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"the problem, i find, and this is just my point of _iew here....the vast majority of single guys on here arent really swingers....they are looking for a shag...basically no strings dating with plenty of sex.The problem comes when they find someone they want to see more than once, then the green eyed monster rears its ugly head.They need to be reminded its a SWINGERS SITE not a sex site,per se, and definitely not a dating site.Saying that, have met some lovely single guys who are a credit to swinging. " + 1 | |||
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"I am finding more and more often that the guys I talk to on here and/or meet get jealous of other guys. I am a single female swinger, I don't consider myself better than anyone else, so why did I get a date cancelled tonight because someone thought I was 'two-timing' them because of a verification? Tell him to go fuck himself the rude bastard. Like others have said it's a swinging site. Now he has shown his true colours, show him the door. You are better than that sort of shit treatment. There are so many more women out there guys. Don't restrict yourself to one! " | |||
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"in the early days of our venture into this hobby quite often when telling a guy about us we would include the line "we have a fantastic sex life that stands up on its own without this hobby" we soon learned that line pretty much guaranteed an end to communications. However, using that line was typically inspired by guys who gave us the impression they thought there was a cock/man shorted here. We guess it suited them to think that so they didn't have to worry about being good enough or perhaps better than the hubby." It isn't a competition, or about showing the woman how much better you are than her partner. A single guy should be thinking about how they can help make the whole experience rewarding for both partners. That means him as well as her. | |||
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"in the early days of our venture into this hobby quite often when telling a guy about us we would include the line "we have a fantastic sex life that stands up on its own without this hobby" we soon learned that line pretty much guaranteed an end to communications. However, using that line was typically inspired by guys who gave us the impression they thought there was a cock/man shorted here. We guess it suited them to think that so they didn't have to worry about being good enough or perhaps better than the hubby. It isn't a competition, or about showing the woman how much better you are than her partner. A single guy should be thinking about how they can help make the whole experience rewarding for both partners. That means him as well as her." You are of course dead right but as has been said, often 'single guy' doesn't mean 'real swinger' | |||
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"Single guy bashing - that is why the term 'real swingers' came into it, because most of the idiots who piss people about are married men posing as single guys and are NOT real swingers " The guy who cancelled on me was part of a couple, so that was the case. I asked him what his wife thought of him taking me to a club instead of her but was told that she would be relieved that he'd found someone else to play with. I definitely got the feeling that she was no longer intereseted and I was supposed to replace her for clubs etc. I probably dodged a bullet, but it doesn't mean he should behave that rudely. | |||
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"worth noting some single guys are so desperate to find a female that would be willing to create a 'couples' profile with him.. it is his golden ticket... and very likely if he does, he will suggest /insist NO SINGLE GUY for them. That may drive some of the said behaviour.. an some should/are be on a dating site and that goes for females also..." Yes, this is another problem I have - my choice being restricted when I AM playing as a couple. I want to meet lots of men at clubs and parties, not have to make sure I am not hurting someones feelings. | |||
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"One of my closest male friends met up with a woman, nice woman he said, that had a really great evening and then she said to him before he left that if he wanted to see her again he would have to stop seeing anyone else, so it does work all ways. I seriously dont understand what part of the word swinging people dont get. Surely if someone is insecure with themselves this is the wrong kind of enviroment for them to put themselves in" I have to admit, this has happened to me. I was asked by a woman who I got on really well with that if I wanted to spend time with her again that I would have to stop seeing all the others. I told her thar she was must be joking. I do not see her anymore, my choice. | |||
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"I am finding more and more often that the guys I talk to on here and/or meet get jealous of other guys. I am a single female swinger, I don't consider myself better than anyone else, so why did I get a date cancelled tonight because someone thought I was 'two-timing' them because of a verification? There are so many more women out there guys. Don't restrict yourself to one! " How can you 2 time someone on a swinging site! lol thats funny stay away from the nutters, there are decent blokes on here | |||
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"How can you 2 time someone on a swinging site! lol thats funny stay away from the nutters, there are decent blokes on here " Unfortunately it is difficult to sort out the nutters from the decent guys until they do something nutty. | |||
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"How can you 2 time someone on a swinging site! lol thats funny stay away from the nutters, there are decent blokes on here Unfortunately it is difficult to sort out the nutters from the decent guys until they do something nutty." true, there are a lot of nuts out there! maybe you should put no nuts on your profile lol | |||
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"How can you 2 time someone on a swinging site! lol thats funny stay away from the nutters, there are decent blokes on here Unfortunately it is difficult to sort out the nutters from the decent guys until they do something nutty. true, there are a lot of nuts out there! maybe you should put no nuts on your profile lol" LOL there are profiles out there that obviously get updated everytime something horrible happens to the person, and I don't want to end up with a profile 3 pages long. I have had my fair share of no shows, timewasters, and complete wackos, but I am slowly ing them out thanks to experience and advice from people on the forums. But I had never come across someone who decided to throw a strop and cancel a date with no notice just because they thought I had two-timed them! | |||
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"... and complete wackos, but I am slowly ing them out thanks to experience and advice from people on the forums. " You called? | |||
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"... and complete wackos, but I am slowly ing them out thanks to experience and advice from people on the forums. You called? " Aarghh!! | |||
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"A few people don't quite get the hang of the scene Best way ta describe swinging is leave reality at the door and pick it up on ya way out That's always been my ethos xx " Wise words... oddly from a man in someone else's pink knickers... | |||
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"the problem, i find, and this is just my point of _iew here....the vast majority of single guys on here arent really swingers....they are looking for a shag...basically no strings dating with plenty of sex.The problem comes when they find someone they want to see more than once, then the green eyed monster rears its ugly head.They need to be reminded its a SWINGERS SITE not a sex site,per se, and definitely not a dating site.Saying that, have met some lovely single guys who are a credit to swinging. " I totally agree...and the same thing goes for some single women on here too....have had stroppiness aimed at me because of a hypocrite ! | |||
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"I am a married women ,clearly not looking for commitment yet i have had this problem too. Single guys who i have not wanted to meet again have accused me of "dumping " them. A reason i stopped meeting single men without kev is they seemed to think that sex led to some form of attachment. i have to agree with those who have said many single men are not swingers, but looking for a shag ,and there is a difference.(this may be true of single women,but i have never had the same problem ) " wow! refreshing _iew! and I always thought that its women that cant distinguish between sex and love/relationships! playing devils advocate before I get lynched! lol Now prey tell what real swingers are? aren't they people who enjoy sex with various and numerous partners with no commitment? as we have now moved on from 'wife swapping' and as single men and ladies are welcome on this swinging site shouldn't they be classed as swingers or is this just semantics? Now from time to time relationships will blossom! yes even here! so at that point do those people stop being swingers? and this happens with married peeps too! I should have known this would end up in some way being a single guy bashing exercise. We all acknowledge that guys have difficulty differentiating what is sex,romance and love so why are you surprised when some become jealous or insecure? Oh and by the way I hope he who ever he was doesn't read the forums! and please don't think this is one way traffic because I think we can all agree that when it comes to jealousy you ladies rule the roost and thats in and out of swinging! lol and you def know how to sort it! revenge is best served by using his tooth brush to clean the loo or dogs teeth? lol not un-heard of! lol | |||
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"I am finding more and more often that the guys I talk to on here and/or meet get jealous of other guys. I am a single female swinger, I don't consider myself better than anyone else, so why did I get a date cancelled tonight because someone thought I was 'two-timing' them because of a verification? There are so many more women out there guys. Don't restrict yourself to one! How can you 2 time someone on a swinging site! lol thats funny stay away from the nutters, there are decent blokes on here " I am always up for a 2nd time or even 3rd but most don't have the energy. | |||
