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"No one is obligated to reply on here . Usually a no reply is a reply. I’ve still got over 600 unread messages it’s absolutely impossible to reply to every message received. " Who sent the other one | |||
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"No one is obligated to reply on here . Usually a no reply is a reply. I’ve still got over 600 unread messages it’s absolutely impossible to reply to every message received. " a no reply is a no reply doesn't matter where it is or whether its written in the rules, I understand why but lots of guys don't | |||
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"Exactly, filters should do most of the work for you. Thanks for your reply." If you use the reply+quote button under the post you're responding to it makes it easier to see who you're talking to | |||
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"It is when that means you could message that person at any point in the future even if their filters change. There are numerous threads about this subject and they all point out the harsh truth: no reply means no thanks." This really. I’ve been here around nine years now. Several years ago I was a proper photo tart and was ridiculously popular - I had hundreds of messages from different guys every day - totalling over a thousand in a week - and that was with age/site supporter/public pics etc filters on. If I’d sent a polite no thanks to them all then there’d be literally no chance or point of me blocking single males (which I’ve done very occasionally when it just got too much or I definitely wasn’t meeting) - as countless thousands (after 9 years) would be able to message anyway. And put it this way - when you get a double glazing leaflet through the door - do you call or write to thank them for sending it but you don’t want it thanks? Do you heck! Ps - if I’m interested in a guy I message with a face pic - and if he doesn’t message back I simply assume I’m not his type - nobody is everyone’s type. | |||
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"Exactly, filters should do most of the work for you. Thanks for your reply. If you use the reply+quote button under the post you're responding to it makes it easier to see who you're talking to " I realised that after i sent it, sorry, I don't go in the forum much | |||
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"From the male perspective it's a little insulting when you have made the effort to approach or respond to a profile that you are simply ignored a simple reply of no thanks at least demonstrated a degree of bad manners , to ignore is just rude and ignorant. other views and opinions may be available this is just my personal opinion " It's also a little insulting when someone you've replied to and said thanks but no thanks then gets in touch again a few weeks later with the same message we've already responded to. It's also insulting when we were so amazing in the opening message but suddenly become hideous, up our own hole and full of crap when we politely say they aren't what we are looking for. | |||
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"Exactly, filters should do most of the work for you. Thanks for your reply. If you use the reply+quote button under the post you're responding to it makes it easier to see who you're talking to I realised that after i sent it, sorry, I don't go in the forum much" No apology needed . Lots of people don't realise at first | |||
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"It is when that means you could message that person at any point in the future even if their filters change. There are numerous threads about this subject and they all point out the harsh truth: no reply means no thanks. This really. I’ve been here around nine years now. Several years ago I was a proper photo tart and was ridiculously popular - I had hundreds of messages from different guys every day - totalling over a thousand in a week - and that was with age/site supporter/public pics etc filters on. If I’d sent a polite no thanks to them all then there’d be literally no chance or point of me blocking single males (which I’ve done very occasionally when it just got too much or I definitely wasn’t meeting) - as countless thousands (after 9 years) would be able to message anyway. And put it this way - when you get a double glazing leaflet through the door - do you call or write to thank them for sending it but you don’t want it thanks? Do you heck! Ps - if I’m interested in a guy I message with a face pic - and if he doesn’t message back I simply assume I’m not his type - nobody is everyone’s type. " For a start, Lucky you. Most of us on here are lucky to get one message. I think in your case, it's easier for you to block single guys and send out the messages to the ones you like instead lol. I'm genuinely not here to upset anyone though, It's just my frustration coming through. | |||
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"I message people and get blocked and not replied to all the time! They're playing the long game, I know what they're up to the little minxes " in Blocked. | |||
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"Why do you believe sending an unsolicited message to a woman makes you entitled to her time?" Wow you must gain your meets by telepathy.. | |||
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"People are needy on here. I think no reply is preferable to a straight out rejection. " Since when did common courtesy become needy? | |||
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"People are needy on here. I think no reply is preferable to a straight out rejection. Since when did common courtesy become needy? " The same time understanding the rules of no reply means no thank you became rude. | |||
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"People are needy on here. I think no reply is preferable to a straight out rejection. Since when did common courtesy become needy? " It's not common courtesy to to expect a reply to am unsolicited message to say you aren't interested. | |||
