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"Have any of you who are in relationships, either playing together or separately, been affected by getting emotionally involved with a swinging partner? How common is it & how do you avoid it? " i care about the friends i meet here, but i suppose because i am with my soul mate i dont worry about romantically falling for someone. i do believe there are many forms of love tho, i have strong feelings for Sir, different to the ones to those i have for kev i do not see emotions as being a problem, confusing want and need and possessiveness are the problem, swinging does not mean being cold...it means being free and allowing others to be. | |||
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"Ah, seems like it's more common than I thought it would be; I guess approaching swinging with a degree of naivety doesn't help. The trouble is that even starting out with the intention of only having one-off meets, it's so hard to resist repeat meets if you really click with someone It's hard to go back once that can of worms is open..." That depends though. If you like him, and he likes you, and everything else is rosy, I say go for it. My problem usually comes about because they don't like me as much as I like them. | |||
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"Dont ask me. Told myself id never fall in love again and i think im falling for my fb. What's to do? ;( (sorry i know, neither use nor ornament)" Hope you're ok fakeblonde. Are you attached then? | |||
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"Ah, seems like it's more common than I thought it would be; I guess approaching swinging with a degree of naivety doesn't help. The trouble is that even starting out with the intention of only having one-off meets, it's so hard to resist repeat meets if you really click with someone It's hard to go back once that can of worms is open... That depends though. If you like him, and he likes you, and everything else is rosy, I say go for it. My problem usually comes about because they don't like me as much as I like them. " i agree...and i hate this idea that swingers are emotionless robots...it isnt wrong to like someone, just to decieve | |||
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"Dont ask me. Told myself id never fall in love again and i think im falling for my fb. What's to do? ;( (sorry i know, neither use nor ornament)" talk to him...he may feel the same, if not he needs to know | |||
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"Ah, seems like it's more common than I thought it would be; I guess approaching swinging with a degree of naivety doesn't help. The trouble is that even starting out with the intention of only having one-off meets, it's so hard to resist repeat meets if you really click with someone It's hard to go back once that can of worms is open... That depends though. If you like him, and he likes you, and everything else is rosy, I say go for it. My problem usually comes about because they don't like me as much as I like them. " That would be fine except that I'm already in a relationship... | |||
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"Ah, seems like it's more common than I thought it would be; I guess approaching swinging with a degree of naivety doesn't help. The trouble is that even starting out with the intention of only having one-off meets, it's so hard to resist repeat meets if you really click with someone It's hard to go back once that can of worms is open... That depends though. If you like him, and he likes you, and everything else is rosy, I say go for it. My problem usually comes about because they don't like me as much as I like them. That would be fine except that I'm already in a relationship..." There is that, yes. In which case time to curtail the meets I'm afraid. | |||
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"This is my thing with this site. Not done much of this before or been on sites like this but I am a firm believer that once you start having sex with someone more than a few times emmotions become involved for one person or both. Sods law I guess!" i hatr to get into what is a twue swinger...but as the scene gets more popular i think lots are getting into it who are less able to seperate sex and emotions...there a a few ppl i have sex with on a regular basis...its not the sex that ppl fall for but the person. | |||
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"Ah, seems like it's more common than I thought it would be; I guess approaching swinging with a degree of naivety doesn't help. The trouble is that even starting out with the intention of only having one-off meets, it's so hard to resist repeat meets if you really click with someone It's hard to go back once that can of worms is open... That depends though. If you like him, and he likes you, and everything else is rosy, I say go for it. My problem usually comes about because they don't like me as much as I like them. That would be fine except that I'm already in a relationship... There is that, yes. In which case time to curtail the meets I'm afraid." walk away...your relationship should be fulfilling those emotional needs, if its not try to work out why. | |||
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"its not the sex that ppl fall for but the person." Eeeeexactly! if anyone has a spare soulmate though let me know. | |||
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"its not the sex that ppl fall for but the person. Eeeeexactly! if anyone has a spare soulmate though let me know. " u can have kev on champions league nights...then i can watch some tele | |||
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"its not the sex that ppl fall for but the person. Eeeeexactly! if anyone has a spare soulmate though let me know. u can have kev on champions league nights...then i can watch some tele " LOL its a deal. I hate footie. Save me some chips n dips though! | |||
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"its not the sex that ppl fall for but the person. Eeeeexactly! if anyone has a spare soulmate though let me know. u can have kev on champions league nights...then i can watch some tele LOL its a deal. I hate footie. Save me some chips n dips though!" be really nice to me and i will let u in on our you want to watch footie you do the ironing deal | |||
