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Swingers who don't kiss - do you still find sex passionate?

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

There have been threads about kissing and whether you do or don't and the reasons for that choice already so this one is hopefully a little different

Probably been some about this topic too in the past but....

For those of you who *don't* kiss, do you find you can still have passionate sex with 'strangers' you meet?

Personally we always find it rather clinical with the non-kissers, but that's not to say it isn't still enjoyable. Just not passionate.

xxxxx

ju & rich

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By *nJ_NW_cplCouple
over a year ago

wirral

We don’t really understand the no kissing thing!!! It’s OK to lick my pussy but don’t kiss me or its OK to suck my cock but no kissing. We both think kissing is part of having sex, we have never actually come across anyone who has said kissing was off the agenda but if we did then we would, as always, uphold the others decision and make our decision as to weather or not we wished to play, this may well depend if we have reached the point of no return lol

P&J

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people reserve kissing only for their loved one and think its more intimate.

The time I have been with a couple they did not want kissing and I did find it a bit weird. It was getting passionate and you automatically want to kiss but have to hold back. So yes I think it does lack something without kissing.

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By *resh freddieMan
over a year ago

Penistone

Got to say it is a bit odd to blow a bloke but not kiss him. If you get to that passion stage and things get hot i would possibly wonder what was going on if someone didn't return a kiss. Not sure on this as i have yet to encounter the situation. do a lot of people not kiss then?

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester

people who dont want to kiss are insecure in their 'relationships'..

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester

..oh, and we NEVER meet 'no-kissers'. ever.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"people who dont want to kiss are insecure in their 'relationships'.."

Now I don't normally disagree with you but......

WTF are you on about.

We don't kiss anyone else and Mr Mad put that rule in place and I agreed quite happily and we have an extremely secure relationship.

We don't find sex clinical without kissing because to us, swinging is about sex and only sex with fun.

To us, kissing is something we keep for ourselves as we both find it intimate and emotional. We don't swing to get emotional with anyone else, so therefore, we don't feel the need to kiss anyone else.

Each to their own but that was a rather sweeping statement.

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling


"people who dont want to kiss are insecure in their 'relationships'..

Now I don't normally disagree with you but......

WTF are you on about.

We don't kiss anyone else and Mr Mad put that rule in place and I agreed quite happily and we have an extremely secure relationship.

We don't find sex clinical without kissing because to us, swinging is about sex and only sex with fun.

To us, kissing is something we keep for ourselves as we both find it intimate and emotional. We don't swing to get emotional with anyone else, so therefore, we don't feel the need to kiss anyone else.

Each to their own but that was a rather sweeping statement."

totally agree with you there _adchick!

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester

well one of must be wrong...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suppose kissing is more a loving and tender thing than the swinging rampant sex, but I meet single guys ( i presume their single lol) and we always start with kissing and very enjoyable it is, but I can understand if you go with couples and they do not wish to kiss because that is something that is a loving part of their relationship, i mean sex is sex but making love is totally different. Well thats my twopence worth anyway lol

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"well one of must be wrong..."

I don't think anyone is wrong babe.

At the end of the day, it's purely about choice.

Alot of couples keep something for themselves, be it DP, full swing, fisting or kissing (just examples)

Some couples open everything up when swinging but for US, it's important to keep something for ourselves.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"I suppose kissing is more a loving and tender thing than the swinging rampant sex, but I meet single guys ( i presume their single lol) and we always start with kissing and very enjoyable it is, but I can understand if you go with couples and they do not wish to kiss because that is something that is a loving part of their relationship, i mean sex is sex but making love is totally different. Well thats my twopence worth anyway lol "

Well said Kitten.......

Mind you, I never used to kiss single guys when I was single......

Go figure!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well one of must be wrong..."
I don't think either of you are wrong, again, it comes down to prsonal choice.

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"...Mr Mad put that rule in place.... "

that sort of says it all really..

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

i agree theres no right or wrong just personal choice, i go with the flow and have kissed, but prefer kissing to be with my hubby as i think it is more intimate and loving, im swinging for the sexual pleasure and it can be passionate without the kissing as well!!!! altho i do like to kiss the girls lol!!!!!

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"...Mr Mad put that rule in place....

that sort of says it all really.. "

I've not fallen out with you two yet, but I will do if you don't read the full post.

Mr Mad just doesn't like kissing anyone else. There's nothing wrong with that and I happily agree.

It's what WE keep for ourselves, not HIM, but WE

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester

you kiss girls but not boys? i dont understand that at all. can you explain?

making tea now, so we reply after that..

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

We were wondering not so much about why peoples make those choices, that topic was done to death the other week lol, but more whether the no kissing is something of a passion killer.

We personally find it a more clinical affair with those we meet who don't kiss but maybe that's just us.

Note that 'no kissing' won't stop us meeting couples we fancy, we still find the sex enjoyable as we said, so yes it is stil 'fun' sex, it just loses the 'passion' element fo us or at least it seems that way.

Maddie you've said several times on forum you were swinging before you met Mr Mad, so you may be one of those best placed to comment, assuming you didn't have a no kissing rule before and have played the scene both ways in your time.

xxx

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

sorry you already say you didn't kiss single guys... you posted while we were typing the last one

xx

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"We were wondering not so much about why peoples make those choices, that topic was done to death the other week lol, but more whether the no kissing is something of a passion killer.

We personally find it a more clinical affair with those we meet who don't kiss but maybe that's just us.

Note that 'no kissing' won't stop us meeting couples we fancy, we still find the sex enjoyable as we said, so yes it is stil 'fun' sex, it just loses the 'passion' element fo us or at least it seems that way.

Maddie you've said several times on forum you were swinging before you met Mr Mad, so you may be one of those best placed to comment, assuming you didn't have a no kissing rule before and have played the scene both ways in your time.

xxx

"

To be honest, it was rare I kissed a male when swinging when I was single.

I've always equated kissing with emotion and when I was swinging single, I didn't want emotion, just sex.

When I did kiss when single, it was ok, that was about it. I've never thought much about it. Kissing is kissing, swinging is sex.

Black and white maybe, but thats me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OOOO I LOVE SNOGGING yes i love kissing xx I ask before i meet if thay like kissing as its a big part nibbling kissing and snoging .. JO XXX nothing like a good snog too get thing started ,lol xx

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling


"you kiss girls but not boys? i dont understand that at all. can you explain?

making tea now, so we reply after that..

i didnt say i dont kiss boys, i have done,probably will again, but prefer doing it with hubby!

dont see whats not to understand

i was simply agreeing with _adchick that just because couples dont kiss doesnt mean they are insecure in their relationship! its personal choice!

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We kiss but totally understand where maddie is coming from. For us it's part of swinging but it still means more kissing paul than anyone else. At the end of the day there's no blueprint to swinging it's all about preferences and people's right to express them. Your alright by us maddie hun lol debs xxx

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"We kiss but totally understand where maddie is coming from. For us it's part of swinging but it still means more kissing paul than anyone else. At the end of the day there's no blueprint to swinging it's all about preferences and people's right to express them. Your alright by us maddie hun lol debs xxx "

Thanks gorgeous.

Trouble is, some seem to think I'm an insecure, clinical old bitch.

However, you know me and have met me......and I think you know me better.

In my relationship, its WE. When I was single it was about ME. I've never done anything I haven't wanted to do. Kissing with someone who isn't emotionally involved with me isn't something I had to do, so I generally didn't bother.

By the way Debs...... luvs you too babes.

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

We equate kissing, at least the way we do it with couples we meet, with lust.

Is lust an emotion? Not sure, more of a desire we would say.

