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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Have any guys actually had women get in contact with them after reading your profile? What attracted them?

Any women actively ever messaged any guys on here?

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By *rad670Man
over a year ago

South Lakes

I've been messaged first just a few times, I think it was when I was offering chocolate and prosseco with no strings attached

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeh for the first year I was on here, several women contacted me and a couple did lead to meets. Doesn't happen at all now. But I suspect it's the same for many.

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By *ungmagic10Man
over a year ago

Northampton

Lol ofc

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By *eadchefski1970Man
over a year ago

York

Nope, not yet, still hoping lol

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By *urulovesnylonMan
over a year ago

Harrow

A couple of times but mainly I do the mailing lol

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"Have any guys actually had women get in contact with them after reading your profile? What attracted them?

Any women actively ever messaged any guys on here?"

The only time its happened ..its pretty clear the profiles were fake or very suspicious...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I message guys that interest me...could be off the back of a forum thread, a picture that I like or the profile text...there just has to be something to pique the interest.

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By *renzMan
over a year ago

Between Chichester and Havant

Yes, it happens. I'm usually the one to send a first message, but I have had several from females or couples over the years. Usually due to my profile text, a story I have written for the forums or some other contribution to the forums. It has led to at least a couple of socials.

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I've messaged men first of something is said in the forum's that interests me or if I see a profile that interests me.

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By *eorgeo1Man
over a year ago

Slaley

Nope never. I’ve always messaged first, now getting a reply is a completely a different thread all together!.

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

Yes I have had women message me. Sometimes to chat about something I posted on the forums, other times because they found me whilst searching in our locality I suppose. Always good to chat to others in the lifestyle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very rarely, can probably count them on the one hand anyway. That’s just fab life for guys I feel.

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By *uriousscouserWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

I search profiles and message first when I see one that tickles my fancy. I don't carpet bomb messages, I only send when I've something to say. I send maybe 3 or 4 messages in an average week.

Some of my most interesting conversations on here have happened with guys I've messaged, because I at least know the conversation won't start with "hey."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I search profiles and message first when I see one that tickles my fancy. I don't carpet bomb messages, I only send when I've something to say. I send maybe 3 or 4 messages in an average week.

Some of my most interesting conversations on here have happened with guys I've messaged, because I at least know the conversation won't start with "hey." "

Hey xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's how I met my fwb, almost 5 years ago

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By *ear in the chairMan
over a year ago

yeah there


"Very rarely, can probably count them on the one hand anyway. That’s just fab life for guys I feel. "

I think that's the norm bar a few exceptional bits of male Adonis like eye candy. And they work hard on that physique so good luck to them

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By *arryandAnnCouple
over a year ago

Hereford


"I message guys that interest me...could be off the back of a forum thread, a picture that I like or the profile text...there just has to be something to pique the interest. "

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By *ooljoeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

I've been approached by females severally on streets, shops and at train stations. But none here Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been approached by females severally on streets, shops and at train stations. But none here Lol"

It's amazing, the difference, being able to see someone makes, eh?!

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down


"Very rarely, can probably count them on the one hand anyway. That’s just fab life for guys I feel.

I think that's the norm bar a few exceptional bits of male Adonis like eye candy. And they work hard on that physique so good luck to them "

I can safely say I've never messaged one of those.And I find that seems to be an excuse guys make when they aren't having the success on here that they want .Yes some women are looking for well hung men with a 6 pack but there are plenty that aren't as well .

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By *herryEatersCouple
over a year ago

East Cheshire

Lol yes, couples and single women (my single guy profile). One woman now my fwb . Why ?, open, honest and stupid jokes lol

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By *acDreamyMan
over a year ago

Wirral

I have had my best chats with people who have messaged me. They don't start off defensive and it is easier if you know there must have been some attraction there! X

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By *andlingswingersCouple
over a year ago

Woodbridge

Our male half was messaged first. That was three years and three months ago. It's worked out quite well!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A few times but not for a while. It definitely initiated much better conversation. From what I understand, women get inundated with guys messaging them. I’m lucky to get a reply if I message first, and even then the conversation is mainly one sided. Tbh I’ve stopped messaging for the time being. Lots more choice for women, so us guys have to work hard!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I message first all the time. But regardless of who messages first it never seems to go anywhere anymore

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

You know the 80/20 rule? It’s like the 90/10 rules on here

10% of guys get 90% of the messages sent by women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get a few but it's 2021 you know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not recently. But then again they are just going off pics as still haven't filled out profile.