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"Why do you believe sending an unsolicited message to a woman makes you entitled to her time? Wow you must gain your meets by telepathy.. " Chloroform usually. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" Even as a single guy I sometimes get a snarky response if I send a polite "no thanks." I don't think I've had 600 messages ever, let alone in a week. It would suck the soul out of me to send a polite no thanks to 590 people a week, even if that was the end of it. But then to receive another couple of hundred asking why not is too much. No thanks! Gbat | |||
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"People are needy on here. I think no reply is preferable to a straight out rejection. Since when did common courtesy become needy? It's not common courtesy to to expect a reply to am unsolicited message to say you aren't interested. " And/or, it's just different rules of conduct online. Offline, you're much less likely to get someone arguing with you or insulting you if you say no thanks. I'd say no thanks to everyone if I could guarantee that the rate of abuse/begging/negotiating was the same as it was in real life. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" At least it got read op, probably better than a straight delete and block | |||
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" a simple reply of no thanks at least demonstrated a degree of bad manners " Hang on, @_ampire69, are you saying that it's slightly bad mannered to say no thanks, but even ruder to ignore a message? Have I misunderstood you, because if I read your post properly, there seems to be no polite way out of avoiding some people? Gbat | |||
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"It's a pain in the ass when you put effort in a message according to their instructions and then they just delete the message WTF " This. I've got to the point now where I don't bother sending messages anymore. There is nothing more frustrating than writing out a thoughtful, detailed, polite message that shows your have read their profile and requirements, only to see it get deleted unread. Now I just send a wink to show I am interested. Its a lot less disheartening if you don't get a wink back, than it is when you have taken the time and effort to send a detailed message. | |||
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"Why do you believe sending an unsolicited message to a woman makes you entitled to her time? Wow you must gain your meets by telepathy.. " Exactly, and it's not an unsolicited message if that's what the site is for, and she allows messages from single guys. | |||
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"op what makes you think your owed a response ??? nobody is owed anything on here no one asked you to message them so why should those who have zero interest reply ?? you know the answer and its in the rules of the website too no reply is not rude however its rude that you expect a answer to every message you send" I never said I "expect" an answer. But if I put the effort in to read their profile, put together a good message, follow their "put this in your title" thing, etc etc, A "no thanks" doesn't seem too much to ask for in return, especially if I fall into the category of what they are looking for. | |||
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"Here we go again " Sorry, new to forum. (Clearly) | |||
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" a simple reply of no thanks at least demonstrated a degree of bad manners Hang on, @_ampire69, are you saying that it's slightly bad mannered to say no thanks, but even ruder to ignore a message? Have I misunderstood you, because if I read your post properly, there seems to be no polite way out of avoiding some people? Gbat " It’s happened to me this week, I’ve replied, “no thank you, happy fabbing”/“Thank you but I’m not meeting” then I get questioned, if I’m not meeting, why do I have veri’s saying I’ve met people… Sometimes chaps can come across as aggressive, the last socials I had were months ago but because they’re on my profile, some guys think you have to meet them because you’ve met others before | |||
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"It's a pain in the ass when you put effort in a message according to their instructions and then they just delete the message WTF This. I've got to the point now where I don't bother sending messages anymore. There is nothing more frustrating than writing out a thoughtful, detailed, polite message that shows your have read their profile and requirements, only to see it get deleted unread. Now I just send a wink to show I am interested. Its a lot less disheartening if you don't get a wink back, than it is when you have taken the time and effort to send a detailed message. " Understandable, but rigidly following a profile doesn't mean you should expect a reply still. It might be the perfect message, but if other things aren't what they're looking for, why should they reply? Disheartening, sure. But managing ones own expectations is a good cure for disappointment. | |||
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"Exactly, filters should do most of the work for you. Thanks for your reply." Did you miss the bit about replying to you exempts you from their filters in the future? | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" Do you respond to every one of those takeaway leaflets they put through your letterbox? Ring them each and just politely say "no thanks, I'm not interested today"? Cal | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" Can you please respond no thanks to each post on here, I thinks that's not too much to ask as we've taken the time to post | |||
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"It's a pain in the ass when you put effort in a message according to their instructions and then they just delete the message WTF This. I've got to the point now where I don't bother sending messages anymore. There is nothing more frustrating than writing out a thoughtful, detailed, polite message that shows your have read their profile and requirements, only to see it get deleted unread. Now I just send a wink to show I am interested. Its a lot less disheartening if you don't get a wink back, than it is when you have taken the time and effort to send a detailed message. " Would you be happy to post an example of a message you'd send here? | |||
