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"We have a question , Paul's always liked the vouyerism more than joining in , he enjoys watching me being pleasured so we've started down the cuck route ( he has a chastity device etc) but niether if us particularly like the humiliation side of things that's assumed with the term, can you be a cuckold without it? If not what would you define it as? " I would define it as having a damn good time in exactly the way you want to. We have no experience of this but humiliation wouldn't appeal to us either. | |||
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"We have a question , Paul's always liked the vouyerism more than joining in , he enjoys watching me being pleasured so we've started down the cuck route ( he has a chastity device etc) but niether if us particularly like the humiliation side of things that's assumed with the term, can you be a cuckold without it? If not what would you define it as? I would define it as having a damn good time in exactly the way you want to. We have no experience of this but humiliation wouldn't appeal to us either." It's never appealed to either of us but as soon as you put cuckold on the interests it's amazing how many people assume that's what you want . | |||
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"We have a question , Paul's always liked the vouyerism more than joining in , he enjoys watching me being pleasured so we've started down the cuck route ( he has a chastity device etc) but niether if us particularly like the humiliation side of things that's assumed with the term, can you be a cuckold without it? If not what would you define it as? I would define it as having a damn good time in exactly the way you want to. We have no experience of this but humiliation wouldn't appeal to us either. It's never appealed to either of us but as soon as you put cuckold on the interests it's amazing how many people assume that's what you want . " I can imagine! But I think humiliation is tied up with cuckolding (as you say) almost by definition. So what you're after (I'm quick to catch on me ) is another way of describing it so that people understand what you're after? Would it be straightforward voyeurism with the small addition of chastity? | |||
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"Maybe you could play out the fantasy where your the porn stars and he is the director or the porn viewer? Maybe adding a camera ( real or fake) will let him depersonalise you in his mind and let him enjoy being a voyeur without humiliation coming into the equation. The easiest thing I can think of is webcam sex with him watching in the next room x" We've done the webcam thing that was fun for all involved and the me going out and sending pics back to him too , it's just funny how many people think huniliation straight away when we say Paul likes to watch either they think they need to show him how's it's done properly ( whatever that means ) or that he's cissyfied ( which he isn't ) it's hard to explain without the term cuckold but as soon as you mention it they think they are a bull | |||
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"Surely if there isn't any humiliation it's just wife having sex with other blokes and husband liking it? Shoot me down in flames (again) if I'm wrong" it is whatever the people involved in it want it to be within agreed boundaries . any thing from mild to extreme and the modern aspect derives from femdom | |||
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"Surely if there isn't any humiliation it's just wife having sex with other blokes and husband liking it? Shoot me down in flames (again) if I'm wrongit is whatever the people involved in it want it to be within agreed boundaries . any thing from mild to extreme and the modern aspect derives from femdom " Ok, so I've decided I'm a ladyboy, don't have cock or balls, but that's just semantics, surely I can interpret the term ladyboy anyway I want. So come on then you ladyboy lovers, oops sorry, no cock | |||
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"We have a question , Paul's always liked the vouyerism more than joining in , he enjoys watching me being pleasured so we've started down the cuck route ( he has a chastity device etc) but niether if us particularly like the humiliation side of things that's assumed with the term, can you be a cuckold without it? If not what would you define it as? " A hotwife | |||
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"Mss Giggles and Paul, What you enjoy is more accurately described as "hotwifing". The husband of a "hotwife" enjoys watching, and wants his wife to have sex with as many people as she desires. Humiliation or emotional angst are not part of the attraction to this; it's purely the excitement of the wife enjoying sex with another man. He does not necessarily want to be "left out" to be turned on (unless he chooses not to partake). Cuckolding involves considerably more emotional conflict. Again, the husband enjoys the concept of his wife having sex as much as she likes, BUT the additional feelings triggered by humiliation (even if merely imagined), the angst of sharing her with another man looming large in his mind, and the inclusion of any other fetishes (forced feminisation, enforced chastity, interracial, whatever) make the whole experience profoundly more charged and layered. This clearly isn't everyone's cup of tea. So to avoid people making such assumptions you should probably refer to yourselves as a hotwife couple, rather than a cuckold couple " thank you for that informative description, i think it pretty much sums it up | |||
