FabSwingers.com forum: Married Men

By *Ecouple113 OP Couple
over a year ago

hebburn

Why do we get the raw deal ladies. I have a couples profile with my wife(_ecouple113). We decided to put single ones on. She is inundated with invites every day. My profile tynesideguy4fun & is worded nice, has pics and references to our couples profile BUT all i get in response is SORRY DONT DO MARRIED MEN. Surely a married man is a safer bet than a single who is tomming it about all over the place. We have had lots of meets and made loads of friends on our couples profile but i aint having much luck on my own. can anyone shed any light on this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think its just the sheer fact single guys are ten a penny.

We have a rule that we dont meet half a couple. No particular reason for this but think if there ever was an issue it takes us out the equation lol

Single women will always get asked for meets as lots of couples are only looking for bi fems.

If i put us on meet today i will be very certain the males to female ration of people mailing us to meet would be 200 males to 1 fem lol

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

uh oh

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By *Ecouple113 OP Couple
over a year ago

hebburn

Care to explain the uh oh! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Care to explain the uh oh! lol"

Often, when a thread is regarding married people, it can turn a little heated.

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By *ortheastcoupleukCouple
over a year ago

easington were the sun dont shine

"Care to explain the uh oh! lol

Often, when a thread is regarding married people, it can turn a little heated.

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owa the moon oor lass cant fookin read

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Care to explain the uh oh! lol"

It's a special forum code for 'tin hats at the ready'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get what you mean but surely this is different when its a married couple swinging who have each others permission to go and play??????

We dont dop the married but partner not into men either lol but then as i said before we dont do half a couple whether it be the male or female half.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Care to explain the uh oh! lol

It's a special forum code for 'tin hats at the ready'

Got it in one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I get what you mean but surely this is different when its a married couple swinging who have each others permission to go and play??????

We dont dop the married but partner not into men either lol but then as i said before we dont do half a couple whether it be the male or female half."

Still, as you may be aware, threads change direction, the term married soon gets people commenting on anything related to married, then the thread loses it's original route and it descends into chaos as people show their emotions.

A bit like bareback threads, lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no idea what you mean about this bareback thread did someone take it a little off topic????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or, to ask another way, are Married Men welcome on this site? I've seen a few threads where it seems to me, that we are the lowest of the low.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Or, to ask another way, are Married Men welcome on this site? I've seen a few threads where it seems to me, that we are the lowest of the low."

See, already off topic,stand well back, here it comes.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If your wife doesnt know what your doing....Then i think they are right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If your wife doesnt know what your doing....Then i think they are right"

and if she does?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If your wife doesnt know what your doing....Then i think they are right

and if she does?"

Do you want a serious answer?

if so read on, if not, please pass on by

It could still be dodgy.

Example, I knew a couple where the guy went out shagging who he wanted, pretty much every weekend, his wife knew and allowed him to go about doing so, because it meant he was happy and therefore stuck around, after all, if he goes home to her then he is still hers.

However, she was not happy about it at all, heartbroken to say the least.

I'm not saying it's wrong, or right, not my place, but sharing a tale.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oi there are enough of us single guys looking for meets without you couples wanting to get in on the act! shouldn't be allowed lol

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"I get what you mean but surely this is different when its a married couple swinging who have each others permission to go and play??????

We dont dop the married but partner not into men either lol but then as i said before we dont do half a couple whether it be the male or female half.

A bit like bareback threads, lol.

FFs shag....you are not helping matters lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If your wife doesnt know what your doing....Then i think they are right

and if she does?"

when i was married my husband tried to revive our marriage by swinging - i was just really glad to be away from him he made me physically ill - suppose thats our reason for not meeting married other halves - if she doesnt want you what is the likelihood i will?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I get what you mean but surely this is different when its a married couple swinging who have each others permission to go and play??????

We dont dop the married but partner not into men either lol but then as i said before we dont do half a couple whether it be the male or female half.

A bit like bareback threads, lol.

FFs shag....you are not helping matters lol"

I know, oh what a strange mood I am in tonight.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"If your wife doesnt know what your doing....Then i think they are right

and if she does?"

We only have your word for that

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By *Ecouple113 OP Couple
over a year ago

hebburn

My wife does want me, i have her permission and as per my profile, she will want to verify and chat to the person i meet. this goes BOTH ways for her too. we have an excellent relationship but are purely adding another element to the swinging. No decieving whatsoever but we get tarred with a bog brush

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

then that would be like the men on here who send there wives out to get fucked by other men. I dont really have an issue with it., its just not our scene the half a couple thing.

I do however think the whole partner goping out and having a shag quite horny but thats another topic lol

As ive said its easier for us to just not meet half a couple whether they both be swingers or not.

Why do married men think its ok to come on a swingers site and meet womena nd couples for sex and expect everyone to be happy with it. Why should we the swinging community condone cheating within marriage????

For me and nicky swinging is about sharing each other and experiences of others with each other at the same time!!!

If i was to do this behind her back or her behind mine i think the fun of swinging would be lost for us!!

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

I just think that you're now among the sheer numbers of single men that are on here,the fact that you're married but can play with your wifes permission may still have a bearing on whether people will meet you too

Good luck though,the situation is probably made worse for you by knowing shes getting inundated with mail and you're not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understand exactly what your saying and if we was ever to meet half a couple the way your saying you conduct yourself is the way we would like it to go.

I think you being on as a guy is always going to be an uphill struggle to be honest its just the way of the world mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a male who already has a couples profile you should already know the answer, its simple really, supply and demand, even with your couples profile we’d hedge a bet you don’t get lots of messages from single women.