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"Make your mind up. Are you going to reply to this post or not? Oh and by the way, stop mixing me up with Jemima. I have nothing against it, but I have never been married so saying that about me makes you look silly." ohhh, i'm flattered anyone could ever confuse us! | |||
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"Make your mind up. Are you going to reply to this post or not? Oh and by the way, stop mixing me up with Jemima. I have nothing against it, but I have never been married so saying that about me makes you look silly. ohhh, i'm flattered anyone could ever confuse us! " Ditto, but it is making him look silly and me get mad! | |||
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"Ohhh since i seem to have got drawn into the Wyrd/jem splice i will say my piece too. i am sorry if facts can seem like single men bashing,but i posted because i have had similar experiences over many years of swinging.In fact kev joked once swinging would be easy if single blokes would just stop falling for me! Strangely ,i am poly ,i am the last person who needs a lecture on the fact we have different attachments and commitments in our lives.Both kev and i have had long term relationhips with significant others during our marriage.This is not swinging. My relationship with my Master,who knows of my feelings for him,is not swinging. When you meet someone you fucked once in chat ,they ask to meet again,you say no,and they accuse you of dumping them..is that nsa sex? When someone repeatedly texts to find out why you wont meet again...is that nsa sex? When someone tells you they cried when you said you will not meet again,is that nsa sex? i could go on,but the thing all these examples have in common is that they were men i met for a fuck on a swinging site.Once the deed was done,why believe it was anything more than a shag? " well said !!!!!!!!!! | |||
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"How can you 2 time someone on a swinging site! lol thats funny stay away from the nutters, there are decent blokes on here Unfortunately it is difficult to sort out the nutters from the decent guys until they do something nutty.can't put that lol we put all nutters welcome once and got told we would be banned from the site if we didn't remove it lol....... spoil ports lol true, there are a lot of nuts out there! maybe you should put no nuts on your profile lol" | |||
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"Ohhh since i seem to have got drawn into the Wyrd/jem splice i will say my piece too. i am sorry if facts can seem like single men bashing,but i posted because i have had similar experiences over many years of swinging.In fact kev joked once swinging would be easy if single blokes would just stop falling for me! Strangely ,i am poly ,i am the last person who needs a lecture on the fact we have different attachments and commitments in our lives.Both kev and i have had long term relationhips with significant others during our marriage.This is not swinging. My relationship with my Master,who knows of my feelings for him,is not swinging. When you meet someone you fucked once in chat ,they ask to meet again,you say no,and they accuse you of dumping them..is that nsa sex? When someone repeatedly texts to find out why you wont meet again...is that nsa sex? When someone tells you they cried when you said you will not meet again,is that nsa sex? i could go on,but the thing all these examples have in common is that they were men i met for a fuck on a swinging site.Once the deed was done,why believe it was anything more than a shag? " It says to me and I take it this is 3 examples of different men as you say men you've met not a man you've met that either they were a poor choice by yourself, or you gave of feelings or sentiments which confussed them or possibly they were not honest about what they were looking for? I suspect the cynics will think the latter but what ever their reasons without hearing from them it's all just guess work! We don't have a balenced argument so how do we tell oh I know let's go on intuitient and the fact they are guys. Forums are great places to air you _iews but not always the best for balanced and reasonable judgements. Probably because we don't always explain what it is we are really looking to say in a succinct and precise impartial way and really just want people to here our moans and groans and have acceptance and validation of them. Now what other trouble can I get myself in? | |||
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"I am finding more and more often that the guys I talk to on here and/or meet get jealous of other guys. I am a single female swinger, I don't consider myself better than anyone else, so why did I get a date cancelled tonight because someone thought I was 'two-timing' them because of a verification? There are so many more women out there guys. Don't restrict yourself to one! " ive had this many times, guys asking me why i have met someone else, and why i didnt just call them etc Its obvious why they do it, because they find meets harder than women so when they do find a women to meet they want to keep them close, its not cause they fall in love with you its just theres more chance of fucking someone you have met before than finding a new meet lol I very rarely do meets that arnt just one offs now days, because of this, you all know where you stand if you tell guys before hand i dont do regular meets, then if they do get arsey because you meet someone else you can just say....look i told you i wasnt meeting you again | |||
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"Right, final message to JJohn then I move on. I am NOT single bashing, as he was not single. I am NOT asking lots of Qs on here about whys and wherefores. I am stating that it is a FACT that several male members of this site I have communicated with have got jealous when I have either met other guys, or been verified by other guys. I am NOT giving mixed signals - I have made it abundantly clear on my profile that I am single, I intend to stay that way, and I do not wish to become regular or meet more than once. And what the hell are you comparing this site to my job for? Do the guys on this site pay me? Buy me food? Pay my leccie? No?? Well my employer does and thats why I commit to them when I do not commit to any man at all ever! I have a feeling you are projecting on me for some reason, so basically you have just proved my point. You have no idea what you are talking about." Not trying to upset or project just my _iews which are based on your profile and comments. Your prof say how passionate and sensual and how you like to connect with the person you're in bed with. A fair comment I'm sure all will agree, however, I suggest that the way in which you do this is being miss read by these guys, especially if it's happening continually. It's not really a common complaint or at least not one that makes people say on their profiles they are sick of jealous people! So that's my opinion as a guy whi isn't looking for a relationship and can distinguish between sex, passion, sensuality and connecting with the ladies I'm fortunate to meet. Your intensity is clearly to much for mere mortals and they can't handle it, so be a little more choosy and precise in your comments to the victims of your passion, we are a simple species and are easily confussed! lol | |||
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"sorry but bottom line is this is a swing site ! people can meet who they want ,when they want how often they want ! there is zero room for jealousies ,it is only ever negative and destructive. as for commitment you mentioned... there is no where mentioned about any type of commitment on here .any person who exspects any type of commitment apart from turning up when agreed is just causing problems for themselves ! people dont join swing site to be " exclusive " to a cpl,fem or guy .we are adults and maybe then people throwing hissy fits that person theyve seen has had others meets really need to reevaluate why they are here and what they are actually wanting and just grow up ." met my last gf on fab, never looked for it and I lived with her for a year. and were pretty much exclusive throughout...but kinda felt I could never leave the whole scene entirely | |||
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"sorry but bottom line is this is a swing site ! people can meet who they want ,when they want how often they want ! there is zero room for jealousies ,it is only ever negative and destructive. as for commitment you mentioned... there is no where mentioned about any type of commitment on here .any person who exspects any type of commitment apart from turning up when agreed is just causing problems for themselves ! people dont join swing site to be " exclusive " to a cpl,fem or guy .we are adults and maybe then people throwing hissy fits that person theyve seen has had others meets really need to reevaluate why they are here and what they are actually wanting and just grow up . met my last gf on fab, never looked for it and I lived with her for a year. and were pretty much exclusive throughout...but kinda felt I could never leave the whole scene entirely" thats cool! and yes people meet and have actual realtionships from here and i wish them all every happiness. the key word you said was you werent looking for it ,but it happened for the BOTH of you . but has to be two way thing such as you had found. what op is discussing is just meets .im sure if a women you met cpl of times for fun suddenly got bunny boiler on you for meeting other women youd cut them loose very quickly . | |||
