FabSwingers.com forum: Circumcision

By *ave200123 OP Man
over a year ago

Retford

What are peoples thoughts on cut or uncut. I am currently uncut but thinking of having it cut.

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By *hickennchipsWoman
over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

Only do it if you need to!

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By *hickennchipsWoman
over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

Ps. I’m not bothered either way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What are peoples thoughts on cut or uncut. I am currently uncut but thinking of having it cut."

I would research what circumcision does to the penis and the sensation lost.

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By *ireman28Man
over a year ago

Derbyshire Nottinghamshire

I was thinking about when I was younger. Glad I'm still uncut tbh.

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By *ave200123 OP Man
over a year ago

Retford

"I was thinking about when I was younger. Glad I'm still uncut tbh."

Does your gland get caught under the head?

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm circumcised and feel everything no sensitivity lost.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up"

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

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By *ave200123 OP Man
over a year ago

Retford

At what age were you done

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I'm circumcised and feel everything no sensitivity lost."

How would you know? You don't have a reference penis...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm cut and have perfect sensation during fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got circumcised 9 years ago (for medical reasons) - I lost no sensitivity, more like the opposite.

The healing was the worse - men get on average 4/5 erections a night, imagine stapling two pieces of paper together side-by-side and slowly pulling them apart! I ripped 5 stitches in the first two nights.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I got circumcised 9 years ago (for medical reasons) - I lost no sensitivity, more like the opposite.

Oh I forgot about that bit

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"I'm circumcised and feel everything no sensitivity lost.

How would you know? You don't have a reference penis..."

This

If you were cut as an adult and havent lost sensation then id simply say you have not been fully circumcised. The glands are exposed and maybe this compensates but a foreskin is more sensitive than a the shaft.

Cut bloke here btw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I got circumcised 9 years ago (for medical reasons) - I lost no sensitivity, more like the opposite.

Oh I forgot about that bit "

I am never forgetting that bit... waking up in the middle of the night with the stitches slowly ripping whilst the little chap pops his head up to have a look around.

A pint glass of ice cubes is your friend at 2am in the morning!

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By *oppet22TV/TS
over a year ago

huddersfield

Would not know what difference between cut or Uncut as I was cut at birth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm circumcised and feel everything no sensitivity lost.

How would you know? You don't have a reference penis..."

Love the idea of a reference penis. Of course, it would have to be to a British kitemark standard, now that we're free of the tyranny of EU genitalia regulations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm circumcised and feel everything no sensitivity lost.

How would you know? You don't have a reference penis..."

That made me spit my coffee out!

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I'm circumcised and feel everything no sensitivity lost.

How would you know? You don't have a reference penis...

Love the idea of a reference penis. Of course, it would have to be to a British kitemark standard, now that we're free of the tyranny of EU genitalia regulations."

Does your cock conform to bs3621??

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm "

I find the clarity about this here vs the clarity in the US so interesting. You can really see how indoctrinated the two countries are about these things. People struggle to question these subject matters effectively when they're so ingrained in the way they are brought up.

I do, of course, thing it's a bloody despicable practice. Probably wouldn't if I was american though.

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By *ireman28Man
over a year ago

Derbyshire Nottinghamshire

"I was thinking about when I was younger. Glad I'm still uncut tbh.

Does your gland get caught under the head?"

How do you mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was thinking about when I was younger. Glad I'm still uncut tbh.

Does your gland get caught under the head?

How do you mean?"

Might mean the foreskin getting stuck behind the glands.

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By *ave200123 OP Man
over a year ago

Retford

Yes foreskin getting stuck and tight behind glands

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By *rctopusMan
over a year ago

Borehamwood

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

I do, of course, thing it's a bloody despicable practice. Probably wouldn't if I was american though."

I went out with an American when I was at university. She had never been with an uncircumcised man - when I first boiinged out of my pants, she reacted like I still had a tail!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My old school friend still talks about how nice it would be to have a foreskin..he says as he has gotten older he is loosing more and more sensation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes foreskin getting stuck and tight behind glands"

i had the same issue. Feels like its going to split. Mine was fixed without surgery.

Go speak to your GP. They may give you steroid cream and buy a fleshlight. Fixed mine

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I went out with an American when I was at university. She had never been with an uncircumcised man - when I first boiinged out of my pants, she reacted like I still had a tail!"

Sounds about right, they often think it's literally disgusting, if all the comments I read on reddit are to be believed.

Not played with too many cocks myself, I *think* one was cut but I didn't really notice either way! A good hard uncut cock seems to retract a fair way anyway... I need more data points though to be sure!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I went out with an American when I was at university. She had never been with an uncircumcised man - when I first boiinged out of my pants, she reacted like I still had a tail!

Sounds about right, they often think it's literally disgusting, if all the comments I read on reddit are to be believed.

Heard a story from america. Apprantly Rabbi's kiss the penis once its circumcised. This Rabbi had Herpes and ended up spreading it to the babies

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By *ave200123 OP Man
over a year ago

Retford

"Yes foreskin getting stuck and tight behind glands

i had the same issue. Feels like its going to split. Mine was fixed without surgery.

Go speak to your GP. They may give you steroid cream and buy a fleshlight. Fixed mine"

Forgive my innocence but whats a fleshlight and how does it help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm "

Here here.

Don't do it unless you have need to, OP. That's my advice. Luke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes foreskin getting stuck and tight behind glands

i had the same issue. Feels like its going to split. Mine was fixed without surgery.

Go speak to your GP. They may give you steroid cream and buy a fleshlight. Fixed mine

Forgive my innocence but whats a fleshlight and how does it help"

Basically a latex vagina, looks like a torch. They are very tight when you first get them. So they pull the foreskin back.

If you given the cream from GP, use it a couple times a day for week and you willl notice it easier to pull back. Ten using the fleshlight forces the skin to go back. Just use a bit of lube go slowly

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By *azyafternoonMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

I can't imagine why anyone would want to be circumcised, unless for medical reasons. We evolved a foreskin, so why would it be a good idea to remove it? This happened before cleanliness/hygiene was ever an issue. And in our modern times, everyone can keep clean easily, so even less reason to continue this barbaric practice.

Or am I just biased because I'm uncut?

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I can't imagine why anyone would want to be circumcised, unless for medical reasons. We evolved a foreskin, so why would it be a good idea to remove it? This happened before cleanliness/hygiene was ever an issue. And in our modern times, everyone can keep clean easily, so even less reason to continue this barbaric practice.

Or am I just biased because I'm uncut?"

I think you're biased primarily because you live in a society with that bias. I agree with the bias, but it IS a bias, however logically reasoned.

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

OP. As my GP, and subsequently, my specialist said late last year, Circumcision is really a last resort decision, due to medical issues.

But as all medical options had not worked for me, I was advised to have the Surgery.

That happened 2 weeks ago tomorrow on the NHS, performed by a great surgeon & with excellent back-up care.

Yes, I've gone through some of the side-effects listed so far, but painkillers helped for the first week.

The involuntary erections did cause me some discomfort but weren't as much of a major problem, compared to finding clothing that wasn't going to chafe me into a state of madness!!

