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"They say stay 2 meters apart but no way can i in a factory that is no space for this to happen " But the also said consider going back to work IF social distancing measures could be maintained. | |||
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"Been at work throughout.... not happy seeing everyone getting great tans, fantastic gardens, fully decorated houses whilst I do extra hours to cover the ones “working from home” Plus all those moaning on furlough to stay home " totally agree, i've worked throughout, can't maintain 2m all the time, no ppe provided, well unless you count one small bottle of hand sanitiser as i can't wash my hands for hours on end. i would love to be safe at home on furlough x | |||
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"It's impossible to do my job with 2 metres distance and/or PPE so i just get on with it. I was my hands a lot but that's not going to minimise the danger really. " *wash | |||
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"It's the employers responsibility to provide the employee with all appropriate ppe where required. It is also the employers responsibility to carry out risk assessments and implement all necessary to keep the employee safe at all times. It is also the employees responsibility to report any issues/risks to the employer, the employer must act on the employees concerns and carry out said risk assessment. The packhouses I have been attending for work throughout this crisis have managed to comply and carry out all necessary measures and precautions including, one way systems, distancing floor stickers, h&s signage, reduced workers on the lines to ensure adequate spacing etc... It is possible and it is everyones responsibility not just the employers... Stay safe everyone and don't be afraid to challenge our employer and raise all health and safety comcerns, it is them who are breaking the laws not you..." It's not possible to keep 2 metres apart and/or wear PPE in my job. I am high risk too because of my health too but hey ho ! | |||
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"It's the employers responsibility to provide the employee with all appropriate ppe where required. It is also the employers responsibility to carry out risk assessments and implement all necessary to keep the employee safe at all times. It is also the employees responsibility to report any issues/risks to the employer, the employer must act on the employees concerns and carry out said risk assessment. The packhouses I have been attending for work throughout this crisis have managed to comply and carry out all necessary measures and precautions including, one way systems, distancing floor stickers, h&s signage, reduced workers on the lines to ensure adequate spacing etc... It is possible and it is everyones responsibility not just the employers... Stay safe everyone and don't be afraid to challenge our employer and raise all health and safety comcerns, it is them who are breaking the laws not you..." The Health and Safety at Work Act (1974) Section 1.6.1 Employers' Responsibilities And Section 1.6.2 Employees duties. Will both come into play for a safe working environment. | |||
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"It's the employers responsibility to provide the employee with all appropriate ppe where required. It is also the employers responsibility to carry out risk assessments and implement all necessary to keep the employee safe at all times. It is also the employees responsibility to report any issues/risks to the employer, the employer must act on the employees concerns and carry out said risk assessment. The packhouses I have been attending for work throughout this crisis have managed to comply and carry out all necessary measures and precautions including, one way systems, distancing floor stickers, h&s signage, reduced workers on the lines to ensure adequate spacing etc... It is possible and it is everyones responsibility not just the employers... Stay safe everyone and don't be afraid to challenge our employer and raise all health and safety comcerns, it is them who are breaking the laws not you... The Health and Safety at Work Act (1974) Section 1.6.1 Employers' Responsibilities And Section 1.6.2 Employees duties. Will both come into play for a safe working environment." Exactly, haven't got the shit in front of me to hand, just walked out of work... A lot of people seem to be blaming the government, but it is down to the employer.... | |||
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"The country can’t all stay home forever, so we will need to adapt. " This. There's no waiting for the virus to go away . It's here for years. We need to get working again the best we can because mass unemployment will cause greater misery and deaths. | |||