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"Ohhh since i seem to have got drawn into the Wyrd/jem splice i will say my piece too. i am sorry if facts can seem like single men bashing,but i posted because i have had similar experiences over many years of swinging.In fact kev joked once swinging would be easy if single blokes would just stop falling for me! Strangely ,i am poly ,i am the last person who needs a lecture on the fact we have different attachments and commitments in our lives.Both kev and i have had long term relationhips with significant others during our marriage.This is not swinging. My relationship with my Master,who knows of my feelings for him,is not swinging. When you meet someone you fucked once in chat ,they ask to meet again,you say no,and they accuse you of dumping them..is that nsa sex? When someone repeatedly texts to find out why you wont meet again...is that nsa sex? When someone tells you they cried when you said you will not meet again,is that nsa sex? i could go on,but the thing all these examples have in common is that they were men i met for a fuck on a swinging site.Once the deed was done,why believe it was anything more than a shag? It says to me and I take it this is 3 examples of different men as you say men you've met not a man you've met that either they were a poor choice by yourself, or you gave of feelings or sentiments which confussed them or possibly they were not honest about what they were looking for? I suspect the cynics will think the latter but what ever their reasons without hearing from them it's all just guess work! We don't have a balenced argument so how do we tell oh I know let's go on intuitient and the fact they are guys. Forums are great places to air you _iews but not always the best for balanced and reasonable judgements. Probably because we don't always explain what it is we are really looking to say in a succinct and precise impartial way and really just want people to here our moans and groans and have acceptance and validation of them. Now what other trouble can I get myself in?" i apologize for believing sharing experiences is a valid use of the forum.i shall never use an empirical argument again,instead retraining myself to a pure platonist approach,where we discuss the swinging ideal. i am sure you are happier if women are seen and not heard anyway. | |||
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"i have just read the post and even as a single guy have not taken this as single guy bashing. Possessiveness has no place in swinging at all. Personally i am not looking for notches on my bedpost (not a dig raise just balance) and have a circle of friends, some i have been playing with for nearly five years, but i would not under any circumstances try to influence, control or even comment on anything they did when not with me. Diamond and soapy got it spot on, when i am with them i am with them and we do the touchy felly cuddly or just plain sex bit but once we part company that's it till we see each other next. And soapy's suspension of reality is essentialy what happens. Real life is forgotten for an evening of fun and enjoyment. There are many people who cannot seperate the emotional side of sex from the physical pleasure and mental enjoyment of sex, and these are the people who should not be swinging be they single guys, single wimin, couples or bloody martians. Like they say, if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen." Well said | |||
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"A few people don't quite get the hang of the scene Best way ta describe swinging is leave reality at the door and pick it up on ya way out That's always been my ethos xx " The perfect swinger x | |||
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"I am finding more and more often that the guys I talk to on here and/or meet get jealous of other guys. I am a single female swinger, I don't consider myself better than anyone else, so why did I get a date cancelled tonight because someone thought I was 'two-timing' them because of a verification? There are so many more women out there guys. Don't restrict yourself to one! ive had this many times, guys asking me why i have met someone else, and why i didnt just call them etc Its obvious why they do it, because they find meets harder than women so when they do find a women to meet they want to keep them close, its not cause they fall in love with you its just theres more chance of fucking someone you have met before than finding a new meet lol I very rarely do meets that arnt just one offs now days, because of this, you all know where you stand if you tell guys before hand i dont doregular meets, then if they do get arsey because you meet someone else you can just say....look i told you i wasnt meeting you again ;- )" I agree with what NN says and to honest don't think I could cope with meeting her more than once a d when she has a hold of your cock I wouldn't argue with her! lol She's lovely and what you see is what you get and all the passion you can handle. | |||
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"i have just read the post and even as a single guy have not taken this as single guy bashing. Possessiveness has no place in swinging at all. Personally i am not looking for notches on my bedpost (not a dig raise just balance) and have a circle of friends, some i have been playing with for nearly five years, but i would not under any circumstances try to influence, control or even comment on anything they did when not with me. Diamond and soapy got it spot on, when i am with them i am with them and we do the touchy felly cuddly or just plain sex bit but once we part company that's it till we see each other next. And soapy's suspension of reality is essentialy what happens. Real life is forgotten for an evening of fun and enjoyment. There are many people who cannot seperate the emotional side of sex from the physical pleasure and mental enjoyment of sex, and these are the people who should not be swinging be they single guys, single wimin, couples or bloody martians. Like they say, if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen. Well said " glad it wasnt a dig at me, ur in ma list of to do's...wont say what number of course...hate ppl gettin jealous ya kow lol | |||
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"oh my god lol !!! so its ops fault for giving out wrong signals !! ohh please !!! this is a swing site !i consider that type of statement very dangerous . if anyone is msitaking it for anymore than just sex and fun between adults then the issue is THEIRS not ops ! " Steady tiger! lol So you don't agree that mixed messages can happen? That sounds like dangerous ground to me!! lol So the people who have formed relationships from here and weren't looking for them clearly didn't misread the massages being given. Of course it can happen passion sensuality are all emotions and if you've never experienced them you may well mis read them. Perhaps as some have said you need experience and maturity to handle the special kind of closeness experienced but even the most experienced can get caught out? | |||
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" glad it wasnt a dig at me, ur in ma list of to do's...wont say what number of course...hate ppl gettin jealous ya kow lol" Jealous??!!!? i'm fekin scared now. Hey, Isn't there a thread for this? | |||
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"i apologize for believing sharing experiences is a valid use of the forum.i shall never use an empirical argument again,instead retraining myself to a pure platonist approach,where we discuss the swinging ideal. i am sure you are happier if women are seen and not heard anyway. " Yes, silly me for raising a concern about something that seems to be happening more and more often to me on Fab. It is obviously all my fault for being a single swinging woman. I should feel honoured that a couple of men wish to keep me to themselves and believe the way to my heart is to throw a tantrum. I am so glad JJohn mansplained my place in this site to me. I shall not stray from his true way again! | |||
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"i apologize for believing sharing experiences is a valid use of the forum.i shall never use an empirical argument again,instead retraining myself to a pure platonist approach,where we discuss the swinging ideal. i am sure you are happier if women are seen and not heard anyway. Yes, silly me for raising a concern about something that seems to be happening more and more often to me on Fab. It is obviously all my fault for being a single swinging woman. I should feel honoured that a couple of men wish to keep me to themselves and believe the way to my heart is to throw a tantrum. I am so glad JJohn mansplained my place in this site to me. I shall not stray from his true way again! " i agree, we do need to realize our inability to understand the male mind is hindering our lives and if only we could listen to the menz our problems would be solved.It is now clear to me that i should never have challenged his _iews. Interesting how all the other people in the thread who said the same have been ignored though. | |||
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" Interesting how all the other people in the thread who said the same have been ignored though. " I just ignored it as I thot they were flirting! | |||
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"It is obviously all my fault for being a single swinging woman. I should feel honoured that a couple of men wish to keep me to themselves and believe the way to my heart is to throw a tantrum. " Please never believe that it is the domain of single men. Women are just as bad, and can be a dam sight more evil. | |||
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"It is obviously all my fault for being a single swinging woman. I should feel honoured that a couple of men wish to keep me to themselves and believe the way to my heart is to throw a tantrum. Please never believe that it is the domain of single men. Women are just as bad, and can be a dam sight more evil. " I never do, but JJohn got me a bit cross blaming me for giving the guys mixed signals, so I was being facetious. Careful though. He'll be lecturing you next for giving women mixed signals, else why would they be behaving so evil? | |||
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"oh my god lol !!! so its ops fault for giving out wrong signals !! ohh please !!! this is a swing site !i consider that type of statement very dangerous . if anyone is msitaking it for anymore than just sex and fun between adults then the issue is THEIRS not ops ! Steady tiger! lol So you don't agree that mixed messages can happen? That sounds like dangerous ground to me!! lol So the people who have formed relationships from here and weren't looking for them clearly didn't misread the massages being given. Of course it can happen passion sensuality are all emotions and if you've never experienced them you may well mis read them. Perhaps as some have said you need experience and maturity to handle the special kind of closeness experienced but even the most experienced can get caught out?" there is a HUGE difference between two adults discussing about taking their meeting just to swing into a relationship ,and fellow swingers getting jealous when someone they meet swings with other people! if one person is assuming the feelings of another then thats dangerous ! unless two people have discussed and decided they want to be exculsive to each other here then why should anyone automatically assumme that would be case ??? no matter how intense and sensual the sex is and how close they get noone had said it still anything but fucking for fun ! if person cant get their head round that then its hardly the person they are meetings fault ! we are only responsible for our own actions ,not for thoses of others . | |||