If lust = passion then that is probably what we meant was lost with couple we meet who don't kiss, so that just leaves sex, which of course is very nice

Though we kiss and snog a lot of people we meet, Is it surprising than to the 'non-kissers' that we've never become emotionally attached to any of them, other than in a warm friendship sort of way with some we have met regularly

So we would say you can snog people to your hearts content, without becomeing emotionally involved.

xxxxx

PS - the loving way we kiss each other, not during sex but in tender shared moments, now that we would say is emotional

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well said me lovely .... feel the love lol xxx

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By *nJ_NW_cplCouple
over a year ago

wirral

Hey _adchick just read your profile and don’t think the word insecure could be aimed at you. We don’t understand how people can shag each other but not kiss, we also can’t understand quantum physics even after reading Stephen Hawkins so not understanding doesn’t mean we disagree. If we were all the same this would be a very boring place to be and none of us would like that, have fun,

P&J

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By *eznhannahCouple
over a year ago

leeds

OMG have just realised we are not secure in our relationship, i think we might call it a day everything was going fine been swinging four years meeting wonderfull people having wonderfull time as a non kissing couple, thank god _acha are here to tell us, what would we have done,

there is a famouse quote which really is apt here

better staying quiet and have people think your a fool, than to open ones gob and remove all doubt

to the more serious posters is about choice we do what makes us happy and as long as we dont make any one unhappy were happy with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well i dont think i could swing if i couldnt kiss, it gets me going, turns me and makes the juices flow.

mmmmwhahhhhhhhhh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

personally and I can only comment for me. I could not have sex with someone without kissing them, I adore kissing and get off on it,so yes it would be less passionate and so would not appeal.

For those who swing and dont kiss, their choice, no different to any other preferences people have within swinging.

My choice to kiss, their choice not too.

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

i do like a good snog to get the juices flowing, and snogging my husband certainly gets the night off to a good start!!!! like _eznhannah said if your having fun and no one is getting hurt then its all good!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We dont kiss either,again nothing to do with insecurity its just something important for us to keep for us.

To answer the question though, no I dont feel its taken any passion from our swinging, there are so many other things to enjoy that, for us its never been an issue, and, nobodys ever told us it was either. xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find kissing is very erotic and really does get me in the mood. Had a meet where the couple didn't want to do it and it certainly lacked something because of it. (still managed to enjoy it though!)

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By *eznhannahCouple
over a year ago

leeds


"We dont kiss either,again nothing to do with insecurity its just something important for us to keep for us.

To answer the question though, no I dont feel its taken any passion from our swinging, there are so many other things to enjoy that, for us its never been an issue, and, nobodys ever told us it was either. xx "

agree completly

it has just never arisen, we use clubs a lot as it is hard for us to organise meets due to work comitments and we just go spur of the moment most of the time, and it just has never been a problem, cant say if it takes any thing away from the experience as we have just never done it,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we find its a passion killer yes, we didnt used to kiss in meets and while we did enjoy the meets they are better since kissing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There have been threads about kissing and whether you do or don't and the reasons for that choice already so this one is hopefully a little different

Probably been some about this topic too in the past but....

For those of you who *don't* kiss, do you find you can still have passionate sex with 'strangers' you meet?

Personally we always find it rather clinical with the non-kissers, but that's not to say it isn't still enjoyable. Just not passionate.

xxxxx

ju & rich

"

just not passionate?????... try imagination.. sometimes its better than kissing some people ! hahahah.. oh yea scott by the way...

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"...

there is a famouse quote which really is apt here

better staying quiet and have people think your a fool, than to open ones gob and remove all doubt.."

there is also another famous quote...

i dont care.

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

@hornycouple

Out of interest what made you change you minds about kissing?

Did your original reason for the no kissing rule no longer apply, or did you just not kiss simply because you were told that's the way swinging should be done - which is why at first we only did same room

xxx

j&r

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry but what bollocks to infere that anyone who does NOT kiss are insecure in their realationship.

We DO kiss and we do find the no kissing rule a little limiting,and so really dont meet none kissers for physical contact

Having said that we do know several couples as freinds that dont kiss and not one of them are insecure in their realationships

At the end of the day you do exactly what you as a couple want to do

You dissuss between yourselves what you want to do

You take into account what both partners as indivduals want to do

Then you compile your list of dos and donts

I would actually say that that pointed to a very secure and loving realationship if anything!

Craig

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We equate kissing, at least the way we do it with couples we meet, with lust.

Is lust an emotion? Not sure, more of a desire we would say.

If lust = passion then that is probably what we meant was lost with couple we meet who don't kiss, so that just leaves sex, which of course is very nice

Though we kiss and snog a lot of people we meet, Is it surprising than to the 'non-kissers' that we've never become emotionally attached to any of them, other than in a warm friendship sort of way with some we have met regularly

So we would say you can snog people to your hearts content, without becomeing emotionally involved.

xxxxx

PS - the loving way we kiss each other, not during sex but in tender shared moments, now that we would say is emotional

"

We agree,especially with the PS.Its how you kiss someone and the emotion thats in your heart at the time that matters.

We will not meet non kissers,Trace enjoys a good snog and we both see it as a prelude to and part and parcel of swinging.

We do know some couples couples were the woman will happily kiss/snog another fem but not another guy.

Can't understand that one,unless it's that her guy doesn't see that as a threat.

XXXX

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"

We do know some couples couples were the woman will happily kiss/snog another fem but not another guy.

Can't understand that one,unless it's that her guy doesn't see that as a threat.

XXXX"

nail, hit, head.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We do know some couples couples were the woman will happily kiss/snog another fem but not another guy.

Can't understand that one,unless it's that her guy doesn't see that as a threat.

XXXX

nail, hit, head."

Or maybe she just doesnt want to kiss the guy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

reading this post have to say we do enjoy kissing when playing ..gets the juices flowing everytime n we wudnt meet anyone who wudnt kiss us back

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"reading this post have to say we do enjoy kissing when playing ..gets the juices flowing everytime n we wudnt meet anyone who wudnt kiss us back"

fancy a meet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We do know some couples couples were the woman will happily kiss/snog another fem but not another guy.

Can't understand that one,unless it's that her guy doesn't see that as a threat.

XXXX

nail, hit, head.

Or maybe she just doesnt want to kiss the guy?"

We're talking about any guy on any meet, not just one certain individual.

XXXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only a suggestion but maybe its not that the male half of the couple doesnt like his partner kissing other guys, but, that she doesnt want to kiss other guys for some reason. xx

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over a year ago


"Only a suggestion but maybe its not that the male half of the couple doesnt like his partner kissing other guys, but, that she doesnt want to kiss other guys for some reason. xx"

No,this is an agreement that they have between them,that fem/fem is O.K but not fem/male.

We've seen this several times on past forums.

As it is quite often a rule instigated by the male,it sometimes makes us wonder about the reasons behind it.

Does it mean his partner can display 'emotion' or 'passion' to another woman but not to a guy?

XXXX

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"As it is quite often a rule instigated by the male,it sometimes makes us wonder about the reasons behind it.

"

Thats a piss poor assumption. Or do you have proof to back that up?

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

It would seem safe to assume that what Trace&Ric said must be the true reason behind the 'only kissing between girls' rule in some cases at least

xxx

j&

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry but what bollocks to infere that anyone who does NOT kiss are insecure in their realationship.

We DO kiss and we do find the no kissing rule a little limiting,and so really dont meet none kissers for physical contact

Having said that we do know several couples as freinds that dont kiss and not one of them are insecure in their realationships

At the end of the day you do exactly what you as a couple want to do

You dissuss between yourselves what you want to do

You take into account what both partners as indivduals want to do

Then you compile your list of dos and donts

I would actually say that that pointed to a very secure and loving realationship if anything!

Craig

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What are these words you talk of Kissing and sex?????

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

eh???????

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"It would seem safe to assume that what Trace&Ric said must be the true reason behind the 'only kissing between girls' rule in some cases at least

xxx

j&"

Why must it?

Every couple I know who have a no kissing rule in place except woman on women...... it's the woman who's put the rule into place or the couple as just that..... a couple.

Considering the unproven shite is spewing from those that do kiss, I'd say its coming across as just that, unproven shite.

I have more swinging friends who don't kiss that who do and not one of the women has ever said that it;s the man who makes the rules.

