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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject " Coming and going will not help you also your only 27 a lot on here think "too young" your profile doesn't stand out that's 3 observations for you to think about for a start | |||
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"Maybe take a look at the common variable….yourself?" I highly agree there are to many men on this but some of the women and couples think there gods gift when talking to you and it’s just not interesting | |||
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"Maybe take a look at the common variable….yourself? I highly agree there are to many men on this but some of the women and couples think there gods gift when talking to you and it’s just not interesting " Then perhaps this site isn’t for you. Take some accountability, the common variable is you. | |||
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"Your profile doesn't exactly inspire for starters OP Maybe set a picture to public and or avatar too Think you might have just shot yourself in the foot with this thread lol Good luck " Yea I can’t see any women/couples being inspired to chat/meet following this. | |||
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"Would love to post a picture of my face on here but I can’t unfortunately and a lot of women’s accounts or couples always say they do not want to see dick pics or see anything like that on a page and I agree I probably have " Nothing stopping you showing a clothed shot with possibly the torso | |||
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"At this point I’m kinda past careing as tinder is probably best place for swingers for men as I’ve found out myself just saying what most men are dealing with on this website " Don't you have to post pics on tinder? | |||
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"At this point I’m kinda past careing as tinder is probably best place for swingers for men as I’ve found out myself just saying what most men are dealing with on this website " Not quite sure what the purpose of this thread was then? I personally don't like negative people, maybe that's your problem? What do you send in your initial messages? | |||
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"I read full bio always then look at photos if there is a interest I’ll say hey nice pictures wondering if you would be interested in talking and get to know more about each other I do have pictures that I will send privately and hope to hear back from you soon or if they have interests I’ll say I’m also interested in trying this as well " And does exactly the same approach work for you on the other site? | |||
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"At this point I’m kinda past careing as tinder is probably best place for swingers for men as I’ve found out myself just saying what most men are dealing with on this website " I actually agree with you. This site doesn’t seem suited to you and you probably are best on tinder. Good luck. | |||
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"I been here for 5 months now and still had no meets yet" I’m suprised to be honest because some women on here are looking for different races a lot | |||
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"Would love to post a picture of my face on here but I can’t unfortunately and a lot of women’s accounts or couples always say they do not want to see dick pics or see anything like that on a page and I agree I probably have " You don’t need to put a face pic up on you’re profile but if I was you I would change my profile picture and add more pics maybe with a shirt on or something like that? I’m really but trying to put you down but your profile would not Inspire me to messge back. Also just because it’s not working for you on here now please don’t put women/couples down by saying things like they think they are gods gift. It really doesn’t come across good and will put alot of potential meets off. Good luck and hope this helps | |||
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"Of course women have a choice everyone dose but just a shame that people don’t even reply back saying there not interested or anything " Read the FAQ regarding this, if you were a female on here you would know that replying thanks but no thanks invariably leads to a follow up abusive message!!! Not saying you like that but many are! | |||
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"Don’t get me wrong Im in contact with 3 women on here that are interested now and have looked at this thread " Sounds like you don't have a problem then! Thread complete | |||
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"I been here for 5 months now and still had no meets yet I’m suprised to be honest because some women on here are looking for different races a lot " What can I say people don't like me much but love it anyways | |||
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"Maybe take a look at the common variable….yourself?" Our thoughts exactly. | |||
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"Of course women have a choice everyone dose but just a shame that people don’t even reply back saying there not interested or anything Read the FAQ regarding this, if you were a female on here you would know that replying thanks but no thanks invariably leads to a follow up abusive message!!! Not saying you like that but many are! " well that’s just out of order if people are geting abuse | |||
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"Women have different difficulties than men do." such as just curious | |||
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"Women may have it easy for meets...but mate they are flooded with weird people messages and some insulting ones..so easy???? I don't think so." yes I agree they probably are but there is a block button for a reason | |||
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"Please keep it to the thread op not private message me " no problem | |||
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"Women have different difficulties than men do. such as just curious " Being bombarded with messages, people being demanding and/ or abusive, people sending messages that are unfit for print (because they contain ideas that should probably not be repeated), people whining when they don't get a reply. | |||
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"Women do not have it easy on this app. We have more choice yes, but we also have the abuse to deal with. But if fab isn't working for you, with the profile you created, then do something about it. " which is shit that women have to go thought and men as well go though abuse on here as I have because I have refused to meet women on here but it is a lot easier for women to get meeting someone on here | |||