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"its not the sex that ppl fall for but the person. Eeeeexactly! if anyone has a spare soulmate though let me know. u can have kev on champions league nights...then i can watch some tele LOL its a deal. I hate footie. Save me some chips n dips though! be really nice to me and i will let u in on our you want to watch footie you do the ironing deal" I get invited to the BEST parties! | |||
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"Dont ask me. Told myself id never fall in love again and i think im falling for my fb. What's to do? ;( (sorry i know, neither use nor ornament) Hope you're ok fakeblonde. Are you attached then? " nope im not attached was for over twelve years kids blah blah but fell out of love. Still rips my guts now. That's why i dont wanna go down that rd again. Men hey? Pppfff | |||
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"Dont ask me. Told myself id never fall in love again and i think im falling for my fb. What's to do? ;( (sorry i know, neither use nor ornament) talk to him...he may feel the same, if not he needs to know" i know he feels something for me. But I've told him im cold and switched all that emotion shit off. He doesn't believe it like but think it keeps him guessing. God im whinging now. Ffs. Give your head a wobble debs | |||
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"This is my thing with this site. Not done much of this before or been on sites like this but I am a firm believer that once you start having sex with someone more than a few times emmotions become involved for one person or both. Sods law I guess! i hatr to get into what is a twue swinger...but as the scene gets more popular i think lots are getting into it who are less able to seperate sex and emotions...there a a few ppl i have sex with on a regular basis...its not the sex that ppl fall for but the person." See that's the thing...I thought I was doing ok keeping the sex & emotion separate. If anything it was the guys who struggled with that part! To me it was the different, exciting new sex that was the addictive part but I suppose that gets clouded when you also enjoy that persons company. | |||
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"nice to see some honesty on here, does anyone truely seperate sex and emotion, " I do now. | |||
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"men are wankers, well most of us, i had an affair in my last relationship because my ex never made me feel wanted just worthless,i mistaked sex for emotion ,biggest mistake i ever made, now i just fuck without feeling because its too hard to let my feelings go again xx" hugs x | |||
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"Ive just a few days ago parted ways with my FB, we had been meeting regular for 16months, id become attached to him and he took advantage of how i felt i feel foolish now, hurt and annoyed but hey ho, i'll live x" Sorry to hear that x | |||
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"Ive just a few days ago parted ways with my FB, we had been meeting regular for 16months, id become attached to him and he took advantage of how i felt i feel foolish now, hurt and annoyed but hey ho, i'll live x Sorry to hear that x " Thanks, will be fine and i wont be making the same mistake again thats for sure! | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx" Not buying that I'm afraid. I might have made some bad relationship decisions in the past and have decided to stay single, but humans are not by nature monogamous. That's been forced on us by outside influences. | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx Not buying that I'm afraid. I might have made some bad relationship decisions in the past and have decided to stay single, but humans are not by nature monogamous. That's been forced on us by outside influences." See I'm tending to agree with this now I've bitten the apple. I don't know if I'm a naturally monogomous person. I think it's a social construct that doesn't necessarily fit everyone. But then I love being in a relationship too. I guess I just want to have my cake & eat it! | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx Not buying that I'm afraid. I might have made some bad relationship decisions in the past and have decided to stay single, but humans are not by nature monogamous. That's been forced on us by outside influences. See I'm tending to agree with this now I've bitten the apple. I don't know if I'm a naturally monogomous person. I think it's a social construct that doesn't necessarily fit everyone. But then I love being in a relationship too. I guess I just want to have my cake & eat it! " The problem is its not just your feelings and the feelings of your FB to consider. You have someone else to consider. I can shag my merry way round Fab without a twinge because there is no SO in my life to hurt. It's different for others. | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx Not buying that I'm afraid. I might have made some bad relationship decisions in the past and have decided to stay single, but humans are not by nature monogamous. That's been forced on us by outside influences. See I'm tending to agree with this now I've bitten the apple. I don't know if I'm a naturally monogomous person. I think it's a social construct that doesn't necessarily fit everyone. But then I love being in a relationship too. I guess I just want to have my cake & eat it! The problem is its not just your feelings and the feelings of your FB to consider. You have someone else to consider. I can shag my merry way round Fab without a twinge because there is no SO in my life to hurt. It's different for others." Absolutely. I guess you have to be a rock solid couple to not get burned. | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx" Emotional faithfulness to one partner is paramour to me and I will fight tooth and nail for that But physically? Sorry I disagree that the human race was ever meant to be physically monogomous I also feel that to swing successfully you have to be emotionally strong not emotionally damaged | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx Not buying that I'm afraid. I might have made some bad relationship decisions in the past and have decided to stay single, but