Go figure that out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would seem safe to assume that what Trace&Ric said must be the true reason behind the 'only kissing between girls' rule in some cases at least

xxx

j&

Why must it?

Every couple I know who have a no kissing rule in place except woman on women...... it's the woman who's put the rule into place or the couple as just that..... a couple.

Considering the unproven shite is spewing from those that do kiss, I'd say its coming across as just that, unproven shite.

I have more swinging friends who don't kiss that who do and not one of the women has ever said that it;s the man who makes the rules.

Go figure that out.

"

Swinging rules between couples are exactly that

No one has a right to argue that point

Some like different things and different ways

Does not make it wrong

There are no rights and wrongs in swinging only choices

We are all different but we all share a common goal

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

The reason it seems safe to assume - in *some* cases - is that

1. the premise is so plausible....

2. there are such a lot of non kissing swingers....

3. we all know there are some swingers around with jealousy issues....

that therefore to say this point of Rics is not true in at least *some cases* is really to be in denial of the possibilities. So we still feel safe to assume it is sometimes true

xxx

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"The reason it seems safe to assume - in *some* cases - is that

1. the premise is so plausible....

2. there are such a lot of non kissing swingers....

3. we all know there are some swingers around with jealousy issues....

that therefore to say this point of Rics is not true in at least *some cases* is really to be in denial of the possibilities. So we still feel safe to assume it is sometimes true

xxx"

On your 'safe to assume' soapbox, I would also say it's safe to assume that...(and this is just for the only girl on girl kissing is allowed)...

Some swingers won't kiss cus the other bloke has hallitosis and the wife doesn't.

The other couple are good fun but the bloke has a face like a bag of spanners, so he's ok for sex but not kissing.

The other couple are 20 years older than their picture but the other couple are in the right frame of mind for a sympathy shag but not to suck grandad's falsies out.

The couple have provided a picture of her but not of him. There is no way a rampant munster would kiss him but she's ok so they are told it's woman on woman only.

The non-kissers are actually kissers but prefer not to say that until they've actually met the other couple to make sure they don't look like their faces have been run over by a bus.

etc. etc.

Extreme I know but I'm feeling particularly peeved by the high and mighty attitude to this thread by those that 'appear' to think they might be better or more genuine swingers than those of us that don't kiss.

If you can't back up your assumptions with hard facts......I wouldn't bother. After all, they are just that, ASSUMPTIONS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As it is quite often a rule instigated by the male,it sometimes makes us wonder about the reasons behind it.

Thats a piss poor assumption. Or do you have proof to back that up?

"

We haven't met many swinging couples who don't kiss. However,we met two couples who had that rule when we used to visit La Chambre.

Strangely enough, both women said they weren't that bothered either way but their partner wasn't comfortable about it.

Although,as usual,neither male minded their partner kissing other fems.

We also have a friend who is an escort,her partner is happy for her to do the job but wouldn't be happy if he knew she kissed a client.

We know several adult/porn actresses who's partners won't permit them to kiss their male co-stars but once again have no problem with them kissing female performers.

We'd appreciate someone explaining the difference.

XXXX

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"Sorry but what bollocks to infere that anyone who does NOT kiss......"

did you post that again because you got ignored?

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

Yes but from the soapbox here lol we honestly believe that the things you just suggested are also sometimes true (and a few gave us a good laugh too)

The mental image of the old guy who took his false teeth out at the last party we attended and placed them on the bedside cabinet just came flooding back

xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry but what bollocks to infere that anyone who does NOT kiss......

did you post that again because you got ignored?

"

No im not as shallow as you

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester

yeah, because you know me soo well..

you just showed your true colours.

congrats.

x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"yeah, because you know me soo well..

you just showed your true colours.

congrats.

x"

IDont get into slanging matches with children as for not knowing you, your posts say all i need to know

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"yeah, because you know me soo well..

you just showed your true colours.

congrats.

x

IDont get into slanging matches with children as for not knowing you, your posts say all i need to know"

we hardly post on here because of people like you.

anything else..?

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

Some can have sex without love.....some can have sex without being able to see/hear/make sounds....some can have sex without knowing the name of their sex partner....

surely some can have sex without kissing and still be passionate...

If we can separate sex from love....why can't we separate kiss from sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"yeah, because you know me soo well..

you just showed your true colours.

congrats.

x

IDont get into slanging matches with children as for not knowing you, your posts say all i need to know

we hardly post on here because of people like you.

anything else..?"

Funny that cause a lot stopped posting because of you lol

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"yeah, because you know me soo well..

you just showed your true colours.

congrats.

x

IDont get into slanging matches with children as for not knowing you, your posts say all i need to know

we hardly post on here because of people like you.

anything else..?

Funny that cause a lot stopped posting because of you lol"

you just made that up.

how embarassing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"[Removed by poster at 18/06/09 23:40:04]"

3rd time lucky?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"yeah, because you know me soo well..

you just showed your true colours.

congrats.

x

IDont get into slanging matches with children as for not knowing you, your posts say all i need to know

we hardly post on here because of people like you.

anything else..?

Funny that cause a lot stopped posting because of you lol

you just made that up.

how embarassing.

"

Yeah cause i did lol have you ever read any of your posts back and seen just how negative they are?

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester

blah de blah. whatever. you are boring us now..

anyway, back on topic, it would be great to here from more couples who have the no-kissing rule and their thoughts. its an interesting topic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aaaaaaand relax!

XXXX

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

I would have liked to see more non kissers post on here but I can see why they hav'nt......assumptions about people you don't know and who don't share your views is really easy to do but rarely correct

We kiss and we love kissing......would'nt choose to play with those that don't not because we think they may be insecure but because it comes so naturally,especially from me to kiss, we just would'nt want to offend anyone by getting carried away

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

True each to his/her own x

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

There is no reason for these kinds of thread....surely some people kiss and some don't...if one day scat become the norm....how would you feel if people call you insecure for not joining in scat...?

We don't see non-kissers as insecure....we see them as sweet couples that still keeps something to themselves...and those who kisses as adventurous people willing to go all the way and still stay strong with each other...

Remember, for vanilla people....we are all insecure...because we need to have sex with other people outside our relationship...surely it's not true right? and though many don't care it sure offends many being called insecure by people who have never live the life eh?

If you don't play with non-kissers or you do...it's your choice...no need to put a thread about it...:D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

cant say as i find people who dont kiss as insecure, i cant understand it tho, because to me kissing is all part of the forplay and build up, to have sex without kissing is just to clinical, its sex at arms lenth, you suck this, i'll lick that them we fuck and piss off lol but thats just how i see it, how can you be pysicaly close to someone sexually you cant have a kiss and a cuddle with? i love passionate sex, i love all the kissy stuff, to be honest if i had sex with someone that wouldnt kiss me id feel like just a hole to off load in and would feel quite insulted that they saw my mouth good enouigh to stick their cock in but not to kiss

but we are all different and thats just how i feel about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is no reason for these kinds of thread...."

theres no reason for any of the threads

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we should all get together and have a BIG KISS X OK SnogS. lol open mouths too ,, lol Happy kissing xxx

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By *adja_lazloCouple
over a year ago

Solihull

ohh no, you gotta kiss, its all in the build up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe all those going to charity function at Chams july 11th could have a kissathon raise more money for the charity,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe all those going to charity function at Chams july 11th could have a kissathon raise more money for the charity,"

i didnt know there was a charity function at chams on the 11th.....tell me more lol

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk

Just looking at this thread as we find it very difficult not to kiss (and yes we have met those that don't) but can you please explain how you keep a DP to yourself?

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

When we first started playing we didn't really have hard and fast rules, we knew what we didn't want but anything else was a case of try it and find out.

One of the things that I ( mrs) found out that I wasn't comfortable with was kissing.

I didn't know why, as people have said I can suck and have sex with a man but didn't want to snog him.

I put it down to, I have a relationship with my other half and I have NSA sex with a stranger.

