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"Hmmmm well we dont like going where the single men outnumber the couples. Nothing worse than being followed round like ants, fair enough most do get the hint but there is always a few that continue to try. Dont think we will be going there" Not sure if you misunderstood but on the occasions I was at Club Mystique there were only 2 single guys allowed in even if we tried we could not follow anyone around like ants. I agree with you there are some clubs where they allow too many single in and some guys spoil it for the rest of us. | |||
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"Hi i organise and host the parties at Club Mystique and the reason many clubs charge high prices for single guys is to make lots of money by letting them in(hence followed round like ants) We believe in being fair and only let in 2 single guys per 50 couples,some parties we do not let any in at all. To gain an invite as a single bloke they would need to be a fully paid up member of a swing site with at least 2 validations and a face pic,even after that they would be thoroughly vetted by myself via phone to ensure they are complete gentlemen,i hope this clears things a little for you... Claire XX" Are you getting 50 couples in on a night already?.....very impressive for a new club. | |||
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"Just looked at their site and they charge more for couples than single males... seems wrong baring in mind that majority of the others charge less" Maybe, some of the other clubs charge single males more to stop any idiot with a tenner in their pocket walking in. You can out price the eejits. Not fair on the well behaved, well mannered and genuine single swingers but it does serve a purpose. | |||
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"Just looked at their site and they charge more for couples than single males... seems wrong baring in mind that majority of the others charge less Maybe, some of the other clubs charge single males more to stop any idiot with a tenner in their pocket walking in. You can out price the eejits. Not fair on the well behaved, well mannered and genuine single swingers but it does serve a purpose." Sadly even eejits have money, in fact even eejits come in female form, your supply and demand comment on other threads is more likely the reason | |||
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"Just looked at their site and they charge more for couples than single males... seems wrong baring in mind that majority of the others charge less Maybe, some of the other clubs charge single males more to stop any idiot with a tenner in their pocket walking in. You can out price the eejits. Not fair on the well behaved, well mannered and genuine single swingers but it does serve a purpose. Sadly even eejits have money, in fact even eejits come in female form, your supply and demand comment on other threads is more likely the reason " I totally agree...... That said, if a bloke can pay £30 for a 15 min 'suck and fuck' at certain establishments, they will think twice about paying £50 membership and then £30/35 a time at a club where they are guaranteed NOTHING..... I've seen male and female idiots in many clubsand in general, it's the wassocks who think that cus they pay to get into a swinging club they are entitled to a shag, that spoil it for others. Mind you, I've seen pensioners between 70-90 (**shudder**) in clubs who save up to go........ (and I'm not joking) | |||
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"Personally I think the best way to sort of the wheat from the chaff is to have single guys attend an interview before they join a club, this works very well in many clubs in France and Belgium. I am sure that many guys who are wanting to attend clubs would be only too happy to pop along for a simple interview with club organisers, there are some great single guys out there and it would be a better solution than attempting to out the cretins with over inflated entry price." I've been suggesting that to Chameleons for years........ unfortunately, with todays culture, those idiots would always find a way to bring racism or discrimination into talks and therefore, make it absolutely impossible to enforce that kind of selection in Britain. | |||
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"Mind you, I've seen pensioners between 70-90 (**shudder**) in clubs who save up to go........ (and I'm not joking)" Probably expected to be hearing swing tunes from the 30's n 40's | |||
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"Mind you, I've seen pensioners between 70-90 (**shudder**) in clubs who save up to go........ (and I'm not joking You and jason where in a mirrored room then runs of laughing" Jason is wiggling his fingers and flexing his wrists........... | |||
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"Mind you, I've seen pensioners between 70-90 (**shudder**) in clubs who save up to go........ (and I'm not joking You and jason where in a mirrored room then runs of laughing Jason is wiggling his fingers and flexing his wrists........... " Im outa here | |||
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"Just looked at their site and they charge more for couples than single males... seems wrong baring in mind that majority of the others charge less" That has made my night lol | |||
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"cpls use the facilities twice as much so it does make sence more loo paper more towels etc haha " And generally have twice as much fun, so win win for the couples | |||
