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"Ooooh sneaky tac tics! lure them into a honeytrap and then block em lol xx" Too bloody right...passes the time when there are no peasants to whip | |||
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"I only play with fuck buddies.... im not sure id want to share somebody i loved and them being willing to share me would open up all sorts of insecurities. That said if they didn't specifically say they were only fuck buddies i can see why you were a little upset.... Mind i think them only being together two years and feeling secure and stable enough to swing together would have been more of an issue for me. Each to their own i supose. Frankly i think id rather play with fuck buddies swinging as a couple than an insecure 'couple' where feelings may get in the way." Thing is, we only play with genuine couples because we like to play with people who get the same out of it as us, we like having feeling, ok not insecure feelings, we dont get them we are strong as a couple, but for me I wouldnt enjoy swinging if it was just about the sex, the feelings are so important for us, and you just wouldnt get that with fuck buddies. | |||
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"I only play with fuck buddies.... im not sure id want to share somebody i loved and them being willing to share me would open up all sorts of insecurities. That said if they didn't specifically say they were only fuck buddies i can see why you were a little upset.... Mind i think them only being together two years and feeling secure and stable enough to swing together would have been more of an issue for me. Each to their own i supose. Frankly i think id rather play with fuck buddies swinging as a couple than an insecure 'couple' where feelings may get in the way. Thing is, we only play with genuine couples because we like to play with people who get the same out of it as us, we like having feeling, ok not insecure feelings, we dont get them we are strong as a couple, but for me I wouldnt enjoy swinging if it was just about the sex, the feelings are so important for us, and you just wouldnt get that with fuck buddies." Which is precisely why i said each to their own. I would disagree with Fuckbuddies not having feelings..... long term regular buddies can be far more secure than a normal couples, their is a level of honesty for me personally. Ive met with couples where its more the guys idea (and vice versa) and she has simply gone along with things to fulfill fantasies for him, it doesnt work. | |||
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"I only play with fuck buddies.... im not sure id want to share somebody i loved and them being willing to share me would open up all sorts of insecurities. That said if they didn't specifically say they were only fuck buddies i can see why you were a little upset.... Mind i think them only being together two years and feeling secure and stable enough to swing together would have been more of an issue for me. Each to their own i supose. Frankly i think id rather play with fuck buddies swinging as a couple than an insecure 'couple' where feelings may get in the way. Thing is, we only play with genuine couples because we like to play with people who get the same out of it as us, we like having feeling, ok not insecure feelings, we dont get them we are strong as a couple, but for me I wouldnt enjoy swinging if it was just about the sex, the feelings are so important for us, and you just wouldnt get that with fuck buddies. Which is precisely why i said each to their own. I would disagree with Fuckbuddies not having feelings..... long term regular buddies can be far more secure than a normal couples, their is a level of honesty for me personally. Ive met with couples where its more the guys idea (and vice versa) and she has simply gone along with things to fulfill fantasies for him, it doesnt work." I will ad i did say CAN BE more secure.... not that they ARE more secure lol | |||
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"I only play with fuck buddies.... im not sure id want to share somebody i loved and them being willing to share me would open up all sorts of insecurities. That said if they didn't specifically say they were only fuck buddies i can see why you were a little upset.... Mind i think them only being together two years and feeling secure and stable enough to swing together would have been more of an issue for me. Each to their own i supose. Frankly i think id rather play with fuck buddies swinging as a couple than an insecure 'couple' where feelings may get in the way." Surely a swinging site is the last place for any couple with insecurities. Trace & Ric XXXX | |||
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"I only play with fuck buddies.... im not sure id want to share somebody i loved and them being willing to share me would open up all sorts of insecurities. That said if they didn't specifically say they were only fuck buddies i can see why you were a little upset.... Mind i think them only being together two years and feeling secure and stable enough to swing together would have been more of an issue for me. Each to their own i supose. Frankly i think id rather play with fuck buddies swinging as a couple than an insecure 'couple' where feelings may get in the way." I think it was the fact that they were cheating scumbags that was the problem. Fuck buddies is one thing.... I've had them myself in the past (when I was very single I might add) but to play with a couple who you are told are 'together' and then find out they are BOTH cheating, idiotic, halfwitted, arsewipes is beyond the pale...... And to be honest...... swinging is the very last place for anyone with any insecurities. I've lost boyfriends or potential boyfriends when I told them I was a swinger (and NO, i never cheated on them). If someone swings as a single but would not swing as a couple then thats fine...... but have you thought about how you are going to explain past antics to the new partner? Believe me, if you get into a relationship with a non-swinger, insecurities about your possible faithfullness will surface from day 1. I abhore cheating.......... and there is NEVER any good or justifable reason to cheat......... But then, I've married a swinger..... so all's well! | |||