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"Surely if there isn't any humiliation it's just wife having sex with other blokes and husband liking it? Shoot me down in flames (again) if I'm wrongit is whatever the people involved in it want it to be within agreed boundaries . any thing from mild to extreme and the modern aspect derives from femdom Very well put. J " | |||
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"Mss Giggles and Paul, What you enjoy is more accurately described as "hotwifing". The husband of a "hotwife" enjoys watching, and wants his wife to have sex with as many people as she desires. Humiliation or emotional angst are not part of the attraction to this; it's purely the excitement of the wife enjoying sex with another man. He does not necessarily want to be "left out" to be turned on (unless he chooses not to partake). Cuckolding involves considerably more emotional conflict. Again, the husband enjoys the concept of his wife having sex as much as she likes, BUT the additional feelings triggered by humiliation (even if merely imagined), the angst of sharing her with another man looming large in his mind, and the inclusion of any other fetishes (forced feminisation, enforced chastity, interracial, whatever) make the whole experience profoundly more charged and layered. This clearly isn't everyone's cup of tea. So to avoid people making such assumptions you should probably refer to yourselves as a hotwife couple, rather than a cuckold couple thank you for that informative description, i think it pretty much sums it up " this is the best description i've ever seen , it describes my role with my wife perfect i am her sissy cuckold kept in chastity | |||
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"We have a question , Paul's always liked the vouyerism more than joining in , he enjoys watching me being pleasured so we've started down the cuck route ( he has a chastity device etc) but niether if us particularly like the humiliation side of things that's assumed with the term, can you be a cuckold without it? If not what would you define it as? " As has been said although some couples do the humiliation side of things cuckolding does not have to involve humiliation. It's also a myth that the hotwife only meets big cocked guys. Search Google for "cuckold contract". Once you read a few different contracts it will give you an idea of what cuckolding is about. | |||
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"I really enjoy watching or hearing Bev getting fucked by others, not sure what previous poster means by Locked, but I am neither humiliated or Locked, We both find the experience very arousing. Bev enjoys it as she loves fucking strangers, I enjoy as I love hearing her moan as she is getting fucked and also how wet her pussy is sounding on every stroke. SO for us cuckolding is about the arousing side and nothing to do with humiliation, ifit were humiliating we wouldnt do it as neither would like to inflict that upon the other" What he said.... ^^^ | |||
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"I really enjoy watching or hearing Bev getting fucked by others, not sure what previous poster means by Locked, but I am neither humiliated or Locked, We both find the experience very arousing. Bev enjoys it as she loves fucking strangers, I enjoy as I love hearing her moan as she is getting fucked and also how wet her pussy is sounding on every stroke. SO for us cuckolding is about the arousing side and nothing to do with humiliation, ifit were humiliating we wouldnt do it as neither would like to inflict that upon the other" This is exactly our thing too | |||
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"Wow, and there was me thinking that we were ALL the same and that NOBODY deviated from the missionary position. What a surprise, everybody is different and has different tastes!!!! That was an emotional Eureka moment!! " Wow that's a lot of sarcasm, just wondering what brought that random comment out ? | |||
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"Surely if there isn't any humiliation it's just wife having sex with other blokes and husband liking it? Shoot me down in flames (again) if I'm wrong" That would tie in with my view. Cuckoldry by it's very name should surely contain a level of humiliation? The term cuckold in itself is quite humiliating. | |||
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"The humiliation is just an added aspect for the cucks torment. Being restrained gagged can also increase the humiliation factor. or perhaps being blindfolded and locked into a dog cage" | |||
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"Surely if there isn't any humiliation it's just wife having sex with other blokes and husband liking it? Shoot me down in flames (again) if I'm wrong That would tie in with my view. Cuckoldry by it's very name should surely contain a level of humiliation? The term cuckold in itself is quite humiliating." The term cuckold is very old and derives from cuckoo. Originally it referred to a man humiliated by bringing up another mans child as a result of his wife having sex outside marriage. The 'humiliation' arose from others knowing that he had accepted the situation. Today it covers a huge range of scenarios. As an experienced bull I have come across a fair number of these. Simple voyeurism is generally seen as the mildest end of the spectrum. There is often some element of humiliation involved - though often this is the wife verbally humiliating the husband. I have experienced situations were the male is tied up to watch and so can get hard but not relieve himself, chastity devices, slavery /service etc such as having to waitress to the fem and myself, being watched on cam from as far away as France (she was visiting her mum in uk!) If anyone wants to message me for my experiences or advice then please feel free. | |||