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"Can you please respond no thanks to each post on here, I thinks that's not too much to ask as we've taken the time to post " Threadkiller! Perhaps the OP could send us each a message thanking us for our contribution? Gbat | |||
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"Why do you believe sending an unsolicited message to a woman makes you entitled to her time? Wow you must gain your meets by telepathy.. Exactly, and it's not an unsolicited message if that's what the site is for, and she allows messages from single guys." Presumably you have a letterbox. I post a sausage roll through your letter box. You could eat it. You could through it away as you're suspicious of its origins. You could show it to all your friends. It's your letter box, once over the threshold, it's yours to do as you like with it. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask? Do you respond to every one of those takeaway leaflets they put through your letterbox? Ring them each and just politely say "no thanks, I'm not interested today"? Cal" No, but that's not the point, is it. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask? Can you please respond no thanks to each post on here, I thinks that's not too much to ask as we've taken the time to post " I'm replying to most. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" I’ll reply with a nice message and a no thanks if it’s evident that the sender has done their side of the bargain by at least skimming our profile to see what it is that we’re looking for. If it’s clear that they haven’t been bothered to do that and they’re taking a scatter gun approach then I can’t be bothered to reply! I wouldn’t just say ‘no thanks’ because I find it results in stroppy messages back and a general feeling from our side of why did we bother to reply in the first place! | |||
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"I'm replying to most." Perhaps that's what those women say when they don't reply to you?! Gbat | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask? I’ll reply with a nice message and a no thanks if it’s evident that the sender has done their side of the bargain by at least skimming our profile to see what it is that we’re looking for. If it’s clear that they haven’t been bothered to do that and they’re taking a scatter gun approach then I can’t be bothered to reply! I wouldn’t just say ‘no thanks’ because I find it results in stroppy messages back and a general feeling from our side of why did we bother to reply in the first place! " Thank you, I salute you xxx | |||
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"op what makes you think your owed a response ??? nobody is owed anything on here no one asked you to message them so why should those who have zero interest reply ?? you know the answer and its in the rules of the website too no reply is not rude however its rude that you expect a answer to every message you send I never said I "expect" an answer. But if I put the effort in to read their profile, put together a good message, follow their "put this in your title" thing, etc etc, A "no thanks" doesn't seem too much to ask for in return, especially if I fall into the category of what they are looking for." I have no guarantee that a good message writer (but not for me) is any less likely to be abusive than a copy paster | |||
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"Why do you believe sending an unsolicited message to a woman makes you entitled to her time?" Absolutely this! | |||
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"op what makes you think your owed a response ??? nobody is owed anything on here no one asked you to message them so why should those who have zero interest reply ?? you know the answer and its in the rules of the website too no reply is not rude however its rude that you expect a answer to every message you send I never said I "expect" an answer. But if I put the effort in to read their profile, put together a good message, follow their "put this in your title" thing, etc etc, A "no thanks" doesn't seem too much to ask for in return, especially if I fall into the category of what they are looking for." You think you fall into their categories But if they read your profile and something they don't like They'll probably delete without even reading the message The simple facts are Fab has site rules Site rules state No reply is a no thank you You signed up to the site rules | |||
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"I said no last week. The replies I got were very abusive " I reply and immediately block | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask? Can you please respond no thanks to each post on here, I thinks that's not too much to ask as we've taken the time to post I'm replying to most." But what if the ones you don't reply to are offended by you not replying? | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" Say you send 10 messages a day, at the end of the week you've got 70 "no thanks" by reply. 1 - do you feel better, hows your self esteem now 70 people have effectively said, we dont find you attractive? 2 - using your "rule" you'll be sending all 70 a "thanks for the no thanks, much appreciated" message back, yes or no? Winston | |||
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"Nobody owes you anything. Whatever your opening message and however polite you put it, you’re offering them cock at the end of the day, not an all-inclusive to Mauritius. " ain't that the truth! Just spat my coffee out over that | |||
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"op what makes you think your owed a response ??? nobody is owed anything on here no one asked you to message them so why should those who have zero interest reply ?? No reply is a no thank you You signed up to the site rules " Nail. On. Head. | |||
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"Nobody owes you anything. Whatever your opening message and however polite you put it, you’re offering them cock at the end of the day, not an all-inclusive to Mauritius. ain't that the truth! Just spat my coffee out over that " We try our best | |||
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"Why do you believe sending an unsolicited message to a woman makes you entitled to her time?" No reason to believe that at all. But if you don't want unsolicited messages from men who woukd like to get to know you why are you on a site such as this? | |||
