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"and "right wing" twitter has gone apeshit and lost their minds... have to say haven't seen anything this funny in ages! apparently incitement of racial and religious hatred is accepted "freedom of speech" acccording to the gammons.... who knew!!!" **************** Tell ye what Fabio, goons such as this are far better 'out' for all normal folks to see, rather than ferreting away underground up to their usual crackpot and retarded ways.....!! Talking about underground, they're also pretty adept at digging their own graves too...... Ah well, I suppose life wouldn't be the same without the likes of these nutters reminding us all just how lucky we are! Eva | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"?" It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go...... | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go......" It's fine if aimed at white people.  | |||
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"and "right wing" twitter has gone apeshit and lost their minds... have to say haven't seen anything this funny in ages! apparently incitement of racial and religious hatred is accepted "freedom of speech" acccording to the gammons.... who knew!!!" even the irish far right are going mad over it  and yeah their using that line about free speech to stop new laws being introduced morons | |||
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"Twitter is a private entity and has no obligation to uphold anyone's right to free speech. Their only obligation is to make money by selling ads and produce a return for their shareholders. It's almost as if right wingers hate capitalism." This is it. No matter how vile and confused she is. She has the right to speak. But Twitter have no obligation to platform her. | |||
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"and "right wing" twitter has gone apeshit and lost their minds... have to say haven't seen anything this funny in ages! apparently incitement of racial and religious hatred is accepted "freedom of speech" acccording to the gammons.... who knew!!!" I'd rather see her suspended over a pit of rabid dogs or a pool of hungry sharks. But Twitter can block whoever they wish. I doubt the twitterworld will be any poorer from her absence. A | |||
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I would put up a youtube link for it... but.... | |||
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"I don't like the woman but the two self serving spoilt little rich kids are equally as big c*nts and just aa far up their backsides. The more astute will also note her speech extracts were massively edited to make certain aspects seem worse. She is a horrible person but the hatchet job was worse. I'm sure she doesn't care, she had a freebee of the stupid pricks." All seems a bit pointless. The person that most makes Katie Hopkins look like a vile piece of shit. Is Katie Hopkins. | |||
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"Heres the link https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eRIdtMlqwNA&feature=youtu.be "That is epically brilliant. A | |||
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"I don't like the woman but the two self serving spoilt little rich kids are equally as big c*nts and just aa far up their backsides. The more astute will also note her speech extracts were massively edited to make certain aspects seem worse. She is a horrible person but the hatchet job was worse. I'm sure she doesn't care, she had a freebee of the stupid pricks." Did you see the 30 seconds highlight package or the full on 10 minute video..... because defending her from about minute 7 on is going to be an interesting issue You can’t call the last 3 minute hatchet if you tried | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go......" Have to agree with you there  but as usual it doesn't count if aimed at white people. | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go......Have to agree with you there but as usual it doesn't count if aimed at white people."Someone is only a "gammon" if they're a a right wing, Brexit supporting, ignorant racist. Sure it applies to white people, because that's the stereotype of the above person. But that's not the primary meaning behind it. The difference between standard racism, that so many people on here are into, is you're hating on someone because of their skin colour. Calling someone a "gammon" is in reference to their choice to be ignorant and hateful. | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go......Have to agree with you there but as usual it doesn't count if aimed at white people.
Someone is only a "gammon" if they're a a right wing, Brexit supporting, ignorant racist. Sure it applies to white people, because that's the stereotype of the above person. But that's not the primary meaning behind it.
The difference between standard racism, that so many people on here are into, is you're hating on someone because of their skin colour.
Calling someone a "gammon" is in reference to their choice to be ignorant and hateful.
"Wrong A term used to describe a particular type of Brexit-voting, europhobic, middle-aged white male, whose meat-faced complexion suggests they are perilously close to a stroke.Everything to do with colour. | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go......Have to agree with you there but as usual it doesn't count if aimed at white people.
Someone is only a "gammon" if they're a a right wing, Brexit supporting, ignorant racist. Sure it applies to white people, because that's the stereotype of the above person. But that's not the primary meaning behind it.
The difference between standard racism, that so many people on here are into, is you're hating on someone because of their skin colour.
Calling someone a "gammon" is in reference to their choice to be ignorant and hateful.