humans are not by nature monogamous. That's been forced on us by outside influences. See I'm tending to agree with this now I've bitten the apple. I don't know if I'm a naturally monogomous person. I think it's a social construct that doesn't necessarily fit everyone. But then I love being in a relationship too. I guess I just want to have my cake & eat it! " mmmmm cake | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx Not buying that I'm afraid. I might have made some bad relationship decisions in the past and have decided to stay single, but humans are not by nature monogamous. That's been forced on us by outside influences. See I'm tending to agree with this now I've bitten the apple. I don't know if I'm a naturally monogomous person. I think it's a social construct that doesn't necessarily fit everyone. But then I love being in a relationship too. I guess I just want to have my cake & eat it! The problem is its not just your feelings and the feelings of your FB to consider. You have someone else to consider. I can shag my merry way round Fab without a twinge because there is no SO in my life to hurt. It's different for others. Absolutely. I guess you have to be a rock solid couple to not get burned. " Being rock solid is about knowing one another and understanding yourself just as much. Hard when you get intimate with someone not to develop some sort of bond - even if it's only friendship. You are allowed to have feelings for people - feel sorry for them when things go wrong in their lives and feel happy for them when they have successes. We'd be cold fish if we didn't, and I'd never fancy being one of those. It doesn't necessarily have to lead to the 'dreaded 'L' word' you know... only if you wanted it to... Wolf | |||
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"Absolutely. I guess you have to be a rock solid couple to not get burned. Being rock solid is about knowing one another and understanding yourself just as much. Hard when you get intimate with someone not to develop some sort of bond - even if it's only friendship. You are allowed to have feelings for people - feel sorry for them when things go wrong in their lives and feel happy for them when they have successes. We'd be cold fish if we didn't, and I'd never fancy being one of those. It doesn't necessarily have to lead to the 'dreaded 'L' word' you know... only if you wanted it to... Wolf " Minor religion warning !!!!!! You have been warned. I remember being in church and the priest was talking about the L word. Basically saying it was a very poor word, it's used alot in the bible, but the original greek or hebrew ( idunno) had 6 or 7 words, but the English narrowed it down to 1. there was love, for a brother, love for a partner, love of a friend etc etc etc, There is no problem loving someone. I loved our pet rabbit, but I did not want to run off with it and leave the wife and kids. So surely lusting after a swinger is natural. If you where having sex and not lusting then there would be something wrong. | |||
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"Good old wiki. Agape, Eros, Philia, Storge. Eros and Philia would be the keys to swinging if it goes to Agape then you may have issues. " if it goes to agape you need a smaller buttplug Wolf | |||
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"Good old wiki. Agape, Eros, Philia, Storge. Eros and Philia would be the keys to swinging if it goes to Agape then you may have issues. if it goes to agape you need a smaller buttplug Wolf " That did make me giggle. | |||
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"Absolutely. I guess you have to be a rock solid couple to not get burned. Being rock solid is about knowing one another and understanding yourself just as much. Hard when you get intimate with someone not to develop some sort of bond - even if it's only friendship. You are allowed to have feelings for people - feel sorry for them when things go wrong in their lives and feel happy for them when they have successes. We'd be cold fish if we didn't, and I'd never fancy being one of those. It doesn't necessarily have to lead to the 'dreaded 'L' word' you know... only if you wanted it to... Wolf Minor religion warning !!!!!! You have been warned. I remember being in church and the priest was talking about the L word. Basically saying it was a very poor word, it's used alot in the bible, but the original greek or hebrew ( idunno) had 6 or 7 words, but the English narrowed it down to 1. there was love, for a brother, love for a partner, love of a friend etc etc etc, There is no problem loving someone. I loved our pet rabbit, but I did not want to run off with it and leave the wife and kids. So surely lusting after a swinger is natural. If you where having sex and not lusting then there would be something wrong. " i have written several times of the paucity of the English word love...there is eros,sexual love,phillios,which probably applies to swingers, love between a community, or shared interests...aristotle defined it as needing familiarity and equality. Then there is agape, used often by Christians, brotherly or sisterly love, it defines how i feel for other subs i am close too, ppl who understand without explanation how i am feeling and share my highs and lows...interestingly bdsm seems to recognise this with the convention of subs calling each other brother and sister. Then there is storge, family love. Feelings are never the problem...knowing their origin and being honest about them is what matters. | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx" i think you know little about nature and nothing about swinging | |||
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"Feelings are never the problem...knowing their origin and being honest about them is what matters." Precisely. Think the BDSM world has a lot to teach the swinging world to be honest Wolf | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx Emotional faithfulness to one partner is paramour to me and I will fight tooth and nail for that But physically? Sorry I disagree that the human race was ever meant to be physically monogomous I also feel that to swing successfully you have to be emotionally strong not emotionally damaged" we arent, evolutionary biology shows us monogamy is a modern idea imposed as a control...there is a reason women concieve better with competing sperm | |||
