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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If we can reduce the reproduction rate further, surely that’s a good thing right?

The government may be still umming and ahhhing about it, but if you’re a responsible citizen you should do your part in making sure you’re protecting other citizens.

It’s not a question about freedom or liberty.

Do you think people stayed out during air raids during the blitz? No, they went to a shelter when they heard a sirens.

If the R rate is the siren, washing hands, social distancing and wearing face masks are the shelter!

Once its over we can swing away and enjoy the good times again!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's just a sensible thing to do. Other countries have been doing it for some time.

I can empathise with those who, if they cover their nose and mouth, will feel restrictive of breath.

Last year in hospital I was very poorly. When an oxygen mask was put on me, I felt like something was trying to suffocate me. I couldn't feel, smell or hear the oxygen so I fought to get the mask off. Fortunately I fell unconscious. But my point was that fear was very real.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm old enough to remember the old Protect & Survive pamphlets from the cold war era, almost 40 years on we all now know it was bollox, a panacea to distract the masses into thinking they could survive a nuclear attack - that would in any sane world never come - on the UK.

In forty years time, hopefully sooner people will wake up to this population control that is the facemask.

Section 21 of the Covid Act 2020 is draconian stuff, conform or face arrest & removal, to who knows where, I think that's sub clause 3.2 of S21.

Draconian measures for a virus that's less harmful than seasonal flu, and now we're learning about the 'double counting' of deaths & all sorts of goings on with falsified causes of death on death certificates?

Deaths actually peaked in lockdown and how many were wearing face masks then?

No, face masks is the 20's version of Protect & Survive and the virus is disappearing quite rapidly but still Westminster want to turn the UK into China.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm old enough to remember the old Protect & Survive pamphlets from the cold war era, almost 40 years on we all now know it was bollox, a panacea to distract the masses into thinking they could survive a nuclear attack - that would in any sane world never come - on the UK.

In forty years time, hopefully sooner people will wake up to this population control that is the facemask.

Section 21 of the Covid Act 2020 is draconian stuff, conform or face arrest & removal, to who knows where, I think that's sub clause 3.2 of S21.

Draconian measures for a virus that's less harmful than seasonal flu, and now we're learning about the 'double counting' of deaths & all sorts of goings on with falsified causes of death on death certificates?

Deaths actually peaked in lockdown and how many were wearing face masks then?

No, face masks is the 20's version of Protect & Survive and the virus is disappearing quite rapidly but still Westminster want to turn the UK into China."

Face masks and population control? Do tell.

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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago

birmingham

Matt Wanksock admitted they are just to give people more confidence. There is no reason to think they will have any measurable effect

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

I've only worn one once to my gp. I understand that there are fors and against and different opinions. I will wear one and try not to fiddle with it too much. I do feel shop staff should wear them too, though

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By *unloversCouple
over a year ago

rotherham

Does that mean me.....lol

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Matt Wanksock admitted they are just to give people more confidence. There is no reason to think they will have any measurable effect"

It will have the adverse effect on me, I will continue to shop on line, where I can.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Does that mean me.....lol"

No, you can do anything you like I mean supermarkets, I've been shopping for 3 households, so spend more than an hour in there, at the moment. Not keen on online grocery shopping

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By *unloversCouple
over a year ago

rotherham

Well we may have to wear them next week which doesn’t bother me at all but have been told we’d d t need to but the customers do

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By *xx90292Man
over a year ago

London

From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Well we may have to wear them next week which doesn’t bother me at all but have been told we’d d t need to but the customers do"

They're uncomfortable and I wouldn't want to wear one all day.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. "

Oh well done you!

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"If we can reduce the reproduction rate further, surely that’s a good thing right?

The government may be still umming and ahhhing about it, but if you’re a responsible citizen you should do your part in making sure you’re protecting other citizens.

It’s not a question about freedom or liberty.

Do you think people stayed out during air raids during the blitz? No, they went to a shelter when they heard a sirens.

If the R rate is the siren, washing hands, social distancing and wearing face masks are the shelter!

Once its over we can swing away and enjoy the good times again!"

Apart from

It's not going to be over is it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For those not wanting to wear one you can down load a exemption form fill it in anxiety from wearing a mask is a legitimate reason to not wear one. Then when asked about your lack of face mask you can produce your exemption card/smart phone and carry on your normal day shopping or you can just wear a face mask up to you.

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By *xx90292Man
over a year ago

London


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing.

Oh well done you! "

Thanks ??

I wonder if I’ll get a cup of tea and a biscuit?!

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing.

Oh well done you!

Thanks ??

I wonder if I’ll get a cup of tea and a biscuit?!"

Well you deserve at least that! It's a great thing to do . Have you had an antibody test?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"If we can reduce the reproduction rate further, surely that’s a good thing right?

The government may be still umming and ahhhing about it, but if you’re a responsible citizen you should do your part in making sure you’re protecting other citizens.

It’s not a question about freedom or liberty.

Do you think people stayed out during air raids during the blitz? No, they went to a shelter when they heard a sirens.

If the R rate is the siren, washing hands, social distancing and wearing face masks are the shelter!

Once its over we can swing away and enjoy the good times again!"

Like it.

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By *xx90292Man
over a year ago

London


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing.

Oh well done you!

Thanks ??

I wonder if I’ll get a cup of tea and a biscuit?!

Well you deserve at least that! It's a great thing to do . Have you had an antibody test?"

No I’m hoping that’s all part of the procedure.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I'm old enough to remember the old Protect & Survive pamphlets from the cold war era, almost 40 years on we all now know it was bollox, a panacea to distract the masses into thinking they could survive a nuclear attack - that would in any sane world never come - on the UK.

In forty years time, hopefully sooner people will wake up to this population control that is the facemask.

Section 21 of the Covid Act 2020 is draconian stuff, conform or face arrest & removal, to who knows where, I think that's sub clause 3.2 of S21.

Draconian measures for a virus that's less harmful than seasonal flu, and now we're learning about the 'double counting' of deaths & all sorts of goings on with falsified causes of death on death certificates?

Deaths actually peaked in lockdown and how many were wearing face masks then?

No, face masks is the 20's version of Protect & Survive and the virus is disappearing quite rapidly but still Westminster want to turn the UK into China."

No, you can't compare wearing a face mask with any form of control. Let's have the debate about the Burka if that were the case. I'm the first to be contrarian and if there were any benefit whatsoever for a govt in getting its population to wear a face covering, when it invalidates all of the surveillance cameras... I may be able to agree... But what possible benefit can there be to a government in so doing?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing.

Oh well done you!

Thanks ??

I wonder if I’ll get a cup of tea and a biscuit?!

Well you deserve at least that! It's a great thing to do . Have you had an antibody test?

