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"Oh la … sorry to hear that you’ve not been getting the benefit of loquacious linguality-I fund the verbal chase extremely erotic -but then I’m a bit older..? X x" Loquacious is a great word | |||
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"Just putting this out there!!!! Can anyone exsplain why it is that single guys seem to have lost the art of being able to talk to couples and be able to charm there way into a wives knickers. Most women don’t like to be used as a peice of meat and just groped and wanked over. I’m sure most single guys would find they would have far more luck at clubs if they took the time to speak to women and couples and read the signs rather than just follow people around and try and join in when seen playing. What are your thoughts both couples and single guys." I can think of one simple explanation - they've seen your "If you like the pics and want to fuck me, fab me boys. Xxxx" status, and think that's all they have to do! | |||
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"It is a pitty that men don’t seem to realise that women need more than wham bang and move on. It’s not all about just having sex. The thrill of the chase, sexual chemistry and attraction all play a big part. " I think many do understand that | |||
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"Just putting this out there!!!! Can anyone exsplain why it is that single guys seem to have lost the art of being able to talk to couples and be able to charm there way into a wives knickers. Most women don’t like to be used as a peice of meat and just groped and wanked over. I’m sure most single guys would find they would have far more luck at clubs if they took the time to speak to women and couples and read the signs rather than just follow people around and try and join in when seen playing. What are your thoughts both couples and single guys." This subject is actually covered in our profile. The guy who can chat and flirt with Mrs H is way ahead of the silent types wandering around the club waving their cocks at anything that moves. | |||
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"Just putting this out there!!!! Can anyone exsplain why it is that single guys seem to have lost the art of being able to talk to couples and be able to charm there way into a wives knickers. Most women don’t like to be used as a peice of meat and just groped and wanked over. I’m sure most single guys would find they would have far more luck at clubs if they took the time to speak to women and couples and read the signs rather than just follow people around and try and join in when seen playing. What are your thoughts both couples and single guys. I can think of one simple explanation - they've seen your "If you like the pics and want to fuck me, fab me boys. Xxxx" status, and think that's all they have to do! " I think that's a reasonable point. | |||
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"It is a pitty that men don’t seem to realise that women need more than wham bang and move on. It’s not all about just having sex. The thrill of the chase, sexual chemistry and attraction all play a big part. " For most, yes, that's possibly true - but not for all... ....I can think of a few instances when I've been contacted by women who, to put it bluntly, had simply pre-determined that I was going to fuck them... | |||
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"I hear you, OP. I have come across plenty of "mutes", who seem to lose their ability to speak as soon as they see a woman in a club, or maybe even as soon as they walk into a club. Same as yourselves, I need some basic human interaction, even just in the form of "hi", rather than a man coming at me with his cock out. I think men get confused by the fact that us women need some attraction and chemistry to actually want to have sex with someone. And by the fact that, even if they do say "hi" to us, or more if we're lucky, that still does not guarantee them getting their dick wet. Because we still need to be attracted to them enough. But we wouldn't know whether or not we're attracted to them enough unless they speak to us. And that's, sadly, a vicious circle . " I imagine men lose the ability to speak to a single woman in a club, because they probably can't believe there's actually a single woman in there..... | |||
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"It is a pity that men don’t seem to realize that women need more than wham bang and move on. It’s not all about just having sex. The thrill of the chase, sexual chemistry and attraction all play a big part. " Really? In a club situation? That's a lot to squeeze in to a couple of hours.... | |||
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"Just putting this out there!!!! Can anyone exsplain why it is that single guys seem to have lost the art of being able to talk to couples and be able to charm there way into a wives knickers. Most women don’t like to be used as a piece of meat and just groped and wanked over. I’m sure most single guys would find they would have far more luck at clubs if they took the time to speak to women and couples and read the signs rather than just follow people around and try and join in when seen playing. What are your thoughts both couples and single guys." For me personally; I found the club scene to be too anti-single guys, to want to visit any others. There are hardly any single women in whenever you go (but I should have been there last week..... ), and then the bulk of the couples are "not looking for a single guy, sorry". They're just a waste of time and money. Fab is much easier to find people to have fun with | |||
