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"homophobic dinosaurs" The press/ government has pretty much turned a blind eye to it, in fear of being deem racist. | |||
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"homophobic dinosaurs" Pretty much this, all they're doing is teaching kids that sometimes they may come across parents that are two dads or two mums, not always a dad and a mum and that its normal. From peoples reaction you would think they were showing them hardcore gay pornography | |||
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"homophobic dinosaurs The press/ government has pretty much turned a blind eye to it, in fear of being deem racist." The BBC reported on it this morning. I wonder what that odious twat Owen Jones has to say about this, he likes to think he speaks for those of us who are LBGT yet defends to the hilt those that follow a religion that is totally incompatible with homosexuality. | |||
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"homophobic dinosaurs Pretty much this, all they're doing is teaching kids that sometimes they may come across parents that are two dads or two mums, not always a dad and a mum and that its normal. From peoples reaction you would think they were showing them hardcore gay pornography" phy[/quoted Lol yes definitely, one of the books talks about how miss penguin and another female penguin have a relationship. Its hard core not, but on a serious note teachers at the schools are being verbally and even physically abused. | |||
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"When our kids were at school you could choose to remove your children from sex education and religious ed lessons. Why don't they just do that? I don't like the idea of the state insisting that everyone is taught the same values. This doesn't mean that I'm against lgbt inclusion and acceptance it means I'm anti state interference in how we bring our children up." can you imagine a country of conflicting values and the harmony it brings? Hang on a minute isn't that multiculturalism | |||
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"When our kids were at school you could choose to remove your children from sex education and religious ed lessons. Why don't they just do that? I don't like the idea of the state insisting that everyone is taught the same values. This doesn't mean that I'm against lgbt inclusion and acceptance it means I'm anti state interference in how we bring our children up.can you imagine a country of conflicting values and the harmony it brings? Hang on a minute isn't that multiculturalism " No, it's human beings living together in the same space. | |||
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"When our kids were at school you could choose to remove your children from sex education and religious ed lessons. Why don't they just do that? I don't like the idea of the state insisting that everyone is taught the same values. This doesn't mean that I'm against lgbt inclusion and acceptance it means I'm anti state interference in how we bring our children up.can you imagine a country of conflicting values and the harmony it brings? Hang on a minute isn't that multiculturalism No, it's human beings living together in the same space. " Well that's the point the protesters are not. A school should be a place of calm and learning. You shouldn't have to take your kids to school through a baying mob. | |||
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"When our kids were at school you could choose to remove your children from sex education and religious ed lessons. Why don't they just do that? I don't like the idea of the state insisting that everyone is taught the same values. This doesn't mean that I'm against lgbt inclusion and acceptance it means I'm anti state interference in how we bring our children up.can you imagine a country of conflicting values and the harmony it brings? Hang on a minute isn't that multiculturalism No, it's human beings living together in the same space. Well that's the point the protesters are not. A school should be a place of calm and learning. You shouldn't have to take your kids to school through a baying mob." No, you shouldn't. I don't agree with the way the protesters are behaving. | |||
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"It's a difficult situation that society has backed itself into by trying to please everyone. If someone's religion leads them to believe homosexuality is wrong then that's their belief and they are entitled to that. To tell them otherwise would be discriminatory or bigotry. To tell them otherwise would be discriminatory or bigotry. So are the predators not bigot then ? Unfortunately to stop them protesting would put the authorities in the wrong as it is religious discrimination. Ignore it and they are homophobic. The nanny state has sucked up to every imaginable minority and when the minorities cannot agree, everyone else is in the wrong. " | |||
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"It's a difficult situation that society has backed itself into by trying to please everyone. If someone's religion leads them to believe homosexuality is wrong then that's their belief and they are entitled to that. To tell them otherwise would be discriminatory or bigotry. To tell them otherwise would be discriminatory or bigotry. Unfortunately to stop them protesting would put the authorities in the wrong as it is religious discrimination. Ignore it and they are homophobic. The nanny state has sucked up to every imaginable minority and when the minorities cannot agree, everyone else is in the wrong. " So are the protesters not bigot then, failing to see the way the majority what to live. It cuts both way. | |||
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"What people's thoughts on the protests outside Birmingham schools, by protesters described as a mop by the BBC. Not whating the children taught LGBT lesson as the protestors see homosexuality as wrong ?" I live in Rochdale.. I think it's an amusing problem for liberals and meet wing people to ponder. I just sit back on the sofa/eat my popcorn and laugh my tits off at what's happening. I am glad about all of this. Liberals and left wing people created 2 problems. Liberals: "we love you welcome to britain" Muslims "you are an infidel being gay is wrong" | |||
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"So if little Jonny is being dropped off at school hy his two dads no doubt they would have something to say about that. Homophobic idiots!!!Nothing wrong in teaching kids age appropriate stiff about LGBTQ stuff. Love is love. Hate is hate. Know which camp I'd rather be in." Agreed not against other peoples beliefs or religions just people who force those on others is wrong. The amount of wars fought over disagreements over faith and religion is insane. Id rather be in the love camp all the way totally. | |||
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"What people's thoughts on the protests outside Birmingham schools, by protesters described as a mop by the BBC. Not whating the children taught LGBT lesson as the protestors see homosexuality as wrong ? I live in Rochdale.. I think it's an amusing problem for liberals and meet wing people to ponder. I just sit back on the sofa/eat my popcorn and laugh my tits off at what's happening. I am glad about all of this. Liberals and left wing people created 2 problems. Liberals: "we love you welcome to britain" Muslims "you are an infidel being gay is wrong" " You know if you're C of E its ok to be a gay man but you're not allowed to have sex with another man because the bible says it's wrong | |||
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"I support the LGBT community ( not in any active way mind ) however a child’s school day is shorter than ever and should be the core subjects that’s taught to kids Bringing lessons like this is not necessary it’s also parents jobs to educate there kids on subjects like this I don’t want my kids education on the core subjects to suffer because of this or anything like this , there will be something new in 5 or 10 years that will be taught in school that will again decrease the core subjects." I very much doubt the teaching of core subjects will suffer at all, this will be part of PD Personal Development which they already do. | |||
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"I support the LGBT community ( not in any active way mind ) however a child’s school day is shorter than ever and should be the core subjects that’s taught to kids Bringing lessons like this is not necessary it’s also parents jobs to educate there kids on subjects like this I don’t want my kids education on the core subjects to suffer because of this or anything like this , there will be something new in 5 or 10 years that will be taught in school that will again decrease the core subjects." Agreed always felt core subjects are main focus of school. Sure LGBTQ+ subjects should be mentioned but always thought sex education and those subjects are best handled by parents. Ours will know about these things and be more balanced as a result that some some 10min sex education class that results in laughter and teacher leaving room in embarrassment like i had lol. | |||
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"So if little Jonny is being dropped off at school hy his two dads no doubt they would have something to say about that. Homophobic idiots!!!Nothing wrong in teaching kids age appropriate stiff about LGBTQ stuff. Love is love. Hate is hate. Know which camp I'd rather be in. Agreed not against other peoples beliefs or religions just people who force those on others is wrong. The amount of wars fought over disagreements over faith and religion is insane. Id rather be in the love camp all the way totally."  | |||
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" You know if you're C of E its ok to be a gay man but you're not allowed to have sex with another man because the bible says it's wrong" I think it relates to sodomy (anal sex), please bear in mind, not all gay men participate in anal sex and plenty of straight couples do. | |||
