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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you can give the site feed back and suggest things like what you have mentioned and they review it and if it gets good results in the review they will add it to the site

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope.

Been this way forever.

Won't change.

Sorry bud.

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"you can give the site feed back and suggest things like what you have mentioned and they review it and if it gets good results in the review they will add it to the site "

You're not wrong. Just realised there's a section for it.

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By *ackbydemandMan
over a year ago

Leicester

On the B side, every other site almost without fail, even Twitter, seems like 99% bots and fakes.

At least when you do get a message, you know it's real.

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By *eyond PurityCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

You’ve been on 3 years

You have 3 pics - last one a cock pic, so the first pic you see. First impression and all that. Other pics aren’t recent.

You state straight away you’re a photographer. Togs and masseurs are looked at dubiously on FAB as every guy is either/or.

Your last veri was 2019.

They might also be reasons for not getting replies…

Your profile wording is good but I’m picking holes as people are quick to blame a site that provides the tools but it’s whether you use the tools available to increase the footfall, is usually where people fail.

This site gives access to clubs, cam rooms, socials, forums too so plenty of opportunities to do something about it.

K

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I'd like to see more added to the search categories. I mean we all add height, body type to our profiles already. I'd like it if those filters could be used too. If we could all window shop by preferences it might help somewhat perhaps? It does feel a bit needle in a haystack trawling through profiles sometimes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms"

Yes quite agree. I'm pretty sick of my sent items being a sea of yellow, every one of which messages I've sent are thought out and perfectly polite and cheeky and funny and relevant ..... Women just don't meet on here. It is by and large a place for (other than genuine swinging couples) some women looking to have their egos stroked with all the messages but have no intention of chatting to anybody. You have to think maybe they are married or attached ..

I certainly think a proper dating section for single profiles not couples would be a good thing, but I don't think it would yield more chat tbh. There are better places to get an actual date / meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dunno what to tell you man, it's the same for 90 percent of single men here. The other 10 percent either being established long time members with all the veris or guys that look like Zac Efron.

I literally saw a profile of a dude who joined about 2 months ago and he's already got about 7 veris from stunners the absolute swine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh also definitely don't spend too long on messages...I know that's what everyone says to do but realistically if they like your pics and you have a cheeky line that's probably gonna get a response

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Oh also definitely don't spend too long on messages...I know that's what everyone says to do but realistically if they like your pics and you have a cheeky line that's probably gonna get a response "

At a maximum I keep it to 2-3 lines. Usually with a question to initiate a conversation... And not dull small talk like "Hey how are you? / Up to much at the weekend? / Nice tits"

But like I said initially, it's not about my messages, my profile etc... It's about making an improvement to this site for those seeking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms

Yes quite agree. I'm pretty sick of my sent items being a sea of yellow, every one of which messages I've sent are thought out and perfectly polite and cheeky and funny and relevant ..... Women just don't meet on here. It is by and large a place for (other than genuine swinging couples) some women looking to have their egos stroked with all the messages but have no intention of chatting to anybody. You have to think maybe they are married or attached ..

I certainly think a proper dating section for single profiles not couples would be a good thing, but I don't think it would yield more chat tbh. There are better places to get an actual date / meet. "

Erm, I have met folk if I hit it off with someone, and to be honest I do my own fair share of messaging vs sitting around with my hands under my bum waiting on someone cropping up

It doesn't change the fact that I still have to scroll through a sea of limited filter based info to try and find someone who A) I'm possibly interested in, and B) is likely to be interested in me too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I'd like to see more added to the search categories. I mean we all add height, body type to our profiles already. I'd like it if those filters could be used too. If we could all window shop by preferences it might help somewhat perhaps? It does feel a bit needle in a haystack trawling through profiles sometimes "

i couldn't agree with you more, ironically i actually suggested this very idea to fab last night which is how I know you can send them suggestions lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I'd like to see more added to the search categories. I mean we all add height, body type to our profiles already. I'd like it if those filters could be used too. If we could all window shop by preferences it might help somewhat perhaps? It does feel a bit needle in a haystack trawling through profiles sometimes

i couldn't agree with you more, ironically i actually suggested this very idea to fab last night which is how I know you can send them suggestions lol"

I also suggested it the other day, but as my post had zero responses I can't see them taking it on board any time soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Firstly don't let it be soul destroying, if I had to guess 1 reply from 17 messages is actually quite good for a single guys profile,

We as single guys in the swinging world just aren't as desirable as couples and single women and then throw in the fact we seriously out number them on here it's never going to be easy especially when the majority of the single guys aren't actually swingers there just chancers who think this is the place to get an easy Fuck, no wonder we aren't trusted, no matter what you do to the site those facts are always going to stay the same.

I learned very quickly that it is a waste of time reading though peoples profile then tailoring a message to suit who ever it is your messaging it is just a massive effort with little reward, the site for me is a tool to interact with people I have met in a club or social event, other than that I don't even attempt to go around messaging random profiles anymore, if they want a single guy they will look themselves all we can do is make our profiles the best that they can be and keep our fingers crossed someone will likes it enough to send a message or wink.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I'd like to see more added to the search categories. I mean we all add height, body type to our profiles already. I'd like it if those filters could be used too. If we could all window shop by preferences it might help somewhat perhaps? It does feel a bit needle in a haystack trawling through profiles sometimes

i couldn't agree with you more, ironically i actually suggested this very idea to fab last night which is how I know you can send them suggestions lol

I also suggested it the other day, but as my post had zero responses I can't see them taking it on board any time soon "

where was it you requested it ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I'd like to see more added to the search categories. I mean we all add height, body type to our profiles already. I'd like it if those filters could be used too. If we could all window shop by preferences it might help somewhat perhaps? It does feel a bit needle in a haystack trawling through profiles sometimes

i couldn't agree with you more, ironically i actually suggested this very idea to fab last night which is how I know you can send them suggestions lol

I also suggested it the other day, but as my post had zero responses I can't see them taking it on board any time soon

where was it you requested it ?"

In the site feedback section - if you green arrow me the post was 'search by category'. I mean change is very slow on the site. We all know this, but it's better to be proactive in at least giving constructive feedback, vs the folk who get out the no?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Personally I'd like to see more added to the search categories. I mean we all add height, body type to our profiles already. I'd like it if those filters could be used too. If we could all window shop by preferences it might help somewhat perhaps? It does feel a bit needle in a haystack trawling through profiles sometimes "

It seems, at best, silly for users to have provided all of this additional data that we could use to finely narrow searches to. It's obvious that we have personal preferences, so it's remiss of Fab to expect users to trawl through potentially huge lists of users, to filter out the unmatched.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I'd like to see more added to the search categories. I mean we all add height, body type to our profiles already. I'd like it if those filters could be used too. If we could all window shop by preferences it might help somewhat perhaps? It does feel a bit needle in a haystack trawling through profiles sometimes

i couldn't agree with you more, ironically i actually suggested this very idea to fab last night which is how I know you can send them suggestions lol

I also suggested it the other day, but as my post had zero responses I can't see them taking it on board any time soon

where was it you requested it ?

