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"I'd just like to try a bit of cock one day and being dressed as a lady makes it more acceptable I suppose " Ha! You get first prize for the most honest answer in the history of fab 
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"I'd just like to try a bit of cock one day and being dressed as a lady makes it more acceptable I suppose " Haha, that's what hubby says x | |||
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"This issue all depends on a persons opinion/stance on gender identity as they're are still a lot of bigoted people in this world that just see it's as black and white as Cock=guy " I'm not a bigot and to me having a cock makes you a man. If someone with a cock identifies as a woman I will respect their wishes and call them whatever they wish and hold no judgement on how they want to live their lives. | |||
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"This issue all depends on a persons opinion/stance on gender identity as they're are still a lot of bigoted people in this world that just see it's as black and white as Cock=guy I'm not a bigot and to me having a cock makes you a man. If someone with a cock identifies as a woman I will respect their wishes and call them whatever they wish and hold no judgement on how they want to live their lives. " That's an oxymoron You can't say you want judge them on how their lives and respect theirs in same breath as saying they're still a man as they have a cock You clearly do judge them quite heavily as you judge them to be a man regardless | |||
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"This issue all depends on a persons opinion/stance on gender identity as they're are still a lot of bigoted people in this world that just see it's as black and white as Cock=guy I'm not a bigot and to me having a cock makes you a man. If someone with a cock identifies as a woman I will respect their wishes and call them whatever they wish and hold no judgement on how they want to live their lives. That's an oxymoron You can't say you want judge them on how their lives and respect theirs in same breath as saying they're still a man as they have a cock You clearly do judge them quite heavily as you judge them to be a man regardless " But it is a fact that there are genetic men and women. I am not talking about peoples identity. You can think I judge but it is not so. I am simply saying what I feel. How can I possibly be the judge on how anyone else feels? Live and let live I say. But I won't be told what to think by someone else. Just as T girls won't be told who to be! | |||
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"I'd just like to try a bit of cock one day and being dressed as a lady makes it more acceptable I suppose Ha! You get first prize for the most honest answer in the history of fab
x"I think he deserves a shag from a trans for that honesty. | |||
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"This issue all depends on a persons opinion/stance on gender identity as they're are still a lot of bigoted people in this world that just see it's as black and white as Cock=guy I'm not a bigot and to me having a cock makes you a man. If someone with a cock identifies as a woman I will respect their wishes and call them whatever they wish and hold no judgement on how they want to live their lives. That's an oxymoron You can't say you want judge them on how their lives and respect theirs in same breath as saying they're still a man as they have a cock You clearly do judge them quite heavily as you judge them to be a man regardless But it is a fact that there are genetic men and women. I am not talking about peoples identity. You can think I judge but it is not so. I am simply saying what I feel. How can I possibly be the judge on how anyone else feels? Live and let live I say. But I won't be told what to think by someone else. Just as T girls won't be told who to be!" Genetics are completely irrelevant to their identity, so it's cop out to use the "genetically I'm right" bollocks But it's fine it's and uneducated view most carry | |||
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"I'm a man and I find other men sexualy attractive, I love dressing as a woman, the feminine feeling is amazing. Put the two together and it's liberating and bloody good fun. But are straight men that get off on Tgirls just enjoying the naughty "it feels wrong but fun" factor?. "You identify man you are therefore are a transvestite who is pereceived to be a women and addressed as one only when dressed as one, so you aren't personally what I would refer to as a T-girl because you don't identify as a women, so the men that engage in sexual activity with you aren't straight. As I say it's a complex issue and depends where you stand on it | |||
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"I'm a man and I find other men sexualy attractive, I love dressing as a woman, the feminine feeling is amazing. Put the two together and it's liberating and bloody good fun. But are straight men that get off on Tgirls just enjoying the naughty "it feels wrong but fun" factor?.
You identify man you are therefore are a transvestite who is pereceived to be a women and addressed as one only when dressed as one, so you aren't personally what I would refer to as a T-girl because you don't identify as a women, so the men that engage in sexual activity with you aren't straight.
As I say it's a complex issue and depends where you stand on it "I suspect its nowhere near as difficult as you are making it sound either. | |||
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"I'm a man and I find other men sexualy attractive, I love dressing as a woman, the feminine feeling is amazing. Put the two together and it's liberating and bloody good fun. But are straight men that get off on Tgirls just enjoying the naughty "it feels wrong but fun" factor?.