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"How do you think posting this kind of thread has helped you? Some really good advice on here already. Take your time and have a look at well verified male profiles and take notes, work on yours. Also get yourself out to socialise with likeminded people, let them get to know your personality and charm. Good luck " been thinking about socials for a while to be honest | |||
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"Women do not have it easy on this app. We have more choice yes, but we also have the abuse to deal with. But if fab isn't working for you, with the profile you created, then do something about it. which is shit that women have to go thought and men as well go though abuse on here as I have because I have refused to meet women on here but it is a lot easier for women to get meeting someone on here " Yet there are so many very successful men on this app | |||
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"Women do not have it easy on this app. We have more choice yes, but we also have the abuse to deal with. But if fab isn't working for you, with the profile you created, then do something about it. which is shit that women have to go thought and men as well go though abuse on here as I have because I have refused to meet women on here but it is a lot easier for women to get meeting someone on here " It's easy for women to meet *anyone*. If a woman has standards, it's not easy. | |||
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"So your profile picture, the only one you have. You took that and thought ‘yep, that’s me looking as hot and interesting as possible, I’m going with this one’ FFS, you have to market yourself, you are in competition with a mass of other horny available men. Okay so no face shot but Dress shirt, jacket, look dapper, interesting, like you see the sun sometimes… that you look like you’ll turn up smelling clean. If you lack the self awareness of understanding the importance of your shopfront, no second chance to make a first impression, profile then you don’t stand a chance on any website let alone Fab " of course I understand that fully I’ve put on weight which is driving me mad and I’m at the gym everyday at work and I get where your Comeing from | |||
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"Women have different difficulties than men do. such as just curious Being bombarded with messages, people being demanding and/ or abusive, people sending messages that are unfit for print (because they contain ideas that should probably not be repeated), people whining when they don't get a reply." never done any of this myself but I agree it shouldn’t be happen | |||
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"Women have different difficulties than men do. such as just curious Being bombarded with messages, people being demanding and/ or abusive, people sending messages that are unfit for print (because they contain ideas that should probably not be repeated), people whining when they don't get a reply. never done any of this myself but I agree it shouldn’t be happen " Didn't say you did. But these are problems that women face. (Let's put it this way. Imagine every horrific thing sexually that you can. Unpleasant, illegal, unethical, the whole nine yards. You've just scratched the surface of some of the awful messages that women here get) | |||
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"Women have different difficulties than men do. such as just curious Being bombarded with messages, people being demanding and/ or abusive, people sending messages that are unfit for print (because they contain ideas that should probably not be repeated), people whining when they don't get a reply. never done any of this myself but I agree it shouldn’t be happen Didn't say you did. But these are problems that women face. (Let's put it this way. Imagine every horrific thing sexually that you can. Unpleasant, illegal, unethical, the whole nine yards. You've just scratched the surface of some of the awful messages that women here get)" I have received them as well by men when I was younger | |||
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"So your profile picture, the only one you have. You took that and thought ‘yep, that’s me looking as hot and interesting as possible, I’m going with this one’ FFS, you have to market yourself, you are in competition with a mass of other horny available men. Okay so no face shot but Dress shirt, jacket, look dapper, interesting, like you see the sun sometimes… that you look like you’ll turn up smelling clean. If you lack the self awareness of understanding the importance of your shopfront, no second chance to make a first impression, profile then you don’t stand a chance on any website let alone Fab of course I understand that fully I’ve put on weight which is driving me mad and I’m at the gym everyday at work and I get where your Comeing from " I’m genuinely glad for you that you are motivating yourself to tackle the weight gain - good for buddy but why use that picture. Get on and take a few pictures that are more flattering and interesting - put some stylish clothes on, use lighting, cool backgrounds, even go Black and White. Do better. I know you can. | |||
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"Madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. " no I’ve do other stuff to | |||
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"So your profile picture, the only one you have. You took that and thought ‘yep, that’s me looking as hot and interesting as possible, I’m going with this one’ FFS, you have to market yourself, you are in competition with a mass of other horny available men. Okay so no face shot but Dress shirt, jacket, look dapper, interesting, like you see the sun sometimes… that you look like you’ll turn up smelling clean. If you lack the self awareness of understanding the importance of your shopfront, no second chance to make a first impression, profile then you don’t stand a chance on any website let alone Fab of course I understand that fully I’ve put on weight which is driving me mad and I’m at the gym everyday at work and I get where your Comeing from I’m genuinely glad for you that you are motivating yourself to tackle the weight gain - good for buddy but why use that picture. Get on and take a few pictures that are more flattering and interesting - put some stylish clothes on, use lighting, cool backgrounds, even go Black and White. Do better. I know you can. " thanks man yeah used to have a six pack and a lot happen in my life so stopped going to the gym as I was very depressed | |||
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"Madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. no I’ve do other stuff to " You can’t just blame the website, you have to actually try here. Go to socials in your area, take some better pics. Engage with people! | |||