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"As always I think your level of cuckoldry is about trust and a feel for your partners boundaries. It is quite extreme needing to be humiliated to such degrees as some like. I quite like mild humiliation but I don't think Mrs N has quite learnt how to exploit it. Perhaps she never will as she too is very sub. For example ....... We had a guy to play the other day. We broke ice by playing a simple card game with forfeits. We soon got to forfeits and I as usual was naked. The other guy who was a Black dude we'd invited round was still in his trousers. She lost the forfeit so her instruction card read suck a cock. It didn't say whose cock so...... I made it a test. I said to the guy drop your trousers and she must choose. I hoped she would choose his upon seeing it as his was black, thicker and had a huge bulbous Bell end and I know she likes young attractive men with big dicks. However her instinct for caring for me took over and she couldn't bring herself to do what probably she really wanted to do. The guy who was a perfect gentleman could see her hesitation and stepped in to save her blushes and said she should suck both. A good compromise but not really taking us forward a step in our cuckoldry adventure. I will ask him not to do that next time if the opportunity arises." Would be happy to help! | |||
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"I agree the sound of Balls pounding on wet piss flaps is one of the sexiest noises you can hear, but I don't feel it's just about seeing it. Once Mrs N is safe and relaxed with her man I ask if it's OK for me to leave the room. She knows I enjoy the slight humiliation of waiting patiently outside. Often I cannot contain myself and look in. I wish I could control that urge and just leave her too it. However I guess the mixture of envy and jealousy means I cannot tear my eyes away for long. I need to make sure she is OK with it. It is that feeling which I both enjoy and loath in equal measure. I often wonder why I should want my beautiful g/f to fuck other guys. It's getting to that feeling which I guess is a bit like a drug I guess. Mrs N is very coy about her feelings afterwards which I find slightly disappointing. She doesn't let on much about how good the guy was. This drives me to organise another meet with the same guy if it appeared she enjoyed it. Maybe she knows that and enjoys the unknown way our relationship develops or maybe she just enjoys the meet for what it is. A good fuck from a handsome sexy bloke. Nothing more, nothing less and not bothered if I organise it again. It's a classic example of the way in which men and women see things differently isn't it." | |||
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"We have a question , Paul's always liked the vouyerism more than joining in , he enjoys watching me being pleasured so we've started down the cuck route ( he has a chastity device etc) but niether if us particularly like the humiliation side of things that's assumed with the term, can you be a cuckold without it? If not what would you define it as? " It's down to you guys as a couple. What ever makes you happy feel safe and get your juices flowing. Everyone is different and we have to reflect that. Just let the bull know what you want and expect. Iv had my fair share if strange request lol. | |||
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"I agree the sound of Balls pounding on wet piss flaps is one of the sexiest noises you can hear, but I don't feel it's just about seeing it. Once Mrs N is safe and relaxed with her man I ask if it's OK for me to leave the room. She knows I enjoy the slight humiliation of waiting patiently outside. Often I cannot contain myself and look in. I wish I could control that urge and just leave her too it. However I guess the mixture of envy and jealousy means I cannot tear my eyes away for long. I need to make sure she is OK with it. It is that feeling which I both enjoy and loath in equal measure. I often wonder why I should want my beautiful g/f to fuck other guys. It's getting to that feeling which I guess is a bit like a drug I guess. Mrs N is very coy about her feelings afterwards which I find slightly disappointing. She doesn't let on much about how good the guy was. This drives me to organise another meet with the same guy if it appeared she enjoyed it. Maybe she knows that and enjoys the unknown way our relationship develops or maybe she just enjoys the meet for what it is. A good fuck from a handsome sexy bloke. Nothing more, nothing less and not bothered if I organise it again. It's a classic example of the way in which men and women see things differently isn't it." This sounds ideal.... Please contact me lol! | |||
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"We certainly practice cuckolding without humiliation. The problem, if one can call it that, with cuckolding is that everyone has a different take on what it means from just watching to full on never having sex with the wife ever again. The key is to find what works best for you as a couple. Respect each other boundaries and if there is ever the slightest doubt, talk it through. We also have a safe word which either of us can use to warn the other that what is being discussed or about to happen, is beyond the others comfort zone. Only ever been used once for real and it then became apparent it was just a misunderstanding. Whatever your limits and however your cuckolding adventure goes, remember that it should be fun or everyone involved. " Very well said. J | |||