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"It's to much when some guys send you abuse if you say no" Ruins it all for us single guys. Some ppl just can't take rejection of any sort suck it up buttercup | |||
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"A said no thanks to a guy earlier he then replied "why?" I asked him if he needed a reason to then be called a timewasting cow.. so nah al stick to not replying in future" Again just another it's such a shame cause probably some decent chat missed or friendships etc but tis what it is | |||
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"Why do you believe sending an unsolicited message to a woman makes you entitled to her time? No reason to believe that at all. But if you don't want unsolicited messages from men who woukd like to get to know you why are you on a site such as this? " I'm guessing to reply to the ones who they are interested in? | |||
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"Check out site FAQ's OP. The site owners have made it very clear https://www.fabswingers.com/articles/FAQ#noreply There are too many rude people on here who don't reply to my messages! It's not rude not to reply. Some ladies and couples get hundreds of messages a day so it simply isn't possible for them to reply to everyone. If you don't get a response, you should assume they aren't interested. If you're getting a lot of "no-replies" then you should consider your profile and the messages you send. Are they giving the right message? Are you standing out from the thousands of other guys on here? " This! 100%!! I’ve said it before - the definition of madness is to keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Single gents if you’re not getting results then you need to take a moment and consider what you’re doing. Switch it up, change profile, swap pics around, try a different approach. Nothing good comes with no/little effort! | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" When you volunteer to become a secretary for the ladies who get hundreds of pointless e-mails a day and you choose to spends hours copying and pasting "no thanks" to people who show little consideration for the women they are writing to, that's when it won't be too much to ask. Have you volunteered your time for this? If not, why do you think the recipients should? People who say this sort of thing have no idea how bad the messages are that clog up mailboxes every day. | |||
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"Why do you believe sending an unsolicited message to a woman makes you entitled to her time? No reason to believe that at all. But if you don't want unsolicited messages from men who woukd like to get to know you why are you on a site such as this? " I think what they are saying is they will get the messages, but why does the OP or anyone else think they are thereby entitled to her time just because they sent one? To paraphrase, "By all means send a message, but don't expect a guaranteed response." Gbat | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" If you struggle to accept no response, how will you handle multiple messages telling you no thanks? | |||
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"Why do you believe sending an unsolicited message to a woman makes you entitled to her time? No reason to believe that at all. But if you don't want unsolicited messages from men who woukd like to get to know you why are you on a site such as this? I think what they are saying is they will get the messages, but why does the OP or anyone else think they are thereby entitled to her time just because they sent one? To paraphrase, "By all means send a message, but don't expect a guaranteed response." Gbat " | |||
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"Didn't realise I can't message anyone on a chat/swingers site. Hmmm wonder why there's a message function......" I think you're getting the wrong end of the stick here. Nobody has said you can't send messages, but a lot of people have said you can't expect a response. If you do get a response, great. If you don't, move on. It's not bad manners, it's how this works. Gbat | |||
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"Didn't realise I can't message anyone on a chat/swingers site. Hmmm wonder why there's a message function...... I think you're getting the wrong end of the stick here. Nobody has said you can't send messages, but a lot of people have said you can't expect a response. If you do get a response, great. If you don't, move on. It's not bad manners, it's how this works. Gbat " No wrong end, how is me looking at a profile and messaging unsolicited? that's the purpose of it if it goes unread or not responded to, I certainly don't take offence just says exactly as they say no interest, lost in amongst messages etc etc. I just think this I am on the site don't message or state things are unsolicited is incorrect.... | |||
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"It's to much when some guys send you abuse if you say no Ruins it all for us single guys. Some ppl just can't ta ke rejection of any sort suck it up buttercup " sad but true | |||
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"Here we go again " Exactly what I thought Are we aware we’re only allowed one of these threads every 7 days? | |||
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"Yes, it's too much to expect" What JK said. | |||
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"I posted this comment on another similar thread which summarises what I think about this particular point: “I think the other thing to remember is that you’re messaging another person/people with real-life responsibilities, concerns and worries etc, and the moment your message arrives may not be a particularly good one for them. There’s no obligation for the recipient to reply in any timeframe (or at all for that matter), so at the risk of repeating what lots of people have already said, don’t read anything in to a lack of response, other than if you don’t get a reply, take it that the person/couple aren’t interested. And it’s important to respect that fact by not communicating any further. Some people may take the time to send a nice ‘thanks for your message but you’re not for us’, or words to that effect sort of message, but not everyone is able to do that given that they’re probably inundated with hundreds of messages. So, as others have already said, if you get a response, that’s great - chat away - but if you don’t, that’s ok. Move on gracefully.” In sum, yes it would be nice to receive a polite ‘no thank you’ sort of message, but the simple fact is that not everyone has the time or inclination to do so. And there is no specified requirement to do so." | |||