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By *xtrafun4youMan
over a year ago

Dunstable

I Wish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had one last week, was a nice surprise plus a good chat. Just a shame we were both too far away from each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep. It does happen

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth

Not often but it has occurred, not progressed anywhere though

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By *aseyjones7Man
over a year ago

leicestershire

Occasionally. Like an earlier post said it's goo to know there must have been something they liked about the profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lucky if I get a message back, let alone a message off the cuff!

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By *arty84Man
over a year ago

Orpington

Yes but not on here!

Although it was just a plain hi and when I said hi back expecting her to say something or ask a question, I got nothing, as she was expected me to bring up a topic.

That ended up being such a good conversation...

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North

Yes I have messaged men before

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, I have. Usually happens off the back of a status update (if I also like the profile)

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By *uitednbooted2Man
over a year ago

Berkshire

I don’t think women are shy at messaging guys in here I just think they are more selective who they message! Why they message me fuck knows ! I’m well old

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have any guys actually had women get in contact with them after reading your profile? What attracted them?

Any women actively ever messaged any guys on here?"

I have a couple of times (almost exclusively MM couples) but not had any meets from them.

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By *oldyoudown41Man
over a year ago

caledonian

I have been lucky enough that one or two ladies braved it and texts first and it worked out beautifully.. but it is a rare thing unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have any guys actually had women get in contact with them after reading your profile? What attracted them?

Any women actively ever messaged any guys on here?"

A lot more these days...

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By *rench mimiTV/TS
over a year ago

london

This ladies she is very very sexy with high heels.This ladie very very sexy .she's stunning strict.she sound very cruel .she don't say much but I can tell. She's Gona have lots of BLK man to fuck me and I should be kissing her feets. She's Gona make sure I will come back agailjn

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By *ornyharry39Man
over a year ago

Sheffield

Get messages off single women and couples first quite often advertise for a meet and if any interested they will be in touch

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By *rench mimiTV/TS
over a year ago

london

There is nothing that make my heart bits.but mis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have had a couple of ladies message me first, they worked out on the whole to be wondeful people and great friendships were formed and are still going

Its always lovely when a women messages etc and I even state on my profile I'll message them if they want to just wink or fab a photo

Always flattering when someone takes an interest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do

But its a struggle getting replies x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do

But its a struggle getting replies x"

That's surprising and rather disappointing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have any guys actually had women get in contact with them after reading your profile? What attracted them?

Any women actively ever messaged any guys on here?"

Have you seen some of the male profiles on here? Close up dick pics with either "fill in later" or "just ask" as the original text then two paragraphs of legal threats.

If I have initiated messaging then I have planned to accommodate/host for a meet. Most that contact me don't even read my profile. I know this seldom applies to men on the forums that seem to have their shit together.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we've been on fab right from the begining and we have never messaged a guy a woman or a couple as a first message there no real reason for it apart from we've always had enought mail to sort and alway found meets from our mail box...

this was the same on ''thee big sites before fab''

i do feel for single guys on here as its a massive numbers game but thats just the way it is cant blame others for that

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By *irtyfuxCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk NOT

I'm actually thinking this is the way to go. Not much joy with the right guys contacting me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I (Bebop) contacted Rocksteady and it just went from there really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely have more chance winning the lottery than that happening..

Funny site this.

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By *ay_kiwiMan
over a year ago

Richmond

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By *ay_kiwiMan
over a year ago

Richmond

My Ex partner of 2 years, contacted me on here, I had the gas people tell me you can't come back for 48 hours ( long story).., booked in to a local Hotel, put up looking for meet, got a txt, 2 years later we parted ways. .

TBH This is a new profile, but I have been around a long time ( since Dean and Mattys site closed in 2008/9, RIP Dean xxx)

and 9/10, it is the other person or people that contact me, very very rare that it goes the other way.

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By *exy4youxxWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract


"I message guys that interest me...could be off the back of a forum thread, a picture that I like or the profile text...there just has to be something to pique the interest. "

this exactly

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By *ay_kiwiMan
over a year ago

Richmond


"I message guys that interest me...could be off the back of a forum thread, a picture that I like or the profile text...there just has to be something to pique the interest.

this exactly "

Well said x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve messaged guys first, usually after reading a status update or because I like their profile/pics.

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By *ulkuriMan
over a year ago

London

Never happened to me. I'm surprised if someone looks at my profile!