As for being married, that’s just unfortunate, but would assume, rightly or wrongly, that most people have encountered the male half of couples contacting them saying they are allowed to play alone when they aren’t, so become cautious and shy away from meeting married men full stop unless the wife is with him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My wife does want me, i have her permission and as per my profile, she will want to verify and chat to the person i meet. this goes BOTH ways for her too. we have an excellent relationship but are purely adding another element to the swinging. No decieving whatsoever but we get tarred with a bog brush"

Just out of interest who's idea was it to have seperate profiles?

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By *Ecouple113 OP Couple
over a year ago

hebburn

It was something that we both discussed(in bed lol) and if eitehr of us wasnt for the idea then i wouldnt be writing this. We just want to take the swinging thing to the next level if you like, no hidden agenda here. I take on board everything all of you guys have said and can see this for what it is now. thank you very much......anyone fancy meeting.....ONLY JOKING lol take care xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was something that we both discussed(in bed lol) and if eitehr of us wasnt for the idea then i wouldnt be writing this. We just want to take the swinging thing to the next level if you like, no hidden agenda here. I take on board everything all of you guys have said and can see this for what it is now. thank you very much......anyone fancy meeting.....ONLY JOKING lol take care xx"

Do you drive a red car by chance ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If your wife doesnt know what your doing....Then i think they are right

and if she does?

We only have your word for that

Indeed you do, although I am honest about the situation (perhaps making the issue worse....clearly honsety, while the best policy, doesn't actually get you anywhere). No way to verify as part of the deal is that she doesn't know anything about it but then again, you only my word for it. It would seeem the case then that Married men are not welcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If your wife doesnt know what your doing....Then i think they are right

and if she does?

We only have your word for that

You dont mention being married in your profile so where is the honesty in that?

we do know some bushes in brighton where you could pull tonight as there is little moonlight - they wont ask if you are married

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if you adopt the approach of the original poster and if your wife really does know get the person you are meeting to speak with your wife to settle any doubts.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

It's about CHOICE

We choose to play with SINGLE men.

We don't play with attached men in any way shape or form.

I've seen too many relationships get flushed down the pan because of seperate swinging.

Humans are not, by their very nature, genetically made up to be monogomus. Some swing, some don't, some cheat.

Those that swing without their partners consent are NOT swinging in MY opinion, they are just CHEATING.

Married couples who also play solo do so with their partners permission. Some may find this acceptable, some don't.

WE personally believe that swinging is something couples do together. To us, playing solo is nothing better than 1 on 1 sex, and that's not swinging if, as a couple, one half isn't there to enjoy it.

Part of the problem is that I've seen couples go through hell and high water and even divorce when one has stepped over the line or another person has got too close

In fact, a very dear friend of mine plays solo, with her partners permission. Her 30 year old marriage very nearly collapsed when she fell in love with someone else and he bought her a diamond necklace for valentines day.

Where do those that swing solo draw the line is a question that I can't understand let alone answer and therefore, I won't get involved.

Thats just my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's about CHOICE

We choose to play with SINGLE men.

We don't play with attached men in any way shape or form.

I've seen too many relationships get flushed down the pan because of seperate swinging.

Humans are not, by their very nature, genetically made up to be monogomus. Some swing, some don't, some cheat.

Those that swing without their partners consent are NOT swinging in MY opinion, they are just CHEATING.

Married couples who also play solo do so with their partners permission. Some may find this acceptable, some don't.

WE personally believe that swinging is something couples do together. To us, playing solo is nothing better than 1 on 1 sex, and that's not swinging if, as a couple, one half isn't there to enjoy it.

Part of the problem is that I've seen couples go through hell and high water and even divorce when one has stepped over the line or another person has got too close

Where do those that swing solo draw the line is a question that I can't understand let alone answer and therefore, I won't get involved.

Thats just my opinion."

Superb response _adchick.

Hits the nail on the head, as i have already said if nicky wasnt there to enjoy the encounter whether it be with male female or couple ot just wouldnt be the same.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Sorry _adchick... I agree with a lot of what you say. I understand where you are coming from with most of the rest of it... but this comment....

" To us, playing solo is nothing better than 1 on 1 sex, "

"nothing better than"... oh come on. Sex is sex. There’s no hierarchy is there? Do you move up the league table if you bag a partner?

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"Sorry _adchick... I agree with a lot of what you say. I understand where you are coming from with most of the rest of it... but this comment....

To us, playing solo is nothing better than 1 on 1 sex,

"nothing better than"... oh come on. Sex is sex. There’s no hierarchy is there? Do you move up the league table if you bag a partner?"

Now now Polo...... we don't very often disagree. But please, read the rest of the sentence

I said that solo playing, IF YOU ARE PART OF A COUPLE, isn't swinging, its 1 on 1 sex.

Swingles very much have a place in the swinging community but to ME, a couple is just that, a couple, to play solo is to be a single.

It's odd, I can't really explain it (and remember, I was a single bi fem once) but as part of a couple, I don't agree with solo swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course it is different when your partner approves of you playing on your own, your swinging, like minded people doing what they enjoy with thier partners consent.

However I think, many women and couples do prefer to meet singles who are single, don't know why but it just seems to be that way.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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"Sorry _adchick... I agree with a lot of what you say. I understand where you are coming from with most of the rest of it... but this comment....

To us, playing solo is nothing better than 1 on 1 sex,

"nothing better than"... oh come on. Sex is sex. There’s no hierarchy is there? Do you move up the league table if you bag a partner?

Now now Polo...... we don't very often disagree. But please, read the rest of the sentence

I said that solo playing, IF YOU ARE PART OF A COUPLE, isn't swinging, its 1 on 1 sex.

Swingles very much have a place in the swinging community but to ME, a couple is just that, a couple, to play solo is to be a single.

It's odd, I can't really explain it (and remember, I was a single bi fem once) but as part of a couple, I don't agree with solo swinging."

