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"What's your view on people who say or have "married but misses doesn't know" or "got a bf but looking for stuff on side" do yiu feel that their deception is what gives open couples and singers a bit of a bad rep. " Swingers* | |||
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"They're being honest. There are many on here who are attached but don't say it." so do yiu consider it OK to help them and enable cheating and adultry | |||
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"I don’t think reputational damage is caused to swinging by people being married / partnered and not disclosing it. I think the issue is the majority of the public have been conditioned into thinking of monogamy as the only true path… and us minority swingers are, therefore, deviant." so what about ones who do harm the rep tho or does this harm it in general | |||
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"We respect there honesty but would never meet them. " what do yiu think about those who do? | |||
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"They're being honest. There are many on here who are attached but don't say it." They're not being honest with their spouses. I'm in an open marriage and yeah we have a couples account on here. Never had to lie about anything once to my wife nor her to me. Personally.neither of us will.knowingly entertain cheaters. And we never have as far as we know. | |||
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"If they can’t be trusted by their own partner I’d certainly not trust them having any involvement with mine, also have heard far too many horror stories of the wife/gf finding out and targeting the bit on the side." I've been seeing more the female sides just leaving men out dry cheating on them two from with a mile of me asked me to then go back to there bfs | |||
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"They're being honest. There are many on here who are attached but don't say it. They're not being honest with their spouses. I'm in an open marriage and yeah we have a couples account on here. Never had to lie about anything once to my wife nor her to me. Personally.neither of us will.knowingly entertain cheaters. And we never have as far as we know. " Same for us it's and instant block what's worse is soeme of them seem to think they re the morality police | |||
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"They are not being honest at least not the the partner that they supposedly love. The only reason they mention that they are married is because they can't accommodate and can only meet at certain times.people are not stupid and can see straight through the bullshit. To us is up to the individual what they do,but we won't be part of it." This is what I thought everyone's stance is so what about those who enable it? | |||
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"If we know we avoid last thing we want is an upset partner hunting us down, " I find it sick cucking is one thing but being dishonest and never telling them going back and saying u love them shows levels of decite that's can't be matched | |||
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"I'm glad they're giving me the option to make an informed decision. Being able to be honest with people you want to fuck but not the people who think you love them is not a good look though 💜" does this come into yiur choice on weither you do make the decision or not tho? | |||
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"Couples stay in marriages for all sorts of reasons but when one sex drive just disappears e.g. menopause or ED it can leave the other party high and dry. As long as there is an understanding between them they probably don't want to know all the details and swinging or an FWB is a much better alternative for everybody than entering into another love based relationship" but that's not what said what said is honest decite ie trying to make sure to hide it from their partner what's more they may even get off on humiliating and degrading them in rooms they dno about I just personally would like believe someone would stand up for me or any human if this is the case thus dno how others can be apart of it , | |||
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"One issue with married or attached cheaters is that the are flakey. Mainly because they are sneaking around behind their partners back. We have given a couple of guys a chance but always turns out the same way." Oooooh so you are open to allowing it and don't care for other person in slightest? | |||
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"so what about ones who do harm the rep tho or does this harm it in general" I think to the outside world “swinging” is just a deviant world of immoral sex perverts. Without taking the time to find out the truth the image is set… so no, I don’t think the reputation of swinging is any more damaged by their actions. | |||
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"I'm glad they're giving me the option to make an informed decision. Being able to be honest with people you want to fuck but not the people who think you love them is not a good look though 💜 does this come into yiur choice on weither you do make the decision or not tho?" Given the choice I choose not to get involved with people I know lie to the people who think they love them. Honesty and clarity is important to me. And consent should be both enthusiastic and informed. Which it can't be if I can't trust them to tell me the details that they know are relevant to my choices. Of course, some unscrupulous bastarda sneak under the radar. And if they neglect their home and family enough it can take a long time for the red flags to show. Those are the ones I'd really prefer to just stay the fuck away from me 💜 | |||
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"They are grown adults and they are free to make their own decisions. I'm sure they know the implications are if they are caught. Not like it's going to affect us in the slightest." So you don't think a cheat hiding as swinger under the rep of a swing commenting deception brings down the group as whole as my family views it different they see us all as just wanting g our cake and eating it too | |||
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"so what about ones who do harm the rep tho or does this harm it in general I think to the outside world “swinging” is just a deviant world of immoral sex perverts. Without taking the time to find out the truth the image is set… so no, I don’t think the reputation of swinging is any more damaged by their actions." True or that's how I'm experiencing telling friends and family etc | |||