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"We certainly practice cuckolding without humiliation. The problem, if one can call it that, with cuckolding is that everyone has a different take on what it means from just watching to full on never having sex with the wife ever again. The key is to find what works best for you as a couple. Respect each other boundaries and if there is ever the slightest doubt, talk it through. We also have a safe word which either of us can use to warn the other that what is being discussed or about to happen, is beyond the others comfort zone. Only ever been used once for real and it then became apparent it was just a misunderstanding. Whatever your limits and however your cuckolding adventure goes, remember that it should be fun or everyone involved. " Very well put unfortunately too many people seem to think it HAS to involve the humiliation point and too many others don't actually know what the term Hotwife means either (we came across another thread where people we're say that they should be the judge of someone being "hot " or not lol) It's certainly hard to write a short profile without others jumping to conclusions about what you actually want | |||
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"Surely if there isn't any humiliation it's just wife having sex with other blokes and husband liking it? Shoot me down in flames (again) if I'm wrong That would tie in with my view. Cuckoldry by it's very name should surely contain a level of humiliation? The term cuckold in itself is quite humiliating." I agree. In a proper cuckold relationship the male is physically and verbally humiliated. You make him do things like wear frilly knickers, cock lock etc. You also do thing like always make him call you Mistress and call your bull Sir. As well as making cuck clean you up you also do things like make hum feed your bulls cock into your pussy. If I meat a cuck couple I want it to be a proper cuck couple not just where the male is voyeur. I expect respect from cuck. | |||
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"We have a question , Paul's always liked the vouyerism more than joining in , he enjoys watching me being pleasured so we've started down the cuck route ( he has a chastity device etc) but niether if us particularly like the humiliation side of things that's assumed with the term, can you be a cuckold without it? If not what would you define it as? " I'd define it as tease & denial....and very nice it is too. What does it matter what you call it, so long as you both enjoy it ? Cuckoldry has so many aspects to it. Each to their own I say | |||
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"It doesn't really matter I agree, but it's other peoples perception of the term that interests us , if you write it on your profile it seems too many suddenly think your into the extreme side of it " You're right they do. Perhaps there should be a tick box for Tease & Denial? Then it could be selected along with hotwife. Giving a more accurate description of your fun; as by definition the word "cuckold" is meant to be used in a humiliating context.... | |||
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"Do you have to put yourself in the "cuckold" category? Can you not just get a guy round to shag her while you watch?" If it was just that we did then yes but like we have already said it's not about how we look at it it's about how others assume it's the humiliation we want. | |||
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"Surely if there isn't any humiliation it's just wife having sex with other blokes and husband liking it? Shoot me down in flames (again) if I'm wrong That would tie in with my view. Cuckoldry by it's very name should surely contain a level of humiliation? The term cuckold in itself is quite humiliating. The term cuckold is very old and derives from cuckoo. Originally it referred to a man humiliated by bringing up another mans child as a result of his wife having sex outside marriage. The 'humiliation' arose from others knowing that he had accepted the situation. Today it covers a huge range of scenarios. As an experienced bull I have come across a fair number of these. Simple voyeurism is generally seen as the mildest end of the spectrum. There is often some element of humiliation involved - though often this is the wife verbally humiliating the husband. I have experienced situations were the male is tied up to watch and so can get hard but not relieve himself, chastity devices, slavery /service etc such as having to waitress to the fem and myself, being watched on cam from as far away as France (she was visiting her mum in uk!) If anyone wants to message me for my experiences or advice then please feel free." the historical background i was given on this 20 years ago is very similar. i was told a man was called cockold if his wife was having an affair. the 'humiliation' was a public shame in others knowing that he couldn't satisfy/control his wife. no overt acts of humiliation were necessary as it was a matter of personal pride and standing in the community. the humiliation currently inherent in the cuck fetish scene is a trend that's popuLar right now and has developed over time. you are free to describe yourself as a cuck couple. there is absolutely no 'one true' form of cuck annoys than there is 'one true' form of bdsm, swinging, or vanilla sex. it seems from reading threads on the topic that on this site at least.... in many ways it's actually the 'bulls' that are leading and setting the standard for the cuck couple. the couple. and the bulls, need to remember that it is the couple who are extending the invitation to someone who may meet their needs. if the bull isn't comfy with the proposal they then have every right to decline the invitation, but no right to assert their preferences over the couple outside the preagreed play limits. play safe, take your time, and enjoy yourselves. | |||