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"Nobody owes you anything. Whatever your opening message and however polite you put it, you’re offering them cock at the end of the day, not an all-inclusive to Mauritius. " I was offering a free photoshoot actually. | |||
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"I personally think it's rude you never messaged me OP. Id send you a dick pic and everything!" Tried, you have single guys blocked. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask? I'd feel better about it If you struggle to accept no response, how will you handle multiple messages telling you no thanks?" | |||
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"Here we go again Exactly what I thought Are we aware we’re only allowed one of these threads every 7 days? You can see the title, so you know what it's about. Some of us don't use the forum often, like me." It was a joke OP. Don’t take it to heart | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" But you do know that it ends up something like why and so on then turn nasty so a no reply saves having to put up with anything | |||
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"Here we go again Exactly what I thought Are we aware we’re only allowed one of these threads every 7 days? " Think they appear every seven hours. Can't understand people getting their knickers in a twist about someone they don't know not replying to a message they didn't ask fir. Also Can't understand that people don't read the previous 3467 threads on the same topic. | |||
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"Nobody is owed a reply, but anyone that sends me a "no thanks" always gets a reply again saying I'll leave them in peace and I hope they find what they are looking for (or equivalent). They didn't ignore you, they took time to reply even if it's not the answer you wanted, the least I can do is let them know there's no hard feelings. " That's why a lot don't reply. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" But in my experience it leads to a ‘but why’ conversation, and as I’m not in the business of being a cunt I don’t wanna have to put someone down brutally! | |||
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"Here we go again Exactly what I thought Are we aware we’re only allowed one of these threads every 7 days? Think they appear every seven hours. Can't understand people getting their knickers in a twist about someone they don't know not replying to a message they didn't ask fir. Also Can't understand that people don't read the previous 3467 threads on the same topic. " Because I'm new to the forum and have not seen the 3467 threads on the same topic. Have you posted in all of those too, or is this your first? | |||
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"Here we go again Exactly what I thought Are we aware we’re only allowed one of these threads every 7 days? Think they appear every seven hours. Can't understand people getting their knickers in a twist about someone they don't know not replying to a message they didn't ask fir. Also Can't understand that people don't read the previous 3467 threads on the same topic. Because I'm new to the forum and have not seen the 3467 threads on the same topic. Have you posted in all of those too, or is this your first?" Search function. Every forum has one. | |||
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"Here we go again Exactly what I thought Are we aware we’re only allowed one of these threads every 7 days? Think they appear every seven hours. Can't understand people getting their knickers in a twist about someone they don't know not replying to a message they didn't ask fir. Also Can't understand that people don't read the previous 3467 threads on the same topic. Because I'm new to the forum and have not seen the 3467 threads on the same topic. Have you posted in all of those too, or is this your first?" There is a search feature? | |||
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" anyone that sends me a "no thanks" always gets a reply again saying .... " But to be honest, I think a lot of people don't actually want this to happen. A no thanks should be the end of it really. Gbat | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Yes, yes it is Is it too much to ask?" | |||
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"Nobody owes you anything. Whatever your opening message and however polite you put it, you’re offering them cock at the end of the day, not an all-inclusive to Mauritius. I was offering a free photoshoot actually." Hahaha. Says it all. Try offering a free massage. That might work. | |||
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"Here we go again Exactly what I thought Are we aware we’re only allowed one of these threads every 7 days? Think they appear every seven hours. Can't understand people getting their knickers in a twist about someone they don't know not replying to a message they didn't ask fir. Also Can't understand that people don't read the previous 3467 threads on the same topic. Because I'm new to the forum and have not seen the 3467 threads on the same topic. Have you posted in all of those too, or is this your first? There is a search feature? " Is there one? Who knew? | |||
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"It would be a part time job to reply to every message " You would have to litealy employ a Fab secretary | |||
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"Why do you believe sending an unsolicited message to a woman makes you entitled to her time? Wow you must gain your meets by telepathy.. Chloroform usually." Haha put it on a pair of knickers and any guy will sniff them | |||