No I’m hoping that’s all part of the procedure. "
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That's interesting, it would be good to know if there is immunity after the virus

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"For those not wanting to wear one you can down load a exemption form fill it in anxiety from wearing a mask is a legitimate reason to not wear one. Then when asked about your lack of face mask you can produce your exemption card/smart phone and carry on your normal day shopping or you can just wear a face mask up to you. "

Hopefully they will have to be endorsed by a medical professional who will question such claims and kick out the spurious ones.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Matt Wanksock admitted they are just to give people more confidence. There is no reason to think they will have any measurable effect"

Matt Wanksock ( ) is a politician.

He knows nothing about anything, so I'd just ignore anything he says that hasn't been written down in easy letters...

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"For those not wanting to wear one you can down load a exemption form fill it in anxiety from wearing a mask is a legitimate reason to not wear one. Then when asked about your lack of face mask you can produce your exemption card/smart phone and carry on your normal day shopping or you can just wear a face mask up to you.

Hopefully they will have to be endorsed by a medical professional who will question such claims and kick out the spurious ones."

My understanding is that they don't need to be and medical professionals are busy enough without endorsing thousands of exemption applications.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs


"For those not wanting to wear one you can down load a exemption form fill it in anxiety from wearing a mask is a legitimate reason to not wear one. Then when asked about your lack of face mask you can produce your exemption card/smart phone and carry on your normal day shopping or you can just wear a face mask up to you. "
what site do you download it from ?

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

Apparently Tesco aren't going to hassle anyone.

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By *xx90292Man
over a year ago

London


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing.

Oh well done you!

Thanks ??

I wonder if I’ll get a cup of tea and a biscuit?!

Well you deserve at least that! It's a great thing to do . Have you had an antibody test?

No I’m hoping that’s all part of the procedure. ,

That's interesting, it would be good to know if there is immunity after the virus "

Definitely!

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For those not wanting to wear one you can down load a exemption form fill it in anxiety from wearing a mask is a legitimate reason to not wear one. Then when asked about your lack of face mask you can produce your exemption card/smart phone and carry on your normal day shopping or you can just wear a face mask up to you. what site do you download it from ? "
loads just Google it London transport he it on there website.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm old enough to remember the old Protect & Survive pamphlets from the cold war era, almost 40 years on we all now know it was bollox, a panacea to distract the masses into thinking they could survive a nuclear attack - that would in any sane world never come - on the UK.

In forty years time, hopefully sooner people will wake up to this population control that is the facemask.

Section 21 of the Covid Act 2020 is draconian stuff, conform or face arrest & removal, to who knows where, I think that's sub clause 3.2 of S21.

Draconian measures for a virus that's less harmful than seasonal flu, and now we're learning about the 'double counting' of deaths & all sorts of goings on with falsified causes of death on death certificates?

Deaths actually peaked in lockdown and how many were wearing face masks then?

No, face masks is the 20's version of Protect & Survive and the virus is disappearing quite rapidly but still Westminster want to turn the UK into China.

Face masks and population control? Do tell. "

Admittedly some people are scared that this is some question of infringement on their freedom. But how are you going to enjoy that freedom if you get affected by the virus?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. "
So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????"

Maybe they care about thier loved ones catching it. Some are not all me me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It takes 0 effort to wear a mask. If you're struggling the breathe while wearing a mask then you clearly have other underlying health issues so you should not be going to crowded places full stop.

If you believe the stupid conspriracy theories I suggest you stop smoking the green stuff.

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By *nked_kittenWoman
over a year ago

Ankh Morpork


"It takes 0 effort to wear a mask. If you're struggling the breathe while wearing a mask then you clearly have other underlying health issues so you should not be going to crowded places full stop.

If you believe the stupid conspriracy theories I suggest you stop smoking the green stuff."

I was on the central line the other day and between the heat and the mask I struggled a lot and felt really ill by the time I got out of the station and could take my mask off and it wasn’t even busy.

So sometimes it does take effort to wear a mask.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It takes 0 effort to wear a mask. If you're struggling the breathe while wearing a mask then you clearly have other underlying health issues so you should not be going to crowded places full stop.

If you believe the stupid conspriracy theories I suggest you stop smoking the green stuff.

I was on the central line the other day and between the heat and the mask I struggled a lot and felt really ill by the time I got out of the station and could take my mask off and it wasn’t even busy.

So sometimes it does take effort to wear a mask. "

The Central line's a special case as it's always very hot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????

Maybe they care about thier loved ones catching it. Some are not all me me "
So you get the flu and stay away from granny, you get over the flu and go see her because it's OK now I have had it. That's how virus work. If CV19 doesn't work like that you're saying it's not a natural virus?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????

Maybe they care about thier loved ones catching it. Some are not all me me So you get the flu and stay away from granny, you get over the flu and go see her because it's OK now I have had it. That's how virus work. If CV19 doesn't work like that you're saying it's not a natural virus?"

Try the bigger picture instead of thinking me me me...if every one wears a mask thier is less chance of granny picking it up from someone else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watch the surgeon on Twitter videoing himself on a oxygen monitor before and during wearing a mask!

No drop in oxygen levels at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you want to save the world then wear an approved mask, not something you got out of your sock draw. If you can stop the virus with an old scarf we will be back to normal by the weekend. Haha you couldn't make it up.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs


"If you want to save the world then wear an approved mask, not something you got out of your sock draw. If you can stop the virus with an old scarf we will be back to normal by the weekend. Haha you couldn't make it up. "
Exactly some old bit of rag over your mouth is probably very likely to be a health hazard, PPE approved masks are the things to have if you really care not some dust mask

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For those not wanting to wear one you can down load a exemption form fill it in anxiety from wearing a mask is a legitimate reason to not wear one. Then when asked about your lack of face mask you can produce your exemption card/smart phone and carry on your normal day shopping or you can just wear a face mask up to you. "

Let’s hope the exemption certificate covers people to not have an oxygen mask in hospitals, gotta think of the old mental health.

Or will it be a case of ‘oh I’m comfortable with it now’

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Apparently Tesco aren't going to hassle anyone. "

Spoken to them today and we are expected to wear masks, but they won't question you if you don't.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????"

Why do you think they must be immune?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm asthmatic, not a chance in hell am I wearing a face mask, too restrictive and not risking an asthma attack for no one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????

Why do you think they must be immune? "
If not why use there blood to cure other's?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????

Why do you think they must be immune? If not why use there blood to cure other's?"

If you read the post. They are donating plasma for testing.

There is no evidence that if you have had the virus, you have developed antibodies, there is no evidence yet that if you have developed antibodies, that it will provide any immunity and there is no evidence yet that if you have a level of immunity, how long that immunity will last.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????"

This isn't true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????

