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By *ondonmale69 OP   Man
over a year ago

St Albans

Hi we are looking to opening a new swinging club close to the M25 in N.E London & are looking for a female who is willing to help create & help run the club, please message me.

x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not to be funny, but why do you need a female?

It sounds a little... loaded, to be honest.

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By *ondonmale69 OP   Man
over a year ago

St Albans

Because all clubs i've been to have a female involved, they know whats what regarding kitting out the club & also men & women won't be intimidated to come to the club if there is a female to greet them.

Just my opinion. Its in a great location with great potential so it will be god to start on the right note ! Also thinking about fitting a Jacuzzi in there too.

x

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By *ondonmale69 OP   Man
over a year ago

St Albans

We are 100& Genuine about this club, the premises are already in place with lots of parking spaces & out of distance from local residents !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about visiting some clubs to see what works and not, as part of your feasibility/bench-marking process?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because all clubs i've been to have a female involved, they know whats what regarding kitting out the club & also men & women won't be intimidated to come to the club if there is a female to greet them.

Just my opinion. Its in a great location with great potential so it will be god to start on the right note ! Also thinking about fitting a Jacuzzi in there too.

x"

i think you are absolutely right to want to get the female touch in a club...wish i was closer id help you out !!

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By *ondonmale69 OP   Man
over a year ago

St Albans

thank you bunny, i think pearl necklace is a little out of date, i was at Fun Times on Friday & i've seen whats on offer to swingers, i hope i can do a lot better !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry, I do not sit here and read every single post on FAB!

Good luck, as you'll need it!

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

I think there is a lot more you need to do before hiring a meet and greeter.... like seeing if the Councul will allow you to alter the use of the premises (I assume) you have.... seeing as you are onl;y at the 'thinking about' stage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thank you bunny, i think pearl necklace is a little out of date, i was at Fun Times on Friday & i've seen whats on offer to swingers, i hope i can do a lot better !"

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You've been to one club and you think you know it all?!

The one to beat is Chameleon's at Darlaston!

Good luck!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thank you bunny, i think pearl necklace is a little out of date, i was at Fun Times on Friday & i've seen whats on offer to swingers, i hope i can do a lot better !

.

You've been to one club and you think you know it all?!

The one to beat is Chameleon's at Darlaston!

Good luck! "

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"Sorry, I do not sit here and read every single post on FAB!

Good luck, as you'll need it! "

May be he should try contacting someone from a few of the newer ones which have recently closed down.... and ask why they didn't work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thank you bunny, i think pearl necklace is a little out of date, i was at Fun Times on Friday & i've seen whats on offer to swingers, i hope i can do a lot better !

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You've been to one club and you think you know it all?!

The one to beat is Chameleon's at Darlaston!

Good luck! "

Isn't Darlaston a long way from NE London/ M25?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No where is too far for the determined!

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"thank you bunny, i think pearl necklace is a little out of date, i was at Fun Times on Friday & i've seen whats on offer to swingers, i hope i can do a lot better !

.

You've been to one club and you think you know it all?!

The one to beat is Chameleon's at Darlaston!

Good luck!

Isn't Darlaston a long way from NE London/ M25?"

I don't think where it is matters. I think the point Pearl was making was... visit a few well established clubs with good reputations and see what it is they do... rather than going to one dive and thinking it's easy to beat that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People will travel a LONG way for a good club. Takes us over 2 hours to get to Chams in Darlaston and we love it there so much we don't even want to try any of the local ones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't think where it is matters. I think the point Pearl was making was... visit a few well established clubs with good reputations and see what it is they do... rather than going to one dive and thinking it's easy to beat that."

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Thank you, you read my mind!

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"I don't think where it is matters. I think the point Pearl was making was... visit a few well established clubs with good reputations and see what it is they do... rather than going to one dive and thinking it's easy to beat that.

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Thank you, you read my mind! "

Nahhhhh.... I just read your post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thank you, you read my mind!

