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"There's to many fakes who spoil it for the rest it's near on impossible to get to partys now !! " I wouldn't say that was true... what i will say is that you have to stand out more to make an impression to be able to get invites... so be that on the chatroom or in the forums or getting to socials the oppotunities are out there.... | |||
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"How has swinging changed over the years? When we first started nearly 10 years ago almost everyone was genuine and meets seemed to be easier to come by. When we went out it was usually as a group and fun was had by all. A lot of meets now seem to be 1 on 1 ( well 2 on 2 lol ) and clubs seem to be locked doors rather than party rooms. This is only out personal view and we understand that this is exactly what some are looking for, we are just interested in others opinions on how things have changed xxxP&Jxxx" There's alot more married and cheatings (so can't get away from the partner often) More single men looking for a quick shag. It's become a bit of a trophy hobby Maybe, from when I started over 10 years ago......... I've just gotten older I also find that alot of the 'quickie' brigade are also so disrepsectful that it's unbelieveable. ie, It's not just ME, my hubby is in this to!!! | |||
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"How has swinging changed over the years? When we first started nearly 10 years ago almost everyone was genuine and meets seemed to be easier to come by. When we went out it was usually as a group and fun was had by all. A lot of meets now seem to be 1 on 1 ( well 2 on 2 lol ) and clubs seem to be locked doors rather than party rooms. This is only out personal view and we understand that this is exactly what some are looking for, we are just interested in others opinions on how things have changed xxxP&Jxxx There's alot more married and cheatings (so can't get away from the partner often) More single men looking for a quick shag. It's become a bit of a trophy hobby Maybe, from when I started over 10 years ago......... I've just gotten older I also find that alot of the 'quickie' brigade are also so disrepsectful that it's unbelieveable. ie, It's not just ME, my hubby is in this to!!!" Thankyou _adchick this is what we were looking for, seem to have been going off the gist with single guys chat and getting out what you put in. See plenty of other threads for those points of view. | |||
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"How has swinging changed over the years? When we first started nearly 10 years ago almost everyone was genuine and meets seemed to be easier to come by. When we went out it was usually as a group and fun was had by all. A lot of meets now seem to be 1 on 1 ( well 2 on 2 lol ) and clubs seem to be locked doors rather than party rooms. This is only out personal view and we understand that this is exactly what some are looking for, we are just interested i n others opinions on how things have changed But that's my point I'm pretty new to this not lookin for trophys lookin to explore the swinging side socially aswell as physical but wen u ask for invites u get asked to bring a partner ?? So how do new guys get to learn the etiquette if there treat like arseholes ? There's alot more married and cheatings (so can't get away from the partner often) More single men looking for a quick shag. It's become a bit of a trophy hobby Maybe, from when I started over 10 years ago......... I've just gotten older I also find that alot of the 'quickie' brigade are also so disrepsectful that it's unbelieveable. ie, It's not just ME, my hubby is in this to!!! Thankyou _adchick this is what we were looking for, seem to have been going off the gist with single guys chat and getting out what you put in. See plenty of other threads for those points of view." | |||
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"How has swinging changed over the years? ..........xxxP&Jxxx" In my very earliest days it was all word of mouth. If you happened to know someone who held parties you might get an invite as a bit of novelty for the ladies. You might meet a couple out dogging and impress them enough to get an invite to a party. Mess it up and you'd probably blown the swing scene for 100 miles around. When magazines came along there was a huge upturn in interest but you had to buy the mag, write (and we've seen how good some swingers are at that) impress a couple who've never met you, get a reply, arrange a meet convenient for all parties (in the days before cellphones) and eventually meet (hopefully). Come the internet, everyone and his dog is a 'swinger'. No costs, no waiting, no social skills, no joined up thinking etc required. Just an internet connection and a mobile phone. It's become a numbers game. Fire off countless variations on 'fancy a shag' and eventually someone will say 'yes'. | |||