I totally agree 1-2-1 sex isn't swinging.... well not when it's two singles. I still debate slightly the other way when it is one half of a couple playing solo - as for some couples knowing their pertner is with someone else is a huge turn on (not just cuckolds) and this adds to their sex life.

It was the appearance of the word "better" and I was quite suprised to see you type it.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

To answer the OP…. I tend not to meet one half of a couple because generally I don’t like clock-watchers and in the past I have found hubby may have freedom but has to report back by x o’clock and is very rarely allowed an overnight pass. I prefer a full evening of entertainment and the option for the fun to carry on throughout the night.

However, I have played with one or two guys from couples who play solo… and the funny thing about it is… it ended up being the wives calling me to come over and keep hubby company whilst they went out on their meets. These have usually been couples where I first met both halves together and then played solo at a later date.

I also recall one time when the wifey’s meet didn’t go so well so she wanted her hubby back to sort her out…. which understandably he’s not gonna argue about, but you can imagine where it left me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Since the subject title is

MARRIED MEN

Those who don't approve of married males playing as swingers without thier partners knowledge ..... are there any circumstances when you do think it would be acceptable ?

Those who do approve, is it under certain circumstances or just doesn't matter.

Not looking for the arguments the subject is well documented on here with views for and against, this is a question about if it is ALWAYS acceptable or ALWAYS non-acceptable no matter what the reason ?

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By *ickedWWoman
over a year ago

Chester

Nowt wrong with married men..

I prefere to meet married men rather than single guys..

The more baggage the better too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Since the subject title is

MARRIED MEN

Those who don't approve of married males playing as swingers without thier partners knowledge ..... are there any circumstances when you do think it would be acceptable ?

Those who do approve, is it under certain circumstances or just doesn't matter.

This guy is saying he is married,they swing together and they swing as singles and they are both willing to confirm to potential meets that they have their partners consent to do this.

The OP is not cheating on his partner as he has his partners blessing and he is and has been totally honest about this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yea and in an earlier post I supported wholeheartedly what he was doing, my question was unrelated to that but still related to the topic title in general

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

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"yea and in an earlier post I supported wholeheartedly what he was doing, my question was unrelated to that but still related to the topic title in general"

Oh come on... people put all types of stuff as a title... it's not what the post was about and once it goes down this path you know the guy won't be getting any more answers to his request for opinions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"yea and in an earlier post I supported wholeheartedly what he was doing, my question was unrelated to that but still related to the topic title in general

Totally agree with you there,post will be once again be hijacked about married men cheating.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

* nods *

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fair point I was just wondering because I am married but my wife doesn't know I am a swinger, I wondered if that made a difference to anyone as I believe I have circumstances which make the fact immaterial

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the OP is genuine and has any sort of experiance in the swinging world it begs the question

"What the fuck did you really expect?"

Through no fault of their own the single guy has always been marginalised and as such it's invariably very difficult having any real fun.

Most couples will percieve any married guy playing on his own as a cheat. For some couples this will not be a problem but others will treat you like a leper.

Sadly for you the reality of what you seek is possibly about to bite you on the arse. If you are seriously looking to "take this to new level" then what you are about to get may well be a very bitter pill to swallow.

Your partner will be fighting them off. She will, if she chooses to, be able to fuck a new guy, new guys, new couple every night of the week. In fact she may never need sex with you ever again.

You on the other hand will be extremely lucky if you meet anyone at all and will probably be reduced to starting threads like this one.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"Sorry _adchick... I agree with a lot of what you say. I understand where you are coming from with most of the rest of it... but this comment....

To us, playing solo is nothing better than 1 on 1 sex,

"nothing better than"... oh come on. Sex is sex. There’s no hierarchy is there? Do you move up the league table if you bag a partner?

Now now Polo...... we don't very often disagree. But please, read the rest of the sentence

I said that solo playing, IF YOU ARE PART OF A COUPLE, isn't swinging, its 1 on 1 sex.

Swingles very much have a place in the swinging community but to ME, a couple is just that, a couple, to play solo is to be a single.

It's odd, I can't really explain it (and remember, I was a single bi fem once) but as part of a couple, I don't agree with solo swinging.

It was the appearance of the word "better" and I was quite suprised to see you type it. "

I apologise for the word 'better'.... I could probably have worded it slightly differently. But you now know what I mean.

Maddie xxxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Speaking as a "Ten a Penny" single guy, I can assure you I've done precious little "tomming it about all over the place" in the last year. (except for last Friday of course - which was like the monsoon rains arriving in a particularly parched & dusty desert!)

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over a year ago

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

" Surely a married man is a safer bet than a single who is tomming it about all over the place. "

I must not flame, I must not flame...

this is the bit that caught my eye from the OP..... wow!!!

thanks for chucking us "singles" under the bus... appriciate it!!!

if you are playing as a "single" then you are not higher up the pole so to speak than the rest of us..... you still have to do the things that the rest of us do which is work bloody hard at it!!!

and as for "tomming it about all over the place" well..thanks for playing the assumption game!!! not all singles do.... just like not all married men who play as singles are doing so without consent

in the end people are here for fun... and people can choose whoever they like for whatever reason they please... such is life I am afraid....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

through our experience as couples we have met many single guys at parties and clubs and have forged meets from there or even had playtime at these parties and clubs.

I think rather than sulk your getting none you should take _abios advice and just work hard it.

We can confirm from a party a few years back now that _abio is a true gent and was as good as a single guy can be. nicky had a loveley play with _abio at a house party and she thouroughly enjoyed herself with a very considerate guy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With apologies if this has been mentioned already - as we don't have time to read all the posts... But this are our thoughts on one particular sort of single-but-married guy you get approaching you, the 'she doesn't like/won't have sex with me so I need to go elsewhere' type... We have to ask these guys, maybe it's just YOU she doesn't like sex with... If you can't satisfy a partner of many years, why would we think you'd be a good addition to our fun and games?

et al.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lets take gender out of this folks: What if:

In a happy steady marriage/relationship one partner does not want/like sex but the other has 'normal' needs? If that partner admits 'playing away' it could kill the marriage, but if they dont satisfy those need it could drive them apart anyway. The only solution is to 'cheat' as the sanctimonious would label it ...