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"I'm glad they're giving me the option to make an informed decision. Being able to be honest with people you want to fuck but not the people who think you love them is not a good look though 💜 does this come into yiur choice on weither you do make the decision or not tho? Given the choice I choose not to get involved with people I know lie to the people who think they love them. Honesty and clarity is important to me. And consent should be both enthusiastic and informed. Which it can't be if I can't trust them to tell me the details that they know are relevant to my choices. Of course, some unscrupulous bastarda sneak under the radar. And if they neglect their home and family enough it can take a long time for the red flags to show. Those are the ones I'd really prefer to just stay the fuck away from me 💜" Yeah mfs who act like don't have life move in only for kids to show up lol | |||
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"Yeah mfs who act like don't have life move in only for kids to show up lol " It was the wife and mother in law that showed up shouting on my doorstep. Like, at least give me the heads up that that's a possibility dammit | |||
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"I say it’s up to them." True but do you condem it find it OK to enable it ovbcourse we all have our own choices and free will but how would you feel let's use a whataboutism who here can say they would be OK with there partner not only cheating but going online telling community they cheating and that your not even worth the respect to tell that yiur cheating on them? I doubt any human would unless they get some sort of thrill and such from it which I don't think is happening because if it was they would say cuck and hotwife not just cheating | |||
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"Yeah mfs who act like don't have life move in only for kids to show up lol It was the wife and mother in law that showed up shouting on my doorstep. Like, at least give me the heads up that that's a possibility dammit " damm that's madness so would yiu do it again knowing what you know now was the sex that good? | |||
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"Yeah mfs who act like don't have life move in only for kids to show up lol It was the wife and mother in law that showed up shouting on my doorstep. Like, at least give me the heads up that that's a possibility dammit damm that's madness so would yiu do it again knowing what you know now was the sex that good? " The sex was amazing. But that was when I thought I could trust him. That's never gonna be a possibility again 💜 | |||
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"Yeah mfs who act like don't have life move in only for kids to show up lol It was the wife and mother in law that showed up shouting on my doorstep. Like, at least give me the heads up that that's a possibility dammit damm that's madness so would yiu do it again knowing what you know now was the sex that good? The sex was amazing. But that was when I thought I could trust him. That's never gonna be a possibility again 💜" Wow see I would fee discussed if someone used me like that all those memories of good sex now would be like tainted that's madness | |||
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"Yeah mfs who act like don't have life move in only for kids to show up lol It was the wife and mother in law that showed up shouting on my doorstep. Like, at least give me the heads up that that's a possibility dammit damm that's madness so would yiu do it again knowing what you know now was the sex that good? The sex was amazing. But that was when I thought I could trust him. That's never gonna be a possibility again 💜" So how did that feel on yiu how did it make you not trust some humans etc? And also yiu think its fair he did this and that yiu got brunt of it? | |||
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"So how did that feel on yiu how did it make you not trust some humans etc? And also yiu think its fair he did this and that yiu got brunt of it?" Humans are terrible and fallible. But that doesn't mean I'm going to distrust everyone moving forward. Absolutely not fair. But it is what it is. If there'd been any red flags for me to look back and know to avoid next time it would probably be more helpful, but honestly absolutely clueless until the day those two showed up on my door. It seemed like a good 18 months or so at the time. But it's hard to look back on it with fondness knowing that despite being fully aware of my stance on unknowing spouses he decided that continuing to get his dick wet was more important than my morality or ability to make informed decisions. | |||
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"Life’s too short.. as long as no one is hurt.. where’s the harm? " Someone is getting hurt or are yiu in crowd of what they dno know doesn't hurt them? | |||
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"We respect there honesty but would never meet them. " This! | |||
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"So how did that feel on yiu how did it make you not trust some humans etc? And also yiu think its fair he did this and that yiu got brunt of it? Humans are terrible and fallible. But that doesn't mean I'm going to distrust everyone moving forward. Absolutely not fair. But it is what it is. If there'd been any red flags for me to look back and know to avoid next time it would probably be more helpful, but honestly absolutely clueless until the day those two showed up on my door. It seemed like a good 18 months or so at the time. But it's hard to look back on it with fondness knowing that despite being fully aware of my stance on unknowing spouses he decided that continuing to get his dick wet was more important than my morality or ability to make informed decisions." Maybe the old saying of its was too good to be true should have been alram bells enilough for yiu or its just me I don't ever believe anything another human says , I treat everyone like we are in a lannister encampment [reference for the A song of ice and fire readers] | |||
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"So how did that feel on yiu how did it make you not trust some humans etc? And also yiu think its fair he did this and that yiu got brunt of it? Humans are terrible and fallible. But that doesn't mean I'm going to distrust everyone moving forward. Absolutely not fair. But it is what it is. If there'd been any red flags for me to look back and know to avoid next time it would probably be more helpful, but honestly absolutely clueless until the day those two showed up on my door. It seemed like a good 18 months or so at the time. But it's hard to look back on it with fondness knowing that despite being fully aware of my stance on unknowing spouses he decided that continuing to get his dick wet was more important than my morality or ability to make informed decisions." I'm be real I dno what to say to you Sept yiu seem better than I would be | |||
