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By *orkiecpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

York

Most of the females in my family have had cancer of one form or another, thankfully all in remission, only because of early diginosis And swift treatment. due to covid 19 getting a doctors appointment is almost impossible and as far as i know all cancer treatments and operations and post op treatments etc where cancelled in march and only a small amount have re started. HOW many people will die from cancer this year due the closing of all cancer services? ? .

the lockdown will have caused more cancer deaths and many cancers will not of been spotted early due lack of doctors appointments in the long run the lockdown will kill more people than it saved ...

Thats not to mention the raise in the number of suicides due to the economy being destroyed by the lockdown

Oh and the death numbers are being investigated as it seems there where fiddling the numbers to make it look like More people where dying from the virus then actually where.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No one wants to hear that on here. The lockdown was brilliant and that's that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Most of the females in my family have had cancer of one form or another, thankfully all in remission, only because of early diginosis And swift treatment. due to covid 19 getting a doctors appointment is almost impossible and as far as i know all cancer treatments and operations and post op treatments etc where cancelled in march and only a small amount have re started. HOW many people will die from cancer this year due the closing of all cancer services? ? .

the lockdown will have caused more cancer deaths and many cancers will not of been spotted early due lack of doctors appointments in the long run the lockdown will kill more people than it saved ...

Thats not to mention the raise in the number of suicides due to the economy being destroyed by the lockdown

Oh and the death numbers are being investigated as it seems there where fiddling the numbers to make it look like More people where dying from the virus then actually where.

"

Care to explain to additional number of deaths

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

The lockdown makes sense, the stopping of all other treatments doesn't. And anyone who has died during lockdown would likely have been put down as covid.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

I know of people currently undergoing cancer treatment and who have done throughout covid.

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By *iker babe 777Couple
over a year ago

Plymouth

We treated over 3000 chemo patients during the last 20 weeks for their regular planned care Chemo treatments.

We also cared for many palliative care patients along with a First wedding in our hospital.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

I know of someone who received their cancer diagnosis at the start of lockdown. Had surgery and has been having chemo throughout.

I think cancer treatment provision through lockdown has depended a lot on where you live. Like so many other provisions from the nhs have for years

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

It's totally untrue that they stopped all cancer treatment.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"The lockdown makes sense, the stopping of all other treatments doesn't. And anyone who has died during lockdown would likely have been put down as covid. "

There's been far too many errors in the recording and counting of fatalities. I don't think we will ever be able to state beyond argument whether lockdown was a useful policy or not.

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over a year ago

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Sadly, the experts have pointed out that the opportunities to order NHS and Care Services supplies including PPE, prepare for the pandemic fully and more, were decided by the government not to be undertaken at the start of the pandemic. This meant that the whole service was ill-fated to be able to sustain the levels of infection that overloaded it early on, including service suspensions for other conditions. A few days ago Johnson stated that he'd not read the report from the pandemic readiness tests that were run in 2016/8, which pinpointed how we would not cope with a viral epidemic.

Health services had imposed real-terms cuts to funding from 2010, that have impacted on the overall ability of health and care services to be be able to operate just at the levels that they had been doing. We get what we pay and vote for and have now realised more than ever, just how important our health and support services are. It's tragic that so many more people than the tens of thousands who have died from covid19, are so gravely affected by this catastrophe. The partial lockdown appears to have prevented a much greater level of catastrophe but we should recognise the broader impact of it, not just of those who became ill or died directly via covid-19.

I think that tax changes will be needed to help us to get service levels similar to Germany, some Scandinavian countries and elsewhere, where health investment is a higher priority.

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By *ir-spunk-alotMan
over a year ago

Southern England


"It's totally untrue that they stopped all cancer treatment."

Yes, it may have been scaled back but not fully stopped.

Family member had cancer op in feb started chemo in may.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"No one wants to hear that on here. The lockdown was brilliant and that's that."
You cannot close your eyes to the effects of this virus they will effect life and society for a generations.To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"No one wants to hear that on here. The lockdown was brilliant and that's that.You cannot close your eyes to the effects of this virus they will effect life and society for a generations.To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

So will the effects of the lockdown, possibly more so.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"We treated over 3000 chemo patients during the last 20 weeks for their regular planned care Chemo treatments.

We also cared for many palliative care patients along with a First wedding in our hospital.

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Different postcodes, different criteria.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sadly, the experts have pointed out that the opportunities to order NHS and Care Services supplies including PPE, prepare for the pandemic fully and more, were decided by the government not to be undertaken at the start of the pandemic. This meant that the whole service was ill-fated to be able to sustain the levels of infection that overloaded it early on, including service suspensions for other conditions. A few days ago Johnson stated that he'd not read the report from the pandemic readiness tests that were run in 2016/8, which pinpointed how we would not cope with a viral epidemic.

Health services had imposed real-terms cuts to funding from 2010, that have impacted on the overall ability of health and care services to be be able to operate just at the levels that they had been doing. We get what we pay and vote for and have now realised more than ever, just how important our health and support services are. It's tragic that so many more people than the tens of thousands who have died from covid19, are so gravely affected by this catastrophe. The partial lockdown appears to have prevented a much greater level of catastrophe but we should recognise the broader impact of it, not just of those who became ill or died directly via covid-19.

I think that tax changes will be needed to help us to get service levels similar to Germany, some Scandinavian countries and elsewhere, where health investment is a higher priority. "

Germanys investment is in manufacturing, why do you think big pharma make their drugs there? We can't compete with that scale and you would be relying on big Pharma to move complex operations to the UK. No chance.

Also stop moaning about PPE you can't pay for every report recommendation. There will be a report saying nuclear war may happen. Shall the UK just incase become the world leader in making those weapons because a report said so. Also if there wasn't a pandemic people would be moaning about 100m worth of PPE going to landfil cos it didn't get used.

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