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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all." We don't care if they are a married couple or just friends with benefits! | |||
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"Would like an answer to that too..many couples wont meet us as we are not a married couple what happens at clubs ..does the checklist come out or do they occassionally slip through x Storm x" Interesting question too... | |||
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"Does it matter? If it's a couple's profile then they are clearly meeting together" I don't think it should but it does, people say FWB, FB couples aren't as invested as a married couple x Storm x | |||
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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all." Passports and drivers license lol We're not fussed it's up to them what they decide to tell people | |||
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"They look at each other with disdain " Lmao | |||
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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all." It's Fab, you can't be certain of anything! On a more serious note, it would be fairly hard to fake being a 'proper' couple in a social setting, most people would catch you out within ten minutes of chatting. | |||
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"Does it matter? If it's a couple's profile then they are clearly meeting together I don't think it should but it does, people say FWB, FB couples aren't as invested as a married couple x Storm x " I think it's hornier meeting couples that aren't just fuck buddies. Reasons being mostly chemistry between them and seeing them enjoying each other with us. Also it's not two singles that might then pester for meets separately after. We don't have it as a prerequisite, but ideally (my - fem) choice is for proper partners | |||
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"Does it matter? If it's a couple's profile then they are clearly meeting together I don't think it should but it does, people say FWB, FB couples aren't as invested as a married couple x Storm x I think it's hornier meeting couples that aren't just fuck buddies. Reasons being mostly chemistry between them and seeing them enjoying each other with us. Also it's not two singles that might then pester for meets separately after. We don't have it as a prerequisite, but ideally (my - fem) choice is for proper partners " Personally I've had a whole load more chemistry with other men, than I had with a partner, so I would say that reason is floored. | |||
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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all. It's Fab, you can't be certain of anything! On a more serious note, it would be fairly hard to fake being a 'proper' couple in a social setting, most people would catch you out within ten minutes of chatting. " Really? People can be professional liars, it's so easy. | |||
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"Does it matter? If it's a couple's profile then they are clearly meeting together I don't think it should but it does, people say FWB, FB couples aren't as invested as a married couple x Storm x I think it's hornier meeting couples that aren't just fuck buddies. Reasons being mostly chemistry between them and seeing them enjoying each other with us. Also it's not two singles that might then pester for meets separately after. We don't have it as a prerequisite, but ideally (my - fem) choice is for proper partners Personally I've had a whole load more chemistry with other men, than I had with a partner, so I would say that reason is floored. " Surely that's more likely to suggest other people are better at picking partners than you, rather than flawed reasoning? It's fairly unusual to have a better connection with people you aren't in a relationship with than those you are, after all. | |||
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"Does it matter? If it's a couple's profile then they are clearly meeting together I don't think it should but it does, people say FWB, FB couples aren't as invested as a married couple x Storm x I think it's hornier meeting couples that aren't just fuck buddies. Reasons being mostly chemistry between them and seeing them enjoying each other with us. Also it's not two singles that might then pester for meets separately after. We don't have it as a prerequisite, but ideally (my - fem) choice is for proper partners Personally I've had a whole load more chemistry with other men, than I had with a partner, so I would say that reason is floored. " I would argue your personal experience isn't representative. Sharing someone you deeply love is, on average, requiring more emotions than sharing a fuck buddy. It's on the whole a nicer experience to be a part of. Also, if you prefer repeat meets with a couple then married people are less likely to break up in between meets. | |||
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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all. It's Fab, you can't be certain of anything! On a more serious note, it would be fairly hard to fake being a 'proper' couple in a social setting, most people would catch you out within ten minutes of chatting. Really? People can be professional liars, it's so easy." Yes, it's easy to lie as an individual. Play acting a believable relationship that would fool an average person for more than ten minutes would be very, very hard, on the other hand, without a lot of practice. Haven't you seen Green Card? | |||
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"Does it matter? If it's a couple's profile then they are clearly meeting together I don't think it should but it does, people say FWB, FB couples aren't as invested as a married couple x Storm x I think it's hornier meeting couples that aren't just fuck buddies. Reasons being mostly chemistry between them and seeing them enjoying each other with us. Also it's not two singles that might then pester for meets separately after. We don't have it as a prerequisite, but ideally (my - fem) choice is for proper partners Personally I've had a whole load more chemistry with other men, than I had with a partner, so I would say that reason is floored. I would argue your personal experience isn't representative. Sharing someone you deeply love is, on average, requiring more emotions than sharing a fuck buddy. It's on the whole a nicer experience to be a part of. Also, if you prefer repeat meets with a couple then married people are less likely to break up in between meets. " Yes wouldn't be interested in meeting FB couple A with fem 1 then fem 2 on another meet. That would be awkward. No not my cup of tea at all so my choice is my choice and is without flaws for me | |||
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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all. It's Fab, you can't be certain of anything! On a more serious note, it would be fairly hard to fake being a 'proper' couple in a social setting, most people would catch you out within ten minutes of chatting. Really? People can be professional liars, it's so easy. Yes, it's easy to lie as an individual. Play acting a believable relationship that would fool an average person for more than ten minutes would be very, very hard, on the other hand, without a lot of practice. Haven't you seen Green Card? " You've never pretended to be a couple then, as it's surprisingly easy. | |||
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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all. It's Fab, you can't be certain of anything! On a more serious note, it would be fairly hard to fake being a 'proper' couple in a social setting, most people would catch you out within ten minutes of chatting. Really? People can be professional liars, it's so easy. Yes, it's easy to lie as an individual. Play acting a believable relationship that would fool an average person for more than ten minutes would be very, very hard, on the other hand, without a lot of practice. Haven't you seen Green Card? You've never pretended to be a couple then, as it's surprisingly easy. " What were the circumstances where you pretended to be a couple? Who did you fool, and for how long? | |||
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"A lot of fb/ fwb 'couples' are actually 2 people both married to other people, aka cheating. They probably want to avoid those types." Recently experienced this, luckily twigged in time! | |||
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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all." We just show our matching, and very age worn, wedding rings... | |||