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"It's the employers responsibility to provide the employee with all appropriate ppe where required. It is also the employers responsibility to carry out risk assessments and implement all necessary to keep the employee safe at all times. It is also the employees responsibility to report any issues/risks to the employer, the employer must act on the employees concerns and carry out said risk assessment. The packhouses I have been attending for work throughout this crisis have managed to comply and carry out all necessary measures and precautions including, one way systems, distancing floor stickers, h&s signage, reduced workers on the lines to ensure adequate spacing etc... It is possible and it is everyones responsibility not just the employers... Stay safe everyone and don't be afraid to challenge our employer and raise all health and safety comcerns, it is them who are breaking the laws not you... The Health and Safety at Work Act (1974) Section 1.6.1 Employers' Responsibilities And Section 1.6.2 Employees duties. Will both come into play for a safe working environment." Also the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) | |||
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"There were 3,877 new COVID-19 cases in the UK today with 210 deaths. Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? Two completely different scenarios. " It's a money thing. | |||
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"There were 3,877 new COVID-19 cases in the UK today with 210 deaths. Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? Two completely different scenarios. It's a money thing." It is a money thing. But we can't go by the amount of new cases as we haven't tested people consistently and for long enough to compare data. There will be more confirmed cases because we are testing more.... | |||
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"There were 3,877 new COVID-19 cases in the UK today with 210 deaths. Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? Two completely different scenarios. " Reported today.. When in fact tested probably two weeks ago, with 5 days "holiday" in-between, sat and sun x 2 and a bank Holiday last Friday.. It takes that long for data to filter through from pen pushers. Hence why four weeks after the event it has been stated "the peak" was on 9th April.. If you want to return to normality do so, if you don't, don't.. Why won't people make a decision for themselves based on their own circumstances? It's an air borne virus impossible to not be exposed to it unless you remain in a air tight box... Back to normality please, the NHS has been saved lol | |||
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"How do people feel about going back to work even though carnt keep safe distance there " Have not stopped | |||
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"It's the employers responsibility to provide the employee with all appropriate ppe where required. It is also the employers responsibility to carry out risk assessments and implement all necessary to keep the employee safe at all times. It is also the employees responsibility to report any issues/risks to the employer, the employer must act on the employees concerns and carry out said risk assessment. The packhouses I have been attending for work throughout this crisis have managed to comply and carry out all necessary measures and precautions including, one way systems, distancing floor stickers, h&s signage, reduced workers on the lines to ensure adequate spacing etc... It is possible and it is everyones responsibility not just the employers... Stay safe everyone and don't be afraid to challenge our employer and raise all health and safety comcerns, it is them who are breaking the laws not you... It's not possible to keep 2 metres apart and/or wear PPE in my job. I am high risk too because of my health too but hey ho !" Stay home then simple. | |||
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"It's the employers responsibility to provide the employee with all appropriate ppe where required. It is also the employers responsibility to carry out risk assessments and implement all necessary to keep the employee safe at all times. It is also the employees responsibility to report any issues/risks to the employer, the employer must act on the employees concerns and carry out said risk assessment. The packhouses I have been attending for work throughout this crisis have managed to comply and carry out all necessary measures and precautions including, one way systems, distancing floor stickers, h&s signage, reduced workers on the lines to ensure adequate spacing etc... It is possible and it is everyones responsibility not just the employers... Stay safe everyone and don't be afraid to challenge our employer and raise all health and safety comcerns, it is them who are breaking the laws not you... It's not possible to keep 2 metres apart and/or wear PPE in my job. I am high risk too because of my health too but hey ho !Stay home then simple. " Exactly... | |||
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"There were 3,877 new COVID-19 cases in the UK today with 210 deaths. Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? Two completely different scenarios. Reported today.. When in fact tested probably two weeks ago, with 5 days "holiday" in-between, sat and sun x 2 and a bank Holiday last Friday.. It takes that long for data to filter through from pen pushers. Hence why four weeks after the event it has been stated "the peak" was on 9th April.. If you want to return to normality do so, if you don't, don't.. Why won't people make a decision for themselves based on their own circumstances? It's an air borne virus impossible to not be exposed to it unless you remain in a air tight box... Back to normality please, the NHS has been saved lol " I personally work from home. I wouldn't be going in to work anyway. I do however have a month long holiday in PDI booked and paid for in October. I would very much like the UK not to be the "Pariah Island" no one will accept visitors from because we are high risk. Lockdown was bad, but doing it all for nothing and having to do it again will be worse. | |||