Maybe they care about thier loved ones catching it. Some are not all me me So you get the flu and stay away from granny, you get over the flu and go see her because it's OK now I have had it. That's how virus work. If CV19 doesn't work like that you're saying it's not a natural virus?"

Being new, the immunity duration is being looked into.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????"

They are collecting plasma to test if it can help others. I could have missed it, but I'm not sure any of the professionals have confirmed immunity, if you've had the virus, or indeed how long that immunity lasts, so we don't know if we can catch it again. If you've read otherwise, please let me know where you've read that, so I can bring myself up to date, thank you

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????

Why do you think they must be immune? If not why use there blood to cure other's?

If you read the post. They are donating plasma for testing.

There is no evidence that if you have had the virus, you have developed antibodies, there is no evidence yet that if you have developed antibodies, that it will provide any immunity and there is no evidence yet that if you have a level of immunity, how long that immunity will last. "

Sorry just repeated what you said!

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Now discussing this on BBC news.So about 95% of people who have had the virus may get an antibody response. It's unclear how long this lasts, but appears antibody levels drop after 3 months. Immunity still unclear at the moment.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. "

Great thing to do!

Wearing a face mask isn't to protect you, it's to prevent you spreading it, because so many people don't show symptoms, wearing masks will reduce the risk of those people passing it on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It takes 0 effort to wear a mask. If you're struggling the breathe while wearing a mask then you clearly have other underlying health issues so you should not be going to crowded places full stop.

If you believe the stupid conspriracy theories I suggest you stop smoking the green stuff."

So your saying people with asthma shouldn't live their lifes because they cant wear a mask

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????

Why do you think they must be immune? If not why use there blood to cure other's?

If you read the post. They are donating plasma for testing.

There is no evidence that if you have had the virus, you have developed antibodies, there is no evidence yet that if you have developed antibodies, that it will provide any immunity and there is no evidence yet that if you have a level of immunity, how long that immunity will last. "

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Matt Wanksock admitted they are just to give people more confidence. There is no reason to think they will have any measurable effect

It will have the adverse effect on me, I will continue to shop on line, where I can.

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Agreed here.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????

Why do you think they must be immune? If not why use there blood to cure other's?

If you read the post. They are donating plasma for testing.

There is no evidence that if you have had the virus, you have developed antibodies, there is no evidence yet that if you have developed antibodies, that it will provide any immunity and there is no evidence yet that if you have a level of immunity, how long that immunity will last. "

It's the way it is unfortunately..they obviously are working on it, hence the plasma testing

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Matt Wanksock admitted they are just to give people more confidence. There is no reason to think they will have any measurable effect

It will have the adverse effect on me, I will continue to shop on line, where I can.

Agreed here. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It takes 0 effort to wear a mask. If you're struggling the breathe while wearing a mask then you clearly have other underlying health issues so you should not be going to crowded places full stop.

If you believe the stupid conspriracy theories I suggest you stop smoking the green stuff.

So your saying people with asthma shouldn't live their lifes because they cant wear a mask "

No, I did not say that. I said:

"If you can't wear a mask because you have underlying health issues then you shouldn't be going to crowded places."

Wearing a face mask is only an issue for those with *severe* asthma. The type which hospitalises someone.

These aren't normal times, so no, we aren't entitled to live our 'normal' lives during this pandemic. This sort of entitlement is one of the reasons why the virus is spreading in some places.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It takes 0 effort to wear a mask. If you're struggling the breathe while wearing a mask then you clearly have other underlying health issues so you should not be going to crowded places full stop.

If you believe the stupid conspriracy theories I suggest you stop smoking the green stuff.

So your saying people with asthma shouldn't live their lifes because they cant wear a mask

No, I did not say that. I said:

"If you can't wear a mask because you have underlying health issues then you shouldn't be going to crowded places."

Wearing a face mask is only an issue for those with *severe* asthma. The type which hospitalises someone.

These aren't normal times, so no, we aren't entitled to live our 'normal' lives during this pandemic. This sort of entitlement is one of the reasons why the virus is spreading in some places."

Only an issue for people with severe asthma?

You know this because ?

Some people talk so much crap on here without actually know what they are talking about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It takes 0 effort to wear a mask. If you're struggling the breathe while wearing a mask then you clearly have other underlying health issues so you should not be going to crowded places full stop.

If you believe the stupid conspriracy theories I suggest you stop smoking the green stuff.

So your saying people with asthma shouldn't live their lifes because they cant wear a mask

No, I did not say that. I said:

"If you can't wear a mask because you have underlying health issues then you shouldn't be going to crowded places."

Wearing a face mask is only an issue for those with *severe* asthma. The type which hospitalises someone.

These aren't normal times, so no, we aren't entitled to live our 'normal' lives during this pandemic. This sort of entitlement is one of the reasons why the virus is spreading in some places.

Only an issue for people with severe asthma?

You know this because ?

Some people talk so much crap on here without actually know what they are talking about."

Sure do. He's clearly an asthma doctor..... Not!... ignore him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It takes 0 effort to wear a mask. If you're struggling the breathe while wearing a mask then you clearly have other underlying health issues so you should not be going to crowded places full stop.

If you believe the stupid conspriracy theories I suggest you stop smoking the green stuff.

So your saying people with asthma shouldn't live their lifes because they cant wear a mask

No, I did not say that. I said:

"If you can't wear a mask because you have underlying health issues then you shouldn't be going to crowded places."

Wearing a face mask is only an issue for those with *severe* asthma. The type which hospitalises someone.

These aren't normal times, so no, we aren't entitled to live our 'normal' lives during this pandemic. This sort of entitlement is one of the reasons why the virus is spreading in some places.

Only an issue for people with severe asthma?

You know this because ?

Some people talk so much crap on here without actually know what they are talking about.

Sure do. He's clearly an asthma doctor..... Not!... ignore him "

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton


" But what possible benefit can there be to a government in so doing? "

The revenue from the sale of face masks in the economy ?

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

Interesting about mask hype, starts off with schools but gets onto masks

https://t.co/ZqdomPDwAo?amp=1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It takes 0 effort to wear a mask. If you're struggling the breathe while wearing a mask then you clearly have other underlying health issues so you should not be going to crowded places full stop.

If you believe the stupid conspriracy theories I suggest you stop smoking the green stuff.

So your saying people with asthma shouldn't live their lifes because they cant wear a mask

No, I did not say that. I said:

"If you can't wear a mask because you have underlying health issues then you shouldn't be going to crowded places."

Wearing a face mask is only an issue for those with *severe* asthma. The type which hospitalises someone.

These aren't normal times, so no, we aren't entitled to live our 'normal' lives during this pandemic. This sort of entitlement is one of the reasons why the virus is spreading in some places.

Only an issue for people with severe asthma?

You know this because ?

Some people talk so much crap on here without actually know what they are talking about."