I'd 7 days off work, but now 2 weeks on, I'm feeling better, with a further 2-3 weeks to allow full recovery.

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By *anTouchThisCouple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

I recommend anyone watch the documentary 'American Circumcision' on Netflix.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got mine done for medical reasons as a child. So can’t compare sex to with a foreskin, I just know it’s still incredible sensitive and I get plenty of pleasure, might be dulled a wee bit as exposed but maybe that’s why I can last a long time? Also no one cares. Some girls might prefer cut or un cut and that’s there choice.

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By *azyafternoonMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

To be honest, I'm not sure why I asked the question about being biased. Of course I am! I'm just grateful that my parents never had me circumcised...

Which begs another question. I think circumcision was far more prevalent in the '50s when I was I born, than it is now. Would I be correct that assumption?

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

Prefer cut personally

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"To be honest, I'm not sure why I asked the question about being biased. Of course I am! I'm just grateful that my parents never had me circumcised...

Which begs another question. I think circumcision was far more prevalent in the '50s when I was I born, than it is now. Would I be correct that assumption?"

Well it doesn't beg the question, that's a logical fallacy, google the phrase and use it correctly! It does potentially ask one though... a quick google suggest you might be right from a 1990 study...

Age % Number Birth-Year

16-24 12.5 1874 1966-1974

25-34 15.9 2111 1956-1975

35-44 26.4 1956 1946-1955

45-59 32.3 2049 1931-19455

Religion % Number

None 18.4 4120

Church of England 24.7 2011

Roman Catholic 18.6 678

Other Christian 22.1 863

Non-Christian 55.8 3125

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Prefer cut. Mr adventure is cut

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Yes foreskin getting stuck and tight behind glands"

There is treatment to try and stretch the tight foreskin before going down the circumcision route. If you haven't already, ask your GP about using a steroid cream combined with massage/manipulation. This worked for our son.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be honest, I'm not sure why I asked the question about being biased. Of course I am! I'm just grateful that my parents never had me circumcised...

Which begs another question. I think circumcision was far more prevalent in the '50s when I was I born, than it is now. Would I be correct that assumption?"

I seem to remember reading somewhere that when the NHS started, late 40s/eary 50s, it was decided that circumcisions would not be covered for free - and the number willing to pay dropped dramatically. Compare to the USA where foreskin snipping is big bucks for the surgeons, as medical insurance often covers the procedure. One can see why the US medical profession stresses the 'health benefits'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was circumcised several years ago for medical reasons, the nurse told me the stitches would come out on their own, and or dissolve.

Had to cut them out myself after a week or so because they so fucking didn't!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes foreskin getting stuck and tight behind glands

Yep, exactly the same as what i did.

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By *ydropoweredMan
over a year ago

By the river

I got circumcised about 2 years ago

So the first 10+ years of my sex life I was uncut

Not noticed a massive difference in sensitivity just a slightly different look

I've not had any complaints

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i was done as a baby, due to medical reasons, never missed it, i didnt even know that a forskin was a thing until my teens, i cant compare to having one, but dont feel that im missing anything

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"I got circumcised about 2 years ago

So the first 10+ years of my sex life I was uncut

Not noticed a massive difference in sensitivity just a slightly different look

I've not had any complaints"

Not to mansplain but if your foreskin isnt there then by definition you cant have any sense in it. You have lost the sensation of the foreskin. The foreskin is extremely sensitive and has loads of nerve endings. Without any foreskin you have the shaft and the glands but have lost a sensitive part of the penis.

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By *etwifeandhim69Couple
over a year ago

Darlington

"What are peoples thoughts on cut or uncut. I am currently uncut but thinking of having it cut."

I got circumsiced in my 30s due to an unfortunate zipper accident (yeah dont ask) so I had to do it due to medical reasons.

It is not something anyone should want to do imo. You end up with about a 30% sensation loss. Someone who had it done when they where young (which I am against) would not grow up knowing there is a difference but as an adult, yeah I certainly noticed. Not the end of the world obviously and pleasure is still pleasure but if I could have that extra sensation back, I would

Only do it for medical reasons. Nothing else is worth it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was cut due to medical reasons, foreskin was too tight so it had to go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm staying as a Cavalier, I wouldn't be able to dock if I was a roundhead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What are peoples thoughts on cut or uncut. I am currently uncut but thinking of having it cut."

I had mine down aged 7, medical reasons. It really troubled me till late teens when the locals forgot to ostricise me and a few others got it done.

My was clean operation and the benefits are clean and an opposite attraction to the eye.

These days it's simple but a surprise or not depending!

I'm pierced upper testicle/trunk it makes me happy.

If you like it it's up to you, if the ladies see a Cherry tip looking at them what do you think?

I've also got seam distortion from the years and girls go nuts once they've seen it, in action actually I'm beautiful and swinging my big flexible cock for horny...

Visibility and visions change as well as focus its not unnatural + I love the color of Pink & Brown flying round..

I used to Hot/pant modelling discreet for the older woman and kicks.. Very nice firm cock fill etc it's so beautiful seeing the Tip revealed in hot white trunks semi rigid.. Mmm no waking now!

I'm sure a female would comment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the USA its standard depends on if parents want it and religion. It's not even close to FGM know about the subject before you generalise.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"In the USA its standard depends on if parents want it and religion. It's not even close to FGM know about the subject before you generalise."

I know a lot about the subject. It is genital mutilation. FGM is performed on a female - that is the difference. Removing the labia and clitoris is genital mutilation but so is removing the foreskin. Degrees of mutilation are you implying? Lets not count nerve endings here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing to do with nerve endings and with FGM it's done by elder in the family holding the child down..none of that is the case with circumcision. Most Americans are circumcised unless they are a different religion.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"Nothing to do with nerve endings and with FGM it's done by elder in the family holding the child down..none of that is the case with circumcision. Most Americans are circumcised unless they are a different religion. "

You are being incredibly ignorant. 2 years ago there were several babies in NY who died from herpes when the rabbi conducted a version of the bris where they suck the penis after the foreskin is cut. It is a vile and wicked practice . Maimondedes even said part of the reason for the covenany was to dull the sexual urge

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By *iggstimpyCouple
over a year ago

South East

I think to suggest "it's no different to FGM" is rather dismissive of those who endure FGM. As someone cut in the 70's as a kid - I give it no thought, don't really care one way or the other and have a great sex life regardless. I'm not sure you'd find many victims of FGM who would say the same.

There are MANY reasons that boys should not be cut and many arguments that can be used - but to liken it to being the same as something illegal and designed to yield VERY different results is just wrong. I'd be very surprised if the doctor that did mine in 1979 had the same objectives as the Taliban when they dish out FGM!

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"I think to suggest "it's no different to FGM" is rather dismissive of those who endure FGM. As someone cut in the 70's as a kid - I give it no thought, don't really care one way or the other and have a great sex life regardless. I'm not sure you'd find many victims of FGM who would say the same.