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"I support the LGBT community ( not in any active way mind ) however a child’s school day is shorter than ever and should be the core subjects that’s taught to kids Bringing lessons like this is not necessary it’s also parents jobs to educate there kids on subjects like this I don’t want my kids education on the core subjects to suffer because of this or anything like this , there will be something new in 5 or 10 years that will be taught in school that will again decrease the core subjects. I very much doubt the teaching of core subjects will suffer at all, this will be part of PD Personal Development which they already do." Really? What about the next 2, 3, 5 or 10 issues are brought up that people demand be tolerated and taught to our kids. How long will theses PD classes last ? Parents have a responsibility to educate there children on these issues not school | |||
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"homophobic dinosaurs The press/ government has pretty much turned a blind eye to it, in fear of being deem racist." Its had loads of coverage | |||
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" You know if you're C of E its ok to be a gay man but you're not allowed to have sex with another man because the bible says it's wrong I think it relates to sodomy (anal sex), please bear in mind, not all gay men participate in anal sex and plenty of straight couples do." Is it ok for the bible to put limits on people because of their sexual preferences then? | |||
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"I support the LGBT community ( not in any active way mind ) however a child’s school day is shorter than ever and should be the core subjects that’s taught to kids Bringing lessons like this is not necessary it’s also parents jobs to educate there kids on subjects like this I don’t want my kids education on the core subjects to suffer because of this or anything like this , there will be something new in 5 or 10 years that will be taught in school that will again decrease the core subjects. Agreed always felt core subjects are main focus of school. Sure LGBTQ+ subjects should be mentioned but always thought sex education and those subjects are best handled by parents. Ours will know about these things and be more balanced as a result that some some 10min sex education class that results in laughter and teacher leaving room in embarrassment like i had lol." Like you had almost 30 years ago? Surprisingly things have changed. It cant be left entirely to the parents to educate children on this, what happens if the parents are extremely religious, or bigoted pieces of shit, how are they going to learn about it properly. It will in no way infringe on 'core subjects', this isnt something that is taught weekly it will be a couple of lessons throughout the year. Religious education is a weekly based lesson, under the same principles, do you also think this should be taught solely by the parents? Theres certain subjects that are nebulous and need to be taught by unbiased, Informed and educated people. Not left to be glossed over, ignored or taught begrudgingly by a parent that may not even know what they're talking about | |||
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" You know if you're C of E its ok to be a gay man but you're not allowed to have sex with another man because the bible says it's wrong I think it relates to sodomy (anal sex), please bear in mind, not all gay men participate in anal sex and plenty of straight couples do. Is it ok for the bible to put limits on people because of their sexual preferences then?" No definitely not, especially when said supposed rules (or whatever they are called) are basically based someone's interpretation of stories handed down through generations and written down hundreds, if not thousands of years after they are supposed to of happened. | |||
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"I support the LGBT community ( not in any active way mind ) however a child’s school day is shorter than ever and should be the core subjects that’s taught to kids Bringing lessons like this is not necessary it’s also parents jobs to educate there kids on subjects like this I don’t want my kids education on the core subjects to suffer because of this or anything like this , there will be something new in 5 or 10 years that will be taught in school that will again decrease the core subjects. Agreed always felt core subjects are main focus of school. Sure LGBTQ+ subjects should be mentioned but always thought sex education and those subjects are best handled by parents. Ours will know about these things and be more balanced as a result that some some 10min sex education class that results in laughter and teacher leaving room in embarrassment like i had lol. Like you had almost 30 years ago? Surprisingly things have changed. It cant be left entirely to the parents to educate children on this, what happens if the parents are extremely religious, or bigoted pieces of shit, how are they going to learn about it properly. It will in no way infringe on 'core subjects', this isnt something that is taught weekly it will be a couple of lessons throughout the year. Religious education is a weekly based lesson, under the same principles, do you also think this should be taught solely by the parents? Theres certain subjects that are nebulous and need to be taught by unbiased, Informed and educated people. Not left to be glossed over, ignored or taught begrudgingly by a parent that may not even know what they're talking about" Completely agree about parents some are wankers but chances are the kids will learn there tolerance from there parents anyway. As I say there is something new all the time and while lessons on this are occasional but what happens when the next 2, 4, 5 or 10 issues are added then ? My kids should not have there education suffer because of this or by other shit parents | |||
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"When our kids were at school you could choose to remove your children from sex education and religious ed lessons. Why don't they just do that? I don't like the idea of the state insisting that everyone is taught the same values. This doesn't mean that I'm against lgbt inclusion and acceptance it means I'm anti state interference in how we bring our children up." But when children are brought up to believe its a “sin” and in some countries put to death over their sexuality surely the future generations should be shown all sides to stop this. I went to school in an area of Muslims. We were taught by their parents the _estival of Eid and ate the food and joined in the celebrations. At Christmas they were taught about it and ate turkey dinner. It creates a far more tolerant environment when you know both sides | |||
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"When our kids were at school you could choose to remove your children from sex education and religious ed lessons. Why don't they just do that? I don't like the idea of the state insisting that everyone is taught the same values. This doesn't mean that I'm against lgbt inclusion and acceptance it means I'm anti state interference in how we bring our children up. But when children are brought up to believe its a “sin” and in some countries put to death over their sexuality surely the future generations should be shown all sides to stop this. I went to school in an area of Muslims. We were taught by their parents the _estival of Eid and ate the food and joined in the celebrations. At Christmas they were taught about it and ate turkey dinner. It creates a far more tolerant environment when you know both sides" Perfect and beautiful example of why this is something that the parents should educate there kids about. School should focus on core subjects | |||
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"When our kids were at school you could choose to remove your children from sex education and religious ed lessons. Why don't they just do that? I don't like the idea of the state insisting that everyone is taught the same values. This doesn't mean that I'm against lgbt inclusion and acceptance it means I'm anti state interference in how we bring our children up.can you imagine a country of conflicting values and the harmony it brings? Hang on a minute isn't that multiculturalism No, it's human beings living together in the same space. " How sweet and all getting on wonderfully | |||
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" You know if you're C of E its ok to be a gay man but you're not allowed to have sex with another man because the bible says it's wrong I think it relates to sodomy (anal sex), please bear in mind, not all gay men participate in anal sex and plenty of straight couples do. Is it ok for the bible to put limits on people because of their sexual preferences then?" Christianity has moved on into the modern world. However some religions are still backward. | |||
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"Of course, the parents are entitled to their views. But the louder they broadcast their homophobia, the more important it becomes that children are taught facts in school to counter the doctrine at home." Totally agree | |||
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"Of course, the parents are entitled to their views. But the louder they broadcast their homophobia, the more important it becomes that children are taught facts in school to counter the doctrine at home. Totally agree " | |||
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"Of course, the parents are entitled to their views. But the louder they broadcast their homophobia, the more important it becomes that children are taught facts in school to counter the doctrine at home. Totally agree " Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always " I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject. | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject." Kids of the age at schools involved are not being given sex education. They are being told about different kind of relationships. Single parent families, same sex parents, children being looked after my grandparents /extended families. Its important to inform children that not every family/living situation looks like theirs. I'm really not sure what these parents are frightened of. | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject." Some and not me take there religion as above everything and live life by how there god has spoken to them , right or wrong who’s to say. My point being if there religion is against this why shouldn’t they protest ? And I’ve pointed out about the DP stuff Core subjects first it has to be, parents do the rest | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject. Kids of the age at schools involved are not being given sex education. They are being told about different kind of relationships. Single parent families, same sex parents, children being looked after my grandparents /extended families. Its important to inform children that not every family/living situation looks like theirs. I'm really not sure what these parents are frightened of. " They frightened of western cultural. However if you don't agree with a nations values and beliefs, why would you want to stay. | |||
