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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" I'm fairly sure there were 30 mourners, which abides by the rules. | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did." People just want to whine and be offended by something. | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did. People just want to whine and be offended by something. "  | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did. People just want to whine and be offended by something. " Lets just let them have their day without scrutiny and moaning about them. | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did. People just want to whine and be offended by something. " What’s the actual point of this post when you clearly didn’t check your facts in the first place?  | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did. People just want to whine and be offended by something. What’s the actual point of this post when you clearly didn’t check your facts in the first place? "What? They had 30 mourners at the funeral, they didn't break the rules, OP hasn't bothered to check facts, not me. | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" Does it really matter ? It’s unlikely to affect you apart from feed the pessimistic inside | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" Oh you are funny | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did. People just want to whine and be offended by something. What’s the actual point of this post when you clearly didn’t check your facts in the first place? "I think the ops point... Even if the facts are clearly wrong is clear for all to see | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did. People just want to whine and be offended by something. " That’s true, some people just like to whine, and also find some example they can use as an excuse to break the rules. | |||
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"From what I understand is 30 people total" No, 30 mourners. | |||
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"From what I understand is 30 people total " "Funerals can be attended by a maximum of 30 people and may take place indoors. Linked religious or belief-_ased commemorative events, such as wakes, stone settings and ash scatterings can also continue with up to 15 people in attendance. ____________________________ Anyone working is not counted _____________________________ in these limits. Social distancing should be maintained between people who do not live together or share a support bubble." from .gov | |||
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"From what I understand is 30 people total "Funerals can be attended by a maximum of 30 people and may take place indoors. Linked religious or belief-_ased commemorative events, such as wakes, stone settings and ash scatterings can also continue with up to 15 people in attendance. ____________________________ Anyone working is not counted _____________________________ in these limits. Social distancing should be maintained between people who do not live together or share a support bubble." from .gov" So I could have a 100 people are few name as always I pay 70 of them | |||
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"From what I understand is 30 people total "Funerals can be attended by a maximum of 30 people and may take place indoors. Linked religious or belief-_ased commemorative events, such as wakes, stone settings and ash scatterings can also continue with up to 15 people in attendance. ____________________________ Anyone working is not counted _____________________________ in these limits. Social distancing should be maintained between people who do not live together or share a support bubble." from .gov So I could have a 100 people are few name as always I pay 70 of them" You're just being ridiculous really. | |||
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"From what I understand is 30 people total "Funerals can be attended by a maximum of 30 people and may take place indoors. Linked religious or belief-_ased commemorative events, such as wakes, stone settings and ash scatterings can also continue with up to 15 people in attendance. ____________________________ Anyone working is not counted _____________________________ in these limits. Social distancing should be maintained between people who do not live together or share a support bubble." from .gov So I could have a 100 people are few name as always I pay 70 of them" Realistically. You wouldn't want the Funeral director and their staff and church staff et-al to be counted in the number, would you? | |||
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"All I'm saying is does no one see the numbers a bit excessive?" At the Funeral of the Queens Consort - No. | |||
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"All I'm saying is does no one see the numbers a bit excessive?" No, they had the 30 people they were allowed, why is it excessive if the royal family do it but not if others do it? You're looking for something to whine about, I'd advise sitting down and reading a book. | |||
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"From what I understand is 30 people total "Funerals can be attended by a maximum of 30 people and may take place indoors. Linked religious or belief-_ased commemorative events, such as wakes, stone settings and ash scatterings can also continue with up to 15 people in attendance. ____________________________ Anyone working is not counted _____________________________ in these limits. Social distancing should be maintained between people who do not live together or share a support bubble." from .gov So I could have a 100 people are few name as always I pay 70 of them You're just being ridiculous really."