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"cpls use the facilities twice as much so it does make sence more loo paper more towels etc haha And generally have twice as much fun, so win win for the couples " HEHE I don't do so badly all on my lonesome | |||
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"cpls use the facilities twice as much so it does make sence more loo paper more towels etc haha And generally have twice as much fun, so win win for the couples HEHE I don't do so badly all on my lonesome " So we are reliably informed miss | |||
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"Makes a change to see someplace that ISN'T shafting the single guy ...." Is a club that charges more for single males "shafting" them. If you think it is then you should never go to that club. But think about it :- +note most there are exceptions to every rule+ Most single guys go to a club within an hours drive, often to the clubs that "guarantee" girls willing to play ie paid to be there. Most single guys don't pay babysitters Most single guys don't have to buy drinks and food for two Most single guys don't need new stockings or outfits to go to the club Most single guys don't use hotel accommodation for an overnight stay. On the other hand Couples often travel great distances to go to clubs they prefer incurring extra fuel costs Couples often need to stay overnight in guest houses or hotels (average cost £45) Drinks and food prices double for two Outfits to go ££££ Many couples have to pay babysitters. OK so all in all a night at a club tends to cost a couple more than it does for a single guy, the money isn't all paid to the club but the fact is there. Many nightclubs offer free entry to women to attract them to the venue, clubs are doing the same. half price drinks or even free drinks for ladies ? If a guy doesn't care if the couples go or not I suggest visiting one of the "Greenhouses" around the country, these clubs charge single males a very small amount and since women are not allowed in they are not charged less. But if you want a club where a lot of couples go then yes to an extent you have to subsidise them, hasn't it been that way since the first mixed venues opened. The ONLY question is .... Single guys when you go to a club do you feel you get value for money, think about it and if the answer is no then don't go and voice the opinion your entitled to. | |||
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"Personally I think the best way to sort of the wheat from the chaff is to have single guys attend an interview before they join a club, this works very well in many clubs in France and Belgium. I am sure that many guys who are wanting to attend clubs would be only too happy to pop along for a simple interview with club organisers, there are some great single guys out there and it would be a better solution than attempting to out the cretins with over inflated entry price. I've been suggesting that to Chameleons for years........ unfortunately, with todays culture, those idiots would always find a way to bring racism or discrimination into talks and therefore, make it absolutely impossible to enforce that kind of selection in Britain." To a great extent Chameleons do interview new single guys applying to join. You cannot join by post or phone. You can turn up on the door but there is no guarantee you will get a membership, staff "vet" you, your appearance, physical appearance, attitude etc are taken into consideration and more are turned away than permitted to join. You can apply by e-mail sending a photo, details of your swinging experience, membership of internet site details etc. Now .... before you jump on it ..... physical appearance ... this doesn't mean you have to be good looking with a 6 pack, in fact at certain times of the year you wouldn't get a membership because of that. The club try to keep a good mix of guys available, large, slim, young, middle aged, old, tall, short, muscular, goodlooking, average looking and so on. So sometimes they are especially looking for larger guys to join, sometimes they want younger guys other times they want older guys, you get the idea. That doesn't mean the mix will always be right when you go because who goes on the night is a tombola but generally speaking it works because most nights there is a good mix | |||
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" ........... Most single guys go to a club within an hours drive, often to the clubs that "guarantee" girls willing to play ie paid to be there. .........." Surely that isn't true. Clubs pay girls to shag the single guys? That has nothing to do with swinging. | |||
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" ........... Most single guys go to a club within an hours drive, often to the clubs that "guarantee" girls willing to play ie paid to be there. .......... Surely that isn't true. Clubs pay girls to shag the single guys? That has nothing to do with swinging." I, personally, agree..... However, they still come under the heading "swinger clubs" I personally do NOT agree with women that are paid to 'look after' the men! | |||
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" ........... Most single guys go to a club within an hours drive, often to the clubs that "guarantee" girls willing to play ie paid to be there. .......... Surely that isn't true. Clubs pay girls to shag the single guys? That has nothing to do with swinging. I, personally, agree..... However, they still come under the heading "swinger clubs" I personally do NOT agree with women that are paid to 'look after' the men!" Do the guys know they're shagging women who are being paid to 'entertain' them? | |||