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" You know if you're C of E its ok to be a gay man but you're not allowed to have sex with another man because the bible says it's wrong I think it relates to sodomy (anal sex), please bear in mind, not all gay men participate in anal sex and plenty of straight couples do." It refers to "lying down with a man as you would with a woman". Considering we are built so differently, it would be a bit difficult to do with a man exactly what you do with a woman lying down. There is an opinion that this prohibition refers to temple prostitution, I.e. men dressed as women prostituting themselves to honor certain gods/idols. | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject. Kids of the age at schools involved are not being given sex education. They are being told about different kind of relationships. Single parent families, same sex parents, children being looked after my grandparents /extended families. Its important to inform children that not every family/living situation looks like theirs. I'm really not sure what these parents are frightened of. They frightened of western cultural. However if you don't agree with a nations values and beliefs, why would you want to stay. " So are you now saying they should just change there religious beliefs just to fit in with your beliefs???? | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject. Kids of the age at schools involved are not being given sex education. They are being told about different kind of relationships. Single parent families, same sex parents, children being looked after my grandparents /extended families. Its important to inform children that not every family/living situation looks like theirs. I'm really not sure what these parents are frightened of. They frightened of western cultural. However if you don't agree with a nations values and beliefs, why would you want to stay. So are you now saying they should just change there religious beliefs just to fit in with your beliefs????" If and when you visit certain Middle Eastern countries all woman including tourists are required to have arms and legs covered in public and couples are not allowed to kiss or hold hands in public. These are arrestsble offences and can lead to deportation. In some countries woman aren’t allowed to drive. Looking at someone of the opposite sex is considered adultery for a woman So should they change their beliefs to tolerate a western world or should we accept and embrace them as we know what the law is before we go? This is the 21st century and things have moved on and so should tolerance | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject. Kids of the age at schools involved are not being given sex education. They are being told about different kind of relationships. Single parent families, same sex parents, children being looked after my grandparents /extended families. Its important to inform children that not every family/living situation looks like theirs. I'm really not sure what these parents are frightened of. They frightened of western cultural. However if you don't agree with a nations values and beliefs, why would you want to stay. So are you now saying they should just change there religious beliefs just to fit in with your beliefs???? If and when you visit certain Middle Eastern countries all woman including tourists are required to have arms and legs covered in public and couples are not allowed to kiss or hold hands in public. These are arrestsble offences and can lead to deportation. In some countries woman aren’t allowed to drive. Looking at someone of the opposite sex is considered adultery for a woman So should they change their beliefs to tolerate a western world or should we accept and embrace them as we know what the law is before we go? This is the 21st century and things have moved on and so should tolerance " The point is ( and not my view ) but that’s there society and way of thinking When they are here of course that’s different, but the lgbt thing is new and certainly not ingrained into society , so why shouldn’t people protest and please stop making this about race no room fore hate here I’m against this in school also as it has no place to be there but I support lgbt rights and will argue that against anyone School is for core subject everything else is up to the parents | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject. Kids of the age at schools involved are not being given sex education. They are being told about different kind of relationships. Single parent families, same sex parents, children being looked after my grandparents /extended families. Its important to inform children that not every family/living situation looks like theirs. I'm really not sure what these parents are frightened of. They frightened of western cultural. However if you don't agree with a nations values and beliefs, why would you want to stay. So are you now saying they should just change there religious beliefs just to fit in with your beliefs???? If and when you visit certain Middle Eastern countries all woman including tourists are required to have arms and legs covered in public and couples are not allowed to kiss or hold hands in public. These are arrestsble offences and can lead to deportation. In some countries woman aren’t allowed to drive. Looking at someone of the opposite sex is considered adultery for a woman So should they change their beliefs to tolerate a western world or should we accept and embrace them as we know what the law is before we go? This is the 21st century and things have moved on and so should tolerance The point is ( and not my view ) but that’s there society and way of thinking When they are here of course that’s different, but the lgbt thing is new and certainly not ingrained into society , so why shouldn’t people protest and please stop making this about race no room fore hate here I’m against this in school also as it has no place to be there but I support lgbt rights and will argue that against anyone School is for core subject everything else is up to the parents " No ones meantioned race but you. | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject. Kids of the age at schools involved are not being given sex education. They are being told about different kind of relationships. Single parent families, same sex parents, children being looked after my grandparents /extended families. Its important to inform children that not every family/living situation looks like theirs. I'm really not sure what these parents are frightened of. They frightened of western cultural. However if you don't agree with a nations values and beliefs, why would you want to stay. So are you now saying they should just change there religious beliefs just to fit in with your beliefs???? If and when you visit certain Middle Eastern countries all woman including tourists are required to have arms and legs covered in public and couples are not allowed to kiss or hold hands in public. These are arrestsble offences and can lead to deportation. In some countries woman aren’t allowed to drive. Looking at someone of the opposite sex is considered adultery for a woman So should they change their beliefs to tolerate a western world or should we accept and embrace them as we know what the law is before we go? This is the 21st century and things have moved on and so should tolerance The point is ( and not my view ) but that’s there society and way of thinking When they are here of course that’s different, but the lgbt thing is new and certainly not ingrained into society , so why shouldn’t people protest and please stop making this about race no room fore hate here I’m against this in school also as it has no place to be there but I support lgbt rights and will argue that against anyone School is for core subject everything else is up to the parents " LGBT+ is new!!!!! Define new? It’s documented in Roman and Greek times and if you believe in religion in the Bible or Koran Core subjects haven’t changed. How relevant is Shakespeare and Chaucer, long division and geometry and much other stuff. As a post from yesterday was talking about isn’t it as important to teach life skills such as cooking, money management etc as there’s an obvious lack of that showing parents aren’t teaching their kids stuff and putting the onus on the schools | |||
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"homophobic dinosaurs Pretty much this, all they're doing is teaching kids that sometimes they may come across parents that are two dads or two mums, not always a dad and a mum and that its normal. From peoples reaction you would think they were showing them hardcore gay pornography" I totally agree! | |||
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Lol you’ve completely lost track here of course it never would my point is any more time taking from my kids core education is bad. Parents should be educating there kids about this at home"And the whole point is they’re not. If you’re so worried about education I guess you’re against golden time, making Christmas cards and Easter cards and gifts to take home for their parents, school plays and many other things and the length of holidays they have | |||
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Lol you’ve completely lost track here of course it never would my point is any more time taking from my kids core education is bad. Parents should be educating there kids about this at home
And the whole point is they’re not.