In the site feedback section - if you green arrow me the post was 'search by category'. I mean change is very slow on the site. We all know this, but it's better to be proactive in at least giving constructive feedback, vs the folk who get out the no? "

ive sent you a pm cos im not sure what you mean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where are these violin emojis coming from???

Sorry to change the subject

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By *enuine Gent 4 funMan
over a year ago

norwich


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Erm, I have met folk if I hit it off with someone, and to be honest I do my own fair share of messaging vs sitting around with my hands under my bum waiting on someone cropping up

It doesn't change the fact that I still have to scroll through a sea of limited filter based info to try and find someone who A) I'm possibly interested in, and B) is likely to be interested in me too "

Oh yes you start a conversation and after 1 reply asking you to pick the first thing you'd like to see (other than face for the time being)

You don't respond and then block that person for no apparent reason, no explanation and leave them sitting there thinking what did I do ?

I only answered your msg with a choice !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's the way it is -- nothing will change because, while people spend their money here, where's the motivation for the admin to make any changes?

I met a handful of women on an older profile -- this time around I foolishly kidded myself it would be different, but it isn't -- I'm just less inclined to bother now, which may be to do with getting older.

Thing is, I've got a decent amount of self-worth, and it's easier to get laid elsewhere, than it is to destroy my confidence by trying to hook up with randoms who I probably wouldn't notice in ordinary situations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms"

Oh it gets worse belive me lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Erm, I have met folk if I hit it off with someone, and to be honest I do my own fair share of messaging vs sitting around with my hands under my bum waiting on someone cropping up

It doesn't change the fact that I still have to scroll through a sea of limited filter based info to try and find someone who A) I'm possibly interested in, and B) is likely to be interested in me too

Oh yes you start a conversation and after 1 reply asking you to pick the first thing you'd like to see (other than face for the time being)

You don't respond and then block that person for no apparent reason, no explanation and leave them sitting there thinking what did I do ?

I only answered your msg with a choice !!"

Is that directed at me? If it is I probably messaged as part of a forum game, or because I liked something on your profile? Or whatever unknown reason? But as you live 5hrs travel from me it was unlikely for more than that?... Not really sure why you've decided to raise it on here though?

Above poster I'll PM you about the

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thing is, I've got a decent amount of self-worth, and it's easier to get laid elsewhere, than it is to destroy my confidence by trying to hook up with randoms who I probably wouldn't notice in ordinary situations."

This mindset is most likely why you don’t get anywhere..

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms"

Why not just join T1nder?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You’ve been on 3 years

You have 3 pics - last one a cock pic, so the first pic you see. First impression and all that. Other pics aren’t recent.

You state straight away you’re a photographer. Togs and masseurs are looked at dubiously on FAB as every guy is either/or.

Your last veri was 2019.

They might also be reasons for not getting replies…

Your profile wording is good but I’m picking holes as people are quick to blame a site that provides the tools but it’s whether you use the tools available to increase the footfall, is usually where people fail.

This site gives access to clubs, cam rooms, socials, forums too so plenty of opportunities to do something about it.

K"

Yes, I personally don't want to see the cock pic in a profile

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By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago

somerset

the site works fine fo me and our couples profile we are only here to meet 99% of the time its easy to navigate its easy to seek what your looking for ?

i dont see why the site should change because of people not liking getting rejected after all thats what swinging is its a like or reject scene if you cant handle rejection then why stay ... men have it hard full stop and that wont change even if they change the site format there will always be alot more men than women the gap is getting wider and wider every week month year with less n less women and couples joining or leaving

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think every site is just a challenging. I was chatting with my osteopath yesterday. He's given up on here. I mentioned Tinder. He said he tried but got no matches.

I honestly don't know why because he's a good looking guy and he's got a good personality.

It's literally the numbers.

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"the site works fine fo me and our couples profile"

...Probably because you're a woman and have a couple's profile?

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I think every site is just a challenging. I was chatting with my osteopath yesterday. He's given up on here. I mentioned Tinder. He said he tried but got no matches.

I honestly don't know why because he's a good looking guy and he's got a good personality.

It's literally the numbers. "

100% this.

As for those saying "This site will never change so deal with it" - Then I guess you settle for anything in life.

Anything with a customer base has to evolve over time.

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


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Why not just join T1nder?"

Is that a swinging app suited for kinks as well?

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By *picknspanMan
over a year ago

North West Leeds

Try considering it this way

If you went on a night out and 'chatted up' a dozen women would you expect to end up in bed with all of them?

I'm sure you, like most men, have tried your luck whilst out in the pub or club and been 'knocked back' it is just how these things are

Sometimes you get lucky and get a response but nothing comes of it

Sometimes you are more fortunate that your selection and/or timing is better

It is like that here in my opinion

I have had some successes and numerous 'nothings' or 'got close situations'

Don't expect to be fortunate every time and simply persist in a way that you are comfortable and content

Think of this, like many aspects of life, as seeking a parking space...

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By *carletnsparksMan
over a year ago

halifax


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms

Why not just join T1nder?"

If you like the tinder/bumble style of doing things leave and go there to find your dates/shags, there will be someone along to take your place here soon

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By *Spicey4MeMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"You’ve been on 3 years

You have 3 pics - last one a cock pic, so the first pic you see. First impression and all that. Other pics aren’t recent.

You state straight away you’re a photographer. Togs and masseurs are looked at dubiously on FAB as every guy is either/or.

Your last veri was 2019.

They might also be reasons for not getting replies…

Your profile wording is good but I’m picking holes as people are quick to blame a site that provides the tools but it’s whether you use the tools available to increase the footfall, is usually where people fail.

This site gives access to clubs, cam rooms, socials, forums too so plenty of opportunities to do something about it.

K"

Excellent, thanks for taking the time and energy to provide positive feedback.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"It's the way it is -- nothing will change because, while people spend their money here, where's the motivation for the admin to make any changes?

I met a handful of women on an older profile -- this time around I foolishly kidded myself it would be different, but it isn't -- I'm just less inclined to bother now, which may be to do with getting older.