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"I only play with fuck buddies.... im not sure id want to share somebody i loved and them being willing to share me would open up all sorts of insecurities. That said if they didn't specifically say they were only fuck buddies i can see why you were a little upset.... Mind i think them only being together two years and feeling secure and stable enough to swing together would have been more of an issue for me. Each to their own i supose. Frankly i think id rather play with fuck buddies swinging as a couple than an insecure 'couple' where feelings may get in the way." How sad is that sentiment, "not sure I could share someone I love" but more than happy to share someome that someone else loves...............selfish fucker! | |||
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"I only play with fuck buddies.... im not sure id want to share somebody i loved and them being willing to share me would open up all sorts of insecurities. That said if they didn't specifically say they were only fuck buddies i can see why you were a little upset.... Mind i think them only being together two years and feeling secure and stable enough to swing together would have been more of an issue for me. Each to their own i supose. Frankly i think id rather play with fuck buddies swinging as a couple than an insecure 'couple' where feelings may get in the way. How sad is that sentiment, "not sure I could share someone I love" but more than happy to share someome that someone else loves...............selfish fucker!" Selfish? Perhaps i agree; but im certain if he wasn't cheating with me to swing he would be doing it with somebody else. At least he could be sure that i do not want a relationship with him (lol the cheating bastard!) and am not going to try to wreck whatever he has of a marriage. | |||
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"I only play with fuck buddies.... im not sure id want to share somebody i loved and them being willing to share me would open up all sorts of insecurities. That said if they didn't specifically say they were only fuck buddies i can see why you were a little upset.... Mind i think them only being together two years and feeling secure and stable enough to swing together would have been more of an issue for me. Each to their own i supose. Frankly i think id rather play with fuck buddies swinging as a couple than an insecure 'couple' where feelings may get in the way. How sad is that sentiment, "not sure I could share someone I love" but more than happy to share someome that someone else loves...............selfish fucker! Selfish? Perhaps i agree; but im certain if he wasn't cheating with me to swing he would be doing it with somebody else. At least he could be sure that i do not want a relationship with him (lol the cheating bastard!) and am not going to try to wreck whatever he has of a marriage. " And that makes it right? Does it heck as like. You and he are not swingers and that is a very important distinction to make. You and he are a couple who have decided that the sanctity of his marriage is not important and are having an affair, you are not swinging. The fact that you also declare that you could not share a loved one in a swinging scenario also speaks volumes about your own insecurity issues. We played one time with a pair of fuck buddies and it was a very enjoyable evening. On the drive home we chatted about what we had just done and neither of us could get help but wonder what the partners of the two we had just met would think if they knew what had taken place. We also discussed how we would feel if one of us was doing it and decided not to meet with cheats ever again. Dress it up in any clothes you like but andyou and he are having an affair which in itself is sad enough but what’s sadder is that the affair is obviously not that satisfying for either of you and you now selfishly wish to embroil others in you little tryst | |||
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"It's comments like the ones that appear on this thread that puts others off from joining the forums and chatroom! Get a life people - we're all entitled to our own opinions on any topic discussed and shouldn't be slated for voicing them! **Sits back to wait for the comments!!**" I assume you meant the post before mine..lol..i hope x | |||
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"I only play with fuck buddies.... im not sure id want to share somebody i loved and them being willing to share me would open up all sorts of insecurities. That said if they didn't specifically say they were only fuck buddies i can see why you were a little upset.... Mind i think them only being together two years and feeling secure and stable enough to swing together would have been more of an issue for me. Each to their own i supose. Frankly i think id rather play with fuck buddies swinging as a couple than an insecure 'couple' where feelings may get in the way. How sad is that sentiment, "not sure I could share someone I love" but more than happy to share someome that someone else loves...............selfish fucker! Selfish? Perhaps i agree; but im certain if he wasn't cheating with me to swing he would be doing it with somebody else. At least he could be sure that i do not want a relationship with him (lol the cheating bastard!) and am not going to try to wreck whatever he has of a marriage. " Society has gone to pot up your way then! You can't surely justifiy to your self what you do, can you? When his wife finds out, you will be the home wrecker! but you are saying you wouldn't want to share your own parter? There's nowt so queer as folk as they say but there is nowt so queer as standards, morals and ethics. I firmly believe in Karma and I also firmly believe in what comes round, goes round. One day maybe, just maybe, a person that knowingly fucks a married person will find out what it's like to have their life ruined by cheating! | |||
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"Fook me lol.... Even more reasons why we only see genuine couples.. Tooo complex, too many issues not nice at all lol.... We like things simple.. Nice couples lol..Like next weekend.. Nice long weekend at a villa in Spain. How many fuck buddies can do that.. Not many I bet.... Can understand why they do.. just not for us at all." Can I come to spain too , Please :D | |||