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"Surely if there isn't any humiliation it's just wife having sex with other blokes and husband liking it? Shoot me down in flames (again) if I'm wrong That would tie in with my view. Cuckoldry by it's very name should surely contain a level of humiliation? The term cuckold in itself is quite humiliating. The term cuckold is very old and derives from cuckoo. Originally it referred to a man humiliated by bringing up another mans child as a result of his wife having sex outside marriage. The 'humiliation' arose from others knowing that he had accepted the situation. Today it covers a huge range of scenarios. As an experienced bull I have come across a fair number of these. Simple voyeurism is generally seen as the mildest end of the spectrum. There is often some element of humiliation involved - though often this is the wife verbally humiliating the husband. I have experienced situations were the male is tied up to watch and so can get hard but not relieve himself, chastity devices, slavery /service etc such as having to waitress to the fem and myself, being watched on cam from as far away as France (she was visiting her mum in uk!) If anyone wants to message me for my experiences or advice then please feel free. the historical background i was given on this 20 years ago is very similar. i was told a man was called cockold if his wife was having an affair. the 'humiliation' was a public shame in others knowing that he couldn't satisfy/control his wife. no overt acts of humiliation were necessary as it was a matter of personal pride and standing in the community. the humiliation currently inherent in the cuck fetish scene is a trend that's popuLar right now and has developed over time. you are free to describe yourself as a cuck couple. there is absolutely no 'one true' form of cuck annoys than there is 'one true' form of bdsm, swinging, or vanilla sex. it seems from reading threads on the topic that on this site at least.... in many ways it's actually the 'bulls' that are leading and setting the standard for the cuck couple. the couple. and the bulls, need to remember that it is the couple who are extending the invitation to someone who may meet their needs. if the bull isn't comfy with the proposal they then have every right to decline the invitation, but no right to assert their preferences over the couple outside the preagreed play limits. play safe, take your time, and enjoy yourselves. " where that says annoys...it should say anymore instead. sorry. stupid phone | |||
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"We have a question , Paul's always liked the vouyerism more than joining in , he enjoys watching me being pleasured so we've started down the cuck route ( he has a chastity device etc) but niether if us particularly like the humiliation side of things that's assumed with the term, can you be a cuckold without it? If not what would you define it as? " A husband watching another man have sex with his wife is actually a form of humiliation. Therefore, you both must enjoy the humiliation. I understand that you might not enjoy the other stuff because it can be rather extreme. | |||
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"We have a question , Paul's always liked the vouyerism more than joining in , he enjoys watching me being pleasured so we've started down the cuck route ( he has a chastity device etc) but niether if us particularly like the humiliation side of things that's assumed with the term, can you be a cuckold without it? If not what would you define it as? A husband watching another man have sex with his wife is actually a form of humiliation. Therefore, you both must enjoy the humiliation. I understand that you might not enjoy the other stuff because it can be rather extreme." Completely wrong. I love seeing &/or hearing Sexy with other guys & it has nothing whatsoever to go with humiliation for either of us. Seeing her pleasured by other men, other women or anything in between gives me enormous pleasure but it in no way demeans me. | |||
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"We have a question , Paul's always liked the vouyerism more than joining in , he enjoys watching me being pleasured so we've started down the cuck route ( he has a chastity device etc) but niether if us particularly like the humiliation side of things that's assumed with the term, can you be a cuckold without it? If not what would you define it as? " Don't worry, you're not the only couple who like it that way. Voyeur summed it up nicely. For Kay and I it's much the same....when she plays I watch...my fun..her safety...and the guys briefed beforehand that the "humiliation" line is not on the agenda...cross that one and it's game over. | |||
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"I am lucky enough to have a couple in Glasgow - who are now friends - he meets me at the door and then sits downstairs listening to me having noisy sex with his wife upstairs in their bed. They both get what they want out of it - is that classed as cuckolding ???" lol, from what you have written, i would say it is cuckolding | |||
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"Surely if there isn't any humiliation it's just wife having sex with other blokes and husband liking it? Shoot me down in flames (again) if I'm wrongit is whatever the people involved in it want it to be within agreed boundaries . any thing from mild to extreme and the modern aspect derives from femdom " Extremely well put! J | |||
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