Im talking about moral equivilence really and in that respect, non medically essential circumcision (ritual for example) is only not considered reprehensible because it has been normalised. Yes girls who have it done suffer but those who say it is 'worse' seem to think there is a moral difference deontologically and that is categorically not the case

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I got circumcised 9 years ago (for medical reasons) - I lost no sensitivity, more like the opposite.

Should have kept a silver spoon to hand

Mrs

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem

"In the USA its standard depends on if parents want it and religion. It's not even close to FGM know about the subject before you generalise.

It's not just removal they sew the wounds together leaving only a tiny hole in order to menstruate through and to conceive via the husband ejaculating into the hole. Many women give birth without surgical opening they have to tear through their scars during delivery some opt for an incision to ease the delivery and many opt to have it resewn up after. When asked why many they answered so they do not have to give their husbands sex. FGM is an abhorrent act it has no medical excuse for it. It is to prevent pleasure for the female, control and destroying female sexuality.

Excuses used for male circumcision is hygiene, cultures call it becoming a man when done as a teenager.

I say if it isn't medically necessary leave it alone. FGM is nothing like male circumcision

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By *ichelle and DaveCouple
over a year ago

Tamworth

I was cut as a kid for medical reasons and although don’t really know any better but would say no sensitivity lost at all.

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By *aughtyYorkGentMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"I got circumcised 9 years ago (for medical reasons) - I lost no sensitivity, more like the opposite.

I didn't have an erection for about 6 weeks after my operation - it's like my body knew that that wouldn't be a good idea! I did manage to keep opening up the wound every time I changed the bandages (which had to be done daily) though - until I learnt to soak them off in a bath of ice cold water! I couldn't bear clothes in contact with the area for weeks after surgery - so my few days annual leave turned into a few weeks.

There is no doubt that some sensation was lost for me - primarily because the head is exposed to the outside world, rather than through loss of the nerve endings on the bit that's removed - but generally speaking I prefer being cut.

That said, I wouldn't put myself through it for reasons other than medical necessity.

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By *dquestCouple
over a year ago

Peterborough

She prefers cut.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont do it unless you have to bro, if its too tight see if theres options of a way round it before you take the last resort! You will lose sensitivity. The foreskin holds thousands of nerve endings + imagine your naked head bobbing around all day without a cover, that will desensitise it alone.. Ive dated a few american girls and they say all their exs regret it. Its only done by Jews because they think in will inhibited masturbation and that masturbation is evil. My dad was circumsicised at birth in India in the 40's.. I thought it was the norm when i was really young and nearly cut my own off with a pair of scissors. So glad i didnt - imagine that a and e trip at the age or 8!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I got circumcised 9 years ago (for medical reasons) - I lost no sensitivity, more like the opposite.

Should have kept a silver spoon to hand

Mrs"

I was not giving it a ‘tap’ with anything after the op - a pint glass of ice cubes did the trick without having to impact anything on my cock at all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There isn't any sensation lost when it's cut, and personally I think it looks nicer cut and obviously is more hygienic.

But really it should be only cut for medical reasons..

But hey people have fat out there arse injected into their lips for cosmetic purposes so don't suppose it matters

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"There isn't any sensation lost when it's cut, and personally I think it looks nicer cut and obviously is more hygienic.

But really it should be only cut for medical reasons..

But hey people have fat out there arse injected into their lips for cosmetic purposes so don't suppose it matters

How can you not lose sensation when part of it is in the bin? Pretty sure you're no longer getting those sensations...

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By *anTouchThisCouple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

"There isn't any sensation lost when it's cut, and personally I think it looks nicer cut and obviously is more hygienic."

No, maybe, and no.

Watch the documentary quoted earlier in the thread.

Sensation is lost, because you're cutting off a large section of skin filled with sensitive nerve endings. It much reduces the area available for pleasurable contact.

The head desensitises. This is clear, as in the first few weeks even underwear can be unpleasant. That isn't just due to the injury. The brain eventually recognises that it doesn't need to respond to so much contact in that area, so there's loss of sensation for a second reason. The skin on the head also toughens up over a much longer period.

What looks better is entirely dependent on the individual. It isn't just a look for preference either. In the UK where most are uncut, some people just won't know how to best give pleasure, since they don't often experience cut men.

It isn't more hygienic, unless you're in the habit of not washing anyway. In Fab terms, it's a pretty basic rule that everyone involved should be shower fresh.

So many myths persist around the subject.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"There isn't any sensation lost when it's cut, and personally I think it looks nicer cut and obviously is more hygienic.

No, maybe, and no.

Watch the documentary quoted earlier in the thread.

Sensation is lost, because you're cutting off a large section of skin filled with sensitive nerve endings. It much reduces the area available for pleasurable contact.

It isn't more hygienic, unless you're in the habit of not washing anyway. In Fab terms, it's a pretty basic rule that everyone involved should be shower fresh.

So many myths persist around the subject."

Well said. Im amazed at the men who have been circumcised as adults aee saying they lose no sensation. You litedally lose all the foreskin sensation and the glands become toughened from exposure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guys who have had it cut like myself would totally disagree that it loses sensation.

But you go on and believe your Google articles or Wikipedia.

Also regarding hygiene, when you guys go for a piss some gets trapped under that skin. Fact!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Guys who have had it cut like myself would totally disagree that it loses sensation.

But you go on and believe your Google articles or Wikipedia.

Also regarding hygiene, when you guys go for a piss some gets trapped under that skin. Fact!"

Surely they give it a quick wash after a pee ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No man is washing his cock after a pee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Guys who have had it cut like myself would totally disagree that it loses sensation.

But you go on and believe your Google articles or Wikipedia.

Also regarding hygiene, when you guys go for a piss some gets trapped under that skin. Fact!

Surely they give it a quick wash after a pee ? "

I thought everyone gives theirs a wash after a pee.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You'll be lucky if they even wash their hands

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By *onderstuff73mMan
over a year ago

Brum

"Prefer cut personally "

On my hotlist...just sayin’

haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No man is washing his cock after a pee "

Oh. I guess that was yet another sign with me then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

definitely, so I have a question when I guy goes to the toilet for a pee, where would we even wash them, I've never been on a night out walked into the gents and all 4 hand basins have got a cock being rinsed with tap water.. even funnier trying to dry it with the blower.. especially the Dyson blade..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm "

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life "

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

Unless it's medically necessary should be left alone. People forced to change gender because of an accident removing foreskin and there's quite a few cases in America of this happening, I'm quite sure those people would agree they didn't consent to it it shouldn't have been done. Americans stuck in the idea it's more hygienic

less stds well most the population has a cut cock hasn't stopped the millions of stds. The complications of an unnecessary circumcision from scar tissue to nerve damage to entire loss of penis! Should be enough to stop the practice. When they are older let them decide for themself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I got circumcised 9 years ago (for medical reasons) - I lost no sensitivity, more like the opposite.

Should have kept a silver spoon to hand

Mrs

I was not giving it a ‘tap’ with anything after the op - a pint glass of ice cubes did the trick without having to impact anything on my cock at all! "

Was it followed by a kiss after sipping hot peppermint tea?