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"No one knows the situation. As long as there's honesty about there situation we leave them to it. We don't think we're In the position to judge anyone at the end of the day we're not shouting from the rooftops that we're on here doing what we do. Morally we could all be considered doing wrong in the eyes of some people. If you say you won't meet married people they will probably just lie anyway and tell your what you wanna hear. That's just our experiences anyway. " Well we must just be different then cause I tell anyone who ask as I belive it's part of who I am and my sexuality so why hide it just my opinion so anyone who does hide it seems deceitful to both me and my partner | |||
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"I mean what's not sexy about heartbreak, deceit and lies.... Mrs 🙄" well what is sexy about it? Can't answer questions with questions.... | |||
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"Situations are weird with people. Me and my now ex is a good example. We both knew something wasn't right, I was here chatting (but not meeting) and know she had been talking to other guys (and 99% sure nothing happened) because we'd drifted apart and deep down knew we probably should have ended it. But life can be tough to untangle from one another after a certain point. We could have been called emotional cheaters I guess. Though since we have parted (though still living together) we have got on better and think we're better for what happened. But this isn't an excuse for what alot do, who just want to get their end away and damn the fallout." Sound thought but take yiur situation how would it be if u or her had cheated would it have cause hurt and trauma etc from a toxic situation | |||
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"As I say in my bio, I have absolutely no intention of entertaining cheaters on here. They can absolutely do whatever they want with anyone who's okay with that, but it's potential drama I can do without. I wouldn't be on here at all if my wife weren't also on here or aware of it." Sounds like you have more morality than most on this site as I've encountered many cheater with verification of others helping them cheat seems dirty to us | |||
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"After finding out my husband was meeting on here around the Hull & Leeds area without me ever knowing I would never meet a married/attached man. I know first hand the traumatic events that unfold after us innocent wives find out. Nope. Absolutely nothing sexy about lies - deceit - heartbreak & ruining families. For me they dont represent swingers well at all!!!!" Couldn't have said it better | |||
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"They are being honest, it's not our thing though, we won't touch anyone cheating. Don't need someone else's crap landing on our doorstep" Not being honest with spouses tho | |||
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"We respect there honesty but would never meet them. This! " Don't even consider them honest I think they just trying to make it look like they are fucking someone over and some people get off on that | |||
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"After being on the receiving end I would never, ever, knowingly put someone else in that position and I would absolutely tell anyone who asked me to facilitate their cheating exactly what I thought of them. " Sound like you our type of man had to do this to both women and men recently all within 1 mile of us so the partners are like within 3 housing estate thus we probly know them or faces | |||
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"It's always a no from us....we don't need to bring someone else's drama into our life when they get found out. " So how do you view those who enable it ??? | |||
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"After being on the receiving end I would never, ever, knowingly put someone else in that position and I would absolutely tell anyone who asked me to facilitate their cheating exactly what I thought of them. Sound like you our type of man had to do this to both women and men recently all within 1 mile of us so the partners are like within 3 housing estate thus we probly know them or faces" Anyone who can look at someone who loves and trusts them with a straight face then go out and cheat on them and put them through that hell is not the kind of person I want anywhere near my life or the lives of the people I care about. | |||
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"Maybe the old saying of its was too good to be true should have been alram bells enilough for yiu or its just me I don't ever believe anything another human says , I treat everyone like we are in a lannister encampment [reference for the A song of ice and fire readers]" I've been lucky then. I've met some amazing people in my life. One of my partners I started seeing about 2 decades ago and he's still never given me a reason to doubt him. I also find the somewhat autistic need for honesty and clarity helps some. I don't want to spend my life questioning everything that's good in my life because it might be too good to be true. That one was just what I thought was a good relationship, it wasn't some world ending romantic fantasy. | |||
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"One issue with married or attached cheaters is that the are flakey. Mainly because they are sneaking around behind their partners back. We have given a couple of guys a chance but always turns out the same way. Oooooh so you are open to allowing it and don't care for other person in slightest?" We did a few years ago but soon changed our stance. We don’t now. We never actually met with an attracted guy, just chatted | |||
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"No I think both are the same.. both want extra on the side and to maintain their current comfort." Agreed | |||
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"What's your view on people who say or have "married but misses doesn't know" or "got a bf but looking for stuff on side" do yiu feel that their deception is what gives open couples and singers a bit of a bad rep. " Don't care as long as they don't slag off their partner or wife. None of my business if they are married, only want recreational sex not relationships. | |||
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"What's your view on people who say or have "married but misses doesn't know" or "got a bf but looking for stuff on side" do yiu feel that their deception is what gives open couples and singers a bit of a bad rep. " Was a great tv program | |||