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"How do you know women have it easy? You're a man. I'm a woman, it's not easy. " ................................ This! | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject " There are no cock pics on your profile. With one you’ll struggle to get replies. More pics with different angles will result in more replies and meets | |||
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"Maybe take a look at the common variable….yourself?" This, most definitely THIS | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject " Your profile really could use a makeover mate… Use the search tab to search for men in your area, looking for women in the same age range you are, and compare the profiles of those guys with meet verifications, to yours. Then look at your profile, and ask yourself; if I was a woman, would I be interested in getting to know me? Fab is mostly about patience | |||
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"Maybe take a look at the common variable….yourself?" Harsh but very fair and wonderfully direct, love it. | |||
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"I think that it's more soul destroying to be a man on here than a woman. That's just my personal opinion though. Also..you could take every piece of advice going and still get nowhere. I don't think there's a special formula. " exactly this! | |||
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"Would love to post a picture of my face on here but I can’t unfortunately and a lot of women’s accounts or couples always say they do not want to see dick pics or see anything like that on a page and I agree I probably have " You can have Friends only photos! I get being cautious if you are in a delicate job, but no one is gonna meet a stranger from a sex site not knowing what they look like. | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject " I seem to do alright thank you | |||
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"Actually enraged that you think we have it EASY on here?!! The amount of abuse we get for no reason at all is ridiculous… We ignore, we get abuse. We politely decline, we get abuse…Hell, I get at least two random messages a day from people I’ve never interacted with to tell me I’m obese and stuck up! Your attitude is probably the reason you’re not getting much luck on here…." Well, I think you look delicious in my opinion X | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject " the amount of " Genuine " single females here are "tiny" minuscule .. when you consider overwhelming fraudulent profiles, or men just posting old pictures of their wives ... you ve got more chance chatting to a women in Tesco s , even if it s the self service saying to you ‘unexpected item in the bagging area’?....... Truth is women think all guys want a shag , they are right !!! that s the husbands job ... and don t rarely meet guys outside of swingers clubs ... have you considered that most people are not swingers or all that fab !! I think a reality check s n order ... Hey all the best don t forget to pay your subscripton ......... | |||
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"Actually enraged that you think we have it EASY on here?!! The amount of abuse we get for no reason at all is ridiculous… We ignore, we get abuse. We politely decline, we get abuse…Hell, I get at least two random messages a day from people I’ve never interacted with to tell me I’m obese and stuck up! Your attitude is probably the reason you’re not getting much luck on here…. Well, I think you look delicious in my opinion X" Aww you charmer! *blushes* | |||
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"I think that it's more soul destroying to be a man on here than a woman. That's just my personal opinion though. Also..you could take every piece of advice going and still get nowhere. I don't think there's a special formula. " Wouldn't say it was entirely given amount of crap that most women go through by some guys | |||
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"OP, women do not have it easy on here. Yes, we do get loads of messages (usually) but it's like shifting through all your junk mail in your mailbox just to find that one piece of mail you need/want/have been looking for. Opposite to the junk mail in your physical mailbox, the junk mail here tends to get impatient if you took your time to reply/may send abuse if you decline/may ask "why" in order to change your mind etc. Block button gets very handy in those situations. Oh, and most of those messaging you have not read your profile or decided they'd try anyway, despite what your profile says. So no, women don't have it easy on here, OP " The 34 year old woman local to me, who has been in Fab 3 months now, and has 38 meet veris from 29 guys might disagree….. | |||
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"Don’t get me wrong Im in contact with 3 women on here that are interested now and have looked at this thread " Bet they are running a mile now | |||
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"For every woman and couple on here there are hundreds of single men. I've not looked at your profile, but judging by the comments I expect you just need to make it stand out a bit. Talk about your experience, what you're looking for, something interesting about yourself. Don't have to show your face, but some creative photos even if it overly revealing will help. Also, if you're easily put out, disheartened or offended then it's not the place for you mate. Everyone has different struggles on a site like this, you just have to persist with it, remain respectful and hope you maybe get a bit lucky too." There may be 100's but that doesn't mean it's any easier. There could be just us and 1000 single guys on the whole site but if there were only 10 we were I terested in it would take a bloody long time going through all the profiles and there'd be no guarantee those 10 would have any interest in us. The ratios aren't an advantage. A | |||
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"For every woman and couple on here there are hundreds of single men. I've not looked at your profile, but judging by the comments I expect you just need to make it stand out a bit. Talk about your experience, what you're looking for, something interesting about yourself. Don't have to show your face, but some creative photos even if it overly revealing will help. Also, if you're easily put out, disheartened or offended then it's not the place for you mate. Everyone has different struggles on a site like this, you just have to persist with it, remain respectful and hope you maybe get a bit lucky too. There may be 100's but that doesn't mean it's any easier. There could be just us and 1000 single guys on the whole site but if there were only 10 we were I terested in it would take a bloody long time going through all the profiles and there'd be no guarantee those 10 would have any interest in us. The ratios aren't an advantage. A" Agree, it was more the point that women and couples will be bombarded due to the sheer numbers difference, so a lot of work required to actually find those worth talking to. Also that some work needs to go into a profile for that very reason, it needs to stand out. I've had a couple's profile before and have a few female friends on here too, so I've seen how crazy the inboxes get. | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject I seem to do alright thank you " Probably because you're a positive person who doesn't blame everyone else for being the reason that women aren't meeting them! Some men on here seem to be so self entitled that they deserve a meet just by actually being on here! | |||