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By *aughty_kittyWoman
over a year ago

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"Lets take gender out of this folks: What if:

yawwwwn, if you loved the person you would not even think of playing away....

the excuses people come up with are a joke and shamefull

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

like i said, sanctimonious!

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By *aughty_kittyWoman
over a year ago

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"like i said, sanctimonious! "

no the words your looking for is honest, faithfull, trustworthy.

cheaters = DIShonest UNfaithfull UNtrustworthy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think it’s called opinion, if sex is so important to some people, then a relationship/marriage with no sex is doomed to fail.

If like some people say, it’s perfect apart from the sex, then communicate, tell them you have needs, and be honest, it’s a no brainer really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

awww arent humans great!!

in my eyes and i repeat in my eyes, i wouldnt entertain a married/attached guy but thats my choice! i see it as cheatin and even if his wife/partner runs him to the meet i still see it as cheatin in my honest opinion!! but luckily we all have choices and opinions etc and whats a no no to some is ideal for another!! xx

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

" If that partner admits 'playing away' it could kill the marriage, "

Not telling the partner and getting found out will not only kill a marriage, it kills the trust and confidence of the other person. It humiliates them and isolates them.

It can lead to suicide, depression and anger that you will never have seen before.

To all married and 'playing away cus my partner can't won't......'

THINK what you are doing. Cus it's not just one life you destroy, especially if you have children!

And the chances are, if your partner doesn't want sex, they probably don't want sex with YOU. So your marriage is in more trouble than you though.

And I'm not being sanctimonious..... I'm speaking from the experience of being cheated on.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"Think it’s called opinion, if sex is so important to some people, then a relationship/marriage with no sex is doomed to fail.

If like some people say, it’s perfect apart from the sex, then communicate, tell them you have needs, and be honest, it’s a no brainer really.

Bloody well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So, is there a difference between those who fancy a bit on the side and think they can get away with it, those who have that one drink too many, and those who dont intend to but it just happened..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, is there a difference between those who fancy a bit on the side and think they can get away with it, those who have that one drink too many, and those who dont intend to but it just happened..?"

sorry but its still cheatin and makin excuses or circumstancial reasonings dont cut it its still cheatin!! as humans we have self control well maybe not all of us but the majority!! xx

so no i dont think there is a difference its all bad in my opinion xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The difference is that some people PLAN to cheat ....surely thats worse?

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over a year ago

"So, is there a difference between those who fancy a bit on the side and think they can get away with it, those who have that one drink too many, and those who dont intend to but it just happened..?"

Of course there’s a difference, although it’s still cheating, but joining a swingers site can only ever be seen as premeditated.

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over a year ago

"awww arent humans great!!

We don’t see it as cheating when couples play separately, but have often wondered why couples would want to play separately when they can do it together, this is just our opinion, but to us that sounds more like an open relationship than swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yup sounds about right! xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The difference is that some people PLAN to cheat ....surely thats worse?"

premeditated or spur of the moment it all boils down to the same thing !

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over a year ago

"awww arent humans great!!

It could be that the couple enjoy every aspect of sex, or certain aspects more than others.

Say, one partner goes out on a meet whilst the other is home waiting for the other to return, all that time knowing what is going on but wondering exactly what, then when the travelling partner gets home they talk about it, and get all excited together, I guess in some ways it could be related to a form of cuckold.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"awww arent humans great!!

It could be that the couple enjoy every aspect of sex, or certain aspects more than others.

very nice spin there looney!! never thought of it that way!! but still no my cup o tea!! xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It could be that the couple enjoy every aspect of sex, or certain aspects more than others.

We have tried this once when I went to a club with a regular playmate without Mac. He couldn't wait to strip me off when I got home and great fun was had as I told him what we'd got up to. Not something we would want to do all the time as we like to swing together but in a trusting relationship he feels OK to play separately occasionally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Understand all that, but wouldn't seperate rooms be a better option, as both would have stories to tell?

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"The difference is that some people PLAN to cheat ....surely thats worse?"

So as a married man, did you PLAN to join a swinging site, or just PLAN to cheat on your wife?

In YOUR opinion, which is worse.... joining a swinging site and having premeditated sex .... or... going out and having random sex on a Friday night when you've had a few beers?

I'm not being ciritical, I'm actually interested.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Understand all that, but wouldn't seperate rooms be a better option, as both would have stories to tell? "

It's not me doing it, so I can't answer that.

It could be that they want to play the best they can, and perhaps not getting out because of children then they may take that option.

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over a year ago

"Understand all that, but wouldn't seperate rooms be a better option, as both would have stories to tell?

It's not me doing it, so I can't answer that.

It could be that they want to play the best they can, and perhaps not getting out because of children then they may take that option."

Not knocking the way people do things, each to their own and all that, and can see the point about having kids, but why not have an early night with your partner in that scenario? just don’t understand the need to play separately that’s all, when we first decided to dip our toes in this lifestyle, it was to ad something different to our sex life, for an example, me meeting men on my own just sounds more like trying to duplicate what i already have rather than adding to it.

Suppose it just strengthens the fact that we all like different things.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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We wouldn't enjoy it without each other.

One of the reasons we enjoy it is to SEE the other enjoying themselves..we wouldn't be able to do that if we played seperate.

But back to OP question, we don't play with one half of couples either, wether the wife knows about it or not.

But I am sure there are people about who do.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

Due to Ol being bi and kid being gay, we only ever play with M/F couples where the male partner is bi, this way, both of us are guaranteed fun at the same time.