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"I hear you, OP. I have come across plenty of "mutes", who seem to lose their ability to speak as soon as they see a woman in a club, or maybe even as soon as they walk into a club. Same as yourselves, I need some basic human interaction, even just in the form of "hi", rather than a man coming at me with his cock out. I think men get confused by the fact that us women need some attraction and chemistry to actually want to have sex with someone. And by the fact that, even if they do say "hi" to us, or more if we're lucky, that still does not guarantee them getting their dick wet. Because we still need to be attracted to them enough. But we wouldn't know whether or not we're attracted to them enough unless they speak to us. And that's, sadly, a vicious circle . I imagine men lose the ability to speak to a single woman in a club, because they probably can't believe there's actually a single woman in there..... " I was the only woman in that particular club lol. | |||
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"Well we put up with a lot of shite to find a few diamonds. It’s worth it we feel. On our last club visit though a nice looking guy politely asked “May I sit next to you” we were on a settee. “Sure” smiling. “Can I feel you up?” Literally that quick no game whatsoever. Wanker. " At least he asked Seriously though, sometimes I do charm sometimes I just want to play it depends on my mood. | |||
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"Well we put up with a lot of shite to find a few diamonds. It’s worth it we feel. On our last club visit though a nice looking guy politely asked “May I sit next to you” we were on a settee. “Sure” smiling. “Can I feel you up?” Literally that quick no game whatsoever. Wanker. At least he asked Seriously though, sometimes I do charm sometimes I just want to play it depends on my mood. " So that behaviour is ok then? Rhetorical. Don’t bother. | |||
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"Well we put up with a lot of shite to find a few diamonds. It’s worth it we feel. On our last club visit though a nice looking guy politely asked “May I sit next to you” we were on a settee. “Sure” smiling. “Can I feel you up?” Literally that quick no game whatsoever. Wanker. " My last visit to a club - i sat down and chatted to a cpl and had a ‘real world conversation’ about everything except sex - (in spite of where we were) they went off to have fun and as they did the wife looked round and said ‘maybe see you later?’ So there’s definitely a case for being a normal human being in clubs and on here. | |||
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"Well we put up with a lot of shite to find a few diamonds. It’s worth it we feel. On our last club visit though a nice looking guy politely asked “May I sit next to you” we were on a settee. “Sure” smiling. “Can I feel you up?” Literally that quick no game whatsoever. Wanker. My last visit to a club - i sat down and chatted to a cpl and had a ‘real world conversation’ about everything except sex - (in spite of where we were) they went off to have fun and as they did the wife looked round and said ‘maybe see you later?’ So there’s definitely a case for being a normal human being in clubs and on here. " | |||
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"Well we put up with a lot of shite to find a few diamonds. It’s worth it we feel. On our last club visit though a nice looking guy politely asked “May I sit next to you” we were on a settee. “Sure” smiling. “Can I feel you up?” Literally that quick no game whatsoever. Wanker. At least he asked Seriously though, sometimes I do charm sometimes I just want to play it depends on my mood. So that behaviour is ok then? Rhetorical. Don’t bother. " Did he ask and not touch - yes, , did he ask to sit - yes. Ok the way he asked I agree was shitty and I would have at least expected a bit more interaction After some of the behaviour in clubs even asking in that manner he has done better than some people | |||
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"I hear you, OP. I have come across plenty of "mutes", who seem to lose their ability to speak as soon as they see a woman in a club, or maybe even as soon as they walk into a club. Same as yourselves, I need some basic human interaction, even just in the form of "hi", rather than a man coming at me with his cock out. I think men get confused by the fact that us women need some attraction and chemistry to actually want to have sex with someone. And by the fact that, even if they do say "hi" to us, or more if we're lucky, that still does not guarantee them getting their dick wet. Because we still need to be attracted to them enough. But we wouldn't know whether or not we're attracted to them enough unless they speak to us. And that's, sadly, a vicious circle . I imagine men lose the ability to speak to a single woman in a club, because they probably can't believe there's actually a single woman in there..... I was the only woman in that particular club lol. " There's always more single women comment on forum threads about going to clubs as a single woman, than you ever see in clubs | |||
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"So what about hearing from guys that don’t bother to chat or flirt and hear their take on it." It depends on the scenario - so I had a greedy girls scenario at weekend and was told to just join in I didn’t say no lol | |||
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"Just putting this out there!!!! Can anyone exsplain why it is that single guys seem to have lost the art of being able to talk to couples and be able to charm there way into a wives knickers. Most women don’t like to be used as a peice of meat and just groped and wanked over. I’m sure most single guys would find they would have far more luck at clubs if they took the time to speak to women and couples and read the signs rather than just follow people around and try and join in when seen playing. What are your thoughts both couples and single guys." You say all that when I'm right here. Admittedly, the chat is ALL I have, but still, it's there. | |||
