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I saw a users status say 'why are men so abusive when rejected on here'

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By *niqueWizard OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London

And as a somatic therapist, i thought i would offer my insight into that...

If you feel you would like to ask any questions, or state your experience of it, i invite you to with earnest.

Here is what i wrote:

Gladly, ill try to make it as simple to understand as possible.

So, think kids and their innocent observations of the world, and how profound they can be... Kids work from their gut/heart instinct... thats why its so profound...

So when we experience pain in the form of needing love which shows itself always in the form of connection... the first wound a child usually has is when they are 2-3, and the parents try to help them become a little more independant, so move them into their own room, or something similar... and when they are young, they dont have the language and comprehension of these things which forces them into their subconscious... which is what most people today work from, cos they think their mind is who they are, when actually its better described as your pattern recognition system which alerts you to potential injury based on events you would have seen and acted upon when younger...

the problem with it, is its meant to be for your gut, and purely momentary... however, as we are forced into our subconscious based on the society that we live in which promotes distrust and fear...

this is where gender roles influence things based on the lack of undestanding between where divine femine energy/frequency and divine masculine energy/frequency we have learned, as we occupy the mind, and to know that frequency, we can only understand that using the gut/heart through experience that we choose will always be postive (life is happening FOR you mentality vs life is happening to you mentality).

Women nowadays are encouraged to have a far more masculine energy because they are expected to work and such.

Then you have the balance, that men are traditionally expected to court a lady, and ladys have expectations which are wildly different and mostly masculine expectations... and therefore, men experience a lot of rejection, way more than was experienced back in the day, and this site, women get like 400-1000 messages a day, men likely get maximum 30... so in this particular realm, its almost like there is no good way to really connect based on them being themselves, cos the expectations are mostly for a unique few, and women tend to have a far wider choice, which means they are more able to choose guys with physiques, that perhaps a lot of guys wont have...

then we come to the 'mental behaviour' you mentioned... is it right, absolutely not, is a sign of an unhealed man, struggling for love and (MOST IMPORTANTLY - PEACE) yes... can frustration and horrible learned behaviours rear their head as a result, ABSOLUTELY!...

So what your experiencing is that... and of course their ego will be hurt, cos they feel like they have to pretend they are something elevated from what they actually feel about themselves... so all of the feedback they get is 'you are not worthy enough which validates the deep dark fear they have in their soul...

does that help?

Damien

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By *atiekisskissWoman
24 weeks ago

London

Zzzzzzzzzzz!

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By *inky PerkyCouple
24 weeks ago

Narnia

TLDR

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By *hortieWoman
24 weeks ago

Northampton

No.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

24 weeks ago

East Sussex

Adults should be aware that abuse is wrong. The reason why an adult is abusive after being rejected is because they are rude and unpleasant. Not because they had to sleep in their own room when they were two

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By *niqueWizard OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London

I wasn’t suggesting what you put, I was showing the start of how problems manifest… can they end up rude and such, of course… we all have crosses to bear until we work on those triggers and definitions, my goal was to show why so that they would have a better inside into why, thus perhaps not being affected as much they chose that path

Not making excuses for horrible nasty behaviour… perhaps one person reads that, and it helps them choose better for themselves.

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By *tlanshiaWoman
24 weeks ago

Chatham

I think the problem is much more simpler men log on with one thought " a website fully of sluts who will fuck me."

Then they learn that most of the time they still have to act like humans and treat us like people. And they done wanna do that.

The justification is "it's a sex site." Doesn't mean I have to want to sleep with every man who emails me. That wasn't in the terms and conditions

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By *ineteen89Man
24 weeks ago

Swindon

Sometimes it’s as simple as they’re assholes who think they’re owed for their efforts. No idea if somebody like that would be as abusive in real life as they are online, but I would safely assume they are

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By *icecouple561Couple
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24 weeks ago

East Sussex


"I wasn’t suggesting what you put, I was showing the start of how problems manifest… can they end up rude and such, of course… we all have crosses to bear until we work on those triggers and definitions, my goal was to show why so that they would have a better inside into why, thus perhaps not being affected as much they chose that path

Not making excuses for horrible nasty behaviour… perhaps one person reads that, and it helps them choose better for themselves.

"

It would be nice to think that someone who is rude (it's not just men, women and couples can be very nasty) would read this and reflect on their behaviour but I think it's unlikely.

Some people come to fab with a very well developed sense of entitlement and deep sense of superiority. When that's challenged they have nothing but unkindness to protect themselves.

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By *niqueWizard OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London


"I wasn’t suggesting what you put, I was showing the start of how problems manifest… can they end up rude and such, of course… we all have crosses to bear until we work on those triggers and definitions, my goal was to show why so that they would have a better inside into why, thus perhaps not being affected as much they chose that path

Not making excuses for horrible nasty behaviour… perhaps one person reads that, and it helps them choose better for themselves.