Nahhhhh.... I just read your post "

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Thanks for reading it properly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thank you bunny, i think pearl necklace is a little out of date, i was at Fun Times on Friday & i've seen whats on offer to swingers, i hope i can do a lot better !

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You've been to one club and you think you know it all?!

The one to beat is Chameleon's at Darlaston!

Good luck!

Isn't Darlaston a long way from NE London/ M25?

I don't think where it is matters. I think the point Pearl was making was... visit a few well established clubs with good reputations and see what it is they do... rather than going to one dive and thinking it's easy to beat that."

I think the idea of visiting a few well established clubs with good reputations (and stealing their good ideas) is an excellent one but there's no need to aspire to be better than a club a couple of hundred miles away straight off.

Not everyone is willing or able to travel long distances - even for the best experience.

Initially being better than any club within a 30 mile radius, then a 50 mile radius, then 100 miles and so on ought to be the plan, using any profits derived to build on and improve the venue/ experience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone like Chameleons ? anyone think it's laid out nice and kept well ?

Not a picture or chair, not a brick or shelf has ever gone into that club that hasn't been chosen by the Male owner of the club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because all clubs i've been to have a female involved, they know whats what regarding kitting out the club & also men & women won't be intimidated to come to the club if there is a female to greet them.

Just my opinion. Its in a great location with great potential so it will be god to start on the right note ! Also thinking about fitting a Jacuzzi in there too.

x"
Lots now have jacuzzies and pools at home .. one time was good to find that now people looking for others things too not just the pole on the dance floor not just the hot tub its people who make clubs and getting the right mix , With out it being clicky i can say only one thats not is chams ,, Some other ones i have been too have clicks even in the play rooms for there friends Only can look yukk but if under 35 get in ,, lol should not be like that ...... had that at one club lol some clubs just dont have what it take to get people there every week ,, some are dead ....and only good on a night a site partys on ..... so you need a mix of things to make a swing club work and alot of luck. jo xxx

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

I wonder if the OP even knows how many clubs and established party venues there are within a 30 mile radius.

When starting out it is unlikely you will be better than the best... but you have to offer something worth going to... and in many cases better or different to the places people already go... or why would they change haunts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok well apologies for my initial scepticism (forums can do that to you..).

I can speak from experience only with fetish clubs, but don't try and be better, try and offer something different.

In my experience, recent, club antichrist has risen very very quickly due to the nature of it's musical and live / entertainment content vs other fetish clubs - my point being that it's become popular due to something not even related to fetish!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

over the years i keep getting told place for swing-clubs is Holland and fetish clubs to. Thay say we could learn alot from them ,,,,,,,, Never been but if i was going to set up a club would be a place i would be going to X JO

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe, with all the more liberal sex-related programmes on TV in the past few years, it is becoming more acceptable for peeps to visit and set up clubs.

However, there will always be those stuffy minded peeps who do not want such clubs in their doorstep so to speak!

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"Hi we are looking to opening a new swinging club close to the M25 in N.E London & are looking for a female who is willing to help create & help run the club, please message me.

x "

Plenty of clubs in and around London that aren't that hard to get to.

Go see them, see which ones are busiest, see what you would change.

Unfortunately, many new swinging clubs fail because they get it totally wrong and because people WILL travel to the cleanest and the best clubs.

Chameleons, as a case in point, has people travel from all over the world to go and on a weekly basis, people from Ireland and Scotland make the drive.