Both the Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America and Asthma UK say this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative "

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

"

I am quoting websites dedicated to asthma sufferers in the UK and USA. They know what they are talking about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

I am quoting websites dedicated to asthma sufferers in the UK and USA. They know what they are talking about "

So my wife a life long asthma sufferer doesn't know what she is talking about.

Silly man .

Keep googling.

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By *az080378Woman
over a year ago

Cromer


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

I am quoting websites dedicated to asthma sufferers in the UK and USA. They know what they are talking about

So my wife a life long asthma sufferer doesn't know what she is talking about.

Silly man .

Keep googling. "

There are alot of asthma sufferers that can and do wear masks though....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

I am quoting websites dedicated to asthma sufferers in the UK and USA. They know what they are talking about

So my wife a life long asthma sufferer doesn't know what she is talking about.

Silly man .

Keep googling.

There are alot of asthma sufferers that can and do wear masks though...."

We are happy for them.

But that poster offended my wife when he said only severe sufferers should were them.

He has no clue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The concept of wearing a face mask to reduce the risk of transmission makes complete sense.

If I am with my partner and we are both naked and I piss all over her she gets very wet

If I am naked and she is clothed she gets less wet

If I am clothed and she is clothed she is unlikely to get very wet at all

So wearing a face mask if you can just makes sense for a disease that is transmitted through droplets and in aerosol form. Let’s hope it becomes common sense.

As for conspiracy theories about government control they make no sense.

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By *az080378Woman
over a year ago

Cromer


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

I am quoting websites dedicated to asthma sufferers in the UK and USA. They know what they are talking about

So my wife a life long asthma sufferer doesn't know what she is talking about.

Silly man .

Keep googling.

There are alot of asthma sufferers that can and do wear masks though....

We are happy for them.

But that poster offended my wife when he said only severe sufferers should were them.

He has no clue."

He wasn't saying only severe asthma sufferers should wear masks from what I gather he was saying that for those with severe asthma they may be exempt from wearing one due to the severity of their illness, the same with copd and I'd imagine most other severe respiratory conditions.

But then the advice to those people is currently to stay at home as far as I'm aware.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Now discussing this on BBC news.So about 95% of people who have had the virus may get an antibody response. It's unclear how long this lasts, but appears antibody levels drop after 3 months. Immunity still unclear at the moment."

Think I read lower numbers than that somewhere but I'm sure we are getting daily changes as we learn more. What I saw in one article was how youngsters immune response differs to more mature peoples response. The article pertained to why it was that younger people tended not to catch it, get ill from it if they did catch it, and spread it if they had caught it. Hopefully somebody here will know more about it... Think it was to do with the maturity of the t cell mechanism in the individuals?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"The concept of wearing a face mask to reduce the risk of transmission makes complete sense.

If I am with my partner and we are both naked and I piss all over her she gets very wet

If I am naked and she is clothed she gets less wet

If I am clothed and she is clothed she is unlikely to get very wet at all

So wearing a face mask if you can just makes sense for a disease that is transmitted through droplets and in aerosol form. Let’s hope it becomes common sense.

As for conspiracy theories about government control they make no sense."

Hallelujah!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

I am quoting websites dedicated to asthma sufferers in the UK and USA. They know what they are talking about

So my wife a life long asthma sufferer doesn't know what she is talking about.

Silly man .

Keep googling.

There are alot of asthma sufferers that can and do wear masks though....

We are happy for them.

But that poster offended my wife when he said only severe sufferers should were them.

He has no clue.

He wasn't saying only severe asthma sufferers should wear masks from what I gather he was saying that for those with severe asthma they may be exempt from wearing one due to the severity of their illness, the same with copd and I'd imagine most other severe respiratory conditions.

But then the advice to those people is currently to stay at home as far as I'm aware."

He said only those with severe asthma are exempt.

It's there in black and white.

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

uk


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

I am quoting websites dedicated to asthma sufferers in the UK and USA. They know what they are talking about

So my wife a life long asthma sufferer doesn't know what she is talking about.

Silly man .

Keep googling. "

I would tend to follow the advice of those dedicated websites than some random off the internet. As someone in a similar position with care of someone with a condition I would always take the advice from the dedicated sites even if the sites were accessible through Google. Are you suggesting what was quoted is nonsense because it was googled.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

I am quoting websites dedicated to asthma sufferers in the UK and USA. They know what they are talking about

So my wife a life long asthma sufferer doesn't know what she is talking about.

Silly man .

Keep googling.

I would tend to follow the advice of those dedicated websites than some random off the internet. As someone in a similar position with care of someone with a condition I would always take the advice from the dedicated sites even if the sites were accessible through Google. Are you suggesting what was quoted is nonsense because it was googled."

We would rather listen to a doctor rather than a google expert.

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By *az080378Woman
over a year ago

Cromer


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

I am quoting websites dedicated to asthma sufferers in the UK and USA. They know what they are talking about

So my wife a life long asthma sufferer doesn't know what she is talking about.

Silly man .

Keep googling.

I would tend to follow the advice of those dedicated websites than some random off the internet. As someone in a similar position with care of someone with a condition I would always take the advice from the dedicated sites even if the sites were accessible through Google. Are you suggesting what was quoted is nonsense because it was googled.

We would rather listen to a doctor rather than a google expert."

I think alot of the dedicated sites are based on medical evidence.

The key thing is obviously to try and keep asthma well controlled at the moment,masks can feel very restrictive to many people but there are lots of different types that may make breathing feel easier so it's recommended to try Various styles until you find one that suits you.

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

uk


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

I am quoting websites dedicated to asthma sufferers in the UK and USA. They know what they are talking about

So my wife a life long asthma sufferer doesn't know what she is talking about.

Silly man .

Keep googling.

I would tend to follow the advice of those dedicated websites than some random off the internet. As someone in a similar position with care of someone with a condition I would always take the advice from the dedicated sites even if the sites were accessible through Google. Are you suggesting what was quoted is nonsense because it was googled.

We would rather listen to a doctor rather than a google expert."

You are missing the point. The poster said that only those with severe asthma shouldn't wear a face masks. That's the general advice for people with asthma and the sites mentioned do state this. Googling can be used to find accurate information. Wiki wasn't quoted.

If in your situation, a doctor has said not to wear one then that's absolutely fine. What I would say is, if this is a GP rather than a consultant, I would tend to follow the advice of the experts from asthma uk...

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

uk


"You're free to search for that on those websites. Obviously it doesn't feed the conspiracy theory narrative

So not personal experience just a goggle expert .

Hmm ok.

You dont seem to understand what asthma is and how it affects people.

Dont send us more website links lol.

I am quoting websites dedicated to asthma sufferers in the UK and USA. They know what they are talking about

So my wife a life long asthma sufferer doesn't know what she is talking about.