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What are peoples thoughts on cut or uncut. I am currently uncut but thinking of having it cut."

If it aint broke don't fix it!

To be honest it's not going to get you any xtra meets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ouch!

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By *ust Us TogetherCouple
over a year ago

Newport

Having suffered with a tight foreskin for a year or two after an injury to my old fella, having it removed was a new lease of life for me!! Having had a foreskin for 58 years and tugging it for most of those years I do miss having one.....

If you need it done just do it, if not leave it alone!!!

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

If you have a medical NEED to have it done........do it !! Otherwise, leave alone.

Hygiene: not a problem, all that is needed is soap and water.

Well, those I my thoughts....

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By *inful xWoman
over a year ago

In a sleepy little village

I prefer cut tbh but it wouldn't put me off playing with someone that isn't

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By *ait88Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

Many years ago I read somewhere that women with un-cut husbands were more likely to get cervical cancer than women with cut husbands. The theory was that the foreskin is a safe haven for pathogens, and not every man washes thoroughly every time. We all have the occasional quickie here and there.

So ladies, have a glass of disinfectant beside the box condoms in case he’s an un-cut plague-carrier! You can’t tell by the taste!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Many years ago I read somewhere that women with un-cut husbands were more likely to get cervical cancer than women with cut husbands. The theory was that the foreskin is a safe haven for pathogens, and not every man washes thoroughly every time. We all have the occasional quickie here and there.

So ladies, have a glass of disinfectant beside the box condoms in case he’s an un-cut plague-carrier! You can’t tell by the taste!

More old wives tails

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am glad I am cut then x

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

"I was circumcised several years ago for medical reasons, the nurse told me the stitches would come out on their own, and or dissolve.

Had to cut them out myself after a week or so because they so fucking didn't!

You say you cut them out after only a week?

I had the same surgery 3 weeks ago today.

Regarding stitches, I was advised prior to and after the OP in written leaflet notes supplied by the hospital, plus backed up by verbal advice from the Surgeon and Nurses on the day & by my GP since, that Self-Dissolving Stitches take around 3 weeks to disappear.

However, the advice is to refrain from sexual activity for 4 weeks after said Surgery, and a general piece of advice was to allow these 4 weeks for the stitching to go altogether.

My GP's Nurse checked on me after a week and said my stitches were good, and barely visible except to a trained eye! They wouldn't create any issues, and I haven't encountered any problems.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you have a medical NEED to have it done........do it !! Otherwise, leave alone.

Hygiene: not a problem, all that is needed is soap and water.

Well, those I my thoughts.... "

Shouldn't put soap on genitals.. Should wash it every time you go for a slash, like the Muslims and the Jews do.

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion "

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

If a religious book said in order to obey your deity you had to cut off one thumb would you do it? To get to heaven and the like you had to cut off a nipple? Sounds ludicrous doesn't it. But that's exactly what it is because it's been done for centuries doesn't make it right.

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By *xLedZepxx2Man
over a year ago

Didcot

I decided as an adult to be circumcised because my foreskin was too tight which gave me confidence issues. I would advise not going through the procedure unless there is a very good medical reason.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

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By *jpcockMan
over a year ago

Nuneaton

I'm cut and not sensitive

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By *heshireguy69Man
over a year ago

saddleworth

I’m uncut and love my foreskin. Retracts fully and great when playing. And no, never had any cleanliness issues either

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines "

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The Qur'an has no word of circumcision and the Bible it's interpreted from the covenant. Doesn't say specifically to circumcise and all the abrhamic religions are based on the same verse. The giving and sharing with God the covenant.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

People have based the religious cutting of the foreskin on a story of the man in his 80s giving a gift to God by cutting his own foreskin with an axe. The books are interpreted differently and people take from it what they will and ignore what they won't. Yet circumcision still is seen as religious.

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

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By *ait88Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

"..... women with un-cut husbands were more likely to get cervical cancer than women with cut husbands.....

More old wives tails"

Wikipedia says:

“Women's Health

A 2017 systematic review found consistent evidence that male circumcision prior to heterosexual contact was associated with a decreased risk of cervical cancer, cervical dysplasia, HSV-2, chlamydia, and syphilis among women. The evidence was less consistent in regards to the potential association of circumcision with women's risk of HPV and HIV.”

So if I was a woman (which thank the Lord I’m not, sir), I’d go for the cut because (a) the uncut may be less healthy, and (b) the extra sensitivity may prevent them from staying the distance.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"..... women with un-cut husbands were more likely to get cervical cancer than women with cut husbands.....

More old wives tails

Wikipedia says:

“Women's Health

So if I was a woman (which thank the Lord I’m not, sir), I’d go for the cut because (a) the uncut may be less healthy, and (b) the extra sensitivity may prevent them from staying the distance.

Fyi the first sentence above makes no sense

Also - relative risk and absolute risk are different things. An increase from 0.7 to 1.4% is a 100% increase but if the risk of complications are 3% then it isnt worth doing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never seen any Muslims or Jews rinsing their cock in a public wash basin either.. just saying! It's not really the thing to do in public toilets is it, just imagine walking in and all the guys have their knobs flopped in the sink

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would also like to add that I don't think many women are having a wash down there after a piss either... in fact I know of alot of women who won't sit innthe seat or touch the toilet roll in public.. they hover and drip dry so I guess it's normal for most guys and gals not to wash their pissing parts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And some women's flaps are bigger than a foreskin, so they must all have pissy flaps

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By *edonisthenryMan
over a year ago

Cambridge

I have what you're looking for, a cut cock. Henry

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By *edonisthenryMan
over a year ago

Cambridge

Why does she prefer cut, asks he who is circumcised?

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By *tticusukMan
over a year ago

Formby

"What are peoples thoughts on cut or uncut. I am currently uncut but thinking of having it cut."

I got cut when I was 7 no choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anyone had or know anyone with a subincision??

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up"

Absolutely this!

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition?"

Time.

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By *ait88Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

Or am I just biased because I'm uncut?"

When animals are copulating they are vulnerable to predators and rivals. The reason for the development of the highly sensitive area at the end of the penis was to speed-up insemination. The foreskin evolved to protect this area.

Slam! Bam! Thank you, Mam!

We humans don’t have these problems with predators or rivals. So it became custom and practice in most civilisations that we know about, to remove the drawback to extended female sexual pleasure and the threat to women’s health.

So men, if you REALLY want to satisfy women, get your little pencil sharpened!

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

Or am I just biased because I'm uncut?

Slam! Bam! Thank you, Mam!

So men, if you REALLY want to satisfy women, get your little pencil sharpened!

In *most* civilisations?

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem

Or am I just biased because I'm uncut?

Slam! Bam! Thank you, Mam!

So men, if you REALLY want to satisfy women, get your little pencil sharpened!

Modern danger THE ZIPPER

Not sure you want catch your glands in a zip, I've seen quite a few zip scars

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By *aughtyYorkGentMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"Guys who have had it cut like myself would totally disagree that it loses sensation.

But you go on and believe your Google articles or Wikipedia.