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"There were 3,877 new COVID-19 cases in the UK today with 210 deaths. Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? Two completely different scenarios. Reported today.. When in fact tested probably two weeks ago, with 5 days "holiday" in-between, sat and sun x 2 and a bank Holiday last Friday.. It takes that long for data to filter through from pen pushers. Hence why four weeks after the event it has been stated "the peak" was on 9th April.. If you want to return to normality do so, if you don't, don't.. Why won't people make a decision for themselves based on their own circumstances? It's an air borne virus impossible to not be exposed to it unless you remain in a air tight box... Back to normality please, the NHS has been saved lol I personally work from home. I wouldn't be going in to work anyway. I do however have a month long holiday in PDI booked and paid for in October. I would very much like the UK not to be the "Pariah Island" no one will accept visitors from because we are high risk. Lockdown was bad, but doing it all for nothing and having to do it again will be worse." We have booked for December. Do you think foreign tourist be allowed by October? | |||
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"It's the employers responsibility to provide the employee with all appropriate ppe where required. It is also the employers responsibility to carry out risk assessments and implement all necessary to keep the employee safe at all times. It is also the employees responsibility to report any issues/risks to the employer, the employer must act on the employees concerns and carry out said risk assessment. The packhouses I have been attending for work throughout this crisis have managed to comply and carry out all necessary measures and precautions including, one way systems, distancing floor stickers, h&s signage, reduced workers on the lines to ensure adequate spacing etc... It is possible and it is everyones responsibility not just the employers... Stay safe everyone and don't be afraid to challenge our employer and raise all health and safety comcerns, it is them who are breaking the laws not you... It's not possible to keep 2 metres apart and/or wear PPE in my job. I am high risk too because of my health too but hey ho !Stay home then simple. " The job has to be done, someone has to do it. If me and my fellow workmates (key workers doing an essential job) didn't do then other key workers couldn't work. | |||
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"There were 3,877 new COVID-19 cases in the UK today with 210 deaths. Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? Two completely different scenarios. Reported today.. When in fact tested probably two weeks ago, with 5 days "holiday" in-between, sat and sun x 2 and a bank Holiday last Friday.. It takes that long for data to filter through from pen pushers. Hence why four weeks after the event it has been stated "the peak" was on 9th April.. If you want to return to normality do so, if you don't, don't.. Why won't people make a decision for themselves based on their own circumstances? It's an air borne virus impossible to not be exposed to it unless you remain in a air tight box... Back to normality please, the NHS has been saved lol I personally work from home. I wouldn't be going in to work anyway. I do however have a month long holiday in PDI booked and paid for in October. I would very much like the UK not to be the "Pariah Island" no one will accept visitors from because we are high risk. Lockdown was bad, but doing it all for nothing and having to do it again will be worse. We have booked for December. Do you think foreign tourist be allowed by October?" I'm hoping that by October we have Airport systems in place that check whether you're infected or not before you travel. Hopefully they will have antibody tests by then too. | |||
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"There were 3,877 new COVID-19 cases in the UK today with 210 deaths. Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? Two completely different scenarios. Reported today.. When in fact tested probably two weeks ago, with 5 days "holiday" in-between, sat and sun x 2 and a bank Holiday last Friday.. It takes that long for data to filter through from pen pushers. Hence why four weeks after the event it has been stated "the peak" was on 9th April.. If you want to return to normality do so, if you don't, don't.. Why won't people make a decision for themselves based on their own circumstances? It's an air borne virus impossible to not be exposed to it unless you remain in a air tight box... Back to normality please, the NHS has been saved lol I personally work from home. I wouldn't be going in to work anyway. I do however have a month long holiday in PDI booked and paid for in October. I would very much like the UK not to be the "Pariah Island" no one will accept visitors from because we are high risk. Lockdown was bad, but doing it all for nothing and having to do it again will be worse. We have booked for December. Do you think foreign tourist be allowed by October? I'm hoping that by October we have Airport systems in place that check whether you're infected or not before you travel. Hopefully they will have antibody tests by then too." Hopefully because we have both already had the virus. | |||
