the established parties are pro-lockdown. Best to see it in terms of authoritarianism or liberty

I see it as public health versus libertarianism *shrug*

Free to stay healthy? "

All society is a balance of protection and liberty. Where that balance lies is the stuff of every political debate ever.

What's more important right now, to me, is that the government believe they're above the law and are actively laughing at us about it. Even more so than they've already done.

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By *weetandHungMan
over a year ago

liverpool

He can stick his restrictions and plan B C D where the sun doesn’t shine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He can stick his restrictions and plan B C D where the sun doesn’t shine "

Won't be seeing you in the pub then

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"China and Japan introduced Citzern Passports a few years ago and it has evolved from a health status app into an app which includes their pay, tax, driving allowances, housing status based on a points system.

example a good citizen who goes to work, commits no crime and adheres to the state system may be allowed more points and enter into more public spaces.

A bad Citizen may have points removed and less access to public services and less points means less money, more tax, fines etc.

Sound impossible just google Austria, Germany, Australia and France as they are doing it now.

and it was allowed by the public of those countries because they were told it would help hold back covid.

Yep social credit score slippery slope

I like the idea that people should be expected to contribute to their society and that there should be consequences for one's actions. Label that anyway you want. "

Go live in China … we don’t want that here … the land of the free

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He can stick his restrictions and plan B C D where the sun doesn’t shine

Won't be seeing you in the pub then "

After lockdown my friend wanted to go to his local so I went along, he brought two lager shandies that cost him 10 pounds Wtf.

I went to southport Wetherspoons 8.50 Wtf has anyone else noticed a price hike after lockdown?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs


"China and Japan introduced Citzern Passports a few years ago and it has evolved from a health status app into an app which includes their pay, tax, driving allowances, housing status based on a points system.

example a good citizen who goes to work, commits no crime and adheres to the state system may be allowed more points and enter into more public spaces.

A bad Citizen may have points removed and less access to public services and less points means less money, more tax, fines etc.

Sound impossible just google Austria, Germany, Australia and France as they are doing it now.

and it was allowed by the public of those countries because they were told it would help hold back covid.

Yep social credit score slippery slope

I like the idea that people should be expected to contribute to their society and that there should be consequences for one's actions. Label that anyway you want.

Go live in China … we don’t want that here … the land of the free "

There are now 9m Chinese people who are unable to buy tickets to travel because of their political opinions. The social credit system allows the Chinese government to do this.

Very dark times. Too many people do not value liberty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The grim reapers will be back soon with their doom laden graphs "

Yep, right on cue SAGE have produced a forecast saying there COULD (key word) be 1,000 hospitalisations a day by the end of December if new restrictions aren't introduced. Despite the fact not a single person has been hospitalised from this new variant yet, and the fact they admit they still don't know how severe it is (although all the signs are it's milder).

How are people still falling for this b*llshit?

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By *weetandHungMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"He can stick his restrictions and plan B C D where the sun doesn’t shine

Won't be seeing you in the pub then "

wanna bet just say im exempt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"China and Japan introduced Citzern Passports a few years ago and it has evolved from a health status app into an app which includes their pay, tax, driving allowances, housing status based on a points system.

example a good citizen who goes to work, commits no crime and adheres to the state system may be allowed more points and enter into more public spaces.

A bad Citizen may have points removed and less access to public services and less points means less money, more tax, fines etc.

Sound impossible just google Austria, Germany, Australia and France as they are doing it now.

and it was allowed by the public of those countries because they were told it would help hold back covid.

Yep social credit score slippery slope

I like the idea that people should be expected to contribute to their society and that there should be consequences for one's actions. Label that anyway you want.

Go live in China … we don’t want that here … the land of the free "

EErr no I won't be doing that.

Free land of, interesting USA phrase.

I am saying that I do not want a health passport, as I have seen it develop into a tool of control for those who do not wish to comply to government instructions.

I am saying I want my freedom and wish others would not be slept walked into this plan.

this is a system that will whip you into line without appeal, or due process, you and I will have no say.

google it, the information is out there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"China and Japan introduced Citzern Passports a few years ago and it has evolved from a health status app into an app which includes their pay, tax, driving allowances, housing status based on a points system.

example a good citizen who goes to work, commits no crime and adheres to the state system may be allowed more points and enter into more public spaces.