Thing is, I've got a decent amount of self-worth, and it's easier to get laid elsewhere, than it is to destroy my confidence by trying to hook up with randoms who I probably wouldn't notice in ordinary situations.

"

That last paragraph seems lacking in respect both for women on here and your self...

Though I get it's a recurring theme on here, men bitter that women they think should be thankful for the attention aren't interested. I personally suspect it's often because women pick up on that entitlement

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By *harAndBryCouple
over a year ago

Peterborough / Stamford

Ignore "views". The majority of single women and couples view in stealth mode (to stop the "I see you looked at my profile, wanna fuck?" messages)

Then look at numbers. We get a minimum of ten offers each day. That's 300 a month. It's often more if we put up a pic or video.

We meet no more than once each week, and half the time it's people we know. So we need, maybe two new guys each month.

Under 1% of the offers we get are ever going to lead anywhere.

(Bry)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the month we have been on here we have lost count of the pictures of cocks on profiles and in messages we have been sent.

99% of cocks look the same. We never reply to 100% of cock pics.

We want to speak to people but even then it depends on the message. 90% of messages are the same.

Be yourself, be different and above all be honest.. you will find what you want.

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By *ontVellaCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

Unfortunately for the good single guys on here there are many that just want a quick lay or don’t read a profile. We get so many “meet tonight… watch me eat your wife/ take her ass etc etc” that on a busy day the good guy messages get lost in them.

I don’t know your approach in messages but I’d add something that shows you have read the profile and it matches with your hopes for a social/ meet.

Also in your profile it says no reply without a face pic, that would be a no from us. Discretion is important and although we understand those who don’t want to “waste” time chatting to someone they might not be attracted to we need to know we’re talking to a respectable, discreet person with emotional intelligence before we would consider sharing our faces.

A “search by category” feature would be great though!

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms"

Fab is essentially populated by two categories of swinger; people who use Fab to meet people, and people who use clubs to meet people.

I live in an area devoid of clubs (it’s at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction to reach the nearest club), so people locally put more effort in to using Fab.

You (OP) live in Birmingham, with two clubs on your doorstep, and your only veri is from a club meet. Why get frustrated trying to meet people through Fab, when visiting a club clearly worked for you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having previously joined this site with an ex, all be it for a very short time, after 10 minutes we had over 100 messages.

No matter how well though out the messages will be you cannot read them all.

In all likelyhood the chance of sending a message to a woman or an couple and it actually getting read is very slim.

Then the chance they will be looking to meet someone is going to reduce that more.

Finally thwy chance they will be interested in you will be smaller (unless your alan ritchson or have a 8in plus cock going by half the status updates i see).

Maybe the best change this site could make would be stopping single males making first contact at all. This would stop new women and couples from getting innudated wuth messages, they would be need to seek out who they are interested in and initiate contact.

This would then mean the messages they get back would hopefully be more meaningful and not just "wanna fuck?" Type messages

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Ignore "views". The majority of single women and couples view in stealth mode (to stop the "I see you looked at my profile, wanna fuck?" messages)

Then look at numbers. We get a minimum of ten offers each day. That's 300 a month. It's often more if we put up a pic or video.

We meet no more than once each week, and half the time it's people we know. So we need, maybe two new guys each month.

Under 1% of the offers we get are ever going to lead anywhere.

(Bry)"

I mean yeah, as I said in my original post...

"Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think every site is just a challenging. I was chatting with my osteopath yesterday. He's given up on here. I mentioned Tinder. He said he tried but got no matches.

I honestly don't know why because he's a good looking guy and he's got a good personality.

It's literally the numbers.

100% this.

As for those saying "This site will never change so deal with it" - Then I guess you settle for anything in life.

Anything with a customer base has to evolve over time."

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Tbh the site has been running for over 10 years and works absolutely fine. I personally don’t see why it should change or how it really can change. Because it doesn’t work for some or because they keep getting rejected…

Even if it has all the features, bells & whistles you want it to. It’s not going to change the fact someone either likes you or not. It’s the brutal truth. If you like how the other sites work then why not stick to those then. FAB is unique it’s not like the other sites, so adapt and learn how it works and you will have a better experience. Because it works for a lot of people. The key to it all is effort - work on your profile and get out there to clubs and socials. It’s not an instant thing swinging…

*You have to learn to deal with rejection. That is an actually a massive part of swinging. If being told no is “soul destroying” - online then I’d worry what that would do to you in person at a club or a private meet.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

There's no point comparing a swingers site (call it a fuck site if you wish, makes no difference) to dating apps.

And I've seen plenty of threads from single guys moaning about a lack of 'success' on them too, complaining that it's all about visuals and that they don't get a chance to show their personality. So no different from here then.

Swingers are looking for different interactions. Some want long term, regular hook ups. Some want quick.one offs. There's no one size fits all and some are even looking for dates and relationships.

The site hasn't changed much since I first arrived as a single guy in 2008. It took time but like many others I learnt to use the tools, how to portray myself, how to interact and had hundreds of meets. I also went to clubs and socials - something many single guys don't want to do for some reason.

Clubs are the one place you will guarantee to fins swingers, see real people and be able to chat F2F so your 'messages' won't be ignored or deleted.

There's no guarantee you'll get sex but the odds are significantly better.

The site works for those who use it effectively.

A

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

You (OP) live in Birmingham, with two clubs on your doorstep, and your only veri is from a club meet. Why get frustrated trying to meet people through Fab, when visiting a club clearly worked for you? "

Work/life balance most of all and also visiting clubs at single male rates gets expensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

You (OP) live in Birmingham, with two clubs on your doorstep, and your only veri is from a club meet. Why get frustrated trying to meet people through Fab, when visiting a club clearly worked for you?

Work/life balance most of all and also visiting clubs at single male rates gets expensive."

These woe is me threads from single blokes are getting a bit monotonous now.

Just come to terms with the numerical make up of the site and you see you are just one in a thousand!

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By *ittlekinks38Woman
over a year ago

outside belfast x

Ita a very hard place to be for single men as its genuinely a swinging app and most couple's want females to join them...

Theres plenty of women like myself who wish to join couple's or up group fun if it comes up...

You say you've been on here 3 years and one verification which is from the beginning which is off putting to some, if you've been on here sometime like myself I've been too lots of socials thats where I got my verifications from so I can only suggest you do that...

It is like a needle in a haystack to meet someone and that both of yous click as such!

It's an ongoing problem for all single guys so maybe not the best app for the majority of them...

My best advice is possible go seek whatever your looking elsewhere I've heard you've more change there than here!