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"There were 3,877 new COVID-19 cases in the UK today with 210 deaths. Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? Two completely different scenarios. Reported today.. When in fact tested probably two weeks ago, with 5 days "holiday" in-between, sat and sun x 2 and a bank Holiday last Friday.. It takes that long for data to filter through from pen pushers. Hence why four weeks after the event it has been stated "the peak" was on 9th April.. If you want to return to normality do so, if you don't, don't.. Why won't people make a decision for themselves based on their own circumstances? It's an air borne virus impossible to not be exposed to it unless you remain in a air tight box... Back to normality please, the NHS has been saved lol I personally work from home. I wouldn't be going in to work anyway. I do however have a month long holiday in PDI booked and paid for in October. I would very much like the UK not to be the "Pariah Island" no one will accept visitors from because we are high risk. Lockdown was bad, but doing it all for nothing and having to do it again will be worse. We have booked for December. Do you think foreign tourist be allowed by October? I'm hoping that by October we have Airport systems in place that check whether you're infected or not before you travel. Hopefully they will have antibody tests by then too. Hopefully because we have both already had the virus." Won't it be ironic if only the previously infected are allowed to travel? | |||
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"There were 3,877 new COVID-19 cases in the UK today with 210 deaths. Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? Two completely different scenarios. Reported today.. When in fact tested probably two weeks ago, with 5 days "holiday" in-between, sat and sun x 2 and a bank Holiday last Friday.. It takes that long for data to filter through from pen pushers. Hence why four weeks after the event it has been stated "the peak" was on 9th April.. If you want to return to normality do so, if you don't, don't.. Why won't people make a decision for themselves based on their own circumstances? It's an air borne virus impossible to not be exposed to it unless you remain in a air tight box... Back to normality please, the NHS has been saved lol I personally work from home. I wouldn't be going in to work anyway. I do however have a month long holiday in PDI booked and paid for in October. I would very much like the UK not to be the "Pariah Island" no one will accept visitors from because we are high risk. Lockdown was bad, but doing it all for nothing and having to do it again will be worse. We have booked for December. Do you think foreign tourist be allowed by October? I'm hoping that by October we have Airport systems in place that check whether you're infected or not before you travel. Hopefully they will have antibody tests by then too. Hopefully because we have both already had the virus. Won't it be ironic if only the previously infected are allowed to travel?" | |||
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"There were 3,877 new COVID-19 cases in the UK today with 210 deaths. Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? Two completely different scenarios. Reported today.. When in fact tested probably two weeks ago, with 5 days "holiday" in-between, sat and sun x 2 and a bank Holiday last Friday.. It takes that long for data to filter through from pen pushers. Hence why four weeks after the event it has been stated "the peak" was on 9th April.. If you want to return to normality do so, if you don't, don't.. Why won't people make a decision for themselves based on their own circumstances? It's an air borne virus impossible to not be exposed to it unless you remain in a air tight box... Back to normality please, the NHS has been saved lol I personally work from home. I wouldn't be going in to work anyway. I do however have a month long holiday in PDI booked and paid for in October. I would very much like the UK not to be the "Pariah Island" no one will accept visitors from because we are high risk. Lockdown was bad, but doing it all for nothing and having to do it again will be worse. We have booked for December. Do you think foreign tourist be allowed by October? I'm hoping that by October we have Airport systems in place that check whether you're infected or not before you travel. Hopefully they will have antibody tests by then too. Hopefully because we have both already had the virus." So you both tested positive? | |||