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"OP, ive cut and paste this message from another thread. Its sums up most womens experience on here: "from reading numerous threads re similar topics, i think its safe to say, if you are a woman on here, the following statements are accurate: You read a message, dont reply....guys get upset. You read a message, dont reply, delete the message...guys get upset. You dont read a message....guys get upset. You dont read a message, delete it...guys get upset. You read a message, reply saying thanks but no thanks...guys get upset. You read a message, reply, start a conversation, but don't respond quickly...guys get upset. You read a message, reply once, but dont reply to the next message immediately...guys get upset. I think i can see a pattern emerging there!!!" So, in conclusion...guys, deal with it. Its how FAB works. Yes, a reply even to just say "no thanks" would be nice. But no one owes us a anything. Stop whining!!!" This | |||
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" Single gents if you’re not getting results then you need to take a moment and consider what you’re doing. Switch it up, change profile, swap pics around, try a different approach. Nothing good comes with no/little effort! " I would assume most single men on here put in plenty of effort with their profiles, photos and messages, I know I do. My view is there is only so much you can do, only so many times you can tweek your profile, only so many different types of photos you can add. From my own personal point of view (as I can't speak for any other single male on here), I made a things to do list when I created my profile after looking at a lot of other singles guys profiles. Detailed bio ? Face photos ? Full body photos ? The one thing out of my control is my dad bod, man boobs and flabby bits. So I'm not sure there is anything else I can do with my profile page. | |||
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" Single gents if you’re not getting results then you need to take a moment and consider what you’re doing. Switch it up, change profile, swap pics around, try a different approach. Nothing good comes with no/little effort! I would assume most single men on here put in plenty of effort with their profiles, photos and messages, I know I do. My view is there is only so much you can do, only so many times you can tweek your profile, only so many different types of photos you can add. From my own personal point of view (as I can't speak for any other single male on here), I made a things to do list when I created my profile after looking at a lot of other singles guys profiles. Detailed bio ? Face photos ? Full body photos ? The one thing out of my control is my dad bod, man boobs and flabby bits. So I'm not sure there is anything else I can do with my profile page. " If you keep drawing attention to your perceived flaws that's the only thing people will see when looking at your profile. Guys like to point out that their age is against them or their body shape and how they are expected to compete against the chiselled bods. Best advice is remove all negativity from a profile, own what you have to offer rather than telling people what you think might put them off and stop competing with everyone else. Every negative forum post or bio comment adds to the competition you are having with yourself and doesn't need the involvement of anyone else. Just as someone blaming the actions of other men for how they themselves are perceived is a weak argument so also is the belief that because they tick certain boxes it should automatically ensure a different response. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" If they've read the profile, meet with our interests and have public photos, then they'll generally get a polite no thanks but otherwise it's in the bin. Even when you say no thanks they still come back with another chancer, so for that reason if you don't fit the bill you won't get a response. If we get repeated mails from the same thick skinned idiots, then it'll be the block button too! | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" Unfortunately yes, it is too much to ask. Because for some reason or another, a "no thanks" reply isn't good enough. Leading to follow up messages of "why not?" and/or straight up abuse because they can't handle the slightest little bruise to their ego. For the volume of messages women get on here, it's simply too much time and effort going through every message to reply "no thanks" and then to deal with the follow-up BS that often leads to. | |||
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" Single gents if you’re not getting results then you need to take a moment and consider what you’re doing. Switch it up, change profile, swap pics around, try a different approach. Nothing good comes with no/little effort! I would assume most single men on here put in plenty of effort with their profiles, photos and messages, I know I do. My view is there is only so much you can do, only so many times you can tweek your profile, only so many different types of photos you can add. From my own personal point of view (as I can't speak for any other single male on here), I made a things to do list when I created my profile after looking at a lot of other singles guys profiles. Detailed bio ? Face photos ? Full body photos ? The one thing out of my control is my dad bod, man boobs and flabby bits. So I'm not sure there is anything else I can do with my profile page. If you keep drawing attention to your perceived flaws that's the only thing people will see when looking at your profile. Guys like to point out that their age is against them or their body shape and how they are expected to compete against the chiselled bods. Best advice is remove all negativity from a profile, own what you have to offer rather than telling people what you think might put them off and stop competing with everyone else. Every negative forum post or bio comment adds to the competition you are having with yourself and doesn't need the involvement of anyone else. Just as someone blaming the actions of other men for how they themselves are perceived is a weak argument so also is the belief that because they tick certain boxes it should automatically ensure a different response. " I see where you are coming from buddy, but having just had a look at your profile and photos (hope you don't mind), you obviously have a gym body, and like others with the gym bods on here , you have had dozens of meets and verifications to prove it . It's no coincidence that those on here who work out have far more success in meeting people than the rest of us who don't. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" Ah the daily why don't women reply thread. Thought we were going to have a day without | |||