If you’re so worried about education I guess you’re against golden time, making Christmas cards and Easter cards and gifts to take home for their parents, school plays and many other things and the length of holidays they have "God no just if it isn’t broke don’t fix it ,, parents have to take responsibility in there children’s personnel education and development Am I saying something weird here ? My kids core education must come first | |||
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"Define core education? If you’re talking reading, writing and arithmetic then yes you’re right. Core education also needs to include things that reflect current life and issues. Please explain to me why we are still teaching Shakespeare and Chaucer who write in a form of English not really used anymore. Shouldn’t we be using more modern books that children can relate to. Life and the world has to keep evolving. I give you my answer from many messages ago. Why you may be teaching your children all the life skills they need there are many families that are not " Not sure why this is still going on but anyway Core subject eg: maths English physics biology chemistry history PE IT computer science Current life they learn from there parents, friends and online ( a lesson in school won’t change this or opinions ) Importance of Shakespeare??? There are so many benefits concerning English language let alone all the lessons can be learnt through the topics of his plays And if parents arnt teaching there kids that’s not my fault and my kids should have there education effected by this Life and the world does keep evolving but that’s not a school core topic Sorry but my kids education comes first always | |||
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"Define core education? If you’re talking reading, writing and arithmetic then yes you’re right. Core education also needs to include things that reflect current life and issues. Please explain to me why we are still teaching Shakespeare and Chaucer who write in a form of English not really used anymore. Shouldn’t we be using more modern books that children can relate to. Life and the world has to keep evolving. I give you my answer from many messages ago. Why you may be teaching your children all the life skills they need there are many families that are not Not sure why this is still going on but anyway Core subject eg: maths English physics biology chemistry history PE IT computer science Current life they learn from there parents, friends and online ( a lesson in school won’t change this or opinions ) Importance of Shakespeare??? There are so many benefits concerning English language let alone all the lessons can be learnt through the topics of his plays And if parents arnt teaching there kids that’s not my fault and my kids should have there education effected by this Life and the world does keep evolving but that’s not a school core topic Sorry but my kids education comes first always Shouldn’t be teaching Shakespeare he had homosexual characters and woman dressed as men....surely that should be taught at home by the parents...oh the irony " Lol yeah so why do they need this extra education on this subject needed ? The benefits of Shakespeare can cover a few topics. As your missing it here I will mention again , core education is the most important part of a kids school education so anything that takes time away from theses core subjects is wrong Kids have to come first even before the lgbt community feelings | |||
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"Define core education? If you’re talking reading, writing and arithmetic then yes you’re right. Core education also needs to include things that reflect current life and issues. Please explain to me why we are still teaching Shakespeare and Chaucer who write in a form of English not really used anymore. Shouldn’t we be using more modern books that children can relate to. Life and the world has to keep evolving. I give you my answer from many messages ago. Why you may be teaching your children all the life skills they need there are many families that are not Not sure why this is still going on but anyway Core subject eg: maths English physics biology chemistry history PE IT computer science Current life they learn from there parents, friends and online ( a lesson in school won’t change this or opinions ) Importance of Shakespeare??? There are so many benefits concerning English language let alone all the lessons can be learnt through the topics of his plays And if parents arnt teaching there kids that’s not my fault and my kids should have there education effected by this Life and the world does keep evolving but that’s not a school core topic Sorry but my kids education comes first always Shouldn’t be teaching Shakespeare he had homosexual characters and woman dressed as men....surely that should be taught at home by the parents...oh the irony Lol yeah so why do they need this extra education on this subject needed ? The benefits of Shakespeare can cover a few topics. As your missing it here I will mention again , core education is the most important part of a kids school education so anything that takes time away from theses core subjects is wrong Kids have to come first even before the lgbt community feelings Thankfully you aren't the minister for education...or are you? It's not necessarily about the feelings of the LGBT community, it's about teaching children that some children have 2 dads or 2 mums, and that's ok. You know tolerance and understanding about different family dynamics?? That will have hell of a lot more impact on society than whether some little prince or princess is doing extra trig. That way all kids needs can be heard, not just the select few. Fully support your view and opinion and that’s what I teach my kids 100%, but that’s a parents job not something a school should be doing School is for core education, sorry my kids come first and always will " Yes your kids should come first in your life. However, your kids are not the only ones this affects, so thankfully a more balanced approach is applied to education for all. Not all parents put their children first, these kids needs need to be heard. Your kids are ok, alot aren't and don't get the basic social stuff alot take for granted. | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject. Kids of the age at schools involved are not being given sex education. They are being told about different kind of relationships. Single parent families, same sex parents, children being looked after my grandparents /extended families. Its important to inform children that not every family/living situation looks like theirs. I'm really not sure what these parents are frightened of. They frightened of western cultural. However if you don't agree with a nations values and beliefs, why would you want to stay. So are you now saying they should just change there religious beliefs just to fit in with your beliefs???? If and when you visit certain Middle Eastern countries all woman including tourists are required to have arms and legs covered in public and couples are not allowed to kiss or hold hands in public. These are arrestsble offences and can lead to deportation. In some countries woman aren’t allowed to drive. Looking at someone of the opposite sex is considered adultery for a woman So should they change their beliefs to tolerate a western world or should we accept and embrace them as we know what the law is before we go? This is the 21st century and things have moved on and so should tolerance The point is ( and not my view ) but that’s there society and way of thinking When they are here of course that’s different, but the lgbt thing is new and certainly not ingrained into society , so why shouldn’t people protest and please stop making this about race no room fore hate here I’m against this in school also as it has no place to be there but I support lgbt rights and will argue that against anyone School is for core subject everything else is up to the parents LGBT+ is new!!!!! Define new? It’s documented in Roman and Greek times and if you believe in religion in the Bible or Koran Core subjects haven’t changed. How relevant is Shakespeare and Chaucer, long division and geometry and much other stuff. As a post from yesterday was talking about isn’t it as important to teach life skills such as cooking, money management etc as there’s an obvious lack of that showing parents aren’t teaching their kids stuff and putting the onus on the schools New as in before 5 years ago this wasn’t a conversation to have this brought into school education, and that not so long ago you could still be put in prison , I’m glad that has changed for the better and rightly so but it has no place in school education. Long division and geometry is still important for a wide verity of employment Cooking = Home Economics Money management = Maths I’m on the lgbt side 100% but shouldn’t be in school that’s all ,, and if the parents are shit the one lesson a month in school won’t change the kids opinion when the parents are intolerant My kids education must come first why is that hard to understand? Like already said by others, the children are not shown graphic images of homosexuality. Its about childrens books, try to explain that a normal family, relationship does not have to be between a man and woman. What you scare of?? Ps Dont rub two sticks together, it may combust and start this great new invention called FIRE.