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"The Married couples are always arguing. Easy to spot. " No they're not! | |||
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"Nobody has ever asked us if we're a proper couple or not, not sure if that's because they don't care or it's really obvious we've been together years. We don't like to meet couples who aren't solid...doesn't matter if they're "proper" couples or not but if they don't have the sort of connection that makes swinging fun its not going to be a relaxed, enjoyable experience for us." Yes I would agree with this, it's about the connection. Also we like making friends not one offs, so we go out for food and drinks, we have a lot more in common with actual couples than with singles just joined. | |||
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"We're not married, but we've been together for 21 years, maybe it's 22 years, I can't remember haha, the wifey crashes my car, burns the dinner, farts, snores, can't park, and argues of the remote, but she's my life, I can't breathe without her, yeah we're a proper couple hahahaha " That is lovely | |||
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"I would be interested to hear from the couples who only will meet 'proper couples'. Where are you all?" (Nessarosa writing) We prefer "proper couples", married, long-term relationship or even long term dating. Reason is couples that are having affairs or just sex friends are 1. Harder to coordinate a meet with. 2. Are limited to areas and places were they won't be spotted. 3. We are not in the mood to have collateral drama in or life. This usually comes out before a social meet or at the social meet. We have had two meets that they did not want to be verified because they were "cheating" on a fab friend and another was thier boyfriend who was on fab....he would be jealous. No thanks, not worth the drama. Xxx | |||
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"I would be interested to hear from the couples who only will meet 'proper couples'. Where are you all? (Nessarosa writing) We prefer "proper couples", married, long-term relationship or even long term dating. Reason is couples that are having affairs or just sex friends are 1. Harder to coordinate a meet with. 2. Are limited to areas and places were they won't be spotted. 3. We are not in the mood to have collateral drama in or life. This usually comes out before a social meet or at the social meet. We have had two meets that they did not want to be verified because they were "cheating" on a fab friend and another was thier boyfriend who was on fab....he would be jealous. No thanks, not worth the drama. Xxx " Ok so how would you know? I mean what if they have been long term fwb that are married to other people? | |||
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"Thanks for the replies but a lot of people have said the reasons they won't meet 'FWB couples' etc. My question actually was how can you tell if people are a 'proper couple'? Showing wedding rings is no guarantee, nor is talking to people. If FWB's have been seeing each other a while they will know enough about each other to fool anyone." We have a circle of friends within the swing scene who we've partied with. There are a mixture of singles and couples. Some of the single often party with a FWB. But it's no big secret that they are not a proper couple. If we chat to a FWB couple at a party, it might come up in conversation. I guess if we had a rule that we only play with 'proper' couples then it might be difficult to tell the difference short of asking them. Mrs | |||
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"I would be interested to hear from the couples who only will meet 'proper couples'. Where are you all? (Nessarosa writing) We prefer "proper couples", married, long-term relationship or even long term dating. Reason is couples that are having affairs or just sex friends are 1. Harder to coordinate a meet with. 2. Are limited to areas and places were they won't be spotted. 3. We are not in the mood to have collateral drama in or life. This usually comes out before a social meet or at the social meet. We have had two meets that they did not want to be verified because they were "cheating" on a fab friend and another was thier boyfriend who was on fab....he would be jealous. No thanks, not worth the drama. Xxx Ok so how would you know? I mean what if they have been long term fwb that are married to other people?" (Nessarosa writing) Most couples are pretty honest as to their relationship status. There are also certain symptoms in profile, photos and messages. When in doubt we ask strait out. If we are not happy, we politely declined and wish them well. In the end, sex is an intimate form of communication.... if we don't feel comfortable then we are not going to get intimate. Xxx | |||
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"I think "convenience" couples are as easy to spot as the none "singles." " How? | |||
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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all." We are quite happy with all combinations of couples but draw the line where the couples are FBs where one or both are playing without their partner's knowledge. We don't want to be stuck in the middle of a domestic. Some people are quite open about playing without partner's knowledge on their profile. | |||
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"I think "convenience" couples are as easy to spot as the none "singles." How?" Don't host, ignored calls on meets, no "back story" when you chat...need I go on? | |||
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"Thanks for the replies but a lot of people have said the reasons they won't meet 'FWB couples' etc. My question actually was how can you tell if people are a 'proper couple'? Showing wedding rings is no guarantee, nor is talking to people. If FWB's have been seeing each other a while they will know enough about each other to fool anyone." Because most people aren't able to lie convincingly. If you're asking, is it possible someone could fool you into thinking they are a proper couple - yes. Is it probable - no. | |||
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"I think "convenience" couples are as easy to spot as the none "singles." How? Don't host, ignored calls on meets, no "back story" when you chat...need I go on?" Many people don't host because of children at home. You take calls when you're on a meet? Personally I would find that bad mannered. | |||
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"Thanks for the replies but a lot of people have said the reasons they won't meet 'FWB couples' etc. My question actually was how can you tell if people are a 'proper couple'? Showing wedding rings is no guarantee, nor is talking to people. If FWB's have been seeing each other a while they will know enough about each other to fool anyone. Because most people aren't able to lie convincingly. If you're asking, is it possible someone could fool you into thinking they are a proper couple - yes. Is it probable - no. " I disagree, people who are well practiced could convince anyone. | |||
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"Thanks for the replies but a lot of people have said the reasons they won't meet 'FWB couples' etc. My question actually was how can you tell if people are a 'proper couple'? Showing wedding rings is no guarantee, nor is talking to people. If FWB's have been seeing each other a while they will know enough about each other to fool anyone. Because most people aren't able to lie convincingly. If you're asking, is it possible someone could fool you into thinking they are a proper couple - yes. Is it probable - no. I disagree, people who are well practiced could convince anyone." In theory, not in practice. The competence of people in any activity is not simply a matter of practice. Most people don't have the inclination, ability or potential to lie particularly well. I think it's more the case that most people don't bother to research how to detect lies and instead go on 'gut feel' or pop psychology about the eyes looking up and left As an analogy, even though a strike and a goal keeper are both professional footballers; the penalty situation massively favours the striker. Likewise in lying, if you have someone very versed in lying and someone trained in detecting, It's still much easier to spot a lie than it is to pull it off. | |||