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" totally agree, i've worked throughout, can't maintain 2m all the time, no ppe provided, well unless you count one small bottle of hand sanitiser as i can't wash my hands for hours on end. i would love to be safe at home on furlough x" A phone call to Environmental Health (local council) and email to Health & Safety Executive will sort this out fast. | |||
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" Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? " Because the tabloids and their publishers decided they'd had enough of it. That's who makes decisions for this government. | |||
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"There were 3,877 new COVID-19 cases in the UK today with 210 deaths. Are we coming out of lockdown because it's safer or because we just can't afford it any longer? Two completely different scenarios. Reported today.. When in fact tested probably two weeks ago, with 5 days "holiday" in-between, sat and sun x 2 and a bank Holiday last Friday.. It takes that long for data to filter through from pen pushers. Hence why four weeks after the event it has been stated "the peak" was on 9th April.. If you want to return to normality do so, if you don't, don't.. Why won't people make a decision for themselves based on their own circumstances? It's an air borne virus impossible to not be exposed to it unless you remain in a air tight box... Back to normality please, the NHS has been saved lol I personally work from home. I wouldn't be going in to work anyway. I do however have a month long holiday in PDI booked and paid for in October. I would very much like the UK not to be the "Pariah Island" no one will accept visitors from because we are high risk. Lockdown was bad, but doing it all for nothing and having to do it again will be worse. We have booked for December. Do you think foreign tourist be allowed by October? I'm hoping that by October we have Airport systems in place that check whether you're infected or not before you travel. Hopefully they will have antibody tests by then too. Hopefully because we have both already had the virus. So you both tested positive?" Yes but the mrs had no symptoms and the mr had all the symptoms except the cough and was ill for two and a half weeks. We both got tested with the mrs being a key worker. | |||
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"Can anyone help me with something I am struggling to understand. There has been several reports of Medical Teams in countries across the World including our own actively trying to find a Vaccine including using Humans in the trials. Some reports suggest that the outcomes of the trials might be available by mid June, with some encouraging results so far. Today I read that Boris is hinting at the possibility of not finding a Vaccine at all and the situation being a long term one. Doesn't bear thinking about. What does everyone else think." There are people working on it all across the world, but that doesn't guarantee when a vaccine will created, if it will be successful, that it would be safe enough for human use, that the virus wont mutate making it redundant, if it manages to pass all those tests how long it will take to manufacture and administer on scale to get it to everyone Both the fact that lots of people are trying really hard to get a vaccine and that we still might never have one are true | |||
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"Can anyone help me with something I am struggling to understand. There has been several reports of Medical Teams in countries across the World including our own actively trying to find a Vaccine including using Humans in the trials. Some reports suggest that the outcomes of the trials might be available by mid June, with some encouraging results so far. Today I read that Boris is hinting at the possibility of not finding a Vaccine at all and the situation being a long term one. Doesn't bear thinking about. What does everyone else think." You're right that there are lots of vaccine development teams around the world,I think at least over 40. Oxford's is fairly advanced.At least 1 would need to work and be safe - plus affordable.Johnson won't know if they all will or won't kill the virus and be safe. He may have foreword on the Oxford trial. The vaccine dose will need to be worked out, eg 1 or multiple injection and of what dose? How long do people stay immune for? Obviously making millions of doses will take time. In the meantime, it's best for us all to stay distanced and to behave respectfully and responsibly.With some good fortune, vaccine development and trials will produce a good outcome. | |||
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"Can anyone help me with something I am struggling to understand. There has been several reports of Medical Teams in countries across the World including our own actively trying to find a Vaccine including using Humans in the trials. Some reports suggest that the outcomes of the trials might be available by mid June, with some encouraging results so far. Today I read that Boris is hinting at the possibility of not finding a Vaccine at all and the situation being a long term one. Doesn't bear thinking about. What does everyone else think." i think people need to realise there is a good chance they may not find a vaccine not saying they wont find one but i not holding my breath for one.there are other viruses that have been around for years that they aint anywhere near curing.really do think we need to stop pinning our hopes on a magic bullet and start to prepare ourselves that its something we may be living with for years | |||