Wrong A term used to describe a particular type of Brexit-voting, europhobic, middle-aged white male, whose meat-faced complexion suggests they are perilously close to a stroke.Everything to do with colour."You named several items not to do with colour. | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go......Have to agree with you there but as usual it doesn't count if aimed at white people.
Someone is only a "gammon" if they're a a right wing, Brexit supporting, ignorant racist. Sure it applies to white people, because that's the stereotype of the above person. But that's not the primary meaning behind it.
The difference between standard racism, that so many people on here are into, is you're hating on someone because of their skin colour.
Calling someone a "gammon" is in reference to their choice to be ignorant and hateful.
Wrong A term used to describe a particular type of Brexit-voting, europhobic, middle-aged white male, whose meat-faced complexion suggests they are perilously close to a stroke.Everything to do with colour.
You named several items not to do with colour." | |||
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"If someone called a black person the “N” word it would rightly be called out as racism. If someone calls a white person a Gammon, it’s perfectly acceptable in many peoples eyes." This comparison says more about you than it does about people who use either word. | |||
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"If someone called a black person the “N” word it would rightly be called out as racism. If someone calls a white person a Gammon, it’s perfectly acceptable in many peoples eyes. This comparison says more about you than it does about people who use either word." Whys that then what comparison should he use to get his point across? | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go......" Sajid Javid is Gammon. James Cleverly is Gammon. Priti Patel is gammon. Not about skin colour or gender. | |||
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"Far too many racists in here. Sickening really. Double standards. " Totally agree. | |||
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"Your answer says it all" You didn't ask a question. I didn't give you an answer. Try to keep up old chap. | |||
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"Far too many racists in here. Sickening really. Double standards. " This forum doesn't support GIFs but there is a great one that shows all the hate black/Asian/minorities put up with and then a tiny ball of hate bounces onto a white person and they're the ones that crumble and cry. | |||
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"At the end of the day, Twitter are a private company. If they don't want people using their platform to incite violence, that is down to them. " . That's not quite true, at least it's not in the USA, Facebook, Twitter and various platforms are considered open spaces and are given immunity from posting libelous material. To be classed as that you have to be an open space free from moderation, if they wish to moderate what is posted then they also should be available for suing in court. | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"?" Anyone right of stalin | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? Anyone right of stalin " Been reading The Sun have we matey? Only way you can be wrong about something whilst still somehow blaming "the left".  | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? Anyone right of stalin Been reading The Sun have we matey? Only way you can be wrong about something whilst still somehow blaming "the left". "Relax sexy man x | |||
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"Untwist your right wing panties ladies.! The great Charles Dickens used the term in 1838 in a similar context to today in his 1838 novel, Nicholas nicklby. Here’s the passage. The time had been, when this burst of enthusiasm would have been cheered to the very echo; but now, the deputation received it with chilling coldness. The general impression seemed to be, that as an explanation of Mr. Gregsbury’s political conduct, it did not enter quite enough into detail; and one gentleman in the rear did not scruple to remark aloud, that, for his purpose, it savoured rather too much of a 'gammon' tendency. The meaning of that term—gammon,' said Mr. Gregsbury, 'is unknown to me. If it means that I grow a little too fervid, or perhaps even hyperbolical, in extolling my native land, I admit the full justice of the remark. I am proud of this free and happy country. My form dilates, my eye glistens, my breast heaves, my heart swells, my bosom burns, when I call to mind her greatness and her glory.. " . His native land!.  | |||
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"Untwist your right wing panties ladies.! The great Charles Dickens used the term in 1838 in a similar context to today in his 1838 novel, Nicholas nicklby. Here’s the passage. The time had been, when this burst of enthusiasm would have been cheered to the very echo; but now, the deputation received it with chilling coldness. The general impression seemed to be, that as an explanation of Mr. Gregsbury’s political conduct, it did not enter quite enough into detail; and one gentleman in the rear did not scruple to remark aloud, that, for his purpose, it savoured rather too much of a 'gammon' tendency. The meaning of that term—gammon,' said Mr. Gregsbury, 'is unknown to me. If it means that I grow a little too fervid, or perhaps even hyperbolical, in extolling my native land, I admit the full justice of the remark. I am proud of this free and happy country. My form dilates, my eye glistens, my breast heaves, my heart swells, my bosom burns, when I call to mind her greatness and her glory.. " As long as you don't start quoting Shakespeare you'll be fine... | |||