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over a year ago

"Understand all that, but wouldn't seperate rooms be a better option, as both would have stories to tell?

It's not me doing it, so I can't answer that.

It could be that they want to play the best they can, and perhaps not getting out because of children then they may take that option.

Suppose it just strengthens the fact that we all like different things.

They may well have many an early night regular, but seek something a little more occasionally.

I can't really answer all your questions, as I am only looking for logical reasons rather than answering from experience.

The facts are, that most couples here are here to add another dimension to our relationships, that could be through many ways, straight swap, foursomes, bi play, soft swap, same room swap, separate room swap, cuckold, threesomes, and so on, I imagine some would see it that if they're to have sex with another person, then so long as everyone agrees, it really doesn't matter whether that's together or separately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lets take gender out of this folks: What if:

Amazing how you posted this right after our posting... We ask again, how crap are you in bed that your wife doesn't like sex?? Oh, and if it is a medical reason, as if often cited, how low must a person feel if they can't have sex through no fault of their own, then only to compund it by their loving partner showing their support by playing away?

By the way, when you use throw away terms like 'sanctimoniuos' in a feeble reverse psychology attempt to stop people telling you what you are, a cheat who is potentially breaking the heart of someone who loves them, you just make yourself look pathetic.

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By *aughty_kittyWoman
over a year ago

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"Lets take gender out of this folks: What if:

HIGH FIVE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Understand all that, but wouldn't seperate rooms be a better option, as both would have stories to tell? "

Mac was doing his own thing elsewhere -not in the next room but still same principle as we both had our stories to share. ( I'm not really interested in the footy but don't tell him!)

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By *uicyJoWoman
over a year ago

northampton

"To answer the OP…. I tend not to meet one half of a couple because generally I don’t like clock-watchers and in the past I have found hubby may have freedom but has to report back by x o’clock and is very rarely allowed an overnight pass. I prefer a full evening of entertainment and the option for the fun to carry on throughout the night.

As being the other half of a couple who play seperately as well as together I have personally found that that a lot of couples do this without taking into consideration the whole "clock watching" issue. It can be brilliant but issues can arise so I can understand why some steer clear of people in a partnership. My issue which frustrates me is women asking my partner to go and sort them out at an hours notice like he is a single man and has no other considerations and basically as ladies on here have so much choice if he declines you can pretty much guarentee they wont contact him again. But this is a small complication in a brilliant lifestyle. I think any couples playing seperately as well as those who meet them need to be aware of the drawbacks and make allowances as I suspect it would be easy for simple frustratons to be blown out of all proportion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you for enforcing my point so clearly ...

Definition

sanctimonious adjective

/?sæ?k.t?'m??.ni.?s/US pronunciation symbol/-'mo?-/ adj formal disapproving

acting as if morally better than others

sanctimonious religious leaders preaching about morality

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ok so your a potential possible cheat who can use a dictionary lol!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really. The point is that all of us on here will be disapproved of by both elements of this membership and society in general. We none of us have the right to criticise to the point of rudeness or piousness. Males 'cheating' are not different or any worse than females doing so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it all the same to me whether they are male or female if they cheatin under no matter what reasoning its still cheating but thats their choice its always goin to be a subject that gets opinions up whether the rest know the full story or not which in the wives or husbands or partners case usually not!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why is a single guy 'tomming it about all over the place' but not a married one? surely if your a guy meeting alone, married or single you are here for the same reason so why do you feel a safter bet than a guy whos not married?

and if you have lots of meets as a couple but not alone may i suggest you get rid of the single profile and meet as a couple!

tomming it about indeed, does that little dig go to single females to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"it all the same to me whether they are male or female if they cheatin under no matter what reasoning its still cheating but thats their choice its always goin to be a subject that gets opinions up whether the rest know the full story or not which in the wives or husbands or partners case usually not!!

But just because your wife doesn't know your swinging are you necessarily cheating and if you are is it always a bad thing ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What if...

Say there was an option on the site whereby a married guy who did have permission to play on his own could have his profile verified by his wife, say by calling a number or having a photo uploaded with a sign with the both of them in the pic?

Would that stop people assuming that the guy was cheating? Would it improve people's opinion of that guy?

I'm in this situation, my wife is very happy for me to play away so long as I'm responsible and honest, and whilst I've not had any knock-backs because I'm in this situation (well not that they've said) but I also do respect people's preference when they say no married guys in their profiles, so there are a lot that I would love to get to know but simply don't mail.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thats actually a good idea when you think about it!

still no my ideal situation but whats my poison is someone elses cuppa xx

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

Or link the two profiles, so that any messages sent or received by each of the singles profiles, are seen and read by both?

Thats probably far toooooo complicated but was just a mad thought!

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over a year ago

"Or link the two profiles, so that any messages sent or received by each of the singles profiles, are seen and read by both?

Thats probably far toooooo complicated but was just a mad thought!

Thats a good idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What if...

A friend of mine who though married plays alone as well as a couple, he has a single profile with a link to thier couples profile.

On both profiles he has a picture of his wife holding a piece of paper with "marc can play on his own" written on it.

It's sex not rocket science

That said he struggles to get meets on his own.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"Or link the two profiles, so that any messages sent or received by each of the singles profiles, are seen and read by both?

Thats probably far toooooo complicated but was just a mad thought!

Thats a good idea

Oohhheeeerrrrrrrr...........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Linking the profiles is a great idea, although to be fair it wouldn't be that hard for somebody who wanted to be sneaky to get online and clear out the messages from the couple's account before the mrs saw them!

I guess in the end it still won't be for everyone, which is a shame really. I much prefer to be honest and open about it, especially as my other half is genuinely ok with it, but I can see that there will be less honest people who will hide the fact that they are married just to get in with those couples who don't want married men...