You identify man you are therefore are a transvestite who is pereceived to be a women and addressed as one only when dressed as one, so you aren't personally what I would refer to as a T-girl because you don't identify as a women, so the men that engage in sexual activity with you aren't straight.
As I say it's a complex issue and depends where you stand on it "I think you need to learn the definition of the T in t girl He is a guy that likes to dress as a woman therefore is a transvestite or tgirl. If he identified as a woman he would be a transsexual or again a tgirl. There for he is and has every right to call himself a tgirl. T= transition and when he dresses as a girl he transitions from a guy to a girl aka tgirl | |||
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"I'm a man and I find other men sexualy attractive, I love dressing as a woman, the feminine feeling is amazing. Put the two together and it's liberating and bloody good fun. But are straight men that get off on Tgirls just enjoying the naughty "it feels wrong but fun" factor?.
You identify man you are therefore are a transvestite who is pereceived to be a women and addressed as one only when dressed as one, so you aren't personally what I would refer to as a T-girl because you don't identify as a women, so the men that engage in sexual activity with you aren't straight.
As I say it's a complex issue and depends where you stand on it
I think you need to learn the definition of the T in t girl
He is a guy that likes to dress as a woman therefore is a transvestite or tgirl. If he identified as a woman he would be a transsexual or again a tgirl.
There for he is and has every right to call himself a tgirl.
T= transition and when he dresses as a girl he transitions from a guy to a girl aka tgirl"That's all good and fine as I said dependson your personal stance on the subject. It's not black and white there numerous shades of grey. I see the T for transistion in someone that as chose to live full time as the gender they identify with, in relevance to this thread as a girl | |||
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"The OP is seeking opinions from straight men." And it's a valid point that it depends on how that straight guy views gender identity as to wether he's still considered straight | |||
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"Why do so many straight men FAB wink or message Tgirls? Are we a forbidden pleasure?... I'm not complaining as a love winks and messages but I am curious.. Xx" Because they are BI or at least Bi curios and not straight end of! | |||
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"Why do so many straight men FAB wink or message Tgirls? Are we a forbidden pleasure?... I'm not complaining as a love winks and messages but I am curious.. Xx Because they are BI or at least Bi curios and not straight end of!" Thank you - totally agree. | |||
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"I'm a man and I find other men sexualy attractive, I love dressing as a woman, the feminine feeling is amazing. Put the two together and it's liberating and bloody good fun. But are straight men that get off on Tgirls just enjoying the naughty "it feels wrong but fun" factor?.
You identify man you are therefore are a transvestite who is pereceived to be a women and addressed as one only when dressed as one, so you aren't personally what I would refer to as a T-girl because you don't identify as a women, so the men that engage in sexual activity with you aren't straight.
As I say it's a complex issue and depends where you stand on it
I think you need to learn the definition of the T in t girl
He is a guy that likes to dress as a woman therefore is a transvestite or tgirl. If he identified as a woman he would be a transsexual or again a tgirl.
There for he is and has every right to call himself a tgirl.
T= transition and when he dresses as a girl he transitions from a guy to a girl aka tgirl
That's all good and fine as I said dependson your personal stance on the subject. It's not black and white there numerous shades of grey.
I see the T for transistion in someone that as chose to live full time as the gender they identify with, in relevance to this thread as a girl "It isnt about how you or anyine else sees things. Its factual definition. Transexuality is a mental disorder that has been completely dumbed down by americans. Its a hard fight to feel you were born the wrong sex and it isnt a choice. Being a transvestite is a lifestyle choice and either way you are known in the LGBT as a tgirl. | |||
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"The OP is seeking opinions from straight men." Need to define straight men as lots identify as straight on sex sites to get their rocks off. | |||
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"Why do so many straight men FAB wink or message Tgirls? Are we a forbidden pleasure?... I'm not complaining as a love winks and messages but I am curious.. Xx" I'm a girl. They're a guy. Your problem with this is? | |||
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"I'm a man and I find other men sexualy attractive, I love dressing as a woman, the feminine feeling is amazing. Put the two together and it's liberating and bloody good fun. But are straight men that get off on Tgirls just enjoying the naughty "it feels wrong but fun" factor?.
You identify man you are therefore are a transvestite who is pereceived to be a women and addressed as one only when dressed as one, so you aren't personally what I would refer to as a T-girl because you don't identify as a women, so the men that engage in sexual activity with you aren't straight.