If you really want a female to help, then I might suggest that you are in the wrong business. If you are a swinger, with a club swingers mind, then you should know what you need.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"over the years i keep getting told place for swing-clubs is Holland and fetish clubs to. Thay say we could learn alot from them ,,,,,,,, Never been but if i was going to set up a club would be a place i would be going to X JO"

Cant say, but for fetish, *noone* beats the brits, seriously. They know how to look fantastic, and have fun doing it - most other countries manage one or the other.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"

However, there will always be those stuffy minded peeps who do not want such clubs in their doorstep so to speak! "

Hence why they are tightening the rules on granting permission for the use of premises.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

By the way.......... who is the 'WE'

Or is this just a ploy for you and a mate to get women to message and meet you in the hope that you may give them a job, but in reality, you just want to get into their knickers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"By the way.......... who is the 'WE'

Or is this just a ploy for you and a mate to get women to message and meet you in the hope that you may give them a job, but in reality, you just want to get into their knickers?"
you maybe right? i know people do all sorts to get woman chating ,, lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

I would also try not to alienate other club owners by thinking you can do better because you think their club maybe rubbish

Some club owners have a very healthy respect for each other and can be a great help to each other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".

The one to beat is Chameleon's at Darlaston!

Good luck! "

LOVE Chams - but the one to beat is Liberty!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".

The one to beat is Chameleon's at Darlaston!

Good luck!

LOVE Chams - but the one to beat is Liberty!!!!"
no ones you need to Beat in holland i have not even been ,, lolol xx lol FUN4TWO.. good thing we dont all like same thing ,, each to there own i have been to both them clubs and like both in there own ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why "beat" anything?

By setting that as a target, you set yourself up for failure by a) alienating people who like the place you want to beat and b) looking pompous.

I mean, you wouldn't set a profile saying "We are so much better than (insert well known forumite name)" would you?

Better to be yourself, be nice, open a club that feels welcoming. After all, what happens if on your first night 200 people showup looking for "the chams beater" and then 189 decide "well it really wasnt".

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By *pecial bbCouple
over a year ago

london

we went to kent swing sensations and its fantastic. when they set it up they went around other clubs to see what worked and what didnt. all areas, even walls are easily wiped down, all areas have wipes and lubes available free of charge too. well thought out club.

good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Antichirst has ladys in latex outfits wandering round all night with trays of jelly sweets. And at 3am they have tea and biscuits.

This alone is good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".

The one to beat is Chameleon's at Darlaston!

Good luck!

LOVE Chams - but the one to beat is Liberty!!!!"

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Have not been there yet, so I can't comment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone like Chameleons ? anyone think it's laid out nice and kept well ?

Not a picture or chair, not a brick or shelf has ever gone into that club that hasn't been chosen by the Male owner of the club "

i think the decor at chams is very sleazy actaully, it looks like a guy has chosen everything in it !! ....thats not to say it isnt a good club ,and the meeters and greeters are pretty much female arent they ??

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

im gonna have a careful look next week

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus


"Anyone like Chameleons ? anyone think it's laid out nice and kept well ?

Not a picture or chair, not a brick or shelf has ever gone into that club that hasn't been chosen by the Male owner of the club

i think the decor at chams is very sleazy actaully, it looks like a guy has chosen everything in it !! ....thats not to say it isnt a good club ,and the meeters and greeters are pretty much female arent they ??

"

Unfortunately, in a swinging club, everything has to be washable, easily removed and replaced and cleanable in the 8 hours that the club is shut (not forgetting that there are 3 cleaners, 7 nights a week, scrubbing the 3 storey club down in 8 hours, not including backwashing the jacuzzi's.....)

Of course most good and clean clubs err on the side of sleazy....... vinyl, plastic leatherette and dark carpets and walls will do that to a place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone like Chameleons ? anyone think it's laid out nice and kept well ?

Not a picture or chair, not a brick or shelf has ever gone into that club that hasn't been chosen by the Male owner of the club

i think the decor at chams is very sleazy actaully, it looks like a guy has chosen everything in it !! ....thats not to say it isnt a good club ,and the meeters and greeters are pretty much female arent they ??

no thay are not all female the club owners lovely son help run it and some other men some ladys there too ... thay have a mix of people helping and all ages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone like Chameleons ? anyone think it's laid out nice and kept well ?