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"What's your view on people who say or have "married but missus doesn't know" or "got a bf but looking for stuff on side" do you feel that their deception is what gives open couples and swingers a bit of a bad rep. " Fab is a great place for people to meet likeminded others, therefore; those open couples and swingers will meet those who meet their preferences, and those who step outside their relationships for whatever reason, will meet others doing the same. Life is for living, and meeting people who think the same as you do. Avoid those who don't meet your preferences, and never judge anyone, before walking in their shoes. | |||
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"What's your view on people who say or have "married but misses doesn't know" or "got a bf but looking for stuff on side" do yiu feel that their deception is what gives open couples and singers a bit of a bad rep. " As someone who used to say that to those I spoke to on here. 'i am married, but it's not happy' . So I was looking for attention, affection and companionship elsewhere as I had medical /work related considerations which then had a massive impact on my responsibilities or the ability to provide etc, so that's why I stayed and put up with not nice shit. Anyway, I made it clear to those I spoke to on here as I didn't want to mislead anyone or go against anyone's hard limits. But I was aware it was without my ex husband knowing, and for that I did feel horrible for doing (note X2 weeks after he found out about this side of me he found a g/f so he obviously wasn't that heart broken, and was with me for convenience too). So that was my rational. Do I think there will be similar variations of this? Yes. Do I think there will be others who just want both? Yes. I couldn't be with someone who was knowingly deceitful when there was still affection with the other unknowing partner. I couldn't do it. But someone in a similar situation, an unhappy and unfulfilled marriage, I'd see. But I'd want that honesty reciprocated. | |||
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"What's your view on people who say or have "married but misses doesn't know" or "got a bf but looking for stuff on side" do yiu feel that their deception is what gives open couples and singers a bit of a bad rep. As someone who used to say that to those I spoke to on here. 'i am married, but it's not happy' . So I was looking for attention, affection and companionship elsewhere as I had medical /work related considerations which then had a massive impact on my responsibilities or the ability to provide etc, so that's why I stayed and put up with not nice shit. Anyway, I made it clear to those I spoke to on here as I didn't want to mislead anyone or go against anyone's hard limits. But I was aware it was without my ex husband knowing, and for that I did feel horrible for doing (note X2 weeks after he found out about this side of me he found a g/f so he obviously wasn't that heart broken, and was with me for convenience too). So that was my rational. Do I think there will be similar variations of this? Yes. Do I think there will be others who just want both? Yes. I couldn't be with someone who was knowingly deceitful when there was still affection with the other unknowing partner. I couldn't do it. But someone in a similar situation, an unhappy and unfulfilled marriage, I'd see. But I'd want that honesty reciprocated. " so what yiru saying is in long way that even tho you did it you still wouldn't openly help a cheater cheat . Someone who themselves is self confessed cheater ???? | |||
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"What's your view on people who say or have "married but misses doesn't know" or "got a bf but looking for stuff on side" do yiu feel that their deception is what gives open couples and singers a bit of a bad rep. " Sometimes it’s complicated | |||
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"What's your view on people who say or have "married but misses doesn't know" or "got a bf but looking for stuff on side" do yiu feel that their deception is what gives open couples and singers a bit of a bad rep. Sometimes it’s complicated " just had a couple who was a two individual cheater already cheating on partners with each other who wanna swing with other people I asked does yiur partners know they said no I asked do they know your having and affair either they said no so here we have a cheating couple who is both cheating on their spouses who think it's OK and consider them self swingers who are looking for other who will willingly be OK with them cheating, tell me does that sound complicated or again does it sound like 2 people wanting to have everything while cause trauma to an unknown human for no reason other than their own selfishness | |||
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"What's your view on people who say or have "married but misses doesn't know" or "got a bf but looking for stuff on side" do yiu feel that their deception is what gives open couples and singers a bit of a bad rep. Sometimes it’s complicated just had a couple who was a two individual cheater already cheating on partners with each other who wanna swing with other people I asked does yiur partners know they said no I asked do they know your having and affair either they said no so here we have a cheating couple who is both cheating on their spouses who think it's OK and consider them self swingers who are looking for other who will willingly be OK with them cheating, tell me does that sound complicated or again does it sound like 2 people wanting to have everything while cause trauma to an unknown human for no reason other than their own selfishness " All a bit too deep and confusing for us. If someone at a club or party gave us a tale like this, we'd smile say "see you later" and move on. Best advice from us, don't buy in grief or drama. Plenty on here only too happy to peddle it. | |||
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"Exactly, I always found it strange that for people that are meant to be open minded how judgmental a lot of us swingers are" Being open minded doesn't mean being party to the hurt and devastation infidelity leaves in its wake. | |||
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"What's your view on people who say or have "married but misses doesn't know" or "got a bf but looking for stuff on side" do yiu feel that their deception is what gives open couples and swingers a bit of a bad rep. " I think that swingers have a "bad rep" because lots of people see it as "perverted". Ironically, the general population is more accepting of cheating than swinging. Personally I don't see people who are on here as "singles" just looking for a one-to-one meet as swingers at all. Cal | |||
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"Exactly, I always found it strange that for people that are meant to be open minded how judgmental a lot of us swingers are Being open minded doesn't mean being party to the hurt and devastation infidelity leaves in its wake. " I think it's genuinely impossible for anyone who has not loved someone and been on the receiving end of infidelity to fully understand how damaging it is. I would like to think anyone who has been in that position could not possibly be party to bringing it about for another | |||