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"Feelings are never the problem...knowing their origin and being honest about them is what matters. Precisely. Think the BDSM world has a lot to teach the swinging world to be honest Wolf " meh...its just as full of loonies | |||
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" Absolutely. I guess you have to be a rock solid couple to not get burned. " If your relationship is not rock solid, you need to work on that....... and NOT swing. Swinging should never be used as a 'fix' to a less than stable relationship because one part of the couple will end up getting hurt. We've had problems in the past with others getting too close to Jason..... which is why we only ever do one off's. Most of the time, I don't even want to know their names. NSA sex to us, is just that, NSA. No emotion just raw sex, and you don't get that from repeat meets. | |||
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"Just an observation, but isn't it interesting that the vast majority of posts on this subject are from single women or the women from couples profiles. I do believe that, on average, male sexuality differs fundamentally from female. Men are far less likely to feel an emotional attachment. Yes I know there will be exceptions and many will be 'quoted' in response to this post, but, as an average, I think my point will stand. " possibly. but then the thread was entitled emotional attachment, social conditioning means many men will pass it by | |||
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"Just an observation, but isn't it interesting that the vast majority of posts on this subject are from single women or the women from couples profiles. I do believe that, on average, male sexuality differs fundamentally from female. Men are far less likely to feel an emotional attachment. Yes I know there will be exceptions and many will be 'quoted' in response to this post, but, as an average, I think my point will stand. possibly. but then the thread was entitled emotional attachment, social conditioning means many men will pass it by" I'm reading for two... pmsl Wolf | |||
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"Just an observation, but isn't it interesting that the vast majority of posts on this subject are from single women or the women from couples profiles. I do believe that, on average, male sexuality differs fundamentally from female. Men are far less likely to feel an emotional attachment. Yes I know there will be exceptions and many will be 'quoted' in response to this post, but, as an average, I think my point will stand. " I agree with that I'm in the sometimes unenviable position of being in the middle emotionally because my bisexuality is that strong it also affects my emotional perception as well as my sexual responses (yes lads I nearly understand women) xx | |||
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"Just an observation, but isn't it interesting that the vast majority of posts on this subject are from single women or the women from couples profiles. I do believe that, on average, male sexuality differs fundamentally from female. Men are far less likely to feel an emotional attachment. Yes I know there will be exceptions and many will be 'quoted' in response to this post, but, as an average, I think my point will stand. I agree with that I'm in the sometimes unenviable position of being in the middle emotionally because my bisexuality is that strong it also affects my emotional perception as well as my sexual responses (yes lads I nearly understand women) xx" ha...dont get cocky kid | |||
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"(yes lads I nearly understand women) xx" I'm just having a job with the psychic bit Soapy... lol Wolf | |||
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"nice to see some honesty on here, does anyone truely seperate sex and emotion, " Yes some of us do... I often have regular guys... But tend to lose them when they realise that while they may feel something for me... I don't for them... I even had one try to tell me that I couldn't have sex like that if I didn't care.. I offered to show him with the next random guy... We no longer talk and he's left the site... My relationship gives me everything I need emotionally... We have others for fun not because anything is lacking... It's all an addition... Yes sometimes people fall for others... That's life... But I think only if your deep down looking. Cali | |||
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"nice to see some honesty on here, does anyone truely seperate sex and emotion, Yes some of us do... I often have regular guys... But tend to lose them when they realise that while they may feel something for me... I don't for them... I even had one try to tell me that I couldn't have sex like that if I didn't care.. I offered to show him with the next random guy... We no longer talk and he's left the site... My relationship gives me everything I need emotionally... We have others for fun not because anything is lacking... It's all an addition... Yes sometimes people fall for others... That's life... But I think only if your deep down looking. Cali " | |||
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"Just an observation, but isn't it interesting that the vast majority of posts on this subject are from single women or the women from couples profiles. I do believe that, on average, male sexuality differs fundamentally from female. Men are far less likely to feel an emotional attachment. Yes I know there will be exceptions and many will be 'quoted' in response to this post, but, as an average, I think my point will stand. " Shall i tell you something, i used to play with married guys. Ive never had so much trouble from anyone as i have had over the years with married guys, saying they loved me, wanting to leave their wives. Its just one of the reasons i choose not to play with married guys. Never had a problem with single guys. | |||