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"OP, women do not have it easy on here. Yes, we do get loads of messages (usually) but it's like shifting through all your junk mail in your mailbox just to find that one piece of mail you need/want/have been looking for. Opposite to the junk mail in your physical mailbox, the junk mail here tends to get impatient if you took your time to reply/may send abuse if you decline/may ask "why" in order to change your mind etc. Block button gets very handy in those situations. Oh, and most of those messaging you have not read your profile or decided they'd try anyway, despite what your profile says. So no, women don't have it easy on here, OP The 34 year old woman local to me, who has been in Fab 3 months now, and has 38 meet veris from 29 guys might disagree….. " How about the guy near me who has 40 veris in 6 months. It works both ways. His profile is amazing, as are his pics and general outlook on here. He's not a negative nelly though | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject " You have been on at various times for 8 years and still have not learnt that your profile is your shop window. Put the effort in. Go to socials, get yourself out there. Drop the attitude and stop blaming women and couples for your lack of success. It's not fool proof but it will help. | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject You have been on at various times for 8 years and still have not learnt that your profile is your shop window. Put the effort in. Go to socials, get yourself out there. Drop the attitude and stop blaming women and couples for your lack of success. It's not fool proof but it will help. " Absolutely | |||
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"First thing all guys think when they get ignored on fab.. A. Not trying hard enough B. Need to change profile None of this is true Swinging is niche activity mostly by couples in clubs .... Best ignore all above advice , save yourself the pain and torture have people tell you what " they think your doing wrong" or " you need to stand out " don't renew your subscription , engage with people in the real world.. the real world is a less nastier and better place.. good luck Goes without saying anyone who s struggling with their mental health stop using this app... " | |||
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"Maybe take a look at the common variable….yourself? I highly agree there are to many men on this but some of the women and couples think there gods gift when talking to you and it’s just not interesting " If you feel that way then delete your account | |||
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"Don’t get me wrong Im in contact with 3 women on here that are interested now and have looked at this thread Sounds like you don't have a problem then! Thread complete " Can't quite understand what the problem is considering he is in contact with 3 women and meets more women on tinder than anywhere else..seems like a pointless thread to make. | |||
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"The reality is it's a numbers game. When it comes to single females there simply aren't enough of them to go around and standard economics will tell you how that plays out. The sexual marketplace is no different to the financial one. Low supply + high demand = High price. High supply + low demand = low price. When it comes to couples, they are going to want someone to play with who brings something to the table for them both. For some couples a single guy will do that, given that some actively get off on sharing their wife but for many (like us) the male is indifferent to the sharing itself, he's in it for mutual benefit so he's going to want another couple because ultimately you bring nothing to the table for him. The biological reality is that single males are always going to offer comparatively little value in the marketplace, almost regardless of their quality; though of course that helps. It's not personal, it's just a fact. You can either deal with that, keep on buggering on and bide your time, perhaps with some self improvement if there is scope for it. Or you can leave. Those are the options, because it's never going to change " Sorry but that's bollocks. How do uou work out single males 'offer comparatively little value in the marketplace' when there are plenty of couples looking for single guys, plenty of single women looking for single guys and plenty of guys looking for other guys? Just because some couples only look for other couples doesn't mean that's the majority by any stretch. There are far more dynamics in swinging than good old fashioned wife swapping. The attitude that any sector of the swinging community is superior or more in demand than any other is pretty narrow minded and arrogant. It may be a personal view, but it's certainly not 'fact'. A | |||
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"You aren't familiar with what the word "comparatively" means are you?" Oh I am completely. Just because single guys offer you little doesn't mean that they 'comparitively' offer little to anyone else. You're assuming your dynamic takes priority and is preferable over that of others. Times have changed. Swinging isn't just couples meeting other couples and hasn't been for decades. Singles, whether female or male are as welcome as wanted as couples. A | |||
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"So your profile picture, the only one you have. You took that and thought ‘yep, that’s me looking as hot and interesting as possible, I’m going with this one’ FFS, you have to market yourself, you are in competition with a mass of other horny available men. Okay so no face shot but Dress shirt, jacket, look dapper, interesting, like you see the sun sometimes… that you look like you’ll turn up smelling clean. If you lack the self awareness of understanding the importance of your shopfront, no second chance to make a first impression, profile then you don’t stand a chance on any website let alone Fab of course I understand that fully I’ve put on weight which is driving me mad and I’m at the gym everyday at work and I get where your Comeing from " Gym is a waste of time if you're not eating correctly. Try slimming world, it's a eye opener. It's amazing how much you can eat of the proper food. I went down from 18 10 to 16 St in a few months. To be honest, your pic is the elephant in the room. Sharp suit etc would come