I think you can only really have fun with people who are into you as you are, not as you are pretending to be..

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

If you have lots of meets with your wife are you not tomming it like single guys do?

Also why is a married man a safer bet than a single guy? I fail to see your point on married men being a safer bet than single men. What do you mean by that? Married men are better at sex than single men? Married men are less likely to be timewasters than single men? I just don't get the point you are trying to make.

How can women be sure as married man are not cheating on your wife or do they just take your word for it? I am not saying it is but your couples profile could be fake.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

Also I see in your coupldes profile you don't meet single men. Nothing wrong with that at all and it is you and your wifes preference.

However now you also have a single male profile you are finding it difficult to get meets without your wife. Welcome to the world of the single male lol. It is much harder for single men to get meets than couples or single women.

You have to remember single men outnumber single women and couples about 100 to 1.

If you are having lots of meets with your wife why let it get to you that you can't get meets as a single? Your wife gets lots of offers due to the sheer amount of single guys on here.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

The OP is not cheating on his partner as he has his partners blessing and he is and has been totally honest about this."

Has he? He failed to mention in his single profile he was married.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"The difference is that some people PLAN to cheat ....surely thats worse?"

No. Cheating is cheating. It does not matter if you planned it or it just happened because you were d*unk. People use the "it was because I was d*unk" excuse far too often for all sorts of things not just cheating. If you may just happen to cheat when you drink then maybe you should not drink?

I dislike people who use the I was d*unk excuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i see the usual monthly married men battering thread is here again!!!

and before i get the standard reply i have loads of sex at home, but i love the thrill of meeting new people!!

Like many people have said its about choices, i'm married and cheating, but i'm upfront with anyone i talk to from the start and its on my profile so they know what they are getting and if its not for them then i wish them luck and no hard feelings, but like someone said earlier a lot people prefer me to a single guy because they know i'm not gonna cause them trouble

This site is a swinging site but also a site where people can enjoy all kinds of sex and make friends, if cheating married men weren't allowed to 'SWING' then ban them from the site!!! i respect everyone's opinion but this kind thread is getting very boring now, us cheating married know we are doing wrong!! but its OUR choice

tin hat is now on !!!

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By *aughty_kittyWoman
over a year ago

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"i see the usual monthly married men battering thread is here again!!!

and before i get the standard reply i have loads of sex at home, but i love the thrill of meeting new people!!

tin hat is now on !!!"

your poor wife

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i am curious to know how many of the people who have slated / dismissed the idea of playing with a married man, would equally dismiss / slate the idea of playing with a married bi woman, in the same way?

I am happy if my partner plays alone, so long as I know about it in advance and have a say in who it is with, i would however not allow lots of meets with the same lady, as this could potentially lead to a relationship forming that is more than sexy fun and then the complications could / would start!

Allowing my partner to play alone is not a reflection on his lack of bedroom skills either, he is quite simply awesome in that area, which is why i forgive his lack of domestic skills!!! lol ( joking......a bit! )

just my tuppenth, its all down to choice

Happy swinging folks!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"i am curious to know how many of the people who have slated / dismissed the idea of playing with a married man, would equally dismiss / slate the idea of playing with a married bi woman, in the same way?

If we played with women, no, we would not want to play with an attached one either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither slated nor dismissed on here but we do not "deliberately" play with married men or women playing away.

We have been caught out on occasion in a club but given all the facts up front we would always choose to pass them by

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just my tuppenth, its all down to choice

Happy swinging folks!

I turned down a very sexy looking woman the other day that wanted to play with us, she openly admitted her partner didn't know as he was away in Afghanistan, I didnt even show Sasha the mail, we feel the same on this, it is not the first time we have declined women playing away and it wont be the last, we will never knowingly play with a man or woman who is cheating on a partner.

Whilst I am married and my wife doesnt know I am a swinger I am not a cheat and won't condone it, each to thier own but it's not something me and Sasha do

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"i see the usual monthly married men battering thread is here again!!!

and before i get the standard reply i have loads of sex at home, but i love the thrill of meeting new people!!

tin hat is now on !!!"

Married men who are cheating are NOT swingers.....

They are CHEATS.

Swinging is about honesty and trust, something which anyone who is married and 'playing away' knows nothing about.

Just because someone choses to hang a 'swinging' hat on what they do, does not make it acceptable. Why don't married and playing away just own up to the fact that they are CHEATING?

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"I turned down a very sexy looking woman the other day that wanted to play with us, she openly admitted her partner didn't know as he was away in Afghanistan, I didnt even show Sasha the mail, we feel the same on this, it is not the first time we have declined women playing away and it wont be the last, we will never knowingly play with a man or woman who is cheating on a partner.

Good on you Jed.

I think it's disgusting that someone will cheat whilst their partner is away at war.

It's one of the most deplorable acts I can think of. I work for the Military and I know how much these men (and women) miss their families and their loved ones.

If a partner cheats whilst they are in Afghanistan is a despicable act of selfishness and dishonesty.

In my book, if you marry into the Military, you stay faithful in the Military.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

like i said its our choice!!! i never say i'm swinging and i dont excuse what i'm doing, yes i'm cheating and i'm a arsehole and a wanker buts thats my choice

i'm here to have a laugh and if there is sex as well then great.

and must check out the mean of swinging in a dictionary !!!

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By *aughty_kittyWoman
over a year ago

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"like i said its our choice!!! i never say i'm swinging and i dont excuse what i'm doing, yes i'm cheating and i'm a arsehole and a wanker buts thats my choice

i'm here to have a laugh and if there is sex as well then great.

and must check out the mean of swinging in a dictionary !!!"

i read up on what swinging ment, it did not mention, liars dishonesty, untrustworthy, sly people? maybe i am readin the wrong thing

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By *aughty_kittyWoman
over a year ago

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"like i said its our choice!!! i "

its a shame ur wife dont have a choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what did it say then

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By *aughty_kittyWoman
over a year ago

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it said, people who have sex with other people with out their partners knowing should be ashamed of themself and are going to helllllllllllllllll

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol i'm on my way there already kitty !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"what did it say then"

Is It CHEATING to Have Sex with Someone Other Than Your Spouse, Partner, Lover when SWINGING?