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

You (OP) live in Birmingham, with two clubs on your doorstep, and your only veri is from a club meet. Why get frustrated trying to meet people through Fab, when visiting a club clearly worked for you?

Work/life balance most of all and also visiting clubs at single male rates gets expensive.

These woe is me threads from single blokes are getting a bit monotonous now.

Just come to terms with the numerical make up of the site and you see you are just one in a thousand!"

Nice photos

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms

Fab is essentially populated by two categories of swinger; people who use Fab to meet people, and people who use clubs to meet people.

I live in an area devoid of clubs (it’s at least 1 1/2 hours drive in any direction to reach the nearest club), so people locally put more effort in to using Fab.

You (OP) live in Birmingham, with two clubs on your doorstep, and your only veri is from a club meet. Why get frustrated trying to meet people through Fab, when visiting a club clearly worked for you? "

There is a third category. Married blokes using it as a means of masturbation!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

You (OP) live in Birmingham, with two clubs on your doorstep, and your only veri is from a club meet. Why get frustrated trying to meet people through Fab, when visiting a club clearly worked for you?

Work/life balance most of all and also visiting clubs at single male rates gets expensive.

These woe is me threads from single blokes are getting a bit monotonous now.

Just come to terms with the numerical make up of the site and you see you are just one in a thousand!

Nice photos"

They are there for those I choose to show. That said I am not the one whining!

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

You say you've been on here 3 years and one verification which is from the beginning which is off putting to some, "

I joined and after about a year I was in a relationship for 2 years and she wasn't into this lifestyle. When we broke up, I rejoined after a few months.

Aside from that, I appreciate the positive feedback: )

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

You (OP) live in Birmingham, with two clubs on your doorstep, and your only veri is from a club meet. Why get frustrated trying to meet people through Fab, when visiting a club clearly worked for you?

Work/life balance most of all and also visiting clubs at single male rates gets expensive.

These woe is me threads from single blokes are getting a bit monotonous now.

Just come to terms with the numerical make up of the site and you see you are just one in a thousand!

Nice photos

They are there for those I choose to show. That said I am not the one whining!"

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"

You (OP) live in Birmingham, with two clubs on your doorstep, and your only veri is from a club meet. Why get frustrated trying to meet people through Fab, when visiting a club clearly worked for you?

Work/life balance most of all and also visiting clubs at single male rates gets expensive."

I’ve visited several clubs as a single male, and appreciate the cost of being the ‘most unwanted demographic in a swinger club’, but clubs are all about cliques, so once your face is known, I’m sure you’ll be fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try being a woman, umpteen messages a day ranging from "hi", "fancy a shag", "can i get you pregnant", "what u wearing"

Is it any wonder we hardly reply or even open a message

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By *orthyorkypairCouple
over a year ago

North Yorkshire


"

You (OP) live in Birmingham, with two clubs on your doorstep, and your only veri is from a club meet. Why get frustrated trying to meet people through Fab, when visiting a club clearly worked for you?

Work/life balance most of all and also visiting clubs at single male rates gets expensive.

These woe is me threads from single blokes are getting a bit monotonous now.

Just come to terms with the numerical make up of the site and you see you are just one in a thousand!"

most sensible post so far!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thing is, I've got a decent amount of self-worth, and it's easier to get laid elsewhere, than it is to destroy my confidence by trying to hook up with randoms who I probably wouldn't notice in ordinary situations.

This mindset is most likely why you don’t get anywhere.."

Definitely this, also the fact that the profile and himself are telling a different story.

If something seems dodgy about someone I straight away block without a second thought. Lies are a massive red flag for me

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By *orthyorkypairCouple
over a year ago

North Yorkshire


"Try being a woman, umpteen messages a day ranging from "hi", "fancy a shag", "can i get you pregnant", "what u wearing"

Is it any wonder we hardly reply or even open a message "

try being over 60 and getting "can i get you pregnant messages!!!!! lol

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms"

Social media is not a dating site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Try being a woman, umpteen messages a day ranging from "hi", "fancy a shag", "can i get you pregnant", "what u wearing"

Is it any wonder we hardly reply or even open a message

try being over 60 and getting "can i get you pregnant messages!!!!! lol "

No?

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Ita a very hard place to be for single men as its genuinely a swinging app and most couple's want females to join them...

Theres plenty of women like myself who wish to join couple's or up group fun if it comes up...

You say you've been on here 3 years and one verification which is from the beginning which is off putting to some, if you've been on here sometime like myself I've been too lots of socials thats where I got my verifications from so I can only suggest you do that...

It is like a needle in a haystack to meet someone and that both of yous click as such!

It's an ongoing problem for all single guys so maybe not the best app for the majority of them...

My best advice is possible go seek whatever your looking elsewhere I've heard you've more change there than here! "

Plenty of couples want single males. We do.

But we're fussy. We don't 'need' to add others to our sex life, its an occasional occurrence to add something different rather than something that happens week in week out.

What many single males don't recognise is that people don't swing every day, every week or even every month. The fact we have a profile seems to indicate to some that we're always looking, despite it being made clear in our profile that we're not.

Dating sites have a different mindset - if you're on rhere you're looking. Swinging sites don't work that way.

We don't get hundreds of messages. We currently have 6 unanswered and probably have had about 50 in the last month, so its nor a case of messages getting lost or people not being able to get our attention - its just that there's no interest or attraction so we don't reply. We're not obliged to and anyone who expects a reply from anyone is setting themselves up for disappointment.

Single males can and do succeed and do very well on here. But it takes patience, social skills, good profile creation, interesting pictures that draw the eye and above all - attention to detail. If your profile is dull you'll never get anywhere. Expecting people to message you to find out more, when there are enough detailed profiles out there to save extra hassle is pointless. The old adage of 'effort in equals results out is true', but it still guarantees nothing.

If you can't attract interest in real life and engage with women and couples it'll be ten times harder online. That's the cold hard truth.

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By *harAndBryCouple
over a year ago

Peterborough / Stamford


"‘most unwanted demographic in a swinger club’"

Not always true. We don't do to club nights where they don't allow single guys as it's single guys that we're specifically looking for when we go to clubs.

(Bry)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Soul Destroying? It sounds like you’re placing way too much importance on this site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah ultimately there's thousands of people on this site. The ones near you might not be keen which is obviously unfortunate. But there will be people here who are just what you're looking for.

I live in London but most of my best chats are outside of London. Not sure why, but maybe there's shitloads of London single men messaging the girls and couples here. Or it's my face. Probably my face

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"‘most unwanted demographic in a swinger club’

Not always true. We don't do to club nights where they don't allow single guys as it's single guys that we're specifically looking for when we go to clubs.