A bad Citizen may have points removed and less access to public services and less points means less money, more tax, fines etc.

Sound impossible just google Austria, Germany, Australia and France as they are doing it now.

and it was allowed by the public of those countries because they were told it would help hold back covid.

Yep social credit score slippery slope

I like the idea that people should be expected to contribute to their society and that there should be consequences for one's actions. Label that anyway you want.

Go live in China … we don’t want that here … the land of the free

There are now 9m Chinese people who are unable to buy tickets to travel because of their political opinions. The social credit system allows the Chinese government to do this.

Very dark times. Too many people do not value liberty"

scary times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He can stick his restrictions and plan B C D where the sun doesn’t shine

Won't be seeing you in the pub then

wanna bet just say im exempt "

Oh how very grown up of you. You do know that a landlord can just deny you entry? Same as a shop or any business.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Really? Are people now arguing over a rumour? Anyone would think the OP enjoys starting threads just to watch the fall-out

How about waiting to see what happens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Won’t be complying with this … vaccine passports don’t stop Covid just ask France … not about health and all about control

Control? Please elaborate…

There is no scientific data stating that vaccine passports help stop the spread…

My question was about your comment regarding "Control" - can you elaborate or not?

That was elaborating you just can’t connect the dots … so I will do it for you

If there is no scientific data stating vaccine passports stop the spread , then why would they implement them if it wasn’t purely for control? As it clearly isn’t for health reasons as it doesn’t stop the spread. I’m just following the science

Correct vaccine passports wont stop the spread of the virus amongst the vaccinated. The idea behind vaccine passport is to prevent unvaccinated people mixing in large groups inside bars, restaurants, gigs etc. This strategy is thought to be a defence against the unvaccinated filling up the NHS beds.

If that is the case, should we extend the passport scheme to include other factors (such as obesity) likely to increase one's chances of needing NHS care in the event of contracting covid?"

Not the best analogy there.

You don't catch obesity from the fumes off someone else's Greggs.

Winston.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Not going into lockdown again not wearing a masks can not work from home so let's get on..

Got my coivd passport I done my bit can't ask anymore more..

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"China and Japan introduced Citzern Passports a few years ago and it has evolved from a health status app into an app which includes their pay, tax, driving allowances, housing status based on a points system.

example a good citizen who goes to work, commits no crime and adheres to the state system may be allowed more points and enter into more public spaces.

A bad Citizen may have points removed and less access to public services and less points means less money, more tax, fines etc.

Sound impossible just google Austria, Germany, Australia and France as they are doing it now.

and it was allowed by the public of those countries because they were told it would help hold back covid.

Yep social credit score slippery slope

I like the idea that people should be expected to contribute to their society and that there should be consequences for one's actions. Label that anyway you want.

Go live in China … we don’t want that here … the land of the free

EErr no I won't be doing that.

Free land of, interesting USA phrase.

I am saying that I do not want a health passport, as I have seen it develop into a tool of control for those who do not wish to comply to government instructions.

I am saying I want my freedom and wish others would not be slept walked into this plan.

this is a system that will whip you into line without appeal, or due process, you and I will have no say.

google it, the information is out there."

Other non biased search engines are available...

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By *an JuniperoCouple
over a year ago

North East


"

If that is the case, should we extend the passport scheme to include other factors (such as obesity) likely to increase one's chances of needing NHS care in the event of contracting covid?

Not the best analogy there.

You don't catch obesity from the fumes off someone else's Greggs.

Winston.

"

So is the aim to prevent beds from filling up or not?

Regardless of contagiousness, if you want people to make active choices to keep themselves from unnecessarily taking up hospital beds then you have to include everyone, not just the unvaccinated.

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

WHO says Omicron variant is "no worse" than others.

The WHO's emergencies director Michael Ryan said "if anything, the direction is towards less severity."

Better impose more restrictions then, makes sense to me.

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

Vast majority support the same government that made a mockery of lockdown rules imposing more lockdown rules on them.

Utterly farcical.

Keep complying, idiots.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Covid news conference at 6pm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Covid news conference at 6pm."

Anything to distract from Partygate. That's what it should be called.