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"Can i just point out... I am not currently seeing/fucking any married men lol (that i know of!) I have been cheated on in the past, its probably why i choose to play as i do for now as yes by my own admission i have too many insecurities around fidelity to have a meaningful relationship... yes its shit but life goes on. I have swung for around 7 years now and have always found the community and lifestyle suits my own needs and desires perfectly. MOST members of the community are both open and non judgmental,which is what attracts me and encourages me to continue. The mere fact that a minority see it as their own personal debt to society to rid the world of heartless homewrecking singletons who pretend to swing i find rather amusing. I have no need to justify anything to myself or anyone else for that matter. Each to their own, without judgment from others, is a rather important ethos of the lifestyle i choose to live " I apologise to you cus I've read the previous posts incorrectly. I was under the impression you were seeing a married man. **Maddie slinks off to a corner until some real cheating numpty pops their head over the parapet** | |||
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"It's comments like the ones that appear on this thread that puts others off from joining the forums and chatroom! Get a life people - we're all entitled to our own opinions on any topic discussed and shouldn't be slated for voicing them! **Sits back to wait for the comments!!** I assume you meant the post before mine..lol..i hope x" LOL!!! It was the whole thread...it looked like this site's forums was going to turn into one of those 'yes I agree with the leader' groups that abound on AFF...the main reason I left that site. I'd been a 'gobby tart' (other people's name for me not mine - lol) for 4 years on AFF and do love to voice my opinion but I'm not one of those that will agree for the sake of agreeing...I'm more a throw a pebble in the pond and watch the ripples hehe!! | |||
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"Can i just point out... I am not currently seeing/fucking any married men lol (that i know of!) I have been cheated on in the past, its probably why i choose to play as i do for now as yes by my own admission i have too many insecurities around fidelity to have a meaningful relationship... yes its shit but life goes on. I have swung for around 7 years now and have always found the community and lifestyle suits my own needs and desires perfectly. MOST members of the community are both open and non judgmental,which is what attracts me and encourages me to continue. The mere fact that a minority see it as their own personal debt to society to rid the world of heartless homewrecking singletons who pretend to swing i find rather amusing. I have no need to justify anything to myself or anyone else for that matter. Each to their own, without judgment from others, is a rather important ethos of the lifestyle i choose to live I apologise to you cus I've read the previous posts incorrectly. I was under the impression you were seeing a married man. **Maddie slinks off to a corner until some real cheating numpty pops their head over the parapet**" I guess you being a girl and all that Maddie the use of the word "currently" is lost on you......... | |||
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"Can i just point out... I am not currently seeing/fucking any married men lol (that i know of!) I have been cheated on in the past, its probably why i choose to play as i do for now as yes by my own admission i have too many insecurities around fidelity to have a meaningful relationship... yes its shit but life goes on. I have swung for around 7 years now and have always found the community and lifestyle suits my own needs and desires perfectly. MOST members of the community are both open and non judgmental,which is what attracts me and encourages me to continue. The mere fact that a minority see it as their own personal debt to society to rid the world of heartless homewrecking singletons who pretend to swing i find rather amusing. I have no need to justify anything to myself or anyone else for that matter. Each to their own, without judgment from others, is a rather important ethos of the lifestyle i choose to live I apologise to you cus I've read the previous posts incorrectly. I was under the impression you were seeing a married man. **Maddie slinks off to a corner until some real cheating numpty pops their head over the parapet** I guess you being a girl and all that Maddie the use of the word "currently" is lost on you........." No no no boy..... you think too much. I picked up on the word currently but I choose to save my beration for a time when it will do the most good! As you know...... I abhor cheats and those that have affairs with cheating scumbags but I will sit this one out for the moment and launch my vengence at a time that will be more suitable. Vengence comes to those that wait ...... | |||
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"Funny; Vengance was never a word i would ever have associated with swinging.... still we learn something new every day " And cheating is not a word that should ever be brought into the swinging world. But we all live and learn and everyone is different. Since I started swinging 9 years ago, I've learnt that swingers are generally more tolerant of others. However, the majority of swingers live their lives based on honesty, trust and respect. If someone choses to cheat and commit adultary (whereby they fuck another person without their partners consent) then that will get them really riled. How can you live a life based on the philosophy that you share your partner, or you share your sexuality when there are those that just pretend to live the same honest and liberated lifestyle as you. Swingers come in all shapes and sizes, with different temperaments and attitudes and some of us hold our morals alot higher than others! I used the word vengence because I hate to see cheating scumbags on here, pretending to use the swingers hat to get a 'behind the partners back fuck' and try to redeem themselves by saying that the swinging community deserves to feel bad because we are sexually free, and because I like to cause mischief with people that ..... | |||
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"i just read some of this forum then got an email from a couple profile saying he can come alone or as a couple i replied we didnt meet couples and he said im single shes just a fb...if she is why does it say couple all over thier profile and whos to say hes not cheating i think all fb's should have a singles profile and if they want to meet as a couple then give the people you want to meet your 'partners' username too. doesnt give so many mixed signals then" I would agree there... Or even have a separate profile for with the FB and refer to it from the single profile back to the cigle one from the couple/fb one rovided there is honesty i really dont see where the problem is Sure any infidelity is for the individual to live with and of nobody elses concern? | |||
