FabSwingers.com forum: Entrapment

By *histler21 OP Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

Does entrapment go on on swingers sites?

I ask this question because a "18 year old" was coming on strong to me. Interested in older blokes etc etc. Possibly the stuff dreams are made of...

Then the conversation veered towards: she has a friend - size 8, big tits, f*cks like a train. Likes old blokes too. Oh yeah - she's 14! Would I like to f*ck her too. Naturally, I'm not into underage sex... And I was very careful to always say 'not for me'.

Hence the question is: is this some sort of police entrapment?

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Its probably some guy having a wind up with you

I hope you've reported the profile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would think that the police would concentrate on other means to catch men having sex with underage girls

However the person who's profile it is needs banning and other sites warned

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By *histler21 OP Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

'She' is no longer a member...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like a wind up

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Im a bit confused you were careful to "always" say not for me?

I can't believe you did'nt tell whoever it was to F off straight away

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By *histler21 OP Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

"Im a bit confused you were careful to "always" say not for me?"

What should I have said?? I'm not into underage sex. 18 or over - yes, even though anything over 16 is 'legal': I think that is cutting it close.

"I can't believe you did'nt tell whoever it was to F off straight away

Hey - I get so few people interested... And I have experience of people who *do* like the older male.

At that stage, I was still hoping things might have been genuine...

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

"Im a bit confused you were careful to "always" say not for me?

What should I have said?? I'm not into underage sex. 18 or over - yes, even though anything over 16 is 'legal': I think that is cutting it close.

I can't believe you did'nt tell whoever it was to F off straight away

Hey - I get so few people interested... And I have experience of people who *do* like the older male.

At that stage, I was still hoping things might have been genuine..."

No I meant that how many times did they have to ask you if you were into a 14 yr old

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By *histler21 OP Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

No I meant that how many times did they have to ask you if you were into a 14 yr old"

It crept up twice in the long conversation. Sort of mentioned as an aside...possibly just to see if I was interested.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I would say it was some kind of wind up. Not many "normal" guys are going to go with a girl they no for a fact is 14 yes some look far older in clubs but to be told before hand seems a windup.

When i was young shall i say i was less than a saint and the last thing i would of done was tell anyone my real age

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmmmm, I know we all have different taste but I, at 50 would feel creepy contemplating any type of liaison with a teenager!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im a bit confused you were careful to "always" say not for me?

What should I have said?? I'm not into underage sex. 18 or over - yes, even though anything over 16 is 'legal': I think that is cutting it close.

I can't believe you did'nt tell whoever it was to F off straight away

Hey - I get so few people interested... And I have experience of people who *do* like the older male.

At that stage, I was still hoping things might have been genuine...

No I meant that how many times did they have to ask you if you were into a 14 yr old"

I must admit: I wondered that too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does entrapment go on on swingers sites?

I ask this question because a "18 year old" was coming on strong to me. Interested in older blokes etc etc. Possibly the stuff dreams are made of...

Hence the question is: is this some sort of police entrapment?"

Sounds like a bloke fantasising, rather than a police entrapment exercise to us. Think the police target teen chatrooms to catch their perverts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hence the question is: is this some sort of police entrapment?"

The police wouldn't act that way as the evidence would be inadmissible unless you had raised the subject in the first place.

The case against Colin Stagg in the Rachel Nickell murder was thrown out on the basis of entrapment and rightly so as it turned out, so the police know full well that it's a waste of time trawling in that way.

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

Or it could have been someone on a mission to expose nonce cases..

They might have just been randomly sounding you out though...dont take it personally

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Report and block!!! Simple....

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"Does entrapment go on on swingers sites?

I ask this question because a "18 year old" was coming on strong to me. Interested in older blokes etc etc. Possibly the stuff dreams are made of...

Hence the question is: is this some sort of police entrapment?"

I would have thought that it would have been more worrying that you are trying to get in the knickers of a teenager. You are 52 and married.

Apart from being sad, sad, sad, I could have seen a blackmail threat coming on.

18 year old: give me money or I'm telling your wife.

What the hell would you have done?

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By *histler21 OP Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

"I would have thought that it would have been more worrying that you are trying to get in the knickers of a teenager. You are 52 and married."
If 18 is too young. What is OK? 20? 30?...

"Apart from being sad, sad, sad, I could have seen a blackmail threat coming on."
No, not sad - horny and missing sex...

"18 year old: give me money or I'm telling your wife.

What the hell would you have done?"
That risk is always present no matter what age people are...

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

Staffs

There are more police into "swinging" than there are trying to "entrap you" entrap you for what exactly. Maybe youve watched too many american tv series.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It will be someone getting off on the fact you thought you are going to meet an 18yr old,and this person probably done the same to others on here.

You must have thought all your xmas's had come at once lol... If it seems to good to be true it usually is.

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By *it of fun cplCouple
over a year ago

village between York and Hull

Just a point to note.. Even if they were over 16 and under 18 it is still illegal for them to a send a picture to you as the law states that adult material must be over 18 only. so even if they are over 16 which is the legal age for sex sending pictures is still illegal, if they did send you one and you forwarded it to a friend you could then be done for distributing child porn!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some valid points made and some intresting stuff said. On the issue of the Police - I cannot rule out their being involved as there are many instances of them trying to obtain evidence and even manufacturing evidence (the West Mids Serius Crime Squad were responsible for PACE for heavens sake!). In Leeds they set up an Agent Provacateur at great expense to the taxpayer to try and catch a man they suspected had killed his wife - The evidence was quite rightly ruled inadmissable by the Judge but it did not stop them trying - They fish for stuff and don't always get a bite as often people have done nothing wrong!