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"It is obviously all my fault for being a single swinging woman. I should feel honoured that a couple of men wish to keep me to themselves and believe the way to my heart is to throw a tantrum. Please never believe that it is the domain of single men. Women are just as bad, and can be a dam sight more evil. I never do, but JJohn got me a bit cross blaming me for giving the guys mixed signals, so I was being facetious. Careful though. He'll be lecturing you next for giving women mixed signals, else why would they be behaving so evil?" I've been swinging a long long time, both as a single and as a couple. I've seen swinging change over the past few years and become more of an acceptable 'sport' and a dating avenue. I know many many women and men who think they would meet the perfect person in a swinger. High sex drive as well as the normal stuff. I also know men and women who are looking for anything and anyone to date as they no longer want to be single. There are many on here who state they are 'not' looking for a relationship, yet when you talk to them, it's bloody obvious they are. People confuse making love and having sex, they also confuse the open honesty that swingers (in general) portray and the ability to talk sex, as a come on and it can make for some very sticky situations. I've been in the situation the OP described and belive me, I've never ever given any male I've swung with the slightest hint that I was interested with them outside of swinging. Unfortunately, also, I know a few women who've demanded that if a bloke wants to swing with them again, then they must denounce all others....... so it works badly from all angles. But you also can't confuse a genuine like and attraction for someone with emotional interest. Swinging, as all people who start swinging should be informed, is about NSA FUN and sexual liberation. NOT about shagging around til you find someone you like and then demanding they feel the same and give it all up. I personally don't think the OP was being faceceous or leading anyone on...... it was just a situation she found herself in that she asked for comments about. | |||
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"It is obviously all my fault for being a single swinging woman. I should feel honoured that a couple of men wish to keep me to themselves and believe the way to my heart is to throw a tantrum. Please never believe that it is the domain of single men. Women are just as bad, and can be a dam sight more evil. I never do, but JJohn got me a bit cross blaming me for giving the guys mixed signals, so I was being facetious. Careful though. He'll be lecturing you next for giving women mixed signals, else why would they be behaving so evil?" I dunno you can't offer an opinion or reason why something may be happening without the being acused of 'blame' it's your fault cause your sending out the wrong signals! Silly me yes can't be in any way your responsibility for multiple guys according to your comments for wanting a relationship after a meet. Shame we can't here from them as to what really happened after all this could be a total fabrication and started for the hell of it.... But I guess we'll never know. I shall repeat it for you I was not blaming but suggesting that these guys may have read more into the profile and your actions on the nights in Q Not completely impossible to believe...or am I just sexist? I think I know where I am in your eyes! So have you reported these guys unwanted attentions? Seems to me you should.... Any unwanted attention is distasteful especially if it's continuous or freaking you out! You don't have to listen to what I'm saying you dont have to believe it do as you will... Bored with your whinging to be honest.... Or am I be fascious | |||
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"It is obviously all my fault for being a single swinging woman. I should feel honoured that a couple of men wish to keep me to themselves and believe the way to my heart is to throw a tantrum. Please never believe that it is the domain of single men. Women are just as bad, and can be a dam sightmore evi I never do, but JJohn got me a bit cross blaming me for giving the guys mixed signals, so I was being facetious Careful though. He'll be lecturing you next for giving women mixed signals, else why would they be behaving so evil I've been swinging a long long time, both as a single and as a couple I've seen swinging change over the past few years and become more of an acceptable 'sport' and a dating avenue. I know many many women and men who think they would meet the perfect person in a swinger. High sex drive as well as the normal stuff. I also know men and women who are looking for anything and anyone to date as they no longer want to be single. There are many on here who state they are 'not' looking for a relationship, yet when you talk to them, it's bloody obvious they are People confuse making love and having sex, they also confuse the open honesty that swingers Enw0vff (in general) portray and the ability to talk sex, as a come on and it can make for some very sticky situations I've been in the situation the OP described and belive me, I've never ever given any male I've swung with the slightest hint that I was interested with them outside of swinging Unfortunately, also, I know a few women who've demanded that if a bloke wants to swing with them again, then they must denounce all others....... so it works badly from all angles. But you also can't confuse a genuine like and attraction for someone with emotional interes Swinging, as all people who start swinging should be informed, is about NSA FUN and sexual liberation. NOT about shagging around til you find someone you like and then demanding they feel the same and give it all up. I personally don't think the OP was being faceceous or leading anyone on...... it was just a situation she found herself in that she asked for comments about." Agree with every word although I do think some guys may have a hard time distinguishing emotions, it's some thing that they are not comfortable dealing with and find hard to understand... Probably the same for what's the word bunny boilers! Few and far between I hope. lol happens though look at rio Ferdinand this week with his stalker. Offered comments and they werent liked, maybe a could have maybe worded differently but hey this is a forum and your not necessarily going to like every thing you read. so we now both feel we have to defend our opinions that's life! If this had only happened the once but this seems to have happened a lot more to the OP. | |||
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"My profiles leave no room for mixed messages... men are made perfectly clear on the situation.. yet we have had the jealousy.. the guys wanting to know why I'm still looking for others... It doesn't take mixed messages... some, men and woman alike can't work out how you can be like that with them if you didn't feel something... people can easily confuse lust for love feelings. Katie x " Yes agree so if they confuse the the feelings the messages they are feeling are mixed? Confused? Same thing | |||
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"Ohhh since i seem to have got drawn into the Wyrd/jem splice i will say my piece too. i am sorry if facts can seem like single men bashing,but i posted because i have had similar experiences over many years of swinging.In fact kev joked once swinging would be easy if single blokes would just stop falling for me! Strangely ,i am poly ,i am the last person who needs a lecture on the fact we have different attachments and commitments in our lives.Both kev and i have had long term relationhips with significant others during our marriage.This is not swinging. My relationship with my Master,who knows of my feelings for him,is not swinging. When you meet someone you fucked once in chat ,they ask to meet again,you say no,and they accuse you of dumping them..is that nsa sex? When someone repeatedly texts to find out why you wont meet again...is that nsa sex? When someone tells you they cried when you said you will not meet again,is that nsa sex? i could go on,but the thing all these examples have in common is that they were men i met for a fuck on a swinging site.Once the deed was done,why believe it was anything more than a shag? " I'm buggered if I'm going to get drawn into this - not because of the women involved, but because I don't want to give an alibi to some of them men involved, but I'll say this. Confusing the gift of pleasure with a gesture of love is not exactly unknown amongst men and women. The trouble is I know of no reliable diagnostic that can be deployed in advance of the gift of pleasure. | |||
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"Ohhh since i seem to have got drawn into the Wyrd/jem splice i will say my piece too. i am sorry if facts can seem like single men bashing,but i posted because i have had similar experiences over many years of swinging.In fact kev joked once swinging would be easy if single blokes would just stop falling for me! Strangely ,i am poly ,i am the last person who needs a lecture on the fact we have different attachments and commitments in our lives.Both kev and i have had long term relationhips with significant others during our marriage.This is not swinging. My relationship with my Master,who knows of my feelings for him,is not swinging When you meet someone you fucked once in chat ,they ask to meet again,you say no,and they accuse you of dumping them..is that nsa sex When someone repeatedly texts to find out why you wont meet again...is that nsa sex When someone tells you they cried when you said you will not meet again,is that nsa sex? i could go on,but the thing all these examples have in common is that they were men i met for a fuck on a swinging site.Once the deed was done,why believe it was anything more than a shag I'm buggered if I'm going to get drawn into this - not because of the women involved, but because I don't want to give an alibi to some of them men involved, but I'll say this. Confusing the gift of pleasure with a gesture of love is not exactly unknown amongst men and women. The trouble is I know of no reliable diagnostic that can be deployed in advance of the gift of pleasure." Maybe a questionair? lol Men are from mars and women are from Venus! lol Not really surprising is it! lol | |||