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"Fook me lol.... Even more reasons why we only see genuine couples.. Tooo complex, too many issues not nice at all lol.... We like things simple.. Nice couples lol..Like next weekend.. Nice long weekend at a villa in Spain. How many fuck buddies can do that.. Not many I bet.... Can understand why they do.. just not for us at all. Can I come to spain too , Please :D" Spain is to play and be rude... Won't say where were off to soon after lol.. You'll miss us for the month... Then again maybe not lol.. | |||
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"i just read some of this forum then got an email from a couple profile saying he can come alone or as a couple i replied we didnt meet couples and he said im single shes just a fb...if she is why does it say couple all over thier profile and whos to say hes not cheating i think all fb's should have a singles profile and if they want to meet as a couple then give the people you want to meet your 'partners' username too. doesnt give so many mixed signals then I would agree there... Or even have a separate profile for with the FB and refer to it from the single profile back to the cigle one from the couple/fb one rovided there is honesty i really dont see where the problem is Sure any infidelity is for the individual to live with and of nobody elses concern?" No ones concern... No maybe not.. But we don't want any part in it... Would hate to think we were part of the problem making it easy for someone to just discard their marriage.. Nahhh | |||
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"i just read some of this forum then got an email from a couple profile saying he can come alone or as a couple i replied we didnt meet couples and he said im single shes just a fb...if she is why does it say couple all over thier profile and whos to say hes not cheating i think all fb's should have a singles profile and if they want to meet as a couple then give the people you want to meet your 'partners' username too. doesnt give so many mixed signals then I would agree there... Or even have a separate profile for with the FB and refer to it from the single profile back to the cigle one from the couple/fb one rovided there is honesty i really dont see where the problem is Sure any infidelity is for the individual to live with and of nobody elses concern?" "Sure any infidelity is for the individual to live with and of nobody elses concern?" complete tosh...... Of course it's the concern of the person they are fucking. I won't shag a cheater.......... I got caught once..... many years ago by a feckwit who gave me his landline number, who swore he was single, took me for meals etc...... Then.... one day..... his wife turned up on my doorset. She worked nights so it was easy for him to get away with the deceit. In the end, after many tears and tantrums, we because friends. I helped her divorce him and I still talk to her, 8 years later. It could have been so different. I know someone who was put in hospital by the wife, even though she thought he was single and even though she wasn't the only one who was being deceived by him. I won't end up in a situation like that just because some halfwit wants to get his leg over and can't be bothered or decides it's too expensive to get a divorce or sort out their own relationship first. Like I say, what comes round, goes round. I have no sympathy for anyone who knowingly meets a cheater and even less sympathy for anyone who gets involved with one. So....... in retrospect.... it is the concern of others! | |||
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""Get a life people - we're all entitled to our own opinions on any topic discussed and shouldn't be slated for voicing them!" Oh, the irony!!! (for those that don't get it!!!) Slating people for slating people!!! People who use the scene for cheating on their partners are NOT swingers! They are cheaters... As such, they have no place in our playtime!" well said you and the ones who are been dishonest bout been dishonest ae below contempt | |||
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"The only snag with that for us PD is how the hell do we know the true ones from the lying gits lol... Your right though.. nothing wrong with that at all.. " yeah mate but the 2 bright bubbly things at the club may be cheaters in a ltr ..so how you ever gonna know ..the short answer is ..you dont and you cant unless you dont do clubs and vet potentials carefully .unless someone knows a technique to out them | |||
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"well its normally the guy that cheats, and for the love of me I cant understand why?. surly having a g/f / wife that you swing with is more than enough. I have to say thou i have met one guy that told me he was married off this site,( and straight to hhhhmmmm) and i think i felt more guilty afterwards than him. I'll certianly not be doing that again. " i have seen loads of women cheating on thiw site some of them put it in there profiles as a reason for why discretion is needed. I cant possibly know all the reasons why, so like the poster above will not judge what i do not know about pd | |||
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"I am a married woman, playing without the knowledge of my husband. I play alone and with a friend who is also married, as a couple. On my profile as a single person I state that I am married. As a couple we also state that we are married, but not to each other. In any meet situation I/we point this out. I'm not saying that this makes things right, far from it. People have different reasons for being on this site and it is up to everyone to play within their preferences. Judge not, lest ye be judged" no finer word said...... | |||
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"Just had a thought, a sarcastic one albeit how abouts changing the enrollment specification for fab. state that all newcumers must hold up marriage certificate with names matching profile. That would soon empty the chuffing site. lmao" Without wishing to judge of course, but from our perspective that is not a bad idea, it would not empty the site but it would make it a little more genuine | |||