not to mention how many close family members were unable to attend, if it was just a ploy to get extra numbers do you not think they would have filled some of the roles? | |||
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"All I'm saying is does no one see the numbers a bit excessive?" 30 people are allowed. Rich or poor. (not sure why you need to comment on wealth?). 30 people attended on front of billions on TV. They should be entitled as everyone else to grieve and mourn and celebrate his life the same way anyone else would a 99 year old man. What's your issue that you are trying to highlight? | |||
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"I dont think the large number of staff are essential thats what I'm saying and I see it as excessive. That's all I'm saying. " The Funeral of the Consort to the Queen of the United Kingdom and Commonwealth? Excessive numbers? | |||
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"I dont think the large number of staff are essential thats what I'm saying and I see it as excessive. That's all I'm saying. " When you say staff are you talking about the military bands? Cause if so they all looked at a safe distance in the open. What's your real problem with todays funeral? | |||
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"I knew someone would have a moan about this ffs. Same as all those who complained to the BBC because Eastenders and Masterchef was cancelled . Really ??? It just beggers belief "Hey now hang on - there is totally another story lol. They shut down the whole of BBC 4. Women's Football and all. Why? | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her." Can't argue with that  | |||
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"If it was any member of public in the same situation with the same numbers there would be fines and arrests" But it wasnt was it. | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her." | |||
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"From what I understand is 30 people total" The rule is 30 mourners. They stuck to that. | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her." Well said | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did. People just want to whine and be offended by something. Lets just let them have their day without scrutiny and moaning about them. " Yes I quite agree they abided by the rules .theres no need to have a post like this op | |||
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"If it was any member of public in the same situation with the same numbers there would be fines and arrests" They had 30 mourners in the Chapel. If a member of the public did the same why would they be arrested? | |||
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"So someone asked what my point is on this post. My point is if they can have that many people in attendance whither them staff or mourners or whatever why can't we? I'm just calling as I see it and I'm calling double standards." They couldn't and didn't. They had 30 members of the Family - everyone else was working which is allowed under the rules. This fact doesn't change because you choose to ignore it. | |||
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"All I'm saying is does no one see the numbers a bit excessive?" there were very few there... definitely not more than 30 mourners. | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" Maybe you need to learn how to count | |||
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"They followed all the guidelines. They stuck to 30 mourners, social distancing was observed, masks were worn, the congregation didn't sing. The whole thing was drastically scaled down and arrangements that had been in place, & meticulously planned for decades, were changed at short notice in order to comply with the rules. I thought it was all incredibly well done and extremely poignant. " it was so beautiful and well done xxx | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gathering" Are you actually reading any replies. Or just ignoring everything to try prove your rather pathetic O.P | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her." ^^^This  | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her." Well said. | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her." Me too. It was a heart breaking sight seeing The Queen alone, I hope she knows we are thinking of her. | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gathering Are you actually reading any replies. Or just ignoring everything to try prove your rather pathetic O.P" | |||
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"All I'm saying is does no one see the numbers a bit excessive?" Nope, and to be honest if he'd had a full state funeral I wouldn't have objected. | |||
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"So someone asked what my point is on this post. My point is if they can have that many people in attendance whither them staff or mourners or whatever why can't we? I'm just calling as I see it and I'm calling double standards." OP You do not seem to realise that the rules of Covid and funerals were firmly adhered to by the Royal Family. Her Majesty the Queen was lead mourner followed by members of close family. When inside the Chapel they socially distanced and we're in small family bubbles. At no time were the Government rules broken. The choir was only 4 people and the conductor and all socially distanced in a separate part of the chapel. The bandsmen providing the fanfares etc at the service were in that chapel were also socially distanced. No rules were broken. Her Majesty and her immediate family were not accorded any dispensation from the Government rules. All sections of the funeral bands and other people associated with the funeral complied with the rules. So I cannot understand what your problem is with today's very sad event. Also you seem to fail to understand that the funeral was of National importance as it was Her Majesty's husband's funeral. As Royalty it is a given that there will be large numbers of people involved in making the funeral take place in a duly Royal way. Yes there were numbers in excess of 30 at Windsor Castle but they all had a role to play and from what could be seen, all Government rules surrounding funerals were fully complied with. I suggest that when the sad day comes of Her Majesty The Queen's funeral takes place, you do not watch it as no doubt even that funeral will give you cause to complain. | |||
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It’s a funeral, someone died.