That certainly depends on how you define cheating. It’s kind of hard for you two to be cheating on each other while you’re BOTH enjoying something together, isn’t it?

Cheating is a breaking of the sacred trust in your relationship. When you’re both enjoying a fun, new adventure, it’s not possible to “cheat” on each other.

But BEWARE. While it’s not technically cheating, there are a few things that could go very wrong if you’re not careful.

You MUST have excellent and very open communication, and a great, solid relationship, or this will tear your relationship apart. Swinging, or the broader concept of an “open relationship” is definitely not a crutch to drag out a failing relationship. It can only work for a couple whose relationship is steady and strong, and can withstand the emotional torrent that can be unleashed when you bring new people into your intimate relationship.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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just my tuppenth, its all down to choice

Happy swinging folks!

Whilst I am married and my wife doesnt know I am a swinger I am not a cheat and won't condone it, each to thier own but it's not something me and Sasha do

Techinally would that mean that you are actually cheating on your wife and Sasha is cheating with you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whilst I am married and my wife doesnt know I am a swinger I am not a cheat and won't condone it, each to thier own but it's not something me and Sasha do

Sorry I am confused...are you married to Sasha or another woman?

Do you have a wife and Sasha is a swing partner?

I'd read your profile but you have me blocked for some reason.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ahhhh sussed it, I think, you and your wife are separated but never divorced, and she knows you have another partner.

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By *zMaleMan
over a year ago

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Whilst I am married and my wife doesnt know I am a swinger I am not a cheat and won't condone it, each to thier own but it's not something me and Sasha do

Sorry I am confused...are you married to Sasha or another woman?

Do you have a wife and Sasha is a swing partner?

I'd read your profile but you have me blocked for some reason. "

REALLY REALLY confused...... I have read through the war and peace of a profile and nowhere does it mention anything of a Mrs JED and as you work at the club I'm assuming that Mrs Jed is at home while you're cheating on her. So why do it if you don't condone it ??????????? Doesn't sound good to me

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By *aughty_kittyWoman
over a year ago

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Whilst I am married and my wife doesnt know I am a swinger I am not a cheat and won't condone it, each to thier own but it's not something me and Sasha do

Sorry I am confused...are you married to Sasha or another woman?

Do you have a wife and Sasha is a swing partner?

I'd read your profile but you have me blocked for some reason.

silly he just not devorcied her,

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By *zMaleMan
over a year ago

penzance

Whilst I am married and my wife doesnt know I am a swinger I am not a cheat and won't condone it, each to thier own but it's not something me and Sasha do

Sorry I am confused...are you married to Sasha or another woman?

Do you have a wife and Sasha is a swing partner?

I'd read your profile but you have me blocked for some reason.

silly he just not devorcied her, "

OHHHHHHHH silly me and I thought married men never cheat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope I have never divorced her, she left me 12 years ago and we have not spoken since, so Yes I am married but my swinging lifestyle is nothing to do with her.

Shown really as an example that there does in fact exist circumstances where married men can play without thier wife knowing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"ahhhh sussed it, I think, you and your wife are separated but never divorced, and she knows you have another partner.

It's only took a week for someone to work it out

Well done you win the bunny

so in truth I have been married for 36 years and a swinger for the last 10 years

Oh and to those who asked yes I live with Sasha we have been living together for a little over 12 months after meeting at Chameleons

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

assuming there will be no ruby wedding party then!!

do you not consider a divorce now you been seperated as long? just curious!xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I said Jed I'm blocked, so never having seen your profile I can only guess xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh and to those who asked yes I live with Sasha we have been living together for a little over 12 months after meeting at Chameleons"

Surely it's longer than that. Didn't I stop at your B&B a few years back?

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By *allenAngel74Man
over a year ago

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As for the whole "Male half of MArried couple playing on his own" argument, I would simply ask the couples that ALSO seek single females:

"If the sngle female was part of a married couple (permission to play on her own and all that) would you say yes to her?"

Its simple - if you say yes, then you can't have a go at the male half.

If you say no, then fair enough - but then you can't have a go at single males that seek couples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s already been answered, there’s no difference, just that this thread was/is about married men.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"ahhhh sussed it, I think, you and your wife are separated but never divorced, and she knows you have another partner.

It's only took a week for someone to work it out

The first time you mentioned it ( on another thread )it was figured out, I just couldn't be bothered mentioning it

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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other threads that should have said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There seems to be a lot of mention about married men who as part of a couple are allowed to play away, etc...

I was of the thinking that when a couple put 'NO MARRIED MEN' (or married women for that matter), do they mean all married men, or just the cheating ones? We always assumed it was the cheating ones, but I guess some folks might not be comfortable with any 'married but with permission' singles, fearing a fallout if that couple do have problems.

And thinking about it, swinging is very risky. I have been involved in the scene on and off since back when the internet started and all there was was the Uk Couples room on AOL, and have seen literally dozens of relationships split up, if not necessarily through swinging, then swinging in some way being a catalyst... and on many of those occasions others have been caught by the blast.

Maybe the danger is a subliminal reason why a lot of us do it? The reasons are complicated, and subjective, that's for sure.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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For us it is both married men who's wife does know and married men who's wife doesn't know.

We have had two experiences that didn't turn out so well, so we decided that as that wasn't fun, we would rather not be in that situation again.

We try and do more checks now and only meet single men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"assuming there will be no ruby wedding party then!!

do you not consider a divorce now you been seperated as long? just curious!xx"

I was going to get a divorce some years ago when me and my ex considered getting married but we spent the money on a holiday instead.