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"Untwist your right wing panties ladies.! The great Charles Dickens used the term in 1838 in a similar context to today in his 1838 novel, Nicholas nicklby. Here’s the passage. The time had been, when this burst of enthusiasm would have been cheered to the very echo; but now, the deputation received it with chilling coldness. The general impression seemed to be, that as an explanation of Mr. Gregsbury’s political conduct, it did not enter quite enough into detail; and one gentleman in the rear did not scruple to remark aloud, that, for his purpose, it savoured rather too much of a 'gammon' tendency. The meaning of that term—gammon,' said Mr. Gregsbury, 'is unknown to me. If it means that I grow a little too fervid, or perhaps even hyperbolical, in extolling my native land, I admit the full justice of the remark. I am proud of this free and happy country. My form dilates, my eye glistens, my breast heaves, my heart swells, my bosom burns, when I call to mind her greatness and her glory.. As long as you don't start quoting Shakespeare you'll be fine..." Where there is offence let the axe fall. Just not on Shylock . | |||
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"I don't like the woman but the two self serving spoilt little rich kids are equally as big c*nts and just aa far up their backsides. The more astute will also note her speech extracts were massively edited to make certain aspects seem worse. She is a horrible person but the hatchet job was worse. I'm sure she doesn't care, she had a freebee of the stupid pricks. Did you see the 30 seconds highlight package or the full on 10 minute video..... because defending her from about minute 7 on is going to be an interesting issue You can’t call the last 3 minute hatchet if you tried " I hate her! those guys made her look like the nasty little bigot she is.....she deserves it...what goes around comes around.... | |||
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"I don't like the woman but the two self serving spoilt little rich kids are equally as big c*nts and just aa far up their backsides. The more astute will also note her speech extracts were massively edited to make certain aspects seem worse. She is a horrible person but the hatchet job was worse. I'm sure she doesn't care, she had a freebee of the stupid pricks. Did you see the 30 seconds highlight package or the full on 10 minute video..... because defending her from about minute 7 on is going to be an interesting issue You can’t call the last 3 minute hatchet if you tried " I'm not defending her, I make that clear. I did watch the full video and disliked the two spoilt pricks just as much. | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go...... Sajid Javid is Gammon. James Cleverly is Gammon. Priti Patel is gammon. Not about skin colour or gender. " So would it be ok to refer to all people with big black frizzy hair as golliwogs? Personally I think not, but the people on here who think gammon is acceptable will consiser that acceptable too. Very sad  | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go...... Sajid Javid is Gammon. James Cleverly is Gammon. Priti Patel is gammon. Not about skin colour or gender. So would it be ok to refer to all people with big black frizzy hair as golliwogs? Personally I think not, but the people on here who think gammon is acceptable will consiser that acceptable too. Very sad "You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh | |||
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"Twitter is a private entity and has no obligation to uphold anyone's right to free speech. Their only obligation is to make money by selling ads and produce a return for their shareholders. It's almost as if right wingers hate capitalism." Go watch the JRE podcasts with Jack Dorsey. Thats not what he thinks, he wants it an open platform for conversation. Not really doing that are they though. They dont enforce there ToS fairly at all. There is a definite argument to be made that social media is so big and important now that they should be treated like public utilities. Some companies dont bother with anything but twitter now. Funny now freedom of speech is suddenly a Right wing hill | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go...... Sajid Javid is Gammon. James Cleverly is Gammon. Priti Patel is gammon. Not about skin colour or gender. So would it be ok to refer to all people with big black frizzy hair as golliwogs? Personally I think not, but the people on here who think gammon is acceptable will consiser that acceptable too. Very sad
You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh "You know very well Gammon is used as term to dissmiss older white males. To say otherwise would be wrong... | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go...... Sajid Javid is Gammon. James Cleverly is Gammon. Priti Patel is gammon. Not about skin colour or gender. So would it be ok to refer to all people with big black frizzy hair as golliwogs? Personally I think not, but the people on here who think gammon is acceptable will consiser that acceptable too. Very sad
You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh
You know very well Gammon is used as term to dissmiss older white males. To say otherwise would be wrong..."Look up the description online for gammon. I think you will find you are wrong ? Anyway, why are people getting so upset about being called gammon? Seems like snowflake behaviour to me | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go...... Sajid Javid is Gammon. James Cleverly is Gammon. Priti Patel is gammon. Not about skin colour or gender. So would it be ok to refer to all people with big black frizzy hair as golliwogs? Personally I think not, but the people on here who think gammon is acceptable will consiser that acceptable too. Very sad
You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh
You know very well Gammon is used as term to dissmiss older white males. To say otherwise would be wrong...