across much more pleasing to the eye. Think yourself lucky there's sites like this. Back in the day it was disco's, were the only way to meet girls, never mind swingers! Also, too many guys think fab is a sure fire way to get their Nat king cole, but if you don't put the effort in, zero response is inevitable. What is a female of your age looking for? Have you got it? The competition should be your benchmark and work towards that instead and I'm being brutally honest here, I think your aiming for the bigger girl because you think, if their big, they won't have an issue with your weight. Doesn't necessarily follow, that particular train of thought (if I'm correct in that assumption). Have you got a girlfriend? If not, think of the possible reasons why. If you have, stop your whinging. All meant as constructive feedback, chin up, look to the future! | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject " You say you've been on and off for 8 years...your current profile is 5 months old, you're "only" 27, and your bio is pretty lacking in effort. Are you just expecting us women to throw ourselves at you? Perhaps make some effort on your profile, and stop being so entitled and perhaps you'll find a bit more success Mrs | |||
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"The reality is it's a numbers game. When it comes to single females there simply aren't enough of them to go around and standard economics will tell you how that plays out. The sexual marketplace is no different to the financial one. Low supply + high demand = High price. High supply + low demand = low price. When it comes to couples, they are going to want someone to play with who brings something to the table for them both. For some couples a single guy will do that, given that some actively get off on sharing their wife but for many (like us) the male is indifferent to the sharing itself, he's in it for mutual benefit so he's going to want another couple because ultimately you bring nothing to the table for him. The biological reality is that single males are always going to offer comparatively little value in the marketplace, almost regardless of their quality; though of course that helps. It's not personal, it's just a fact. You can either deal with that, keep on buggering on and bide your time, perhaps with some self improvement if there is scope for it. Or you can leave. Those are the options, because it's never going to change Sorry but that's bollocks. How do uou work out single males 'offer comparatively little value in the marketplace' when there are plenty of couples looking for single guys, plenty of single women looking for single guys and plenty of guys looking for other guys? Just because some couples only look for other couples doesn't mean that's the majority by any stretch. There are far more dynamics in swinging than good old fashioned wife swapping. The attitude that any sector of the swinging community is superior or more in demand than any other is pretty narrow minded and arrogant. It may be a personal view, but it's certainly not 'fact'. A" Quite agree, if it wasn't for single guys at party's, a lot of women would be going home drier than the gobi desert. For some couples the male likes to stand back and watch, if no single guys, not enough todger to go round, simples! | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject " Don't listen to the usual fab womens response of you are at fault etc etc. You aren't. This is not a place to meet women, unfortunately. You are way better trying the regular dating apps, plenty kinky women on them with less attitude and power trip nonsense in their heads. I know that's an edgy comment but I'm afraid as many guys will testify it is the truth. | |||
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"I really struggle with the 'can't show face pics due to work' thing. I mean, anyone who sees you on here and says anything will also be outing themselves. Think about it 'I saw him on a swinging website' 'Really, you use a swinging website?' " Agree with this, we couldn't care less who sees us on here because if they do then clearly obv they are to...this face picture nonsense is just a get out clause for being fake or married! If you must be willing to ahow your face on websites like these, folk are not going to meet someone they have never seen.. | |||
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"Then I'm sure you can explain why there are so many single males complaining of having a hard time finding anyone. Far more than any other demographic from what I can see. It's not a value judgement on them as people, and you're surprisingly defensive about it for a couple. It's just a fact that on average they bring less to the table for what most people want than a couple or a single female does. For those looking for single males and single males only of course they bring value, there are just far fewer of those than there are of people looking for females or couples. Like I said, a numbers game. " Less than 1% of the site use the forums. Men tend to be more vocal when struggling to get meets and trust me - 99% of the time it has little to do with them being men and everything to do with factors such as profile content, message content, attitude and expectancy. Browse the forums more and you'll see almost as many posts from couples asking why they struggle to meet other couples and frequent posts bemoaning the fact they can't find magical unicorns. Most of the time it's again down to profile content and attitude/expectancy. As shown here by the simple claim that men bring less to the table than women or couples. They don't. Everyone in the world of swinging is an equal party. Nobody has higher status, nobody is more important and there's no hierarchy or league table. There are guys on Fab living the life of Riley, meeting frequently, in high demand and having as much fun as any couple or woman. As for me being 'surprisingly defensive about it for a couple' ? Why shouldn't I defend other site users? I'd do the same if someone was bemoaning couples, single women or TV's. The attitude shown by some couples that they and women are superior to lowly single men just perpetuates the myth that guys aren't welcome on the scene and that they're an inconvenience. Which couldn't be further from the truth. A | |||
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"At this point I’m kinda past careing as tinder is probably best place for swingers for men as I’ve found out myself just saying what most men are dealing with on this website " Not really sure you’re a swinger to be honest, more a guy wanting to get laid, in which case plenty of fish would be our suggestion | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject Don't listen to the usual fab womens response of you are at fault etc etc. You aren't. This is not a place to meet women, unfortunately. You are way better trying the regular dating apps, plenty kinky women on them with less attitude and power trip nonsense in their heads. I know that's an edgy comment but I'm afraid as many guys will testify it is the truth. " So why are you here? | |||