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"Ohhh since i seem to have got drawn into the Wyrd/jem splice i will say my piece too. i am sorry if facts can seem like single men bashing,but i posted because i have had similar experiences over many years of swinging.In fact kev joked once swinging would be easy if single blokes would just stop falling for me! Strangely ,i am poly ,i am the last person who needs a lecture on the fact we have different attachments and commitments in our lives.Both kev and i have had long term relationhips with significant others during our marriage.This is not swinging. My relationship with my Master,who knows of my feelings for him,is not swinging When you meet someone you fucked once in chat ,they ask to meet again,you say no,and they accuse you of dumping them..is that nsa sex When someone repeatedly texts to find out why you wont meet again...is that nsa sex When someone tells you they cried when you said you will not meet again,is that nsa sex? i could go on,but the thing all these examples have in common is that they were men i met for a fuck on a swinging site.Once the deed was done,why believe it was anything more than a shag I'm buggered if I'm going to get drawn into this - not because of the women involved, but because I don't want to give an alibi to some of them men involved, but I'll say this. Confusing the gift of pleasure with a gesture of love is not exactly unknown amongst men and women. The trouble is I know of no reliable diagnostic that can be deployed in advance of the gift of pleasure. Maybe a questionair? lol Men are from mars and women are from Venus! lol Not really surprising is it! lol " I'm startled that you can respond to what I said with that bollocks cliche about Mars and Venus. You may not be picking up the signals correctly. | |||
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"Ohhh since i seem to have got drawn into the Wyrd/jem splice i will say my piece too. i am sorry if facts can seem like single men bashing,but i posted because i have had similar experiences over many years of swinging.In fact kev joked once swinging would be easy if single blokes would just stop falling for me! Strangely ,i am poly ,i am the last person who needs a lecture on the fact we have different attachments and commitments in our lives.Both kev and i have had long term relationhips with significant others during our marriage.This is not swinging. My relationship with my Master,who knows of my feelings for him,is not swinging When you meet someone you fucked once in chat ,they ask to meet again,you say no,and they accuse you of dumping them..is that nsa sex When someone repeatedly texts to find out why you wont meet again...is that nsa sex When someone tells you they cried when you said you will not meet again,is that nsa sex? i could go on,but the thing all these examples have in common is that they were men i met for a fuck on a swinging site.Once the deed was done,why believe it was anything more than a sha I'm buggered if I'm going to get drawn into this - not because of the women involved, but because I don't want to give an alibi to some of them me involved, but I'll say this. Confusing the gift of pleasure with a gesture of love is not exactly unknown amongst men and women. The trouble is I know of no reliable diagnostic that can be deployed in advance of the gift of pleasure. Maybe a questionair? lol Men are from mars and women are from Venus! lol Not really surprising is it! lol I'm startled that you can respond to what I said with that bollocks cliche about Mars and Venus.You may not be picking up the signals correctly." Oh dear humour and sarcasm not available to you. if you had read the book you may understand my humorus use of it. still keep up the good work. Oh and it's about the diametric dif that women and men have on cirtain subjects. Didn't say it was my _iew did I. ha ha lol silly Billy | |||
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"I am finding more and more often that the guys I talk to on here and/or meet get jealous of other guys. I am a single female swinger, I don't consider myself better than anyone else, so why did I get a date cancelled tonight because someone thought I was 'two-timing' them because of a verification? There are so many more women out there guys. Don't restrict yourself to one! " Just got this myself. Had someone on my friends list but has recently removed me. The only reason I can see is that I went on a meet the other day and obviously put the verification on my profile. I could be wrong, I'm waiting for a reply asking why? | |||
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"Ohhh since i seem to have got drawn into the Wyrd/jem splice i will say my piece too. i am sorry if facts can seem like single men bashing,but i posted because i have had similar experiences over many years of swinging.In fact kev joked once swinging would be easy if single blokes would just stop falling for me! Strangely ,i am poly ,i am the last person who needs a lecture on the fact we have different attachments and commitments in our lives.Both kev and i have had long term relationhips with significant others during our marriage.This is not swinging. My relationship with my Master,who knows of my feelings for him,is not swinging When you meet someone you fucked once in chat ,they ask to meet again,you say no,and they accuse you of dumping them..is that nsa sex When someone repeatedly texts to find out why you wont meet again...is that nsa sex When someone tells you they cried when you said you will not meet again,is that nsa sex? i could go on,but the thing all these examples have in common is that they were men i met for a fuck on a swinging site.Once the deed was done,why believe it was anything more than a sha I'm buggered if I'm going to get drawn into this - not because of the women involved, but because I don't want to give an alibi to some of them me involved, but I'll say this. Confusing the gift of pleasure with a gesture of love is not exactly unknown amongst men and women. The trouble is I know of no reliable diagnostic that can be deployed in advance of the gift of pleasure. Maybe a questionair? lol Men are from mars and women are from Venus! lol Not really surprising is it! lol I'm startled that you can respond to what I said with that bollocks cliche about Mars and Venus.You may not be picking up the signals correctly. Oh dear humour and sarcasm not available to you. if you had read the book you may understand my humorus use of it. still keep up the good work. Oh and it's about the diametric dif that women and men have on cirtain subjects. Didn't say it was my _iew did I. ha ha lol silly Billy " I think someone who can't spell or punctuate has just tried to patronize me. That is very funny. | |||
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"It is obviously all my fault for being a single swinging woman. I should feel honoured that a couple of men wish to keep me to themselves and believe the way to my heart is to throw a tantrum. Please never believe that it is the domain of single men. Women are just as bad, and can be a dam sight more evil. I never do, but JJohn got me a bit cross blaming me for giving the guys mixed signals, so I was being facetious. Careful though. He'll be lecturing you next for giving women mixed signals, else why would they be behaving so evil? I dunno you can't offer an opinion or reason why something may be happening without the being acused of 'blame' it's your fault cause your sending out the wrong signals! Silly me yes can't be in any way your responsibility for multiple guys according to your comments for wanting a relationship after a meet. Shame we can't here from them as to what really happened after all this could be a total fabrication and started for the hell of it.... But I guess we'll never know. I shall repeat it for you I was not blaming but suggesting that these guys may have read more into the profile and your actions on the nights in Q Not completely impossible to believe...or am I just sexist? I think I know where I am in your eyes! So have you reported these guys unwanted attentions? Seems to me you should.... Any unwanted attention is distasteful especially if it's continuous or freaking you out! You don't have to listen to what I'm saying you dont have to believe it do as you will... Bored with your whinging to be honest.... Or am I be fascious " Reported, to whom,the gods of swinging? Does it occur to you that all my single meets were met in the same way and with the same criteria, so if a minority build a imaginary relationship and the majority do not then who is at fault? You also assume i was in any way bothered, why should i be? i simply posted in support of something i had personally seen happen. | |||
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"Ohhh since i seem to have got drawn into the Wyrd/jem splice i will say my piece too. i am sorry if facts can seem like single men bashing,but i posted because i have had similar experiences over many years of swinging.In fact kev joked once swinging would be easy if single blokes would just stop falling for me! Strangely ,i am poly ,i am the last person who needs a lecture on the fact we have different attachments and commitments in our lives.Both kev and i have had long term relationhips with significant others during our marriage.This is not swinging. My relationship with my Master,who knows of my feelings for him,is not swinging When you meet someone you fucked once in chat ,they ask to meet again,you say no,and they accuse you of dumping them..is that nsa sex When someone repeatedly texts to find out why you wont meet again...is that nsa sex When someone tells you they cried when you said you will not meet again,is that nsa sex? i could go on,but the thing all these examples have in common is that they were men i met for a fuck on a swinging site.Once the deed was done,why believe it was anything more than a sha I'm buggered if I'm going to get drawn into this - not because of the women involved, but because I don't want to give an alibi to some of them me involved, but I'll say this. Confusing the gift of pleasure with a gesture of love is not exactly unknown amongst men and women. The trouble is I know of no reliable diagnostic that can be deployed in advance of the gift of pleasure. Maybe a questionair? lol Men are from mars and women are from Venus! lol Not really surprising is it! lol I'm startled that you can respond to what I said with that bollocks cliche about Mars and Venus.You may not be picking up the signals correctly. Oh dear humour and sarcasm not available to you. if you had read the book you may understand my humorus use of it. still keep up the good work. Oh and it's about the diametric dif that women and men have on cirtain subjects. Didn't say it was my _iew did I. ha ha lol silly Billy I think someone who can't spell or punctuate has just tried to patronize me. That is very funny." He tries to patronize everyone,which is the most amusing part of this thread. | |||