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By *weetandHungMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"He can stick his restrictions and plan B C D where the sun doesn’t shine

Won't be seeing you in the pub then

wanna bet just say im exempt

Oh how very grown up of you. You do know that a landlord can just deny you entry? Same as a shop or any business. "

Highly unlikely, they would just loose money, anyhow why should we comply following Boris example

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Meanwhile, he plus cronies will be doing what the fuck they like

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By *ired_upMan
over a year ago

ashton


"He can stick his restrictions and plan B C D where the sun doesn’t shine

Won't be seeing you in the pub then

wanna bet just say im exempt

Oh how very grown up of you. You do know that a landlord can just deny you entry? Same as a shop or any business.

Highly unlikely, they would just loose money, anyhow why should we comply following Boris example"

Because I don't set my behaviour against a proven liar.

I go by what is right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He can stick his restrictions and plan B C D where the sun doesn’t shine

Won't be seeing you in the pub then

wanna bet just say im exempt

Oh how very grown up of you. You do know that a landlord can just deny you entry? Same as a shop or any business.

Highly unlikely, they would just loose money, anyhow why should we comply following Boris example

Because I don't set my behaviour against a proven liar.

I go by what is right. "

Yep, a grown up answer rather than a petulant one

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"

I honour the dead by protecting the living."

That is a brilliant mantra.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Going back to working from home, if you can. Masks to be worn to most indoor venues.Covid pass mandatory for entry to nightclubs and other venues.

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

Vaccine passports have arrived … remember guys … you are unvaccinated unless you take every single jab for the foreseeable future.

Get on that hamster wheel

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North

And there you have it

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By *arlolad71 999Man
over a year ago

newton aycliffe

Plan b is here.ffs

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By *wing66Couple
over a year ago

Burton-upon-trent

Are the clubs affected by the news? Will we be in Chams in our sexy undies with a face mask on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pile of wank. No science behind this at all. What science they do have (aka Prof Lockdown’s predictions) has all been proved wrong in the past.

And covid isn’t a big thing. Not in my hospital anyway. About 30 cases in 950 beds (and a lot of them happen to have covid as well as a broken leg etc - they’re not in because of Covid).

This is an overreaction to a population which has had the shit scared out of it. Very hard to unscare people which is why there are so many mask zealots etc.

Bracing for incoming but I really don’t care.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pile of wank. No science behind this at all. What science they do have (aka Prof Lockdown’s predictions) has all been proved wrong in the past.

And covid isn’t a big thing. Not in my hospital anyway. About 30 cases in 950 beds (and a lot of them happen to have covid as well as a broken leg etc - they’re not in because of Covid).

This is an overreaction to a population which has had the shit scared out of it. Very hard to unscare people which is why there are so many mask zealots etc.

Bracing for incoming but I really don’t care. "

Which hospitals are you ‘in charge ‘ off?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vaccine passports have arrived … remember guys … you are unvaccinated unless you take every single jab for the foreseeable future.

Get on that hamster wheel "

Hopefully you'll enjoy your time indoors.

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

Crazy he’s just said a he may need a conversation in future about mandatory vaccination … it’s coming folks …

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Ridiculous

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"Vaccine passports have arrived … remember guys … you are unvaccinated unless you take every single jab for the foreseeable future.

Get on that hamster wheel

Hopefully you'll enjoy your time indoors. "

I’d rather be anywhere than complying with a lying government and upholding medical apartheid … you do you keep feeling smug … he who laughs last laughs longest as they say

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

More and more people finally beginning to wake up each week..

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By *ussle SproutMan
over a year ago

the middle


"More and more people finally beginning to wake up each week..

"

The great awakening

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"More and more people finally beginning to wake up each week..

"

I wake up every morning, and by being sensible, hope to continue to do so for many years to come.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vaccine passports have arrived … remember guys … you are unvaccinated unless you take every single jab for the foreseeable future.

Get on that hamster wheel

Hopefully you'll enjoy your time indoors.

I’d rather be anywhere than complying with a lying government and upholding medical apartheid … you do you keep feeling smug … he who laughs last laughs longest as they say "

Indeed they do, difficult to laugh on a ventilator...

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By *orkshireDrifterMan
over a year ago

Nafferton, nr Driffield.

Plan B is here.......

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Plan B is here......."