Not a picture or chair, not a brick or shelf has ever gone into that club that hasn't been chosen by the Male owner of the club

i think the decor at chams is very sleazy actaully, it looks like a guy has chosen everything in it !! ....thats not to say it isnt a good club ,and the meeters and greeters are pretty much female arent they ??

no thay are not all female the club owners lovely son help run it and some other men some ladys there too ... thay have a mix of people helping and all ages.

"

exactly which is why The OP was asking for some female input ??? you hsve to have both in my opinion ..ive already oferred to help privately in a small way and he didnt ask for a shag !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have to say that the only two things that matter in a club are the people and the cleanliness. My favourite for the layout and design is the Hellfire Club and a really high pole too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have to say that the only two things that matter in a club are the people and the cleanliness. My favourite for the layout and design is the Hellfire Club and a really high pole too!"

lovely club and i love the american truck ... its genius !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and no cliques allowed, they can make newcomers feel very unwanted very much like these forums one has to say lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have to say that the only two things that matter in a club are the people and the cleanliness. My favourite for the layout and design is the Hellfire Club and a really high pole too!

lovely club and i love the american truck ... its genius !!!! "

Lol yes really funny, still wouldn't go dogging though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have to say that the only two things that matter in a club are the people and the cleanliness. My favourite for the layout and design is the Hellfire Club and a really high pole too!

lovely club and i love the american truck ... its genius !!!!

Lol yes really funny, still wouldn't go dogging though!"

nor would i but u can simulate it there !! just thought i was a brilliant touch ..very unexpected

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

HI

were you actually asking for advice on a new club or just a lady to help be involved?

if its the lady good luck i am sure you will got some one from here messaging you

if its advice --- so many different tracks you can go down! we were talking about this the other night and we came to the conclusion that every swinging cpl thinks they know how to run a successful swing club - truth is we all want different things so its finding your market and appealing to that

on a personal basis we really dont like Chams, but we do like other clubs

and i think an earlier post was spot on when they said to you dont try and copy but try to be different - xtasia, chams, la chambre, liberty's are all good examples of clubs who share their memberships but people go to them for different reasons.

good luck and hope it works for you xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe what you need are partners who've never been to a swing club! That way they can't imitate

We are here! :P

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have xfactor styles of auditions I would love to come and watch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a thought and I'm not trying to trample on anyone's strawberries here but what happened to that £40-£50,000 licence that was being talked about for swingers clubs?

Because that could put a big hole in the profits if it's true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a thought and I'm not trying to trample on anyone's strawberries here but what happened to that £40-£50,000 licence that was being talked about for swingers clubs?

Because that could put a big hole in the profits if it's true."

Owch, then no more clubs in the UK I should imagine, off to Fun For Two it will be cheaper.

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By *ondonmale69 OP   Man
over a year ago

St Albans

ive been to:

fun times

my place

harlots

limelight

blackpool hotel

paradise spa

radlett

plus a few others, i went to fun times on friday ! Been there a few times...

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By *ondonmale69 OP   Man
over a year ago

St Albans

i have, see previous post !

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By *ondonmale69 OP   Man
over a year ago

St Albans

no thanks, keep em on ! im 100% serious about what im doing & money is no object in setting it up !

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By *ondonmale69 OP   Man
over a year ago

St Albans

i;ve also ben to candy club in amsterdam which i fogot to mention & another in spain which i forgot the name of x

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By *avfavMan
over a year ago

south lincs north cambs

Hey hold on a sec, ahem, guys can have good taste as well..... All chosen for them by a good woman pmsl.

I have not been to a club so can only summize. I think a club should be a place where you look to socialize and if you hit it off then all well and good. If you don't then you should be able still to have a good night. Its not about just sleeping with anyone its about sleeping with the right ones and that doesn't have to be the best looking the best body etc its the ones you click with and find sexy.