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"Exactly, I always found it strange that for people that are meant to be open minded how judgmental a lot of us swingers are Being open minded doesn't mean being party to the hurt and devastation infidelity leaves in its wake. " Someone clearly gets it I'm starting to see a pattern of those who assume its OK and would go along with it an other who flat out consider this braking the code | |||
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"What's your view on people who say or have "married but misses doesn't know" or "got a bf but looking for stuff on side" do yiu feel that their deception is what gives open couples and swingers a bit of a bad rep. I think that swingers have a "bad rep" because lots of people see it as "perverted". Ironically, the general population is more accepting of cheating than swinging. Personally I don't see people who are on here as "singles" just looking for a one-to-one meet as swingers at all. Cal" great call never thought of it like this | |||
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"So if a guy/woman is in a loving relationship but totally sexless. Is he/she supposed to stay in the relationship or go for a bit on the side? Life is very short and both sexes have needs. So you sit in the retirement home thinking back with regrets of all you missed out on in life. Partner has died and too weak and old to have sex or even think about it. Yes it’s cheating but you do everything for your loved one. Is a wank enough? The feel and touch of another body. The need to feel attractive. The need to lie with someone and feel the heat from there body. I’ve known so many men & women in sexless loveless marriage but still best friends & married. Who are we to judge a situation. Live & let live. Fab is a sex site and anonymous. Here to have fun and leave our normal lives and step out into real fantasy. I await the criticism. " Would that person they cheated on still think they had a "loving relationship? | |||
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"Married and playing alone with permission here. If you want to meet for a coffee and find out more about me and why Im here playing alone then feel free to drop me a message " But you aren't cheating you said you have permission that different from the people who literally say they re playing away days | |||
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"Not our problem really. If a partner approached as looking for information if someone we have met has been caught we won't lie but will just direct them to speak to their partner " So yiur willing to be apart of it but don't wish to deal with the drama if it came towards you? Make that make sense please | |||
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"Cheaters are the lowest of the low and those who facilitate them are just as bad. How anyone can play a part in potentially hurting someone they are supposed to love/care about is beyond me. If you can't be honest with your partner, you're certainly not going to be honest with randoms. I" I consider this as only succkers condone sukka behaviour | |||
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"I don’t care about their relationship status I’m here for physical intimacy and to meet those interested in the same kinks, their home life has nothing to do with me im emotionally mature enough to know a lot of people live a different lifestyle than on here for a host of reasons " Oh so yiur willing to enable and facilitate said cheaters | |||
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"I would say 85% of all guys on here are married or in LTRs. Most are on here for casual sex and to get experiences their wifes GF won’t provide. I don’t judge and don’t expect to be. Look at most of the tranny vids on here with overweight blokes slamming stubby hard ons into the gurls, probably happily married but need a bit of uncomplicated release. " Wasn't every bit of what you said there an assumption or opinion? As wher you getting stats from(ie trust me bro ) | |||
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"Personally I wouldn't meet a married woman behind her husbands back. did it years ago when I was younger, she didn't tell me but I did strongly suspect. OH! that nearly ended up in mass brawl in a nightclub " Yeah these are the stories I wanted thos thread to show how did it make you feel | |||
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"So if a guy/woman is in a loving relationship but totally sexless. Is he/she supposed to stay in the relationship or go for a bit on the side? Life is very short and both sexes have needs. So you sit in the retirement home thinking back with regrets of all you missed out on in life. Partner has died and too weak and old to have sex or even think about it. Yes it’s cheating but you do everything for your loved one. Is a wank enough? The feel and touch of another body. The need to feel attractive. The need to lie with someone and feel the heat from there body. I’ve known so many men & women in sexless loveless marriage but still best friends & married. Who are we to judge a situation. Live & let live. Fab is a sex site and anonymous. Here to have fun and leave our normal lives and step out into real fantasy. I await the criticism. " If that case they just married for benefits and to scared to sever the financial burdens and debt in most cases | |||
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"So if a guy/woman is in a loving relationship but totally sexless. Is he/she supposed to stay in the relationship or go for a bit on the side? Life is very short and both sexes have needs. So you sit in the retirement home thinking back with regrets of all you missed out on in life. Partner has died and too weak and old to have sex or even think about it. Yes it’s cheating but you do everything for your loved one. Is a wank enough? The feel and touch of another body. The need to feel attractive. The need to lie with someone and feel the heat from there body. I’ve known so many men & women in sexless loveless marriage but still best friends & married. Who are we to judge a situation. Live & let live. Fab is a sex site and anonymous. Here to have fun and leave our normal lives and step out into real fantasy. I await the criticism. " OK but I that full thing yiu only spoke about one partner the one who's doing the cheating what about all adverse side effect of said actions what about the respect of the relationship ? Is all this fine because the sex is gone? | |||
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"Let he (or she or gender neutral or gender fluid) who is without sin cast the first stone......." Who's casting stones I'm casting g light on subject people would rather not speak about I like to uncover the darker sides to sex thos is one of them threads | |||