Silly man .

Keep googling.

I would tend to follow the advice of those dedicated websites than some random off the internet. As someone in a similar position with care of someone with a condition I would always take the advice from the dedicated sites even if the sites were accessible through Google. Are you suggesting what was quoted is nonsense because it was googled.

We would rather listen to a doctor rather than a google expert.

I think alot of the dedicated sites are based on medical evidence.

The key thing is obviously to try and keep asthma well controlled at the moment,masks can feel very restrictive to many people but there are lots of different types that may make breathing feel easier so it's recommended to try Various styles until you find one that suits you."

Exactly, these sites arent random bloggers voicing their opinions based on their own individual experiences.

I use a dedicated site for advice on a condition because it's run by experts. My GP barely knows a thing about the condition.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Now discussing this on BBC news.So about 95% of people who have had the virus may get an antibody response. It's unclear how long this lasts, but appears antibody levels drop after 3 months. Immunity still unclear at the moment.

Think I read lower numbers than that somewhere but I'm sure we are getting daily changes as we learn more. What I saw in one article was how youngsters immune response differs to more mature peoples response. The article pertained to why it was that younger people tended not to catch it, get ill from it if they did catch it, and spread it if they had caught it. Hopefully somebody here will know more about it... Think it was to do with the maturity of the t cell mechanism in the individuals? "

That was Patrick Vallance speaking. Lots of differing opinions though!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

After reading the posts it will difficult for some to wear face masks, due to other respiratory illnesses, for those who can it should be our duty to wear face coverings to prevent inadvertely spreading the virus.

I do not know about many of you but I would feel horrible if I ever had the virus and it caused some to get sick and die.

We all have a collective responsibility to ensure that a second spike does not occur, and move to some sense of normality.

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By *nowsleyladMan
over a year ago

NW

Are people that stupid to be comparing a virus (the flu) to hearing a siren for an air raid? Really though?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"After reading the posts it will difficult for some to wear face masks, due to other respiratory illnesses, for those who can it should be our duty to wear face coverings to prevent inadvertely spreading the virus.

I do not know about many of you but I would feel horrible if I ever had the virus and it caused some to get sick and die.

We all have a collective responsibility to ensure that a second spike does not occur, and move to some sense of normality."

Great point. I know there are a few people who for their own reasons don't want to and a few who for health reasons can't. There's a great 3 minute video by Thomas Moore on sky news, pretty balanced, and explains why they are on balance a good thing.

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria

I’ve been wearing a mask to go shopping since the middle of March and don’t get why people are waiting until the 25th to start.

A comment I read on a Spanish forum is what sticks with me the most, it said, For those of you who don’t ‘like’ wearing a mask your really not going to enjoy being on the ventilator!

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

A side note about face coverings, does anybody care about the environmental impacts of all the ones that will get thrown in the trash and end up polluting the oceans and having a negative impact on wildlife?

And also does at a time when Leicester sweat shops are righlty under fire in the media, does anyone stop and think about where their muzzle was made and by whom?

If the makers of £5 dresses are on a pittance what chances do the makers of £1 face coverings have?

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria


"A side note about face coverings, does anybody care about the environmental impacts of all the ones that will get thrown in the trash and end up polluting the oceans and having a negative impact on wildlife?

And also does at a time when Leicester sweat shops are righlty under fire in the media, does anyone stop and think about where their muzzle was made and by whom?

If the makers of £5 dresses are on a pittance what chances do the makers of £1 face coverings have? "

We do that’s why we have the washable ones. We went a walk local to us and in ten minutes saw 5 discarded masks and a pair of knickers on the floor, not sure if the knickers had been a face covering or somebody had been having a naughty time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A side note about face coverings, does anybody care about the environmental impacts of all the ones that will get thrown in the trash and end up polluting the oceans and having a negative impact on wildlife?

And also does at a time when Leicester sweat shops are righlty under fire in the media, does anyone stop and think about where their muzzle was made and by whom?

If the makers of £5 dresses are on a pittance what chances do the makers of £1 face coverings have?

We do that’s why we have the washable ones. We went a walk local to us and in ten minutes saw 5 discarded masks and a pair of knickers on the floor, not sure if the knickers had been a face covering or somebody had been having a naughty time "

Them bloody doggers eh

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"

No, you can't compare wearing a face mask with any form of control. Let's have the debate about the Burka if that were the case."

You think a burka isn't about control?

How naive is that?

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall

I shall wear a face covering - probably a scarf or something similar on the odd occasion I have to go to a shop because the law requires it. Apart from that I'm happy keeping my distance from anyone.

The downside is, I will now only go to any shop when absolutely necessary & if I can't get something online. Any off the cuff purchases I might have previously made just popping into a high Street shop won't be happening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be hard to spit a dummy out with a mask on

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"A side note about face coverings, does anybody care about the environmental impacts of all the ones that will get thrown in the trash and end up polluting the oceans and having a negative impact on wildlife?

And also does at a time when Leicester sweat shops are righlty under fire in the media, does anyone stop and think about where their muzzle was made and by whom?

If the makers of £5 dresses are on a pittance what chances do the makers of £1 face coverings have? "

Of course, but one does not excuse the other.

Be responsible, wear a face mask, and take your rubbish home with you... Including face masks, condoms, kfc wrapper et al. Not very difficult.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"A side note about face coverings, does anybody care about the environmental impacts of all the ones that will get thrown in the trash and end up polluting the oceans and having a negative impact on wildlife?

And also does at a time when Leicester sweat shops are righlty under fire in the media, does anyone stop and think about where their muzzle was made and by whom?

If the makers of £5 dresses are on a pittance what chances do the makers of £1 face coverings have?

Of course, but one does not excuse the other.

Be responsible, wear a face mask, and take your rubbish home with you... Including face masks, condoms, kfc wrapper et al. Not very difficult. "

Even when taken home they still need to be disposed of. Are they recyclable or destined for landfill etc?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A side note about face coverings, does anybody care about the environmental impacts of all the ones that will get thrown in the trash and end up polluting the oceans and having a negative impact on wildlife?

And also does at a time when Leicester sweat shops are righlty under fire in the media, does anyone stop and think about where their muzzle was made and by whom?

If the makers of £5 dresses are on a pittance what chances do the makers of £1 face coverings have?

Of course, but one does not excuse the other.

Be responsible, wear a face mask, and take your rubbish home with you... Including face masks, condoms, kfc wrapper et al. Not very difficult.

Even when taken home they still need to be disposed of. Are they recyclable or destined for landfill etc?"

I almost certain theres a whole thread on how to dispose them

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By *razyhappyguys04Couple
over a year ago

London.

