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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray

Hi folks, we were made aware of someone with the account name fireburner2020 on twitter has stollen a video and posted it on twitter, not only that under the video it says "she is on fab" there are a few other pics and vids that I can see with the same underneath, this is a total violation of our privacy, this user will be on here obv , but they have clearly had their account banned/removed before as ot states this is a new account as other was banned.

We have no idea what to do about this, I have put in a complaint to twitter themselves but do we go to the police with this or what?

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester


"Hi folks, we were made aware of someone with the account name fireburner2020 on twitter has stollen a video and posted it on twitter, not only that under the video it says "she is on fab" there are a few other pics and vids that I can see with the same underneath, this is a total violation of our privacy, this user will be on here obv , but they have clearly had their account banned/removed before as ot states this is a new account as other was banned.

We have no idea what to do about this, I have put in a complaint to twitter themselves but do we go to the police with this or what?

"
yes go to the police your vid may end up being publicly displayed and seen by millions but the guy will get his comeuppance

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

It's prudent to be mindful of what you upload to the internet

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By *BootyfulDayWoman
over a year ago

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Not sure how the police will proceed with it if you do go to them.

I’ve usually gone with the assumption that once you upload something to the internet there’s a chance it will be copied/spread. Is there not that saying that once you post something to the internet it will be there forever, or that’s one way to think before you post.

Try doing a reverse image search to see if they posted on any other sites and if they have contact the website owner to see if it can be removed.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"It's prudent to be mindful of what you upload to the internet"

This.

Technically it's a violation of intellectual property rights, so the police wouldn't get involved unless there was any element of bla*kmail, coercion or it fell under revenge porn laws, which it doesn't as you have uploaded the content yourself on here.

Twitter should act and remove the video as long as you have provided evidence that it is yours. Its no different to the procedure to report a nicked photo on Facey.

The golden rule if you don't want to run the risk of your face ending up on multiple Internet porn sites is to keep it out of any photo/video content you publicly display. That way you can't be identified.

But you run the risk of someone downloading/using your content every time you upload it to the Internet, whether it's watermarked or not. Most porn sites now require users to be verified to ensure they don't use nicked content but social media sites such as twitter (one of the few that still allows hardcore content) allow anonymous profiles and don't verify users, so the risk is greater there.

This is one of the reasons many believe social media accounts should require some form of ID verification when opened, but hey - the good old 'freedom of speech' brigade have also shouted down that suggestion, enabling people to hide behind profile and pretend to be who they're not.

A

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By *oxesMan
over a year ago

Southend, Essex


"Hi folks, we were made aware of someone with the account name fireburner2020 on twitter has stollen a video and posted it on twitter, not only that under the video it says "she is on fab" there are a few other pics and vids that I can see with the same underneath, this is a total violation of our privacy, this user will be on here obv , but they have clearly had their account banned/removed before as ot states this is a new account as other was banned.

We have no idea what to do about this, I have put in a complaint to twitter themselves but do we go to the police with this or what?

"

I'm sorry to hear about this. You might be able to get them done for a breach of copyright.

I hope this don't sound like victim blankinyg but have you thought of creating a new account so that he can't gain access to your content?

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

Its an offence under section 33 of the criminal and courts act. Definitely a police matter.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Its an offence under section 33 of the criminal and courts act. Definitely a police matter."

It's not unfortunately.

"Section 33 of the Act makes it a criminal offence to disclose, or threaten to disclose, private photographs or film which show people engaged in sexual activity or depicted in a sexual way (including where their genitals are exposed), where what is shown would not usually be seen in public."

As the content has been willfully uploaded to a publicly accessible website (Fab) it's already in the public domain. Section 33 deals with revenge porn and publishing content that was previously private, for example home made sex tapes on people's phones that got hacked or revenge porn from ex partners.

A

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante


"Its an offence under section 33 of the criminal and courts act. Definitely a police matter.

It's not unfortunately.

"Section 33 of the Act makes it a criminal offence to disclose, or threaten to disclose, private photographs or film which show people engaged in sexual activity or depicted in a sexual way (including where their genitals are exposed), where what is shown would not usually be seen in public."

As the content has been willfully uploaded to a publicly accessible website (Fab) it's already in the public domain. Section 33 deals with revenge porn and publishing content that was previously private, for example home made sex tapes on people's phones that got hacked or revenge porn from ex partners.

A"

Although I'm not a legal expert I posted that as its on the government website. The revenge porn part was added to the act in 2021 so is an extension to the existing law. I could be wrong but if it was me I would be going to the police.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

The Act extends the existing offence of disclosing private sexual photographs and films with intent to cause distress at section 33 of the Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015 to include ‘threats’ to disclose such material.