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"Just had a thought, a sarcastic one albeit how abouts changing the enrollment specification for fab. state that all newcumers must hold up marriage certificate with names matching profile. That would soon empty the chuffing site. lmao Without wishing to judge of course, but from our perspective that is not a bad idea, it would not empty the site but it would make it a little more genuine " So a swingers site just for married people then, or those married to each other and are a couple. So you show your marriage certificate to prove you are genuine?and you think it would work and isnt a bad idea? Maybe they should bring their passport to the meet, just to verify they are the person on the certificate!!! | |||
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"Just had a thought, a sarcastic one albeit how abouts changing the enrollment specification for fab. state that all newcumers must hold up marriage certificate with names matching profile. That would soon empty the chuffing site. lmao Without wishing to judge of course, but from our perspective that is not a bad idea, it would not empty the site but it would make it a little more genuine " Since when has being on this site and being being a married couple or single made people genuine. | |||
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"Just had a thought, a sarcastic one albeit how abouts changing the enrollment specification for fab. state that all newcumers must hold up marriage certificate with names matching profile. That would soon empty the chuffing site. lmao Without wishing to judge of course, but from our perspective that is not a bad idea, it would not empty the site but it would make it a little more genuine So a swingers site just for married people then, or those married to each other and are a couple. So you show your marriage certificate to prove you are genuine?and you think it would work and isnt a bad idea? Maybe they should bring their passport to the meet, just to verify they are the person on the certificate!!! " Plus a note from your mum if under 25 lol | |||
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"Just had a thought, a sarcastic one albeit how abouts changing the enrollment specification for fab. state that all newcumers must hold up marriage certificate with names matching profile. That would soon empty the chuffing site. lmao Without wishing to judge of course, but from our perspective that is not a bad idea, it would not empty the site but it would make it a little more genuine So a swingers site just for married people then, or those married to each other and are a couple. So you show your marriage certificate to prove you are genuine?and you think it would work and isnt a bad idea? Maybe they should bring their passport to the meet, just to verify they are the person on the certificate!!! Plus a note from your mum if under 25 lol" swinging DNA database...we should all be microchipped and scanned before a meet. | |||
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"han'nt mods and admin got enough to deal with???? pmsl" no, your lives are far too easy...time for a change...cracks whip, now back to work. lol | |||
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"Just had a thought, a sarcastic one albeit how abouts changing the enrollment specification for fab. state that all newcumers must hold up marriage certificate with names matching profile. That would soon empty the chuffing site. lmao Without wishing to judge of course, but from our perspective that is not a bad idea, it would not empty the site but it would make it a little more genuine So a swingers site just for married people then, or those married to each other and are a couple. So you show your marriage certificate to prove you are genuine?and you think it would work and isnt a bad idea? Maybe they should bring their passport to the meet, just to verify they are the person on the certificate!!! Plus a note from your mum if under 25 lol swinging DNA database...we should all be microchipped and scanned before a meet." anyway start microchipping and scanning and am sure you will find me in the marked down counter with the best before date gone off....pmsl | |||
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"well lets all get back to what we originally got on this site for......pure fun and sex....lets leave our halos on the door mat as we walk through the door" Err mine's round my ankles | |||
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"well lets all get back to what we originally got on this site for......pure fun and sex....lets leave our halos on the door mat as we walk through the door Err mine's round my ankles" was talking about halo's aquawoman not yer chuffing knickers girl | |||
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"yeah come on the forum and get your morals scrutinised.....see if you fit the bill and if not ya fook off to those burning fires of hell and damnation never to be seen or heard of again" I will keep them stoked and welcome all who enter. | |||
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"well lets all get back to what we originally got on this site for......pure fun and sex....lets leave our halos on the door mat as we walk through the door" ooooohhh your such a baaaaad influence ...i love it ....satan is alive and well and on fabs ...pmsl how about a retinal scan or even penile scan to ensure the male matches the female married couple ...hhmmm thinks the cock shots on here could be used . | |||
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"well lets all get back to what we originally got on this site for......pure fun and sex....lets leave our halos on the door mat as we walk through the door ooooohhh your such a baaaaad influence ...i love it ....satan is alive and well and on fabs ...pmsl how about a retinal scan or even penile scan to ensure the male matches the female married couple ...hhmmm thinks the cock shots on here could be used ." well if it is the cock shots/scan they choose.....pleaseeeee pretty pleaseeee can i have the job.....will work 24/7 and not complain | |||
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" I thought swinging was about being open about what you want sexually. Not going behind a partners back for sex" i agree...its about openess and honesty. That way people can make their own minds up about what the right decision is for them. Its about not compromising your own moral code, not about judging others..tho its unlikely youre going to see compatability with people whose codes are different. x | |||