Errr, no we "totally" wouldn't. I'm cut, had it done for medical reasons and generally prefer it that way. But some loss of sensation is inevitable - as others have said it's a bit of a double whammy; the sensitive foreskin no longer attached (though I do still have it in a jar!) and the unprotected head becoming desensitised. That said, there is still more than enough sensation for me to enjoy all the usual activities.

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By *aughtyYorkGentMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"Guys who have had it cut like myself would totally disagree that it loses sensation.

But you go on and believe your Google articles or Wikipedia.

Also regarding hygiene, when you guys go for a piss some gets trapped under that skin. Fact!

Surely they give it a quick wash after a pee ? "

That is very definitely in the realms of "maybe in an ideal world but no chance in the real one".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was circumcised at just under 5 years old.

Oh how I've longed for a foreskin.

Not!

As has been said, only have it done if it needs doing.

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By *lowHands84Man
over a year ago

Holbeach

"I got circumcised 9 years ago (for medical reasons) - I lost no sensitivity, more like the opposite.

I have had exactly the same. Had mine done for medical reasons a few years ago, after the healing process (which was grim at best) I haven’t lost any sensations, if anything it has been heightened. Considering how things were before?...best thing I’ve done yet

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

Much much prefer uncut , but I can't be doing with tight foreskins that doesn't easily roll all the way back

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By *dcouple4funCouple
over a year ago

DUNDEE

I had mine done about 10 years ago for the same reason, in my 30s.

Tried non surgical methods, cream etc first, no joy.

Healing was about a week of doing nothing, being waiting on by the other half.

Differences, more sensation not less. higher lube bill.

I was really worried about it before hand, shouldn't have, glad it was done.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'd encourage people to research it fully and to take their own decision, as there is no perfect position for all, nor without negatives. Medical need?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition. "

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never seen any Muslims or Jews rinsing their cock in a public wash basin either.. just saying! It's not really the thing to do in public toilets is it, just imagine walking in and all the guys have their knobs flopped in the sink

You take water in the cubicle with you duh

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

You go read up on fgm being religious you'll find it is.

The thumbs and nipples is the absurdity of cutting off a bodypart to appease the faith. Would you do it if it was expected of you is the question I asked and you can't even grasp the concept.

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By *ohn32991Man
over a year ago

LEEK

I was circumcisedat birth for medical reasons and have had no loss of sensation. I can keep myself clean easier than uncut guys. I hate meeting guys with cheesey cocks. Old unwashed cum behind the foreskin is gross and can smell well...cheesey. Urg!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Circumcised at 3 days old due to a tight foreskin so I was told so I have no experience of being uncut.

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By *r_Jake70Man
over a year ago

London

"I'm circumcised and feel everything no sensitivity lost."

How do you know?

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By *uzyamCouple
over a year ago

Shropshire

No loss of sensation here

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

You go read up on fgm being religious you'll find it is.

The thumbs and nipples is the absurdity of cutting off a bodypart to appease the faith. Would you do it if it was expected of you is the question I asked and you can't even grasp the concept."

Fgm isnt religious- it is a north and west african cultural thing that christians in the area do as well as muslims etc... it is a practice that grew in those areas and was exported to the arab peninsula but isnt a widespread practice outside of african cultures. Hence it isnt a religious practice butna cultural one

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

You go read up on fgm being religious you'll find it is.

The thumbs and nipples is the absurdity of cutting off a bodypart to appease the faith. Would you do it if it was expected of you is the question I asked and you can't even grasp the concept.

Islamic Shafi'i from Sunni Islam it as a requirement of faith it is obligatory. Shafi'i is one of four schools of Sunni jurisprudence.

It relies on the Qur'an and the Hadiths for Sharia.

Sharia law takes precedent in Islamic communities over the law of the countries they reside.

FGM conducted here is compulsory jail sentence when caught. But it doesn't stop families sending their daughters out of the country to be mutilated.

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

Circumcised cock is sexy as hell to suck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m cut and feel everything but I’ve never known any different.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

I do, of course, thing it's a bloody despicable practice. Probably wouldn't if I was american though.

I went out with an American when I was at university. She had never been with an uncircumcised man - when I first boiinged out of my pants, she reacted like I still had a tail!"

You used to have a tail???

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By *aidForSharingWoman
over a year ago

Lancashire

"Prefer cut personally "

Me too. Looks nicer and is more hygienic

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By *ine of BootyCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow/ Manchester

My foreskin splits constantly with the mrs, my gland is too large for the skin when erect. It’s annoying.

Having done a years worth of research I’m getting it cut off, don’t expect the sensation to be any different as with studies that tends to be hear’say.

Masterbation will need a different approach though....after the 4 weeks of healing.

Four weeks!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

You go read up on fgm being religious you'll find it is.

The thumbs and nipples is the absurdity of cutting off a bodypart to appease the faith. Would you do it if it was expected of you is the question I asked and you can't even grasp the concept."

I don't have Facebook so I can't read up on it

You sound like Ed Gein, he use to cut nibbles and thumbs and wear them as necklaces.

Fgm is a culture thing in some African countries

No Holy book would say cut your nibbles and thumbs off unless your Ed Grin

Don't be ignorant all your life. Accept other peoples religion / culture

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

You go read up on fgm being religious you'll find it is.

The thumbs and nipples is the absurdity of cutting off a bodypart to appease the faith. Would you do it if it was expected of you is the question I asked and you can't even grasp the concept.

Islamic Shafi'i from Sunni Islam it as a requirement of faith it is obligatory. Shafi'i is one of four schools of Sunni jurisprudence.

It relies on the Qur'an and the Hadiths for Sharia.

Sharia law takes precedent in Islamic communities over the law of the countries they reside.

FGM conducted here is compulsory jail sentence when caught. But it doesn't stop families sending their daughters out of the country to be mutilated.

You are going of topic

It's about circumcision not fgm

I don't agree on fgm

Cut cock is so much better and cleaner, I refuse to go with anyone who is uncut

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

You go read up on fgm being religious you'll find it is.

The thumbs and nipples is the absurdity of cutting off a bodypart to appease the faith. Would you do it if it was expected of you is the question I asked and you can't even grasp the concept.

Correct

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

You go read up on fgm being religious you'll find it is.

The thumbs and nipples is the absurdity of cutting off a bodypart to appease the faith. Would you do it if it was expected of you is the question I asked and you can't even grasp the concept.

I don't have Facebook so I can't read up on it

You sound like Ed Gein, he use to cut nibbles and thumbs and wear them as necklaces.

Fgm is a culture thing in some African countries

No Holy book would say cut your nibbles and thumbs off unless your Ed Grin

Don't be ignorant all your life. Accept other peoples religion / culture "

See my previous post providing evidence of fgm in religion all you have to do is Google that yourself.

Your lack of understanding the concept of a religion asking you to cut skin of your Children for the sake of faith is ridiculous. Hence my use of thumbs and nipples, is skin of the penis not part of the body like thumbs and nipples. Wouldnt it be ridiculous to follow a religion that said cut your thumb off but you don't think it's ridiculous to follow one that says cut off foreskin.

it is mutilation when it isn't medically necessary no different to cutting off any other body part.