Its about quality not quality and love it or hate it women have the better taste in furnishings or gay men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hey hold on a sec, ahem, guys can have good taste as well..... All chosen for them by a good woman pmsl.

I have not been to a club so can only summize. I think a club should be a place where you look to socialize and if you hit it off then all well and good. If you don't then you should be able still to have a good night. Its not about just sleeping with anyone its about sleeping with the right ones and that doesn't have to be the best looking the best body etc its the ones you click with and find sexy.

Its about quality not quality and love it or hate it women have the better taste in furnishings or gay men

"

You are so right!! And that from a single guy. I've mailed you lol

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By *ondonmale69 OP   Man
over a year ago

St Albans

what about me ? i started it off looking for a woman's touch !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"what about me ? i started it off looking for a woman's touch ! "
it takes alot more then a womans touch .... you have to know your stuff ... this is not Homes and Gardens its a place that should be a mix or things to fire up peoples passion and desire.... as well as to rest after had week at work ... should be a place to arouse and where people like to be. jo xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"what about me ? i started it off looking for a woman's touch ! "

Arent we all on here looking for a womans touch !! LOL

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By *otnatured1Couple
over a year ago

Bexley

You should take a trip to Holland and visit Fun4Two....... simply the best club in the world..... and its up for sale for a cool £6.5...... million that is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thank you bunny, i think pearl necklace is a little out of date, i was at Fun Times on Friday & i've seen whats on offer to swingers, i hope i can do a lot better !

.

You've been to one club and you think you know it all?!

The one to beat is Chameleon's at Darlaston!

Good luck!

Isn't Darlaston a long way from NE London/ M25?

I don't think where it is matters. I think the point Pearl was making was... visit a few well established clubs with good reputations and see what it is they do... rather than going to one dive and thinking it's easy to beat that.

I think the idea of visiting a few well established clubs with good reputations (and stealing their good ideas) is an excellent one but there's no need to aspire to be better than a club a couple of hundred miles away straight off.

Not everyone is willing or able to travel long distances - even for the best experience.

Initially being better than any club within a 30 mile radius, then a 50 mile radius, then 100 miles and so on ought to be the plan, using any profits derived to build on and improve the venue/ experience."

yep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi we are looking to opening a new swinging club close to the M25 in N.E London & are looking for a female who is willing to help create & help run the club, please message me.

x "

Heard some chat up lines in me time, but this un takes the biscuit!

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By *ondonmale69 OP   Man
over a year ago

St Albans

nothing to do with any chat up lines, i am serious, the premises we have are perfect ! Im contacting the council today regarding a licence !

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By *loydandlucyCouple
over a year ago

newcastle

You been to the council yet ?

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham


"Why "beat" anything?"

Except for the drum for their particular club / tribe. (again)

I think it gets a bit counter-productive for a club when its followers are so zealously beating the drum for it...it's like the swinging equivilent of Jehovahs Witnesses at times on some of these threads.

Back on theme, and the point has been made that "something different" may be a good idea. There are plenty of swingers clubs based on a sauna / spa theme, plenty on a nightclub theme...so everyone's been there, done it, etc.

A trip to Munich took me to a club that's based on the old horny porny cinema theme. Except that this had CLASS! Clean, tidy, (well it is in Germany lol) and presentable. Plenty of couples, and single guys there too, a licenced bar, and waitress service, plush seating, areas reserved for couples only, and none of the sleeze or the "dirty old men" that the old style porn cinemas are renown for. It could be an alternative?

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By *heWolfMan
over a year ago

warwickshire


"money is no object in setting it up !"

Good, because nothing looks worse than a place with shitty furnishings from B&Q that look kinda similar to proper commercial fittings (like tables and barstools, or showers etc). There's a reason the commercial stuff costs 3 times more than the B&Q/Screwfix lookalike stuff, and that's because it doesn't fall apart after 3 months and make your new place look like a cheap shithole.

So, whatever your budget is, triple it now!

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