It would be nice to think that someone who is rude (it's not just men, women and couples can be very nasty) would read this and reflect on their behaviour but I think it's unlikely.

Some people come to fab with a very well developed sense of entitlement and deep sense of superiority. When that's challenged they have nothing but unkindness to protect themselves. "

Oh totally, and it should be checked, the behaviour is not acceptable regardless of how ot manifested.

Are abusive words in the ban filter? Is it possible to code that you get one message until the other user replies? Similar to the way Instagram does it? I ask as I have seen that function on older architecture websites.. I know it’s a drop in item depending on the CMS. Just an idea

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

24 weeks ago

East Sussex


"I wasn’t suggesting what you put, I was showing the start of how problems manifest… can they end up rude and such, of course… we all have crosses to bear until we work on those triggers and definitions, my goal was to show why so that they would have a better inside into why, thus perhaps not being affected as much they chose that path

Not making excuses for horrible nasty behaviour… perhaps one person reads that, and it helps them choose better for themselves.

It would be nice to think that someone who is rude (it's not just men, women and couples can be very nasty) would read this and reflect on their behaviour but I think it's unlikely.

Some people come to fab with a very well developed sense of entitlement and deep sense of superiority. When that's challenged they have nothing but unkindness to protect themselves.

Oh totally, and it should be checked, the behaviour is not acceptable regardless of how ot manifested.

Are abusive words in the ban filter? Is it possible to code that you get one message until the other user replies? Similar to the way Instagram does it? I ask as I have seen that function on older architecture websites.. I know it’s a drop in item depending on the CMS. Just an idea "

I don't know what words are in the filter but I do know that any reports of abuse are taken very seriously by admin. They use a combination of warnings and temporary or permanent suspensions to deal with them

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By *niqueWizard OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London


"I wasn’t suggesting what you put, I was showing the start of how problems manifest… can they end up rude and such, of course… we all have crosses to bear until we work on those triggers and definitions, my goal was to show why so that they would have a better inside into why, thus perhaps not being affected as much they chose that path

Not making excuses for horrible nasty behaviour… perhaps one person reads that, and it helps them choose better for themselves.

It would be nice to think that someone who is rude (it's not just men, women and couples can be very nasty) would read this and reflect on their behaviour but I think it's unlikely.

Some people come to fab with a very well developed sense of entitlement and deep sense of superiority. When that's challenged they have nothing but unkindness to protect themselves.

Oh totally, and it should be checked, the behaviour is not acceptable regardless of how ot manifested.

Are abusive words in the ban filter? Is it possible to code that you get one message until the other user replies? Similar to the way Instagram does it? I ask as I have seen that function on older architecture websites.. I know it’s a drop in item depending on the CMS. Just an idea

I don't know what words are in the filter but I do know that any reports of abuse are taken very seriously by admin. They use a combination of warnings and temporary or permanent suspensions to deal with them "

I wonder what the ratio of reports to abuse recieved there is, and perhaps what users perceive as abuse? I know I’m sure this is somewhere to be read, if a user seeks it out

but would it be possible to make a small announcement? Or perhaps even just a status saying ‘don’t put up with abuse, use the report it button’? I’m sure you guys know your system… or perhaps there is a more efffective existing thing you do?

I’ll shut up now

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple
24 weeks ago

Manchester

couldn’t take anything the OP had written seriously once this sentence appeared

“Women nowadays are encouraged to have a far more masculine energy because they are expected to work and such.”

Women have always worked, whether they have been fairly paid, or paid at all for that work is another topic, but to define work as masculine is BS

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By *niqueWizard OP   Man
24 weeks ago

London


"couldn’t take anything the OP had written seriously once this sentence appeared

“Women nowadays are encouraged to have a far more masculine energy because they are expected to work and such.”

Women have always worked, whether they have been fairly paid, or paid at all for that work is another topic, but to define work as masculine is BS

"

Thanks for your message, I wasn’t describing work as masculine, my apologies in the way I worded that… I just wrote half asleep… thanks for pointing it out.

Perhaps I should have said being a woman in 2026 vs a couple of generations ago, and I was mentioning that because the feminine/masculine balance has changed dramatically and the methods of communication for relationships whether romantic or other and the change of free recreational time (everyone working so much) have exasterbated that… to my understanding … it’s all got tougher to navigate, for all concerned

A good few years ago, before I started getting involved with swinging, I was told by friends that their experience was one of respect and good commutation, thoughtfulness for each other, no making plans without informing if something came up… some of that seems around but it seems to have eroded and I don’t think people have become horrible people, I think the conditions have increased stress and frustration perhaps creating desperation for connection… what do you think? Do you have any ideas?

Perhaps less messages to new people? Seems the admin for some users means they would rather clear their whole inbox which sounds like a place that could be looked at?

My thought process is to see an idea could help? I don’t know if run the people who do an incredible job in this site, if they have enough time and resources to be able to do that?

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By *entlemanrogueMan
24 weeks ago

Motherwell

If a guy is rude after he has been rejected it is because he is a low intelligence thunder cunt that needs to grow the fuck up.