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"What if we did a speed dating type event(say midweek?)for all couple members(free event) to speed date all the single guy applicants so that we can pick(overall) who is to attend for each month? Let me know your thoughts... Claire X" Do the guys have to wear bikinis, evening dresses and explain what they will do to save the whales and the rainforest or is that being saved for month 2? Seriously some of the stuff on this thread has been priceless. Couples buy outfits but blokes dont? Single blokes dont travel far to go out to clubs? Do couples get interviewed, poked and prodded to see if they have a 6 pack or go to the gym? | |||
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" ......... Do couples get interviewed, poked and prodded to see if they have a 6 pack or go to the gym? " A pussy and a pulse will normally suffice. On a quiet night the pulse is optional | |||
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"I'm still baffled as to how we know most single guys go to a club within an hour's drive and "often to often to clubs that guarantee girls willing to play. ie paid to be there" Fortunately that hasnt been my experience of clubs." Jed seems to know what he's talking about. I confess I have no experience of UK clubs but I'm astonished by this revelation. It's enough to bring out the presbyterian in me. | |||
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" ........... Most single guys go to a club within an hours drive, often to the clubs that "guarantee" girls willing to play ie paid to be there. .......... Surely that isn't true. Clubs pay girls to shag the single guys? That has nothing to do with swinging. I, personally, agree..... However, they still come under the heading "swinger clubs" I personally do NOT agree with women that are paid to 'look after' the men! Do the guys know they're shagging women who are being paid to 'entertain' them?" I have no idea....... but I know one club who uses paid girls but the only way you know if they work for the club or not is by looking at their website. | |||
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" ........... Most single guys go to a club within an hours drive, often to the clubs that "guarantee" girls willing to play ie paid to be there. .......... Surely that isn't true. Clubs pay girls to shag the single guys? That has nothing to do with swinging. I, personally, agree..... However, they still come under the heading "swinger clubs" I personally do NOT agree with women that are paid to 'look after' the men! Do the guys know they're shagging women who are being paid to 'entertain' them? I have no idea....... but I know one club who uses paid girls but the only way you know if they work for the club or not is by looking at their website." So a guy could go to a 'swingers' clubs, get his hole (sorry stunna) and go home thinking some single lassie had fancied him enough to shag him when, in fact, she'd been paid to do it? | |||
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"I give up! lol " Don't worry This is often the case on here,threads do go off into different subjects than the original topic | |||
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" ........... Most single guys go to a club within an hours drive, often to the clubs that "guarantee" girls willing to play ie paid to be there. .......... Surely that isn't true. Clubs pay girls to shag the single guys? That has nothing to do with swinging. I, personally, agree..... However, they still come under the heading "swinger clubs" I personally do NOT agree with women that are paid to 'look after' the men! Do the guys know they're shagging women who are being paid to 'entertain' them? I have no idea....... but I know one club who uses paid girls but the only way you know if they work for the club or not is by looking at their website. So a guy could go to a 'swingers' clubs, get his hole (sorry stunna) and go home thinking some single lassie had fancied him enough to shag him when, in fact, she'd been paid to do it? " Yep......... but at least he wouldn't be boo hooing that no one fancied him! | |||
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" ........... Most single guys go to a club within an hours drive, often to the clubs that "guarantee" girls willing to play ie paid to be there. .......... Surely that isn't true. Clubs pay girls to shag the single guys? That has nothing to do with swinging. I, personally, agree..... However, they still come under the heading "swinger clubs" I personally do NOT agree with women that are paid to 'look after' the men! Do the guys know they're shagging women who are being paid to 'entertain' them? I have no idea....... but I know one club who uses paid girls but the only way you know if they work for the club or not is by looking at their website. So a guy could go to a 'swingers' clubs, get his hole (sorry stunna) and go home thinking some single lassie had fancied him enough to shag him when, in fact, she'd been paid to do it? Yep......... but at least he wouldn't be boo hooing that no one fancied him!" Altogether now 'Always look on the bright side of life' | |||
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"I`ve been in this lifestyle for over 10 yrs and visited Clubs all over the world and Never EVER will i get used to these forums...lol xxx" Give it another 20 years and you'll be used to everything | |||
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"HGV Tip Off ?? we all knew it was opening hun, heard it wasnt too bad either, mind you anything gotta be better than newport chams yuk lol glad u enjoyed " It IS a very good review. I doubt Ambiance could have written better herself. | |||