(Bry)"

I can only speak from my experiences, and only visited clubs on nights when single guys were 'allowed' in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too many guys (not all) on here who don't have a real clue about swinging and see it as a golden ticket to sex. It really doesn't work like that.

The only real way to get swinger experiences is to go to place in real life where swingers hang out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Too many guys (not all) on here who don't have a real clue about swinging and see it as a golden ticket to sex. It really doesn't work like that.

The only real way to get swinger experiences is to go to place in real life where swingers hang out."

100% agree with this, no matter how match effort I put into my profile it will never be a better reflection of myself then meeting someone in person so a club or social event is the way forward for me.

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By *rmrs95Couple
over a year ago

Chester


"Too many guys (not all) on here who don't have a real clue about swinging and see it as a golden ticket to sex. It really doesn't work like that.

The only real way to get swinger experiences is to go to place in real life where swingers hang out."

Spot on xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Too many guys (not all) on here who don't have a real clue about swinging and see it as a golden ticket to sex. It really doesn't work like that.

The only real way to get swinger experiences is to go to place in real life where swingers hang out."

Absolutely 100% true

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By *enuine Gent 4 funMan
over a year ago

norwich


"

Erm, I have met folk if I hit it off with someone, and to be honest I do my own fair share of messaging vs sitting around with my hands under my bum waiting on someone cropping up

It doesn't change the fact that I still have to scroll through a sea of limited filter based info to try and find someone who A) I'm possibly interested in, and B) is likely to be interested in me too

Oh yes you start a conversation and after 1 reply asking you to pick the first thing you'd like to see (other than face for the time being)

You don't respond and then block that person for no apparent reason, no explanation and leave them sitting there thinking what did I do ?

I only answered your msg with a choice !!

Is that directed at me? If it is I probably messaged as part of a forum game, or because I liked something on your profile? Or whatever unknown reason? But as you live 5hrs travel from me it was unlikely for more than that?... Not really sure why you've decided to raise it on here though?

Above poster I'll PM you about the "

Yes its aimed at you, I cant bring it up any other way as you blocked me.

You asked if I'd like to chat from the condom forum chat, you asked for pics, I asked which ones.....blocked, no reason or anything, do you know how frustrating that is, i/we were only going to chat !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Erm, I have met folk if I hit it off with someone, and to be honest I do my own fair share of messaging vs sitting around with my hands under my bum waiting on someone cropping up

It doesn't change the fact that I still have to scroll through a sea of limited filter based info to try and find someone who A) I'm possibly interested in, and B) is likely to be interested in me too

Oh yes you start a conversation and after 1 reply asking you to pick the first thing you'd like to see (other than face for the time being)

You don't respond and then block that person for no apparent reason, no explanation and leave them sitting there thinking what did I do ?

I only answered your msg with a choice !!

Is that directed at me? If it is I probably messaged as part of a forum game, or because I liked something on your profile? Or whatever unknown reason? But as you live 5hrs travel from me it was unlikely for more than that?... Not really sure why you've decided to raise it on here though?

Above poster I'll PM you about the

Yes its aimed at you, I cant bring it up any other way as you blocked me.

You asked if I'd like to chat from the condom forum chat, you asked for pics, I asked which ones.....blocked, no reason or anything, do you know how frustrating that is, i/we were only going to chat !!"

Yea it might be a little frustrating if you got your hopes up, but the end of the day we can all change are minds if we want to, maby she see something on your profile that put her off who knows, she doesn't need to give an explanation if she doesn't want to it is what it is and holding a grudge trying to call her out on other threads is going to do nothing but make you look like another winner, just get over it and move on, your not doing yourself any favours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That last paragraph seems lacking in respect both for women on here and your self..."

I would say the former is correct, I do not respect a significant number of the women I encounter on this website -- I have observed racism, sexism, biphobia, transphobia, extreme obesity, poor self-care, smoking, alcoholism, cheating, entitlement and so on.

That's not me being entitled, it just means I say it how it is -- as such, I'm personally not interested.

Unfortunately, the nature of the beast, is that many men target ALL women, regardless of how they perceive them.

As a result, many women get dishonest messages telling them how beautiful they are etc.

That leads to many women with a warped perspective on their value -- it's like repeatedly telling lemonade that it's really champagne.

Men are guilty of causing this, so it's not anti-woman, it's a call to men to get a grip and to realise their own worth, to be selective, rather than willing to shag everything.

Personally speaking, therefore, I would not destroy my self-confidence taking part in this charade.

And yes, you could say it's disrespectful of me -- but it's merely an observation; I still believe people are deserving of good treatment.

Good treatment also includes honesty and respecting space.

When men lie to a woman to tell her she's better than they really think she is -- that is immoral, it's endemic, and it spoils the site for everyone genuine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That last paragraph seems lacking in respect both for women on here and your self...

I would say the former is correct, I do not respect a significant number of the women I encounter on this website -- I have observed racism, sexism, biphobia, transphobia, extreme obesity, poor self-care, smoking, alcoholism, cheating, entitlement and so on.

That's not me being entitled, it just means I say it how it is -- as such, I'm personally not interested.

Unfortunately, the nature of the beast, is that many men target ALL women, regardless of how they perceive them.

As a result, many women get dishonest messages telling them how beautiful they are etc.

That leads to many women with a warped perspective on their value -- it's like repeatedly telling lemonade that it's really champagne.

Men are guilty of causing this, so it's not anti-woman, it's a call to men to get a grip and to realise their own worth, to be selective, rather than willing to shag everything.

Personally speaking, therefore, I would not destroy my self-confidence taking part in this charade.

And yes, you could say it's disrespectful of me -- but it's merely an observation; I still believe people are deserving of good treatment.

Good treatment also includes honesty and respecting space.

When men lie to a woman to tell her she's better than they really think she is -- that is immoral, it's endemic, and it spoils the site for everyone genuine.

"

Well...someone woke up to shit in his cornflakes...

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms"

Clubs are the place to be these days

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By *enuine Gent 4 funMan
over a year ago

norwich


"

Erm, I have met folk if I hit it off with someone, and to be honest I do my own fair share of messaging vs sitting around with my hands under my bum waiting on someone cropping up

It doesn't change the fact that I still have to scroll through a sea of limited filter based info to try and find someone who A) I'm possibly interested in, and B) is likely to be interested in me too

Oh yes you start a conversation and after 1 reply asking you to pick the first thing you'd like to see (other than face for the time being)

You don't respond and then block that person for no apparent reason, no explanation and leave them sitting there thinking what did I do ?

I only answered your msg with a choice !!