As I say it's a complex issue and depends where you stand on it
I think you need to learn the definition of the T in t girl
He is a guy that likes to dress as a woman therefore is a transvestite or tgirl. If he identified as a woman he would be a transsexual or again a tgirl.
There for he is and has every right to call himself a tgirl.
T= transition and when he dresses as a girl he transitions from a guy to a girl aka tgirl
That's all good and fine as I said dependson your personal stance on the subject. It's not black and white there numerous shades of grey.
I see the T for transistion in someone that as chose to live full time as the gender they identify with, in relevance to this thread as a girl
It isnt about how you or anyine else sees things.
Its factual definition. Transexuality is a mental disorder that has been completely dumbed down by americans. Its a hard fight to feel you were born the wrong sex and it isnt a choice.
Being a transvestite is a lifestyle choice and either way you are known in the LGBT as a tgirl. "It doesn't sit right with me to call transexualiry a mental disorder, that makes it sound like they're wrong for feeling how they do and it's an attitude that shouldn't exist | |||
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"I'm a man and I find other men sexualy attractive, I love dressing as a woman, the feminine feeling is amazing. Put the two together and it's liberating and bloody good fun. But are straight men that get off on Tgirls just enjoying the naughty "it feels wrong but fun" factor?.
You identify man you are therefore are a transvestite who is pereceived to be a women and addressed as one only when dressed as one, so you aren't personally what I would refer to as a T-girl because you don't identify as a women, so the men that engage in sexual activity with you aren't straight.
As I say it's a complex issue and depends where you stand on it
I think you need to learn the definition of the T in t girl
He is a guy that likes to dress as a woman therefore is a transvestite or tgirl. If he identified as a woman he would be a transsexual or again a tgirl.
There for he is and has every right to call himself a tgirl.
T= transition and when he dresses as a girl he transitions from a guy to a girl aka tgirl
That's all good and fine as I said dependson your personal stance on the subject. It's not black and white there numerous shades of grey.
I see the T for transistion in someone that as chose to live full time as the gender they identify with, in relevance to this thread as a girl
It isnt about how you or anyine else sees things.
Its factual definition. Transexuality is a mental disorder that has been completely dumbed down by americans. Its a hard fight to feel you were born the wrong sex and it isnt a choice.
Being a transvestite is a lifestyle choice and either way you are known in the LGBT as a tgirl.
It doesn't sit right with me to call transexualiry a mental disorder, that makes it sound like they're wrong for feeling how they do and it's an attitude that shouldn't exist "No it really doesn't sound like they are wrong in how they feel. Thats just your dum american mentality and that is what really shouldn't exist. | |||
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"This issue all depends on a persons opinion/stance on gender identity as they're are still a lot of bigoted people in this world that just see it's as black and white as Cock=guy" Why/how is that bigoted? Is fab bigoted for having a TS/TV gender for profiles instead of just seeing them as women? If a guy has a cock... well, I've already said it there haven't I... one second... If a person has a cock and balls.... You know what, forget it... I'm a lesbian with a cock... this has its benefits  | |||
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"I'm a man and I find other men sexualy attractive, I love dressing as a woman, the feminine feeling is amazing. Put the two together and it's liberating and bloody good fun. But are straight men that get off on Tgirls just enjoying the naughty "it feels wrong but fun" factor?.
You identify man you are therefore are a transvestite who is pereceived to be a women and addressed as one only when dressed as one, so you aren't personally what I would refer to as a T-girl because you don't identify as a women, so the men that engage in sexual activity with you aren't straight.
As I say it's a complex issue and depends where you stand on it
I think you need to learn the definition of the T in t girl
He is a guy that likes to dress as a woman therefore is a transvestite or tgirl. If he identified as a woman he would be a transsexual or again a tgirl.
There for he is and has every right to call himself a tgirl.
T= transition and when he dresses as a girl he transitions from a guy to a girl aka tgirl
That's all good and fine as I said dependson your personal stance on the subject. It's not black and white there numerous shades of grey.
I see the T for transistion in someone that as chose to live full time as the gender they identify with, in relevance to this thread as a girl
It isnt about how you or anyine else sees things.
Its factual definition. Transexuality is a mental disorder that has been completely dumbed down by americans. Its a hard fight to feel you were born the wrong sex and it isnt a choice.
Being a transvestite is a lifestyle choice and either way you are known in the LGBT as a tgirl.