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"OP sounds like you are basically after vanilla one on one hook-ups. That is not really swinging and if that is all you want then other apps quite possibly a lot better. If you want more - threesomes, moresomes, house parties, clubs, socials, maybe something kinky, etc then this is a good place but you've got to put in the effort. " nope looking for other stuff to as vanilla is okay but I’m in to other things and don’t mind hook ups but like fwb and more | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject Don't listen to the usual fab womens response of you are at fault etc etc. You aren't. This is not a place to meet women, unfortunately. You are way better trying the regular dating apps, plenty kinky women on them with less attitude and power trip nonsense in their heads. I know that's an edgy comment but I'm afraid as many guys will testify it is the truth. " a man that talks sense at last | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject Don't listen to the usual fab womens response of you are at fault etc etc. You aren't. This is not a place to meet women, unfortunately. You are way better trying the regular dating apps, plenty kinky women on them with less attitude and power trip nonsense in their heads. I know that's an edgy comment but I'm afraid as many guys will testify it is the truth. " This is exactly the kind of guy that ruins women’s experience on here. Why be on here if that’s how you feel? Just awful attitude! | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject You say you've been on and off for 8 years...your current profile is 5 months old, you're "only" 27, and your bio is pretty lacking in effort. Are you just expecting us women to throw ourselves at you? Perhaps make some effort on your profile, and stop being so entitled and perhaps you'll find a bit more success Mrs" wouldn’t say I want women to throw themselfs at me been there worn the T-shirt and no need to had a lot of positive mails via this thread | |||
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"I really struggle with the 'can't show face pics due to work' thing. I mean, anyone who sees you on here and says anything will also be outing themselves. Think about it 'I saw him on a swinging website' 'Really, you use a swinging website?' " In a lot of cases work is wife spelled incorrectly | |||
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"My last word and it's a major red flag, you're 27, single and can't accommodate. Living with mammy and daddy perhaps!" haha I don’t acom due to nosey nebours and I met a girl on fet life that I took home and she stalked me for 4 mouths and had to get a restraining order as she keep trying to break in to my home so yeah single though choice and don’t like people in my home due to being a single father so grow up will you honestly | |||
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"So your profile picture, the only one you have. You took that and thought ‘yep, that’s me looking as hot and interesting as possible, I’m going with this one’ FFS, you have to market yourself, you are in competition with a mass of other horny available men. Okay so no face shot but Dress shirt, jacket, look dapper, interesting, like you see the sun sometimes… that you look like you’ll turn up smelling clean. If you lack the self awareness of understanding the importance of your shopfront, no second chance to make a first impression, profile then you don’t stand a chance on any website let alone Fab of course I understand that fully I’ve put on weight which is driving me mad and I’m at the gym everyday at work and I get where your Comeing from Gym is a waste of time if you're not eating correctly. Try slimming world, it's a eye opener. It's amazing how much you can eat of the proper food. I went down from 18 10 to 16 St in a few months. To be honest, your pic is the elephant in the room. Sharp suit etc would come across much more pleasing to the eye. Think yourself lucky there's sites like this. Back in the day it was disco's, were the only way to meet girls, never mind swingers! Also, too many guys think fab is a sure fire way to get their Nat king cole, but if you don't put the effort in, zero response is inevitable. What is a female of your age looking for? Have you got it? The competition should be your benchmark and work towards that instead and I'm being brutally honest here, I think your aiming for the bigger girl because you think, if their big, they won't have an issue with your weight. Doesn't necessarily follow, that particular train of thought (if I'm correct in that assumption). Have you got a girlfriend? If not, think of the possible reasons why. If you have, stop your whinging. All meant as constructive feedback, chin up, look to the future! " to be fair I’m not even that big I eat better than most and no I honesty like bigger women it’s a preference always has been | |||
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"My last word and it's a major red flag, you're 27, single and can't accommodate. Living with mammy and daddy perhaps! haha I don’t acom due to nosey nebours and I met a girl on fet life that I took home and she stalked me for 4 mouths and had to get a restraining order as she keep trying to break in to my home so yeah single though choice and don’t like people in my home due to being a single father so grow up will you honestly " Well, why don't you say you can't accommodate for xyz reasons, or people will think you're married or living at mums house. With all of the above comments, you still haven't changed your pic or bio. Your going to have to totally re-brand yourself, new handle, better pics and bio. As it is, nothing will change and I would suggest, probably get worse. Reason being, you haven't been successful so far and this post isn't doing you any favours. Don't think it's me that has to grow up, I'm not the one complaining about lack of attention! F | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject Don't listen to the usual fab womens response of you are at fault etc etc. You aren't. This is not a place to meet women, unfortunately. You are way better trying the regular dating apps, plenty kinky women on them with less attitude and power trip nonsense in their heads. I know that's an edgy comment but I'm afraid as many guys will testify it is the truth. " I agree,a lot of guys will testify what you said is the truth. They are the ones who make almost no effort on here,look down on the women on here and think it's dial a ride and moan about it constantly on the forums that they also look down on. And yes also, SOME women have inflated egos on here but blame the ones who put them on a pedestal for that. My opinion not that it counts for much is everyone is equal on here no one has power over anyone else.No one else is to blame for anyone else's lack of success. Especially