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"So if a guy/woman is in a loving relationship but totally sexless. Is he/she supposed to stay in the relationship or go for a bit on the side? Life is very short and both sexes have needs. So you sit in the retirement home thinking back with regrets of all you missed out on in life. Partner has died and too weak and old to have sex or even think about it. Yes it’s cheating but you do everything for your loved one. Is a wank enough? The feel and touch of another body. The need to feel attractive. The need to lie with someone and feel the heat from there body. I’ve known so many men & women in sexless loveless marriage but still best friends & married. Who are we to judge a situation. Live & let live. Fab is a sex site and anonymous. Here to have fun and leave our normal lives and step out into real fantasy. I await the criticism. If that case they just married for benefits and to scared to sever the financial burdens and debt in most cases " Probably correct in this hypothesis. Fab is convenient for those who want their cake and eat it. And I haven’t walked a mile in your shoes and I’m not judging! | |||
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"I'm grateful for the ones who have it on their bios, then I can avoid them. It's not for me, as half a couple I'd hate it done to men, so would never knowingly help someone else cheat. Its the ones who try and hide it I can't stand. They take away other people's choices not to meet attached men/women & that's not right. " The butter wouldn't melt crowd really grinds my gears | |||
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"Don’t ask people to judge .many reasons people want to play !" Dony ask pwolle to cheat on paramour but they out her doing at too so its a we bit about practice what's being preached | |||
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"So if a guy/woman is in a loving relationship but totally sexless. Is he/she supposed to stay in the relationship or go for a bit on the side? Life is very short and both sexes have needs. So you sit in the retirement home thinking back with regrets of all you missed out on in life. Partner has died and too weak and old to have sex or even think about it. Yes it’s cheating but you do everything for your loved one. Is a wank enough? The feel and touch of another body. The need to feel attractive. The need to lie with someone and feel the heat from there body. I’ve known so many men & women in sexless loveless marriage but still best friends & married. Who are we to judge a situation. Live & let live. Fab is a sex site and anonymous. Here to have fun and leave our normal lives and step out into real fantasy. I await the criticism. Would that person they cheated on still think they had a "loving relationship? " Cook um chef | |||
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"So if a guy/woman is in a loving relationship but totally sexless. Is he/she supposed to stay in the relationship or go for a bit on the side? Life is very short and both sexes have needs. So you sit in the retirement home thinking back with regrets of all you missed out on in life. Partner has died and too weak and old to have sex or even think about it. Yes it’s cheating but you do everything for your loved one. Is a wank enough? The feel and touch of another body. The need to feel attractive. The need to lie with someone and feel the heat from there body. I’ve known so many men & women in sexless loveless marriage but still best friends & married. Who are we to judge a situation. Live & let live. Fab is a sex site and anonymous. Here to have fun and leave our normal lives and step out into real fantasy. I await the criticism. If that case they just married for benefits and to scared to sever the financial burdens and debt in most cases Probably correct in this hypothesis. Fab is convenient for those who want their cake and eat it. And I haven’t walked a mile in your shoes and I’m not judging!" Then tbh ats nit a relationship and them continuing that is exactly wanting yiur cake ie things be OK with ought change while yiur out actively trying to change who yoru partner is hahaha I just caught at other who are finical tied to people never let yourself get to that stage they are in effect trapped to the situation | |||
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"So if a guy/woman is in a loving relationship but totally sexless. Is he/she supposed to stay in the relationship or go for a bit on the side? Life is very short and both sexes have needs. So you sit in the retirement home thinking back with regrets of all you missed out on in life. Partner has died and too weak and old to have sex or even think about it. Yes it’s cheating but you do everything for your loved one. Is a wank enough? The feel and touch of another body. The need to feel attractive. The need to lie with someone and feel the heat from there body. I’ve known so many men & women in sexless loveless marriage but still best friends & married. Who are we to judge a situation. Live & let live. Fab is a sex site and anonymous. Here to have fun and leave our normal lives and step out into real fantasy. I await the criticism. If that case they just married for benefits and to scared to sever the financial burdens and debt in most cases Probably correct in this hypothesis. Fab is convenient for those who want their cake and eat it. And I haven’t walked a mile in your shoes and I’m not judging!" Ooh I know yiu ain't but I'm sure many are for alot such as thread alone my vie my spelling how I look thus if it's happening why can't we all partake in it lol as I said nit just something that people say doesn't happen it happens and I ain't missing out on it we love seeing how this stuff turn people against us | |||
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"So if a guy/woman is in a loving relationship but totally sexless. Is he/she supposed to stay in the relationship or go for a bit on the side? Life is very short and both sexes have needs. So you sit in the retirement home thinking back with regrets of all you missed out on in life. Partner has died and too weak and old to have sex or even think about it. Yes it’s cheating but you do everything for your loved one. Is a wank enough? The feel and touch of another body. The need to feel attractive. The need to lie with someone and feel the heat from there body. I’ve known so many men & women in sexless loveless marriage but still best friends & married. Who are we to judge a situation. Live & let live. Fab is a sex site and anonymous. Here to have fun and leave our normal lives and step out into real fantasy. I await the criticism. If that case they just married for benefits and to scared to sever the financial burdens and debt in most cases Probably correct in this hypothesis. Fab is convenient for those who want their cake and eat it. And I haven’t walked a mile in your shoes and I’m not judging! Then tbh ats nit a relationship and them continuing that is exactly wanting yiur cake ie things be OK with ought change while yiur out actively trying to change who yoru partner is hahaha I just caught at other who are finical tied to people never let yourself get to that stage they are in effect trapped to the situation " What’s the difference between a scorned wife? When they are cumming they are warm and wet, when they have gone you will find most likely they have taken the house and the car. It’s that simple! | |||