It doesn't sit right with me to call transexualiry a mental disorder, that makes it sound like they're wrong for feeling how they do and it's an attitude that shouldn't exist
No it really doesn't sound like they are wrong in how they feel.
Thats just your dum american mentality and that is what really shouldn't exist. "Not sure how Americans think being a born and raised Yorkshire lass but if you say so that's your opinion and its cool by me | |||
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"There are three things guaranteed in life, death, taxes and in a thread that mentions either TV or TS in it's title someone will say if you like them you're not straight or of you've got a cock you're a man. Swingers are so conservative it hurts." I for one am far from conservative and I would think most on here are. | |||
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"Maybe it's the words 'straight' 'bi' or 'gay' that need re defining. People like sex,they like sex with people they are attracted to. Many factors can influence that attraction,not just the package between the thighs." Very well said. | |||
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"Mental disorder?... OMG "Yea I thought the same thing when I read that 
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"Trouble is the vast majority of T girls still look like a bloke in a dress and makeup. No disrespect, as I like to cross dress. But I am under no illusion that I could never pass as a woman.. even from 5 miles away on a foggy day. " The trouble is, many male to females we see in the media or on the streets are transvestites, not transgender females. Transgender females don't tend to wear crazy high heels and short skirts to go about our daily lives and so may pass you unnoticed. I wear flip flops or flats mostly and full length skirts. Occasionally leggings. Across the street I doubt many people can tell I'm trans and if I pass them on the same pavement, many won't notice because people simply don't look at people other than a quick glance. I know I won't pass much more than a quick glance or a foggy day from five miles away! There is little physical difference between girls and boys until puberty, apart from genitals. Once the hormones kick in the defining features we see as male and female develop. Many of those such as a deep voice or large hands, are hard to reverse without surgery. I'm not sure there actually is much you can do about the size of hands tbh. Hormones given to trans people have quite an effect but don't reverse puberty completely. F to m gain muscle mass. Grow body hair. Voices can drop. M to f grow breasts, lose muscle mass and fat redistributes around our bodies. This can change the shape of our face and hips if we're lucky. I know several m to f trans females who have had the 'op' who still look like guys in women's clothes. It's a real shame as people assume they are cross dressers and have been known to give them abuse for that. | |||
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"The 'T' in tgirl and LGBTQ stands for transgender not transvestite. Tgirl is short for trans girl. There are also lots of trans guys around. The 'T' in LGBTQ is to represent the transgender community as a whole. Trans guys and trans girls. " . The 'T' in me stands for 'Tyrannosaurus" | |||
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"The 'T' in tgirl and LGBTQ stands for transgender not transvestite. Tgirl is short for trans girl. There are also lots of trans guys around. The 'T' in LGBTQ is to represent the transgender community as a whole. Trans guys and trans girls. . The 'T' in me stands for 'Tyrannosaurus" "That's cos you're special x | |||
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"I meant no offence from what I posted. I have trans friends and I'm commentung based on my knowledge from them. One does consider himself to have a mental disorder but excepts it and doesnt want to change that. He socialises mostly as a woman. Another friend its a lifestyle choice as he enjoys the feel of wearing womens clothes. I also have gay friends tht work as drag queens. I do apologise if I caused any offence by my comment as none was intended " the one that considers themselves to have a mental disorder is their own self diagnosis.. the other sounds like CD/TV.. drag queens are performers and not necessarily Trans.. So you're basing your entire labelling of Trans people on three people that you know..... Gender dysphoria is the condition anyone should be reading up on If they are interested.. as mentioned transgender-ism or gender dysphoria is a chromosonal disorder and not a mental disorder. You go round telling people on forums they have a mental disorder, you shouldnt be surprised if they take offence... | |||
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"I meant no offence from what I posted. I have trans friends and I'm commentung based on my knowledge from them. One does consider himself to have a mental disorder but excepts it and doesnt want to change that. He socialises mostly as a woman. Another friend its a lifestyle choice as he enjoys the feel of wearing womens clothes. I also have gay friends tht work as drag queens. I do apologise if I caused any offence by my comment as none was intended " thats very good of you to apologise, although I'm not sure you caused offence. Not to me anyhow. Many people are misinformed or confused by trans issues and terminology. Myself included. I learn more everyday through talking to trans people and gender professionals/volunteers and from research. Like most people I'm still discovering myself and getting my head around this. Please assure your friend that they do not have a mental disorder. Any more than gay people do. Gone are the days when they locked us up in mental institutions to try to cure us with barbaric and crazy methods, thank goodness. | |||