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"Thanks for the replies but a lot of people have said the reasons they won't meet 'FWB couples' etc. My question actually was how can you tell if people are a 'proper couple'? Showing wedding rings is no guarantee, nor is talking to people. If FWB's have been seeing each other a while they will know enough about each other to fool anyone. Because most people aren't able to lie convincingly. If you're asking, is it possible someone could fool you into thinking they are a proper couple - yes. Is it probable - no. I disagree, people who are well practiced could convince anyone. In theory, not in practice. The competence of people in any activity is not simply a matter of practice. Most people don't have the inclination, ability or potential to lie particularly well. I think it's more the case that most people don't bother to research how to detect lies and instead go on 'gut feel' or pop psychology about the eyes looking up and left As an analogy, even though a strike and a goal keeper are both professional footballers; the penalty situation massively favours the striker. Likewise in lying, if you have someone very versed in lying and someone trained in detecting, It's still much easier to spot a lie than it is to pull it off. " We shall agree to disagree | |||
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"Thanks for the replies but a lot of people have said the reasons they won't meet 'FWB couples' etc. My question actually was how can you tell if people are a 'proper couple'? Showing wedding rings is no guarantee, nor is talking to people. If FWB's have been seeing each other a while they will know enough about each other to fool anyone. Because most people aren't able to lie convincingly. If you're asking, is it possible someone could fool you into thinking they are a proper couple - yes. Is it probable - no. I disagree, people who are well practiced could convince anyone. In theory, not in practice. The competence of people in any activity is not simply a matter of practice. Most people don't have the inclination, ability or potential to lie particularly well. I think it's more the case that most people don't bother to research how to detect lies and instead go on 'gut feel' or pop psychology about the eyes looking up and left As an analogy, even though a strike and a goal keeper are both professional footballers; the penalty situation massively favours the striker. Likewise in lying, if you have someone very versed in lying and someone trained in detecting, It's still much easier to spot a lie than it is to pull it off. We shall agree to disagree " As you wish, but have you researched the subject? If so, who were your main sources that influenced your opinion? | |||
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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all. We are quite happy with all combinations of couples but draw the line where the couples are FBs where one or both are playing without their partner's knowledge. We don't want to be stuck in the middle of a domestic. Some people are quite open about playing without partner's knowledge on their profile." Same,the couples we meet on here are good friends too who we go for meals/drinks with and go to their homes. If we were ever unsure we wouldnt meet them and have turned couples down who admitted they were married to others. Miss | |||
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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all. We are quite happy with all combinations of couples but draw the line where the couples are FBs where one or both are playing without their partner's knowledge. We don't want to be stuck in the middle of a domestic. Some people are quite open about playing without partner's knowledge on their profile. Same,the couples we meet on here are good friends too who we go for meals/drinks with and go to their homes. If we were ever unsure we wouldnt meet them and have turned couples down who admitted they were married to others. Miss" | |||
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"I think "convenience" couples are as easy to spot as the none "singles." How? Don't host, ignored calls on meets, no "back story" when you chat...need I go on? Many people don't host because of children at home. You take calls when you're on a meet? Personally I would find that bad mannered." We both have children at home and as for calls agree rude..my kids have a code if they need me urgently any one else can wait . | |||
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"Thanks for the replies but a lot of people have said the reasons they won't meet 'FWB couples' etc. My question actually was how can you tell if people are a 'proper couple'? Showing wedding rings is no guarantee, nor is talking to people. If FWB's have been seeing each other a while they will know enough about each other to fool anyone. Because most people aren't able to lie convincingly. If you're asking, is it possible someone could fool you into thinking they are a proper couple - yes. Is it probable - no. I disagree, people who are well practiced could convince anyone. In theory, not in practice. The competence of people in any activity is not simply a matter of practice. Most people don't have the inclination, ability or potential to lie particularly well. I think it's more the case that most people don't bother to research how to detect lies and instead go on 'gut feel' or pop psychology about the eyes looking up and left As an analogy, even though a strike and a goal keeper are both professional footballers; the penalty situation massively favours the striker. Likewise in lying, if you have someone very versed in lying and someone trained in detecting, It's still much easier to spot a lie than it is to pull it off. We shall agree to disagree As you wish, but have you researched the subject? If so, who were your main sources that influenced your opinion? " I haven't carried out a questionnaire in the street, no lol | |||
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"I've found it almost impossible to meet a couple with my fwb, we've tried half a dozen times now but still haven't managed it. We are open about not being a "proper couple" but do wonder if we weren't would we have more luck." We'd be over the moon if you and a lady friend were willing to meet us. I mean hot single guy with a female companion. We'd think we'd died and gone to heaven! Mrs | |||
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"Why would a FWB couple feel the need to lie or pretend they are anything else? " To get meets, obviously. | |||
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"Why would a FWB couple feel the need to lie or pretend they are anything else? To get meets, obviously." Obviously? Why obviously? Can't the get meets without pretending? | |||
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"Thanks for the replies but a lot of people have said the reasons they won't meet 'FWB couples' etc. My question actually was how can you tell if people are a 'proper couple'? Showing wedding rings is no guarantee, nor is talking to people. If FWB's have been seeing each other a while they will know enough about each other to fool anyone. Because most people aren't able to lie convincingly. If you're asking, is it possible someone could fool you into thinking they are a proper couple - yes. Is it probable - no. I disagree, people who are well practiced could convince anyone. In theory, not in practice. The competence of people in any activity is not simply a matter of practice. Most people don't have the inclination, ability or potential to lie particularly well. I think it's more the case that most people don't bother to research how to detect lies and instead go on 'gut feel' or pop psychology about the eyes looking up and left As an analogy, even though a strike and a goal keeper are both professional footballers; the penalty situation massively favours the striker. Likewise in lying, if you have someone very versed in lying and someone trained in detecting, It's still much easier to spot a lie than it is to pull it off. We shall agree to disagree As you wish, but have you researched the subject? If so, who were your main sources that influenced your opinion? I haven't carried out a questionnaire in the street, no lol" I'm talking about lying, there is a science to what makes a good lie and how to spot bad ones. No surveys or questionnaires required, just read the high quality research, not the pop psychology | |||
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"The Married couples are always arguing. Easy to spot. " Yep non married couples always look happy together! | |||