The terms of the existing offence capture the disclosure of private sexual photographs and films without the consent of an individual who appears in them and with intent to cause that individual distress. The disclosure offence applies in England and Wales and is subject to a maximum penalty of two years’ imprisonment, or a fine, or both.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

Just noticed the OP is in Scotland so hopefully a similar law exists there.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Its an offence under section 33 of the criminal and courts act. Definitely a police matter.

It's not unfortunately.

"Section 33 of the Act makes it a criminal offence to disclose, or threaten to disclose, private photographs or film which show people engaged in sexual activity or depicted in a sexual way (including where their genitals are exposed), where what is shown would not usually be seen in public."

As the content has been willfully uploaded to a publicly accessible website (Fab) it's already in the public domain. Section 33 deals with revenge porn and publishing content that was previously private, for example home made sex tapes on people's phones that got hacked or revenge porn from ex partners.

A

Although I'm not a legal expert I posted that as its on the government website. The revenge porn part was added to the act in 2021 so is an extension to the existing law. I could be wrong but if it was me I would be going to the police."

Yep. It was amended in 2021.

But you can't claim something has been put in the public domain against your will when you yourself have already put it there. Even if it's added to a new site.

It would only be an intellectual/copyright offence and the police don't get involved with those, even though the maximum penalty is 5 years jail or a £50k fine.

A

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

Obi Fox is right.

If the video has been uploaded publicly

on here and shared elsewhere unless the person sharing it has identified the OP in their posts no offence has been committed.

It's not revenge porn (public pictures shared elsewhere publicly does not meet that criteria) and there's no intent to cause distress because the person in the video isn't identified.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obi Fox is right.

If the video has been uploaded publicly

on here and shared elsewhere unless the person sharing it has identified the OP in their posts no offence has been committed.

It's not revenge porn (public pictures shared elsewhere publicly does not meet that criteria) and there's no intent to cause distress because the person in the video isn't identified."

I think your right, when it comes to public gallery pics. Friends or private pics well that's a different story.

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By *oxesMan
over a year ago

Southend, Essex


"Its an offence under section 33 of the criminal and courts act. Definitely a police matter.

It's not unfortunately.

"Section 33 of the Act makes it a criminal offence to disclose, or threaten to disclose, private photographs or film which show people engaged in sexual activity or depicted in a sexual way (including where their genitals are exposed), where what is shown would not usually be seen in public."

As the content has been willfully uploaded to a publicly accessible website (Fab) it's already in the public domain. Section 33 deals with revenge porn and publishing content that was previously private, for example home made sex tapes on people's phones that got hacked or revenge porn from ex partners.

A

Although I'm not a legal expert I posted that as its on the government website. The revenge porn part was added to the act in 2021 so is an extension to the existing law. I could be wrong but if it was me I would be going to the police.

Yep. It was amended in 2021.

But you can't claim something has been put in the public domain against your will when you yourself have already put it there. Even if it's added to a new site.

It would only be an intellectual/copyright offence and the police don't get involved with those, even though the maximum penalty is 5 years jail or a £50k fine.

A"

So it's definitely a copyright issue. So has the OP asked for a DMC take down request. Twitter being a us company are hot on that thing.

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"It's prudent to be mindful of what you upload to the internet"

Lesson learned.

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Hi folks, we were made aware of someone with the account name fireburner2020 on twitter has stollen a video and posted it on twitter, not only that under the video it says "she is on fab" there are a few other pics and vids that I can see with the same underneath, this is a total violation of our privacy, this user will be on here obv , but they have clearly had their account banned/removed before as ot states this is a new account as other was banned.

We have no idea what to do about this, I have put in a complaint to twitter themselves but do we go to the police with this or what?

I'm sorry to hear about this. You might be able to get them done for a breach of copyright.

I hope this don't sound like victim blankinyg but have you thought of creating a new account so that he can't gain access to your content?"

Tbf that isn't going to make a difference because we don't know who it is from here that's doing it...the profile name is the one on twitter..not on here.

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Obi Fox is right.

If the video has been uploaded publicly

on here and shared elsewhere unless the person sharing it has identified the OP in their posts no offence has been committed.

It's not revenge porn (public pictures shared elsewhere publicly does not meet that criteria) and there's no intent to cause distress because the person in the video isn't identified."

Maybe not identified but certainly told everyone we are on fab, this then allowes people to search on here and potentially identify us.

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Its an offence under section 33 of the criminal and courts act. Definitely a police matter.

It's not unfortunately.