The other half hasn't got any problem if I do want to snog anyone, in fact it is a turn on, but I just don't want to.

As for the original question, up to now the passion has been alive on each meet, I would say the only one that I cut shorter then the rest was the one who wouldn't stop snogging me !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well most men are like a dog with two dicks so maybe just maybe lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent


"I would have liked to see more non kissers post on here but I can see why they hav'nt......assumptions about people you don't know and who don't share your views is really easy to do but rarely correct

"

Well not really honeys, why shouldn't non-kissers want to post on here? This thread was never a vendetta against either couples or do or couples who don't.

It started really about 'does removing kissing from the equation just leave clinical sex' as the OP we even said clearly that's what we were interested in discussing. Of course threads rarely stay exactly on topic lol

A few have who posted talking about why they make their choice and no one is on their backs are they.

The source of any perceived aggression, and what we just can't understand, is this dogged determination to refuse the *possibility* that girl-girl only kissing is *sometimes* and we stress that *sometimes* down to an issue of insecurity in *some* cases.

When faced with a whole list of other possible reasons, some increasingly bizarre, we are still quite to accept that sometimes they have been valid reasons - after all we did see the false teeth thing ourselves (as reported on another thread weeks ago)

It's almost as if people will not accept the possibility that insecurity is *sometimes* the issue, not because they honestly really believe it never happens but because they are scared of 'losing' something if they openly admit it does.

Quite what is to be 'lost' for want of a better word, heaven knows, this is only a discussion forum isn't it?

Last thing about alleged vendetta's it surely cant have escaped notice we seem to be one of very few couples on this thread who happily meet both kissers (passionate sex) and non kissers / girl-girl kissers (fun sex)

xxxxxxx

Ju & Rich

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

I have something to say about this ...

Some people like to take it up the Arse

some dont

Some people like to kiss

some dont...................

That is all ....salutes and leaves thread .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe if people really dont like kissing thay should have that in there profile ,, as if i meet them i would be looking to kiss and would put me off and be a real downer to the start of play ...if THAY SAY OUR RULES ARE NO KISSING... I love too kiss all parts of the body not just mouth XXX JO

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i used to be a non kisser then realised what i was missing out on. nothing gets me going better than a good kissing session, particularly someone who knows how to. I can understand why people dont, but i think people should at least try it to find out that kissing someone else isnt going to mean that you dont love your partner any less.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hells Bells I can orgasm from a good kiss...im not giving that up...it may be the only one i get! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" I think we should all get together and have a BIG KISS X OK SnogS. lol open mouths too ,, lol Happy kissing xxx "

and might i say if you werent so far away id be the first in the queue

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place


"Hells Bells I can orgasm from a good kiss...im not giving that up...it may be the only one i get! lol"

omg its the new softer side ....gets bucket to throw up in ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hells Bells I can orgasm from a good kiss...im not giving that up...it may be the only one i get! lol

omg its the new softer side ....gets bucket to throw up in ..."

shhhh your ruining it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" I think we should all get together and have a BIG KISS X OK SnogS. lol open mouths too ,, lol Happy kissing xxx

and might i say if you werent so far away id be the first in the queue"
OOO GIVE ME a snog,, lol yes its mrs oooo kiss me all over come to that ,, lol xxx jo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For people that dont kiss is that just mouth ???? I can cum if my tits are kissed and down my back little kisses oooo yer ,, god love that. jo xx

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


" For people that dont kiss is that just mouth ???? I can cum if my tits are kissed and down my back little kisses oooo yer ,, god love that. jo xx"

fancy a meet?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" For people that dont kiss is that just mouth ???? I can cum if my tits are kissed and down my back little kisses oooo yer ,, god love that. jo xx

fancy a meet?! "
ONLY if you like being kissed all over for hours ,, lol then i will , lol jo xxx

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


" For people that dont kiss is that just mouth ???? I can cum if my tits are kissed and down my back little kisses oooo yer ,, god love that. jo xx

fancy a meet?! ONLY if you like being kissed all over for hours ,, lol then i will , lol jo xxx"

read our profile..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" For people that dont kiss is that just mouth ???? I can cum if my tits are kissed and down my back little kisses oooo yer ,, god love that. jo xx

fancy a meet?! ONLY if you like being kissed all over for hours ,, lol then i will , lol jo xxx

read our profile.. "
i did read and why cant you be around the coner so i can snog your face off ,,,at times i have kissed so much made my mouth hurt ,, lol next day.. x jo x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

kissing is good in my opinion!i believe it adds to the intenseness and in certain aspects is intimate with the right person!!so kisses yawlxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" I think we should all get together and have a BIG KISS X OK SnogS. lol open mouths too ,, lol Happy kissing xxx

and might i say if you werent so far away id be the first in the queue OOO GIVE ME a snog,, lol yes its mrs oooo kiss me all over come to that ,, lol xxx jo"

oh yes please, i could kiss, lick and nibble you all over. shame youre about 3 1/2 hours away. would love to meet you tho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No qualms either way, although whilst swinging we’d both rather have lots of sex and no kissing, than lots of kissing and no sex

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

Kissing is more of a foreplay thing...:D...and considering that the though of being fucked by a stranger is already a foreplay....doesn't really see the need for kissing...besides...most positions don't really allow for kissing anyway...and they can still be passionate, neh?...

besides it's not like I want to kiss when I can have a dick in my mouth....and many men don't want to be kissed in the mouth after a blowjob...:D

Jumping into conclusions that non-kissers are insecure are just like how people always jump into conclusions that swingers have boring sex life and are old fat wrinkly couples...:D

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"Kissing is more of a foreplay thing...:D...and considering that the though of being fucked by a stranger is already a foreplay....doesn't really see the need for kissing...besides...most positions don't really allow for kissing anyway...and they can still be passionate, neh?...

besides it's not like I want to kiss when I can have a dick in my mouth....and many men don't want to be kissed in the mouth after a blowjob...:D

Jumping into conclusions that non-kissers are insecure are just like how people always jump into conclusions that swingers have boring sex life and are old fat wrinkly couples...:D "

but why dont some people kiss? whats the reason? just because 'you dont want to' isnt really answering and would obviously lead to people making assumptions.

i just dont understand why people cant differentiate between a loving kiss and a kiss just for sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

LSXX WELL if i give a blow job i kiss it not just suck , lol and so you dont like cum kisses ,, lol jo xxxx

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia


"but why dont some people kiss? whats the reason? just because 'you dont want to' isnt really answering and would obviously lead to people making assumptions.

i just dont understand why people cant differentiate between a loving kiss and a kiss just for sex."

Of course you cannot understand...I can't understand people who do scat and bdsm...but I don't jump into conclusions...:D

Just see it this way....people can have sex without love...while some people before swinging cannot...so surely people can have sex without kissing...why can't people differentiate kissing and sex?....kissing doesn't need sex...and sex doesn't need kissing...:D

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"but why dont some people kiss? whats the reason? just because 'you dont want to' isnt really answering and would obviously lead to people making assumptions.

i just dont understand why people cant differentiate between a loving kiss and a kiss just for sex.

Of course you cannot understand...I can't understand people who do scat and bdsm...but I don't jump into conclusions...:D

Just see it this way....people can have sex without love...while some people before swinging cannot...so surely people can have sex without kissing...why can't people differentiate kissing and sex?....kissing doesn't need sex...and sex doesn't need kissing...:D"

scat??? you keep mentioning scat, what the hell has that to do with kisssing..?

and you still havent answered the question...why do people kiss partners but not others??

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"

and you still havent answered the question...why do people kiss partners but not others??"

They are putting up an example.

I answered your question for you if thats any good, it is further up the thread.

Just because someone likes the kissing that goes with NSA sex, doesn't mean we all should, life doesn't work like that.

It is that little word called preferences, or should that be big word.

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent


"i used to be a non kisser then realised what i was missing out on. nothing gets me going better than a good kissing session, particularly someone who knows how to.