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"A lot of people on here will only meet 'proper couples', and I respect their decision. What I'm wondering though is how can anyone be certain that 2 people are a 'proper couple', as it's so easy to lie and pretend. Do they ask to see a marriage certificate before play? Just curious, that's all." For us, it's about the chemistry. We don't make an issue about being a "propper" couple, but if we have a social and there's no chemistry between them then we're unlikely to meet them again. Cal | |||
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"Why would a FWB couple feel the need to lie or pretend they are anything else? To get meets, obviously. Obviously? Why obviously? Can't the get meets without pretending? " Exactly that. So many people won't meet FB couples. | |||
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"I've found it almost impossible to meet a couple with my fwb, we've tried half a dozen times now but still haven't managed it. We are open about not being a "proper couple" but do wonder if we weren't would we have more luck." I apply the same theory here, that I do to guys that lie about their sexuality. Just carry on being your honest selves. Always smacks of desperation and low standards, folk that feel the need to lie to get a fuck. | |||
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"Why would a FWB couple feel the need to lie or pretend they are anything else? To get meets, obviously. Obviously? Why obviously? Can't the get meets without pretending? Exactly that. So many people won't meet FB couples." So FB couples will pretend, lie and cheat to meet and have sex with others, under false pretences? | |||
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"Why would a FWB couple feel the need to lie or pretend they are anything else? To get meets, obviously. Obviously? Why obviously? Can't the get meets without pretending? Exactly that. So many people won't meet FB couples. So FB couples will pretend, lie and cheat to meet and have sex with others, under false pretences?" Seems a little bit self centred to do that, as well as a sense of entitlement combined little regard to respect to others involved to serve their own desires. Maybe that's the give away on how genuine couples spot them? Maybe that's why some genuine couples prefer not to play with them? | |||
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"Why would a FWB couple feel the need to lie or pretend they are anything else? To get meets, obviously. Obviously? Why obviously? Can't the get meets without pretending? Exactly that. So many people won't meet FB couples. So FB couples will pretend, lie and cheat to meet and have sex with others, under false pretences?" No we wont x Storm x | |||
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"Why would a FWB couple feel the need to lie or pretend they are anything else? To get meets, obviously. Obviously? Why obviously? Can't the get meets without pretending? Exactly that. So many people won't meet FB couples. So FB couples will pretend, lie and cheat to meet and have sex with others, under false pretences? No we wont x Storm x" I'm pretty certain more FB couples wont lie or pretend, than will. The point I'm getting at is those that will lie about it are likely to be easier spotted due to the associated flaws that are likely to raise their ugly heads. | |||
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"Why would a FWB couple feel the need to lie or pretend they are anything else? To get meets, obviously. Obviously? Why obviously? Can't the get meets without pretending? Exactly that. So many people won't meet FB couples. So FB couples will pretend, lie and cheat to meet and have sex with others, under false pretences? Don't so shocked that people lie, I have met quite a few couples who admit afterwards. It's more common than you think." Not shocked at all, it's just something we have rarely come across, but when we have, they have been very easily spotted, they have plenty of "tells" | |||
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"I could be mistaken, but the whole thread comes across as the OP enjoys lying to couples about her relationship status. How do you come to that conclusion when I'm a single fem? Because you keep on insinuating what a good liar you are and how you could easily decieve a couple. Thank you for your contribution to this thread but I havent said anything like that at all. You have it all wrong, don't presume and jump to wrong conclusions. Please do not make this personal towards me, this is a public forum and I'm simply asking a question that I'm curious about. So you haven't said anything like "People can be professional liars, it's so easy." That sounds like you know how easy lying is, because you have done it yourself. Everyone lies, fact. People can be very good, fact. Have you not told children about Santa Claus before? Think about it logically, lying can be easy, everyone knows that. I dont You've just lied there Nope." Lol ok | |||
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"I could be mistaken, but the whole thread comes across as the OP enjoys lying to couples about her relationship status. How do you come to that conclusion when I'm a single fem? Because you keep on insinuating what a good liar you are and how you could easily decieve a couple. Thank you for your contribution to this thread but I havent said anything like that at all. You have it all wrong, don't presume and jump to wrong conclusions. Please do not make this personal towards me, this is a public forum and I'm simply asking a question that I'm curious about. So you haven't said anything like "People can be professional liars, it's so easy." That sounds like you know how easy lying is, because you have done it yourself. Everyone lies, fact. People can be very good, fact. Have you not told children about Santa Claus before? Think about it logically, lying can be easy, everyone knows that. Most people aren't very good. Fact. So all the parents who tell their children about Santa don't manage to keep up the pretence for the few years that their children are little? Really? Lol" So your standard for lying convincingly is whether a child believes it or not That explains your earlier responses anyway. | |||
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"I could be mistaken, but the whole thread comes across as the OP enjoys lying to couples about her relationship status. How do you come to that conclusion when I'm a single fem? Because you keep on insinuating what a good liar you are and how you could easily decieve a couple. Thank you for your contribution to this thread but I havent said anything like that at all. You have it all wrong, don't presume and jump to wrong conclusions. Please do not make this personal towards me, this is a public forum and I'm simply asking a question that I'm curious about. So you haven't said anything like "People can be professional liars, it's so easy." That sounds like you know how easy lying is, because you have done it yourself. Everyone lies, fact. People can be very good, fact. Have you not told children about Santa Claus before? Think about it logically, lying can be easy, everyone knows that. Most people aren't very good. Fact. So all the parents who tell their children about Santa don't manage to keep up the pretence for the few years that their children are little? Really? Lol So your standard for lying convincingly is whether a child believes it or not That explains your earlier responses anyway. " | |||
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"This has become a very strange thread, and somewhat gone off on a different tangent, and not many have answered my actual question. Hey ho, joys of the forums. I'll now leave it be as its obvious there isn't an answer that can guarantee a couple is a 'proper couple'. Thanks guys for all your input " If you understand physics then you'll know there's no guarantee the sun will rise tomorrow. These kind of questions can only been answered in terms of probability, but you weren't willing to intellectual engage with the subject matter and now you throw your toys out the pram. | |||
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"This has become a very strange thread, and somewhat gone off on a different tangent, and not many have answered my actual question. Hey ho, joys of the forums. I'll now leave it be as its obvious there isn't an answer that can guarantee a couple is a 'proper couple'. Thanks guys for all your input If you understand physics then you'll know there's no guarantee the sun will rise tomorrow. These kind of questions can only been answered in terms of probability, but you weren't willing to intellectual engage with the subject matter and now you throw your toys out the pram. " Personal attacks are so becoming, and says more about you than it does me. | |||