Yes

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

The grim reapers are back with their graphs of doom.

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

It’s just 2 weeks to flatten the curve,

It’s just two jabs for a route to freedom,

It’s just vaccinating toddlers

It’s just a booster

It’s just 5 boosters

It’s just a Vaccine passport

It’s just for your health

It’s just a vaccine mandate

It’s just … forever !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pile of wank. No science behind this at all. What science they do have (aka Prof Lockdown’s predictions) has all been proved wrong in the past.

And covid isn’t a big thing. Not in my hospital anyway. About 30 cases in 950 beds (and a lot of them happen to have covid as well as a broken leg etc - they’re not in because of Covid).

This is an overreaction to a population which has had the shit scared out of it. Very hard to unscare people which is why there are so many mask zealots etc.

Bracing for incoming but I really don’t care.

Which hospitals are you ‘in charge ‘ off? "

Don’t really want to say, although I didn’t say I was in charge of anything. I’m guilty of lazy shorthand I suppose. “The hospital I am a senior doctor in” then. Doesn’t really change the tone of what I said though.

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Pile of wank. No science behind this at all. What science they do have (aka Prof Lockdown’s predictions) has all been proved wrong in the past.

And covid isn’t a big thing. Not in my hospital anyway. About 30 cases in 950 beds (and a lot of them happen to have covid as well as a broken leg etc - they’re not in because of Covid).

This is an overreaction to a population which has had the shit scared out of it. Very hard to unscare people which is why there are so many mask zealots etc.

Bracing for incoming but I really don’t care.

Which hospitals are you ‘in charge ‘ off?

Don’t really want to say, although I didn’t say I was in charge of anything. I’m guilty of lazy shorthand I suppose. “The hospital I am a senior doctor in” then. Doesn’t really change the tone of what I said though. "

That may be due to the fact that there's a delay of around 2 weeks between infection and hospitalisation.

I hope that this version is less virulent but only time will tell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pile of wank. No science behind this at all. What science they do have (aka Prof Lockdown’s predictions) has all been proved wrong in the past.

And covid isn’t a big thing. Not in my hospital anyway. About 30 cases in 950 beds (and a lot of them happen to have covid as well as a broken leg etc - they’re not in because of Covid).

This is an overreaction to a population which has had the shit scared out of it. Very hard to unscare people which is why there are so many mask zealots etc.

Bracing for incoming but I really don’t care.

Which hospitals are you ‘in charge ‘ off?

Don’t really want to say, although I didn’t say I was in charge of anything. I’m guilty of lazy shorthand I suppose. “The hospital I am a senior doctor in” then. Doesn’t really change the tone of what I said though. "

A senior doctor? Using the term ‘pile of wank’? So with your ‘knowledge, experience and qualifications’ you don’t think this new variant is a concern?

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By *udewhennudeMan
over a year ago

newport


"He can stick his restrictions and plan B C D where the sun doesn’t shine

Won't be seeing you in the pub then

wanna bet just say im exempt

Oh how very grown up of you. You do know that a landlord can just deny you entry? Same as a shop or any business. "
he’s going to get a shock, no one is exempt from a Covid passport unlike face masks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pile of wank. No science behind this at all. What science they do have (aka Prof Lockdown’s predictions) has all been proved wrong in the past.

A senior doctor? Using the term ‘pile of wank’? So with your ‘knowledge, experience and qualifications’ you don’t think this new variant is a concern? "

The new variant causes mild disease. It spreads but we have good vaccination coverage. Why not shield the vulnerable and let others get on with their lives?

The issues the NHS has today are the result of lockdown. Massive backlogs and conditions presenting which either should have been managed earlier but weren’t (due to lockdown) or people being unable to access timely primary care (due to lockdown / various primary care policies). Covid is not the reason ambulances are queuing out the doors and people have to wait ages in EDs.

Pile of wank - yes, people with post-nominals occasionally use language like that. We don’t all speak in Latin any more…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pile of wank. No science behind this at all. What science they do have (aka Prof Lockdown’s predictions) has all been proved wrong in the past.

A senior doctor? Using the term ‘pile of wank’? So with your ‘knowledge, experience and qualifications’ you don’t think this new variant is a concern?