Lol you’ve completely lost track here of course it never would my point is any more time taking from my kids core education is bad. Parents should be educating there kids about this at home"I think it you that needs to go back to school and learn some mathematics. " I'm 100% behind lbgt, however ??? Well then your not 100% are you. 100% is complete, all, the full pie. And it people like you that can't have a decision on an issue that will effect the next generation, with playing the race card. If it is religion that is making people protest outside school. Then religion is not race. | |||
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"Define core education? If you’re talking reading, writing and arithmetic then yes you’re right. Core education also needs to include things that reflect current life and issues. Please explain to me why we are still teaching Shakespeare and Chaucer who write in a form of English not really used anymore. Shouldn’t we be using more modern books that children can relate to. Life and the world has to keep evolving. I give you my answer from many messages ago. Why you may be teaching your children all the life skills they need there are many families that are not Not sure why this is still going on but anyway Core subject eg: maths English physics biology chemistry history PE IT computer science Current life they learn from there parents, friends and online ( a lesson in school won’t change this or opinions ) Importance of Shakespeare??? There are so many benefits concerning English language let alone all the lessons can be learnt through the topics of his plays And if parents arnt teaching there kids that’s not my fault and my kids should have there education effected by this Life and the world does keep evolving but that’s not a school core topic Sorry but my kids education comes first always Shouldn’t be teaching Shakespeare he had homosexual characters and woman dressed as men....surely that should be taught at home by the parents...oh the irony Lol yeah so why do they need this extra education on this subject needed ? The benefits of Shakespeare can cover a few topics. As your missing it here I will mention again , core education is the most important part of a kids school education so anything that takes time away from theses core subjects is wrong Kids have to come first even before the lgbt community feelings Thankfully you aren't the minister for education...or are you? It's not necessarily about the feelings of the LGBT community, it's about teaching children that some children have 2 dads or 2 mums, and that's ok. You know tolerance and understanding about different family dynamics?? That will have hell of a lot more impact on society than whether some little prince or princess is doing extra trig. That way all kids needs can be heard, not just the select few. Fully support your view and opinion and that’s what I teach my kids 100%, but that’s a parents job not something a school should be doing School is for core education, sorry my kids come first and always will Yes your kids should come first in your life. However, your kids are not the only ones this affects, so thankfully a more balanced approach is applied to education for all. Not all parents put their children first, these kids needs need to be heard. Your kids are ok, alot aren't and don't get the basic social stuff alot take for granted. But if the bad parents are against the lgbt community dosent matter what I taught in school the home will always influence more along with friends and the Internet. And no disrespect to anyone but something that only 6-7 % of the population identifies as dosent warrant a change in education I’m sure 10% of the population likes love island and that shouldn’t be taught in school how shit it is Using your love of statistics 59% of the uk is Christian, 5% Muslim, 4% Hindu, 25% no religion, 8% non stated, sikhism, judaism, buddhism, and all other states religions like Jedi are under 1% each, So in your education system we only teach Christianity and ignore all other religions and beliefs because they are under your 6% stated figure of where you think the line of education exists?" Do you know what, that’s actually a good point, welcome to the party. Something I haven’t put much thought into to be fair urrrrmmmm I’m not sure ( stumped ) Would have to think about that, I suppose the one thing I did say was concerning core education and I didn’t include religious studies in that soooooo yeah I’m not sure. I guess I could say I’ve no interest in religion personally but I think there is a place for it in schools ( maybe ) On the other hand I am a fan of the lgbt community and always look towards same rights for all ( you know what I mean ) but 100% sure this shouldn’t be part of the education system. I enjoy and am committed to my role of raising and educating my kids and don’t want school to do everything that would lead to lazy parenting Kids first sorry | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject. Kids of the age at schools involved are not being given sex education. They are being told about different kind of relationships. Single parent families, same sex parents, children being looked after my grandparents /extended families. Its important to inform children that not every family/living situation looks like theirs. I'm really not sure what these parents are frightened of. They frightened of western cultural. However if you don't agree with a nations values and beliefs, why would you want to stay. So are you now saying they should just change there religious beliefs just to fit in with your beliefs???? If and when you visit certain Middle Eastern countries all woman including tourists are required to have arms and legs covered in public and couples are not allowed to kiss or hold hands in public. These are arrestsble offences and can lead to deportation. In some countries woman aren’t allowed to drive. Looking at someone of the opposite sex is considered adultery for a woman So should they change their beliefs to tolerate a western world or should we accept and embrace them as we know what the law is before we go? This is the 21st century and things have moved on and so should tolerance The point is ( and not my view ) but that’s there society and way of thinking When they are here of course that’s different, but the lgbt thing is new and certainly not ingrained into society , so why shouldn’t people protest and please stop making this about race no room fore hate here I’m against this in school also as it has no place to be there but I support lgbt rights and will argue that against anyone School is for core subject everything else is up to the parents LGBT+ is new!!!!! Define new? It’s documented in Roman and Greek times and if you believe in religion in the Bible or Koran Core subjects haven’t changed. How relevant is Shakespeare and Chaucer, long division and geometry and much other stuff. As a post from yesterday was talking about isn’t it as important to teach life skills such as cooking, money management etc as there’s an obvious lack of that showing parents aren’t teaching their kids stuff and putting the onus on the schools New as in before 5 years ago this wasn’t a conversation to have this brought into school education, and that not so long ago you could still be put in prison , I’m glad that has changed for the better and rightly so but it has no place in school education. Long division and geometry is still important for a wide verity of employment Cooking = Home Economics Money management = Maths I’m on the lgbt side 100% but shouldn’t be in school that’s all ,, and if the parents are shit the one lesson a month in school won’t change the kids opinion when the parents are intolerant My kids education must come first why is that hard to understand? Like already said by others, the children are not shown graphic images of homosexuality. Its about childrens books, try to explain that a normal family, relationship does not have to be between a man and woman. What you scare of?? Ps Dont rub two sticks together, it may combust and start this great new invention called FIRE.