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"Some have been honest with us. Some haven’t. We’ve always said to people that we don’t mind, it’s nothing to do with us and the people we invite for our own enjoyment, however, we always say to each prospective person if they are attached and their partner doesn’t know, we don’t want to be involved in any drama. We don’t want partners knocking on our door yelling at us. Drama is not for us. It’s up to those people if they’re gonna do it, to do it in a way they can keep discreet. " So yiur in crowd of if do it don't care just not round us ? | |||
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"So if a guy/woman is in a loving relationship but totally sexless. Is he/she supposed to stay in the relationship or go for a bit on the side? Life is very short and both sexes have needs. So you sit in the retirement home thinking back with regrets of all you missed out on in life. Partner has died and too weak and old to have sex or even think about it. Yes it’s cheating but you do everything for your loved one. Is a wank enough? The feel and touch of another body. The need to feel attractive. The need to lie with someone and feel the heat from there body. I’ve known so many men & women in sexless loveless marriage but still best friends & married. Who are we to judge a situation. Live & let live. Fab is a sex site and anonymous. Here to have fun and leave our normal lives and step out into real fantasy. I await the criticism. If that case they just married for benefits and to scared to sever the financial burdens and debt in most cases Probably correct in this hypothesis. Fab is convenient for those who want their cake and eat it. And I haven’t walked a mile in your shoes and I’m not judging! Then tbh ats nit a relationship and them continuing that is exactly wanting yiur cake ie things be OK with ought change while yiur out actively trying to change who yoru partner is hahaha I just caught at other who are finical tied to people never let yourself get to that stage they are in effect trapped to the situation What’s the difference between a scorned wife? When they are cumming they are warm and wet, when they have gone you will find most likely they have taken the house and the car. It’s that simple!" well them maybe don't be dumb and attach finances to each other also in marriage its 50 /50 assist are shared unless infedility | |||
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"For me there isn’t a problem with wanting a bit extra after all how many of you have turned down second helpings of pudding?" Funny how most men don't see a problem with it! And to compare cheating on someone you are supposed to love/care about with pudding says it all really | |||
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"For me there isn’t a problem with wanting a bit extra after all how many of you have turned down second helpings of pudding?" Second helping that was someone else that was in bathroom many times if yiu can't word foe that is selfish | |||
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"I think some open couples and swingers can do enough themselves to give a bad rep" I've yet to see this but hear about it murmord I've been in scene 12 year lucky enough to only have same dram with same crowd always lol so don't seem have full problems with sexual aspect or other couples coming at us for sexual activities guess we just must be with the vanilla folks | |||
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"For me there isn’t a problem with wanting a bit extra after all how many of you have turned down second helpings of pudding? Funny how most men don't see a problem with it! And to compare cheating on someone you are supposed to love/care about with pudding says it all really " Cook um | |||
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"For me there isn’t a problem with wanting a bit extra after all how many of you have turned down second helpings of pudding? Funny how most men don't see a problem with it! And to compare cheating on someone you are supposed to love/care about with pudding says it all really Some men not all. As one who was wronged many years ago I see no merit in those seeking second helpings?" Some females too the quote was originally about a girl fucking men going home to her man who says she loves him and kisses her after she's just swallwd loads now u said ats same as swingers when in reality he doesn't know he's being cucked | |||
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"For me there isn’t a problem with wanting a bit extra after all how many of you have turned down second helpings of pudding?" If me having a second helping meant someone else couldn't have any, I'd turn it down. But ethics vary between people 💜 | |||
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"For me there isn’t a problem with wanting a bit extra after all how many of you have turned down second helpings of pudding? Funny how most men don't see a problem with it! And to compare cheating on someone you are supposed to love/care about with pudding says it all really Some men not all. As one who was wronged many years ago I see no merit in those seeking second helpings?" That's why I said most as I know not all men are lowlifes who think just with their dick. P.s I include women who cheat in the same bracket. There are no reasons to cheat, just excuses. | |||
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"If we know we avoid last thing we want is an upset partner hunting us down, " This, in a club it doesn't matter so much but a meet outside will mean texts, messages etc. The last thing we want is some deranged bunny boiler knocking on the door. | |||
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"If we know we avoid last thing we want is an upset partner hunting us down, This, in a club it doesn't matter so much but a meet outside will mean texts, messages etc. The last thing we want is some deranged bunny boiler knocking on the door. " Deranged bunny boiler seems a harsh term for a spouse who was lead to believe that the person they love loved them back | |||
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"For me there isn’t a problem with wanting a bit extra after all how many of you have turned down second helpings of pudding? If me having a second helping meant someone else couldn't have any, I'd turn it down. But ethics vary between people 💜" Thank god for some folks with moral compasses | |||