Look up the description online for gammon. I think you will find you are wrong ? Anyway, why are people getting so upset about being called gammon? Seems like snowflake behaviour to me "I dont think people are getting upset, well im not anyway but find it very ironic someone of colour going on about racism and uses the term. | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go...... Sajid Javid is Gammon. James Cleverly is Gammon. Priti Patel is gammon. Not about skin colour or gender. So would it be ok to refer to all people with big black frizzy hair as golliwogs? Personally I think not, but the people on here who think gammon is acceptable will consiser that acceptable too. Very sad
You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh
You know very well Gammon is used as term to dissmiss older white males. To say otherwise would be wrong...
Look up the description online for gammon. I think you will find you are wrong ? Anyway, why are people getting so upset about being called gammon? Seems like snowflake behaviour to me I dont think people are getting upset, well im not anyway but find it very ironic someone of colour going on about racism and uses the term. "Just to reiterate, You don’t have to be white to be gammon, look it up if you don’t believe me . Do you think Katie Hopkins should have been banned from twitter?? | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. " Would you call someone of that description AND Jewish that though? I would have thought that would cause huge offence. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Would you call someone of that description AND Jewish that though? I would have thought that would cause huge offence. " So a middle aged Jewish white man would be offended at being called a gammon? Oh wait. As I was typing the question. The penny dropped. Well done sir. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. " Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult " . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech. "Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech. "No they can’t | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading"It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime "No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime"Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same . | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same . "Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently."There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading"Lots of people seeking to talk down and deny the rise in hate crime over recent years. I would hazard a guess (and it would be a guess) that the majority of those people attempting to do so are white middle aged males. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult "I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you. But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is disingenuous | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous"Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous
Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male." | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous"Is gammon a racist insult? Come on, it is a yes or a no? Is the word ‘snowflake’ racist? Gammons can be any colour , any age, any sex any religion you don’t have to be white to be gammon . | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous
Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male."Those people have also been called coconuts and race traitors...because they hold conservative views, funnily enough they come from the most socially conservative backgrounds in the UK but hated because they are not Labour. Bit of a double standard there. They are called Gammon because in peoples eyes they are on the "white oppressors" side of the bench and there ethnicity doesnt matter anymore | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous
Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male.
Those people have also been called coconuts and race traitors...because they hold conservative views, funnily enough they come from the most socially conservative backgrounds in the UK but hated because they are not Labour. Bit of a double standard there. They are called Gammon because in peoples eyes they are on the "white oppressors" side of the bench and there ethnicity doesnt matter anymore"You are shooting yourself in the foot here . Under what circumstances do you think it is racist to call a person ‘gammon’ ? | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous
Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male.
Those people have also been called coconuts and race traitors...because they hold conservative views, funnily enough they come from the most socially conservative backgrounds in the UK but hated because they are not Labour. Bit of a double standard there. They are called Gammon because in peoples eyes they are on the "white oppressors" side of the bench and there ethnicity doesnt matter anymore"Gammon has nothing to do with "white oppressors". It's just describing someone going red in the face with confusion and anger. They're usually bigots. They're usually Brexit voters. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous
Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male.
Those people have also been called coconuts and race traitors...because they hold conservative views, funnily enough they come from the most socially conservative backgrounds in the UK but hated because they are not Labour. Bit of a double standard there. They are called Gammon because in peoples eyes they are on the "white oppressors" side of the bench and there ethnicity doesnt matter anymore"No, they’re called Gammon because they’re incredibly and overtly irritable when called out on the nonsense they’ve been lying about incessantly. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous
Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male.