** I can understand why people dont **,

but i think people should at least try it to find out that kissing someone else isnt going to mean that you dont love your partner any less."

well sexy beast says he knows the answer, maybe he can enlighten us all

xxx

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"i used to be a non kisser then realised what i was missing out on. nothing gets me going better than a good kissing session, particularly someone who knows how to. I can understand why people dont, but i think people should at least try it to find out that kissing someone else isnt going to mean that you dont love your partner any less."

Thats ok if you are open to the idea of trying.

I didn't know that I wasn't uncomfortable with it until it happened, but what if the idea puts you off all together before you even have a meet? you shouldn't try what you really don't want should you?

As an example that someone else used, scat is something I wouldn't ever try, so someone saying try it you might like it will get a no thanks from me and no one would bat an eye lid at it.

What is the difference with something else that you don't think is right for you?

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

can i just ask, what is scat???????

never heard of it before!! maybe i lead a sheltered life lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"can i just ask, what is scat???????

never heard of it before!! maybe i lead a sheltered life lol "

Scat is poo its a form of watersports and is not really that popular lol

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

lol!!

thanks!!

and i can understand why its not popular

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyuk!!!!!!!!!(boaking)

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"

and you still havent answered the question...why do people kiss partners but not others??

They are putting up an example.

I answered your question for you if thats any good, it is further up the thread.

Just because someone likes the kissing that goes with NSA sex, doesn't mean we all should, life doesn't work like that.

It is that little word called preferences, or should that be big word. "

yet again someone has dodged the question.

the question is why? what reason exactly..?

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

i dont think their is a reason, just some do some dont simples!!!!!!

everyone has their own reasons for kissing or not kissing

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


" i dont think their is a reason, just some do some dont simples!!!!!!

everyone has their own reasons for kissing or not kissing "

own reasons? what reasons? could you give examples...?

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

theres loads of examples already posted on the thread

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By *achaCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"theres loads of examples already posted on the thread "

'just because i dont want to' isnt really a reason now is it?

anyway, its pretty obvious to us judging by the people we've met who dont want to kiss.

bored now. leaving this thread now so people can whine on..

tatty bye!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"but why dont some people kiss? whats the reason? just because 'you dont want to' isnt really answering and would obviously lead to people making assumptions.

i just dont understand why people cant differentiate between a loving kiss and a kiss just for sex.

Of course you cannot understand...I can't understand people who do scat and bdsm...but I don't jump into conclusions...:D

Just see it this way....people can have sex without love...while some people before swinging cannot...so surely people can have sex without kissing...why can't people differentiate kissing and sex?....kissing doesn't need sex...and sex doesn't need kissing...:D

scat??? you keep mentioning scat, what the hell has that to do with kisssing..?

and you still havent answered the question...why do people kiss partners but not others??"

funny you should say that cause ive noticed they keep mentioning scatt a unhealthy amount of times.... thou does protest to much me thinks

oh and we know sex does not need kissing but it makes it a hell of a lot better

what i never understodd was couples with women who will kiss other women but not men, now if you dont like kissing why kiss women? and if you do like kissing why not men

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling


"theres loads of examples already posted on the thread

'just because i dont want to' isnt really a reason now is it?

anyway, its pretty obvious to us judging by the people we've met who dont want to kiss.

bored now. leaving this thread now so people can whine on..

tatty bye!"
thank fook!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

is it not just another form of soft swap ie cpls will kiss an only soft swap. cpls will not kiss then have full swap

just our thoughts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"but why dont some people kiss? whats the reason? just because 'you dont want to' isnt really answering and would obviously lead to people making assumptions.

i just dont understand why people cant differentiate between a loving kiss and a kiss just for sex.

Of course you cannot understand...I can't understand people who do scat and bdsm...but I don't jump into conclusions...:D

Just see it this way....people can have sex without love...while some people before swinging cannot...so surely people can have sex without kissing...why can't people differentiate kissing and sex?....kissing doesn't need sex...and sex doesn't need kissing...:D

scat??? you keep mentioning scat, what the hell has that to do with kisssing..?

and you still havent answered the question...why do people kiss partners but not others??

funny you should say that cause ive noticed they keep mentioning scatt a unhealthy amount of times.... thou does protest to much me thinks

oh and we know sex does not need kissing but it makes it a hell of a lot better

what i never understodd was couples with women who will kiss other women but not men, now if you dont like kissing why kiss women? and if you do like kissing why not men"

Cant really answer that other than for myself im fully bi i love Kissing women but do not like kissing men

I will do anything sexually with a man but wont kiss men why because it does nothing for me and i dont like it not even the thought of it thats the only way i can put it

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

yeah, i suppose, each to their own i say, i dont know why she just could understand why people dont kiss!!!!

people do what makes them happy and thats it!!! everybody is different and like different things!!!!!!

xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love too kiss woman too ,,,, I am bi and lots of men love too see woman kiss and snog ,,, its only one part of sex i know ... But if i meet couple woman is bi i kiss both x its part of sex and if i did not ,,, would think thay did not like me. xxxx kisses jo xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol just to point out that swingmates last post about kissing and bi was posted by Craig sorry forgot to sign it it may make more sence now sorry

Craig xx

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


" and in certain aspects is intimate "

And that's my answer and always has been.

I don't want intimacy with swingers, I just want sex and a laugh.

Personally, I've never really wanted to kiss anyone other than the man I've been in a relationship with.

In a dimly lit room in Chams, I can barely see their faces, let alone try and find their lips. Too much hassle!

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"

and you still havent answered the question...why do people kiss partners but not others??

They are putting up an example.

I answered your question for you if thats any good, it is further up the thread.

Just because someone likes the kissing that goes with NSA sex, doesn't mean we all should, life doesn't work like that.

It is that little word called preferences, or should that be big word.

yet again someone has dodged the question.

the question is why? what reason exactly..?"

I think you will find I did actually answer the OP question on my previous post which I TRIED to get you to read.

If you don't like that explanation on the post I was referring to ,all I can say is, tough

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" and in certain aspects is intimate

And that's my answer and always has been.

I don't want intimacy with swingers, I just want sex and a laugh.

Personally, I've never really wanted to kiss anyone other than the man I've been in a relationship with.

In a dimly lit room in Chams, I can barely see their faces, let alone try and find their lips. Too much hassle! "
lol so its just a fuck .... thats all it is ,,,not even see there faces mmm yes been there and god its boring as hell ,, next day think who the hell was he ,was he nice not nice ,,, just a fuck i feel people some here worth moor them meat on the bone,,, kissing is just part of the sex to me ...I am worth alot more then that.JO XXXX

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" and in certain aspects is intimate

And that's my answer and always has been.

I don't want intimacy with swingers, I just want sex and a laugh.

Personally, I've never really wanted to kiss anyone other than the man I've been in a relationship with.

In a dimly lit room in Chams, I can barely see their faces, let alone try and find their lips. Too much hassle! lol so its just a fuck .... thats all it is ,,,not even see there faces mmm yes been there and god its boring as hell ,, next day think who the hell was he ,was he nice not nice ,,, just a fuck i feel people some here worth moor them meat on the bone,,, kissing is just part of the sex to me ...I am worth alot more then that.JO XXXX"

Oh I don't know, thats the horny bit, not rally knowing the person, not really having time to think about that stranger the next day because you are having great sex with the other half because the night before had been a huge turn on.

In our case we don't do clubs so it isn't in a darkened room that we don't know totally who it is, but the whols stranger thing does it big time for me (mrs).

We have had one off's plus repeat meets, and although obviously we enjoy the repeats otherwise we wouldn't do it with them again, but the one offs are horniest, not knowing whats going to happen is a huge turn on.