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"This has become a very strange thread, and somewhat gone off on a different tangent, and not many have answered my actual question. Hey ho, joys of the forums. I'll now leave it be as its obvious there isn't an answer that can guarantee a couple is a 'proper couple'. Thanks guys for all your input If you understand physics then you'll know there's no guarantee the sun will rise tomorrow. These kind of questions can only been answered in terms of probability, but you weren't willing to intellectual engage with the subject matter and now you throw your toys out the pram. Personal attacks are so becoming, and says more about you than it does me." Crying wolf about non-existant personal attacks just proves my point further. You asked a question that can't possibly have an answer. Feel free to try and use logic and facts to prove me wrong but the only person making things personal is you. | |||
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"This has become a very strange thread, and somewhat gone off on a different tangent, and not many have answered my actual question. Hey ho, joys of the forums. I'll now leave it be as its obvious there isn't an answer that can guarantee a couple is a 'proper couple'. Thanks guys for all your input If you understand physics then you'll know there's no guarantee the sun will rise tomorrow. These kind of questions can only been answered in terms of probability, but you weren't willing to intellectual engage with the subject matter and now you throw your toys out the pram. Personal attacks are so becoming, and says more about you than it does me. Crying wolf about non-existant personal attacks just proves my point further. You asked a question that can't possibly have an answer. Feel free to try and use logic and facts to prove me wrong but the only person making things personal is you. " Re read your above posts. You blatantly are talking about me, making this thread personal to me. I'm leaving it there as I can't be bothered anymore with your attitude. Have a nice night. | |||
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"This has become a very strange thread, and somewhat gone off on a different tangent, and not many have answered my actual question. Hey ho, joys of the forums. I'll now leave it be as its obvious there isn't an answer that can guarantee a couple is a 'proper couple'. Thanks guys for all your input If you understand physics then you'll know there's no guarantee the sun will rise tomorrow. These kind of questions can only been answered in terms of probability, but you weren't willing to intellectual engage with the subject matter and now you throw your toys out the pram. Personal attacks are so becoming, and says more about you than it does me. Crying wolf about non-existant personal attacks just proves my point further. You asked a question that can't possibly have an answer. Feel free to try and use logic and facts to prove me wrong but the only person making things personal is you. Re read your above posts. You blatantly are talking about me, making this thread personal to me. I'm leaving it there as I can't be bothered anymore with your attitude. Have a nice night." Of course I'm talking about you, that's why i quoted you! That doesn't make it a personal attack. I'm challenging your logic not your character. You've completely misused the term personal attack. | |||
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"This has become a very strange thread, and somewhat gone off on a different tangent, and not many have answered my actual question. Hey ho, joys of the forums. I'll now leave it be as its obvious there isn't an answer that can guarantee a couple is a 'proper couple'. Thanks guys for all your input " There are many things in life you can't 'guarantee' 100% but as others have pointed out, certainly in respect of the question you asked, you can greatly reduce the chance of being duped by a couple who deliberately set out to lie about their situation. | |||
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"Lying, pretending, deceiving, or honest, there are generally certain traits, tells, body language etc within the dynamic of an FB couple that present themselves fairly plainly. " | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol " Yes we thought this was a non judgemental site! | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol " I don't see it as having anything to do with insecurity. I'll repeat what I posted on another thread about this a few days ago: 'We don't swap but I'd imagine for many couples in a long term relationship who do they'd want to do so with a couple who have a similar connection. There's something about sharing a partner you have a strong emotional bond with and doing it with another couple who don't feel the same way and are only together for sex just isn't the same. In a sense the sharing part is rather unbalanced.' | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol Yes we thought this was a non judgemental site! " Would love to find a non judgemental couple xStorm x | |||
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" Yes we thought this was a non judgemental site! " Everyone is judgemental, whether we recognise it or not. It's a natural human trait. For example, your profile states you are looking for people who are educated, this is judgemental. | |||
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" Yes we thought this was a non judgemental site! Everyone is judgemental, whether we recognise it or not. It's a natural human trait. For example, your profile states you are looking for people who are educated, this is judgemental." Mic drop | |||
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" Yes we thought this was a non judgemental site! Everyone is judgemental, whether we recognise it or not. It's a natural human trait. For example, your profile states you are looking for people who are educated, this is judgemental." It's the ability to impulsively judge, internalise that judgement and then make a more considered decision that appeals to me and my Fwb. If people judge purely on 1st instinct, yes they may be right in their first assessment but we've discovered that putting that judgement aside can reveal the best hidden treasures in friends. | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol " We don't play with FB's purely due to the fact that from experiences, not one meet with FB couples has been as fun or as pleasurable as meets with genuine couples. An FB couple is often an arrangement made purely for the individuals own selfish reasons for pleasure and enjoyment, and therefore, often results in selfish methods of playing, the emotional/physical connection between the two isn't any where near the same, the balance, the mutual care for each other, and the dynamic is entirely false and awkward, and most often very plain to see and feel. I'm not saying that every genuine couple aren't as described above, because there are easily plenty of them we've come across too. Either way, they're lying to themselves and about the reasons they swing, and that often emenates from such couples in a variety of ways and means, and for us, best avoided. Not at all due to any insecurities we may harbour. | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol We don't play with FB's purely due to the fact that from experiences, not one meet with FB couples has been as fun or as pleasurable as meets with genuine couples. An FB couple is often an arrangement made purely for the individuals own selfish reasons for pleasure and enjoyment, and therefore, often results in selfish methods of playing, the emotional/physical connection between the two isn't any where near the same, the balance, the mutual care for each other, and the dynamic is entirely false and awkward, and most often very plain to see and feel. I'm not saying that every genuine couple aren't as described above, because there are easily plenty of them we've come across too. Either way, they're lying to themselves and about the reasons they swing, and that often emenates from such couples in a variety of ways and means, and for us, best avoided. Not at all due to any insecurities we may harbour. " Again not all of us.. our relationship is a very close one and we arent in it for selfish reasons and no way false or arkward ..but at the end of the day its up to each individual who you play with and we cant all be the same what a weird world that would be ..so happy fabbing to all .Storm x | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol " Having a preference on what kind of people we meet does not equal insecurity. The potential for fuck buddies to pester on their own comment, that I made earlier in the thread was about me not requiring "Fab drama", not because I'm worried a woman or man might try and get off with Sir on his own. Nothing wrong with being selective and having preferences. | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol We don't play with FB's purely due to the fact that from experiences, not one meet with FB couples has been as fun or as pleasurable as meets with genuine couples. An FB couple is often an arrangement made purely for the individuals own selfish reasons for pleasure and enjoyment, and therefore, often results in selfish methods of playing, the emotional/physical connection between the two isn't any where near the same, the balance, the mutual care for each other, and the dynamic is entirely false and awkward, and most often very plain to see and feel. I'm not saying that every genuine couple aren't as described above, because there are easily plenty of them we've come across too. Either way, they're lying to themselves and about the reasons they swing, and that often emenates from such couples in a variety of ways and means, and for us, best avoided. Not at all due to any insecurities we may harbour. Again not all of us.. our relationship is a very close one and we arent in it for selfish reasons and no way false or arkward ..but at the end of the day its up to each individual who you play with and we cant all be the same what a weird world that would be ..so happy fabbing to all .Storm x" I did say "often" meaning we know there are exceptions May I ask. Why are you in a FB arrangement, and why do you then swing as part of that arrangement? | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol Having a preference on what kind of people we meet does not equal insecurity. The potential for fuck buddies to pester on their own comment, that I made earlier in the thread was about me not requiring "Fab drama", not because I'm worried a woman or man might try and get off with Sir on his own. Nothing wrong with being selective and having preferences. " There is on FAB | |||
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" Many people don't host because of children at home. You take calls when you're on a meet? Personally I would find that bad mannered." True, some don't but thhen when you meet they talk about the kids and have shared stories, for example about how their teenager suspects they swing etc. I've never taken a call on a meet, but there again as a single, I can switch my phone off! Cheaters rarely if ever do as it's a "tell," where as a rejected call followed by a text about being in a meeting seems to be regarded as a way of allaying suspicion. | |||
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"I think it's very obvious when we meet couples, we like to meet for food, drinks, have a chat, usually girls whinge about guys not taking the bins out, or we moan about kids not finding jeans you know you have washed, and that's how you know they are genuine x Do you get time for sex with your friends after all that socialising! " Usually no! Haha so another date has to be sorted, but then it's not very often we don't keep long friendships with people so plenty of opportunity for fun | |||
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"I think it's very obvious when we meet couples, we like to meet for food, drinks, have a chat, usually girls whinge about guys not taking the bins out, or we moan about kids not finding jeans you know you have washed, and that's how you know they are genuine x You sound like us, after chatting, laughing,joking, eating too much, solving world problems, the time flies because you've all got along so well, then when it's time to leave, you've actually forgot why you were there in the first place, that's when you know your a proper couple haha. Then when you get home, the teenagers stand there, arms folded, and preach, your the only couple that goes to the cinema for 5 hours, to watch a 2 hour film hahahaha " Haha very much like us then! | |||
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"I think it's very obvious when we meet couples, we like to meet for food, drinks, have a chat, usually girls whinge about guys not taking the bins out, or we moan about kids not finding jeans you know you have washed, and that's how you know they are genuine x Do you get time for sex with your friends after all that socialising! Usually no! Haha so another date has to be sorted, but then it's not very often we don't keep long friendships with people so plenty of opportunity for fun " We like your approach btw X | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol We don't play with FB's purely due to the fact that from experiences, not one meet with FB couples has been as fun or as pleasurable as meets with genuine couples. An FB couple is often an arrangement made purely for the individuals own selfish reasons for pleasure and enjoyment, and therefore, often results in selfish methods of playing, the emotional/physical connection between the two isn't any where near the same, the balance, the mutual care for each other, and the dynamic is entirely false and awkward, and most often very plain to see and feel. I'm not saying that every genuine couple aren't as described above, because there are easily plenty of them we've come across too. Either way, they're lying to themselves and about the reasons they swing, and that often emenates from such couples in a variety of ways and means, and for us, best avoided. Not at all due to any insecurities we may harbour. Again not all of us.. our relationship is a very close one and we arent in it for selfish reasons and no way false or arkward ..but at the end of the day its up to each individual who you play with and we cant all be the same what a weird world that would be ..so happy fabbing to all .Storm x I did say "often" meaning we know there are exceptions May I ask. Why are you in a FB arrangement, and why do you then swing as part of that arrangement? " Exceptions to all rules ..I was on here as a single lady and I met Si on a meet, I had a 20yr old vanilla crap marriage and when I came out of it I knew I had another side to me and Si and I became fwb and I wanted to explore that side of me, we don't play as singles we are a couple just not living together , we are very close we enjoy the social side of our relationship too. The reason we have a swinging side is simple we like it I have found a side to me that was always kept hidden , I love to watch be watched and seeing us both enjoying this lifestyle is amazing x Storm x | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol We don't play with FB's purely due to the fact that from experiences, not one meet with FB couples has been as fun or as pleasurable as meets with genuine couples. An FB couple is often an arrangement made purely for the individuals own selfish reasons for pleasure and enjoyment, and therefore, often results in selfish methods of playing, the emotional/physical connection between the two isn't any where near the same, the balance, the mutual care for each other, and the dynamic is entirely false and awkward, and most often very plain to see and feel. I'm not saying that every genuine couple aren't as described above, because there are easily plenty of them we've come across too. Either way, they're lying to themselves and about the reasons they swing, and that often emenates from such couples in a variety of ways and means, and for us, best avoided. Not at all due to any insecurities we may harbour. Again not all of us.. our relationship is a very close one and we arent in it for selfish reasons and no way false or arkward ..but at the end of the day its up to each individual who you play with and we cant all be the same what a weird world that would be ..so happy fabbing to all .Storm x I did say "often" meaning we know there are exceptions May I ask. Why are you in a FB arrangement, and why do you then swing as part of that arrangement? Exceptions to all rules ..I was on here as a single lady and I met Si on a meet, I had a 20yr old vanilla crap marriage and when I came out of it I knew I had another side to me and Si and I became fwb and I wanted to explore that side of me, we don't play as singles we are a couple just not living together , we are very close we enjoy the social side of our relationship too. The reason we have a swinging side is simple we like it I have found a side to me that was always kept hidden , I love to watch be watched and seeing us both enjoying this lifestyle is amazing