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"How do people feel about going back to work even though carnt keep safe distance there Been working all through, and impossible to stay 2m apart" At my workplace it's the same. | |||
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"Been working non stop , including bank holidays and most weekends , no two metres distance, we get no special treatment , still have to stand outside supermarkets, get no discounts or claps or free food , but we have a job and money , people at home need to stop moaning and get back to work , life has to go on , this country don’t have the money to keep paying your wages , we will all end up paying more taxes for years and years to pay for this " Mrs has has been doing 6 12 hour shifts per week. I am at home on furlough and until my work says come to work I will stay on furlough. I never asked to be furloughed. Everybodys reality is different. Yes I am moaning wishing I could get back to work. | |||
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"Been working non stop , including bank holidays and most weekends , no two metres distance, we get no special treatment , still have to stand outside supermarkets, get no discounts or claps or free food , but we have a job and money , people at home need to stop moaning and get back to work , life has to go on , this country don’t have the money to keep paying your wages , we will all end up paying more taxes for years and years to pay for this Mrs has has been doing 6 12 hour shifts per week. I am at home on furlough and until my work says come to work I will stay on furlough. I never asked to be furloughed. Everybodys reality is different. Yes I am moaning wishing I could get back to work. " Firms are hardly paying staff to sit at home becuase they are enjoying the sunshine and can't be arsed to come in buddy. | |||
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"Been working non stop , including bank holidays and most weekends , no two metres distance, we get no special treatment , still have to stand outside supermarkets, get no discounts or claps or free food , but we have a job and money , people at home need to stop moaning and get back to work , life has to go on , this country don’t have the money to keep paying your wages , we will all end up paying more taxes for years and years to pay for this " Stood outside a supermarket? I assume you're security then. I'm hospitality. I applied for other work but didn't get anything. I'm not choosing to be at home on less than 80% (it's not tax free). "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the 20th century.” Aneurin Bevan In 2020 you make the plebs argue amongst themselves until they make each other do what you want and not what they want. | |||
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"Been working non stop , including bank holidays and most weekends , no two metres distance, we get no special treatment , still have to stand outside supermarkets, get no discounts or claps or free food , but we have a job and money , people at home need to stop moaning and get back to work , life has to go on , this country don’t have the money to keep paying your wages , we will all end up paying more taxes for years and years to pay for this Stood outside a supermarket? I assume you're security then. I'm hospitality. I applied for other work but didn't get anything. I'm not choosing to be at home on less than 80% (it's not tax free). "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the 20th century.” Aneurin Bevan In 2020 you make the plebs argue amongst themselves until they make each other do what you want and not what they want. " In our reality the mrs has had to pick up the slack for now. She doesn't whinge because she knows I make the sacrifice of working away from home on weekdays all year round. | |||
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" "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the 20th century.” Aneurin Bevan In 2020 you make the plebs argue amongst themselves until they make each other do what you want and not what they want. In our reality the mrs has had to pick up the slack for now. She doesn't whinge because she knows I make the sacrifice of working away from home on weekdays all year round. " But plenty of others are whinging. Furlough is not a choice. When our bosses call us back we either return to work or accept unemployment, but from the media this morning you'd never know that. It was all about demonising teachers who don't feel safe and spreading fear about people who are furloughed getting cosy. They are trying to turn the people who are working against those of us who don't have a choice. | |||
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"How do people feel about going back to work even though carnt keep safe distance there " Retired at 50 | |||
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"How do people feel about going back to work even though carnt keep safe distance there Retired at 50 " When my company calls I will have to return. I cant afford to not be working . | |||
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