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"So someone asked what my point is on this post. My point is if they can have that many people in attendance whither them staff or mourners or whatever why can't we? I'm just calling as I see it and I'm calling double standards. OP You do not seem to realise that the rules of Covid and funerals were firmly adhered to by the Royal Family. Her Majesty the Queen was lead mourner followed by members of close family. When inside the Chapel they socially distanced and we're in small family bubbles. At no time were the Government rules broken. The choir was only 4 people and the conductor and all socially distanced in a separate part of the chapel. The bandsmen providing the fanfares etc at the service were in that chapel were also socially distanced. No rules were broken. Her Majesty and her immediate family were not accorded any dispensation from the Government rules. All sections of the funeral bands and other people associated with the funeral complied with the rules. So I cannot understand what your problem is with today's very sad event. Also you seem to fail to understand that the funeral was of National importance as it was Her Majesty's husband's funeral. As Royalty it is a given that there will be large numbers of people involved in making the funeral take place in a duly Royal way. Yes there were numbers in excess of 30 at Windsor Castle but they all had a role to play and from what could be seen, all Government rules surrounding funerals were fully complied with. I suggest that when the sad day comes of Her Majesty The Queen's funeral takes place, you do not watch it as no doubt even that funeral will give you cause to complain. " | |||
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"So someone asked what my point is on this post. My point is if they can have that many people in attendance whither them staff or mourners or whatever why can't we? I'm just calling as I see it and I'm calling double standards." You don't have a point, they did nothing wrong, you expected to come on here and have a following of other people bitching about 'them vs us', it's not about that, a man died and his family were showing their respect, maybe you could show some too. | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" Your empathy is overwhelming. Get a life | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her." This.. Op your talking complete bollocks.. Respect that's your opinion but it's still nonsensical .. | |||
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"So someone asked what my point is on this post. My point is if they can have that many people in attendance whither them staff or mourners or whatever why can't we? I'm just calling as I see it and I'm calling double standards. You don't have a point, they did nothing wrong, you expected to come on here and have a following of other people bitching about 'them vs us', it's not about that, a man died and his family were showing their respect, maybe you could show some too. " | |||
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"As a person that believes the monarchy should be abolished I have to say the queen sitting alone broke my heart. Whatever your feelings about the elite rich (and I have loads believe me) to lose a partner after 73 years deserves some empathy- regardless of beliefs. " Aye.. As someone who is very much against the Monarchy system.. That's my thinking in it too. 73 years is longer than most of our lifetimes and to have a partner for that long and lose them must feel really awful.. | |||
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"As a person that believes the monarchy should be abolished I have to say the queen sitting alone broke my heart. Whatever your feelings about the elite rich (and I have loads believe me) to lose a partner after 73 years deserves some empathy- regardless of beliefs. " I'm neither a Royal hater or lover, but I caught some of the service yesterday, and that image you refer to of Her Majesty sat alone resonated with me also. It made me realise that unlike any of us that have lost near and dear, she wasn't even allowed the chance to publicly display the pain and heart ache she must be going through. At least we are afforded this without the media frenzy that would accompany it had she dared cry. | |||
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"As a person that believes the monarchy should be abolished I have to say the queen sitting alone broke my heart. Whatever your feelings about the elite rich (and I have loads believe me) to lose a partner after 73 years deserves some empathy- regardless of beliefs. " I, like this lady, am not a royalist in fact a committed republican but passing of the Duke of Edinburgh is a milestone in this country’s history. I took the time to read a biography of the man and it seems as well as fighting for his country in WW2 he was successful in beginning the modernisation of the monarchy. He had forthright views on most things and sometimes put his foot in it but sometimes don’t we all? His ability to put people at ease was there to see and the creation of the DOE scheme for young people has to be commended. I did giggle when at a veterans photo shoot the photographer was trying to get everything right and fussing over minor detail when the DOE blurted out “ just take the fucking picture” priceless! To see the queen alone with her thoughts about the man with whom she shared 73 years of marriage was very sad. No doubt that scene is played out every day in this land during the current crisis. No, not a royalist but the family paid their respects to a husband father and grand father within the current rules and with a degree of dignity and grieving. | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gathering" they followed the rules,end of... If You really want something to moan about what about the hundreds and thousands out yesterday shopping and drinking. The pubs in newcastle looked full and pretty much normal as they watched the football. And if we do end up back up at square one it won't be because of the royal funeral. It will be because a lot of us can't behave ourselves | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gatheringthey followed the rules,end of... If You really want something to moan about what about the hundreds and thousands out yesterday shopping and drinking. The pubs in newcastle looked full and pretty much normal as they watched the football. And if we do end up back up at square one it won't be because of the royal funeral. It will be because a lot of us can't behave ourselves " | |||