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" Single gents if you’re not getting results then you need to take a moment and consider what you’re doing. Switch it up, change profile, swap pics around, try a different approach. Nothing good comes with no/little effort! I would assume most single men on here put in plenty of effort with their profiles, photos and messages, I know I do. My view is there is only so much you can do, only so many times you can tweek your profile, only so many different types of photos you can add. From my own personal point of view (as I can't speak for any other single male on here), I made a things to do list when I created my profile after looking at a lot of other singles guys profiles. Detailed bio ? Face photos ? Full body photos ? The one thing out of my control is my dad bod, man boobs and flabby bits. So I'm not sure there is anything else I can do with my profile page. If you keep drawing attention to your perceived flaws that's the only thing people will see when looking at your profile. Guys like to point out that their age is against them or their body shape and how they are expected to compete against the chiselled bods. Best advice is remove all negativity from a profile, own what you have to offer rather than telling people what you think might put them off and stop competing with everyone else. Every negative forum post or bio comment adds to the competition you are having with yourself and doesn't need the involvement of anyone else. Just as someone blaming the actions of other men for how they themselves are perceived is a weak argument so also is the belief that because they tick certain boxes it should automatically ensure a different response. I see where you are coming from buddy, but having just had a look at your profile and photos (hope you don't mind), you obviously have a gym body, and like others with the gym bods on here , you have had dozens of meets and verifications to prove it . It's no coincidence that those on here who work out have far more success in meeting people than the rest of us who don't. " I went to a gym a couple of times years ago. Never went back. I don't work out at all and never have done. The vast majority of my meets have been at socials | |||
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"Why do you believe sending an unsolicited message to a woman makes you entitled to her time? Wow you must gain your meets by telepathy.. Exactly, and it's not an unsolicited message if that's what the site is for, and she allows messages from single guys." NO...we allow single guys to message us ...that meet our asks and criteria. | |||
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"For those who craft proper messages and only for those profiles they think they match, the pizza flyer isn't a great analogy. In my mind it's more like a job advert. You like the look of the job, and Yiu think you meet the criteria. You spend a bit of time crafting a covering letter. And nothing. Now, I'd be miffed I'd this was a company. They pay people to say no thanks. I'm cool with it when it's fab because people aren't paid to be here and so it's their time. And as before I was doing it as I wanted something rather tha doing a favour. " And presumably the proportion of applicants who send a message back saying "I wouldn't work for you anyway, you worthless piece of shit, I'm gonna burn your office down" etc is miniscule... | |||
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"For those who craft proper messages and only for those profiles they think they match, the pizza flyer isn't a great analogy. In my mind it's more like a job advert. You like the look of the job, and Yiu think you meet the criteria. You spend a bit of time crafting a covering letter. And nothing. Now, I'd be miffed I'd this was a company. They pay people to say no thanks. I'm cool with it when it's fab because people aren't paid to be here and so it's their time. And as before I was doing it as I wanted something rather tha doing a favour. And presumably the proportion of applicants who send a message back saying "I wouldn't work for you anyway, you worthless piece of shit, I'm gonna burn your office down" etc is miniscule..." that too. I'm not trying to defend the "expect a reply" position. I just don't think the pizza example is helpful to allow empathy to the guys here. Both sides could do well in understanding the others imo. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" Get a pen and Paper and write "No Thanks" a thousand times. Just accept it and move on and stop message bombing women and you may not get so frustrated by the lack of response. | |||
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"For those who craft proper messages and only for those profiles they think they match, the pizza flyer isn't a great analogy. In my mind it's more like a job advert. You like the look of the job, and Yiu think you meet the criteria. You spend a bit of time crafting a covering letter. And nothing. Now, I'd be miffed I'd this was a company. They pay people to say no thanks. I'm cool with it when it's fab because people aren't paid to be here and so it's their time. And as before I was doing it as I wanted something rather tha doing a favour. And presumably the proportion of applicants who send a message back saying "I wouldn't work for you anyway, you worthless piece of shit, I'm gonna burn your office down" etc is miniscule...that too. I'm not trying to defend the "expect a reply" position. I just don't think the pizza example is helpful to allow empathy to the guys here. Both sides could do well in understanding the others imo. " Yeah, I'm not sure it's the best. (And anyway, the pizza analogy isn't great from the women's perspective either. It's more like the scene in the first Harry Potter where letters pour through every part of the house... not your point, I know) | |||
