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"Never. Ever. Pregnancy, antibiotics or tombstones are not on our wish list. " couldn't have put it better ourselves | |||
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"Don't hold your breath waiting for someone to post... 'Yeah we go bare-back all the time' " I agree. I find these threads really boring. They're either pointless, or just an excuse for the usual rants and finger pointing. Yaaaaaaawn! | |||
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"Don't hold your breath waiting for someone to post... 'Yeah we go bare-back all the time' I agree. I find these threads really boring. They're either pointless, or just an excuse for the usual rants and finger pointing. Yaaaaaaawn!" careful when u yawn im not wearing a condom!!!!-spurrrrt! | |||
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"do u normally go bareback with strangers?" There are a large number here that do but would never admit to it. Often though there are giveaways. They are the ones who state condoms aren't the answer and they will rant away that people get complacent if they use them. These are the same people who unfortunately spread things through the community putting people at risk. | |||
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"do u normally go bareback with strangers?" Don't be daft don't be silly put a condom on your willy | |||
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"never understand these threads ive never seen anyone admit to doing it so why ask when you must know even those who do are going to say they dont lol" Agree. Do sometimes see dont like condoms on profiles but why would they post on here. They know they will probably get nagative remarks. They cant really defend it apart from saying its up to us which indeed it is. Still think they are only able to do it cos the rest of us dont. Imagine if no one did now with all the stuff that is around today. Doesnt bear thinking about. Mistress x | |||
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"As a shareholder in Reckitt Benckiser I strongly urge you all to use as many Durex condoms as you can so that the company can continue to pay me my dividends By the way Reckitt Benckiser also make Cillit Bang too " We're giving up using Cillit Bang & going back to condoms. Sick to death that every meet we have, some single bloke walks in saying " Hi, I'm Barry Scott..." & ruins the evening.. | |||
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"As a shareholder in Reckitt Benckiser I strongly urge you all to use as many Durex condoms as you can so that the company can continue to pay me my dividends By the way Reckitt Benckiser also make Cillit Bang too " We're giving up using Cillit Bang & going back to condoms. Sick to death that every meet we have, some single bloke walks in saying " Hi, I'm Barry Scott..." & ruins the evening.. | |||
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"Seems no-one wants to admit to gng BB. When u _iew pix on profiles there always appears to be diff cocks all without a cover. Me......i wouldnt go with cpl that do BB." I think you will find a lot of pics like that are posed to appear BB I know as I have been asked to 'pose' BB quite a few times Mike | |||
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"never understand these threads ive never seen anyone admit to doing it so why ask when you must know even those who do are going to say they dont lol" Admit? Does that mean there is something wrong with it? We prefer it bareback (though we will and *do* use condoms depending on the situation and how others feel or even how we feel about any particular meet) We have also said so many times on this forum and put so clearly on our profile that we enjoy bareback and there are plenty more on here who say the same. Does that mean we are an exception to your rule? Apparently we don't even exist as if no one would ever admit it! And 'admit#' suggests we are even doing anything wrong - yes we accept we are taking a partially greater risk than folks who do unprotected oral but the additional risk is not that great and we can accept the extra risk and live with it. The simple fact is for example in the case of HIV you are more likely to die or suffer severe injury driving to a safe sex meet than you are accommodating a bareback couple - don't believe it? Then go google the death rates/causes in the UK then come back and tell everyone what you found. And if you are a smoker then don't even worry yourself about safe sex or bareback! And we just gotta add - we've been swinging over four years, have check ups from time to time (last one was in Feb) and never contracted anything yet. Also gotta add if you like to bareback then put it on your profile (wtf isn't there a tick box for it on fab?) and you will find lots of folks who want to play - even if they don't openly state bareback xXx j&r | |||