"Section 33 of the Act makes it a criminal offence to disclose, or threaten to disclose, private photographs or film which show people engaged in sexual activity or depicted in a sexual way (including where their genitals are exposed), where what is shown would not usually be seen in public."

As the content has been willfully uploaded to a publicly accessible website (Fab) it's already in the public domain. Section 33 deals with revenge porn and publishing content that was previously private, for example home made sex tapes on people's phones that got hacked or revenge porn from ex partners.

A

Although I'm not a legal expert I posted that as its on the government website. The revenge porn part was added to the act in 2021 so is an extension to the existing law. I could be wrong but if it was me I would be going to the police.

Yep. It was amended in 2021.

But you can't claim something has been put in the public domain against your will when you yourself have already put it there. Even if it's added to a new site.

It would only be an intellectual/copyright offence and the police don't get involved with those, even though the maximum penalty is 5 years jail or a £50k fine.

A

So it's definitely a copyright issue. So has the OP asked for a DMC take down request. Twitter being a us company are hot on that thing."

We have reported it to twitter, but this person has obv made other accounts that have been removed/banned and then gone ahead to make another one, the person states this on their profile.

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"Obi Fox is right.

If the video has been uploaded publicly

on here and shared elsewhere unless the person sharing it has identified the OP in their posts no offence has been committed.

It's not revenge porn (public pictures shared elsewhere publicly does not meet that criteria) and there's no intent to cause distress because the person in the video isn't identified.

Maybe not identified but certainly told everyone we are on fab, this then allowes people to search on here and potentially identify us. "

But that's the risk you pose by having public pictures and videos?

What he has done is shit and indefensible but it's not increased your liklihood of being identified. Amd it's not illegal unless it was a video uou sent privately which it isn't

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray

On further looking into this account, looks like its a couple that's doing it...from on fab.

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"It's prudent to be mindful of what you upload to the internet

Lesson learned."

So you'll be aware your face is still clearly visible here?

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"It's prudent to be mindful of what you upload to the internet

Lesson learned.

So you'll be aware your face is still clearly visible here?"

I hadn't viewed the OP's profile until you posted this.

I was under the impression there was concern that they could be outed publicly due to the video being posted on Twitter, but with clearly visible face photos and videos being openly available to view on here that can't be an issue, surely?

Yes, it's not acceptable for someone to steal content, but Fab is a free site where you can join anonymously and view any public images/videos. It's no less or more public than Twitter, although probably a site with less users.

If you don't want to run the risk of people identifying you then the easiest way is to make it difficult for them to do so - simply by not showing your face.

A

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Hi folks, we were made aware of someone with the account name fireburner2020 on twitter has stollen a video and posted it on twitter, not only that under the video it says "she is on fab" there are a few other pics and vids that I can see with the same underneath, this is a total violation of our privacy, this user will be on here obv , but they have clearly had their account banned/removed before as ot states this is a new account as other was banned.

We have no idea what to do about this, I have put in a complaint to twitter themselves but do we go to the police with this or what?

"

Not sure but I'd say police.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And here we come to why the pointless legal disclaimer that many people stick on their profiles - despite site owners mentioning in the FAQs that they'd rather they didn't - is completely meaningless.

Once you have posted something on the Internet, it is in the public domain and you have no control over it

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By *elaninMaverickWoman
over a year ago

near Putney Heath


"On further looking into this account, looks like its a couple that's doing it...from on fab."

That's quite sad. Because you have your face and easily identifiable tatttoes on here, I would suggest being more careful.

I have my face but my face is already on the internet's public domain from paid work and volunteer work.

I don't have any identifiable tattoos and my more sexually explicit photos are private for friends only.

My only suggestion is to hide your profile, watermark your photos and videos and make all explicit content friends only, and then limit how many friends you have. I know people want to be exhibitionist on Fab but for me it's a bit too exploitative for me to make my more explicit content accessible to many people.

Good luck. They put the pictures of the current Princess of Wales's tits while she was on a private estate on vacation and spread it internationally. No doubt her children will have to deal with social media too when they get older.

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By *eepgliderMan
over a year ago

Chacewater

It seems simply wrong to disclose information without permission AND outside the domain in which it was originally present. "Inappropriate disclosure" should be an offence. Maybe not easily punishable. But when someone like a teacher has their "leisure" videos circulated to the school parents' association, it makes it that the "perpetrator", the one were duty is to find and punish, is the one who commited the offence by "inappropriately disclosing" in a place the information didn't belong.

Law hasn't caught-up.

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"It's prudent to be mindful of what you upload to the internet

Lesson learned.

So you'll be aware your face is still clearly visible here?"