But as that has never been the expectation nor hope, I'm not bothered by it.

On another site it did happen. Both times the conversation ended in questions about my cock after "hey"...

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By *nfin8yWoman
over a year ago

Newcastle-under-Lyme

Yes I’ve messaged a few and it’s usually because I find their profile interesting. Helps if they have recent photos (not just dick pics too).

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By *oppet22TV/TS
over a year ago

huddersfield

Yes a few times had a good chat with them too its not allways about sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve never had a female message me, except in one instance where I got a two-word opening message from someone totally randomly, which I “mentioned” in a forum thread and then got a ban. Brilliant!

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By *inkycreamCouple
over a year ago

manchester

Guys with a proper profile, are likely to get

messages, and certainly more replies. But let’s be honest there are so many bell ends with one line sentences thinking shits going to happen.

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By *ay_kiwiMan
over a year ago

Richmond

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Yes I messaged men on numerous occasions. Sometimes just to compliment a photo, respond to an update or to invite them to a party.

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By *ay_kiwiMan
over a year ago

Richmond


"Guys with a proper profile, are likely to get

messages, and certainly more replies. But let’s be honest there are so many bell ends with one line sentences thinking shits going to happen. "

Replaced- COuld not have put it better. x

With -

Could not have put it better. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have had a few message from forum chats/topics. There are 2 that I'm now good friends with.

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By *moothshaftMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Now and again I'll get a message from a younger woman saying how much they like the look of a older guy.

And I'll be even older tomorrow, it's my birthday! Lol

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

I’ve received first messages from women, mostly as a result of my comments in the forum. Not all were the kind of messages you’d hope for lol, but I have gone on to have meets from some

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By *evoncream2017Couple
over a year ago

exeter

We had so many messages from the “wife” of the couple which were clearly fake asking for pics to show the husband.

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

Yes, and in clubs too, sometimes.

Once a woman came up to me and said “It’s you, I can’t believe it’s you!”

I pulled my shoulders back, sucked in the stomach and opened my mouth to say something witty, charming and warm…

She said “Are you ever coming back to finish that bloody garden wall?”

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

One, almost straight away: She pulled me!

All other contacts, from women can be filed under this-is-not-a-chat-up!

Feel free to correct this....

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By *tickler2000Man
over a year ago

St Agnes

Yes I have had a few contact me.

They have all wanted to try the extra attachment.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

A few do. I like it.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham


"A few do. I like it. "

A very small few though.

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By *aul_j80Man
over a year ago

Bloxwich

Yes I've been messaged first a few times, which is always welcome, and have had meets from this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tend to have a lot more men messaging me even though I state I’m straight

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By *LiamMan
over a year ago

Midlands

I've had loads message me and it definitely isn't my profile

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By *EAT..85Woman
over a year ago

Nottingham

I message people if my interest is piqued

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've messaged men first, why wouldn't I? It's usually because of a status update that's been put on. What's the worst thing that can happen? x

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over a year ago

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By *.luke7Man
over a year ago

.

Sometimes I get woman message me. But it’s mainly woman who love miles away. Still a good feeling but obviously empty! Haha

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By *tarburst babydollMan
over a year ago

Dingwall

I have messaged a guy first once because I thought I recognised him in one of his pics by a tattoo and thought he was hot

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By *tm321Man
over a year ago

ask

I have done before now but not for a while. Feel free to approach me if interested anybody

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By *urora1912Woman
over a year ago

Norfolk East anglia

I message guys

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By *95888Man
over a year ago

carlisle

Think I’ve had two the whole time I’ve been on here

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve had quite a few messages yes. Some have led to more too. I think being active in the forums helps. Also I noticed this was more frequent when I hit ‘over a year ago’ as membership status.

Hang in there OP.

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By *ischer400777Man
over a year ago

stanley county durham

I get over 20 messages a day from women

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By *ischer400777Man
over a year ago

stanley county durham


"Think I’ve had two the whole time I’ve been on here"
I don’t understand why you have a gym fit body slim and toned

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By *olden RatioWoman
over a year ago

Buckinghamshire

I message the guys I find intriguing

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By *ave1963MexboroughMan
over a year ago

Mexborough


"Have any guys actually had women get in contact with them after reading your profile? What attracted them?

Any women actively ever messaged any guys on here?"

Yes, I had a woman contact me. Three actually, although I only met two of them and one of those I didn't click with so nothing happened.