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"never understand these threads ive never seen anyone admit to doing it so why ask when you must know even those who do are going to say they dont lol Admit? Does that mean there is something wrong with it? We prefer it bareback (though we will and *do* use condoms depending on the situation and how others feel or even how we feel about any particular meet) We have also said so many times on this forum and put so clearly on our profile that we enjoy bareback and there are plenty more on here who say the same. Does that mean we are an exception to your rule? Apparently we don't even exist as if no one would ever admit it! And 'admit#' suggests we are even doing anything wrong - yes we accept we are taking a partially greater risk than folks who do unprotected oral but the additional risk is not that great and we can accept the extra risk and live with it. The simple fact is for example in the case of HIV you are more likely to die or suffer severe injury driving to a safe sex meet than you are accommodating a bareback couple - don't believe it? Then go google the death rates/causes in the UK then come back and tell everyone what you found. And if you are a smoker then don't even worry yourself about safe sex or bareback! And we just gotta add - we've been swinging over four years, have check ups from time to time (last one was in Feb) and never contracted anything yet. Also gotta add if you like to bareback then put it on your profile (wtf isn't there a tick box for it on fab?) and you will find lots of folks who want to play - even if they don't openly state bareback xXx j&r" It's not just the big ones like HIV, basically your leavin yourself open to a whole host of warts\itches and rot going bareback. | |||
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"I have just scanned the thread and it seems to be very naive - there are a lot of bb peeps here and some are very honest about it and i have to give them credit for that although it's not for us some people tell the truth, - if someone wants bb then thats up to them - if we are all honest then we can make decisions based on that Z" I stopped reading the thread ages ago... ive no quams with BB messenger...i dont have a BB tho oops...meant blackberry | |||
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"never understand these threads ive never seen anyone admit to doing it so why ask when you must know even those who do are going to say they dont lol Admit? Does that mean there is something wrong with it? We prefer it bareback (though we will and *do* use condoms depending on the situation and how others feel or even how we feel about any particular meet) We have also said so many times on this forum and put so clearly on our profile that we enjoy bareback and there are plenty more on here who say the same. Does that mean we are an exception to your rule? Apparently we don't even exist as if no one would ever admit it! And 'admit#' suggests we are even doing anything wrong - yes we accept we are taking a partially greater risk than folks who do unprotected oral but the additional risk is not that great and we can accept the extra risk and live with it. The simple fact is for example in the case of HIV you are more likely to die or suffer severe injury driving to a safe sex meet than you are accommodating a bareback couple - don't believe it? Then go google the death rates/causes in the UK then come back and tell everyone what you found. And if you are a smoker then don't even worry yourself about safe sex or bareback! And we just gotta add - we've been swinging over four years, have check ups from time to time (last one was in Feb) and never contracted anything yet. Also gotta add if you like to bareback then put it on your profile (wtf isn't there a tick box for it on fab?) and you will find lots of folks who want to play - even if they don't openly state bareback xXx j&r" Honesty the best policy but you lose me with the ridiculous arguement about other risks in life.... not relevant. Also, how lucky are you that the majority of us wrap up otherwise you would be at a risk that Im pretty sure you would think twice about even comparing it to smoking or driving. Agree about the bb button on profile. Pick a side of the fence and be open about it = lets everyone have a choice. I have suggested it on threads before but people dont seem to agree that there is a point. I guess we all try to defend what we do to others otherwise we dont feel justified in doing it do we? Mistress x | |||
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"never understand these threads ive never seen anyone admit to doing it so why ask when you must know even those who do are going to say they dont lol Admit? Does that mean there is something wrong with it? We prefer it bareback (though we will and *do* use condoms depending on the situation and how others feel or even how we feel about any particular meet) We have also said so many times on this forum and put so clearly on our profile that we enjoy bareback and there are plenty more on here who say the same. Does that mean we are an exception to your rule? Apparently we don't even exist as if no one would ever admit it! And 'admit#' suggests we are even doing anything wrong - yes we accept we are taking a partially greater risk than folks who do unprotected oral but the additional risk is not that great and we can accept the extra risk and live with it. The simple fact is for example in the case of HIV you are more likely to die or suffer severe injury driving to a safe sex meet than you are accommodating a bareback couple - don't believe it? Then go google the death rates/causes in the UK then come back and tell everyone what you found. And if you are a smoker then don't even worry yourself about safe sex or bareback! And we just gotta add - we've been swinging over four years, have check ups from time to time (last one was in Feb) and never contracted anything yet. Also gotta add if you like to bareback then put it on your profile (wtf isn't there