Is that directed at me? If it is I probably messaged as part of a forum game, or because I liked something on your profile? Or whatever unknown reason? But as you live 5hrs travel from me it was unlikely for more than that?... Not really sure why you've decided to raise it on here though?

Above poster I'll PM you about the

Yes its aimed at you, I cant bring it up any other way as you blocked me.

You asked if I'd like to chat from the condom forum chat, you asked for pics, I asked which ones.....blocked, no reason or anything, do you know how frustrating that is, i/we were only going to chat !!

Yea it might be a little frustrating if you got your hopes up, but the end of the day we can all change are minds if we want to, maby she see something on your profile that put her off who knows, she doesn't need to give an explanation if she doesn't want to it is what it is and holding a grudge trying to call her out on other threads is going to do nothing but make you look like another winner, just get over it and move on, your not doing yourself any favours. "

Let's get this straight, I just wondered why I got blocked !

She started the conversation I replied she replied I replied.. blocked

All msgs were polite and current and I wasn't expecting any more than to talk to someone and maybe see and send some pics !

A meet never really crossed my mind as it appeared she was reasonably far away.

How hard would it have been to just reply and say sorry but I realised this or that so talking is not worth it, ok fair enough but to block for no apparent reason just irritated me especially seeing as this was going to be my first conversation on here !!

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms"

Have you explored any other sites? May be better. BTW.. One reply out of 17 isn't bad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Erm, I have met folk if I hit it off with someone, and to be honest I do my own fair share of messaging vs sitting around with my hands under my bum waiting on someone cropping up

It doesn't change the fact that I still have to scroll through a sea of limited filter based info to try and find someone who A) I'm possibly interested in, and B) is likely to be interested in me too

Oh yes you start a conversation and after 1 reply asking you to pick the first thing you'd like to see (other than face for the time being)

You don't respond and then block that person for no apparent reason, no explanation and leave them sitting there thinking what did I do ?

I only answered your msg with a choice !!

Is that directed at me? If it is I probably messaged as part of a forum game, or because I liked something on your profile? Or whatever unknown reason? But as you live 5hrs travel from me it was unlikely for more than that?... Not really sure why you've decided to raise it on here though?

Above poster I'll PM you about the

Yes its aimed at you, I cant bring it up any other way as you blocked me.

You asked if I'd like to chat from the condom forum chat, you asked for pics, I asked which ones.....blocked, no reason or anything, do you know how frustrating that is, i/we were only going to chat !!

Yea it might be a little frustrating if you got your hopes up, but the end of the day we can all change are minds if we want to, maby she see something on your profile that put her off who knows, she doesn't need to give an explanation if she doesn't want to it is what it is and holding a grudge trying to call her out on other threads is going to do nothing but make you look like another winner, just get over it and move on, your not doing yourself any favours.

Let's get this straight, I just wondered why I got blocked !

She started the conversation I replied she replied I replied.. blocked

All msgs were polite and current and I wasn't expecting any more than to talk to someone and maybe see and send some pics !

A meet never really crossed my mind as it appeared she was reasonably far away.

How hard would it have been to just reply and say sorry but I realised this or that so talking is not worth it, ok fair enough but to block for no apparent reason just irritated me especially seeing as this was going to be my first conversation on here !!"

She didn't want to talk anymore. She has a busy life. Just swallow the pain you're feeling and move on. I think every dude on here has probably encountered it, probably more than once. You can think IFS and buts all you like but it's just the way it goes. Doesn't mean they are entitled or anything. They just have other things they want to focus on.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"

Erm, I have met folk if I hit it off with someone, and to be honest I do my own fair share of messaging vs sitting around with my hands under my bum waiting on someone cropping up

It doesn't change the fact that I still have to scroll through a sea of limited filter based info to try and find someone who A) I'm possibly interested in, and B) is likely to be interested in me too

Oh yes you start a conversation and after 1 reply asking you to pick the first thing you'd like to see (other than face for the time being)

You don't respond and then block that person for no apparent reason, no explanation and leave them sitting there thinking what did I do ?

I only answered your msg with a choice !!

Is that directed at me? If it is I probably messaged as part of a forum game, or because I liked something on your profile? Or whatever unknown reason? But as you live 5hrs travel from me it was unlikely for more than that?... Not really sure why you've decided to raise it on here though?

Above poster I'll PM you about the

Yes its aimed at you, I cant bring it up any other way as you blocked me.

You asked if I'd like to chat from the condom forum chat, you asked for pics, I asked which ones.....blocked, no reason or anything, do you know how frustrating that is, i/we were only going to chat !!

Yea it might be a little frustrating if you got your hopes up, but the end of the day we can all change are minds if we want to, maby she see something on your profile that put her off who knows, she doesn't need to give an explanation if she doesn't want to it is what it is and holding a grudge trying to call her out on other threads is going to do nothing but make you look like another winner, just get over it and move on, your not doing yourself any favours.

Let's get this straight, I just wondered why I got blocked !

She started the conversation I replied she replied I replied.. blocked

All msgs were polite and current and I wasn't expecting any more than to talk to someone and maybe see and send some pics !

A meet never really crossed my mind as it appeared she was reasonably far away.

How hard would it have been to just reply and say sorry but I realised this or that so talking is not worth it, ok fair enough but to block for no apparent reason just irritated me especially seeing as this was going to be my first conversation on here !!"

You're confusing normal life, reasonable behaviour with fab which... Is a different set of social norms.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Erm, I have met folk if I hit it off with someone, and to be honest I do my own fair share of messaging vs sitting around with my hands under my bum waiting on someone cropping up

It doesn't change the fact that I still have to scroll through a sea of limited filter based info to try and find someone who A) I'm possibly interested in, and B) is likely to be interested in me too

Oh yes you start a conversation and after 1 reply asking you to pick the first thing you'd like to see (other than face for the time being)

You don't respond and then block that person for no apparent reason, no explanation and leave them sitting there thinking what did I do ?

I only answered your msg with a choice !!

Is that directed at me? If it is I probably messaged as part of a forum game, or because I liked something on your profile? Or whatever unknown reason? But as you live 5hrs travel from me it was unlikely for more than that?... Not really sure why you've decided to raise it on here though?

Above poster I'll PM you about the

Yes its aimed at you, I cant bring it up any other way as you blocked me.

You asked if I'd like to chat from the condom forum chat, you asked for pics, I asked which ones.....blocked, no reason or anything, do you know how frustrating that is, i/we were only going to chat !!