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"I meant no offence from what I posted. I have trans friends and I'm commentung based on my knowledge from them. One does consider himself to have a mental disorder but excepts it and doesnt want to change that. He socialises mostly as a woman. Another friend its a lifestyle choice as he enjoys the feel of wearing womens clothes. I also have gay friends tht work as drag queens. I do apologise if I caused any offence by my comment as none was intended the one that considers themselves to have a mental disorder is their own self diagnosis.. the other sounds like CD/TV.. drag queens are performers and not necessarily Trans.. So you're basing your entire labelling of Trans people on three people that you know..... Gender dysphoria is the condition anyone should be reading up on If they are interested.. as mentioned transgender-ism or gender dysphoria is a chromosonal disorder and not a mental disorder. You go round telling people on forums they have a mental disorder, you shouldnt be surprised if they take offence... " I know more than 3 they were just ecamples | |||
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"Why do so many straight men FAB wink or message Tgirls? Are we a forbidden pleasure?... I'm not complaining as a love winks and messages but I am curious.. Xx" Because, most of the "straight men" are actually bi and not admitting it in their profile. | |||
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"All I know is guys say I'm hotter and prettier then their gf's, that's why they want me "Yep. I have had that aswell | |||
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"Yup I get it straight on profile but I would?...whatever you have in your knickers and may enhance the excitement !.so am I bi...I would never go with just a bloke tho..now thats honesty too" Yes very honest, and very much what I hear from most 'straight' guys that date with us Tgirls | |||
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What irritates us most of all is that those men are dishonest not only with themselves, but more importantly the FAB community. | |||
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"Why do so many straight men FAB wink or message Tgirls? Are we a forbidden pleasure?... I'm not complaining as a love winks and messages but I am curious.. Xx" I think it's we understand from a male point of view what makes a female sexy. We love wearing all the lovely satin, lace and nylon things that look and feel so nice. We love our make up, wearing sexy skirts or dresses, wearing high heels and just looking sexy to feel sexy. I love it anyway. XXX | |||
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"The best one is Trans claiming they are STRAIGHT .." So a trans who is only interested in the opposite sex is the best somehow? | |||
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"The best one is Trans claiming they are STRAIGHT .. So a trans who is only interested in the opposite sex is the best somehow? "Now you are really adding confusion into the mix. Who/what is the opposite sex for a trans?. | |||
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"The best one is Trans claiming they are STRAIGHT .. So a trans who is only interested in the opposite sex is the best somehow? "...I was saying that there is no such thing as a straight Tran ... | |||
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"The best one is Trans claiming they are STRAIGHT .. So a trans who is only interested in the opposite sex is the best somehow?
...I was saying that there is no such thing as a straight Tran ..."Gender and sexuality are not intrinsically linked. | |||
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"I'm a man and I find other men sexualy attractive, I love dressing as a woman, the feminine feeling is amazing. Put the two together and it's liberating and bloody good fun. But are straight men that get off on Tgirls just enjoying the naughty "it feels wrong but fun" factor?. "I don’t think it’s as simple as “just” this. Personally for me it’s something a bit different, a bit naughty but more than anything it’s a kink. Pretty girl, nice bum, boobs, lingerie... and a willy. Awesome! It’s as primal in my mind as that at least. As for labels, I’m trying to break down my use of them and in turn I’m trying not to over complicate what my own label is but to wrap a label around it for the purpose of lazy comparisons I’d say I’m fab straight but still haven’t experienced a guy guy scenario yet... maybe... at some point. But my first meet with a TV whilst a bit nerve racking to start was easier to jump in on than the idea of bi meet which I’m still heavily reserved about. | |||
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"Why do so many straight men FAB wink or message Tgirls? Are we a forbidden pleasure?... I'm not complaining as a love winks and messages but I am curious.. Xx" Because they are not straight. See this all the time at our parties. "straight" guys who end up balls deep with other guys or TVs | |||
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"Why do so many straight men FAB wink or message Tgirls? Are we a forbidden pleasure?... I'm not complaining as a love winks and messages but I am curious.. Xx Because they are not straight. See this all the time at our parties. "straight" guys who end up balls deep with other guys or TVs" They're just men who have sex with other men. They're not bi or gay they're just horny. | |||
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