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By *cotFit4funMan
over a year ago

Kettering

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up"

Ive always thought that unless it's done for medical reasons then it's child abuse!

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By *ipplebarnyMan
over a year ago

milton keynes

I was circumcised as a baby I ever came inside a woman until I was 30 I used to last for hours which wasn’t always a good thing !

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By *uliette500Woman
over a year ago

Hull

"In the USA its standard depends on if parents want it and religion. It's not even close to FGM know about the subject before you generalise."

As someone in the medical profession (so I do know about these things) I don't see the difference.

FGM and circumcision both involve removal of part of the genitals. When done in children who cannot consent (unless needed for medical reasons) it is mutilation and should not be performed.

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By *oppolocosTV/TS
over a year ago

inverurie

Personally prefer uncut. If you want to get cut try googling circumcision gone bad, very scary.

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By *oppolocosTV/TS
over a year ago

inverurie

"In the USA its standard depends on if parents want it and religion. It's not even close to FGM know about the subject before you generalise.

As someone in the medical profession (so I do know about these things) I don't see the difference.

FGM and circumcision both involve removal of part of the genitals. When done in children who cannot consent (unless needed for medical reasons) it is mutilation and should not be performed. "

I totally agree when it comes to children, any form of FGM or circumcision should be banned unless there is a specific medical reason. As for adults, it's your body, your decision.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

You go read up on fgm being religious you'll find it is.

The thumbs and nipples is the absurdity of cutting off a bodypart to appease the faith. Would you do it if it was expected of you is the question I asked and you can't even grasp the concept.

I don't have Facebook so I can't read up on it

You sound like Ed Gein, he use to cut nibbles and thumbs and wear them as necklaces.

Fgm is a culture thing in some African countries

No Holy book would say cut your nibbles and thumbs off unless your Ed Grin

Don't be ignorant all your life. Accept other peoples religion / culture

See my previous post providing evidence of fgm in religion all you have to do is Google that yourself.

it is mutilation when it isn't medically necessary no different to cutting off any other body part."

Calm down Mrs Ed Gein

We are on about circumcision not fmg or thumbs and nipple

Your obsessed with thumbs, nipples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

You go read up on fgm being religious you'll find it is.

The thumbs and nipples is the absurdity of cutting off a bodypart to appease the faith. Would you do it if it was expected of you is the question I asked and you can't even grasp the concept.

I don't have Facebook so I can't read up on it

You sound like Ed Gein, he use to cut nibbles and thumbs and wear them as necklaces.

Fgm is a culture thing in some African countries

No Holy book would say cut your nibbles and thumbs off unless your Ed Grin

Don't be ignorant all your life. Accept other peoples religion / culture

See my previous post providing evidence of fgm in religion all you have to do is Google that yourself.

it is mutilation when it isn't medically necessary no different to cutting off any other body part."

P.s.

Plenty of people go about cutting boobs off to make them bigger

Needles in faces and lips, hips, bums, lipo all for vanity but that's OK

Be mindful of other people's religions and cultures

I know where you can get some thumbs, nipples for your necklace

You have to go abroad though

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By *100Man
over a year ago

Essex

I'm very happy with mine what do you think

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Don't be ignorant all your life. Accept other peoples religion / culture

See my previous post providing evidence of fgm in religion all you have to do is Google that yourself.

it is mutilation when it isn't medically necessary no different to cutting off any other body part.

P.s.

Plenty of people go about cutting boobs off to make them bigger

Needles in faces and lips, hips, bums, lipo all for vanity but that's OK

Be mindful of other people's religions and cultures

I know where you can get some thumbs, nipples for your necklace

You have to go abroad though

Something being part of another culture doesn't, in any way, make it implicitly OK. Wrong is still wrong. There are, of course, countless examples than can be given in this area, and many people in those cultures need protection from these traditions in very very real terms.

A comparison to botox see's just irrelevant at best? I don't recall and babies getting botox injections at birth.

I do think it's absolutely fascinating in principle how a culture will defend a practise *because* it's what they do, and have nothing but tradition to back it up with. Tradition is inherently a terrible thing to justify anything for. It can never ever be an argument in favour of anything with any moral judgement against it.

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By *100Man
over a year ago

Essex

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By *layfulAussieMan
over a year ago

Sydney

"I'm circumcised and feel everything no sensitivity lost.

How would you know? You don't have a reference penis...

Love the idea of a reference penis. Of course, it would have to be to a British kitemark standard, now that we're free of the tyranny of EU genitalia regulations."

Would love to be your reference penis

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"Don't be ignorant all your life. Accept other peoples religion / culture

See my previous post providing evidence of fgm in religion all you have to do is Google that yourself.

it is mutilation when it isn't medically necessary no different to cutting off any other body part.

P.s.

Plenty of people go about cutting boobs off to make them bigger

Needles in faces and lips, hips, bums, lipo all for vanity but that's OK

Be mindful of other people's religions and cultures

I know where you can get some thumbs, nipples for your necklace

You have to go abroad though

A comparison to botox see's just irrelevant at best? I don't recall and babies getting botox injections at birth.

In principle, of course, no one can defend non medical body modification on children who are too young to consent.

However because infant male circumcision is so important to certain religions, I think legislators take the view that it would be more trouble than its worth to do anything about it.

Obviously those of us not brought up in those religions think it is ludicrous, but I see the force of the pragmatic argument.

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"In principle, of course, no one can defend non medical body modification on children who are too young to consent.

However because infant male circumcision is so important to certain religions, I think legislators take the view that it would be more trouble than its worth to do anything about it.

Obviously those of us not brought up in those religions think it is ludicrous, but I see the force of the pragmatic argument. "

I wonder what the actual perspectives would be though in many / most US states though. From afar I see legislation being created, not even upheld, based purely on religious and traditional grounds. I have the feeling that in, say, Alabama, the *genuine* reasons for this sort of mutilation not being barred would not be based on the reaction of "the people", or the logistics around it I always get the feeling that the government there would be as supportive of it in it's own right as culture makes it a thing. It's only the absurd articles that get this far, but state legislatures seem to be very much proud to be a result of their own non-questionsing culture most of the time.

Cue my attempt to demonstrate that the USA is actually a quasi-religion...

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By *arry WindsorMan
over a year ago

Heaton Park Manchester

Just because it's a religious ritual doesn't make it necessary or right.

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

You go read up on fgm being religious you'll find it is.

The thumbs and nipples is the absurdity of cutting off a bodypart to appease the faith. Would you do it if it was expected of you is the question I asked and you can't even grasp the concept.

I don't have Facebook so I can't read up on it

You sound like Ed Gein, he use to cut nibbles and thumbs and wear them as necklaces.

Fgm is a culture thing in some African countries

No Holy book would say cut your nibbles and thumbs off unless your Ed Grin

Don't be ignorant all your life. Accept other peoples religion / culture

See my previous post providing evidence of fgm in religion all you have to do is Google that yourself.

it is mutilation when it isn't medically necessary no different to cutting off any other body part.

P.s.

