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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection " Delta 32 mutation means he's one of the few who have some immunity to HIV the virus cannot enter the cells for replication. I suggest if he's going to be a regular playmate is both get tests at least 2 sets 6 weeks apart full screens bloods swabs If he's a one off then really do you want chance that? A regular won't mind using condoms till you BOTH know you're std free | |||
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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection Delta 32 mutation means he's one of the few who have some immunity to HIV the virus cannot enter the cells for replication. I suggest if he's going to be a regular playmate is both get tests at least 2 sets 6 weeks apart full screens bloods swabs If he's a one off then really do you want chance that? A regular won't mind using condoms till you BOTH know you're std free" Seconded. Also a quick Google search has yeided the delta mutation. Playing advocate could he just be saying that so you’ll go bare? Defo get tested regularly before going unprotected. Good luck op. Xxx | |||
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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection Delta 32 mutation means he's one of the few who have some immunity to HIV the virus cannot enter the cells for replication. I suggest if he's going to be a regular playmate is both get tests at least 2 sets 6 weeks apart full screens bloods swabs If he's a one off then really do you want chance that? A regular won't mind using condoms till you BOTH know you're std free Seconded. Also a quick Google search has yeided the delta mutation. Playing advocate could he just be saying that so you’ll go bare? Defo get tested regularly before going unprotected. Good luck op. Xxx" Thank you I do want to try it but still think I too scared to | |||
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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection Delta 32 mutation means he's one of the few who have some immunity to HIV the virus cannot enter the cells for replication. I suggest if he's going to be a regular playmate is both get tests at least 2 sets 6 weeks apart full screens bloods swabs If he's a one off then really do you want chance that? A regular won't mind using condoms till you BOTH know you're std free Seconded. Also a quick Google search has yeided the delta mutation. Playing advocate could he just be saying that so you’ll go bare? Defo get tested regularly before going unprotected. Good luck op. Xxx Thank you I do want to try it but still think I too scared to " Fear is a good thing makes you consider the right path for you. If he's going to be a regular build up trust when you do trust him you'll not feel scared. Build trust by proving to each other you look after your sexual health. But also consider he barebacks others so calculate the risk you want to take unless he can be trusted to be an exclusive bare partner and you both use condoms with others continuing regular testing | |||
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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection " Never be pressured to meet anyone, and especially bare back. | |||
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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection Delta 32 mutation means he's one of the few who have some immunity to HIV the virus cannot enter the cells for replication. I suggest if he's going to be a regular playmate is both get tests at least 2 sets 6 weeks apart full screens bloods swabs If he's a one off then really do you want chance that? A regular won't mind using condoms till you BOTH know you're std free Seconded. Also a quick Google search has yeided the delta mutation. Playing advocate could he just be saying that so you’ll go bare? Defo get tested regularly before going unprotected. Good luck op. Xxx Thank you I do want to try it but still think I too scared to Fear is a good thing makes you consider the right path for you. If he's going to be a regular build up trust when you do trust him you'll not feel scared. Build trust by proving to each other you look after your sexual health. But also consider he barebacks others so calculate the risk you want to take unless he can be trusted to be an exclusive bare partner and you both use condoms with others continuing regular testing" He has told me he has bare back with all his ex bf and wouldn’t use a condom if I like him when we meet Iv never had a regular with a man but I think I want to now Im wanting bare back but very scared He seems very genuine | |||
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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection Delta 32 mutation means he's one of the few who have some immunity to HIV the virus cannot enter the cells for replication. I suggest if he's going to be a regular playmate is both get tests at least 2 sets 6 weeks apart full screens bloods swabs If he's a one off then really do you want chance that? A regular won't mind using condoms till you BOTH know you're std free Seconded. Also a quick Google search has yeided the delta mutation. Playing advocate could he just be saying that so you’ll go bare? Defo get tested regularly before going unprotected. Good luck op. Xxx Thank you I do want to try it but still think I too scared to Fear is a good thing makes you consider the right path for you. If he's going to be a regular build up trust when you do trust him you'll not feel scared. Build trust by proving to each other you look after your sexual health. But also consider he barebacks others so calculate the risk you want to take unless he can be trusted to be an exclusive bare partner and you both use condoms with others continuing regular testing He has told me he has bare back with all his ex bf and wouldn’t use a condom if I like him when we meet Iv never had a regular with a man but I think I want to now Im wanting bare back but very scared He seems very genuine " The decision is up to you it's your body, as another has said don't be pressured into it, liking someone doesn't mean you have to trust them. It's manipulation if he says "if you like me we should go bare" everyone knows bare feels better but it's your health on the line so it's your decision and you shouldn't be coerced. | |||