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

i think when your swinging,yep its just a fuck basically, im certainly not looking for intimacey i get that from my husband!!we like to have a laugh and naughty fun, altho i do look at their faces as i have to be attracted to the people i play with lol!!! xx

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over a year ago


"i think when your swinging,yep its just a fuck basically, im certainly not looking for intimacey i get that from my husband!!we like to have a laugh and naughty fun, altho i do look at their faces as i have to be attracted to the people i play with lol!!! xx"
Well its when you get one or two thats not very nice ..... yukkkkkk even makes you feel yukk x day after ok months after. jo x

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

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@rugby

Can't agree more, we love to have sex with strangers and we love to snog them while we are a it, if they are up for it, but the day after, our stangers we had sex with are no more or less strangers than your strangers... if you get the drift. Just because we kissed and snogged with them doesn't affect that at all does it.

maddie - nothing wrong with just wanting sex and fun with stangers, not emotional attachent, we feel the same and no doubt do a lot of others. The day either one of us starts to get emotionally attached to our swinging partners will be the day it all starts to go wrong.

But why kiss girls?

Best we could come up with is a guess, because you are bi-playful (you may not use that word but you know what we mean) rather than truly bisexual, you therefore could not get intimately attached to a woman kissing her or not, so kissing/snogging a woman is then just a physical act?

Please don't get mad at us , it's just a guess maybe that's what you mean and what makes the difference to you between kissing guys and kissing girls?

xxx

j&r

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over a year ago

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

thats quite well put _ichnjudy, i would class myself probably as bi-playful!!! i just like a wee slap,tickle and kiss and i know me kissing a girl is a huge turn on for my hubby

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over a year ago

Never understood the no kissing thing and never will. The only thing we hold back is our love for each other and everything else is simply part of the physical fun that swingers have.

For us the only intimate thing with regards to sex is cuddling up on our own and telling each other how much we love one another, something we don't say to our swing friends but then why would we?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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I don't kiss girls

No you are right , kissing and snogging anyone doesnt make them long lost loves, I was just commenting on the post I quoted, which was slightly different than just kissing someone...if that makes sense

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By *ugby 123Couple
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"thats quite well put _ichnjudy, i would class myself probably as bi-playful!!! i just like a wee slap,tickle and kiss and i know me kissing a girl is a huge turn on for my hubby "

I am guessing for you too?

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over a year ago


"thats quite well put _ichnjudy, i would class myself probably as bi-playful!!! i just like a wee slap,tickle and kiss and i know me kissing a girl is a huge turn on for my hubby "

But not for you

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


" and in certain aspects is intimate

And that's my answer and always has been.

I don't want intimacy with swingers, I just want sex and a laugh.

Personally, I've never really wanted to kiss anyone other than the man I've been in a relationship with.

In a dimly lit room in Chams, I can barely see their faces, let alone try and find their lips. Too much hassle! lol so its just a fuck .... thats all it is ,,,not even see there faces mmm yes been there and god its boring as hell ,, next day think who the hell was he ,was he nice not nice ,,, just a fuck i feel people some here worth moor them meat on the bone,,, kissing is just part of the sex to me ...I am worth alot more then that.JO XXXX"

I'm obviously not worth anymore then.

Oh well.........

Like I care.

I don't kiss others, I don't want to kiss others, I can't be arsed to kiss others.........

Does it make sex with me less passionate?

Guessing by the amount of guys that have wanted to come back for more or who have wanted a relationship with me (when I was single I might add)....... I'd say no, it doesn't make it less passionate!

Or maybe I'm just a bloody good shag and a nice person to boot!

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling


"thats quite well put _ichnjudy, i would class myself probably as bi-playful!!! i just like a wee slap,tickle and kiss and i know me kissing a girl is a huge turn on for my hubby

But not for you "

yes for me also or i wouldnt do it

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling


"thats quite well put _ichnjudy, i would class myself probably as bi-playful!!! i just like a wee slap,tickle and kiss and i know me kissing a girl is a huge turn on for my hubby

I am guessing for you too?"

yep rugby for me 2 maybe even more so as i get off on making my hubby horny lol!!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"thats quite well put _ichnjudy, i would class myself probably as bi-playful!!! i just like a wee slap,tickle and kiss and i know me kissing a girl is a huge turn on for my hubby

I am guessing for you too?

yep rugby for me 2 maybe even more so as i get off on making my hubby horny lol!!"

Ah I know what you mean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love a good snog.... gets the blood pumping, too much gets a bit much sometimes and i'd be damned if i'd say no to someone if they didn't fancy one with me...

Take as we find... but thats us/me all over.. the milk of human kindness.

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

i would certainly snog u 2 lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i would certainly snog u 2 lol xx "

Well... I hope that was Jenny then lol..

No offence

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden


"Never understood the no kissing thing and never will. The only thing we hold back is our love for each other and everything else is simply part of the physical fun that swingers have.

For us the only intimate thing with regards to sex is cuddling up on our own and telling each other how much we love one another, something we don't say to our swing friends but then why would we?"

Amen to that!

Have also noticed that earlier in the thread, one side got very heated in their replies. My dear old Mum used to say that "The ones losing their temper are the ones who feel their arguement is shaky".

We also started off as non kissers (for about 3 months) and that was really down to me! (male)... I said about keeping something special to ourselves and really what I meant was... "if she snogs that guy perhaps she will enjoy it and want to continue" What I was worried about was that maybe I wasn't "that good" and the fem will not like my snogs.

I must point out that we had been together since we were at school and had only snogged each other since, so I was wondering if what we did was up to standard! Anyhoo... We were saying goodnight to a couple at Xtasia and she grabbed me and snogged me face off... The rest is history!!! lol

Can understand why people start off as non kissers, but certainly can't understand why they maintain that stance!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling


"i would certainly snog u 2 lol xx

Well... I hope that was Jenny then lol..

No offence "

lol!! it was me (jenny) and no offence taken xx

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

Was gonna post something else, but what the hell let's stay magnanimous in victory lol.

Crazy wild unfounded assumptions do ring true then.

Thank you, we would happily snog the pair of you for your frank and honest post.

xxxxx

Ju & Rich

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over a year ago

I have really like reading this post about kissing xx its good we can have our views and all get on , lol x One thing did come out of it ,,, next meet i am asking if thay like kissing ,, lol jo xxxx

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over a year ago


" I have really like reading this post about kissing xx its good we can have our views and all get on , lol x One thing did come out of it ,,, next meet i am asking if thay like kissing ,, lol jo xxxx"
Good idea babe. I recently met up with a guy who I had chatted to on the phone and we discussed our dos and donts like you do. Only when we met up he announced he didn't kiss! I felt a bit let down as kissing is one of the things I like most when playing. The sex was very good without the kissing but I was a bit disappointed that he had changd his mind about it.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"

Can understand why people start off as non kissers, but certainly can't understand why they maintain that stance!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"

Because we just do.

I've been swinging 10 years now and kissing has never been on the agenda.

Don't want to, don't have to, can't see me wanting to in the future.

The no kissing rule has never got in the way of my swinging and I don't think for one moment it ever will.

IF it ever does, I'll reconsider but to be brutally honest, if it's not got in the way in 10 years, it's hardly likely to get in the way in the next 10.

However, once again, in answer to the OPs original question, no, it doesn't make swinging less passionate. Not for me anyway.

Each to their own. But I have to say, if kissers don't want to meet us...... I'm not gonna cry over it.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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" I have really like reading this post about kissing xx its good we can have our views and all get on , lol x One thing did come out of it ,,, next meet i am asking if thay like kissing ,, lol jo xxxx"
lol we always ask questions like that , just to be on the safe side, not just kissing obviously , but about everything

And RichardnJudy, I didn't realise it was a competition

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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well sexy beast says he knows the answer, maybe he can enlighten us all

xxx

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didnt say i know the answer, just said that im a converted non-kisser to kisser and as such, just think that people shouldnt just dismiss the idea.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and before anyone makes any clever remarks, watersports and scat shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath as kissing

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"and before anyone makes any clever remarks, watersports and scat shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath as kissing"

I must be one of those posters then as I mentioned scat as an example to your post up the thread, and did so to use it as an example.