The lady I did go on to play with (and still do occasionally) said the thing that led to her wanting to meet me was a verification left on my profile extolling the virtues of my oral skills (yes, I was shocked as well!).

I hope my experiences give hope to all those guys who are struggling to get a meet. As you can see from my profile pic I'm not exactly Brad Pitt in the looks department, and I could do with working on my body more too.

Nevertheless, I've had some success so keep at it boys. One thing's for sure, it certainly won't happen if you give up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been messaged first just a few times, I think it was when I was offering chocolate and prosseco with no strings attached "

Was the chocolate on you?

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By *he MuffinmanMan
over a year ago

West Gloucestershire


"I message guys that interest me...could be off the back of a forum thread, a picture that I like or the profile text...there just has to be something to pique the interest. "

Of course I had to perve at your profile.... I never thought I think somebody reading a shipping forecast would be sexy. I like the pics and the story video very much. Well done on being different

C x

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By *arehamMan
over a year ago

handforth

I’ve had a few get in touch nothing has come of it.

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By *orkshrCplCouple
over a year ago

Ripon

I've messaged first quite a few times

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately no

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke


"Very rarely, can probably count them on the one hand anyway. That’s just fab life for guys I feel.

I think that's the norm bar a few exceptional bits of male Adonis like eye candy. And they work hard on that physique so good luck to them

I can safely say I've never messaged one of those.And I find that seems to be an excuse guys make when they aren't having the success on here that they want .Yes some women are looking for well hung men with a 6 pack but there are plenty that aren't as well . "

Where ? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not mailed me unfortunately, but I live in hope that maybe one day it will happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes had some good chats but then the infamous ghosting lol

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By *entleman JayMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Yes I have. It happens every now and then.

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By *op bash ashMan
over a year ago

chatham

I sometimes get the odd inbox after a status update or new picture upload. I think initial attraction is from what a woman sees ie funny status or something she relates to or even just to say they like a picture. Once someone is viewing our profile it’s down to how much you want to put out there. I’m a believer that if we give as much info as we can in our bios about what we bring to the table and what we want in return it makes the choice of messaging us a little easier as we are no longer just another profile but one that stands out that little bit more. That being said... I have yet to meet with a woman who messaged me first lol we just gotta cross our fingers and hope for the best

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I message huys first sometimes, if you make yourself open to it and share enough of yourself that I can warm to.

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By *B69Woman
over a year ago

Wiltshire

I will message a guy if his pictures are attractive and I’m intrigued by their profile

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By *erfectly-PervertedWoman
over a year ago

Bramhall

Gosh... Have you got the poshest bathroom ever ? or wash it a quick kitchen sink wash x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's some beautiful women on here I'd be happy to be approached by

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

Yes, I have had first messages from women. Sometimes it's a response to something I've written in the forums, but mostly it's because they've accidentally hit "Reply privately" rather than "Reply in forum".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have messaged first a few times when we've been on the lookout for a helping hand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. I’ve had women/couples messsge me first. It doesn’t happen often but it does happen.

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By *ydia_LovegoodWoman
over a year ago

St. Ives

I have occasionally.. why should guys have to do all the work? It's the 21st century, if I see someone I like then of course I'll message first...

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By *lackMetalMan
over a year ago

Centre

Yeah, definitely happens.

Sometimes as a result of a forum post, sometimes to compliment the pics. Sometimes we’ll thought our messages that gives one hope in the site, other times one word messages in the middle of the night from profiles with no pics.

But it happens…

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By *lixir of lifeMan
over a year ago

knob Creek

Most of my meets I’ve been approached first ..

I think once you’ve a few verifications and they say nice things , not too sexual but about what a nice person you are .. then people will message you ..

Don’t just look like another pervert and be obsessed with photographing your todger..

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By *uddly GoblinMan
over a year ago

Manchester

I've had a few message first sometimes purely from viewing my profile other times from status or forum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m part of a couple and my boyfriend loves me talking to guys I fancy so it does happen that women approach men. You have to remember that there are a LOT of idiots on here and women are reluctant to say too much too soon xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A woman actually approached me first last night! First time this year! Wonders never cease haha

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By *ungryghostMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

Site is predominantly 99% men utter rubbish go else where

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By *LiamMan
over a year ago

Midlands


"Site is predominantly 99% men utter rubbish go else where"
it is what you make it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Site is predominantly 99% men utter rubbish go else where"

It can get very disheartening. That’s how I feel the majority of the time. But I have had a few very good meets. It’s a challenge!