The new variant causes mild disease. It spreads but we have good vaccination coverage. Why not shield the vulnerable and let others get on with their lives?

The issues the NHS has today are the result of lockdown. Massive backlogs and conditions presenting which either should have been managed earlier but weren’t (due to lockdown) or people being unable to access timely primary care (due to lockdown / various primary care policies). Covid is not the reason ambulances are queuing out the doors and people have to wait ages in EDs.

Pile of wank - yes, people with post-nominals occasionally use language like that. We don’t all speak in Latin any more…"

Well, your the expert, so I can’t argue with anything you have stated, time will tell in this one.

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By *ondoner27Man
over a year ago

london

They are never going to let us be free again

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"They are never going to let us be free again"

It’s just 2 weeks to flatten the curve,

It’s just two jabs for a route to freedom,

It’s just vaccinating toddlers

It’s just a booster

It’s just 5 boosters

It’s just a Vaccine passport

It’s just for your health

It’s just a vaccine mandate

It’s just temporary

It’s just … forever !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are never going to let us be free again"

They?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are never going to let us be free again

It’s just 2 weeks to flatten the curve,

It’s just two jabs for a route to freedom,

It’s just vaccinating toddlers

It’s just a booster

It’s just 5 boosters

It’s just a Vaccine passport

It’s just for your health

It’s just a vaccine mandate

It’s just temporary

It’s just … forever !"

What is the alternative? Don’t get me wrong though , this government are pathetic

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Pile of wank. No science behind this at all. What science they do have (aka Prof Lockdown’s predictions) has all been proved wrong in the past.

And covid isn’t a big thing. Not in my hospital anyway. About 30 cases in 950 beds (and a lot of them happen to have covid as well as a broken leg etc - they’re not in because of Covid).

This is an overreaction to a population which has had the shit scared out of it. Very hard to unscare people which is why there are so many mask zealots etc.

Bracing for incoming but I really don’t care. "

There is something the health secretary said in parliament that the PM didn’t say in his press conference

“Although the omicron official number is 500, because they know there is community spread, the actual figure out there may be 20 times larger…… and there could be as many as a MILLION new cases in the next 7-10 days!”

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"

If that is the case, should we extend the passport scheme to include other factors (such as obesity) likely to increase one's chances of needing NHS care in the event of contracting covid?

Lets not leave every other chances of needing hospital treatment in your argument , drinkers/ sports injuries/ smokers/ car accidents ( it is always someones fault ) tripping up on my high heels etc etc"

You left out motorcyclists and contact sports, those risk taking daredevils are such a burden on our doctors and nurses.

__

The serious point to the argument is that part of life is risk.

It's established that being vaccinated offers a level of protection against severity of covid but does not stop transmission.

I would not feel good living in a society which excludes people for making free and conscious decisions regarding their own body.

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"Pile of wank. No science behind this at all. What science they do have (aka Prof Lockdown’s predictions) has all been proved wrong in the past.

And covid isn’t a big thing. Not in my hospital anyway. About 30 cases in 950 beds (and a lot of them happen to have covid as well as a broken leg etc - they’re not in because of Covid).

This is an overreaction to a population which has had the shit scared out of it. Very hard to unscare people which is why there are so many mask zealots etc.

Bracing for incoming but I really don’t care.

There is something the health secretary said in parliament that the PM didn’t say in his press conference

“Although the omicron official number is 500, because they know there is community spread, the actual figure out there may be 20 times larger…… and there could be as many as a MILLION new cases in the next 7-10 days!”"

I bet there ain’t a million cases in the next 3 months lol

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The new variant causes mild disease. It spreads but we have good vaccination coverage. Why not shield the vulnerable and let others get on with their lives?

The issues the NHS has today are the result of lockdown. Massive backlogs and conditions presenting which either should have been managed earlier but weren’t (due to lockdown) or people being unable to access timely primary care (due to lockdown / various primary care policies). Covid is not the reason ambulances are queuing out the doors and people have to wait ages in EDs.

Pile of wank - yes, people with post-nominals occasionally use language like that. We don’t all speak in Latin any more…"

You are a senior doctor so you should know the Covid Passport is shielding the vulnerable, who are the unvaccinated and more likely to end up in your hospital. No vaccinations or proof of recovery no entry to crowded venues.