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"If it was any member of public in the same situation with the same numbers there would be fines and arrests" H Who is it is you are complaining about? The 4 in the choir who were at the back of the Chapel away from everyone? The pall bearers who left as soon as they had done their job? The Dean and the archbishop who did the ceremony? Or the single piper who player in a totally separate room? I don't get what you are moaning about they all seem pretty essential to me. | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gatheringthey followed the rules,end of... If You really want something to moan about what about the hundreds and thousands out yesterday shopping and drinking. The pubs in newcastle looked full and pretty much normal as they watched the football. And if we do end up back up at square one it won't be because of the royal funeral. It will be because a lot of us can't behave ourselves " This. | |||
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"I think the only thing this has served is to highlight the sheer lack of basic humanity some albeit a minority have for others, and to illustrate that even with people of different views and politics etc the core common empathy shines through.. Might sound clichéd but safe to say that yesterday as she was sat alone there were hundreds of thousands of people who wanted to put an arm around her .." Totally agree | |||
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"They abided totally by the rules... it was clear to see that they did. The Queen looked such a lonely figure as she sat totally alone through the church ceremony."I actually shed a tear as I watched live coverage yesterday as many did :"( My thoughts are with The Queen & Rip Prince Philip XX | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? " Go and familiarise yourself with the guidelines / laws on the gov website. | |||
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"I think the only thing this has served is to highlight the sheer lack of basic humanity some albeit a minority have for others, and to illustrate that even with people of different views and politics etc the core common empathy shines through.. Might sound clichéd but safe to say that yesterday as she was sat alone there were hundreds of thousands of people who wanted to put an arm around her .." | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/prince-philip-the-30-guests-attending-the-duke-of-edinburghs-funeral-have-been-announced-12276214 The list of Funeral Guests. _________________________________________ May Prince Philip Rest in Peace. And Condolences to The Queen and All Members of the Royal Family and Friends for their loss. " | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her." Now that's a comment that shows humanity and empathy. Regardless of any positioning around the event, a family has lost a loved one. Sadly the post says more about the OP than it does about the RF or the event itself. | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" So is it because they are the Royal family or is it because they are rich, You have decided to start a Troll post? 30 mourners were at the Service, with Millions all over the World also paying their respects. Have a read of Dale Carnegie's book, it might help. | |||
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"As a person that believes the monarchy should be abolished I have to say the queen sitting alone broke my heart. Whatever your feelings about the elite rich (and I have loads believe me) to lose a partner after 73 years deserves some empathy- regardless of beliefs. I'm neither a Royal hater or lover, but I caught some of the service yesterday, and that image you refer to of Her Majesty sat alone resonated with me also. It made me realise that unlike any of us that have lost near and dear, she wasn't even allowed the chance to publicly display the pain and heart ache she must be going through. At least we are afforded this without the media frenzy that would accompany it had she dared cry."
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" Bore off.... suppose next you'll be like Jeremy Vine and complain there was no one of ethnicity in attendance. Stop whinging | |||
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"The day also served to highlight once again the media's eagerness to sow the seeds of division amongst its readers with the headline 'William and Harry seen chatting after funeral'. For gods sake, they are still brothers! Get a grip media or better still get sanctioned!!" Yes, o don't understand why they can get into a foaming at the mouth frenzy about that but not care that, a year onto this pandemic, our borders are STILL wide open to all and sundry. Surely it can't be that difficult? We're an island, FFS.... | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" It would be interesting to have you point out (with examples) exactly which rules were broken? The coffin bearers were all masked up and socially distanced from the mourners (99.9% of funerals have coffin bearers). The mourners were all masked up and socially distanced (all permitted 30). The mourners remained seated and socially distanced throughout the service. The 4 person choir was in a separate part of the church, as were the buglers and trumpeters. The piper was alone in a separate part of the church. The mourners left at the end of the service in their family groups, still masked up. So exactly which rules were broken and how? | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? " Well he didn't break any rules either, plenty of information out there, if you're not sure  | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? Well he didn't break any rules either, plenty of information out there, if you're not sure "From what i read, it says quarantine for 10 days.. did he? | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gatheringthey followed the rules,end of... If You really want something to moan about what about the hundreds and thousands out yesterday shopping and drinking. The pubs in newcastle looked full and pretty much normal as they watched the football. And if we do end up back up at square one it won't be because of the royal funeral. It will be because a lot of us can't behave ourselves " Absolutely 100% this plus the sympathy for what the Queen is going through. Honestly respect different opinions, but what a stupid post by the OP. | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? Well he didn't break any rules either, plenty of information out there, if you're not sure "Bearing in mind i never said anyone broke rules, i just asked whats the deal with quarantine in the UK at the moment if it for anything other that "Work and essential travel" | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? Well he didn't break any rules either, plenty of information out there, if you're not sure
From what i read, it says quarantine for 10 days.. did he?