Not a big fan of face coverings as you get a lot of people wearing the same mask all the time. Also touching infected surfaces then touching the face and mask then breathing that virus in . Simple keep your hands clean especially the idiots that wear a mask and don't wash there there hand after going toilet , ,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we can reduce the reproduction rate further, surely that’s a good thing right?

The government may be still umming and ahhhing about it, but if you’re a responsible citizen you should do your part in making sure you’re protecting other citizens.

It’s not a question about freedom or liberty.

Do you think people stayed out during air raids during the blitz? No, they went to a shelter when they heard a sirens.

If the R rate is the siren, washing hands, social distancing and wearing face masks are the shelter!

Once its over we can swing away and enjoy the good times again!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

told today by my daughter. Hong Kong back in lockdoen had 2 deaths. A total of 8 i think.

They wear masks to every place. Shame we didn't adopt the same procedure. If you break the rules 500 hkd fine no questions asked. Break quarantine and you are shipped off to jail. Should sort the non believers or rebels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From someone who’s had Covid, if wearing a face mask, however remote, stops me from getting it again I’m all for it.

Infact I’m going to give blood this afternoon for them to collect the plasma for testing. So you're giving blood to help others so you must be immune, so why you worrying about catching it????

Why do you think they must be immune? If not why use there blood to cure other's?"
Taking plasma from recovered sufferers is part of a clinical trial to see how effective convalescent plasma (plasma from people who’ve had coronavirus) is for treating coronavirus patients. There is no certainly about it yet.

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I wore a mak to shop in Asda today. Ok, it's not ideal, but it's an awful lot better than catching it spreading a potentially fatal virus which we have little understanding of.

If everyone who can wear one does, that also protects those who can't wear a face covering.

I fail to see why anyone would have an issue with this. Masks are also small enough to carry with you in case you just want to pop in somewhere.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"

If everyone who can wear one does, that also protects those who can't wear a face covering.

I fail to see why anyone would have an issue with this. Masks are also small enough to carry with you in case you just want to pop in somewhere. "

For a lot of people who are sceptical, it's not so much about wearing them on public transport or in shops which is the issue. The concern is that the government can't be trusted not to extend the measures further down the line to a point where muzzles have to be worn at all times in public.

The fear of the erosion of the basic right to choose what one wears is a real concern for many.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"

If everyone who can wear one does, that also protects those who can't wear a face covering.

I fail to see why anyone would have an issue with this. Masks are also small enough to carry with you in case you just want to pop in somewhere.

For a lot of people who are sceptical, it's not so much about wearing them on public transport or in shops which is the issue. The concern is that the government can't be trusted not to extend the measures further down the line to a point where muzzles have to be worn at all times in public.

The fear of the erosion of the basic right to choose what one wears is a real concern for many. "
It is this fear by the government that means they have been soft from day one it is pathetic.

People do not want rules yet they wonder why death toll etc is so high.We never even had a proper lock down

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"

If everyone who can wear one does, that also protects those who can't wear a face covering.

I fail to see why anyone would have an issue with this. Masks are also small enough to carry with you in case you just want to pop in somewhere.

For a lot of people who are sceptical, it's not so much about wearing them on public transport or in shops which is the issue. The concern is that the government can't be trusted not to extend the measures further down the line to a point where muzzles have to be worn at all times in public.

The fear of the erosion of the basic right to choose what one wears is a real concern for many. "

Muzzles have to worn at all times? What's a muzzle? There's never been any requirement to wear a muzzle. We are in a public health emergency, where we are trying, at least many peoe are trying to take responsibility for reducing the spread of the virus.

Now to your concern about conspiracy, I do at times worry about invasions of privacy, stealing of data and the digital age, the growing power of China, Russia, America, amazon and Google and so on... But for me personally, having a govt taking measurea to address this pandemic does not concern me. Having a govt that is not taking sufficient control to rescue it quickly enough is of greater concern to me.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Well we may have to wear them next week which doesn’t bother me at all but have been told we’d d t need to but the customers do

They're uncomfortable and I wouldn't want to wear one all day.

"

If it's elasticated straps try making an "ear saver" plenty of designs on Google

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"

If everyone who can wear one does, that also protects those who can't wear a face covering.

I fail to see why anyone would have an issue with this. Masks are also small enough to carry with you in case you just want to pop in somewhere.

For a lot of people who are sceptical, it's not so much about wearing them on public transport or in shops which is the issue. The concern is that the government can't be trusted not to extend the measures further down the line to a point where muzzles have to be worn at all times in public.

The fear of the erosion of the basic right to choose what one wears is a real concern for many. "

You can choose what to wear, any colour, any design of face covering is fine. Rights restored.

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By *ickthelick2001Man
over a year ago

nottingham

Masks are just a form of compliance, it’s not law it’s not a rule it’s a guideline only. You cannot be fined for not wearing one. Only a court can fine you.And they are shut !

Shop workers can’t get the convid whilst working, but can whilst shopping !!

Shoppers can get convid whilst shopping, but not whilst in the pub !!

You can get convid on a bus but not in a pub

It’s all absolute rubbish and based on brainwashing by creating confusion, and a further attempt to divide and weaken the populations resistance to what comrade boris and co are actually doing

Time to wake up and smell the coffee I think

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By *unloversCouple
over a year ago

rotherham

I work in a shop and have been told we can’t let customers in from Friday unless they are wearing a mask

I’m sure some won’t be happy about this so we await the abuse

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I work in a shop and have been told we can’t let customers in from Friday unless they are wearing a mask

I’m sure some won’t be happy about this so we await the abuse"

I hope that doesn't happen, no one deserves that xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Masks are just a form of compliance, it’s not law it’s not a rule it’s a guideline only. You cannot be fined for not wearing one. Only a court can fine you.And they are shut !

Shop workers can’t get the convid whilst working, but can whilst shopping !!

Shoppers can get convid whilst shopping, but not whilst in the pub !!

You can get convid on a bus but not in a pub

It’s all absolute rubbish and based on brainwashing by creating confusion, and a further attempt to divide and weaken the populations resistance to what comrade boris and co are actually doing

Time to wake up and smell the coffee I think

"

Why would masks weaken the populations resistance?

Antibiotic resistance to COVID19 only lasts a few months. And anyone who has caught it has had lasting affects to their respiratory system.

Wearing a mask is a very minor inconvenience. Much better than catching covid19, having temporary resistence (if you recover), and damage to your lungs for the rest of your life.

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By *ickthelick2001Man
over a year ago

nottingham

If covid 19 is a virus, no one has been treated with anti biotics, anti biotics are for bacteria and not a virus, !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If covid 19 is a virus, no one has been treated with anti biotics, anti biotics are for bacteria and not a virus, !!! "

Brain fart on my part. I meant resistance due to antibodies

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By *ickthelick2001Man
over a year ago

nottingham

where did you get that info from ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"where did you get that info from ? "

Temporary immunity: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/933803

Lasting damage: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2247086-the-coronavirus-is-leaving-some-people-with-permanent-lung-damage/

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


"If we can reduce the reproduction rate further, surely that’s a good thing right?