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"I wonder if people would come if we threw a Pussy Posse Party there?" I would lol | |||
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"HGV Tip Off ?? we all knew it was opening hun, heard it wasnt too bad either, mind you anything gotta be better than newport chams yuk lol glad u enjoyed It IS a very good review. I doubt Ambiance could have written better herself." i doubt if saatchi and saatchi could have written it better!!! | |||
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"I would but you would have to force me " Your going! (is that forceful enough) | |||
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"my local club holds single guys nights on a wed and fri, single girls get in free guys pay £18 the last time i was there were 20 guys in the club and 4 single ladies who spent half the night in the bar talking to each other and the rest as a 4 some together and were very hostile to any male there. its the last time that i would go to any club. will keep on aranging meets at my home " Don't judge all clubs by a bad experience. | |||
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" Seriously some of the stuff on this thread has been priceless. Couples buy outfits but blokes dont? Single blokes dont travel far to go out to clubs? Do couples get interviewed, poked and prodded to see if they have a 6 pack or go to the gym? " OK if your going to comment on my post please read it first, I did say that having a 6 pack or going regularly to the gym might prevent you getting membership at Chameleons, as and I will repeat myself, the club tries to get a good mix of single male members by giving preference to larger guys when there arent enough, younger guys when there arent enough, fitter guys when there arent enough, older guys when there arent enough ya get the idea Outfits, it does depend where you go but in a club like Chameleons the dress code is Lingerie/sexy niteclub attire or the supplied towel for the girls and boxers/thong or the supplied towel for the guys. So I am thinking that like me most guys have a pair of boxers or a thong (yuk to an old git like me in a thong) whereas the girls do like to dress up, call it sexist call it what you want but its a fact. Obviously fancy dress/theme nights are different but thats not general day to day clubbing. Some say I know what I am talking about, I dont know everything nobody does, I have worked at 2 swingers clubs and managed a guest house for people visiting swingers clubs for 7 years, I have managed a swingers hotel for 2 years and my views, facts and opinions come from the thousands of swingers that have chatted to me for the last 10 years. Chameleons for instance on a Friday night gets around 15 single females, 60+ single guys and 70-80 couples, seasonal variations apply but that is a pretty good ratio for fun, remember some couples and females will be seeking 1-15 guys when they visit. remember what I said - do you feel you get value for money whatever you pay | |||
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"Regardless of whether or not the OP wrote the review or not...... Would people come if we threw a Pussy Posse Party there? (heavily discounted of course)" Well you know my answer to that already | |||
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"I've been suggesting that to Chameleons for years........ unfortunately, with todays culture, those idiots would always find a way to bring racism or discrimination into talks and therefore, make it absolutely impossible to enforce that kind of selection in Britain." Madchick - I could be wrong on this, but as far as I understand the law, a private members club can discriminate on any grounds that it sees fit. | |||
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"I've been suggesting that to Chameleons for years........ unfortunately, with todays culture, those idiots would always find a way to bring racism or discrimination into talks and therefore, make it absolutely impossible to enforce that kind of selection in Britain. Madchick - I could be wrong on this, but as far as I understand the law, a private members club can discriminate on any grounds that it sees fit. " But unfortunately, the law is an ass.... And civil action would still be allowed I presume..... | |||
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"I wonder if people would come if we threw a Pussy Posse Party there?" Not without the single guys! Maybe good for a social though. Lol | |||
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"I wonder if people would come if we threw a Pussy Posse Party there? Not without the single guys! Maybe good for a social though. Lol" There would be single guys........it would be a posse party without them | |||
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"I wonder if people would come if we threw a Pussy Posse Party there? Not without the single guys! Maybe good for a social though. Lol" You know me hun........... don't do things by half........ And yes...... there would be single guys and loads of them!! | |||
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"ooh ooh ooh I do know that unlike most places, not being open to the public and being a private members club they dont have to cater for Disabled people ie entrances or loos and they can refuse entry to disabled people on the grounds that they are disabled (which is not really because they are disabled but because the facilities are not suitable for wheelchair access and so forth)" The Disability Discrimination Act applies to private clubs with over 25 members but they have the usual cop out excuses about what is 'reasonable' and the resources of the club. | |||
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