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands


"No argument here just do what they have got to do.

We have lived with masks and passports for ages and it is really no biggie (for us)!!

Best of luck UK

T

France, which has had strict mask mandates and vaccine passports in place for months, just hit its highest COVID case rate since April.

Their solution? Make more school kids wear masks and enforce vaccine passports in outdoor areas. Genius.

Precisely.

None of this shit works. It's futile to fight nature in these arbitrary ways.

Stick to the one thing that actually is proven to work - vaccines. The rest is nonsense."

How are vax proven to work, when all of a sudden the 3rd jab came in, 6 months after 2nd, now all of a sudden its 3 months, and still saying dont know if itll stop this so called no crimbo variant. All jabs have done is make people show less symptoms, so they go round with virus, but dont know, and spread it. No jab, theyd have symptoms and stay clear

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"The new variant causes mild disease. It spreads but we have good vaccination coverage. Why not shield the vulnerable and let others get on with their lives?

The issues the NHS has today are the result of lockdown. Massive backlogs and conditions presenting which either should have been managed earlier but weren’t (due to lockdown) or people being unable to access timely primary care (due to lockdown / various primary care policies). Covid is not the reason ambulances are queuing out the doors and people have to wait ages in EDs.

Pile of wank - yes, people with post-nominals occasionally use language like that. We don’t all speak in Latin any more…

You are a senior doctor so you should know the Covid Passport is shielding the vulnerable, who are the unvaccinated and more likely to end up in your hospital. No vaccinations or proof of recovery no entry to crowded venues.

"

Shouldn’t the vaccine be shielding the vulnerable not the passport hahaha … you couldn’t make it up

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

I bet there ain’t a million cases in the next 3 months lol "
…

Of omicron?

I’ll take that bet….. 50 quid…. Charity of choice!

You in?

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"The new variant causes mild disease. It spreads but we have good vaccination coverage. Why not shield the vulnerable and let others get on with their lives?

The issues the NHS has today are the result of lockdown. Massive backlogs and conditions presenting which either should have been managed earlier but weren’t (due to lockdown) or people being unable to access timely primary care (due to lockdown / various primary care policies). Covid is not the reason ambulances are queuing out the doors and people have to wait ages in EDs.

Pile of wank - yes, people with post-nominals occasionally use language like that. We don’t all speak in Latin any more…

You are a senior doctor so you should know the Covid Passport is shielding the vulnerable, who are the unvaccinated and more likely to end up in your hospital. No vaccinations or proof of recovery no entry to crowded venues.

Shouldn’t the vaccine be shielding the vulnerable not the passport hahaha … you couldn’t make it up "

It does and you get a pass to prove it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pile of wank. No science behind this at all. What science they do have (aka Prof Lockdown’s predictions) has all been proved wrong in the past.

A senior doctor? Using the term ‘pile of wank’? So with your ‘knowledge, experience and qualifications’ you don’t think this new variant is a concern?

The new variant causes mild disease. It spreads but we have good vaccination coverage. Why not shield the vulnerable and let others get on with their lives?

The issues the NHS has today are the result of lockdown. Massive backlogs and conditions presenting which either should have been managed earlier but weren’t (due to lockdown) or people being unable to access timely primary care (due to lockdown / various primary care policies). Covid is not the reason ambulances are queuing out the doors and people have to wait ages in EDs.

Pile of wank - yes, people with post-nominals occasionally use language like that. We don’t all speak in Latin any more…"
was your hospital maxxed out during the original waves or could you have done more of your normal cases then which are now backing up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He can stick his restrictions and plan B C D where the sun doesn’t shine

Won't be seeing you in the pub then

wanna bet just say im exempt

Oh how very grown up of you. You do know that a landlord can just deny you entry? Same as a shop or any business.

Highly unlikely, they would just loose money, anyhow why should we comply following Boris example

Because I don't set my behaviour against a proven liar.

I go by what is right.

Yep, a grown up answer rather than a petulant one "

Absolutely.

The rules are for everyone. Because people ignore the rules doesn't give me license to do the same.

I'm not freed of my responsibility because someone else is a twat.

Winston

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By *udewhennudeMan
over a year ago

newport


"

I bet there ain’t a million cases in the next 3 months lol …

Of omicron?