"

It makes zero difference. A pathogen will take it's natural course (just at varying speeds) until herd immunity is reached or a vaccine comes along. Lockdown was intended to stop the NHS being overwhelmed; somewhere along the line it morphed into 'stop the virus spreading'.

Ridiculous if you think about it. If a vaccine doesn't come along New Zealand will have to remain isolated for ever. All for a virus with an infection fatality rate similar to severe flu.

Many more people are killed from air pollution (including children - unlike CV19) each year in the UK but everyone is still driving their vehicles.

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land


"If covid 19 is a virus, no one has been treated with anti biotics, anti biotics are for bacteria and not a virus, !!! "
I

I've had covid, as have my children but no side effects.

We got grounded for 2 weeks and my dogs didn't get walked. That was it.

Not everyone suffers serious affects let alone long lasting affects In fact very few people even get any symptoms.

Paracetamol, fluids and sleep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work in a shop and have been told we can’t let customers in from Friday unless they are wearing a mask

I’m sure some won’t be happy about this so we await the abuse"

And filthy litter as people discard their masks in disgust as they leave the last shop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not like we've been asked to go over the top in the battle of the somme, or fight in the trenches, all we have been told is wear a mask, surely we can fucking do that can't we

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"It's not like we've been asked to go over the top in the battle of the somme, or fight in the trenches, all we have been told is wear a mask, surely we can fucking do that can't we"

I would have thought so

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"You cannot be fined for not wearing one. Only a court can fine you.And they are shut !

"

Let us know how you get on with that...

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"If covid 19 is a virus, no one has been treated with anti biotics, anti biotics are for bacteria and not a virus, !!! I

I've had covid, as have my children but no side effects.

We got grounded for 2 weeks and my dogs didn't get walked. That was it.

Not everyone suffers serious affects let alone long lasting affects In fact very few people even get any symptoms.

Paracetamol, fluids and sleep "

Good for you. Though you won't really know about any long term consequences yet. Hopefully none.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I work in a shop and have been told we can’t let customers in from Friday unless they are wearing a mask

I’m sure some won’t be happy about this so we await the abuse

And filthy litter as people discard their masks in disgust as they leave the last shop."

Sure but if they do that, they'd also be disgarding their empty crisp packets and cans. Not really much of an advert is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You cannot be fined for not wearing one. Only a court can fine you.And they are shut !

Let us know how you get on with that... "

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By *ice__blokeMan
over a year ago

redcar

I noticed the sunday papers - mail order ads the other week have started - offering medical face masks for a pack of 3 for £15 !!!!

So goto your local chemist £ 1.25 for one !

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By *istretchMan
over a year ago

leeds

Read somewhere the size of the covid germ is mamy many microns smaller than nearly all cloth face masks that are woven together . All the pics of the scientist in full hazmat suits when n dealing with covid

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"I work in a shop and have been told we can’t let customers in from Friday unless they are wearing a mask

I’m sure some won’t be happy about this so we await the abuse"

Me to, we have to man the doors and if someone hasn't got a mask on we have to say 'good morning, just to remind you that face coverings are now a legal requirement and you need to wear one if you want to shop in our store'. If they don't have one we can give them a single use one, if they have a medical reason that's ok but we cannot refuse entry.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Read somewhere the size of the covid germ is mamy many microns smaller than nearly all cloth face masks that are woven together . All the pics of the scientist in full hazmat suits when n dealing with covid "

The virus particles live in larger particles which can be trapped in a mask

Simplified version ...

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

Read somewhere that masks are a load of bullshit, and the so called experts are suffering from ass full of splinters syndrome prove me wrong....

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Read somewhere that masks are a load of bullshit, and the so called experts are suffering from ass full of splinters syndrome prove me wrong.... "

Try google

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"I noticed the sunday papers - mail order ads the other week have started - offering medical face masks for a pack of 3 for £15 !!!!

So goto your local chemist £ 1.25 for one !"

Medical grade or medical style?

There is a big difference!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I noticed the sunday papers - mail order ads the other week have started - offering medical face masks for a pack of 3 for £15 !!!!

So goto your local chemist £ 1.25 for one !

Medical grade or medical style?

There is a big difference!"

Not to get into a shop a scarf will do...

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Read somewhere that masks are a load of bullshit, and the so called experts are suffering from ass full of splinters syndrome prove me wrong.... "

You can read all sorts of crap if you look for it.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Got 80 masks for £40 from boots, they should last me a while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Got 80 masks for £40 from boots, they should last me a while "

Ten for a fiver not bad

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Got 80 masks for £40 from boots, they should last me a while

Ten for a fiver not bad"

Bet you're proud of me...

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"I noticed the sunday papers - mail order ads the other week have started - offering medical face masks for a pack of 3 for £15 !!!!

So goto your local chemist £ 1.25 for one !

Medical grade or medical style?

There is a big difference!

Not to get into a shop a scarf will do..."

So will pulling your t shirt up and above your nose and mouth

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights


"Read somewhere that masks are a load of bullshit, and the so called experts are suffering from ass full of splinters syndrome prove me wrong.... "

As per the reason for lockdown, face coverings are only there to try and slow the coronavirus down, not to stop us passing or recieving it. we can see how rife the virus is in the us and the more people that don't want to help slow it down by following basic guidelines, take us a step closer to high infection levels again.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"Read somewhere that masks are a load of bullshit, and the so called experts are suffering from ass full of splinters syndrome prove me wrong.... "

How about you prove the above is true?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Asian countries that are used to wearing masks as a normal daily routine have the lowest covid infection around the world

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By *andlingswingersCouple
over a year ago

Woodbridge

It's this simple: are you a selfish prat for whom everything is all about you (and I bet you voted Brexit - that's going to be a nice surprise, isn't it!?)? Yes? Then don't wear a mask.

No? Great. Wear a mask.

It's not about "masks don't stop you getting it." This is so simplistically childish that I can't believe adults actually say this, but then, they voted for an 80 seat majority so maybe I should.

It's about asymptomatic spread. You can have the virus for weeks and not know you have it. A mask drastically reduces the spread of the virus. It doesn't stop YOU getting it. It shows you're not a totally selfish arse and you don't want to take the chance of OTHER PEOPLE GETTING IT FROM YOU if you already have it. Which you might.