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"Just an observation, but isn't it interesting that the vast majority of posts on this subject are from single women or the women from couples profiles. I do believe that, on average, male sexuality differs fundamentally from female. Men are far less likely to feel an emotional attachment. Yes I know there will be exceptions and many will be 'quoted' in response to this post, but, as an average, I think my point will stand. Shall i tell you something, i used to play with married guys. Ive never had so much trouble from anyone as i have had over the years with married guys, saying they loved me, wanting to leave their wives. Its just one of the reasons i choose not to play with married guys. Never had a problem with single guys." informs our decision too | |||
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"I like to be able to play with someone, have a good time, then wave goodbye, without contact with each other until it is time to meet up again. I do not wish to hear about how his day went, or for him to hear about what kind of day I have had. When I come home after a hard day's work, I do not wish to speak to anyone or hear anyone speaking except to give my pets some TLC. I value my independence too much to be able to fit into a conventional relationship again. I do miss certain intimacy such as going to bed and waking up in someone's arms. However, I would rather be alone than having to put up with the presence, needs and wants of another person that will cramp my style and freedom. " see, i'd almost agree with all of this, except i never want to share my bed with anyone after sex, i prefer them to leave after and go home, and i hate someone trying to cuddle me! i'm not a cuddles type of person | |||
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"If you are falling for them, you must tell them, as they might be quite happy with the NSA relationship that you have." If you meant me, no it's not quite like that, it's a slightly different scenario. | |||
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"Great thread. I think the keyword here is Honesty. Not with those around you but to yourself. Many confuse lust and love. We can tell our partners and swing friends one something but it doesn't make it 100% true. " Honesty, to yourself and others, | |||
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"Great thread. I think the keyword here is Honesty. Not with those around you but to yourself. Many confuse lust and love. We can tell our partners and swing friends one something but it doesn't make it 100% true. " Honesty, to yourself and others, | |||
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"I like to be able to play with someone, have a good time, then wave goodbye, without contact with each other until it is time to meet up again. I do not wish to hear about how his day went, or for him to hear about what kind of day I have had. When I come home after a hard day's work, I do not wish to speak to anyone or hear anyone speaking except to give my pets some TLC. I value my independence too much to be able to fit into a conventional relationship again. I do miss certain intimacy such as going to bed and waking up in someone's arms. However, I would rather be alone than having to put up with the presence, needs and wants of another person that will cramp my style and freedom. " Pearl I feel exactly the same. I was divorced nearly 5 years ago My ex was quite controlling, I would get all the talk of how bad a day she had just had at work never asked how my day was. Back to the OP's original question though. I enjoy meeting new people from Fab, have made some great friends but actually value the fact that we can have pleasure together, then do our own thing. I have feelings for all the people I meet and do wish them well. I think the time to step away is when your feelings change from lust to love. I think thats when you risk getting too attached. | |||
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"Oh god tell me about it, ive been in love with my FB for about 9 years now, even tried 4 years apart while i had a vanilla relationship but couldnt get him outta my head (theres a Kylie song in there somewhere lol!!!) Im not use nor ornament either " Ps We both stopped our vanilla relationships but he has now decided he actually likes being single, now we are both single.... go figure | |||
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"some people may take this comment as sexist but isnt it natural for a women to get emotionally attached to people they sleep with? It's only hardened women who are happy with sleeping with guys and not feeling anyway about them after. That and women who sleep with people by mistake i.e too d*unk, clouded judgement etc" he fell for me and i believe his twaddle i just got off the attention | |||
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"some people may take this comment as sexist but isnt it natural for a women to get emotionally attached to people they sleep with? It's only hardened women who are happy with sleeping with guys and not feeling anyway about them after. That and women who sleep with people by mistake i.e too d*unk, clouded judgement etc" No it isn't 'natural' for women to become attached, any more than with men. No, women aren't 'hardened' for enjoying no strings attached fun with men, and women who sleep with men 'by mistake'??? If men stopped taking advantage of women when they are d*unk then the world would be a much better place. See, I can generalise too! | |||
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"some people may take this comment as sexist but isnt it natural for a women to get emotionally attached to people they sleep with? It's only hardened women who are happy with sleeping with guys and not feeling anyway about them after. That and women who sleep with people by mistake i.e too d*unk, clouded judgement etc" No i dont think that is true. Not on swingers sites but in my life in general, guys ive known havent understood that i can have sex with someone and walk away. We are led to believe that women have to have an emotional connection. If all women had to have an emotional connection then there would be no single women or women half of couples on here | |||
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"some people may take this comment as sexist but isnt it natural for a women to get emotionally attached to people they sleep with? It's only hardened women who are happy with sleeping with guys and not feeling anyway about them after. That and women who sleep with people by mistake i.e too d*unk, clouded judgement etc" i think you might need to think about the fact you are on a swinging site , and what swinging means before you make such judgements and generalisations. If you honestly believe that why are you here looking for nsa sex? | |||