I’ll take that bet….. 50 quid…. Charity of choice!

You in?"

This, at the current rate of infection, there will be 4.5 million infections in 3 months if omicron becomes the dominant strain then 1 million is concievable

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire


"

I bet there ain’t a million cases in the next 3 months lol …

Of omicron?

I’ll take that bet….. 50 quid…. Charity of choice!

You in?

This, at the current rate of infection, there will be 4.5 million infections in 3 months if omicron becomes the dominant strain then 1 million is concievable"

And if we’d carried on winning medals at the same rate we did at the Olympics the whole country would have one by now. Every single prediction made by Sage has not only been wrong, it has been miles out…

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"

I bet there ain’t a million cases in the next 3 months lol …

Of omicron?

I’ll take that bet….. 50 quid…. Charity of choice!

You in?

This, at the current rate of infection, there will be 4.5 million infections in 3 months if omicron becomes the dominant strain then 1 million is concievable

And if we’d carried on winning medals at the same rate we did at the Olympics the whole country would have one by now. Every single prediction made by Sage has not only been wrong, it has been miles out…"

Sages predictions were only if we did nothing.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"The new variant causes mild disease. It spreads but we have good vaccination coverage. Why not shield the vulnerable and let others get on with their lives?

The issues the NHS has today are the result of lockdown. Massive backlogs and conditions presenting which either should have been managed earlier but weren’t (due to lockdown) or people being unable to access timely primary care (due to lockdown / various primary care policies). Covid is not the reason ambulances are queuing out the doors and people have to wait ages in EDs.

Pile of wank - yes, people with post-nominals occasionally use language like that. We don’t all speak in Latin any more…

You are a senior doctor so you should know the Covid Passport is shielding the vulnerable, who are the unvaccinated and more likely to end up in your hospital. No vaccinations or proof of recovery no entry to crowded venues.

Shouldn’t the vaccine be shielding the vulnerable not the passport hahaha … you couldn’t make it up

It does and you get a pass to prove it.

"

As does someone who is unvaccinated but lft tested

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The new variant causes mild disease. It spreads but we have good vaccination coverage. Why not shield the vulnerable and let others get on with their lives?

The issues the NHS has today are the result of lockdown. Massive backlogs and conditions presenting which either should have been managed earlier but weren’t (due to lockdown) or people being unable to access timely primary care (due to lockdown / various primary care policies). Covid is not the reason ambulances are queuing out the doors and people have to wait ages in EDs.

Pile of wank - yes, people with post-nominals occasionally use language like that. We don’t all speak in Latin any more…

You are a senior doctor so you should know the Covid Passport is shielding the vulnerable, who are the unvaccinated and more likely to end up in your hospital. No vaccinations or proof of recovery no entry to crowded venues.

Shouldn’t the vaccine be shielding the vulnerable not the passport hahaha … you couldn’t make it up

It does and you get a pass to prove it.

As does someone who is unvaccinated but lft tested "
there's evidence to show COVID-19 vaccines dampen genomic diversity of SARS-CoV-2: Unvaccinated patients exhibit more antigenic mutational variance...

So a fully vaccinated population should see less crazy variations than a vaccinated one... So not all cases are created equal.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Let the arguments begin…. Again…."

Why argue over a rumour? People just love the drama too much

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"The new variant causes mild disease. It spreads but we have good vaccination coverage. Why not shield the vulnerable and let others get on with their lives?

The issues the NHS has today are the result of lockdown. Massive backlogs and conditions presenting which either should have been managed earlier but weren’t (due to lockdown) or people being unable to access timely primary care (due to lockdown / various primary care policies). Covid is not the reason ambulances are queuing out the doors and people have to wait ages in EDs.

Pile of wank - yes, people with post-nominals occasionally use language like that. We don’t all speak in Latin any more…

You are a senior doctor so you should know the Covid Passport is shielding the vulnerable, who are the unvaccinated and more likely to end up in your hospital. No vaccinations or proof of recovery no entry to crowded venues.

Shouldn’t the vaccine be shielding the vulnerable not the passport hahaha … you couldn’t make it up

It does and you get a pass to prove it.

As does someone who is unvaccinated but lft tested

there's evidence to show COVID-19 vaccines dampen genomic diversity of SARS-CoV-2: Unvaccinated patients exhibit more antigenic mutational variance...