Those people have also been called coconuts and race traitors...because they hold conservative views, funnily enough they come from the most socially conservative backgrounds in the UK but hated because they are not Labour. Bit of a double standard there. They are called Gammon because in peoples eyes they are on the "white oppressors" side of the bench and there ethnicity doesnt matter anymore
You are shooting yourself in the foot here . Under what circumstances do you think it is racist to call a person ‘gammon’ ? "Depends. Its not overtly racist like the N word. Which is pretty much just the Latin word for Black then slowly changed in to a racist slur. More how its starting to be more commonly used as a retort to dimiss someones views instead of debating them (like we are doing now) You see it on the cess pit that is social media everyday. Then people wonder why Brexit happened and Trump was voted in | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous
Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male.
Those people have also been called coconuts and race traitors...because they hold conservative views, funnily enough they come from the most socially conservative backgrounds in the UK but hated because they are not Labour. Bit of a double standard there. They are called Gammon because in peoples eyes they are on the "white oppressors" side of the bench and there ethnicity doesnt matter anymore
You are shooting yourself in the foot here . Under what circumstances do you think it is racist to call a person ‘gammon’ ?
Depends. Its not overtly racist like the N word. Which is pretty much just the Latin word for Black then slowly changed in to a racist slur. More how its starting to be more commonly used as a retort to dimiss someones views instead of debating them (like we are doing now) You see it on the cess pit that is social media everyday. Then people wonder why Brexit happened and Trump was voted in"You didn’t even come close to answering my question. Here is an example , is it racist for a 36 year old man born in England to call someone ‘gammon’ ? | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous
Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male.
Those people have also been called coconuts and race traitors...because they hold conservative views, funnily enough they come from the most socially conservative backgrounds in the UK but hated because they are not Labour. Bit of a double standard there. They are called Gammon because in peoples eyes they are on the "white oppressors" side of the bench and there ethnicity doesnt matter anymore
You are shooting yourself in the foot here . Under what circumstances do you think it is racist to call a person ‘gammon’ ?
Depends. Its not overtly racist like the N word. Which is pretty much just the Latin word for Black then slowly changed in to a racist slur. More how its starting to be more commonly used as a retort to dimiss someones views instead of debating them (like we are doing now) You see it on the cess pit that is social media everyday. Then people wonder why Brexit happened and Trump was voted in
You didn’t even come close to answering my question. Here is an example , is it racist for a 36 year old man born in England to call someone ‘gammon’ ? "Probably not no in that sense. Could be bit like colourism, bit like a black person calling another a coconut or house N for example. Interested to know after this coversation would you call me a gammon? | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous
Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male.
Those people have also been called coconuts and race traitors...because they hold conservative views, funnily enough they come from the most socially conservative backgrounds in the UK but hated because they are not Labour. Bit of a double standard there. They are called Gammon because in peoples eyes they are on the "white oppressors" side of the bench and there ethnicity doesnt matter anymore
You are shooting yourself in the foot here . Under what circumstances do you think it is racist to call a person ‘gammon’ ?
Depends. Its not overtly racist like the N word. Which is pretty much just the Latin word for Black then slowly changed in to a racist slur. More how its starting to be more commonly used as a retort to dimiss someones views instead of debating them (like we are doing now) You see it on the cess pit that is social media everyday. Then people wonder why Brexit happened and Trump was voted in
You didn’t even come close to answering my question. Here is an example , is it racist for a 36 year old man born in England to call someone ‘gammon’ ?
Probably not no in that sense. Could be bit like colourism, bit like a black person calling another a coconut or house N for example.
Interested to know after this coversation would you call me a gammon?"Are you bigoted? If not , then you aren’t gammon | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous
Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male.
Those people have also been called coconuts and race traitors...because they hold conservative views, funnily enough they come from the most socially conservative backgrounds in the UK but hated because they are not Labour. Bit of a double standard there. They are called Gammon because in peoples eyes they are on the "white oppressors" side of the bench and there ethnicity doesnt matter anymore
You are shooting yourself in the foot here . Under what circumstances do you think it is racist to call a person ‘gammon’ ?
Depends. Its not overtly racist like the N word. Which is pretty much just the Latin word for Black then slowly changed in to a racist slur. More how its starting to be more commonly used as a retort to dimiss someones views instead of debating them (like we are doing now) You see it on the cess pit that is social media everyday. Then people wonder why Brexit happened and Trump was voted in
You didn’t even come close to answering my question. Here is an example , is it racist for a 36 year old man born in England to call someone ‘gammon’ ?
Probably not no in that sense. Could be bit like colourism, bit like a black person calling another a coconut or house N for example.