Simples

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

24 weeks ago

East Sussex


"I wasn’t suggesting what you put, I was showing the start of how problems manifest… can they end up rude and such, of course… we all have crosses to bear until we work on those triggers and definitions, my goal was to show why so that they would have a better inside into why, thus perhaps not being affected as much they chose that path

Not making excuses for horrible nasty behaviour… perhaps one person reads that, and it helps them choose better for themselves.

It would be nice to think that someone who is rude (it's not just men, women and couples can be very nasty) would read this and reflect on their behaviour but I think it's unlikely.

Some people come to fab with a very well developed sense of entitlement and deep sense of superiority. When that's challenged they have nothing but unkindness to protect themselves.

Oh totally, and it should be checked, the behaviour is not acceptable regardless of how ot manifested.

Are abusive words in the ban filter? Is it possible to code that you get one message until the other user replies? Similar to the way Instagram does it? I ask as I have seen that function on older architecture websites.. I know it’s a drop in item depending on the CMS. Just an idea

I don't know what words are in the filter but I do know that any reports of abuse are taken very seriously by admin. They use a combination of warnings and temporary or permanent suspensions to deal with them

I wonder what the ratio of reports to abuse recieved there is, and perhaps what users perceive as abuse? I know I’m sure this is somewhere to be read, if a user seeks it out

but would it be possible to make a small announcement? Or perhaps even just a status saying ‘don’t put up with abuse, use the report it button’? I’m sure you guys know your system… or perhaps there is a more efffective existing thing you do?

I’ll shut up now "

You can make all these suggestions in the feedback section of the forum

For clarity we aren't admin but there's a report button on every profile and every message. I will post how admin deal with reports though

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

24 weeks ago

East Sussex

Here is an explanation from Admin from another thread on how they deal with reports.

******Just a quick note. If people report others and we can verify that they have broken site rules, we always take action (either a first and final warning, partially suspended account, fully suspended, mixture of the above).

Every single report sent via the REPORT link is reviewed. Clearly it's not in our interests to have people on here who are bad for the site. Equally we need to verify what has been reported and be fair to those who have been reported.

Admin

PS. we never provide feedback on what has happened. It's just not practical given that we get 100s of reports a day.

Here is what the page says after a report has been submitted:

--

Your feedback has been saved.

A website admin will shortly review your feedback and take the necessary action. After reviewing the evidence available to us, we may disable an account, remove a user, disable certain aspects of that user's account or issue a warning.

By leaving feedback you help improve the site for everyone who uses it. Thank you.******

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

24 weeks ago

East Sussex


"couldn’t take anything the OP had written seriously once this sentence appeared

“Women nowadays are encouraged to have a far more masculine energy because they are expected to work and such.”

Women have always worked, whether they have been fairly paid, or paid at all for that work is another topic, but to define work as masculine is BS

Thanks for your message, I wasn’t describing work as masculine, my apologies in the way I worded that… I just wrote half asleep… thanks for pointing it out.

Perhaps I should have said being a woman in 2026 vs a couple of generations ago, and I was mentioning that because the feminine/masculine balance has changed dramatically and the methods of communication for relationships whether romantic or other and the change of free recreational time (everyone working so much) have exasterbated that… to my understanding … it’s all got tougher to navigate, for all concerned

A good few years ago, before I started getting involved with swinging, I was told by friends that their experience was one of respect and good commutation, thoughtfulness for each other, no making plans without informing if something came up… some of that seems around but it seems to have eroded and I don’t think people have become horrible people, I think the conditions have increased stress and frustration perhaps creating desperation for connection… what do you think? Do you have any ideas?

Perhaps less messages to new people? Seems the admin for some users means they would rather clear their whole inbox which sounds like a place that could be looked at?

My thought process is to see an idea could help? I don’t know if run the people who do an incredible job in this site, if they have enough time and resources to be able to do that?

"

An awful lot of problems would be solved if people used very tight mail filters and searched out matches themselves. I know that's the equivalent of saying that we need to police other people's behaviour but it's one of the tools we have on fab, others are blocking and reporting.

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By *ealitybitesMan
24 weeks ago

Belfast

I've always said that people don't seem to understand the power of whataboutery.

We only ever hear one side of most fab stories and huge parts are redacted so that no-one can ask what may have triggered a particular response.

I take most status updates with a pinch of salt because they are often designed to get a direct response.

This thread may be aimed at men but in my 10 years here I've had some seriously angry and manipulative women take offence when they have messaged out of the blue and I've refused their offers.

I've had all the usual, "do you not know who I am?", "have you no idea what you are turning down?", "you're a geriatric idiot and a time waster", and told that they could and would end my fab journey.

The problem with advice threads or those suggesting solutions is that fab is full of people who are triggered by the word "no".

If they can't read a few lines on a profile there is virtually no chance of them having a road to Damascus moment when reading a forum thread.

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