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" I thought swinging was about being open about what you want sexually. Not going behind a partners back for sex i agree...its about openess and honesty. That way people can make their own minds up about what the right decision is for them. Its about not compromising your own moral code, not about judging others..tho its unlikely youre going to see compatability with people whose codes are different. x" tell ya wot, lets all provide the following marriage certificate retinal scan cv and references from families and friends and of course lets bring a bit of bible bashing into the scenario as well....mix it all up and bedlam.... | |||
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"My views as well. I won't be part of it cheating. I thought swinging was about being open about what you want sexually. Not going behind a partners back for sex" Some do it cos it's there only option. What you supposed to do chrivel up and die | |||
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" I thought swinging was about being open about what you want sexually. Not going behind a partners back for sex i agree...its about openess and honesty. That way people can make their own minds up about what the right decision is for them. Its about not compromising your own moral code, not about judging others..tho its unlikely youre going to see compatability with people whose codes are different. x tell ya wot, lets all provide the following marriage certificate retinal scan cv and references from families and friends and of course lets bring a bit of bible bashing into the scenario as well....mix it all up and bedlam...." hmm long time since i went to sunday school..and thought i'd actually put in my post that its not about judging seems theres some judgements being made the other way tho | |||
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"Think this is always gonna be a subject of two opposing sides. Live and let live I say " I agree! It's not for me, but I won't be rude to people with a different view to mine. (not that i have seen it on here) i was on another chat forum and some of the women were so high and mighty. I can't be doing with people like that. | |||
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"Why should we not judge or at least have an opinion on this or any other subject? As Swingers are we supposed to set aside our moral code and accept everything that goes on in our community? The common call from those who admit to adultery on these sites is for others not to judge them, well all I ask is for them to treat us in the same way they would treat their own family and friends. Any of you posting on this thread who think what you do is right and proper go home tonight and sit down with your husband/wife/partner and fess up to what you do. Then call your mum/dad/brother/sister etc etc and tell them all about it. Then ring round your friends and work mates and tell them all about it. Then pop in here tomorrow and tell us the outcome and we can see if their opinion differs much from mine. There is this crazy notion that because we are swingers we are all supposed to be completely tolerant of everything other folk do but that idea is simply laughable. Some of us will not meet smokers. Some of us will not have anything to do with single guys or single women. Some of us will not indulge in any toilet matters so why should adultery be teated any differently? " ...and some people don't agree with swinging full stop, does that mean they are right? Do all swingers fess up about their lifestyle to everyone in their life? Is it right for those people to say to you what you do is wrong? | |||
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"Why should we not judge or at least have an opinion on this or any other subject? As Swingers are we supposed to set aside our moral code and accept everything that goes on in our community? The common call from those who admit to adultery on these sites is for others not to judge them, well all I ask is for them to treat us in the same way they would treat their own family and friends. Any of you posting on this thread who think what you do is right and proper go home tonight and sit down with your husband/wife/partner and fess up to what you do. Then call your mum/dad/brother/sister etc etc and tell them all about it. Then ring round your friends and work mates and tell them all about it. Then pop in here tomorrow and tell us the outcome and we can see if their opinion differs much from mine. There is this crazy notion that because we are swingers we are all supposed to be completely tolerant of everything other folk do but that idea is simply laughable. Some of us will not meet smokers. Some of us will not have anything to do with single guys or single women. Some of us will not indulge in any toilet matters so why should adultery be teated any differently? ...and some people don't agree with swinging full stop, does that mean they are right? Do all swingers fess up about their lifestyle to everyone in their life? Is it right for those people to say to you what you do is wrong?" People can say what they like about what WE do as we do it together. At the very worst there would be red faces all round if our secret came out. But what there would not be for us is broken homes, solicitors, divorce cases, children losing parents and homes and all the other in fighting which goes with a broken marriage........slightly different impact would you not agree? | |||
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"Why should we not judge or at least have an opinion on this or any other subject? As Swingers are we supposed to set aside our moral code and accept everything that goes on in our community? The common call from those who admit to adultery on these sites is for others not to judge them, well all I ask is for them to treat us in the same way they would treat their own family and friends. Any of you posting on this thread who think what you do is right and proper go home tonight and sit down with your husband/wife/partner and fess up to what you do. Then call your mum/dad/brother/sister etc etc and tell them all about it. Then ring round your friends and work mates and tell them all about it. Then pop in here tomorrow and tell us the outcome and we can see if their opinion differs much from mine. There is this crazy notion that because we are swingers we are all supposed to be completely tolerant of everything other folk do but that idea is simply laughable. Some of us will not meet smokers. Some of us will not have anything to do with single guys or single women. Some of us will not indulge in any toilet matters so why should adultery be teated any differently? ...and some people don't agree with swinging full stop, does that mean they are right? Do all swingers fess up about their lifestyle to everyone in their life? Is it right for those people to say to you