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"some people may take this comment as sexist but isnt it natural for a women to get emotionally attached to people they sleep with? It's only hardened women who are happy with sleeping with guys and not feeling anyway about them after. That and women who sleep with people by mistake i.e too d*unk, clouded judgement etc No i dont think that is true. Not on swingers sites but in my life in general, guys ive known havent understood that i can have sex with someone and walk away. We are led to believe that women have to have an emotional connection. If all women had to have an emotional connection then there would be no single women or women half of couples on here" Maybe where some get their kecks in a twist is where the women say on the forums that they 'won't just sleep with anyone - there has to be something else there for them to do that'. Perhaps some confuse that for feelings where really it's just fanciful lust - the same thing that makes anyone drool over something tasty on display, and want to try the experience of it, with the emphasis on 'experience'. A lot of guys think that there's a gain in emotional real estate with a woman from sleeping with her. It's not so. Going for d*unk girls I've never done - I've always wanted them to enjoy and remember what happened. Yep I know I'm old fashioned... Wolf | |||
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"some people may take this comment as sexist but isnt it natural for a women to get emotionally attached to people they sleep with? It's only hardened women who are happy with sleeping with guys and not feeling anyway about them after. That and women who sleep with people by mistake i.e too d*unk, clouded judgement etc No i dont think that is true. Not on swingers sites but in my life in general, guys ive known havent understood that i can have sex with someone and walk away. We are led to believe that women have to have an emotional connection. If all women had to have an emotional connection then there would be no single women or women half of couples on here Maybe where some get their kecks in a twist is where the women say on the forums that they 'won't just sleep with anyone - there has to be something else there for them to do that'. Perhaps some confuse that for feelings where really it's just fanciful lust - the same thing that makes anyone drool over something tasty on display, and want to try the experience of it, with the emphasis on 'experience'. A lot of guys think that there's a gain in emotional real estate with a woman from sleeping with her. It's not so. Going for d*unk girls I've never done - I've always wanted them to enjoy and remember what happened. Yep I know I'm old fashioned... Wolf " I agree, also there are some very strange women out there that do think if a guy shags her, he has to marry her or at least get into some kind of relationship with her. These women in my opinion are in the minority but it doesnt do any favours for us heartless bitches that can just fuck and run | |||
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"some people may take this comment as sexist but isnt it natural for a women to get emotionally attached to people they sleep with? It's only hardened women who are happy with sleeping with guys and not feeling anyway about them after. That and women who sleep with people by mistake i.e too d*unk, clouded judgement etc No i dont think that is true. Not on swingers sites but in my life in general, guys ive known havent understood that i can have sex with someone and walk away. We are led to believe that women have to have an emotional connection. If all women had to have an emotional connection then there would be no single women or women half of couples on here Maybe where some get their kecks in a twist is where the women say on the forums that they 'won't just sleep with anyone - there has to be something else there for them to do that'. Perhaps some confuse that for feelings where really it's just fanciful lust - the same thing that makes anyone drool over something tasty on display, and want to try the experience of it, with the emphasis on 'experience'. A lot of guys think that there's a gain in emotional real estate with a woman from sleeping with her. It's not so. Going for d*unk girls I've never done - I've always wanted them to enjoy and remember what happened. Yep I know I'm old fashioned... Wolf I agree, also there are some very strange women out there that do think if a guy shags her, he has to marry her or at least get into some kind of relationship with her. These women in my opinion are in the minority but it doesnt do any favours for us heartless bitches that can just fuck and run " normally after a good fuck i cant walk never mind run | |||
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"some people may take this comment as sexist but isnt it natural for a women to get emotionally attached to people they sleep with? It's only hardened women who are happy with sleeping with guys and not feeling anyway about them after. That and women who sleep with people by mistake i.e too d*unk, clouded judgement etc No i dont think that is true. Not on swingers sites but in my life in general, guys ive known havent understood that i can have sex with someone and walk away. We are led to believe that women have to have an emotional connection. If all women had to have an emotional connection then there would be no single women or women half of couples on here Maybe where some get their kecks in a twist is where the women say on the forums that they 'won't just sleep with anyone - there has to be something else there for them to do that'. Perhaps some confuse that for feelings where really it's just fanciful lust - the same thing that makes anyone drool over something tasty on display, and want to try the experience of it, with the emphasis on 'experience'. A lot of guys think that there's a gain in emotional real estate with a woman from sleeping with her. It's not so. Going for d*unk girls I've never done - I've always wanted them to enjoy and remember what happened. Yep I know I'm old fashioned... Wolf I agree, also there are some very strange women out there that do think if a guy shags her, he has to marry her or at least get into some kind of relationship with her. These women in my opinion are in the minority but it doesnt do any favours for us heartless bitches that can just fuck and run normally after a good fuck i cant walk never mind run " It was a figment of speech | |||