I would get a divorce if Sasha wanted to marry me but if she is wise she won't

I did look into it and because we have lived apart for the last 12 years and because I can get her to sign the consent papers instantly then it would take about 14 days and £28 to do it at the local magistrates court without even having to appear there. Basically I just can't be bothered because it doesn't affect me, and obviously she can't be bothered either

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over a year ago

"ahhhh sussed it, I think, you and your wife are separated but never divorced, and she knows you have another partner.

The first time you mentioned it ( on another thread )it was figured out, I just couldn't be bothered mentioning it

I worked that one out, nobody cared lol and can't say as I blame them, it's a bit like "what katie did next" I don't know and don't care what she did before let alone next

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"ahhhh sussed it, I think, you and your wife are separated but never divorced, and she knows you have another partner.

The first time you mentioned it ( on another thread )it was figured out, I just couldn't be bothered mentioning it

I worked that one out, nobody cared lol and can't say as I blame them, it's a bit like "what katie did next" I don't know and don't care what she did before let alone next "

For me it was more waiting to see how long it would be before you said oiiiiiiii havn't you seen what I said !!!

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over a year ago

"assuming there will be no ruby wedding party then!!

do you not consider a divorce now you been seperated as long? just curious!xx

I was going to get a divorce some years ago when me and my ex considered getting married but we spent the money on a holiday instead.

I would get a divorce if Sasha wanted to marry me but if she is wise she won't

but what would happen god forbid if you snuffed it?? im a bugger for havin legal affairs in order! x

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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She would be entitled to everything?

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over a year ago

"assuming there will be no ruby wedding party then!!

do you not consider a divorce now you been seperated as long? just curious!xx

I was going to get a divorce some years ago when me and my ex considered getting married but we spent the money on a holiday instead.

I would get a divorce if Sasha wanted to marry me but if she is wise she won't

but what would happen god forbid if you snuffed it?? im a bugger for havin legal affairs in order! x"

My lovely and I were in the same situation, he died ... his estranged wife got all the insurance policies, pensions and his money... I kept the house and the cars, but even then she had a 1/3 share if she wished to take it.

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over a year ago

"assuming there will be no ruby wedding party then!!

do you not consider a divorce now you been seperated as long? just curious!xx

I was going to get a divorce some years ago when me and my ex considered getting married but we spent the money on a holiday instead.

I would get a divorce if Sasha wanted to marry me but if she is wise she won't

but what would happen god forbid if you snuffed it?? im a bugger for havin legal affairs in order! x

I once had a job which required me to advise people to make a will.

Many of the people I had to advise had no money or property etc.

You never know how much your worth till the moment you die, if a council light falls on you, if a factory wall falls on you, a police car involved in chasing someone else runs you over etc etc

You may just be worth millions at the moment of your death.

Be assured I have an airtight Will in service which leaves everything to my daughters, there is an amendment to it which will give a % to Sasha albeit that we have only been together a short time so that % will rise in the future.

I hope my wife hasn't done the same though

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By *ord and ladyCouple
over a year ago

around Glasgow

"Why do we get the raw deal ladies. I have a couples profile with my wife(_ecouple113). We decided to put single ones on. She is inundated with invites every day. My profile tynesideguy4fun & is worded nice, has pics and references to our couples profile BUT all i get in response is SORRY DONT DO MARRIED MEN. Surely a married man is a safer bet than a single who is tomming it about all over the place. We have had lots of meets and made loads of friends on our couples profile but i aint having much luck on my own. can anyone shed any light on this "
we have had requests from guys alledgedly like yourself and we would have no hesitation in meeting them if thats what we are looking for,the only stumbling block is when we ask to confirm with the female the excuses the length of both your arms crop up.out the country at the moment ,at work not keeping too well cant get a signal on her phone as ive just tried.i can go on and on.hope this sheds some light for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is it people think that a married man swinging is unacceptable, but yet no one complains if its a married women ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why is it people think that a married man swinging is unacceptable, but yet no one complains if its a married women ???

if you scroll up the post a few have said its the same thing male or female or inbetween its still cheating x

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By *adyPenelopeWoman
over a year ago

worcestershire

I read enough messages to get a gist of what is being said, so apologies if I am repeating anyone elses thoughts at this point.

My first reaction is that I really would not want to have to talk to anyone else to get permission to fuck someone who has approached me. Talk about embarrasing if you are rejected! Especially if it wasn't even your idea in the first place.

The other reason, or shall I say one of the reasons why I don't play with marred men is because I like to get to know my victims and have regular meets where possible. Life is complicated enough without meeting up with someone who has a family to tend and care for before my needs. I want to be able to SNAP my fingers and be impulsive (at least once a year!).

So for me it's a no go with or without permission.

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over a year ago

"I read enough messages to get a gist of what is being said, so apologies if I am repeating anyone elses thoughts at this point.

So for me it's a no go with or without permission."

All of the above are excellent reasons to not want to meet a married guy! And in the end, I guess that's what it comes down to, we all have our own reasons for who we will and won't meet, and I would hope that everyone would be happy to respect each other's choices.

I would like to see some more features on the site that might help people make their choices, as I've already said earlier in the thread, but in the end it still comes down to "will I or won't I", and us married men can moan about the "won't"s until we're blue in the face without changing anything.

Personally, I would rather be honest about me, respectful of people's position and only ever meet one or two people from here than start berating people just because I don't fit what others want.

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over a year ago

i whole heartedly agree with everything your saying, but in our position our greatest asset is patience. there are couples and single ladies out there who do want a married man as they do recognise the safer element and as a married man im viewed a little bit more sensible. most couples and ladies need to be courted and if your just asking them for a fuck then your going to get nowhere

patience

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