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"What about other STIs? Just because he says he can't catch or transmit HIV what about hepatitis or herpes or gonorrhea? This sounds really dodgy to me and maybe you need to speak to a sexual health expert before you ask a bunch of random people like us! My advice? Try your local clinic and in the meantime, put him on hold. Mrs K x" Sensible advice, health before a brief encounter | |||
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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection " What about other STDs? | |||
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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection " Anyone can claim anything and be bullshitting, especially those that push for bareback. You are taking a chance, he probably takes bareback loads all the time. He could have other diseases waiting to greet you including Hepatitis C which you cannot be immunised against like you can A & B. | |||
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"Him saying he is and him actually being are 2 very different things and as others have mentioned, there is plenty of other STDs you can catch from barebacking. I would never considering it unless it was someone I knew, trusted and they had proof that they was very recently tested and clear" The responses on this thread have been excellent and Lilly sums things up really well. CCR5-delta32 appears to confer immunity to HIV-1 in a proportion of the Caucasian population. It's worthwhile noting the conclusions of a meta-analysis of research on this subject that was published in 2018. Meta-analysis is a statistical tool that integrates and compares the results of multiple related research studies taking into consideration variations in characteristics that can affect overall estimate of the outcome of interest, which is used to evaluate the published literature in terms of validity and quality. The meta-analysis found several limitations in the data published: Most of the studies had been English or Chinese; this may have resulted in bias in suggesting that there was a protection factor afforded by the Caucasian ethnicity. The number and the sample size of some included studies was limited and the results should, therefore, be interpreted with caution. The influences of other relevant components such as age, gender, life style and the interactions of these with CCR5-delta32 polymorphism on HIV-1 infection susceptibility were not analyzed due to the lack of original data. The study suggested that CCR5-delta32 might confer a possible protection against HIV-1 infection especially in an exposed but uninfected population bu this conclusion should be confirmed by multi-center and large-scale studies based on multiple ethnic groups. So, in my opinion, considerations for safe sex remain (HIV and others STIs) and, in this particular case (due to my occupation and knowing that individuals will lie and manipulate in an attempt to beat the system to get what they 'want'), maybe evidence of having this actual gene polymorphism. | |||
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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection Delta 32 mutation means he's one of the few who have some immunity to HIV the virus cannot enter the cells for replication. I suggest if he's going to be a regular playmate is both get tests at least 2 sets 6 weeks apart full screens bloods swabs If he's a one off then really do you want chance that? A regular won't mind using condoms till you BOTH know you're std free Seconded. Also a quick Google search has yeided the delta mutation. Playing advocate could he just be saying that so you’ll go bare? Defo get tested regularly before going unprotected. Good luck op. Xxx Thank you I do want to try it but still think I too scared to " Trust your gut and play safely. | |||
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"After reading countless posts on the forums about why don’t straight couples want to play with bi guys and I hope I don’t offend you but surely this is why? I can’t believe in this day with all the information someone would believe some guy who who said some rubbish about it’s ok to bareback him be because he has some Genetic mutation that stops him from catching and passing on HIV. Please think is it worth the risk????" That's a bit of a leap. I can't recall ever seeing a thread before about male/male bareback yet there's plenty of threads about male /female bareback. On the evidence of these forums, it's the hetero couples who are the greater risk. | |||
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"Oh and re the OPs query. Men, gay, straight or bi will generally say any old bollocks in order to get their jollies. I wouldn't believe a word of it. " This in a nutshell | |||
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"After reading countless posts on the forums about why don’t straight couples want to play with bi guys and I hope I don’t offend you but surely this is why? I can’t believe in this day with all the information someone would believe some guy who who said some rubbish about it’s ok to bareback him be because he has some Genetic mutation that stops him from catching and passing on HIV. Please think is it worth the risk???? That's a bit of a leap. I can't recall ever seeing a thread before about male/male bareback yet there's plenty of threads about male /female bareback. On the evidence of these forums, it's the hetero couples who are the greater risk. " I agree with you and the last thing I wanted to do is offend anyone. We would never play bareback with anyone whether they was straight bi or gay as it’s just not worth the risk for us but everyone has their preferences so it’s up to them But what the OP was saying sounds like a very high risk thing to do and that he was even considering it is very alarming to be honest. | |||
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"I really do want to meet him but I’m not going to go bare just yet as much as I do want to I have to be sure I can trust him Thanks all x " If you want my advice, trust no one | |||