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"some people may take this comment as sexist but isnt it natural for a women to get emotionally attached to people they sleep with? It's only hardened women who are happy with sleeping with guys and not feeling anyway about them after. That and women who sleep with people by mistake i.e too d*unk, clouded judgement etc" depedns what you mean by emotionally attached, i like to think that wit the meets i meet regularly friendships have developed,that is an emotional attachment, not love just friendship then there are those who i meet, have sex with and never see again either through my choice or theirs | |||
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"some people may take this comment as sexist but isnt it natural for a women to get emotionally attached to people they sleep with? It's only hardened women who are happy with sleeping with guys and not feeling anyway about them after. That and women who sleep with people by mistake i.e too d*unk, clouded judgement etc No i dont think that is true. Not on swingers sites but in my life in general, guys ive known havent understood that i can have sex with someone and walk away. We are led to believe that women have to have an emotional connection. If all women had to have an emotional connection then there would be no single women or women half of couples on here Maybe where some get their kecks in a twist is where the women say on the forums that they 'won't just sleep with anyone - there has to be something else there for them to do that'. Perhaps some confuse that for feelings where really it's just fanciful lust - the same thing that makes anyone drool over something tasty on display, and want to try the experience of it, with the emphasis on 'experience'. A lot of guys think that there's a gain in emotional real estate with a woman from sleeping with her. It's not so. Going for d*unk girls I've never done - I've always wanted them to enjoy and remember what happened. Yep I know I'm old fashioned... Wolf I agree, also there are some very strange women out there that do think if a guy shags her, he has to marry her or at least get into some kind of relationship with her. These women in my opinion are in the minority but it doesnt do any favours for us heartless bitches that can just fuck and run " yep spot on and I was also just thinking about extending that out to couples in a way too... that sometimes they think they own their singles and other couples... ish... maybe... sortof... lol I reckon that the attitude towards nsa is hard learned through experience, for some very hard indeed that they never quite escape the 'vanilla twinge'. It's worth going through for the sheer freedom that exists on the other side, once someone gets over that hurdle the fears all evaporate, and you're not worried about emotional attachment, just the here and nows of it all. Those that manage the hurdle (and there's no time limit) will have a great time on this site, those who don't might be better trying dating instead... Wolf | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx" Sorry, but that's pretty much bollocks. Nothing is natural. Some of us choose to be the way we are because we like the way we are. It's not about being damaged or unnatural; neither is it some great ideological statement. There may be people who swing because they are needy or damaged; if you meet them run away quickly. | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx Emotional faithfulness to one partner is paramour to me and I will fight tooth and nail for that But physically? Sorry I disagree that the human race was ever meant to be physically monogomous I also feel that to swing successfully you have to be emotionally strong not emotionally damaged we arent, evolutionary biology shows us monogamy is a modern idea imposed as a control...there is a reason women concieve better with competing sperm " The study of History shows us that both monogamy and polygamy (as well as polyandry) have been practiced by human beings for thousands of years. | |||
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"MMmmm where to start.....I joined the site for nsa sex...simple....erm no....I found a woman on here that I was not looking for or had any intentions of looking for....I have fallen completely head over heels....damn what the hell happened....I only wanted sex......the fortunate bit is that SHE feels the same....now work that one out...niether of us feel we could live together as nothing would get done...yes I hear you say infatuation....I thought so to but just sitting drinking coffee and being togther is just as good ...well nearly... but there is just something that we cannot put our finger on and it is both scary and so, so intense and fantastic at the same time......yes you can find a soul mate, a fb, a partner and if thats what happens you dont have a say in the matter...its a natural thing that we and I guess lots of others before and many more after will ponder on. To us its very strange how ....er.........love for want of a better word comes out of left field and hits you when you are not looking........end of surmon sorry...xx " that is a lovely post......sometimes the last thing you are looking for is the thing you find.! Good luck x | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx Emotional faithfulness to one partner is paramour to me and I will fight tooth and nail for that But physically? Sorry I disagree that the human race was ever meant to be physically monogomous I also feel that to swing successfully you have to be emotionally strong not emotionally damaged we arent, evolutionary biology shows us monogamy is a modern idea imposed as a control...there is a reason women concieve better with competing sperm The study of History shows us that both monogamy and polygamy (as well as polyandry) have been practiced by human beings for thousands of years." Yes but evolutionary biology looks at a far longer timespan. | |||