when zero effort is made and moaning is never attractive. I don't give advice on here anymore because it is completely pointless because usually it's ignored anyhow,and what I look for is not want others look for. There are plenty of men who have great success on here. If you're not one then maybe look at yourself and why it might be the case. If ye have more luck on dating sites then why not concentrate on those why would you waste your time on here if that's the case. | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject Don't listen to the usual fab womens response of you are at fault etc etc. You aren't. This is not a place to meet women, unfortunately. You are way better trying the regular dating apps, plenty kinky women on them with less attitude and power trip nonsense in their heads. I know that's an edgy comment but I'm afraid as many guys will testify it is the truth. " Utter Bollox, I’m on Fab ONLY to meet women and couples for interesting, kinky and exciting sex, I don’t want a vanilla monogamous relationship. I’ve used dating apps so I know how they compare and they don’t. Show me one Tinder date where you’ve turned up and your date is at the door wearing just lingerie, a smile and twirling a pair of handcuffs. I suspect the complaints about “attitude” and “power trips” are simply women exercising their right to choose… and they’re not choosing you. 8 years and one meet? If you bothered to fine tune and improve your profile, go to a social event or two, network and connect… but you don’t… instead you have your little forum tantrums and blame the women. Check your attitude and examine yourself. | |||
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"OP, women do not have it easy on here. Yes, we do get loads of messages (usually) but it's like shifting through all your junk mail in your mailbox just to find that one piece of mail you need/want/have been looking for. Opposite to the junk mail in your physical mailbox, the junk mail here tends to get impatient if you took your time to reply/may send abuse if you decline/may ask "why" in order to change your mind etc. Block button gets very handy in those situations. Oh, and most of those messaging you have not read your profile or decided they'd try anyway, despite what your profile says. So no, women don't have it easy on here, OP The 34 year old woman local to me, who has been in Fab 3 months now, and has 38 meet veris from 29 guys might disagree….. How about the guy near me who has 40 veris in 6 months. It works both ways. His profile is amazing, as are his pics and general outlook on here. He's not a negative nelly though " Perhaps you could share this profile’s name here, so the OP and other single guys could compare their profiles against his? All positive help works for the greater good of all | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject Don't listen to the usual fab womens response of you are at fault etc etc. You aren't. This is not a place to meet women, unfortunately. You are way better trying the regular dating apps, plenty kinky women on them with less attitude and power trip nonsense in their heads. I know that's an edgy comment but I'm afraid as many guys will testify it is the truth. " It is exactly the place to meet women...however guys need to realise that they need to make some effort, instead of lazy profiles, with no pics. You're in a crowded pool, lads - make yourselves stand out! Mrs | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject Don't listen to the usual fab womens response of you are at fault etc etc. You aren't. This is not a place to meet women, unfortunately. You are way better trying the regular dating apps, plenty kinky women on them with less attitude and power trip nonsense in their heads. I know that's an edgy comment but I'm afraid as many guys will testify it is the truth. Utter Bollox, I’m on Fab ONLY to meet women and couples for interesting, kinky and exciting sex, I don’t want a vanilla monogamous relationship. I’ve used dating apps so I know how they compare and they don’t. Show me one Tinder date where you’ve turned up and your date is at the door wearing just lingerie, a smile and twirling a pair of handcuffs. I suspect the complaints about “attitude” and “power trips” are simply women exercising their right to choose… and they’re not choosing you. 8 years and one meet? If you bothered to fine tune and improve your profile, go to a social event or two, network and connect… but you don’t… instead you have your little forum tantrums and blame the women. Check your attitude and examine yourself. " Mantrums | |||
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"I really struggle with the 'can't show face pics due to work' thing. I mean, anyone who sees you on here and says anything will also be outing themselves. Think about it 'I saw him on a swinging website' 'Really, you use a swinging website?' " Yea it's nonsense. We all have jobs and other things going on. It's an excuse. | |||
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"Think a lot of men are finding it hard on this app to get a women to talk to not even for a meet I’ve been on and off here for 8 years and i will say I’ve only ever had one meet the whole time I’ve been on here anybody want to shade some light on this subject Don't listen to the usual fab womens response of you are at fault etc etc. You aren't. This is not a place to meet women, unfortunately. You are way better trying the regular dating apps, plenty kinky women on them with less attitude and power trip nonsense in their heads. I know that's an edgy comment but I'm afraid as many guys will testify it is the truth. " This is laughable. Why is it always those that perhaps struggle on here have this chip on their shoulder. It couldn't possibly be you. Yes other apps are available. Perhaps should check your own attitude. | |||
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"My last word and it's a major red flag, you're 27, single and can't accommodate. Living with mammy and daddy perhaps! haha I don’t acom due to nosey nebours and I met a girl on fet life that I took home and she stalked me for 4 mouths and had to get a restraining order as she keep trying to break in to my home so yeah single though choice and don’t like people in my home due to being a single father so grow up will you honestly " Think you live in fantasy land | |||
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"Hmm, so we are new here and this kind of rant is really off putting to the site and to the individual making it. No one is owed a meet and the attitude coming off here would make me nervous, even with my partner with me. I love having fun and enjoy sharing our sex life but there is always the option to say stop or no, change your mind (for any party involved) etc. This post comes across as "this is what I want. I deserve it. I dont care about you and what you want" It isnt a positive read at all. Just the opinion of a newbie and it doesnt matter what i think but really doesnt paint a positive opinion at all. " ^^this right here! As a single woman I find it very unnerving as well. | |||