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? " He also abided by the rules | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? " Again, the rules have been followed. Harry was able to fly into the UK on compassionate grounds. He has been in quarantine since arriving. It is allowed within the rules for him to break quarantine in order to attend the funeral, returning to quarantine afterwards. Alternatively there is the option to pay for a testing which, if negative, can release you from quarantine early. These are the same rules applied to anyone who flies in to the UK on compassionate grounds at the moment. | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? Well he didn't break any rules either, plenty of information out there, if you're not sure
Bearing in mind i never said anyone broke rules, i just asked whats the deal with quarantine in the UK at the moment if it for anything other that "Work and essential travel" "...and I didn't say you did..you can take a 'test to release ' test after 5 days of quarantine and if it's negative you can come out of quarantine. Source Gov.uk | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich? Well said It would be interesting to have you point out (with examples) exactly which rules were broken? The coffin bearers were all masked up and socially distanced from the mourners (99.9% of funerals have coffin bearers). The mourners were all masked up and socially distanced (all permitted 30). The mourners remained seated and socially distanced throughout the service. The 4 person choir was in a separate part of the church, as were the buglers and trumpeters. The piper was alone in a separate part of the church. The mourners left at the end of the service in their family groups, still masked up. So exactly which rules were broken and how?" well said, all rules and regulations were adhered to yesterday | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gatheringthey followed the rules,end of... If You really want something to moan about what about the hundreds and thousands out yesterday shopping and drinking. The pubs in newcastle looked full and pretty much normal as they watched the football. And if we do end up back up at square one it won't be because of the royal funeral. It will be because a lot of us can't behave ourselves Absolutely 100% this plus the sympathy for what the Queen is going through. Honestly respect different opinions, but what a stupid post by the OP." | |||
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"So someone asked what my point is on this post. My point is if they can have that many people in attendance whither them staff or mourners or whatever why can't we? I'm just calling as I see it and I'm calling double standards." rules where followed staff are not counted ie security waiters waitresses no double standards | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? Again, the rules have been followed. Harry was able to fly into the UK on compassionate grounds. He has been in quarantine since arriving. It is allowed within the rules for him to break quarantine in order to attend the funeral, returning to quarantine afterwards. Alternatively there is the option to pay for a testing which, if negative, can release you from quarantine early. These are the same rules applied to anyone who flies in to the UK on compassionate grounds at the moment. " It is allowed within the rules for him to break quarantine in order to attend the funeral, returning to quarantine afterwards. Whats the point returning to quarantine? | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? " Harry followed all the rules when he returned to the UK and Im assuming but I could be wrong that the military personal there yesterday have been with their regiments in barracks. As others have said it is heart warming to see so much kindness and empathy towards the royal family here. There are some things that bring the majority of people together no matter what walk of life they come from or what political or religious beliefs they hold. | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? Well he didn't break any rules either, plenty of information out there, if you're not sure
Bearing in mind i never said anyone broke rules, i just asked whats the deal with quarantine in the UK at the moment if it for anything other that "Work and essential travel" "He more than likely would have been in isolation beforehand, took a test before flying, took a test 5 days after arriving and under rules you can leave quarantine for compassionate reasons providing you return to quarantine afterwards. I'd argue burying your Grandfather counts. | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? Well he didn't break any rules either, plenty of information out there, if you're not sure
Bearing in mind i never said anyone broke rules, i just asked whats the deal with quarantine in the UK at the moment if it for anything other that "Work and essential travel"
...and I didn't say you did..you can take a 'test to release ' test after 5 days of quarantine and if it's negative you can come out of quarantine. Source Gov.uk"You can still use the Test to Release for international travel scheme. The scheme lets you choose to pay for a private COVID-19 test. If the result is negative, you can stop quarantining. You cannot take a test to release test until you have been in England for 5 full days. The scheme is voluntary and applies to those quarantining in England only. | |||
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"rules where followed staff are not counted ie security waiters waitresses no double standards " There were no waiters and waitresses inside the church ! | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? Again, the rules have been followed. Harry was able to fly into the UK on compassionate grounds. He has been in quarantine since arriving. It is allowed within the rules for him to break quarantine in order to attend the funeral, returning to quarantine afterwards. Alternatively there is the option to pay for a testing which, if negative, can release you from quarantine early. These are the same rules applied to anyone who flies in to the UK on compassionate grounds at the moment. It is allowed within the rules for him to break quarantine in order to attend the funeral, returning to quarantine afterwards. Whats the point returning to quarantine? " No doubt he would have taken the 5 day test, I wouldn't think he would put his family at risk, if it were positive.. | |||
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"I don’t read our scum mainstream media but have any of them started giving Harry and Megan a bashing yet for her not being there? Assume the 30 mourners were very carefully chosen _ased on family ties and rank?" Harry was there, Meghan advised not to travel due to pregnancy | |||