Lol you’ve completely lost track here of course it never would my point is any more time taking from my kids core education is bad. Parents should be educating there kids about this at home
I think it you that needs to go back to school and learn some mathematics. " I'm 100% behind lbgt, however ???
Well then your not 100% are you. 100% is complete, all, the full pie. And it people like you that can't have a decision on an issue that will effect the next generation, with playing the race card. If it is religion that is making people protest outside school. Then religion is not race."Aww bless and your right I’m not behind the lbgt community?? It’s the lgbt community I support , but should it be taught in schools, noooooooo Sorry if you didn’t understand the connotation that was mentioned earlier by the other person it might be worth looking at again. I’m actively raising my kids to be tolerant and understanding of everyone but not a walk over as a parent that’s my job ,, schools shouldn’t raise your kids for you | |||
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" Maybe just maybe they are not homophobic and just care about there child’s education. That’s why I might of protested ( I haven’t ) my kids education first always I think you will find this is all about their religion being totally incompatible with LBGT, there is no evidence what so ever that this will impact of teaching of core subjects, it will fall in to Personal Development which is already taught as a subject. Some and not me take there religion as above everything and live life by how there god has spoken to them , right or wrong who’s to say. My point being if there religion is against this why shouldn’t they protest ? " Because their religion is not the only way to live. If their religion bans something, that's their choice. But people of other religions,or none, may have other lifestyles that are equally valid, and children should be educated about the world as it is, not how religion thinks it should be. | |||
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"Not a question of not wanting others to hear a different opinion. Just not the job of schools to impart that sort of information. Stick to educating children. Do not become involved in "social engineering"." Without sounding demeaning in any way looking at your age you were educated in a generation before social media, the internet, probably the cane or some kind of discipline used, in a totally different era with different pressures and problems to the current one. Everyone from the generation before the last can say this. Surely we have to move on and accept that what is current to this one is what needs to be taught and discussed? Social engineering needs to be taught to children as we are living in a social media world. How many people, including in the public eye, have written something on social media which has earned them the sack from a job or prosecution. Or how many people including famous(ish) people have done videos and pictures that have ended up on the internet. Most of the profiles I read on here have the “do not give you the right to my pictures” under the privacy part of fab you have to opt out of your pictures being part of a google search against your name | |||
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"I support the LGBT community ( not in any active way mind ) however a child’s school day is shorter than ever and should be the core subjects that’s taught to kids Bringing lessons like this is not necessary it’s also parents jobs to educate there kids on subjects like this I don’t want my kids education on the core subjects to suffer because of this or anything like this , there will be something new in 5 or 10 years that will be taught in school that will again decrease the core subjects. Agreed always felt core subjects are main focus of school. Sure LGBTQ+ subjects should be mentioned but always thought sex education and those subjects are best handled by parents. Ours will know about these things and be more balanced as a result that some some 10min sex education class that results in laughter and teacher leaving room in embarrassment like i had lol. Like you had almost 30 years ago? Surprisingly things have changed. It cant be left entirely to the parents to educate children on this, what happens if the parents are extremely religious, or bigoted pieces of shit, how are they going to learn about it properly. It will in no way infringe on 'core subjects', this isnt something that is taught weekly it will be a couple of lessons throughout the year. Religious education is a weekly based lesson, under the same principles, do you also think this should be taught solely by the parents? Theres certain subjects that are nebulous and need to be taught by unbiased, Informed and educated people. Not left to be glossed over, ignored or taught begrudgingly by a parent that may not even know what they're talking about" well if the parents are extremely religious or bigoted peices of shit like you say no amount of lessons at school will have any effect on that childs outlook.10-15 min lesseon once or twice a month is gona have no bearing if the child lives in a hoousehold like that. | |||
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"Wondering if the people on here commenting have children, and if they do why they expect school to do all the parenting for them ? As a father I take my role seriously I have 600 hundred children. People are not expecting us to parent their children they do however expect us to educate them and dispite what you and the other guy says, teaching children that the world is a vibrant, diverse place where no one should be persecuted or bullied because of the color of their skin, who they love or belief system. Its not rocket science its basic education. " Fuc you must have a great time on fab then Unfortunately basic education is the core subjects the rest you mentioned is super important but is additional education, and that’s the part that parents should educate. I for one love sharing all that with my kids. Parents shouldn’t leave the school to raise there kids | |||
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"Wondering if the people on here commenting have children, and if they do why they expect school to do all the parenting for them ? As a father I take my role seriously I have 600 hundred children. People are not expecting us to parent their children they do however expect us to educate them and dispite what you and the other guy says, teaching children that the world is a vibrant, diverse place where no one should be persecuted or bullied because of the color of their skin, who they love or belief system. Its not rocket science its basic education. Fuc you must have a great time on fab then Unfortunately basic education is the core subjects the rest you mentioned is super important but is additional education, and that’s the part that parents should educate. I for one love sharing all that with my kids. Parents shouldn’t leave the school to raise there kids " OK iv tried but I give up now. | |||
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"Ps What's all the crap about "time away from core subjects" its all part of personal development. It in no way takes time away from "core subjects" Times have changed drastically. I went to a private convent school run by nuns and was taught the only acceptable form of contraception was the "rythem method" or withdrawal.. neither work as the head girl got knocked up by the music teacher at 15. Move on 20 years and both my kids go to catholic schools and have had discussions on contraception, and safe sex and most importantly love, acceptance and tolerance. However it comes..they didnt miss Maths or English. Its worked into the curriculum. Your so worried about that, do you have a problem with art and drama? Do they take away from core subjects? They are all about freedom of expression too?" Ok to be fair it’s a long thread so you probably missed me saying why this will effect the core subjects and what responsibilities me as a parent has in my kids development. so I will skip passed that Now please remember I support fully the lgbt community My question is how should kids be taught this in school ? Is it just the personal development lessons in school ? | |||
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"The easiest way to put it is if you agree that religious education should be taught in school to increase knowledge, tolerance and understanding then you cannot argue that the same should not be applied to lgbt matters. Even more so as religion is a choice, the latter isnt" I’m not religious in any way but the above is so not true and this isn’t a dig or anything as I say I’m a supporter but my kids need to come first that’s all. The percentage I found online was that lgbt in total was 6-7% of the uk population. Now I don’t have a statistic on religion but I would be surprised if it wasn’t a lot lot of a higher percentage. That’s why ( even though I’m not a fan ) religious studies have a place in schools | |||