Yea it might be a little frustrating if you got your hopes up, but the end of the day we can all change are minds if we want to, maby she see something on your profile that put her off who knows, she doesn't need to give an explanation if she doesn't want to it is what it is and holding a grudge trying to call her out on other threads is going to do nothing but make you look like another winner, just get over it and move on, your not doing yourself any favours.

Let's get this straight, I just wondered why I got blocked !

She started the conversation I replied she replied I replied.. blocked

All msgs were polite and current and I wasn't expecting any more than to talk to someone and maybe see and send some pics !

A meet never really crossed my mind as it appeared she was reasonably far away.

How hard would it have been to just reply and say sorry but I realised this or that so talking is not worth it, ok fair enough but to block for no apparent reason just irritated me especially seeing as this was going to be my first conversation on here !!"

I probably come across to harsh when I replied earlier, I was in a rush sorry, the fact it would have been your first conversation on here would of made it a little harder on you that's to be expected, she probably just felt it easy to block and forget then it would have been to give an explanation alot of women on here get nothing but abuse when they try to be polite and say sorry not interested so it's possible she just didn't want to open the door to that, don't take it personally though,

meeting in person at a club or social event is a far better way to meet people then use Fab as a way to keep in contact with those people that have seen the real you then you, you will then have a far better experience on here and once you have a good few verifications the occasional message will come your way from others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We’ve come to the conclusion that the best place to meet is clubs, we’ve singles profiles do know how hard it is on here even getting a reply,

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"the site works fine fo me and our couples profile we are only here to meet 99% of the time its easy to navigate its easy to seek what your looking for ?

i dont see why the site should change because of people not liking getting rejected after all thats what swinging is its a like or reject scene if you cant handle rejection then why stay ... men have it hard full stop and that wont change even if they change the site format there will always be alot more men than women the gap is getting wider and wider every week month year with less n less women and couples joining or leaving"

I agree with this. I personally think the site works well but you have to use it for what it is and not try to use it as you would other sites.

My observation would be that if your current approach isn’t working then you need to change it and keep iterating until you find something that works for you.

As far as I can tell most people (ie men) do the same thing again and again and again and then wonder why nothing changes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think every site is just a challenging. I was chatting with my osteopath yesterday. He's given up on here. I mentioned Tinder. He said he tried but got no matches.

I honestly don't know why because he's a good looking guy and he's got a good personality.

It's literally the numbers.

100% this.

As for those saying "This site will never change so deal with it" - Then I guess you settle for anything in life.

Anything with a customer base has to evolve over time.

———

Tbh the site has been running for over 10 years and works absolutely fine. I personally don’t see why it should change or how it really can change. Because it doesn’t work for some or because they keep getting rejected…

Even if it has all the features, bells & whistles you want it to. It’s not going to change the fact someone either likes you or not. It’s the brutal truth. If you like how the other sites work then why not stick to those then. FAB is unique it’s not like the other sites, so adapt and learn how it works and you will have a better experience. Because it works for a lot of people. The key to it all is effort - work on your profile and get out there to clubs and socials. It’s not an instant thing swinging…

*You have to learn to deal with rejection. That is an actually a massive part of swinging. If being told no is “soul destroying” - online then I’d worry what that would do to you in person at a club or a private meet.

"

This

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms"

I genuinely can't see how this improves things for people other than single men?

To be honest, it sounds like changevtgevsitevti a hook up site because that's how a lot of men use it, or at least attempt to use it? And ignores that swinging is about a bit more than swiping on a profile picture

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"

Clubs are the place to be these days "

The only caveat with clubs being; do your research first, as not all clubs are friendly and welcoming towards single guys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Clubs are the place to be these days

The only caveat with clubs being; do your research first, as not all clubs are friendly and welcoming towards single guys "

The club I go to is, it allows single guys in both nights it's open and during the day event that it holds just as long as you pre book so they can limit the numbers if needed, it's a really sociable club and as long as you have enough confidence to say a few hellos it doesn't take long before you speak up conversations with people

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By *humper.Man
over a year ago

northumberland/scotland


"Dunno what to tell you man, it's the same for 90 percent of single men here. The other 10 percent either being established long time members with all the veris or guys that look like Zac Efron.

I literally saw a profile of a dude who joined about 2 months ago and he's already got about 7 veris from stunners the absolute swine"

Sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dunno what to tell you man, it's the same for 90 percent of single men here. The other 10 percent either being established long time members with all the veris or guys that look like Zac Efron.

I literally saw a profile of a dude who joined about 2 months ago and he's already got about 7 veris from stunners the absolute swine

Sorry "

Not you! But damn, wanna team up for some MMFs? Haha!

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms

I genuinely can't see how this improves things for people other than single men?

To be honest, it sounds like changevtgevsitevti a hook up site because that's how a lot of men use it, or at least attempt to use it? And ignores that swinging is about a bit more than swiping on a profile picture "

As a couple, you wouldn't want to swipe left/right on couples/singles that show up and match your requirements - If you wanted to seek who's out there?

Also what's changevtgevsitevti???

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms

I genuinely can't see how this improves things for people other than single men?

To be honest, it sounds like changevtgevsitevti a hook up site because that's how a lot of men use it, or at least attempt to use it? And ignores that swinging is about a bit more than swiping on a profile picture

As a couple, you wouldn't want to swipe left/right on couples/singles that show up and match your requirements - If you wanted to seek who's out there?

Also what's changevtgevsitevti???"

Its my useless fat fingers and very poor eyesight "change the site to"

And when I was on here as a couple no, definitely not. What is written on a profile is at least as important as pictures.

You are missing the point about swinging. It's not a hook up site. You are also missing the point that single blokes wanting to get laid may be the majority of profiles but they aren't the key demographic

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Shift your expectations and don't expect it to be easy to meet people who want to have sex with you.

No alterations to the site will make it easier for you to get people to agree to meet you

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By *anddXXXCouple
over a year ago

London

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

Its my useless fat fingers and very poor eyesight "change the site to"

And when I was on here as a couple no, definitely not. What is written on a profile is at least as important as pictures.

You are missing the point about swinging. It's not a hook up site. You are also missing the point that single blokes wanting to get laid may be the majority of profiles but they aren't the key demographic "

Trust me - I don't see this as a hook-up site.

My intention is to make connections (and as mentioned earlier, I can't visit clubs regularly due to work/life balance).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"43 views

17 messages sent (with face pics and quick intro message)

5 opened

1 reply

Overall - Soul destroying experience

Now I know couples and single F's are inundated and that's understandable.

But surely FS can come up with an alternative way to match with people here?

A Tinder/Bumble style swipe system that you can switch on if you are "seeking".

- You only swipe right on the profiles that tick the boxes for you.