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"So someone asked what my point is on this post. My point is if they can have that many people in attendance whither them staff or mourners or whatever why can't we? I'm just calling as I see it and I'm calling double standards." Speeking objectively, i didn't see any breaking of guidelines OP The buglers and singers were kept well apart from each other and from the mouners. The rest were outdoors. Was emotional and feel for them. | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gatheringthey followed the rules,end of... If You really want something to moan about what about the hundreds and thousands out yesterday shopping and drinking. The pubs in newcastle looked full and pretty much normal as they watched the football. And if we do end up back up at square one it won't be because of the royal funeral. It will be because a lot of us can't behave ourselves " Same here in Hull. There were reports of 300 yard long queues for Primark, 200 yard long queues for a Mcdonald and similar lengthy queues for other major retailers. Traffic was gridlocked all day across the city, all for fools who just couldn't stay at home. | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gatheringthey followed the rules,end of... If You really want something to moan about what about the hundreds and thousands out yesterday shopping and drinking. The pubs in newcastle looked full and pretty much normal as they watched the football. And if we do end up back up at square one it won't be because of the royal funeral. It will be because a lot of us can't behave ourselves Same here in Hull. There were reports of 300 yard long queues for Primark, 200 yard long queues for a Mcdonald and similar lengthy queues for other major retailers. Traffic was gridlocked all day across the city, all for fools who just couldn't stay at home." And I think if that is being allowed, going to the funeral of a loved one, all socially distanced and wearing masks, shouldn't be a problem | |||
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"Is there mandatory quarantine when entering the UK from outside the EU? Is the USA on a quarantine country list? How long must someone quarantine? And if so how long did harry quarantine for? Again, the rules have been followed. Harry was able to fly into the UK on compassionate grounds. He has been in quarantine since arriving. It is allowed within the rules for him to break quarantine in order to attend the funeral, returning to quarantine afterwards. Alternatively there is the option to pay for a testing which, if negative, can release you from quarantine early. These are the same rules applied to anyone who flies in to the UK on compassionate grounds at the moment. " Strangely however not the rules for the 10s of 1000s of people flying back from India at the moment, you know that place with over qtr of a million new infections yesterday, in advance of placing it on the red list. I know which one is a higher risk. | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gatheringthey followed the rules,end of... If You really want something to moan about what about the hundreds and thousands out yesterday shopping and drinking. The pubs in newcastle looked full and pretty much normal as they watched the football. And if we do end up back up at square one it won't be because of the royal funeral. It will be because a lot of us can't behave ourselves Same here in Hull. There were reports of 300 yard long queues for Primark, 200 yard long queues for a Mcdonald and similar lengthy queues for other major retailers. Traffic was gridlocked all day across the city, all for fools who just couldn't stay at home. And I think if that is being allowed, going to the funeral of a loved one, all socially distanced and wearing masks, shouldn't be a problem "Morning Samiss. I was doing my voluntary work yesterday at the local BHF store, and we were very busy. But it's the element within people who think that all restrictions have ceased, and we'd issues with people who didn't wear masks, wanted to ignore the safety numbers of people in the store at any one time. Fortunately, as locatedvon a very busy shopping street, there were police and PCSO's around if we needed help, but it was the idiocy of some shoppers that beggared belief! | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gatheringthey followed the rules,end of... If You really want something to moan about what about the hundreds and thousands out yesterday shopping and drinking. The pubs in newcastle looked full and pretty much normal as they watched the football. And if we do end up back up at square one it won't be because of the royal funeral. It will be because a lot of us can't behave ourselves Same here in Hull. There were reports of 300 yard long queues for Primark, 200 yard long queues for a Mcdonald and similar lengthy queues for other major retailers. Traffic was gridlocked all day across the city, all for fools who just couldn't stay at home. And I think if that is being allowed, going to the funeral of a loved one, all socially distanced and wearing masks, shouldn't be a problem
Morning Samiss. I was doing my voluntary work yesterday at the local BHF store, and we were very busy.
But it's the element within people who think that all restrictions have ceased, and we'd issues with people who didn't wear masks, wanted to ignore the safety numbers of people in the store at any one time.
Fortunately, as locatedvon a very busy shopping street, there were police and PCSO's around if we needed help, but it was the idiocy of some shoppers that beggared belief!"Morning Iain. It will continue to happen, won't it? Which is why I won't be going into town just yet | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" For gods sake just shut up! | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gatheringthey followed the rules,end of... If You really want something to moan about what about the hundreds and thousands out yesterday shopping and drinking. The pubs in newcastle looked full and pretty much normal as they watched the football. And if we do end up back up at square one it won't be because of the royal funeral. It will be because a lot of us can't behave ourselves Same here in Hull. There were reports of 300 yard long queues for Primark, 200 yard long queues for a Mcdonald and similar lengthy queues for other major retailers. Traffic was gridlocked all day across the city, all for fools who just couldn't stay at home. And I think if that is being allowed, going to the funeral of a loved one, all socially distanced and wearing masks, shouldn't be a problem
Morning Samiss. I was doing my voluntary work yesterday at the local BHF store, and we were very busy.