x Storm x " Thanks for replying so honestly and sincerely. Yours contradicts my beliefs (and experience) of FB arrangements being one of self serving arrangement only | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol We don't play with FB's purely due to the fact that from experiences, not one meet with FB couples has been as fun or as pleasurable as meets with genuine couples. An FB couple is often an arrangement made purely for the individuals own selfish reasons for pleasure and enjoyment, and therefore, often results in selfish methods of playing, the emotional/physical connection between the two isn't any where near the same, the balance, the mutual care for each other, and the dynamic is entirely false and awkward, and most often very plain to see and feel. I'm not saying that every genuine couple aren't as described above, because there are easily plenty of them we've come across too. Either way, they're lying to themselves and about the reasons they swing, and that often emenates from such couples in a variety of ways and means, and for us, best avoided. Not at all due to any insecurities we may harbour. Again not all of us.. our relationship is a very close one and we arent in it for selfish reasons and no way false or arkward ..but at the end of the day its up to each individual who you play with and we cant all be the same what a weird world that would be ..so happy fabbing to all .Storm x I did say "often" meaning we know there are exceptions May I ask. Why are you in a FB arrangement, and why do you then swing as part of that arrangement? Exceptions to all rules ..I was on here as a single lady and I met Si on a meet, I had a 20yr old vanilla crap marriage and when I came out of it I knew I had another side to me and Si and I became fwb and I wanted to explore that side of me, we don't play as singles we are a couple just not living together , we are very close we enjoy the social side of our relationship too. The reason we have a swinging side is simple we like it I have found a side to me that was always kept hidden , I love to watch be watched and seeing us both enjoying this lifestyle is amazing x Storm x " Thanks for replying so honestly and sincerely. Yours contradicts my beliefs (and experience) of FB arrangements being one of self serving arrangement only | |||
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"Mmmm if you ask me those who only want proper couples or married only must be insecure in some way? If they are married psychologically you tell yourself they are less likely to cheat. We don't care, married,FB's just meet together? if we all get on and we all like each other then all in. lol We don't play with FB's purely due to the fact that from experiences, not one meet with FB couples has been as fun or as pleasurable as meets with genuine couples. An FB couple is often an arrangement made purely for the individuals own selfish reasons for pleasure and enjoyment, and therefore, often results in selfish methods of playing, the emotional/physical connection between the two isn't any where near the same, the balance, the mutual care for each other, and the dynamic is entirely false and awkward, and most often very plain to see and feel. I'm not saying that every genuine couple aren't as described above, because there are easily plenty of them we've come across too. Either way, they're lying to themselves and about the reasons they swing, and that often emenates from such couples in a variety of ways and means, and for us, best avoided. Not at all due to any insecurities we may harbour. Again not all of us.. our relationship is a very close one and we arent in it for selfish reasons and no way false or arkward ..but at the end of the day its up to each individual who you play with and we cant all be the same what a weird world that would be ..so happy fabbing to all .Storm x I did say "often" meaning we know there are exceptions May I ask. Why are you in a FB arrangement, and why do you then swing as part of that arrangement? Exceptions to all rules ..I was on here as a single lady and I met Si on a meet, I had a 20yr old vanilla crap marriage and when I came out of it I knew I had another side to me and Si and I became fwb and I wanted to explore that side of me, we don't play as singles we are a couple just not living together , we are very close we enjoy the social side of our relationship too. The reason we have a swinging side is simple we like it I have found a side to me that was always kept hidden , I love to watch be watched and seeing us both enjoying this lifestyle is amazing x Storm x Thanks for replying so honestly and sincerely. Yours contradicts my beliefs (and experience) of FB arrangements being one of self serving arrangement only " Xx Storm xx | |||
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"OP with false pic off internet .Probably a man .Lol just done tineye tutt tutt ." And she/he just took the profile picture off hahahaha, not varied, can't accommodate, can't travel, he must be in jail then hahahaha | |||
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"I could be mistaken, but the whole thread comes across as the OP enjoys lying to couples about her relationship status. How do you come to that conclusion when I'm a single fem? " The lady doth protest too much | |||
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"OP with false pic off internet .Probably a man .Lol just done tineye tutt tutt . Lol pic has swiftly been hidden." Yep reported .was off 57 sites on internet .why do people think they can get away with it .silly being fake . | |||
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"OP with false pic off internet .Probably a man .Lol just done tineye tutt tutt . Lol pic has swiftly been hidden. Yep reported .was off 57 sites on internet .why do people think they can get away with it .silly being fake ." The OP has been messaging people on this thread threatening to report them to admin. Oh the irony. | |||
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"A lot of fb/ fwb 'couples' are actually 2 people both married to other people, aka cheating. They probably want to avoid those types." But what makes you assume that?! I'm part of a couple with a widower..No wife to cheat on! I'm single but we are a couple on fab | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single!" If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? | |||
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"A lot of fb/ fwb 'couples' are actually 2 people both married to other people, aka cheating. They probably want to avoid those types. But what makes you assume that?! I'm part of a couple with a widower..No wife to cheat on! I'm single but we are a couple on fab" I said 'a lot of'. Not all. | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? " Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? " I've met as a couple with another fabber a few times (3 different single guys) and met couples and single girls so that we could enjoy the 3sum and 4sum plays. Swinging isn't just for couples in a relationship. As a single woman I like the security of having a partner when meeting a couple and it adds a different dynamic to the playing. I've only played with a couple on my own 2 or 3 times but as a couple several times. I'm about to start playing as a couple with a new guy I've been seeing and other couples don't have a problem with it. | |||
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"Does it matter? If it's a couple's profile then they are clearly meeting together" Or it's just a guy faking it? Could this be another reason? | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? " Some people just don't get it do they? | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Some people just don't get it do they?" No and it's a waste of time trying to explain to some people. | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? " You really have to ask that question?! | |||
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"OP your probably attracting fake people with your fake pics off internet .(tutt tutt)" Touché! Nice hot pant shorts by the way xx we like! | |||
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"OP your probably attracting fake people with your fake pics off internet .(tutt tutt) Touché! Nice hot pant shorts by the way xx we like!" Well thank you | |||