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"How has swinging changed over the years? ..........xxxP&Jxxx In my very earliest days it was all word of mouth. If you happened to know someone who held parties you might get an invite as a bit of novelty for the ladies. You might meet a couple out dogging and impress them enough to get an invite to a party. Mess it up and you'd probably blown the swing scene for 100 miles around. When magazines came along there was a huge upturn in interest but you had to buy the mag, write (and we've seen how good some swingers are at that) impress a couple who've never met you, get a reply, arrange a meet convenient for all parties (in the days before cellphones) and eventually meet (hopefully). Come the internet, everyone and his dog is a 'swinger'. No costs, no waiting, no social skills, no joined up thinking etc required. Just an internet connection and a mobile phone. It's become a numbers game. Fire off countless variations on 'fancy a shag' and eventually someone will say 'yes'." Am virtually new to this but surely part of this is the freedom element, you sound so jaded! Yes it is probably less exclusive than in the past but that opens up the possiblities for even More fun xx | |||
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"............... Yes it is probably less exclusive than in the past but that opens up the possiblities for even More fun xx " In exactly the same way as the internet has opened up the possibilities for Nigerian phishing scams. | |||
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"............... Yes it is probably less exclusive than in the past but that opens up the possiblities for even More fun xx In exactly the same way as the internet has opened up the possibilities for Nigerian phishing scams." Cynic! | |||
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"Years ago you had to work harder to find avenues for swinging, like clubs etc so the people who found these avenues tend to be more geniune as they have had to work hard to build contacts and find out the information they needed. Now it's easily accessible through all the swinging sites, so any Tom, Dick or Harry can find out and get access to a quick shag rather than understanding the lifestyle perhaps. " . . Totally agree, the 'One Line Message' Brigade are often surprised when I tell them the swinging life is harder than the real one if all they're looking for is a quick shag! Too many single men (sorry single men) believe that because women are here they should be treated like unpaid prostitutes-that's been a big change since we started! | |||
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"I've found a lot of guys on here are looking for a quick fix, they are not interested in any of the social side of it all or the 'fun' side. I now will not meet anyone now unless it's at a club, which has reduced my meets to zero!! I also agree with the locking of doors at clubs when it's just a couple in there, what's the point? " if the couple in the locked room are not 'a couple' | |||
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"I've found a lot of guys on here are looking for a quick fix, they are not interested in any of the social side of it all or the 'fun' side. I now will not meet anyone now unless it's at a club, which has reduced my meets to zero!! I also agree with the locking of doors at clubs when it's just a couple in there, what's the point? if the couple in the locked room are not 'a couple' " I know lots of couples that go to clubs and only play between themselves, or dont play at all, i personally can not see the point in going to a swingers club if your not a swinger I know people will say that everyone goes for their own reasons and i agree with this, but i just can not see the point in driving miles, as some people do, paying high free to get in a swinging club and then just sitting drinking all night To be honest this is the biggest difference i have noticed in clubs Years ago people who used clubs went for the reason they opened Swinging clubs wasnt opened with the intention of being used as a social gathering place they was opened for the use of like minded people to go and have sex | |||
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"There have been a number of things which I think have contributed to swinging changing. What I think they have in common is that they have contributed / conspired to bring swinging into the open, and therefor to its potential downfall. Once upon a time, swinging was "underground". It was something that you had vaguely heard about, occasionally read about in a Sunday paper, but thought was only something that the playboys and their like did... it wasn't for the masses. Then came the contact mags, and then came the internet, and more and more keys to the door were on offer. And then came Channel 4 and latterly Channel 5 and the Cable channels which needed sex to sell its late night schedules. With programmes like "Sexcetera", "A Girl's Guide To 21st Century Sex" and "Sin Cities" all of a sudden, what used to be underground has become almost mainstream...with two big consequences. Firstly, those who liked "the scene" because it was "naughty" became disinterested because it wasn't quite as naughty any more (note the parallel to CB Radio - very popular when illegal, and almost died a death as soon as legalised) and secondly, the "great unwashed" were able to access the scene. Thereafter, with a different kind of person after different things from the scene, change became inevitable. Just my view of the situation of course. I may be wrong and others will have their take, but that's how I see it." Best answer in the thread, I think. A friend recently (who doesn't know what we do) confided in me "I've never had a threesome and I feel like I'm the weird one!". Says it all. These days maybe there's too much openness and suggestion. | |||
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