But it's the element within people who think that all restrictions have ceased, and we'd issues with people who didn't wear masks, wanted to ignore the safety numbers of people in the store at any one time.
Fortunately, as locatedvon a very busy shopping street, there were police and PCSO's around if we needed help, but it was the idiocy of some shoppers that beggared belief!"Still, we've only been battling this thing for 15 months with wall to wall 24 hours a day coverage of how it spreads and how to avoid it spreading. How could we expect people to know what they should be doing? I mean all those adverts on radio and TV and press... All the posters on the lamposts and in the shop windows in 4 languages... Impossible. | |||
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"rules where followed staff are not counted ie security waiters waitresses no double standards There were no waiters and waitresses inside the church ! " The support staff, including hospitality staff, ladies in waiting and so on for the Queen at Windsor Castle have all remained the same for a year, as a "Support Bubble". They've all been there for that time, are under medical supervision and tested. That means no outside staff were needed. Security around the castle in town was maintained by Thames Valley Police, along with support officers from elite military and Met Police teams, so their covid rules would apply. | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich? For gods sake just shut up! "You could even turn it around... In front of 100s of TV cameras and press the 30 mourners wore their masks indoors, maintained a minimum of 2m distance and followed all the rules. ... Wonder how many in the shops yesterday did the same thing. | |||
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"Well I'm pretty sure if they turned out with the band the police would find an issue with it. Also let's bear in mind as well we do have a pandemic on their hands. And the reason of all was ball in in the 1st blows was the stop large numbers in any form of gatheringthey followed the rules,end of... If You really want something to moan about what about the hundreds and thousands out yesterday shopping and drinking. The pubs in newcastle looked full and pretty much normal as they watched the football. And if we do end up back up at square one it won't be because of the royal funeral. It will be because a lot of us can't behave ourselves Same here in Hull. There were reports of 300 yard long queues for Primark, 200 yard long queues for a Mcdonald and similar lengthy queues for other major retailers. Traffic was gridlocked all day across the city, all for fools who just couldn't stay at home. And I think if that is being allowed, going to the funeral of a loved one, all socially distanced and wearing masks, shouldn't be a problem
Morning Samiss. I was doing my voluntary work yesterday at the local BHF store, and we were very busy.
But it's the element within people who think that all restrictions have ceased, and we'd issues with people who didn't wear masks, wanted to ignore the safety numbers of people in the store at any one time.
Fortunately, as locatedvon a very busy shopping street, there were police and PCSO's around if we needed help, but it was the idiocy of some shoppers that beggared belief!
Still, we've only been battling this thing for 15 months with wall to wall 24 hours a day coverage of how it spreads and how to avoid it spreading. How could we expect people to know what they should be doing? I mean all those adverts on radio and TV and press... All the posters on the lamposts and in the shop windows in 4 languages... Impossible. "i think there is a time and place to moan about border controls and folk easing too soon, lots of threads available for this , my gut says a thread which has mostly been about condolences and showing empathy to the royal family on the loss of one of their own probably isn’t it - its just going to push it down a path where people start bickering about what should and shouldn’t be allowed | |||
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" Strangely however not the rules for the 10s of 1000s of people flying back from India at the moment, you know that place with over qtr of a million new infections yesterday, in advance of placing it on the red list. I know which one is a higher risk. " The rules for flying in from India are the same as from USA. Ten days quarantine and two PCR tests on arrival which must be booked before departure. | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" Give your head a wobble you mug! | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her." For first time she looked old and frail, broken by grief. I wanted someone just to go and hug her, hold her hand or something. | |||
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"All I'm saying is does no one see the numbers a bit excessive?" I thought it was quite a low key funeral in comparison to Diana. Watching The Crown and reading in the papers about Phillip’s life makes me appreciate how much he gave for the Commonwealth and his wife | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her. For first time she looked old and frail, broken by grief. I wanted someone just to go and hug her, hold her hand or something." Indeed. I've thought for a long time that they kept each other going, and as soon as one went the other wouldn't be far behind. I won't be surprised if HM goes in the next year or two | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her. For first time she looked old and frail, broken by grief. I wanted someone just to go and hug her, hold her hand or something. Indeed. I've thought for a long time that they kept each other going, and as soon as one went the other wouldn't be far behind. I won't be surprised if HM goes in the next year or two" Whilst there is no medical proof of this it is sadly not an uncommon occurrence. It used to be described as dying from a broken heart. We shouldn't forget also that Her Majesty is 95 in a few days time, however, she has, and always had an incredibly strong sense of 'duty & loyalty', so let's all hope that those qualities help her and keep her going for years to come. | |||