what you do is wrong? People can say what they like about what WE do as we do it together. At the very worst there would be red faces all round if our secret came out. But what there would not be for us is broken homes, solicitors, divorce cases, children losing parents and homes and all the other in fighting which goes with a broken marriage........slightly different impact would you not agree?" Yes I would agree that, but not all peoples relationships are so entwined... I'm not knocking your choice, but maybe you shouldn't knock theirs so much. With married people, yes what they are doing is wrong, but what goes around comes around in the end. Yes it would be sad for the children, but it happens to lots of people and they turn out ok, if not stronger. I personally believe if a marriage is that loveless then its is better for the parents to be split rather than stay together for the sake of them. I've watched my best friend grow up in that situation since we were 7, and if I'm honest he's turned into a bit of a worthless bum, and his younger brother has turned out a bit funny too. They both hate their dad now. I think if he had been honest and got a divorce years ago they would probably have respected him more. Plus if it is known the guy was cheating then the divorce will settle more in favour of the wife. So maybe them getting caught out is a good thing? lol | |||
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"Why should we not judge or at least have an opinion on this or any other subject? As Swingers are we supposed to set aside our moral code and accept everything that goes on in our community? Some of us will not meet smokers. Some of us will not have anything to do with single guys or single women. Some of us will not indulge in any toilet matters so why should adultery be teated any differently? " So would you not entertain your non swinging friends if you knew one of them was having an affair? | |||
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" If you are a married man/women playing with with your partners "permission" please pass us by. " Would that include a swinging couple like us for example who also sometimes do solo meets, with the full permission of the other? Sometimes in fact if it's Rich doing the solo meet and the other fem is bi then maybe I will turn up after a few hours and join in the fun making it an FFM 3sum. That's not cheating surely, it's swinging isn't it? By anyone's definition. xxxxx Ju & Rich | |||
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" If you are a married man/women playing with with your partners "permission" please pass us by. Would that include a swinging couple like us for example who also sometimes do solo meets, with the full permission of the other? Sometimes in fact if it's Rich doing the solo meet and the other fem is bi then maybe I will turn up after a few hours and join in the fun making it an FFM 3sum. That's not cheating surely, it's swinging isn't it? By anyone's definition. xxxxx Ju & Rich" at the end of the day hun i just call it old fashioned FUN | |||
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" If you are a married man/women playing with with your partners "permission" please pass us by. Would that include a swinging couple like us for example who also sometimes do solo meets, with the full permission of the other? Sometimes in fact if it's Rich doing the solo meet and the other fem is bi then maybe I will turn up after a few hours and join in the fun making it an FFM 3sum. That's not cheating surely, it's swinging isn't it? By anyone's definition. xxxxx Ju & Rich" Whilst we sincerely, and I do mean sincerely, do not doubt what you say with regards to your situation our original statement stands. We meet genuine couples and genuine single guys only as anything else is just way to potentially hazardous. | |||
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"I'm not interested in the cheating aspect of the thread, but the "Fuck Buddy" thing - and them not being "genuine" When do fuck buddies become genuine ? Two (genuine) singles, that fuck together a lot (but not exclusively), go to munches/socials/house parties but are under no illusion themselves, and do their best to not put others under any illusion about their "status" dammie" They are single so what ever they do and what ever they wish to call them selves it is perfectly acceptable. | |||
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"well chuffing hell alot of people look rather tall on their soap boxes from where am standing.....yeah lets have freedom of speech and all that. But also lets have a bit of understanding. People knock swinging when they dont know about it, so in a similar vein people are knocking others who are in a marriage...live and let live.....go with the flow.....as i said if you dont like it you dont fuck it. Learn that life is not always contained in a little box of your own morals. once again, it all goes down to personal choice, so why bang that drum about deceit when you dont broadcast to your family and friends and be open that your a swinger. there is deceit around every corner, if we all sit there and pick at stuff " As I said before OUR, and it is OUR deceit as WE do it TOGETHER will simply cause a few red faces and snigger's, what will yours cause? | |||
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""cheating isnt swinging" I agree with that! " Which is why most swingers want nothing to do with cheating | |||
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"I read these posts with some what bemusment surely it is naive to suggest that all married swingers are immune from cheating?There are couples we know have split up because one of them has decided to play behind the others back when the partner thought they were rock solid...it also depends on peoples perception of cheating a lot of people not involved in the lifestyle would auggest that having sex with other people with your partners consent is just wrong also..its about choice not morals..who is to say that because we choose to just share our bodies with other married couples that thats morally right?" Whoah Sexybi.....love it....couldnt have said it better. To the outside world swingers have no morals and to swingers people have adultery have no morals. Surely just a case of adultery with consent with some of the people on here.... All I say is freemdom of speech is all very well but its like that old adage, goes something like....let he with the first stone (may have got that one wrong...yikes!! but you get my meaning) | |||