Yes we are aware and will be doing something about it

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"It's prudent to be mindful of what you upload to the internet

Lesson learned.

So you'll be aware your face is still clearly visible here?

Yes we are aware and will be doing something about it "

When?

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By *queakyclean69erCouple
over a year ago

Torquay / Fleet


"Its an offence under section 33 of the criminal and courts act. Definitely a police matter.

It's not unfortunately.

"Section 33 of the Act makes it a criminal offence to disclose, or threaten to disclose, private photographs or film which show people engaged in sexual activity or depicted in a sexual way (including where their genitals are exposed), where what is shown would not usually be seen in public."

As the content has been willfully uploaded to a publicly accessible website (Fab) it's already in the public domain. Section 33 deals with revenge porn and publishing content that was previously private, for example home made sex tapes on people's phones that got hacked or revenge porn from ex partners.

A"

Completely agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi folks, we were made aware of someone with the account name fireburner2020 on twitter has stollen a video and posted it on twitter, not only that under the video it says "she is on fab" there are a few other pics and vids that I can see with the same underneath, this is a total violation of our privacy, this user will be on here obv , but they have clearly had their account banned/removed before as ot states this is a new account as other was banned.

We have no idea what to do about this, I have put in a complaint to twitter themselves but do we go to the police with this or what?

"
I'd get off the internet if I were you, you're obviously a bit dim when it comes to online behaviour.

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By *otsMan
over a year ago

Higham

There seems to be a lot of this happening now snd I have close down my profiles and this one I gave removed ant photos.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Hi folks, we were made aware of someone with the account name fireburner2020 on twitter has stollen a video and posted it on twitter, not only that under the video it says "she is on fab" there are a few other pics and vids that I can see with the same underneath, this is a total violation of our privacy, this user will be on here obv , but they have clearly had their account banned/removed before as ot states this is a new account as other was banned.

We have no idea what to do about this, I have put in a complaint to twitter themselves but do we go to the police with this or what?

I'd get off the internet if I were you, you're obviously a bit dim when it comes to online behaviour. "

Unkind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi folks, we were made aware of someone with the account name fireburner2020 on twitter has stollen a video and posted it on twitter, not only that under the video it says "she is on fab" there are a few other pics and vids that I can see with the same underneath, this is a total violation of our privacy, this user will be on here obv , but they have clearly had their account banned/removed before as ot states this is a new account as other was banned.

We have no idea what to do about this, I have put in a complaint to twitter themselves but do we go to the police with this or what?

I'd get off the internet if I were you, you're obviously a bit dim when it comes to online behaviour.

Unkind "

Naive would have been a better word.

It's all be covered in this thread OP.

The issue is you have made a rather large photo album of nudes that clearly include your face public on the internet by posting them public on Fab. Once you have done that they are out there and will end up on anything from 4chsn to Reddit to incel.is.

What this person has done is very wrong but there are many sick individuals out there, dreamers, fantasists and incels who won't think twice about using your nudes for nefarious purposes, even sending them to your friends and family via Facebook and over main stream media there's been cases of them been sent to people's employers costing them thier job / career.

All pictures have meta data in them and tools like reverse image search and similar can be used on your pictures to find similar matches on other sites e.g Facebook, Instagram etc.

Your current profile does lead you wide open to this. Now hopefully this thread and your recent experience has informed you of the risks and you can decide if they are risks your happy taking for the benefits of sharing your face pic nudes publicly (which many people enjoy doing).

KJ

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By *queakyclean69erCouple
over a year ago

Torquay / Fleet


"Hi folks, we were made aware of someone with the account name fireburner2020 on twitter has stollen a video and posted it on twitter, not only that under the video it says "she is on fab" there are a few other pics and vids that I can see with the same underneath, this is a total violation of our privacy, this user will be on here obv , but they have clearly had their account banned/removed before as ot states this is a new account as other was banned.

We have no idea what to do about this, I have put in a complaint to twitter themselves but do we go to the police with this or what?

I'd get off the internet if I were you, you're obviously a bit dim when it comes to online behaviour. "

Absolutely no need for this comment

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By *izzy.Woman
over a year ago

Stoke area

I'm surprised that your profile photos still have explicit photographs showing your face. Knowing you have just had this issue, it might be sensible to hide those, at least for a short while.

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By *ffanotdykeCouple
over a year ago

Telford

This thread is exactly why we don't post public pictures.

We try to assess any new contacts with a few messages before we release any photos and when we do it is in the auto remove formatt which deletes the photo immediately it has been viewed.

We steer clear of all the social contact platforms. We know it restricts our activities but better safe than sorry.

G&A

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