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"There has been a couple of negative comments about this, not just this post. At the end of the day, a grieving person had sit on her own and say her final goodbye to someone she spent most of her life with. Grief doesn't recognise status, a broken heart and the emotions she is going through are just like any other human. My heart goes out to her. For first time she looked old and frail, broken by grief. I wanted someone just to go and hug her, hold her hand or something. Indeed. I've thought for a long time that they kept each other going, and as soon as one went the other wouldn't be far behind. I won't be surprised if HM goes in the next year or two Whilst there is no medical proof of this it is sadly not an uncommon occurrence. It used to be described as dying from a broken heart. We shouldn't forget also that Her Majesty is 95 in a few days time, however, she has, and always had an incredibly strong sense of 'duty & loyalty', so let's all hope that those qualities help her and keep her going for years to come." As you say HM is 95 years of age and that’s a big age for anyone. I do think as people reach elderly years they become acceptance of death, my parents certainly did. I’m sure HM must have prepared herself mentally for this as the Duke had ill health the last few months but saying that he was her consort for 73 so it’s a huge gap he has left. HM has always seemed to have been a strong character. Let’s hope she copes with her grief and is well supported. | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" Someone trying to be a bit 'edgy' for views etc. But instead all you have done is make yourself look like a massive whopper! Well done | |||
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" Whilst there is no medical proof of this it is sadly not an uncommon occurrence. It used to be described as dying from a broken heart. We shouldn't forget also that Her Majesty is 95 in a few days time, however, she has, and always had an incredibly strong sense of 'duty & loyalty', so let's all hope that those qualities help her and keep her going for years to come." There is, cant remember it's actual name but fwir it's to do with the adrenalin released at the time of the other persons death and the strain and damage it causes to the heart. | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did. People just want to whine and be offended by something. What’s the actual point of this post when you clearly didn’t check your facts in the first place? "Yep, melons, total melons. | |||
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"Maybe OP was referring to all the military present but remember this was a royal funeral and very scaled back compared to what it would be if Covid was not around. All rules were followed with 30 mourners. It’s sad that the this thread has been made. A family has lost a loved one. " Exactly. The military were outside and spaced. The bugle players, singers and the mouners inside were distanced, no problems.. End of. | |||
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"Maybe OP was referring to all the military present but remember this was a royal funeral and very scaled back compared to what it would be if Covid was not around. All rules were followed with 30 mourners. It’s sad that the this thread has been made. A family has lost a loved one. " | |||
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"And this ladies and gentlemen is what happens if you don't take your medication on time. You start wanting to pay 70 people as part of the staff at a funeral so you can compete with the Royal family lol" | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" It’s 30 mourners I’ve been to a funeral of an ex army friend were literally a hundred guys turned out suited and booted and gave a guard of honour to the crematorium fours. Stop talking nonsense | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did. People just want to whine and be offended by something. " Don’t they just! | |||
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"As a person that believes the monarchy should be abolished I have to say the queen sitting alone broke my heart. Whatever your feelings about the elite rich (and I have loads believe me) to lose a partner after 73 years deserves some empathy- regardless of beliefs. " | |||
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"Is it just me or did anyone else notice while over 30 People at the funeral? So lockdown for everyone but the rich?" Trying to take cheap shots at the expense of a grieving family's funeral whether you have issues with them or not really isn't something to be proud of. | |||
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"I’m one of those people who are anti royalist however they did not break any rules they abided by the numbers that we all have too and who couldn’t be moved by the old queen sitting alone I for one think someone should have been able to sit with her that was a bit sad I’d hate that to be my mother sitting alone they were just another family saying goodbye to a loved one and obeyed the stupid rules concerning funerals ." she chose to sit alone. She could have had someone sit with her. | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did. People just want to whine and be offended by something. " Yes, a great gesture to the country by the family in doing that and still someone has to have a go. I’m not a big monarchist but sometimes they get undue remarks. | |||
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"30 from the Family is what the rules say - 30 from the family is what they did. People just want to whine and be offended by something. Yes, a great gesture to the country by the family in doing that and still someone has to have a go. I’m not a big monarchist but sometimes they get undue remarks. " This! Adding to that, if she wanted a member of her family beside her she could have done so. It's more likely she wanted this moment by herself. Anyone who has buried a loved one knows you just need space for yourself even in a crowd. | |||
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