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"The easiest way to put it is if you agree that religious education should be taught in school to increase knowledge, tolerance and understanding then you cannot argue that the same should not be applied to lgbt matters. Even more so as religion is a choice, the latter isnt I’m not religious in any way but the above is so not true and this isn’t a dig or anything as I say I’m a supporter but my kids need to come first that’s all. The percentage I found online was that lgbt in total was 6-7% of the uk population. Now I don’t have a statistic on religion but I would be surprised if it wasn’t a lot lot of a higher percentage. That’s why ( even though I’m not a fan ) religious studies have a place in schools " 4.4% Muslim 0.43% Jewish 1.3% hindu Christian's are somewhere in the 40s but not necessarily practicing. More than half the uk population has no religion | |||
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"When our kids were at school you could choose to remove your children from sex education and religious ed lessons. Why don't they just do that? I don't like the idea of the state insisting that everyone is taught the same values. This doesn't mean that I'm against lgbt inclusion and acceptance it means I'm anti state interference in how we bring our children up." | |||
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"I have brought my kids up to know that sexuality is like a sliding scale. The start of the scale is heterosexual. We are all on the scale somewhere. Absolutely no labels, ever. Abby is not their biological father but they accept her totally. If only everyone could accept that no two people are the same. Miss V" Perfect, it’s definitely the parents job to do this part and other part of social development for there kids, schools shouldn’t be the institution to raise your kids | |||
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"I don’t like Muslims... full stop... before you all get on our backs... and don’t agree with anything they say or do.... but agree in some way with this... you should have a say if you want your kids to learn about this, as if it’s the norm...you need a man and a woman to produce kids... if everyone was like this , the human race would be extinct in 100 years !!!!!!!" What are you afraid of? Do you believe sexuality is taught? Who taught you yours? | |||
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"I don’t like Muslims... full stop... before you all get on our backs... and don’t agree with anything they say or do.... but agree in some way with this... you should have a say if you want your kids to learn about this, as if it’s the norm...you need a man and a woman to produce kids... if everyone was like this , the human race would be extinct in 100 years !!!!!!!" One, the human race needs to halt its population growth or there won’t be a population in a couple of hundred years. Two, this isn’t the “norm”, it’s accepting that minorities exist and breeding a tolerance for their alternative lifestyles to your own. Your post is hypocritical as you don’t tolerate a religious minority (Muslims) in any way and your sexual preferences would have been frowned upon 30yrs ago and you’d have been completely ostracised 70yrs ago for interracial sex. With respect to teaching children that alternative families exist and it is ok, isn’t the same as encouraging them. I’d love it if all parents taught tolerance of freedom of religion or sexuality, but they don’t. It is the schools job to espouse equality and acceptance - a key to living in the modern world. Unfortunately, racial and sexual bigotry seems to be a throwback to our generation. Let’s hope future generations can be a little more tolerant. | |||
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"I don’t like Muslims... full stop... before you all get on our backs... and don’t agree with anything they say or do.... but agree in some way with this... you should have a say if you want your kids to learn about this, as if it’s the norm...you need a man and a woman to produce kids... if everyone was like this , the human race would be extinct in 100 years !!!!!!! One, the human race needs to halt its population growth or there won’t be a population in a couple of hundred years. Two, this isn’t the “norm”, it’s accepting that minorities exist and breeding a tolerance for their alternative lifestyles to your own. Your post is hypocritical as you don’t tolerate a religious minority (Muslims) in any way and your sexual preferences would have been frowned upon 30yrs ago and you’d have been completely ostracised 70yrs ago for interracial sex. With respect to teaching children that alternative families exist and it is ok, isn’t the same as encouraging them. I’d love it if all parents taught tolerance of freedom of religion or sexuality, but they don’t. It is the schools job to espouse equality and acceptance - a key to living in the modern world. Unfortunately, racial and sexual bigotry seems to be a throwback to our generation. Let’s hope future generations can be a little more tolerant. " I agree with almost all of that apart from saying it’s the schools job. The schools job is to prepare the pupil for higher education or to enter the work force. It’s the parents job to prepare there kids for the real world or the big bad world. Yes some parents are wankers but that shouldn’t interfere in the schools responsibility to teach children the core subjects. Parents who expect schools to raise there children are lazy and just as bad as the bigots and homophobes, and is a form of child cruelty | |||
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" One, the human race needs to halt its population growth or there won’t be a population in a couple of hundred years. Two, this isn’t the “norm”, it’s accepting that minorities exist and breeding a tolerance for their alternative . . . " It took the human race 100,000 years to reach 1 billion people by 1800AD. It has taken just another 200 years to hit 8 billion. Given that same-sex relations have always existed, I really do not understand the "end of the world is nigh" paranoia. Perhaps it is the straight people who need to show some restraint. Or have more gay babies. | |||
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"When our kids were at school you could choose to remove your children from sex education and religious ed lessons. Why don't they just do that? I don't like the idea of the state insisting that everyone is taught the same values. This doesn't mean that I'm against lgbt inclusion and acceptance it means I'm anti state interference in how we bring our children up." The thing is this isn’t “values” this is 100% fact and science. It’s not the same as a religion or even a belief system or a law. It’s just a fact of life that some people like others of the same sex. | |||
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"I don’t like Muslims... full stop... before you all get on our backs... and don’t agree with anything they say or do.... but agree in some way with this... you should have a say if you want your kids to learn about this, as if it’s the norm...you need a man and a woman to produce kids... if everyone was like this , the human race would be extinct in 100 years !!!!!!!" Christ almighty, get back in your cave | |||
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"When our kids were at school you could choose to remove your children from sex education and religious ed lessons. Why don't they just do that? I don't like the idea of the state insisting that everyone is taught the same values. This doesn't mean that I'm against lgbt inclusion and acceptance it means I'm anti state interference in how we bring our children up.can you imagine a country of conflicting values and the harmony it brings? Hang on a minute isn't that multiculturalism No, it's human beings living together in the same space. Well that's the point the protesters are not. A school should be a place of calm and learning. You shouldn't have to take your kids to school through a baying mob. No, you shouldn't. I don't agree with the way the protesters are behaving." It isn't that they are trying to teach everyone the same values. It's just making people aware so they don't grow up ignorant like their parents. then children can make an informed choice instead of judging.