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"For me there isn’t a problem with wanting a bit extra after all how many of you have turned down second helpings of pudding? Funny how most men don't see a problem with it! And to compare cheating on someone you are supposed to love/care about with pudding says it all really Some men not all. As one who was wronged many years ago I see no merit in those seeking second helpings? That's why I said most as I know not all men are lowlifes who think just with their dick. P.s I include women who cheat in the same bracket. There are no reasons to cheat, just excuses." Say it louder foe those in the chat | |||
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"If we know we avoid last thing we want is an upset partner hunting us down, This, in a club it doesn't matter so much but a meet outside will mean texts, messages etc. The last thing we want is some deranged bunny boiler knocking on the door. " OK but if yiu d9nt avoid it and do sleep with married man or women do you feel that it wasn't yiur problem or fault etc or do yiu feel complicite | |||
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"If we know we avoid last thing we want is an upset partner hunting us down, This, in a club it doesn't matter so much but a meet outside will mean texts, messages etc. The last thing we want is some deranged bunny boiler knocking on the door. " Wow..charming | |||
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"If we know we avoid last thing we want is an upset partner hunting us down, This, in a club it doesn't matter so much but a meet outside will mean texts, messages etc. The last thing we want is some deranged bunny boiler knocking on the door. Deranged bunny boiler seems a harsh term for a spouse who was lead to believe that the person they love loved them back " Thought this my self isn't a bunny boiler someone who's trying to break a couple up that's twisted distorted thing they just did they said the wrong party would be the one in wrong that's some cia level of defelction | |||
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"In the none swinging world people cheat all the time. The swinging path can remove the need to cheat & so long as both partners are happy they can shag who we like or whatever they have agreed is ok. We choose to play together & to avoid as best as we can those in relationships So many in the swinging community are more unlikely to cheat than those in traditional relationships. Obviously lots of genuine single blokes on fab and we have met some great single blokes. However fab has its fair share of married men lurking, weirdos & those simply looking for self sexual gratification wanking away at picture or a sexual chat. These are not really swingers & can be questionable However what are they doing different than we are - we are all enjoying our own fantasy. Of course anyone who does not conform to the norm is ridiculed, be it political,religious, sexual, fashion etc " These are not really swingers & can be questionable This is point of the thread do others who masacrade in the community who get grouped in with us ie all those yius and whoa rnt real swingers then bring a negative aura to the group as whole ie we allow it and know its here but think it has no adverse effect on how its vied from outside | |||
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"Does chloe no longer meet married men to suck and fuck in vans?" No she doesn't and beleiev me she could if she wanted to I can't stop her but what I will do is make her understand the trauma that she causing onto other for participation in acts and also you not think she feel some type a way about that past that what u mean by passing trauma onto unsepeting people who now need deal with thing they did because other was straight up decitefull but good swing as no one had smoking about chloe enabling it too don't worry she isn't an angel in anything she looks more innocent than she is | |||
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"Does chloe no longer meet married men to suck and fuck in vans? Those were the honest ones who fessed up to being married first " Thanks for having my back but no only one was honest they other one she has deal with trauma from | |||
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"Personally I was cheated on by my Ex wife. It's not something I find is an endearing feature naturally. Me and my other half have encountered a fair few over the years. Men, women and couples (where one or othen both are cheating). Especially in the club environment (we don't do online as much). However my/our main goal is the fulfilment of desire, not to police the morality of others who shoes we don't stand in. I know world isn't aways black and white. But that's not to say I/we haven't got or own moral compass or ability to police our own morality. And that's why in genral cheating is a pretty exclusionary factor. However I'd be a hypocrite to say I/we have never with someone playing away in the club environment. Everything is a ballance of factors including our own desires. So there has been the rare occasion we have knowingly. However I would just say clubs feel like a different time and space. I think it's far less likely it'd happen outside of the boundaries of the club." Oooh that's crazy man and to consider yourself being cheating but you don't care for the well being of the person being cheated on in the club yiur showing yourself up to be what yiur word is called enabler | |||
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"Personally I was cheated on by my Ex wife. It's not something I find is an endearing feature naturally. Me and my other half have encountered a fair few over the years. Men, women and couples (where one or othen both are cheating). Especially in the club environment (we don't do online as much). However my/our main goal is the fulfilment of desire, not to police the morality of others who shoes we don't stand in. I know world isn't aways black and white. But that's not to say I/we haven't got or own moral compass or ability to police our own morality. And that's why in genral cheating is a pretty exclusionary factor. However I'd be a hypocrite to say I/we have never with someone playing away in the club environment. Everything is a ballance of factors including our own desires. So there has been the rare occasion we have knowingly. However I would just say clubs feel like a different time and space. I think it's far less likely it'd happen outside of the boundaries of the club." And doesn't show u dint have or lack of moral compass it shows your moral compass is skwed as even after it happening to yiur your still willing to commit it to other or be apart of that trauma to someone else | |||
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