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"OP your probably attracting fake people with your fake pics off internet .(tutt tutt)" Thank you for your advice, but I'm sure admin will remove it if they see a problem with it. | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? " Yes as a couple I understand why couples play, I dont really understand people who aren't a couple, pairing up, not to have sex with each other, but with someone else. | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? Yes as a couple I understand why couples play, I dont really understand people who aren't a couple, pairing up, not to have sex with each other, but with someone else." Because they may like to watch and be watched. It's a different dynamic compared to just playing one on one and for some it would be a turn on to see their fwb getting pleasure with someone else | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? Yes as a couple I understand why couples play, I dont really understand people who aren't a couple, pairing up, not to have sex with each other, but with someone else. Because they may like to watch and be watched. It's a different dynamic compared to just playing one on one and for some it would be a turn on to see their fwb getting pleasure with someone else" So no separate room swapping with FWB couples then? | |||
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"A lot of fb/ fwb 'couples' are actually 2 people both married to other people, aka cheating. They probably want to avoid those types. But what makes you assume that?! I'm part of a couple with a widower..No wife to cheat on! I'm single but we are a couple on fab I said 'a lot of'. Not all. " Yeah you did. Apologies. But I haven't came across this often tbh | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? Yes as a couple I understand why couples play, I dont really understand people who aren't a couple, pairing up, not to have sex with each other, but with someone else." My fwb is single, we have e great chemistry but we want to meet other couples as a foursome. I don't wish to play with a couple by.myself and nor does he. That is why we have a couples profile too. However I will meet guys on my.singles profile although I now.may change my filters for no couples as I don't think I ever bought threesomes.now | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? Yes as a couple I understand why couples play, I dont really understand people who aren't a couple, pairing up, not to have sex with each other, but with someone else. My fwb is single, we have e great chemistry but we want to meet other couples as a foursome. I don't wish to play with a couple by.myself and nor does he. That is why we have a couples profile too. However I will meet guys on my.singles profile although I now.may change my filters for no couples as I don't think I ever bought threesomes.now" Bought should read want! | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? Yes as a couple I understand why couples play, I dont really understand people who aren't a couple, pairing up, not to have sex with each other, but with someone else. Because they may like to watch and be watched. It's a different dynamic compared to just playing one on one and for some it would be a turn on to see their fwb getting pleasure with someone else" It's more fun with someone to share it with. No joint marriage certificate required. | |||
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"A lot of fb/ fwb 'couples' are actually 2 people both married to other people, aka cheating. They probably want to avoid those types. But what makes you assume that?! I'm part of a couple with a widower..No wife to cheat on! I'm single but we are a couple on fab I said 'a lot of'. Not all. Yeah you did. Apologies. But I haven't came across this often tbh" No worries. x | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? Yes as a couple I understand why couples play, I dont really understand people who aren't a couple, pairing up, not to have sex with each other, but with someone else." I would imagine a FWB couple gets a very similar experience as a permanent couple do from playing with another couple: the fun of group sex, the pleasure of watching ones partner have sex with someone else, the enjoyment of having sex in front of others. If I were single, I would probably look for a FWB with whom to experience much the same as what I experience with my husband. Mrs | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? Yes as a couple I understand why couples play, I dont really understand people who aren't a couple, pairing up, not to have sex with each other, but with someone else. Because they may like to watch and be watched. It's a different dynamic compared to just playing one on one and for some it would be a turn on to see their fwb getting pleasure with someone else So no separate room swapping with FWB couples then? " There might be. But then some married couples might also do separate room swapping. We've been married for 12 years and together for 13. We usually play together, but have certainly played in different rooms too, and then tell each other all about it. Mrs | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? Yes as a couple I understand why couples play, I dont really understand people who aren't a couple, pairing up, not to have sex with each other, but with someone else. I would imagine a FWB couple gets a very similar experience as a permanent couple do from playing with another couple: the fun of group sex, the pleasure of watching ones partner have sex with someone else, the enjoyment of having sex in front of others. If I were single, I would probably look for a FWB with whom to experience much the same as what I experience with my husband. Mrs " | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? Yes as a couple I understand why couples play, I dont really understand people who aren't a couple, pairing up, not to have sex with each other, but with someone else. Because they may like to watch and be watched. It's a different dynamic compared to just playing one on one and for some it would be a turn on to see their fwb getting pleasure with someone else So no separate room swapping with FWB couples then? There might be. But then some married couples might also do separate room swapping. We've been married for 12 years and together for 13. We usually play together, but have certainly played in different rooms too, and then tell each other all about it. Mrs" But the poster said they like to watch and be watched, which would rule out seperate room swapping. You and your husband can go home and talk about it, but FWB cant do that, they go back to their own individual homes. I always some "FWB" couples don't even play with with other so to me it seems a very strange proposition "hey, you look nice, would you like to go and have sex with someone other than me?" | |||
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"One person earlier stated that all fwb couples were in fact two people married to others who were cheating! How on earth can she come to THAT conclusion! I have a couples profile with a widower and I'm a single! If you are not in a relationship with him, what's the point of meeting a couple, and then "swapping" and fucking the male half of the couple? Why not just meet the male half of the couple alone? Where does it say they do that? Whether they meet single men or couples, it's a totally different thing to meeting 1 on 1. Surely as a couple you should understand that? Yes as a couple I understand why couples play, I dont really understand people who aren't a couple, pairing up, not to have sex with each other, but with someone else. Because they may like to watch and be watched. It's a different dynamic compared to just playing one on one and for some it would be a turn on to see their fwb getting pleasure with someone else So no separate room swapping with FWB couples then? There might be. But then some married couples might also do separate room swapping. We've been married for 12 years and together for 13. We usually play together, but have certainly played in different rooms too, and then tell each other all about it. Mrs But the poster said they like to watch and be watched, which would rule out seperate room swapping. You and your husband can go home and talk about it, but FWB cant do that, they go back to their own individual homes. I always some "FWB" couples don't even play with with other so to me it seems a very strange proposition "hey, you look nice, would you like to go and have sex with someone other than me?" " Depends on the couple I suppose. I don't see why a FWB couple can't get the same out of it that a real couple can. I would imagine there are a whole variety of scenarios as with real couples. Though it's true, there is probably less cause for separate room play with FWB couples if they don't see each very often and aren't going home together. | |||
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