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"i think most swingers are damaged emotionaly if they are honest because it goes against nature,at the end of the day we are here for a reason and have our place in nature, we have fucked it up big time lol........ we are supposed to have soul mates by nature, not fuck anyone with a good bodxx Emotional faithfulness to one partner is paramour to me and I will fight tooth and nail for that But physically? Sorry I disagree that the human race was ever meant to be physically monogomous I also feel that to swing successfully you have to be emotionally strong not emotionally damaged we arent, evolutionary biology shows us monogamy is a modern idea imposed as a control...there is a reason women concieve better with competing sperm The study of History shows us that both monogamy and polygamy (as well as polyandry) have been practiced by human beings for thousands of years." Yes but evolutionary biology looks at a far longer timespan. | |||
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"Although I have had relationship failures in the past, I have learnt from my mistakes, and am more in tune with what I like and dislike, and am less willing to accommodate another person's needs and wants. I do not believe I am emotionally scarred. " I don't either. I think that the further down that road we travel the less likely we are to want to trust anyone enough to strike up a relationship - maybe we're a product of our environment too - whatever the results of the environment and those in that environment foster, on a timescale far less than any evolutionary biology. If we're talking evolutionary biology, can the changes that are neccessary happen in any one person's lifetime? Wolf | |||
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"someone iv been seeing has started getting judgmental and a bit controlling i dont want to see him anymore but he wont accept that,i could block him but he has my mbl number,stupid of me i know but i dont know what to do,i cant change my number help " Him having your mobile number doesn't matter. Every time he texts or messages, ignore and delete. He'll get the message. If not then speak to your service provider. Also, its a radical notion, but tell him. If guys on here get pushy I say that they are pushy and thats why I won't be replying. Just say to him that his behaviour has made you feel uncomfortable and you won't be in touch any more. That may help. | |||
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"someone iv been seeing has started getting judgmental and a bit controlling i dont want to see him anymore but he wont accept that,i could block him but he has my mbl number,stupid of me i know but i dont know what to do,i cant change my number help Him having your mobile number doesn't matter. Every time he texts or messages, ignore and delete. He'll get the message. If not then speak to your service provider. Also, its a radical notion, but tell him. If guys on here get pushy I say that they are pushy and thats why I won't be replying. Just say to him that his behaviour has made you feel uncomfortable and you won't be in touch any more. That may help." oh i have tol;d him hes not listening,but i will not put up with it,i will sort it,thank you xx | |||
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"I am completely on Cali's side, being the female half of a very longstanding couple. We have been together for 37 years and I knew then that I was not a one-man-woman, so to start we talked, and talked, then he spoke to some of the guys who were in my life at the time, and he made his choice - to stay with me. We have had a lot of different "angles" and "aspects" to our relationship over those years but the mainstay has always been that we are honest and tell each other everything. Yes, I get emotionally involved with guys I meet. I would go as far as to say that I cannot have sex with a man if I don't fall for him first. I fall in lust, have a crush, get infatuated, whatever you want to call it, I meet that guy as many times as possible, and then I get over it. I do believe that I can love more than one person at a time, but every love is different. I don't suppose that made sense, but it was good the get it off my chest. Jane x" totally get where ur coming from! X | |||
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"Have any of you who are in relationships, either playing together or separately, been affected by getting emotionally involved with a swinging partner? How common is it & how do you avoid it? i care about the friends i meet here, but i suppose because i am with my soul mate i dont worry about romantically falling for someone. i do believe there are many forms of love tho, i have strong feelings for Sir, different to the ones to those i have for kev i do not see emotions as being a problem, confusing want and need and possessiveness are the problem, swinging does not mean being cold...it means being free and allowing others to be." Well said. | |||
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"I am completely on Cali's side, being the female half of a very longstanding couple. We have been together for 37 years and I knew then that I was not a one-man-woman, so to start we talked, and talked, then he spoke to some of the guys who were in my life at the time, and he made his choice - to stay with me. We have had a lot of different "angles" and "aspects" to our relationship over those years but the mainstay has always been that we are honest and tell each other everything. Yes, I get emotionally involved with guys I meet. I would go as far as to say that I cannot have sex with a man if I don't fall for him first. I fall in lust, have a crush, get infatuated, whatever you want to call it, I meet that guy as many times as possible, and then I get over it. I do believe that I can love more than one person at a time, but every love is different. I don't suppose that made sense, but it was good the get it off my chest. Jane x totally get where ur coming from! X" Totally makes sense to me Jane. I think we share similar traits then in that I'm susceptible to infatuation too...Just not sure if my partner can tolerate that at this stage x | |||
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