The example was, would you try something that isn't right for you just because someone said " try it, go on, you might like it"

( insert any turn off that you have in place of scat if you prefer)

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent

hey rugbys's no worries, we're only mildly competitive

xxxxx

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By *ugby 123Couple
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"hey rugbys's no worries, we're only mildly competitive

xxxxx"

lol I hadn't noticed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

@_ichnjudy

we had this opinion that kissing was this special thing that we should keep for ourselves..... however after having sex with others we found that sex without kissing just wasnt the same as with it so we tried it once to see if it was better. we much preferred it. we still loved eachother the same as before we kissed others and sex we thought was better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"@_ichnjudy

we had this opinion that kissing was this special thing that we should keep for ourselves..... however after having sex with others we found that sex without kissing just wasnt the same as with it so we tried it once to see if it was better. we much preferred it. we still loved eachother the same as before we kissed others and sex we thought was better"

my point exactly, couldnt have put it better myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sorry should add that kissing is special in certain circumstances, which strangely is away from sex... hope you know what we mean as im struggling to explain it lol

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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No answer came he reply , oh well, such is life

As i said further up the thread it wasn't something that was a turn off for us.

It wasn't a case of I won't love my husband anymore if I snog anyone, it just didn't work for me.

To be honest , lets face it, everything is trial and error.

But we all have something that is a turn off, whatever that may be, but even if the odd turn off isn't used at a meet, they can still be passioante and fun, otherwise no one would do it if we ALL had to do everything that is listed as sex fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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well sexy beast says he knows the answer, maybe he can enlighten us all

xxx

didnt say i know the answer, just said that im a converted non-kisser to kisser and as such, just think that people shouldnt just dismiss the idea."

Maybe Im wrong because I havnt read your profile but, I think the kissing issue would be different for you than for couples as you are a single male.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i swing as a single male but i do have a partner who is fully aware of what i do, and we are stronger as a couple since we started meeting other people, so in answer to your question, no its not different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well clearly we enjoy swinging in a different way to you, as you meet seperately, which we don't.

I think maybe if we did make the jump to play seperately (which we have no plans at all to do) then kissing would be a minor factor in comparison.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"i swing as a single male but i do have a partner who is fully aware of what i do, and we are stronger as a couple since we started meeting other people, so in answer to your question, no its not different."

But you don't swing as a couple. Or at least thats what your profile is saying?

I suppose for 'single' males and 'single' females it is very different and there is no attachment to anyone else and none of the 'keeping something for each other'or even some of the worries that appear to surface.

However, a couple will have each other to trust and each other to please as well. We discuss everything as a couple and kissing for us wasn't an option, just as simple as that. It's not because of insecurity, it's because BOTH of us CHOSE not to kiss other people.

Tell me Sexybeast, if you swang as a couple, with your partner (who suprisingly isn't mentioned in your very single profile), would you be so chastising about the fact that some couples chose not to kiss?

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over a year ago

its a very single profile because, as already pointed out, i swing as a single. as everyone who ive met will tell you i dont disguise the fact im in a relationship.

as for your last comment, whos being chastising, just said that it shouldnt be so easily dismissed, and before you ask, yes we are both kissers, and if we did swing as a couple would feel weird meeting people who dont do it.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"its a very single profile because, as already pointed out, i swing as a single. as everyone who ive met will tell you i dont disguise the fact im in a relationship.

as for your last comment, whos being chastising, just said that it shouldnt be so easily dismissed, and before you ask, yes we are both kissers, and if we did swing as a couple would feel weird meeting people who dont do it."

Not everyone dismissed the idea, but if they do, it is because that is surely what THEY want to do, and no one should dismiss their choices because of it and told they should at least try it.

On another note, someone asked maddie was it just her husband that didn't want them to kiss and questioned was she not kissing because he didn't want her to.

In swinging, no one should do anything that they don't want to do, especially if you are only doing it to please your partner, BUT, on the other hand you shouldn't do something that you know your partner doesn't want...there is a very obvious difference.

If my partner was uncomfortable with anything at all, I wouldn't go out of my way to upset him by doing it, and vice versa.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"its a very single profile because, as already pointed out, i swing as a single. as everyone who ive met will tell you i dont disguise the fact im in a relationship.

as for your last comment, whos being chastising, just said that it shouldnt be so easily dismissed, and before you ask, yes we are both kissers, and if we did swing as a couple would feel weird meeting people who dont do it.

Not everyone dismissed the idea, but if they do, it is because that is surely what THEY want to do, and no one should dismiss their choices because of it and told they should at least try it.

On another note, someone asked maddie was it just her husband that didn't want them to kiss and questioned was she not kissing because he didn't want her to.

In swinging, no one should do anything that they don't want to do, especially if you are only doing it to please your partner, BUT, on the other hand you shouldn't do something that you know your partner doesn't want...there is a very obvious difference.

If my partner was uncomfortable with anything at all, I wouldn't go out of my way to upset him by doing it, and vice versa."

For those that wonder and have asked if it was Jason who didn't want me to kiss anyone else and do I not kiss, just for him.

the answer (as I've pointed out many times above) is NO.

I've never really kissed anyone I've swung with. I've been swinging 10 years. The last 2 years as a couple but the previous 8 as a single. As a single I didn't really kiss, I don't see the need. To me, swinging is about sex and laughter. Not about snogging someones face off or getting intense and emotional with them.

It's something I've always balked away from and I was just lucky that Jason feels the same way.

I've always saved cuddles, kissing and emotion for my partners with whom I am in a relationship with. I'm not in a relationship with a single guy that choses to come round here and tag team me with Jason, so therefore, I wouldn't kiss him.

If Jason had been a kisser then I would be happy to let him kiss, I still wouldn't do it personally.

Like I said, in 10 years of swinging it has NEVER been an issue and as my gob tends to be otherwise engaged, it's not really needed for kissing.

As for you Sexybeast. You were chastising those of us that don't, saying that we should at least try it.

Why?

I don't want to! and therefore, I don't have to even try it.

I am very open about that fact.

Your profile states you are single yet you are in a relationship. There are many people who won't meet others who are in a relationship. Maybe YOU should TRY putting on your profile that you are in a relationship and see if the swinging changes.

Touche!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

kissing and passion come more with loving and caring

swinging is about sex and getting dirty

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By *teve_SoleilCouple
over a year ago

Malaysia

You may kiss the bride...:D...

Anyway, it's true that some does not kiss because jealousy or fear like a fella that said he used to be like that...

But going on assumption that non-kissers are insecure and jealous type are preposterous....as surely they swing and have sex with other people....if they were insecure and jealousy....why would they swing?

Maybe for some scat/watersport/bdsm/anal are not in the same line as kissing....but surely for people that do them....those are things that they enjoy and prefer doing...but they don't jump into assumptions that those who don't do it are insecure...:D

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over a year ago


"its a very single profile because, as already pointed out, i swing as a single. as everyone who ive met will tell you i dont disguise the fact im in a relationship.

as for your last comment, whos being chastising, just said that it shouldnt be so easily dismissed, and before you ask, yes we are both kissers, and if we did swing as a couple would feel weird meeting people who dont do it.

Not everyone dismissed the idea, but if they do, it is because that is surely what THEY want to do, and no one should dismiss their choices because of it and told they should at least try it.

On another note, someone asked maddie was it just her husband that didn't want them to kiss and questioned was she not kissing because he didn't want her to.

In swinging, no one should do anything that they don't want to do, especially if you are only doing it to please your partner, BUT, on the other hand you shouldn't do something that you know your partner doesn't want...there is a very obvious difference.

If my partner was uncomfortable with anything at all, I wouldn't go out of my way to upset him by doing it, and vice versa.

For those that wonder and have asked if it was Jason who didn't want me to kiss anyone else and do I not kiss, just for him.

the answer (as I've pointed out many times above) is NO.

I've never really kissed anyone I've swung with. I've been swinging 10 years. The last 2 years as a couple but the previous 8 as a single. As a single I didn't really kiss, I don't see the need. To me, swinging is about sex and laughter. Not about snogging someones face off or getting intense and emotional with them.