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"no one has said it doesnt happen .just that jealousy has no place and no one has the entitlement to exspect anyone to be exclusive unless that has been agreed between both parties ! being new ,their own emotions ect ect is no excuse for just assumming someone is going to be an exclusive meet .we are all adults and know the score on a swing site new or not ! we are not responsible for others actions ! " Talking to a brick wall sexual,some want to lecture women,listening is just too much trouble. | |||
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"Ok bored now and before you ask replying on my blackberry so forgive any errors! The OP was asking about issues with jealousy as she has experienced this with at least 3 guys I say at least as this was the response given and she is fed up with it! So let's think; in the 'vanilla' world it is widely accepted that men and women have different _iews re sex and love, its also accepted that men do not handle emotions well and yes this is stereo typing and as a chap who has experienced what i believe to be a wide variety of emotions from the joy of birth of a child to the other end bereavement and keeping my own emotions in check while supporting others as they greave. I feel a little qualified to speak on my own behalf. Now my point is that if these individuals are new to this fab pass time or life style as some prefer so they may not be that familiar with the 'rules of engagement' they may be coming out of vanilla relationships or have issues with what they perceive as rejection. Now there is no excuse for foisting yourself on someone or jealousy in the swinging world, but it does happen doesn't it? Now if this happens once which is once to often you may think strange guy hope I dont meet Amy one else like him. I did make it clear. Opps this is the second time! Blimey! Another weird one! F***! Oh s h 1 T not a third! And so on; and let's take into account it's happened enough for the op to be sick of it. See profile. So what is the probabilty of this? What does it demonstrate/show? Poor choice of the people chosen? Pheromones? mixed or poorly judged emotions? Lack of experience of those picked? Those picked have lied about what they are seeking? Just nutters? Any I've left out? Probably! The point is and this is just a series of probabilities and any one or all or none might be possible reasons, of course we don't have their reasons to work with either. so the q was asked and I offered reasons so take what you will or don't, please yourself . And if it keeps happening you can be happy that it's nothing to do with you and it's all those dishonest nutty guys. This sounds like a study for Sydney uni entitled jealousy and swinging myth or fact and whose to blame? Oh yes someone has to be to blame don't they? I really couldn't give a flying f***' " Here's my problem with this; it's bollocks. What's the probability of something happening? Did you really ask that? There have been great studies done on how poor most people's assessment of probability is - Ben Goldacre writes about it regularly. The fact that an event repeats three times in sequence is not necessarily unusual, nor is it evidence for the proposition you've attempted. (When I try to explain this to trainees I use the coin toss example. If I toss a a balanced coin ten times, and it comes down heads each time, what is the probability of it coming down heads the eleventh time?) The idea that it is 'widely accepted' that men and women are emotionally different is one of those pieces of folk wisdom that is so nebulous it is meaningless. So all in all you've used some dodgy reasoning and some unsubstantiated ideas to suggest, in effect, that individuals with experience of meeting men who mistake NSA sex for a potential relationship are somehow contributing to that happening. Based on the evidence you've provided so far I'd suggest you're not qualified to make that suggestion. | |||
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"I am finding more and more often that the guys I talk to on here and/or meet get jealous of other guys. I am a single female swinger, I don't consider myself better than anyone else, so why did I get a date cancelled tonight because someone thought I was 'two-timing' them because of a verification? There are so many more women out there guys. Don't restrict yourself to one! " lol really, Jealousy of a swinger who erm, swings. That's just daft, Maybe they want to marry a stripper, but then object to their chosen profession. | |||
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"That's just daft, Maybe they want to marry a stripper, but then object to their chosen profession." strippings a profession?????- I've been doing it for free!!!!! | |||
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"I am finding more and more often that the guys I talk to on here and/or meet get jealous of other guys. I am a single female swinger, I don't consider myself better than anyone else, so why did I get a date cancelled tonight because someone thought I was 'two-timing' them because of a verification? There are so many more women out there guys. Don't restrict yourself to one! " Maybe you are just so perfect they cant bear to share you I dont believe for a minute they are restricting themselves, and I wouldnt lose any sleep over it. | |||
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"Oh yes someone has to be to blame don't they? I really couldn't give a flying f***' " And yet you just.....keep....replying, making sure that the blame is firmly on MY shoulders. I know your type, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the fact you are spreading the blame on the women speaks a lot about your attitude to single women swinging. Sorry bub - I'm here to stay and I am afraid I really could not give a cr*p about your 'opinion'. Just glad to know about it so I can make sure I never have to meet you. Forewarned is very much forearmed. | |||
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"Oh yes someone has to be to blame don't they? I really couldn't give a flying f***' And yet you just.....keep....replying, making sure that the blame is firmly on MY shoulders. I know your type, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the fact you are spreading the blame on the women speaks a lot about your attitude to single women swinging. Sorry bub - I'm here to stay and I am afraid I really could not give a cr*p about your 'opinion'. Just glad to know about it so I can make sure I never have to meet you. Forewarned is very much forearmed." My my the mere fact you see opinions as blame says heeps about your mentality towards men and an amazing self worth bordering on arrogance... You didn't really want to here opinions because if you read through mine you will clearly see and read that I say that the men could easily be lying about what they want when they contact you as just one of the possible reasons why so many have become jeleous. Perhaps it's that you've met so many that the numbers are increased automatically or you just keep picking liars... Still either way it's not your fault and I except that because you put forward such a strong argument and as I can't speak to them your version must be gospel. Good luck with your future meets... Oh and as far as I'm aware I have very successful meets with single ladies and I invite you to contact any of them on my veris. Bye bye happy swinging | |||
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"Ok bored now and before you ask replying on my blackberry so forgive any errors! The OP was asking about issues with jealousy as she has experienced this with at least 3 guys I say at least as this was the response given and she is fed up with it! So let's think; in the 'vanilla' world it is widely accepted that men and women have different _iews re sex and love, its also accepted that men do not handle emotions well and yes this is stereo typing and as a chap who has experienced what i believe to be a wide variety of emotions from the joy of birth of a child to the other end bereavement and keeping my own emotions in check while supporting others as they greave. I feel a little qualified to speak on my own behalf. Now my point is that if these individuals are new to this fab pass time or life style as some prefer so they may not be that familiar with the 'rules of engagement' they may be coming out of vanilla relationships or have issues with what they perceive as rejection. Now there is no excuse for foisting yourself on someone or jealousy in the swinging world, but it does happen doesn't it? Now if this happens once which is once to often you may think strange guy hope I dont meet Amy one else like him. I did make it clear. Opps this is the second time! Blimey! Another weird one! F***! Oh s h 1 T not a third! And so on; and let's take into account it's happened enough for the op to be sick of it. See profile. So what is the probabilty of this? What does it demonstrate/show? Poor choice of the people chosen? Pheromones? mixed or poorly judged emotions? Lack of experience of those picked? Those picked have lied about what they are seeking? Just nutters? Any I've left out? Probably! The point is and this is just a series of probabilities and any one or all or none might be possible reasons, of course we don't have their reasons to work with either. so the q was asked and I offered reasons so take what you will or don't, please yourself . And if it keeps happening you can be happy that Lit's nothing to do with you and it's all those dishonest nutty guys This sounds like a study for Sydney uni entitled jealousy and swinging myth or fact and whose to blame? Oh