So a fully vaccinated population should see less crazy variations than a vaccinated one... So not all cases are created equal. "

Still doesn’t mean they can’t get a covid pass as suggested previously

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire


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I bet there ain’t a million cases in the next 3 months lol …

Of omicron?

I’ll take that bet….. 50 quid…. Charity of choice!

You in?

This, at the current rate of infection, there will be 4.5 million infections in 3 months if omicron becomes the dominant strain then 1 million is concievable

And if we’d carried on winning medals at the same rate we did at the Olympics the whole country would have one by now. Every single prediction made by Sage has not only been wrong, it has been miles out…

Sages predictions were only if we did nothing."

We haven’t done nothing for 20 months now so you’re effectively saying Sage should be made redundant. This is real life, not Bullseye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The new variant causes mild disease. It spreads but we have good vaccination coverage. Why not shield the vulnerable and let others get on with their lives?

The issues the NHS has today are the result of lockdown. Massive backlogs and conditions presenting which either should have been managed earlier but weren’t (due to lockdown) or people being unable to access timely primary care (due to lockdown / various primary care policies). Covid is not the reason ambulances are queuing out the doors and people have to wait ages in EDs.

Pile of wank - yes, people with post-nominals occasionally use language like that. We don’t all speak in Latin any more…

You are a senior doctor so you should know the Covid Passport is shielding the vulnerable, who are the unvaccinated and more likely to end up in your hospital. No vaccinations or proof of recovery no entry to crowded venues.

Shouldn’t the vaccine be shielding the vulnerable not the passport hahaha … you couldn’t make it up

It does and you get a pass to prove it.

As does someone who is unvaccinated but lft tested

there's evidence to show COVID-19 vaccines dampen genomic diversity of SARS-CoV-2: Unvaccinated patients exhibit more antigenic mutational variance...

So a fully vaccinated population should see less crazy variations than a vaccinated one... So not all cases are created equal.

Still doesn’t mean they can’t get a covid pass as suggested previously "
aha. Missindestood what they were saying. My bad.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


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I bet there ain’t a million cases in the next 3 months lol …

Of omicron?

I’ll take that bet….. 50 quid…. Charity of choice!

You in?

This, at the current rate of infection, there will be 4.5 million infections in 3 months if omicron becomes the dominant strain then 1 million is concievable

And if we’d carried on winning medals at the same rate we did at the Olympics the whole country would have one by now. Every single prediction made by Sage has not only been wrong, it has been miles out…

Sages predictions were only if we did nothing.

We haven’t done nothing for 20 months now so you’re effectively saying Sage should be made redundant. This is real life, not Bullseye"

There has be No lock downs no masks no vaccine roll out? I must live in a different country.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"This may be the party deflection…

Rumour doing the round is that boris may announce the covid plan b is going to be introduced…

Working for home where possible and vaccine passports coming…..

Let the arguments begin…. Again….

Is this "hot news" straight from your chrystal ball...or is it simply a case that you watched the BBC lunchtime news?? "

Ooppss, this didn't age well

For info, this rumour was being reported by lots of sources from early today

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


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I bet there ain’t a million cases in the next 3 months lol …

Of omicron?

I’ll take that bet….. 50 quid…. Charity of choice!

You in?"

In the uk … I’m in 100

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire


"

I bet there ain’t a million cases in the next 3 months lol …

Of omicron?

I’ll take that bet….. 50 quid…. Charity of choice!

You in?

This, at the current rate of infection, there will be 4.5 million infections in 3 months if omicron becomes the dominant strain then 1 million is concievable

And if we’d carried on winning medals at the same rate we did at the Olympics the whole country would have one by now. Every single prediction made by Sage has not only been wrong, it has been miles out…

Sages predictions were only if we did nothing.

We haven’t done nothing for 20 months now so you’re effectively saying Sage should be made redundant. This is real life, not Bullseye

There has be No lock downs no masks no vaccine roll out? I must live in a different country."

Correct, thank you for proving my point! Therefore if Sage modelling is based on no intervention and there have been multiple interventions then their figures are not fit for purpose. Yet these are the headline figures we’re supposed to be running scared of…

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