Interested to know after this coversation would you call me a gammon?
Are you bigoted? If not , then you aren’t gammon "Certain people on the far left may call me a bigot yes, while someone on the far right would call me a snowflake or lefttard or whatever. I just dont see things as black and white as alot of people do which imo is being amplified by social media. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
Indeed this is correct. i could call someone a twat and that could be taken as hate crime if they deem it so. Thats why statistics showing the rise of "Hate Crime" are extremelyy misleading
It can be defined as a hate crime, but calling someone a twat isn’t a ‘racist’ hate crime
No but if i called a black person a twat and they took it as racist it will be reported as such. Same with LGBT hate crime
Give me one example of somebody who has been prosecuted for a ‘race hate’ crime after calling a person ‘gammon’ . Or give me one example of person being banned from social media for doing the same .
Might struggle with that yeah, But mainly because Intersectionality you cant be racist to white people apparently.
There you go. Only a ‘snowflake ‘ would think ‘gammon’ is a racist insult
I personally wouldnt care less if you called me gammon, i would probably just laugh at you.
But to think words cant change meaning or how they are used is silly. Are you aware Faggot for example was used as an insult to women originally? Nothing to do with Homosexuality at all. So to say the word Gammon isnt now used to dimiss somones veiws because of being a middle aged white male is
disingenuous
Sajid Javid is gammon. So is Priti Patel. So is James Cleverly. So is Mark François. Only one of those is a middle aged white male.
Those people have also been called coconuts and race traitors...because they hold conservative views, funnily enough they come from the most socially conservative backgrounds in the UK but hated because they are not Labour. Bit of a double standard there. They are called Gammon because in peoples eyes they are on the "white oppressors" side of the bench and there ethnicity doesnt matter anymore
You are shooting yourself in the foot here . Under what circumstances do you think it is racist to call a person ‘gammon’ ?
Depends. Its not overtly racist like the N word. Which is pretty much just the Latin word for Black then slowly changed in to a racist slur. More how its starting to be more commonly used as a retort to dimiss someones views instead of debating them (like we are doing now) You see it on the cess pit that is social media everyday. Then people wonder why Brexit happened and Trump was voted in
You didn’t even come close to answering my question. Here is an example , is it racist for a 36 year old man born in England to call someone ‘gammon’ ?
Probably not no in that sense. Could be bit like colourism, bit like a black person calling another a coconut or house N for example.
Interested to know after this coversation would you call me a gammon?
Are you bigoted? If not , then you aren’t gammon
Certain people on the far left may call me a bigot yes, while someone on the far right would call me a snowflake or lefttard or whatever. I just dont see things as black and white as alot of people do which imo is being amplified by social media. "let those who know you decide , tbh I couldn’t care less if you are or not | |||
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"Your not a gammon your an idiot comparing 400 years of discrimination and oppression and racism with a salty piece of meat.. "Sigh... Ok we can go back even further if you like. Every single nationality and race has been oppressed or been slaves in some way at some point in time. Noone is asking Turkey to apoligise for the Barbary slave trade are they | |||
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Sigh... Ok we can go back even further if you like. Every single nationality and race has been oppressed or been slaves in some way at some point in time. Noone is asking Turkey to apoligise for the Barbary slave trade are they"Being called ‘Gammon’ if you’re displaying Gammony tendencies is not ‘oppression’ | |||
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You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh "I don't understand your point tbh. Anyone with black hair can decide to go big and frizzy with it. So 8s it ok to call them a golliwog on that basis? For me it isn't but you may disagree. | |||
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"Your not a gammon your an idiot comparing 400 years of discrimination and oppression and racism with a salty piece of meat..
Sigh... Ok we can go back even further if you like. Every single nationality and race has been oppressed or been slaves in some way at some point in time. Noone is asking Turkey to apoligise for the Barbary slave trade are they
“Hey “gammon” come here, me and the boys are going to Lynch your white ass and while your swinging from that tree we’re going to have have fun with that “gammon” wife of yours”
Said nobody ever!!In history
Because gammon has same historical context as nigger..
I’ll say it again your an idiot..