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"Hmm, so we are new here and this kind of rant is really off putting to the site and to the individual making it. No one is owed a meet and the attitude coming off here would make me nervous, even with my partner with me. I love having fun and enjoy sharing our sex life but there is always the option to say stop or no, change your mind (for any party involved) etc. This post comes across as "this is what I want. I deserve it. I dont care about you and what you want" It isnt a positive read at all. Just the opinion of a newbie and it doesnt matter what i think but really doesnt paint a positive opinion at all. ^^this right here! As a single woman I find it very unnerving as well. " Don’t take this the wrong way, but your verifications show you to be a very confident lady. I need to find a Friday to get over and try Shhh soon | |||
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"There is a lot of helpful advice here and I hope the OP takes heed. Coming onto the forum and complaining that people turning down a message because either they don't find the person attractive or because the profile is poor is not being up their own arse. Everyone has standards, if you make no effort then why should people bother?" To be fair to the OP, he came on to the forum looking for advice, and some people have given him positive responses about making improvements to his profile, so hopefully he will take these onboard, and go on to enjoy a more ‘fabulous’ experience in here than he has so far The difficulty with this site is the lack of responses to messages. You can see your messages have either been unopened, or read then no reply. I appreciate how the ladies in here have an altogether Polar opposite experience, but there’s nothing more frustrating than silence…. I hope the OP can take something from this thread | |||
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"Hmm, so we are new here and this kind of rant is really off putting to the site and to the individual making it. No one is owed a meet and the attitude coming off here would make me nervous, even with my partner with me. I love having fun and enjoy sharing our sex life but there is always the option to say stop or no, change your mind (for any party involved) etc. This post comes across as "this is what I want. I deserve it. I dont care about you and what you want" It isnt a positive read at all. Just the opinion of a newbie and it doesnt matter what i think but really doesnt paint a positive opinion at all. ^^this right here! As a single woman I find it very unnerving as well. Don’t take this the wrong way, but your verifications show you to be a very confident lady. I need to find a Friday to get over and try Shhh soon " Thank you if you notice though, my verifications are mostly from the club where I feel safe and people are genuine. I’ve only met a handful of men from fab itself. I go on Saturdays so if you’re ever going feel free to message and come say hi xx | |||
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"There is a lot of helpful advice here and I hope the OP takes heed. Coming onto the forum and complaining that people turning down a message because either they don't find the person attractive or because the profile is poor is not being up their own arse. Everyone has standards, if you make no effort then why should people bother? To be fair to the OP, he came on to the forum looking for advice, and some people have given him positive responses about making improvements to his profile, so hopefully he will take these onboard, and go on to enjoy a more ‘fabulous’ experience in here than he has so far The difficulty with this site is the lack of responses to messages. You can see your messages have either been unopened, or read then no reply. I appreciate how the ladies in here have an altogether Polar opposite experience, but there’s nothing more frustrating than silence…. I hope the OP can take something from this thread " Yet the FAQs clearly state that no response is a no thanks, so why do people get frustrated over something that we are all told will happen? Do they think they're special so should get treated differently? People who demand a response grind my gears because they clearly haven't bothered to read the FAQs. | |||
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"There is a lot of helpful advice here and I hope the OP takes heed. Coming onto the forum and complaining that people turning down a message because either they don't find the person attractive or because the profile is poor is not being up their own arse. Everyone has standards, if you make no effort then why should people bother? To be fair to the OP, he came on to the forum looking for advice, and some people have given him positive responses about making improvements to his profile, so hopefully he will take these onboard, and go on to enjoy a more ‘fabulous’ experience in here than he has so far The difficulty with this site is the lack of responses to messages. You can see your messages have either been unopened, or read then no reply. I appreciate how the ladies in here have an altogether Polar opposite experience, but there’s nothing more frustrating than silence…. I hope the OP can take something from this thread " You are owed nothing. No one Is due a response of any description. A no response means not interested wether message is read or not. It can be frustrating but that's the way it is for all. Moaning about it isn't going to change it or the fact that it's clearly stated in the f.a.qs | |||
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"Hmm, so we are new here and this kind of rant is really off putting to the site and to the individual making it. No one is owed a meet and the attitude coming off here would make me nervous, even with my partner with me. I love having fun and enjoy sharing our sex life but there is always the option to say stop or no, change your mind (for any party involved) etc. This post comes across as "this is what I want. I deserve it. I dont care about you and what you want" It isnt a positive read at all. Just the opinion of a newbie and it doesnt matter what i think but really doesnt paint a positive opinion at all. ^^this right here! As a single woman I find it very unnerving as well. Don’t take this the wrong way, but your verifications show you to be a very confident lady. I need to find a Friday to get over and try Shhh soon Thank you if you notice though, my verifications are mostly from the club where I feel safe and people are genuine. I’ve only met a handful of men from fab itself. I go on Saturdays so if you’re ever going feel free to message and come say hi xx " Are solo guys allowed in Shhh on a Saturday night? It’s usually couples and solo fems on Saturdays for clubs I thought? x | |||
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