Plenty of people go about cutting boobs off to make them bigger

Needles in faces and lips, hips, bums, lipo all for vanity but that's OK

Be mindful of other people's religions and cultures

I know where you can get some thumbs, nipples for your necklace

You have to go abroad though

Be mindful?! I have more understanding of other people's religions than you do. Using abuse as tradition or religious reasoning is wrong. No matter which religion is doing it.

I should be mindful of women being executed via stoning or beheading because they were r@ped and men get away without a problem. So everyone should be mindful let them get on with it??? You're an ignorant person who has no empathy or consideration for others.

You talk of people doing things for vanity but they are adults who choose to do it to themselves! They consent to it. An infant or child forced to have skin removed which isn't medically necessary hasn't consented.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What are peoples thoughts on cut or uncut. I am currently uncut but thinking of having it cut."

Don't unless medical reason why

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By *100Man
over a year ago

Essex

Mine was done when I was 6 as I was in pain for a few weeks with a tight foreskin

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By *ait88Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

What an interesting thread this has become.

People don’t seem to understand some of the basics facts about “culture”.

There are no such things in the Universe or in Nature as “Right”, “Wrong” and “Morals”.

All “rights”, “wrongs” and “morals” are cultural inventions which enable very large groups of people to co-operate in societies.

FGM is morally right in the cultures that practise it. And the people in those cultures believe that our culture is morally wrong, and for excellent reasons. Here are just three of them:

1. It is morally wrong that the people of a culture stuff their children full of American fast food so that they get fat and die young.

2. It is morally wrong that parents are not held responsible when their children are caught carrying deadly weapons around our streets.

3. It is morally wrong that people put their parents in “homes” instead of caring for them just as they were cared for when they were children.

People posting to this thread seem to believe that it would be morally right to impose their set of “rights”, “wrongs” and “morals” on people of different cultures, who have different sets of “rights”, “wrongs” and “morals”.

And so do the Islamic jihadist and terrorists.

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By *aveed74Man
over a year ago

a round and a bout Midlands

"I'm circumcised and feel everything no sensitivity lost.

How would you know? You don't have a reference penis..."

Good answer!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm cut, no sensation lost, nice n clean too

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I'm cut, no sensation lost, nice n clean too"

Your foreskin is as sensitive as it always was? You really sure about that..?

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"What an interesting thread this has become.

People don’t seem to understand some of the basics facts about “culture”.

There are no such things in the Universe or in Nature as “Right”, “Wrong” and “Morals”.

All “rights”, “wrongs” and “morals” are cultural inventions which enable very large groups of people to co-operate in societies.

FGM is morally right in the cultures that practise it. And the people in those cultures believe that our culture is morally wrong, and for excellent reasons. Here are just three of them:

1. It is morally wrong that the people of a culture stuff their children full of American fast food so that they get fat and die young.

2. It is morally wrong that parents are not held responsible when their children are caught carrying deadly weapons around our streets.

3. It is morally wrong that people put their parents in “homes” instead of caring for them just as they were cared for when they were children.

And so do the Islamic jihadist and terrorists.

Some excellent points there, of course. We can see from our own culture that morality is a moving target with a culture though, not just between different ones. So whilst I get what you mean, many many people in FGM permissive cultures still believe its morally wrong. And if course vice versa on ours in a few edge cases...

For my part I would say I, like basically everyone, talk my own frame of reference by default and it can be hard to zoom out of that. At some point though, zoom out too far and you've no reference points to discuss.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely no difference whatsoever in the feeling cut and proud ??

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"What an interesting thread this has become.

People don’t seem to understand some of the basics facts about “culture”.

There are no such things in the Universe or in Nature as “Right”, “Wrong” and “Morals”.

All “rights”, “wrongs” and “morals” are cultural inventions which enable very large groups of people to co-operate in societies.

FGM is morally right in the cultures that practise it. And the people in those cultures believe that our culture is morally wrong, and for excellent reasons. Here are just three of them:

1. It is morally wrong that the people of a culture stuff their children full of American fast food so that they get fat and die young.

2. It is morally wrong that parents are not held responsible when their children are caught carrying deadly weapons around our streets.

3. It is morally wrong that people put their parents in “homes” instead of caring for them just as they were cared for when they were children.

And so do the Islamic jihadist and terrorists.

Entering the realms of philosophical ethics. I would say there is a Kantian argument against ritual circumcision that is irrefutable deontologically speaking. Id also say that whilst morality would appear to be subjective this isnt necessarily the case and moral relativism has a lot of problems. Some moralities are more moral than others

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By *oppolocosTV/TS
over a year ago

inverurie

"I'm cut, no sensation lost, nice n clean too"

I can only say that some years ago, due to an infection, my foreskin was trapped back for 3-4 days. I could barely walk due to how sensitive the head of my cock was. Thankfully things cleared up and I never needed more extreme treatment like circumcision.

As for cleanliness, it's a myth. Your cock is designed to have a foreskin to be naturally lubricated.

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By *oppolocosTV/TS
over a year ago

inverurie

"What an interesting thread this has become.

People don’t seem to understand some of the basics facts about “culture”.

There are no such things in the Universe or in Nature as “Right”, “Wrong” and “Morals”.

All “rights”, “wrongs” and “morals” are cultural inventions which enable very large groups of people to co-operate in societies.

FGM is morally right in the cultures that practise it. And the people in those cultures believe that our culture is morally wrong, and for excellent reasons. Here are just three of them:

1. It is morally wrong that the people of a culture stuff their children full of American fast food so that they get fat and die young.

2. It is morally wrong that parents are not held responsible when their children are caught carrying deadly weapons around our streets.

3. It is morally wrong that people put their parents in “homes” instead of caring for them just as they were cared for when they were children.

And so do the Islamic jihadist and terrorists.

What a load of preposterous wank. It used to be considered morally correct to hold slaves, to sacrifice people to the gods. Civilisation moves on and inflicting unnecessary pain and potential long term harm (it really does happen) is child abuse. You want to be circumcised experience FGM for religious reasons, do it when you're an adult. Leave kids to make their own decisions once they are an adult.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On a kid for religious reasons or even pre emtive medical reasons it is GENITAL MUTILATION and anyone involved in those cases should be locked up

Totally agree. Children cannot consent and it is no different to fgm

Most Americans are circumcised it's a way of life

Just because it's a way of life doesn't make it right.

It's the difference between legally right and morally right.

And Muslims and Jews get circumcised when they are babies..

It's their religion

Just because it's religious reasons it makes it right? Fgm is done and they say it's for religious reasons does it make it right?

Dosent say in the Holy book about cutting of nipples or thumbs.

Don't know what book you been reading..fgm is a culture thing not religion..

I don't agree with that fgm

It's so the woman dosent feel any pleasure they just baby machines

I never said any holy book stated to cut thumbs or nipples off but if it did would you?

The traditions of Holy books are interpreted yet people practice these traditions because they are told it's fact and demanded of for faith.

The it's also been interpreted as being clean by removing bodily hair and including the shaving of the face and cutting finger nails in the sunnah

What is the difference between religion and tribal tradition? Faith in the ancestors word. To doubt their reasons would be to end the tradition.