Best way of meeting is to go to clubs if you can.

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

Yep I’ve messaged first if a profile attracts me

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By *ay_kiwiMan
over a year ago

Richmond

Carrying on from my other posts on this topic, Just had a mail from someone asking for today, stunning looking she is, problem for me is can only accom as ride is in the workshop. , 80mil or more.

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By *olden PoleMan
over a year ago

London

Had a wink from a woman which is progressing to a potential meet at Pleasures

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

Every message I have received in the last 18 months has been from women making first contact because I don't send messages.

Some were attracted just by my pics, some by a combination of my pics and bio and others by what a number of them described as my no BS approach to the forums.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Off to send some first messages

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a woman ever messages me first I assume it's a man with a female account. That's how it is on other apps.

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By *oldyoudown41Man
over a year ago

caledonian


"If a woman ever messages me first I assume it's a man with a female account. That's how it is on other apps. "

Ahahhaha very good

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK


"If a woman ever messages me first I assume it's a man with a female account. That's how it is on other apps. "

Agreed...the only time I have got messages from women/couples...it always feels fake. Account sent up recently/want a friends invite straight away/no veris....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve never sent one, probably due to feeling a lack of confidence. Maybe one day I’ll brave it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve never went one and don’t think I would

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By *unmatt888Man
over a year ago

Duns


"Have any guys actually had women get in contact with them after reading your profile? What attracted them?

Any women actively ever messaged any guys on here?"

Yes, and “mild amusement” would seem to be the primary reason.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, I have been approached, still awaiting a real result yet though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If a woman ever messages me first I assume it's a man with a female account. That's how it is on other apps.

Ahahhaha very good "

You’d get a first message from me if you were closer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bloody wish!! It is always me who makes the first move in messaging, this has never happened to me

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By *88eMan
over a year ago

Northumberland

I was reading this thread earlier and just really thought that it was always men that messaged women/couples (and other men) and low and behold.....I have just a received a message from a couple without prompt!!!!

So I no longer relate hahah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I've messaged first, is that unusual?

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By *quaman87Man
over a year ago

colchester

Women do message guys, I presume when interested.??

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By *ikesEmBigMan
over a year ago

Herts


"Have any guys actually had women get in contact with them after reading your profile? What attracted them?

Any women actively ever messaged any guys on here?"

Yes. My sparkling wit and comedy penis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have never had a woman message me first well not yet anyway, still hoping tho

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By *ita7Man
over a year ago

Kettering

Yes have had success. Contributing in forums is a good way of peaking interest from the girls & cpls I find. If you just sit here just messaging without any content in what you say your going to have little success! It's like reading CV,s If the first few words dont do it then you dont get the job or in this case the fun!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have any guys actually had women get in contact with them after reading your profile? What attracted them?

Any women actively ever messaged any guys on here?"

Hit the threads have a laugh

Otherwise your pissing against the wind expecting a girl to crack on !

Does happen mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's pretty rare, usually play the game of cycling between profile photos see which gets the most attention lmao.

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By *urplechesterCouple
over a year ago

chester

It’s rare that I’ll get a message first on my single profile from another lady, but it doesn’t bother me, I quite like sending the first message! It’s a handy way of seeing if they’re bothered by my dyslexic ramblings, may as well put it out there first haha. Miss PC

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s like a sunny day. They come occasionally, when they do I piss my pants. But then it’s followed by darkness and damp.

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By *xfordshireCoupleMFCouple
over a year ago

Nr. Oxford

I (Lily) used to message or wink guys I liked the look of, however all those I arranged meets with would cancel or not show up. It gave me quite the complex so I don’t message first anymore and John does most of the talking.

Lily

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m not really bothered about receiving messages first I prefer reading profiles and finding people I feel intrigue me, I have received messages first and winks mostly from being involved on the forums

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Used to happen a lot but rarely if ever now. The same with me messaging, used to happen a lot as I was actively meeting, now, if I've messaged it's only generally, as I haven't looked in the the last 3 yrs.

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By *otTheReal01Man
over a year ago

London

Over the years I've had a few women message me that I ended up meeting but it's pretty rare.

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By *ita7Man
over a year ago

Kettering


"I (Lily) used to message or wink guys I liked the look of, however all those I arranged meets with would cancel or not show up. It gave me quite the complex so I don’t message first anymore and John does most of the talking.

Unbelievable they didnt turn up for you!

Lily "

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