A mate of mine was pulled for not wearing a seatbelt and he maintains that it was because he would not let the coppers out at a junction where they were forcing themsleves out into the flow of traffic - the woman gets out and see's he's got a belt on and 5 14 year olds are in the car with him to prove but they cannot give evidence as there under the age! Next thing he knows he gets a summons and copies of statements where the man has talked to him seen that he has no belt on and that the woman can verify this - I beleive my mate as he's 100% honest as are his kids - He spoke to a high ranking copper who told him to forget and take the fine as the court would always take the coppers word over his. It stinks, so be very careful 1984 has passed....

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

"I would have thought that it would have been more worrying that you are trying to get in the knickers of a teenager. You are 52 and married.If 18 is too young. What is OK? 20? 30?...

Apart from being sad, sad, sad, I could have seen a blackmail threat coming on. No, not sad - horny and missing sex...

18 year old: give me money or I'm telling your wife.

What the hell would you have done?That risk is always present no matter what age people are..."

If 18 is too young comment.... erm.I am amazed that a man with 52 years maturity would be be so selfess to consider having sex with an 18 year old in the normal world. There is a massive age difference in between the two ages and the thought just makes me feel sick. I have typed a reply then deleted it without posting as whatever I was about to say was going to come across as pretty awful.

Just seems a big shame to miss sex so much that you may not be choosy any more,and any age will do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it could go on but it would not be the Police who did it, the laws on entrapment are very strict and they are not allowed to lead into it in such a way, you would have to suggest finding a younger person for them to be able to prosecute.

There are two Police Stations in the UK which deal with internet criminality, New Scotland Yard and West Bromwich, I have worked with the WB station and was instructed in procedures when I ran an MSN Chatroom way back when which was called Younger Ladies who Love Older Guys, the site was plagued with Paedophiles or would be Paedophiles and constantly monitored by the Police, if nothing else some good arrests where made as a result of the site being in existance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Madchick, can't agree with you as you know that when we first met you my ex and I had a large age gap (30 years) but you know how intelligent and mature she was. (clever enough to get rid of me after 6 years lol)

It's not ideal but age gap relationships do work in a few cases.

Back to subject and note that if the Police find you with any inapropriate pictures of underage children on your PC you will be prosecuted, no excuses are accepted, when I worked with them actively catching Paedophiles I was warned that if I any pictures were found on my PC I would be charged despite what they knew about me and that I had initially approached them to highlight a problem that they felt important enough to send an officer round to train me and work with me once a week. They will prosecute every time.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

"Madchick, can't agree with you as you know that when we first met you my ex and I had a large age gap (30 years) but you know how intelligent and mature she was. (clever enough to get rid of me after 6 years lol)

It's not ideal but age gap relationships do work in a few cases.

Jed, I know you and lets be honest, when you met your previous gf, you were'nt out to seduce an 18 year old.

There is a world of difference between a chance meeting and love developing and a 52 year old MARRIED male (possibly with children her age) using a swinging forum to (possibly) try and get an 18 year old into bed.

I'm sorry but if a 52 year old is contacting 18 year olds on the off chance that he can 'fuck' them, then I'm (personally) not impressed.

At the end of the day, the fact that he is married screams 'mid-life crisis' to me and if I were him, I would be more concerned with what the wife would do if she EVER found out he was even attempting to try to get into the knickers of a 'child' young enough to be his grand-daughter (I was going to say daughter, but grand-daughter is also possible)

With you Jed, you attract younger females, which is obvious by the amount of time you have been in your relationships...... and you didn't scour the internet looking for young girls.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

I thought id post what the OP said at the start,I can see it being twisted around in here to being the opposite of what he actually said

"I ask this question because a "18 year old" was coming on strong to me. Interested in older blokes etc etc. Possibly the stuff dreams are made of..."

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By *obblybitsCouple
over a year ago

huddersfield

never mind if it bloody damb well goes on hear you should of told them to fuck right off and reported it.

by saying of course I was weary and saying of course I said no.

and yeah what is it with oo every mans dream having an 18yr old! why I wonder??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did you get an actual pic of the 18 year old there are so many fakers on here you have to be careful. At 18 I would never of been ready for the swinging scene. Whats people views of increasing the age limit on fabs to 25s and over.

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By *ilthythanetCouple
over a year ago

ramsgate

Definitely some guy getting off on the fantasy.

Very unlikely the police would use such a method to catch people into underage sex as any decent defence lawyer would rip the case apart.

J and L

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Defo some sad single male winding you up or getting some sexual high from it!

Ignore them,your better than that babe!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Did you get an actual pic of the 18 year old there are so many fakers on here you have to be careful. At 18 I would never of been ready for the swinging scene. Whats people views of increasing the age limit on fabs to 25s and over."

surely its for the individul to know whether or not they are ready for swinging or not

personally i dont play with anyone under 25, my choice etc etc but there are those tht like younger men and, as long as the age of consent is 18 then i dont see there being much arguement to raise the joining age on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Madchick I have to concede the point, your right I don't seek out younger women, I will play with any woman I find attractive no matter what her age, relationships are the same and the women I usually play with and have relationships do seem to find me and not the other way round, in the case of swinging fun there is no doubt that the initial attraction was Kaynie, Heather, Sasha and the others but I do find it a compliment that they find me, well shagable I guess and yes Sasha I met at Chameleons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think everyone is going slightly off track as HPC is saying. This is not about him being married, or the age gap between couples....perhaps people should re read the post he put

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