If you are one of those parents who removed your children from sex education then maybe you should have also received a lesson so you could be less narrow minded. Those are the parents who won't let their 15 year old watch an 18 or like someone in my daughters class is 13 and didn't know anything about periods and has to use plastic cups.
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"Christ almighty, get back in your cave Do you really need to blaspheme..?" Considering every single person on this site is a 'sinner' how about we dont argue about blasphemy eh? | |||
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"When our kids were at school you could choose to remove your children from sex education and religious ed lessons. Why don't they just do that? I don't like the idea of the state insisting that everyone is taught the same values. This doesn't mean that I'm against lgbt inclusion and acceptance it means I'm anti state interference in how we bring our children up.can you imagine a country of conflicting values and the harmony it brings? Hang on a minute isn't that multiculturalism No, it's human beings living together in the same space. Well that's the point the protesters are not. A school should be a place of calm and learning. You shouldn't have to take your kids to school through a baying mob. No, you shouldn't. I don't agree with the way the protesters are behaving. It isn't that they are trying to teach everyone the same values. It's just making people aware so they don't grow up ignorant like their parents. then children can make an informed choice instead of judging.
If you are one of those parents who removed your children from sex education then maybe you should have also received a lesson so you could be less narrow minded. Those are the parents who won't let their 15 year old watch an 18 or like someone in my daughters class is 13 and didn't know anything about periods and has to use plastic cups.
This kind of information needs to be taught. "What was that all about ?? 1: if the parents are ignorant why do you think a brief chat about the lgbt will make any difference as the child lives and looks up to there ignorant parents 2: if a parent takes there kid out of a sex education lesson how does that make them narrow minded ? 3: only narrow minded people won’t let there 15yr old watch a 18yr old film ?? These 3 are laughable, school is for core subjects. Parents have a job to raise there children and not be lazy and let the school raise them | |||
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"homophobic dinosaurs Pretty much this, all they're doing is teaching kids that sometimes they may come across parents that are two dads or two mums, not always a dad and a mum and that its normal. From peoples reaction you would think they were showing them hardcore gay pornography" | |||
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"I have brought my kids up to know that sexuality is like a sliding scale. The start of the scale is heterosexual. We are all on the scale somewhere. Absolutely no labels, ever. Abby is not their biological father but they accept her totally. If only everyone could accept that no two people are the same. Miss V Perfect, it’s definitely the parents job to do this part and other part of social development for there kids, schools shouldn’t be the institution to raise your kids" Thank you | |||
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"homophobic dinosaurs The press/ government has pretty much turned a blind eye to it, in fear of being deem racist. The BBC reported on it this morning. I wonder what that odious twat Owen Jones has to say about this, he likes to think he speaks for those of us who are LBGT yet defends to the hilt those that follow a religion that is totally incompatible with homosexuality." Which religion is that then? Do you mean the christians, the muslims, the jews perhaps? All three of the major monotheistic religions are homophobic. All traced back to Abraham, all stupid for believing an ignoramous from several millania ago. Owen Jones believes that we should be all inclusive. True, some muslims are hard line but then no different from some christians and some jews. The trouble is not people like Owen Jones "who likes to think he speaks for" whoever, it's those power crazed religious leaders who want to bend everyone elses will to their interpretation of god. I'd like to believe in the rapture, if only to rid the world of 50% of it's stupidity. (ps: I purposely used lower case for god, muslims etc because capitisation is a sign of respect and in no way do I respect religion or it's followers ) | |||
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"homophobic dinosaurs The press/ government has pretty much turned a blind eye to it, in fear of being deem racist. The BBC reported on it this morning. I wonder what that odious twat Owen Jones has to say about this, he likes to think he speaks for those of us who are LBGT yet defends to the hilt those that follow a religion that is totally incompatible with homosexuality. Which religion is that then? Do you mean the christians, the muslims, the jews perhaps? All three of the major monotheistic religions are homophobic. All traced back to Abraham, all stupid for believing an ignoramous from several millania ago. Owen Jones believes that we should be all inclusive. True, some muslims are hard line but then no different from some christians and some jews. The trouble is not people like Owen Jones "who likes to think he speaks for" whoever, it's those power crazed religious leaders who want to bend everyone elses will to their interpretation of god. I'd like to believe in the rapture, if only to rid the world of 50% of it's stupidity. (ps: I purposely used lower case for god, muslims etc because capitisation is a sign of respect and in no way do I respect religion or it's followers )"A very accepting attitude to people’s choices and beliefs, some may say even hypocritical..  | |||
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"Now matter how hard thay protest or if they get their way, it won't stop some of their children growing up to become (or want to become) members of the LGBT community. The crying shame is that they wouldn't have been educated to understand that their sexuality is not a thing to hide and, being brought up by such unbending parents of faith, they may have to live their entire lives in denial." Agreed but it works the other way also no matter how much you teach acceptance there will still be bigots and homophobia so this is why it dosent belong in schools Parents need to raise there kids and not let school do it. School is to get kids ready for further education or to join the work force. Come on this isn’t hard to understand, if you have kids take responsibility | |||
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"If it wasnt for religion the world would be a better place "Errr....no it would be a worse place. Certainly if there was no Christianity... | |||
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"If it wasnt for religion the world would be a better place
Errr....no it would be a worse place. Certainly if there was no Christianity..."If you genuinely believe that then you are delusional | |||
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"If it wasnt for religion the world would be a better place
Errr....no it would be a worse place. Certainly if there was no Christianity...
If you genuinely believe that then you are delusional"Yes, I am proud to be a Believer !! | |||
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"If it wasnt for religion the world would be a better place
Errr....no it would be a worse place. Certainly if there was no Christianity..."How does it make the earth a better place for a non believer like me? | |||
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"If it wasnt for religion the world would be a better place
Errr....no it would be a worse place. Certainly if there was no Christianity..."Ask that to the children the Roman Catholic priests have abused and covered up for years including one of the Popes covering it up | |||
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"Christ almighty, get back in your cave Do you really need to blaspheme..? here here" Are you here just to troll? Disgusted by your comments on this thread. | |||
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