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"I read these posts with some what bemusment surely it is naive to suggest that all married swingers are immune from cheating?There are couples we know have split up because one of them has decided to play behind the others back when the partner thought they were rock solid...it also depends on peoples perception of cheating a lot of people not involved in the lifestyle would auggest that having sex with other people with your partners consent is just wrong also..its about choice not morals..who is to say that because we choose to just share our bodies with other married couples that thats morally right? Whoah Sexybi.....love it....couldnt have said it better. To the outside world swingers have no morals and to swingers people have adultery have no morals. Surely just a case of adultery with consent with some of the people on here.... All I say is freemdom of speech is all very well but its like that old adage, goes something like....let he with the first stone (may have got that one wrong...yikes!! but you get my meaning)" Don't forget your beard! I will have two with points and a bag of gravel | |||
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"Would I be correct in saying that women have more of a problem with this than men? My opinion is that you are there to have sex with other people, so what should it matter that they are not married to each other or cheating on someone else? If it doesnt directly affect you and you do not know these people personally, why should you be bothered? Its their business etc. Now if they lie to you about it then that is wrong. Especially if you become friends etc." Well here here, stockingsman, well said. We are there to have fun with each other, not marry or procrastinate about morals. I am there to have fun and make friends, not scrutinise peoples morals. After all we have enough people who would scutinise the morals of swingers. right am putting my soapbox away in storage and will just read these threads now. Just that am in work and bored. How about that one for a new thread....is it deceitful being on a swingers site while in work....haha!!! | |||
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" Well here here, stockingsman, well said. We are there to have fun with each other, not marry or procrastinate about morals. I am there to have fun and make friends, not scrutinise peoples morals. After all we have enough people who would scutinise the morals of swingers. right am putting my soapbox away in storage and will just read these threads now. Just that am in work and bored. How about that one for a new thread....is it deceitful being on a swingers site while in work....haha!!!" just my two pence worth. taking a chance going on a swingers site at work are you not???! lol | |||
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"Just seen this thread amongst many in the archive...... How many are still on site and how many recognise your own comments from a few years ago" Not this, but when we first got together on here, almost a year ago, we were told by many couples we were not a real couple and he was using me (by a club where I wanted to know if I had to play to go). Well, our relationship is standing the test of time and going from strength to strength - we swing much less often now and are feathering the nest - a joint nest now. We had more trouble convincing many strangers on here and on the scene that we were for real than we did our friends and our children who saw how we were together every day ... now, its time to look back over the thread, as I was not contributing to the forums then. (Mrs - as Mr is downstairs decorating the kids room) | |||
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"Just seen this thread amongst many in the archive...... How many are still on site and how many recognise your own comments from a few years ago Not this, but when we first got together on here, almost a year ago, we were told by many couples we were not a real couple and he was using me (by a club where I wanted to know if I had to play to go). Well, our relationship is standing the test of time and going from strength to strength - we swing much less often now and are feathering the nest - a joint nest now. We had more trouble convincing many strangers on here and on the scene that we were for real than we did our friends and our children who saw how we were together every day ... now, its time to look back over the thread, as I was not contributing to the forums then. (Mrs - as Mr is downstairs decorating the kids room)" Good for you and congrats I met some one on here when I was on back in 2012...... We got on like a house on fire and became a full on couple after only 2weeks. We both deleted our profiles and cracked on together.... The first 12months was the best and most happiest time in my life so far...... But not long after being together 12 months we started to have problems as she was constantly insecure and paranioed jelouse possesive etc etc....... Another year went by with it's ups n downs.... ( more downs than ups if im honest ) then I realised I had to leave and get out whilst I was still sane ...... So I moved out and then started to move on with my life again Six months later I am now back on fab as a single lad..... Tho I will never say never again, I am reluctant this time around to get serious with any one else | |||
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""Get a life people - we're all entitled to our own opinions on any topic discussed and shouldn't be slated for voicing them!" Oh, the irony!!! (for those that don't get it!!!) Slating people for slating people!!! People who use the scene for cheating on their partners are NOT swingers! They are cheaters... As such, they have no place in our playtime!" Just looked at my post from last year and it stands now as it did then! It is the quote above... | |||
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"What I noticed is a lot of UNLOS....." Unless they are back on under new profiles but yeah I noticed the majority are no longer on site | |||
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"We never go with fuck buddies or swing buddies only ppl in long term relationships.Each of us are sharing the most precious thing in our lives,our partner.We expect the same commitment from those we meet.Not just a couple of relative strangers who've got together to raise their chances of getting a shag.That may sound harsh but its something we feel strongly about. Trace & Ric XXXX " How beautifully put we couldn't agree with you more x | |||
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