Still, 40 years of HMG screaming there's no such thing as society, and The Sun and Daily Mail still being allowed to call themselves newspapers and what can anyone expect, apart from a tidal wave of dimness and selfishness?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If one person speaks loudly, sneezes or coughs and he is wearing a mask there is some protection and reduces the infection rate. If the other person also wears a mask this reduces the infection rate even further. If neither person wears a mask it leads to infection rates rising and ultimitly death for some people.Not recognising this is very selfish and shows a lack of respect.

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"If one person speaks loudly, sneezes or coughs and he is wearing a mask there is some protection and reduces the infection rate. If the other person also wears a mask this reduces the infection rate even further. If neither person wears a mask it leads to infection rates rising and ultimitly death for some people.Not recognising this is very selfish and shows a lack of respect. "

Very well put

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you, I dispair at some people's thinking on this. It's a pandemic and we have to make adjustments so hopefully things improve

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

It's a shame we are allowed to post links to the daily mail but proper scientific studies aren't allowed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a shame we are allowed to post links to the daily mail but proper scientific studies aren't allowed."

Yep... I got a slap on the wrist for posting a link to a medical website debunking myths

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

Be smart, don't be like Karen

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Be smart, don't be like Karen "

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Be smart, don't be like Karen "

Who's Karen?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Be smart, don't be like Karen

Who's Karen?"

I believe she's on a popular social media site

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Be smart, don't be like Karen

Who's Karen?

I believe she's on a popular social media site

"

I've never heard of her

What's her surname?

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

Lol every knows Karen

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"It's a shame we are allowed to post links to the daily mail but proper scientific studies aren't allowed."

It is, but I can see the rationale behind the rule.

The mods have enough to do without having to check that a posted link doesn't point at malware or a conspiracy site pupporting to be a valid scientific study.

You also avoid the arguments around "you allowed his link but not mine".

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By *nowsleyladMan
over a year ago

NW


"

If everyone who can wear one does, that also protects those who can't wear a face covering.

I fail to see why anyone would have an issue with this. Masks are also small enough to carry with you in case you just want to pop in somewhere.

For a lot of people who are sceptical, it's not so much about wearing them on public transport or in shops which is the issue. The concern is that the government can't be trusted not to extend the measures further down the line to a point where muzzles have to be worn at all times in public.

The fear of the erosion of the basic right to choose what one wears is a real concern for many. "

And someone finally speaks some sense!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" For a lot of people who are sceptical, it's not so much about wearing them on public transport or in shops which is the issue. The concern is that the government can't be trusted not to extend the measures further down the line to a point where muzzles have to be worn at all times in public.

The fear of the erosion of the basic right to choose what one wears is a real concern for many.

And someone finally speaks some sense!!!"

What right is being infringed here?

What does the government have to gain by mandating the use of a mask to prevent the spread of coronavirus? What do you think their end game is?

It's not a muzzle, it's a mask. You can still talk as normal, it's not preventing you to do anything you wouldn't normally do in a public place.

There are many articles and studies online on reputable websites stating that masks do not decrease your oxygen intake, nor are you inhaling your expelled co2.

I would very much like to hear from anyone who believes these conspiracies. Looking forward to hearing a coherent, logical evidence based response.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some might say that the reason why face masks have suddenly been made compulsory is something to do with the fact that the Government has just bought 50 million of them.

Far be it from me to advance conspiracy theories though !

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

For a lot of people who are sceptical, it's not so much about wearing them on public transport or in shops which is the issue. The concern is that the government can't be trusted not to extend the measures further down the line to a point where muzzles have to be worn at all times in public.

The fear of the erosion of the basic right to choose what one wears is a real concern for many.

And someone finally speaks some sense!!!"

Really ???

And why exactly would world governments want to dictate what people wear?

What possible benefit could they get out of that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lol every knows Karen "

Karen who, what's her surname?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

For a lot of people who are sceptical, it's not so much about wearing them on public transport or in shops which is the issue. The concern is that the government can't be trusted not to extend the measures further down the line to a point where muzzles have to be worn at all times in public.

The fear of the erosion of the basic right to choose what one wears is a real concern for many.

And someone finally speaks some sense!!!

Really ???

And why exactly would world governments want to dictate what people wear?

What possible benefit could they get out of that?"

Yeah a silly post it was. Its a fucking pandemic and they are asking you to wear a face mask, not flares and moon boots for fuckks sake

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Some might say that the reason why face masks have suddenly been made compulsory is something to do with the fact that the Government has just bought 50 million of them.

Far be it from me to advance conspiracy theories though !"

That REALLY made me laugh

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Lol every knows Karen

Karen who, what's her surname?"

Try keeping up with the REAL news instead of the fake shite and you would know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lol every knows Karen

Karen who, what's her surname?

Try keeping up with the REAL news instead of the fake shite and you would know "

I do watch the real news and they haven't mentioned Karen.

Karen who? Karen Brady?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Yeah a silly post it was. Its a fucking pandemic and they are asking you to wear a face mask, not flares and moon boots for fuckks sake"

Shit !!!!

Is my bloody webcam on..?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Yeah a silly post it was. Its a fucking pandemic and they are asking you to wear a face mask, not flares and moon boots for fuckks sake

Shit !!!!

Is my bloody webcam on..? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shocked how many store staff are NOT wearing masks , went into house of Fraser, you have to use hand sanitizer as you walk in , signs up saying about wearing a face mask but hardly any staff were wearing one , stupid

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By *emmabTV/TS
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"It takes 0 effort to wear a mask. If you're struggling the breathe while wearing a mask then you clearly have other underlying health issues so you should not be going to crowded places full stop.

If you believe the stupid conspriracy theories I suggest you stop smoking the green stuff."

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Lol every knows Karen

Karen who, what's her surname?

Try keeping up with the REAL news instead of the fake shite and you would know

I do watch the real news and they haven't mentioned Karen.

Karen who? Karen Brady?"

She is probably trying to speak to the owners of fab about now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Karen Brady is a football director of a championship club she was a successful buisness woman when she married an American footballer phsychilido or something like that (all Americans are like that ha)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Birmingham maybe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Could be her,, pumped by a football team

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall


"Shocked how many store staff are NOT wearing masks , went into house of Fraser, you have to use hand sanitizer as you walk in , signs up saying about wearing a face mask but hardly any staff were wearing one , stupid "

But by law they don't have to, so doing nothing wrong.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"

For a lot of people who are sceptical, it's not so much about wearing them on public transport or in shops which is the issue. The concern is that the government can't be trusted not to extend the measures further down the line to a point where muzzles have to be worn at all times in public.

The fear of the erosion of the basic right to choose what one wears is a real concern for many.

And someone finally speaks some sense!!!

Really ???

And why exactly would world governments want to dictate what people wear?

What possible benefit could they get out of that?

Yeah a silly post it was. Its a fucking pandemic and they are asking you to wear a face mask, not flares and moon boots for fuckks sake"

Or a replica Liverpool shirt...

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