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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection " Condom if you don't know the person. Have fun. | |||
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"I really do want to meet him but I’m not going to go bare just yet as much as I do want to I have to be sure I can trust him Thanks all x " I’m sorry but I can’t work out if you’re naive or just stupid | |||
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"I really do want to meet him but I’m not going to go bare just yet as much as I do want to I have to be sure I can trust him Thanks all x I’m sorry but I can’t work out if you’re naive or just stupid " Why because I might have bareback ? | |||
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"I really do want to meet him but I’m not going to go bare just yet as much as I do want to I have to be sure I can trust him Thanks all x If you want my advice, trust no one " | |||
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"I really do want to meet him but I’m not going to go bare just yet as much as I do want to I have to be sure I can trust him Thanks all x I’m sorry but I can’t work out if you’re naive or just stupid Why because I might have bareback ?" yes sorry to say | |||
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"When you have in your own profile the sentence 'I do prefere bare back of you are ok with it' then its little surprise people who want to meet you will expect this. " Seems he made his decision and updated profile or already made a choice but wanted to test the waters with others opinions. | |||
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"I’m chatting to a gay guy and have arranged to meet possibly regular He is telling me he is clean and has delta 32 mutation What is this ? I really wanna meet him but scared to go bare until Iv been seeing him a while I am bi and only been with a few men This would be the first time regular He wanted to meet tonight but I was too scared without protection " Had it crossed your mind that he could be lying? Delta 32 does not protect against STDs. He sounds like a knob, tell him to do one. | |||
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"My profile says I prefere bare back but that’s aimed at women I am very careful who I meet and even more careful when I meet men Hope this clears it up Iv not met the guy yet and I very much doubt I’d risk it no matter what he said I’d have to really know the person before doing that Thanks for all the reply’s x" How do you know where the women have been you bareback with? They could be dogging cum dumps or prostitutes for all you know. | |||
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"What about other STIs? Just because he says he can't catch or transmit HIV what about hepatitis or herpes or gonorrhea? This sounds really dodgy to me and maybe you need to speak to a sexual health expert before you ask a bunch of random people like us! My advice? Try your local clinic and in the meantime, put him on hold. Mrs K x" You forgot HPV. You can get HPV by having vaginal, anal, or oral sex with someone who has the virus. ... Anyone who is sexually active can get HPV, even if you have had sex with only one person. You also can develop symptoms years after you have sex with someone who is infected. | |||
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"What about other STIs? Just because he says he can't catch or transmit HIV what about hepatitis or herpes or gonorrhea? This sounds really dodgy to me and maybe you need to speak to a sexual health expert before you ask a bunch of random people like us! My advice? Try your local clinic and in the meantime, put him on hold. Mrs K x You forgot HPV. You can get HPV by having vaginal, anal, or oral sex with someone who has the virus. ... Anyone who is sexually active can get HPV, even if you have had sex with only one person. You also can develop symptoms years after you have sex with someone who is infected." There is an HPV vaccination too guys and girls, go get it | |||
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"What about other STIs? Just because he says he can't catch or transmit HIV what about hepatitis or herpes or gonorrhea? This sounds really dodgy to me and maybe you need to speak to a sexual health expert before you ask a bunch of random people like us! My advice? Try your local clinic and in the meantime, put him on hold. Mrs K x You forgot HPV. You can get HPV by having vaginal, anal, or oral sex with someone who has the virus. ... Anyone who is sexually active can get HPV, even if you have had sex with only one person. You also can develop symptoms years after you have sex with someone who is infected. There is an HPV vaccination too guys and girls, go get it " Indeed, but it doesn’t cover all the high risk strains that may cause cancer and women are still advised to continue to have smears. Also, heterosexual men and women after the age of 25 will have to go privately to get it and it’s very expensive, even though the FDA in the US advises it up to the age of 45. J | |||
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"What about other STIs? Just because he says he can't catch or transmit HIV what about hepatitis or herpes or gonorrhea? This sounds really dodgy to me and maybe you need to speak to a sexual health expert before you ask a bunch of random people like us! My advice? Try your local clinic and in the meantime, put him on hold. Mrs K x" Absolutely right | |||
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"Im getting my second HPV (of 3) shot this morning. " Was offered the chance to get on prep, but im not sure. Probably a waste of money on me. | |||
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"OP,dont trust him and use condoms,just saying better to be safe than very very sorry. You know it makes sense " Iv told him I want it safe for now I do always suck bare tho | |||
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"OP,dont trust him and use condoms,just saying better to be safe than very very sorry. You know it makes sense Iv told him I want it safe for now I do always suck bare tho " Safe allways ,people say one thing and mean another and in a few weeks after he's had his end away he will be dropping you for someone else | |||
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