"Well we were having a polite debate no need to call me an Idiot thanks, far from it actually. Saying things like shows you are historically illiterate. Maybe you might want to research what the Romans did in Gaul and Britain, what the Barbary pirates did in Western Europe and the Ottomans got up to in Eastern Europe. The root word of Slave is Slav as in the Slavic people. Every country has done horrible things. Read my previous post where i admit the term Gammon isnt as overtley racist in its use atm, but im sure there are people who do use it that way. In the same way the Niger was not racist to begin with but morphed into the N word in the 18th century. We would be better if we didnt just dimiss peoples views straight away with stuff like "youre just a gammon ect ect" | |||
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"Your not a gammon your an idiot comparing 400 years of discrimination and oppression and racism with a salty piece of meat..
Sigh... Ok we can go back even further if you like. Every single nationality and race has been oppressed or been slaves in some way at some point in time. Noone is asking Turkey to apoligise for the Barbary slave trade are they
“Hey “gammon” come here, me and the boys are going to Lynch your white ass and while your swinging from that tree we’re going to have have fun with that “gammon” wife of yours”
Said nobody ever!!In history
Because gammon has same historical context as nigger..
I’ll say it again your an idiot..
Well we were having a polite debate no need to call me an Idiot thanks, far from it actually. Saying things like shows you are historically illiterate. Maybe you might want to research what the Romans did in Gaul and Britain, what the Barbary pirates did in Western Europe and the Ottomans got up to in Eastern Europe. The root word of Slave is Slav as in the Slavic people. Every country has done horrible things. Read my previous post where i admit the term Gammon isnt as overtley racist in its use atm, but im sure there are people who do use it that way. In the same way the Niger was not racist to begin with but morphed into the N word in the 18th century. We would be better if we didnt just dimiss peoples views straight away with stuff like "youre just a gammon ect ect""That would involve intellect, a generic insult is far easier than a structured debate. | |||
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You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh
I don't understand your point tbh. Anyone with black hair can decide to go big and frizzy with it. So 8s it ok to call them a golliwog on that basis? For me it isn't but you may disagree."Are you being serious? | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go...... Sajid Javid is Gammon. James Cleverly is Gammon. Priti Patel is gammon. Not about skin colour or gender. So would it be ok to refer to all people with big black frizzy hair as golliwogs? Personally I think not, but the people on here who think gammon is acceptable will consiser that acceptable too. Very sad
You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh
I don't understand your point tbh. Anyone with black hair can decide to go big and frizzy with it. So 8s it ok to call them a golliwog on that basis? For me it isn't but you may disagree.
Are you being serious? "Yes, I don't think it is acceptable. You obviously do | |||
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"Your not a gammon your an idiot comparing 400 years of discrimination and oppression and racism with a salty piece of meat..
Sigh... Ok we can go back even further if you like. Every single nationality and race has been oppressed or been slaves in some way at some point in time. Noone is asking Turkey to apoligise for the Barbary slave trade are they
“Hey “gammon” come here, me and the boys are going to Lynch your white ass and while your swinging from that tree we’re going to have have fun with that “gammon” wife of yours”
Said nobody ever!!In history
Because gammon has same historical context as nigger..
I’ll say it again your an idiot..
Well we were having a polite debate no need to call me an Idiot thanks, far from it actually. Saying things like shows you are historically illiterate. Maybe you might want to research what the Romans did in Gaul and Britain, what the Barbary pirates did in Western Europe and the Ottomans got up to in Eastern Europe. The root word of Slave is Slav as in the Slavic people. Every country has done horrible things. Read my previous post where i admit the term Gammon isnt as overtley racist in its use atm, but im sure there are people who do use it that way. In the same way the Niger was not racist to begin with but morphed into the N word in the 18th century. We would be better if we didnt just dimiss peoples views straight away with stuff like "youre just a gammon ect ect""So are you saying that "gammon" may develop into an actual racist comment at some unspecified point in the future so it is equivalent to actual racist comments that have been used for decades to insult and oppress? If not, what is your point? | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go...... Sajid Javid is Gammon. James Cleverly is Gammon. Priti Patel is gammon. Not about skin colour or gender. So would it be ok to refer to all people with big black frizzy hair as golliwogs? Personally I think not, but the people on here who think gammon is acceptable will consiser that acceptable too. Very sad
You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh
I don't understand your point tbh. Anyone with black hair can decide to go big and frizzy with it. So 8s it ok to call them a golliwog on that basis? For me it isn't but you may disagree.
Are you being serious?