yes someone has to be to blame don't they? I really couldn't give a flying f***' Here's my problem with this; it's bollocks. What's the probability of something happening? Did you really ask that? There have been great studies done on how poor most people's assessment of probability is - Ben Goldacre writes about it regularly. The fact that an event repeats three times in sequence is not necessarily unusual, nor is it evidence for the proposition you've attempted. (When I try to explain this to trainees I use the coin toss example. If I toss a a balanced coin ten times, and it comes down heads each time, what is the probability of it coming down heads the eleventh time?) The idea that it is 'widely accepted' that men and women are emotionally different is one of those Lpieces of folk wisdom that is so nebulous it is meaningless. So all in all you've used some dodgy reasoning and some unsubstantiated ideas to suggest, ineffect, that individuals with experience of meeting men who mistake NSA sex for a potential relationship are somehow contributing to that happening. Based on the evidence you'veprovided so far I'd suggest you're not qualified to make that suggestion." Poor trainees if that's the prof response you use with them when they disagree I bet they daren't! The coin toss only good for deciding sorting events! Ha ha what a week argument! Let me think two options heads or tails odds reducing. Now what if we do this on a suffice other than flat ie grass? Might land on it's edge? Another possibility.. But to compare a coin toss with something as complex as human thought process seems incredible...what relevance does it have when someone sets out to lie to others or themselves? All I have proffered is options. I haven't at any time said that blame is down to the op exclusively but that it may be a factor why it happens so often....however if you want to continue to play galahad please do... I won't be loosing sleep over it and it just continues to show how people really shouldn't use forums if they are not open to different points of _iew...you don't have to agree but it helps not to have a closed mind otherwise how would you gain knowledge to pass on to your trainees. | |||
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"dont know why anyone would get so heated over such a thing. if you behave in a sensible honest way and guys behave badly its a good thing to find out that they are unbalanced and set them free. single fems arent short of meets im sure so just a minor inconvenience. if you think that maybe you are giving out the wrong signals then maybe its something for you to think about... only you really know so know one else can really give an accurate opinion. " Here here! | |||
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"I dont understand why it's a problem if somebody is married etc. it's all about swinging, having fun, and lets face it sex! If I get on with a person then I will meet him, although am pretty fussy so havent met loads of guys and always insist on a social. Am not that desperate I will meet any tom dick or harry. I dont care whether he's married or not,am not looking to have an emotional relationship with him. I agree though some guys are timewasters and talk the talk but then come up with an excuse why they cant meet. Am new to the scene but am learning about picture collectors etc. and have started to get harsh by taking guys off my friends list if they're not going to meet. " Tee hee well the reason I didn't meet married men is...they don't meet, usually your playtime coincides with wife's trip to Asda or little Johnny's football practise! There are sooooooooooo many single men to play with. In four years never had a timewaster or no show and the type of man I like is erm different! | |||
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" The coin toss only good for deciding sorting events! Ha ha what a week argument! Let me think two options heads or tails odds reducing. Now what if we do this on a suffice other than flat ie grass? Might land on it's edge? Another possibility.. But to compare a coin toss with something as complex as human thought process seems incredible...what relevance does it have when someone sets out to lie to others or themselves? All I have proffered is options. I haven't at any time said that blame is down to the op exclusively but that it may be a factor why it happens so often....however if you want to continue to play galahad please do... I won't be loosing sleep over it and it just continues to show how people really shouldn't use forums if they are not open to different points of _iew...you don't have to agree but it helps not to have a closed mind otherwise how would you gain knowledge to pass on to your trainees. " The only person who has got heated here is you,when women dared to disagree with you. i suggest you study some probability theory before you criticize a perfectly sensible reply,u assumed that 3 bad examples meant i chose my meets badly without knowing what size of sample group i was using.You chose to ignore my post where i explained they were a minority,whose behavior was most likey explained by their own hang ups . Read more,mock less, it might make you a nicer person. | |||
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"I am finding more and more often that the guys I talk to on here and/or meet get jealous of other guys. I am a single female swinger, I don't consider myself better than anyone else, so why did I get a date cancelled tonight because someone thought I was 'two-timing' them because of a verification? There are so many more women out there guys. Don't restrict yourself to one! " Had this scenario more than once and it annoys the hell out of me. Yet you try telling him he cant shag anyone else and oh nooooo. Double standards all the time. The last one to do this , i met at chams. two yrs ago. He could shag anyone but woe betide me if i wanted to. He gone now | |||
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"I disagree with the comment we're to blame if someone gets jealous! We are not responsible for the actions of others. The mere fact we're on a swinging site instead of eHarmony means we're not looking for a soulmate. If some get confused it's their problem: first sign and I'd simply severe contact: and I have done! I don't understand why this thread got so heated! Madchick excellent post was ignored in order to feed the trolls! " so was mine and I said it before her, but cos I'm a lookatmetype i'm posting mine again... theresa variety of types of swingers, some just cant obvioulsy leave the emotion aside when people get more intimate with others or have meets with someone before thay meet them etc etc etc, please dont start this becoming a single mans issue again-every sex is guilty of it on here,and god forbid even cpls have a jealousy thing going for them at times, then theres the people who want to become almost polygamists-so what if some of us want that next shag and move on???-bloody better than someone taking the hump at u for not wanting anything more than the sexual fun.I have a nice network of people I believe feel the same, we arent in eachothers daily lives, we dont criticise each others meets or rampantness.I'd like someone to actually determine what a "real" swinger is because the lines have been blurred for a long time, we have pockets of this pockets of that and pockets of shit i dont want on my dorrstep. I'm a self admitting bed knotcher, i want fun, when i'm ready for more I will decide what I'am, regardless of anyone elses _iews. | |||
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"I disagree with the comment we're to blame if someone gets jealous! We are not responsible for the actions of others. The mere fact we're on a swinging site instead of eHarmony means we're not looking for a soulmate. If some get confused it's their problem: first sign and I'd simply severe contact: and I have done! I don't understand why this thread got so heated! Madchick excellent post was ignored in order to feed the trolls! so was mine and I said it before her, but cos I'm a lookatmetype i'm posting mine again... theresa variety of types of swingers, some just cant obvioulsy leave the emotion aside when people get more intimate with others or have meets with someone before thay meet them etc etc etc, please dont start this becoming a single mans issue again-every sex is guilty of it on here,and god forbid even cpls have a jealousy thing going for them at times, then theres the people who want to become almost polygamists-so what if some of us want that next shag and move on???-bloody better than someone taking the hump at u for not wanting anything more than the sexual fun.I have a nice network of people I believe feel the same, we arent in eachothers daily lives, we dont criticise each others meets or rampantness.I'd like someone to actually determine what a "real" swinger is because the lines have been blurred for a long time, we have pockets of this pockets of that and pockets of shit i dont want on my dorrstep. I'm a self admitting bed knotcher, i want fun, when i'm ready for more I will decide what I'am, regardless of anyone elses _iews." well said and admire your honesty, shane there arent more like you. problem is there is a small clquey circle on here who seem to think they are some sort of gurus on swinging and if your_iews dont match yours they get all sarcy and shitty (yes you know who you are. This forum is for all members and they are ALL entitled to their own personal _iews so if you dont like it dont answer but dont make it personal. all of us everyday people find all _iews of interest so get off their case !! | |||