No holy book would say cut your thumbs or nipples of

Fgm is a culture thing

Go and read upon circumcisions and get some knowledge

You go read up on fgm being religious you'll find it is.

The thumbs and nipples is the absurdity of cutting off a bodypart to appease the faith. Would you do it if it was expected of you is the question I asked and you can't even grasp the concept.

I don't have Facebook so I can't read up on it

You sound like Ed Gein, he use to cut nibbles and thumbs and wear them as necklaces.

Fgm is a culture thing in some African countries

No Holy book would say cut your nibbles and thumbs off unless your Ed Grin

Don't be ignorant all your life. Accept other peoples religion / culture

See my previous post providing evidence of fgm in religion all you have to do is Google that yourself.

it is mutilation when it isn't medically necessary no different to cutting off any other body part.

P.s.

Plenty of people go about cutting boobs off to make them bigger

Needles in faces and lips, hips, bums, lipo all for vanity but that's OK

Be mindful of other people's religions and cultures

I know where you can get some thumbs, nipples for your necklace

You have to go abroad though

Be mindful?! I have more understanding of other people's religions than you do. Using abuse as tradition or religious reasoning is wrong. No matter which religion is doing it.

Mrs Ed Gein your going of track again

Your just blabbering now, your just going round in circles

Majority men on this topic are cut and all fine about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely no difference whatsoever in the feeling cut and proud ??"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im now cut due to medical advice several years ago, i do like it.

However everyone has they're own preferences etc.

I wouldn't of had it done otherwise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm circumcised and feel everything no sensitivity lost.

How would you know? You don't have a reference penis...

Love the idea of a reference penis. Of course, it would have to be to a British kitemark standard, now that we're free of the tyranny of EU genitalia regulations."

Awesome, a good laugh to start the day. Thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I should of been circumcised as a kid but I never had it done. I now have at tight foreskin as a result.

Recently had some of my foreskin removed to ease the pressure on the head of my penis. The agony of erections during the recovery was horrendous.

Keep your foreskin OP.

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By *ait88Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

You’ve missed the point, mate!

Deontological (rule-based) ethics and consequentialism are opposing ethical concepts dreamed-up by philosophers in our western society. Many societies don’t even have philosophers, much less opposing ethical concepts.

My point is that what we regard as being right and wrong is different from what people in other cultures regard as being right and wrong. And we should not attempt to force our beliefs on people in different cultures.

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By *ait88Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

"What a load of preposterous wank. It used to be considered morally correct to hold slaves, to sacrifice people to the gods. Civilisation moves on and inflicting unnecessary pain and potential long term harm (it really does happen) is child abuse. You want to be circumcised experience FGM for religious reasons, do it when you're an adult. Leave kids to make their own decisions once they are an adult. "

The point that you are missing is that FGM isn’t child abuse in the countries where it is practised. The people in those countries have different views about what is “right”, what is “wrong”, and what is “moral”.

Why does FGM exist? I don’t know, but a possible reason could be as follows;

An area of a continent has become over-populated. There are too many people, and too few resources to support them.

The people of the various tribes and states are constantly fighting wars against their neighbours in attempts to grab more resources.

There is therefore a general shortage of virile young men, because they are the ones who get killed in the battles.

In order to give every woman the chance to have a man to support her and give her children, the rulers create a religious law that states that every man must take as many wives as he can afford to support.

But it is difficult for a man to keep multiple wives sexually satisfied, so there is all sorts of domestic trouble and strife.

So the rulers make another religious law that states that every girl must undergo FGM as a baby. This means that the wives get far less pleasure from sexual intercourse, and make far fewer demands on their Lord and Master. Result: domestic bliss in the harems.

An individual woman will not think that FGM is wrong because she isn’t aware of the resulting loss of sexual pleasure. From the point of view of the whole tribes and states, it is right, because it enables many more women to be supported by husbands and have children.

The basic reasons for the religious laws are probably long gone, but FGM and harems linger on because the people believe they are right. Eradicating them could cause cultural collapse.

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Why does FGM exist? I don’t know, but a possible reason could be as follows;

*STUFF HERE*

Eradicating them could cause cultural collapse.

I appreciate your position but even in this example, you've spent 245 words building a potential, theoretical reason for something existing and then 6 at the end deciding that it's probably important and unchangeable. Nah.

What should be appreciated, I'd suggest, is that there is a massively strong link between the developmental status of a country and the progressive / socialist politics of it. The more a country develops economically, the more their social attitude moves to the "left". Socialised healthcare creeps in and the likes.

So you could be correct on the house of cards you've created, absolutely, and changing that ONE piece of the jigsaw somehow (how??) *could* be destabilising, if / as / when these countries develop it's basically a given that their views will evolve to see many of their customs as wrong. We certainly did it throughout the industrial revolution and into today, and it's very possible to see other countries follow in these well trodden footsteps.

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By *oppolocosTV/TS
over a year ago

inverurie

Well you're moving on from preposterous wank to include racism now. Child abuse is child abuse whether it's deemed legal in a particular country or not. Your "theories" as to why there may be FGM in certain countries is also nonsense. FGM is about controlling women's sex lives by destroying sex as a pleasurable experience, in many cases making it extremely painful.

There are many forms of abuse to children, adults, animals around the world that the overwhelming majority of this country would never accept. That it may be deemed legal or acceptable under some religions is no reason to argue that we should say it's okay.

If an adult wants to be circumcised because they like the look or for religious reasons that is their choice. Nobody should mutilate another person's body without their permission and a child cannot give such permission.

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By *ugardadcleanerMan
over a year ago

cirencester

Hollie was undecided until an Egyptian guy with a thick cut cock. Now she wants more of same and there speaks a girl with a lot experience over the years!!!

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem

Why does FGM exist? I don’t know, but a possible reason could be as follows;

An area of a continent has become over-populated. There are too many people, and too few resources to support them.

The people of the various tribes and states are constantly fighting wars against their neighbours in attempts to grab more resources.

There is therefore a general shortage of virile young men, because they are the ones who get killed in the battles.

But it is difficult for a man to keep multiple wives sexually satisfied, so there is all sorts of domestic trouble and strife.

The basic reasons for the religious laws are probably long gone, but FGM and harems linger on because the people believe they are right. Eradicating them could cause cultural collapse.

Just so you know fgm isnt generally done as a baby it's typically done from the ages of 7 to 15, without anaesthetic.

No one has the right to do this to them.

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Well you're moving on from preposterous wank to include racism now. Child abuse is child abuse whether it's deemed legal in a particular country or not. Your "theories" as to why there may be FGM in certain countries is also nonsense. FGM is about controlling women's sex lives by destroying sex as a pleasurable experience, in many cases making it extremely painful.

So FGM has been mentioned to be too extreme compared to Circumcision. Valid or not, how about going milder, and within "our" culture... ear piercing.

Personally I think it's just as immoral to pierce a babies ears as to circumcise them. Exactly the same issues, the same lack of consent, even if the consequences are far far milder. Wrong is still wrong.

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