a tick box for it on fab?) and you will find lots of folks who want to play - even if they don't openly state bareback xXx j&r Honesty the best policy but you lose me with the ridiculous arguement about other risks in life.... not relevant. Also, how lucky are you that the majority of us wrap up otherwise you would be at a risk that Im pretty sure you would think twice about even comparing it to smoking or driving. Agree about the bb button on profile. Pick a side of the fence and be open about it = lets everyone have a choice. I have suggested it on threads before but people dont seem to agree that there is a point. I guess we all try to defend what we do to others otherwise we dont feel justified in doing it do we? Mistress x" Very well put.We all judge the risks we are willing to take.For me personally with random sex i do not see the point in adding to the statistical risk by not using a condom.It is like crossing a road without looking,yes you might make it safely across,but you will be bloody fecked when you get hit by the lorry. | |||
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"Comparing risk factors of other activities is relevant to keep things in prospective which is always a problem with this subject. "It's like playing Russian Roulette" odds 6 to 1. Having sex with an HIV/AIDS victim your risk is something like 1000 to 1. Your chances of having sex with someone infected with HIV/AIDS millions and millions to 1. It's a matter of keeping the risk in proportion then maybe it would be possible to have a rational debate with out bare-backers being made to feel like monsters! The pro 'safe-sex' say the risk is VERY high. The bare-backers say the risk is low. While in fact no one really knows the true risks with or without condoms. But here's one thing you can all be certain of... swinging is everything that 'safe-sex' isn't! ALL swingers are dramatically increasing their risk of contracting an STI/STD by the fact of swinging. So not one active swinger on the planet is in a good position the shout about 'safe-sex' as you/we all abuse the foundation of the principals of 'safe-sex' The term 'Safe-sex' shouldn't really be used on the site, just a "Prefer Condoms?" yes/no box." The figures of how much safer you are with a condom have been quantified and there is variation between Europe and the US ,Europe says you are 5 Times safer with a condom and US says 3 times safer. Of course you have to factor in the 0.4% allowable production failure of condoms which are allowed into shops without recall that is 4000 per million produced are duds ,blowing em up does not show if they are ok as hiv is only 1 micron in size,given that i shrug and think ok 3 times safer is better than no help at all. I totally respect the people who have done the figures, quantified and accepted the risk, Using a condom is safer but is NOT safe sex ,so lets live and let live eh . | |||
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"...and this is where all the stats start to come apart because there are so many variables that people often fail to consider before forming an opinion/policy and or shouting the odds to other people. For stats to be of any real use it would need controlled test/experiments such as a group of 'clear' people having different types of sexual acts with infected people. In the real world someone believing that condoms make it safe may have 100 new sex contacts in a year and maybe the bare-backer has say 2... who is most at risk? There is another angle too that beggers belief... The safe-sex person looks at a new sexual contact and says/thinks 'There is no way in a million years that I will have sex with you without a condom'... WHY? *insert a 1000 health risks* and then, with a condom just for penetrative sex they STILL have SEX with the person, someone who they think might be carrying STI/STD HIV/AIDS believing the condom WILL protect them!!! I just don't understand that! " The two choices you give are not the only ones available. Some of us are incredibly fussy about who we meet and who they meet and not meeting many new people and using protection. Oral unprotected but no guys are allowed to cum in my mouth either. That lowers to chances to odds we are more comfortable with. Works for us. The rest of you will do as you please also. Just annoys me to read such silly comparisons. We are all prepared to take different amount of chances that we are comfortable with. I dont look up odds of driving a car, smoking or eating too much as a reason for our being willing to swing. Its ridiculous and means nothing.... and this from someone who has lost both of her parents due to smoking. Mistress x | |||
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"ermmmm... i have seen profiles of couples who state 'bareback only' yuk now that is grim, dangerous and down right stupid!. " Now that is just the kind of thing I was talking about. Voicing your opinions in this way is just the sort of thing that causes some bare-backers to lie/hide. Now I'm NOT suggesting for a split second that you shouldn't voice your opinion. I for one have lots of opinions about lots of different subjects but many of them I keep to myself for the simple reason they are never going to be helpful in any way. If you are going to call bare-backers 'idiots' then some 50 million people will call you an idiot for being a swinger, which totally contravenes safe-sex with or without a condom! | |||
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