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"Why in this age of equality is it still seen as the guy must make the move? If your attracted to someone then approach the guy and start up a conversation with them. Especially if your a couple as alot of couples are not looking for single guys." who ever said we don’t!!!!. It’s more aimed at guys that say they want to meet when we put an add on the site that we are going to a club on a Serrano date and when we see them there they don’t bother to chat to us but farther just try and mislead in when we play together | |||
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"i would sugest that there are indeed some women who do indeed just want sex and that the reason for some women being here there is no one woman ... not every woman is the same some like the no thrill fuck some dont ..so lets not go down this road of all women are the same and thats that because they simply are not ... oh and nothing wrong with ''just sex either'' " I never said it’s all women did I and understand that we are all different and look for different things but without any communication how are they ever going to find out or are you sujesting that men should just help themselves just in case that’s what the couple/woman wants!!!!! | |||
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"i would sugest that there are indeed some women who do indeed just want sex and that the reason for some women being here there is no one woman ... not every woman is the same some like the no thrill fuck some dont ..so lets not go down this road of all women are the same and thats that because they simply are not ... oh and nothing wrong with ''just sex either'' I never said it’s all women did I and understand that we are all different and look for different things but without any communication how are they ever going to find out or are you sujesting that men should just help themselves just in case that’s what the couple/woman wants!!!!!" you asked for thoughts i gave mine no biggie ..the problem is with the forums the guys get the blame for everything (i do it as well)... maybe it need to be put in your profile more to the point what you expect from guys | |||
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"So what about hearing from guys that don’t bother to chat or flirt and hear their take on it." From your profile you come across as premier league swingers, so so not really for the softer swingers. Separately, I have messaged and not had a reply, so if I saw you in a club I would deginitly steer clear. But, if I had arranged to meet, that is a two way commitment and really you should make an effort to reach out to the single who may be adrift in a sea of the wanking dead. If flirting is your thing I would hope to have heard that from you in making the meet arrangements (see first point above). I hope this helps? | |||
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"Sorry if this has already been said but to me the question of age must come into it. I'm of an age before the Internet, message boards and sites such as Fab. The only way to get anywhere with a lady was to talk to them, flatter them, be funny and make them laugh. All without fabbing a pic or commenting what you want to do with them in text speak. Long story short if ladies want to be seduced the old fashioned way look for a more mature guy. Ahem - takes 1 step forward. " we started on this scene before the internet with contact mags and paper adverts trust me the letters were just as bad as the messages on here are now it was only the few that made it in fact very few ...other meets were word of mouth and private partys and dogging we know friends who were older swingers who say it was ok back then because they knew all on the scene but the internet has made it way way better back before it was the same guys all the time now there a healthy choice | |||
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"It is a pitty that men don’t seem to realise that women need more than wham bang and move on. It’s not all about just having sex. The thrill of the chase, sexual chemistry and attraction all play a big part. " Definitely...the buildup, flirting and the moment that sexual chemistry boils over into raw lust is hugely important, and part of the fun of this...the thrill of the chase followed by great sex, and it being great sex because of the process of reaching that point | |||
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"It is a pitty that men don’t seem to realise that women need more than wham bang and move on. It’s not all about just having sex. The thrill of the chase, sexual chemistry and attraction all play a big part. Definitely...the buildup, flirting and the moment that sexual chemistry boils over into raw lust is hugely important, and part of the fun of this...the thrill of the chase followed by great sex, and it being great sex because of the process of reaching that point " Wouldn't the sexual chemistry be more of a simmer than a boil and the raw lust be a bit less lusty if you were having to run it all past the man in the couple first? | |||
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" And for all those that say there aren't any single ladies that go to the clubs or that the clubs aren't single guy friendly all Im going to say is you must be going to the wrong clubs." Clearly I need to pay Jaydees a visit if I can | |||