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"I disagree with the comment we're to blame if someone gets jealous! We are not responsible for the actions of others. The mere fact we're on a swinging site instead of eHarmony means we're not looking for a soulmate. If some get confused it's their problem: first sign and I'd simply severe contact: and I have done! I don't understand why this thread got so heated! Madchick excellent post was ignored in order to feed the trolls! so was mine and I said it before her, but cos I'm a lookatmetype i'm posting mine again... theresa variety of types of swingers, some just cant obvioulsy leave the emotion aside when people get more intimate with others or have meets with someone before thay meet them etc etc etc, please dont start this becoming a single mans issue again-every sex is guilty of it on here,and god forbid even cpls have a jealousy thing going for them at times, then theres the people who want to become almost polygamists-so what if some of us want that next shag and move on???-bloody better than someone taking the hump at u for not wanting anything more than the sexual fun.I have a nice network of people I believe feel the same, we arent in eachothers daily lives, we dont criticise each others meets or rampantness.I'd like someone to actually determine what a "real" swinger is because the lines have been blurred for a long time, we have pockets of this pockets of that and pockets of shit i dont want on my dorrstep. I'm a self admitting bed knotcher, i want fun, when i'm ready for more I will decide what I'am, regardless of anyone elses _iews." well according to research on the web swinging developed from american air force pilots being sent overseas and agreeing to look after one anothers partners...seems a bit iffy and then it led to the wife swapping seventies! you know the keys in a bowl brigade.. generally its accepted in the research that you have to be a couple...but again lines are blurred as of course singles are very heavily involved...well thats what I've discovered but as always take with a pinch of salt | |||
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"well said and admire your honesty, shane there arent more like you. problem is there is a small clquey circle on here who seem to think they are some sort of gurus on swinging and if your_iews dont match yours they get all sarcy and shitty (yes you know who you are. This forum is for all members and they are ALL entitled to their own personal _iews so if you dont like it dont answer but dont make it personal. all of us everyday people find all _iews of interest so get off their case !!" I was just trying to raise the point I said it before the others lol...spat ma dummy when i heard someone else pointed out that madceltic said it first..waaaahhhhhhh!! | |||
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"well said and admire your honesty, shane there arent more like you. problem is there is a small clquey circle on here who seem to think they are some sort of gurus on swinging and if your_iews dont match yours they get all sarcy and shitty (yes you know who you are. This forum is for all members and they are ALL entitled to their own personal _iews so if you dont like it dont answer but dont make it personal. all of us everyday people find all _iews of interest so get off their case !! I was just trying to raise the point I said it before the others lol...spat ma dummy when i heard someone else pointed out that madceltic said it first..waaaahhhhhhh!!" no dont retract, you were 100% right. well done . if u have a _iew then express it . free speech and all that (theres not enough of it ) thought your post was really good !! | |||
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" The coin toss only good for deciding sorting events! Ha ha what a week argument! Let me think two options heads or tails odds reducing. Now what if we do this on a suffice other than flat ie grass? Might land on it's edge? Another possibility.. But to compare a coin toss with something as complex as human thought process seems incredible...what relevance does it have when someone sets out to lie to others or themselves? All I have proffered is options. I haven't at any time said that blame is down to the op exclusively but that it may be a factor why it happens so often....however if you want to continue to play galahad please do... I won't be loosing sleep over it and it just continues to show how people really shouldn't use forums if they are not open to different points of _iew...you don't have to agree but it helps not to have a closed mind otherwise how would you gain knowledge to pass on to your trainees. The only person who has got heated here is you,when women dared to disagree with you. i suggest you study some probability theory before you criticize a perfectly sensible reply,u assumed that 3 bad examples meant i chose my meets badly without knowing what size of sample group i was using.You chose to ignore my post where i explained they were a minority,whose behavior was most likey explained by their own hang ups . Read more,mock less, it might make you a nicer person." here we go again...i simply suggested ita a possibility! that does not suggest blame..getting all arsy because some one makes a suggestion makes me think theres far more to this than meets the eye...but again thats my opinion which was offered in good faith. and once again where are the guys in questions _iews re this...so totally one sided...get in touch with them and let them have their say...then maybe an even more balanced _iew can be reached.. if you don't like what people have to say dont post. | |||
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"I disagree with the comment we're to blame if someone gets jealous! We are not responsible for the actions of others. The mere fact we're on a swinging site instead of eHarmony means we're not looking for a soulmate. If some get confused it's their problem: first sign and I'd simply severe contact: and I have done! I don't understand why this thread got so heated! Madchick excellent post was ignored in order to feed the trolls! " read and tell me where it say "you're to blame and its all your fault" | |||
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"When two people interact whatever happens is a result of that interaction, therefore they must both be responsible for whatever the result of that interaction is Take it easy boys and girls " so I'm not alone in thinking this is possible | |||
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"well said and admire your honesty, shane there arent more like you. problem is there is a small clquey circle on here who seem to think they are some sort of gurus on swinging and if your_iews dont match yours they get all sarcy and shitty (yes you know who you are. This forum is for all members and they are ALL entitled to their own personal _iews so if you dont like it dont answer but dont make it personal. all of us everyday people find all _iews of interest so get off their case !! I was just trying to raise the point I said it before the others lol...spat ma dummy when i heard someone else pointed out that madceltic said it first..waaaahhhhhhh!! no dont retract, you were 100% right. well done . if u have a _iew then express it . free speech and all that (theres not enough of it ) thought your post was really good !!" There isn't any free speech on here...when I said I didn't think having sex in car parks was classy it seemed to have been misinerpreted as kill all the babies. | |||
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"When two people interact whatever happens is a result of that interaction, therefore they must both be responsible for whatever the result of that interaction is Take it easy boys and girls so I'm not alone in thinking this is possible" "You are not alone, for I am here with you......dah dah dah" | |||
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" What is more laughable with "the clique" is that they put something like "a polite response to our emails would be appreciated, even if it's a no" Perhaps they should practise what they preach, it seems they want it all their way. " If you are referring to the APPARENT forum 'clique', then I would say that not one of them would ever put "a polit response to our emails would be appreciated"...... They all know better. But then, there is NO clique. Just people who have met through socials or who interact, on a daily basis, on here. Those that say 'clique' may be said to be those that are desperate to be in the circle of friends but don't have the guts to join in or go to a social and get themselves known. | |||
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" What is more laughable with "the clique" is that they put something like "a polite response to our emails would be appreciated, even if it's a no" Perhaps they should practise what they preach, it seems they want it all their way. If you are referring to the APPARENT forum 'clique', then I would say that not one of them would ever put "a polit response to our emails would be appreciated"...... They all know better. But then, there is NO clique. Just people who have met through socials or who interact, on a daily basis, on here. Those that say 'clique' may be said to be those that are desperate to be in the circle of friends but don't have the guts to join in or go to a social and get themselves known." I have to agree with you _adchick. This so called 'clique' is none existent... it's all about perception. If someone thinks they are on the 'outside' but would like to be on the 'inside' then they should make an effort, come and say hi and let the regulars get to know them..... I wouldn't dream of giving someone I don't know half as much as abuse (friendly) I give to some of the regulars on here.... I'd be too scared of them taking offence | |||
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"I have to agree with you _adchick. This so called 'clique' is none existent... it's all about perception. If someone thinks they are on the 'outside' but would like to be on the 'inside' then they should make an effort, come and say hi and let the regulars get to know them..... I wouldn't dream of giving someone I don't know half as much as abuse (friendly) I give to some of the regulars on here.... I'd be too scared of them taking offence " I fancy some of the "clique", I barely read their responses though...after all am no after their minds lol | |||
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"Blimey, this post still going?? I have actually been ejected from one clique (not forum by the way. Real life.) However there are plenty more so move over, I'm coming through! " Can i be in your clique ? Never sure why ppl create a fictional clique out of a group of people who happen to post in the same forum.But if it exists it's the worlds most open since i have only been posting for 4 months or so and it seems from the comments am apparently a member. | |||
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"Blimey, this post still going?? I have actually been ejected from one clique (not forum by the way. Real life.) However there are plenty more so move over, I'm coming through! Can i be in your clique ? " I was going to ask to be in yours! This is awkward! I am used to chatting with groups on forums who obviously know each other so don't find it cliquey on here. Nervous as hell when I started posting though! | |||
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