- Any rejections, well you don't really know about them. And it's an easier experience than having to write intro messages and see they've been opened/un-opened.

Just trying to think of a better experience on here for everyone, not just the single Ms

I genuinely can't see how this improves things for people other than single men?

To be honest, it sounds like changevtgevsitevti a hook up site because that's how a lot of men use it, or at least attempt to use it? And ignores that swinging is about a bit more than swiping on a profile picture

As a couple, you wouldn't want to swipe left/right on couples/singles that show up and match your requirements - If you wanted to seek who's out there?

Also what's changevtgevsitevti???"

Personally I couldn’t think of anything worse on here than swiping along left and right.

I would think there would be more complaints on here than you can imagine.

I think that’s the main problem with apps that you swipe on is you just become disposable. In the sense a swipe and you’re gone. I can only speak for myself, but I’m pretty sure I’d have never met half the people that I have if it were through swiping. I’ve not matched the preferences and if meeting was through swiping then we would have never crossed paths.

People look and search on here through various methods. Through the forum, maybe they’ve seen a new photo you’ve uploaded, it could have been on a category they were searching for… loads of ways people search. Having requirements that are to be matched through swiping is very black and white and from my experience swinging isn’t like that…

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By *anddXXXCouple
over a year ago

London


"

You (OP) live in Birmingham, with two clubs on your doorstep, and your only veri is from a club meet. Why get frustrated trying to meet people through Fab, when visiting a club clearly worked for you?

Work/life balance most of all and also visiting clubs at single male rates gets expensive.

These woe is me threads from single blokes are getting a bit monotonous now.

Just come to terms with the numerical make up of the site and you see you are just one in a thousand!

Nice photos"

Maybe it's because you come across as a smarmy person. The answer is normally closer than you think, the "nice photos" comment says it all, to us.

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

No alterations to the site will make it easier for you to get people to agree to meet you "

I disagree, but that's your opinion

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"

Erm, I have met folk if I hit it off with someone, and to be honest I do my own fair share of messaging vs sitting around with my hands under my bum waiting on someone cropping up

It doesn't change the fact that I still have to scroll through a sea of limited filter based info to try and find someone who A) I'm possibly interested in, and B) is likely to be interested in me too

Oh yes you start a conversation and after 1 reply asking you to pick the first thing you'd like to see (other than face for the time being)

You don't respond and then block that person for no apparent reason, no explanation and leave them sitting there thinking what did I do ?

I only answered your msg with a choice !!"

Expectations -

Most people are not mutually compatible with most other people. So initially positive beginnings will lead to most of them dried up and probably blocks.

Single men, especially, need to have realistic expectations here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder what this site costs to run. Because whilst it hosts large amounts of images, they’re poor quality. And the site is like one from the 90s. Given the amount of people who seem to be silver or gold members (seems to be the majority), I’m surprised the site is so incredibly basic. It’s essentially a simple database.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Its my useless fat fingers and very poor eyesight "change the site to"

And when I was on here as a couple no, definitely not. What is written on a profile is at least as important as pictures.

You are missing the point about swinging. It's not a hook up site. You are also missing the point that single blokes wanting to get laid may be the majority of profiles but they aren't the key demographic

Trust me - I don't see this as a hook-up site.

My intention is to make connections (and as mentioned earlier, I can't visit clubs regularly due to work/life balance).

"

Well then you’ve got to make your profile the best it can be then - it’s the shop window for all to see

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"

Its my useless fat fingers and very poor eyesight "change the site to"

And when I was on here as a couple no, definitely not. What is written on a profile is at least as important as pictures.

You are missing the point about swinging. It's not a hook up site. You are also missing the point that single blokes wanting to get laid may be the majority of profiles but they aren't the key demographic

Trust me - I don't see this as a hook-up site.

My intention is to make connections (and as mentioned earlier, I can't visit clubs regularly due to work/life balance).

"

So why do you 1. Want it to be adapted to function like one? And 2. want people to swipe based on your aesthetic appeal?

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

You (OP) live in Birmingham, with two clubs on your doorstep, and your only veri is from a club meet. Why get frustrated trying to meet people through Fab, when visiting a club clearly worked for you?

Work/life balance most of all and also visiting clubs at single male rates gets expensive.

These woe is me threads from single blokes are getting a bit monotonous now.

Just come to terms with the numerical make up of the site and you see you are just one in a thousand!

Nice photos

Maybe it's because you come across as a smarmy person. The answer is normally closer than you think, the "nice photos" comment says it all, to us."

Well I'm sure if somebody is negative with you, you respond?

So when he said (also offering nothing constructive)


"

These woe is me threads from single blokes are getting a bit monotonous now."

...Well then I'll be negative back to him

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"

No alterations to the site will make it easier for you to get people to agree to meet you

I disagree, but that's your opinion "

So why would changing the site in the way you suggest make it easier for you?

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I wonder what this site costs to run. Because whilst it hosts large amounts of images, they’re poor quality. And the site is like one from the 90s. Given the amount of people who seem to be silver or gold members (seems to be the majority), I’m surprised the site is so incredibly basic. It’s essentially a simple database. "

Agreed.

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

So why do you 1. Want it to be adapted to function like one? And 2. want people to swipe based on your aesthetic appeal?"

It's not solely about the aesthetic appeal - The profile also has a bio attached to it.

Understand that I'm not saying FS should lose the main core of the site that it is.... I'm simply suggesting the swipe feature as another area to the site for those who are seeking.

You don't HAVE to use it.

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By *ames_Solo OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Anyway - Let's knock this conversation on the head. We've gone over everything now

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"

So why do you 1. Want it to be adapted to function like one? And 2. want people to swipe based on your aesthetic appeal?

It's not solely about the aesthetic appeal - The profile also has a bio attached to it.

Understand that I'm not saying FS should lose the main core of the site that it is.... I'm simply suggesting the swipe feature as another area to the site for those who are seeking.

You don't HAVE to use it."

Given the majority of profiles on here don't have face pics (unlike the vanilla apps you've mentioned).....what are you swiping to say you like?

Nice tits? Nice arse? Nice legs?

What happens when you swipe and then later find out the face doesn't suit you or vice versa? You're back in the exact same boat you're in now.

Making something relate more to visuals rather than the full package of images, words and specific details is where those apps struggle. And why single guys moan that women on them have an easy life, the pick of the bunch and that if you're not 'aesthetically pleasing on the eye' you get nowhere.

Actually. That sounds like many a gripe in the forums.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get to a club, plenty in the midlands, see this site as a plan D. Or a way of connecting with people you meet in clubs.

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