It's something I've always balked away from and I was just lucky that Jason feels the same way.

I've always saved cuddles, kissing and emotion for my partners with whom I am in a relationship with. I'm not in a relationship with a single guy that choses to come round here and tag team me with Jason, so therefore, I wouldn't kiss him.

If Jason had been a kisser then I would be happy to let him kiss, I still wouldn't do it personally.

Like I said, in 10 years of swinging it has NEVER been an issue and as my gob tends to be otherwise engaged, it's not really needed for kissing.

As for you Sexybeast. You were chastising those of us that don't, saying that we should at least try it.

Why?

I don't want to! and therefore, I don't have to even try it.

I am very open about that fact.

Your profile states you are single yet you are in a relationship. There are many people who won't meet others who are in a relationship. Maybe YOU should TRY putting on your profile that you are in a relationship and see if the swinging changes.

Touche!"

had that on another site and just kept getting people wanting to know if we would meet as a couple - NO WE DONT. everyone knows that swinging is harder for single guys anyway so im not going to get any less if a response than i get now. when i start chatting to people i never hide the fact im in a relationship and i dont message those who put that on their profile, and the ladies ive met couldnt give a toss if i am or not. Besides how many couples have met a 'single' bloke they dont know and can honestly say theyre not in a relationship.

you dont want to kiss, fine, getting fed up of talking about it now, but for me kissing is a vital part of sex. why lick downstairs then refuse upstairs is my opinion, and thats all MY OPINION. if you read back to my first post on this thread youll notice all i was doing was giving my honest opinion from somebody who has tried both and trying to advise those who dont not to dis the idea, especially to those select few who look down on those that do.

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By *ET US INCouple
over a year ago

ollerton

we could never imagine not being able to kiss another guy/ girl isn't that part of the process that leads to a erotic and sexy start of a horny night of passion , we feel it sets the mood for the whole horny sexual meet and how do you guys and girls manage without the kissing side no offence intended on anyone that has this rule we are just curious about your replies xxxx have fun all m & g xxxx

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By *ugby 123Couple
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"all i was doing was giving my honest opinion from somebody who has tried both and trying to advise those who dont not to dis the idea, especially to those select few who look down on those that do. "

I didn't see anyone look down on anyone who kisses, in fact the majority of the thread love it.

There was lots of assuming of why people don't , without actually listening to the people who were trying to tell others why.

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over a year ago

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"You may kiss the bride...:D...

Anyway, it's true that some does not kiss because jealousy or fear like a fella that said he used to be like that...

But going on assumption that non-kissers are insecure and jealous type are preposterous....as surely they swing and have sex with other people....if they were insecure and jealousy....why would they swing?

Maybe for some scat/watersport/bdsm/anal are not in the same line as kissing....but surely for people that do them....those are things that they enjoy and prefer doing...but they don't jump into assumptions that those who don't do it are insecure...:D "

Ah, well put

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over a year ago

What is the connection between

Kissing or not kissing

Soft swap and full swap

Watersports or no watersports

anal and no anal

bareback or condoms

meeting bi people or not

Etc etc etc

Tha ansewer is PERSONAL CHOICE and at the end of the day if its what you both want and the couple you are with (or anyone you go with) are fine with your choices,and you with theirs

Why the hell then do some people loose sleep over things that other people do or do not do

Answers on a postcard please

Craig x

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over a year ago


"What is the connection between

Kissing or not kissing

Soft swap and full swap

Watersports or no watersports

anal and no anal

bareback or condoms

meeting bi people or not

Etc etc etc

Tha ansewer is PERSONAL CHOICE and at the end of the day if its what you both want and the couple you are with (or anyone you go with) are fine with your choices,and you with theirs

Why the hell then do some people loose sleep over things that other people do or do not do

Answers on a postcard please

Craig x"

beats me!..well actually nobody beats me and lives to tell!

each to thier own eh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly xx

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

I have noticed some reference to one partner asking the other partner not to kiss. There have also been other comments about "you are a single male so it's different"

If someone asks you not to kiss, they have a problem with that! If you imply that being a single guy is easier because he is single and there is no one else to consider, then one of you have a problem!!!

Last word from us as ex-non-kissers.. Yes it can be a preference, but it can also be worry and jealousy about the other partner liking it too much or that one partner thinks they may not be "that good".. Just like I used to be!!

Saving kissing as "special" is the phrase we used to use, but really... You can fuck my wife, lick her pussy, play with her tits and massage her all over... BUT don't you dare kiss her!!!

OK we gone.... Wooooosh

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over a year ago


"I have noticed some reference to one partner asking the other partner not to kiss. There have also been other comments about "you are a single male so it's different"

If someone asks you not to kiss, they have a problem with that! If you imply that being a single guy is easier because he is single and there is no one else to consider, then one of you have a problem!!!

Last word from us as ex-non-kissers.. Yes it can be a preference, but it can also be worry and jealousy about the other partner liking it too much or that one partner thinks they may not be "that good".. Just like I used to be!!

Saving kissing as "special" is the phrase we used to use, but really... You can fuck my wife, lick her pussy, play with her tits and massage her all over... BUT don't you dare kiss her!!!

OK we gone.... Wooooosh"

I do believe its different for a single person, not because either of us has a problem at all, like somebody else pointed out, if we had a jelousy issue I hardly think swinging would be something we would enjoy do you?

I feel its different because as others have pointed out we like to keep something back for ourselves, something thats important in our relationship, single people wouldnt have that to consider.

Many have said they don't understand the no kissing rule, well I don't understand why people just can't accept that we don't want to kiss others, not due to jealousy from either of us, just simply because we don't want to.

x

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over a year ago

I think everbody has the right to there own personal choice with regards to kissing,(although we always kiss on meets).

I just thinks it a deception, if you do not mention that you do not kiss, on your profile.

we have met couples and during play, found the person to shy away from letting you kiss them as you are in the middle of f***ing them,which we find can be a bit off putting (as we had no previous knowledge of there preference's)

simplest way around this, is just express this on your profile.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"I think everbody has the right to there own personal choice with regards to kissing,(although we always kiss on meets).

I just thinks it a deception, if you do not mention that you do not kiss, on your profile.

we have met couples and during play, found the person to shy away from letting you kiss them as you are in the middle of f***ing them,which we find can be a bit off putting (as we had no previous knowledge of there preference's)

simplest way around this, is just express this on your profile. "

Or when you chat as you decide wether to meet or not. We discuss likes and dislikes more in private than on the profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well kinda jumping in here without having read everyones responses....but...

I do totally understand why people would keep kissing separate. To me kissing is the most intimate thing you can do with your partner. Some couples enjoy anal but only keep it for themselves, so if to others kissing is what they want to keep aside then so be it. It certainly doesn't come across as a jealousy issue, just a preference.

Might add, not sure I would meet a couple who don't kiss, think it might be a bit odd but that's just me

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By *irtyduoCouple
over a year ago

nr stirling

like iv said b4 i do like a good old kiss but prefer kissin with my husband, iv kissed girls, iv also kissed other men (we meet 3 couples regular) but for me no one can turn me on by kissin the way my husband does!! also when your gettin a good old pumpin it can be a bit hard to snog lol especially if its a good old vigouris pumping lol, like a few have said its just down to personal choice

and whether you kiss, dont kiss, if your happy having fun and not hurting any1 then who cares what other people think!! each to their own i say so happy pumping every1 xxxxx

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

Kiss or don't kiss - it's up to the individual - why on earth worry about what other people do?????????? Clinical for you? Then only meet dudes who kiss - there - problem solved!

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By *ichNjudy OP   Couple
over a year ago

stoke on trent


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There was lots of assuming of why people don't , without actually listening to the people who were trying to tell others why.

"

There was nothing wrong with those assumptions rugbys, in fact if they had not been expressed most likely we would never have had the frank comments from some 'ex-nonkissers' from which we have all probably learnt something

xxxxx

Ju & rich

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