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"I gave up a long time ago replying no thanks to the shear volume of messages it was like a part time job and the backlash and negative comments that would follow was also to much or the trying to convince me that actually I did want to fuck them so now I ignore them." Oddly enough, when I said I gave a positive feedback to a no thanks, 2 men said that was the problem, they clearly didn't see the other actual problem of negative feedback or insults. I'm sorry you had to endure that, don't get jaded, not all men are knuckle-dragging neanderthals. | |||
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"Isn't there a limit to how many message people can send on here? Even when you send messages saying "no, thank you" men message again asking why, assuming you are polite & we will continue to messaging. I'd rather someone ignore my message then get messages saying "no thanks" lol " Yes, there is a daily limit, and I hit it when I was new and thought I should reply to everyone. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" Because when a woman says "No thanks" they then get another message asking why, and then when they say why, they get another asking for a chance etc etc etc | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask? Because when a woman says "No thanks" they then get another message asking why, and then when they say why, they get another asking for a chance etc etc etc " I agree that a lot of men act like this and it gives us all a bad name, if I get a no thanks I'll thank them for the reply and wish them well then thats it don't contact again. | |||
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"I never copy/paste a message that I send out. I also understand that women get A LOT of mail on here. But, I do feel that a simple "no thanks" is so much better than reading and not replying to a message. Is it too much to ask?" maybe we need when we all get a message and open it to read it there is another bit to click on where it says,, save,, block,, mark unread,, there is a 4th saying sorry no thanks for people to click just a thought??? | |||
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"For those who craft proper messages and only for those profiles they think they match, the pizza flyer isn't a great analogy. In my mind it's more like a job advert. You like the look of the job, and Yiu think you meet the criteria. You spend a bit of time crafting a covering letter. And nothing. Now, I'd be miffed I'd this was a company. They pay people to say no thanks. I'm cool with it when it's fab because people aren't paid to be here and so it's their time. And as before I was doing it as I wanted something rather tha doing a favour. And presumably the proportion of applicants who send a message back saying "I wouldn't work for you anyway, you worthless piece of shit, I'm gonna burn your office down" etc is miniscule...that too. I'm not trying to defend the "expect a reply" position. I just don't think the pizza example is helpful to allow empathy to the guys here. Both sides could do well in understanding the others imo. " The OP thinks he’s crafting a well versed message but it’s still unsolicited, regardless whether it’s one word or 100. Unless the person getting the message asked for it, it doesn’t require a response whether the OP thinks it should. Every person who sends a message thinks they have a chance - whether it be a profile full of dick pics or whether they have the best profile ever, but if the recipient doesn’t think it’s worth a response they don’t need to. I’ve been there myself as a single and I’d only message profiles I thought I’d match with but that’s only my opinion…I’d accept it and move on if I didn’t get a reply as clearly the receiver of message had a different opinion…it’s harsh but that’s the rules, no reply, not interested. People messaging others need to change their expectations of getting a reply. It’s that simple. K | |||
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"OP, why haven’t you replied to every single person in this thread? This!! ^^^ " Is it too much, to ask?! Jeez so bloody rude | |||
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"Oddly enough, when I said I gave a positive feedback to a no thanks, 2 men said that was the problem, they clearly didn't see the other actual problem of negative feedback or insults." What a load of bollocks. I commented on what you said. That doesn’t mean I couldn’t see what you didn’t say. Somebody says no thanks. You say thanks for the no thanks. Should they then say thank you for the polite thanks to our no thanks. When does it stop? Lots of people here have said how they’re inundated with messages. Do you need to add to that if they aren’t interested in you? Many people have said how they get abusive messages after a polite no thanks. (Not from you). That’s plainly wrong. I’m just saying that perhaps a further message (even if it’s polite, (that is you)) after they’ve said no thanks probably isn’t what they really wanted. Gbat | |||
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"Oddly enough, when I said I gave a positive feedback to a no thanks, 2 men said that was the problem, they clearly didn't see the other actual problem of negative feedback or insults. What a load of bollocks. I commented on what you said. That doesn’t mean I couldn’t see what you didn’t say. Somebody says no thanks. You say thanks for the no thanks. Should they then say thank you for the polite thanks to our no thanks. When does it stop? Lots of people here have said how they’re inundated with messages. Do you need to add to that if they aren’t interested in you? Many people have said how they get abusive messages after a polite no thanks. (Not from you). That’s plainly wrong. I’m just saying that perhaps a further message (even if it’s polite, (that is you)) after they’ve said no thanks probably isn’t what they really wanted. Gbat " "Probably" is the point at which it becomes your opinion and not a fact. My reply to their no thanks is the end of it, not a desperate plea for a second chance or a vicious insult. They took time to reply to me, even when they didn't need to. For me that still deserves respect. | |||
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