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"Simply put here are 1000s of socially inept men on this site add to the fact they have a very ingrained sense of entitlement. The lack of self awareness and sheer laziness is also astounding. The very fact many seem to think sending a poorly written one line message asking for a meet is going to work ....says it all. The "are we gonna fuck or what" vibe most single guys come with is so backwards, it's a wonder they get no where on here. If they are like that in the real world we doubt they get anywhere there too. " | |||
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" And for all those that say there aren't any single ladies that go to the clubs or that the clubs aren't single guy friendly all Im going to say is you must be going to the wrong clubs. Clearly I need to pay Jaydees a visit if I can " You certainly should. | |||
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" And for all those that say there aren't any single ladies that go to the clubs or that the clubs aren't single guy friendly all Im going to say is you must be going to the wrong clubs. Clearly I need to pay Jaydees a visit if I can " Judging by your verifications you would do quite well there, I'd highly recommend you give it a go | |||
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" And for all those that say there aren't any single ladies that go to the clubs or that the clubs aren't single guy friendly all Im going to say is you must be going to the wrong clubs. Clearly I need to pay Jaydees a visit if I can You certainly should. " I'll give you a shout out if I'm in the area | |||
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" And for all those that say there aren't any single ladies that go to the clubs or that the clubs aren't single guy friendly all Im going to say is you must be going to the wrong clubs. Clearly I need to pay Jaydees a visit if I can Judging by your verifications you would do quite well there, I'd highly recommend you give it a go" Thanks mate! If I get a chance to visit while I'm down that way, I'll certainly do my best to pop my head in! It would be interesting to see if the Southern clubs are more welcoming of single guys, and have less cliques than those in the North West..... | |||
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" And for all those that say there aren't any single ladies that go to the clubs or that the clubs aren't single guy friendly all Im going to say is you must be going to the wrong clubs. Clearly I need to pay Jaydees a visit if I can You certainly should. I'll give you a shout out if I'm in the area " Sounds like a plan | |||
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"Just putting this out there!!!! Can anyone exsplain why it is that single guys seem to have lost the art of being able to talk to couples and be able to charm there way into a wives knickers. Most women don’t like to be used as a peice of meat and just groped and wanked over. I’m sure most single guys would find they would have far more luck at clubs if they took the time to speak to women and couples and read the signs rather than just follow people around and try and join in when seen playing. What are your thoughts both couples and single guys." I am sure I will be accused of playing the white night in shining armour for this. However, Some (not all) guys seem to think a swinger = is someone who shags anybody who asks. Hence one line messages such as Fancy a fuck?, I will destroy your pussy, You need me you slut, I am in your city on business tonight fancy coming to my hotel?, etc. What is wrong with wooing a woman/couple? What is wrong with chatting up the woman/couple? What is wrong with enticing a woman/couple into meeting you? | |||
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"It is a pitty that men don’t seem to realise that women need more than wham bang and move on. It’s not all about just having sex. The thrill of the chase, sexual chemistry and attraction all play a big part. " Precisely that! | |||
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"What are your thoughts both couples and single guys." My thoughts are that flirting with a couple is different to flirting with a single person. And I'm not sure that many single guys, in our experience, know how to do either very well. Of course, that just means that when you meet a guy who does do it well, he's off to a flying start! | |||
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"Just putting this out there!!!! Can anyone exsplain why it is that single guys seem to have lost the art of being able to talk to couples and be able to charm there way into a wives knickers. Most women don’t like to be used as a peice of meat and just groped and wanked over. I’m sure most single guys would find they would have far more luck at clubs if they took the time to speak to women and couples and read the signs rather than just follow people around and try and join in when seen playing. What are your thoughts both couples and single guys." I had such an experience 20 years ago.The wife felt unapreciated by her husband and desperatley unhappy.We ended up having an affair but things got complicated so it did not last.Sometimes women crave what they can't have she loved her husband but was deprived of affection and sex.They split up in the end when her husband cauvht her with another man.Turns out her husband had been beating her. | |||
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"I can think of one simple explanation - they've seen your "If you like the pics and want to fuck me, fab me boys. Xxxx" status, and think that's all they have to do! " | |||
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"Sounds like a good title and topic for a book. " Or a training course, you give lessons OP? | |||
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