Yes, I don't think it is acceptable. You obviously do "Yes, he was being serious. "Clever" too. You see what he did? He made a racist reference and then said that it wasn't acceptable. It's very "clever". He'll tell you how clever he is at some point | |||
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"and "right wing" twitter has gone apeshit and lost their minds... have to say haven't seen anything this funny in ages! apparently incitement of racial and religious hatred is accepted "freedom of speech" acccording to the gammons.... who knew!!!" Oh well. | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go...... Sajid Javid is Gammon. James Cleverly is Gammon. Priti Patel is gammon. Not about skin colour or gender. So would it be ok to refer to all people with big black frizzy hair as golliwogs? Personally I think not, but the people on here who think gammon is acceptable will consiser that acceptable too. Very sad
You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh
I don't understand your point tbh. Anyone with black hair can decide to go big and frizzy with it. So 8s it ok to call them a golliwog on that basis? For me it isn't but you may disagree.
Are you being serious?
Yes, I don't think it is acceptable. You obviously do
Yes, he was being serious.
"Clever" too.
You see what he did? He made a racist reference and then said that it wasn't acceptable.
It's very "clever".
He'll tell you how clever he is at some point "I condemn all forms of racism no matter who it is against, so no cleverness here. I am asking someone else a simple question. I've no doubt you've reported it though | |||
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"What's a "Gammon"? It’s a term used to reference older white gentlemen of a political leaning to the right. Is there an irony of someone calling out racism and intolerance by using a term firmly predicated on someone’s skin colour???? Go...... Sajid Javid is Gammon. James Cleverly is Gammon. Priti Patel is gammon. Not about skin colour or gender. So would it be ok to refer to all people with big black frizzy hair as golliwogs? Personally I think not, but the people on here who think gammon is acceptable will consiser that acceptable too. Very sad
You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh
I don't understand your point tbh. Anyone with black hair can decide to go big and frizzy with it. So 8s it ok to call them a golliwog on that basis? For me it isn't but you may disagree.
Are you being serious?
Yes, I don't think it is acceptable. You obviously do
Yes, he was being serious.
"Clever" too.
You see what he did? He made a racist reference and then said that it wasn't acceptable.
It's very "clever".
He'll tell you how clever he is at some point
I condemn all forms of racism no matter who it is against, so no cleverness here. I am asking someone else a simple question. I've no doubt you've reported it though "Another post another snide comment? Your need for micro-victories is spectacular. Last word to you. I know you need to 
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You don’t have to be white to be gammon. You can be white and not be gammon . I don’t understand your point tbh
I don't understand your point tbh. Anyone with black hair can decide to go big and frizzy with it. So 8s it ok to call them a golliwog on that basis? For me it isn't but you may disagree.
Are you being serious?
Yes, I don't think it is acceptable. You obviously do "People are called ‘gammon’ based on their attitude and opinions not their appearance . Why would someone call a white person with ‘big and frizzy’ hair a golliwog? Care to elaborate ? | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t ". According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions. If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate. So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up ". If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
"You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do ". why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not ". I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website. All Hate speech is defined by the receiver. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
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No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking"Are snowflake and woke hate words? | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? ". Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate. I don't agree with it but that's the police line. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? .
Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
I don't agree with it but that's the police line."Do you think the words gammon, snowflake and woke are race hate speech. Yes or no? | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? .
Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
I don't agree with it but that's the police line.
Do you think the words gammon, snowflake and woke are race hate speech. Yes or no? ". Me personally? No. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? .
Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
I don't agree with it but that's the police line.
Do you think the words gammon, snowflake and woke are race hate speech. Yes or no? .
Me personally?
No."Thank you, case closed . | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? .
Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
I don't agree with it but that's the police line.
Do you think the words gammon, snowflake and woke are race hate speech. Yes or no? .
Me personally?
No.
Thank you, case closed . ". I don't police it though?. If I did nothing would be considered hate speech as I'd just tell everybody to man up | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? .
Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
I don't agree with it but that's the police line.
Do you think the words gammon, snowflake and woke are race hate speech. Yes or no? .
Me personally?
No.
Thank you, case closed . .
I don't police it though?.
If I did nothing would be considered hate speech as I'd just tell everybody to man up "Is saying ‘man up ‘ hate speech, sexist maybe ? | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? .
Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
I don't agree with it but that's the police line.
Do you think the words gammon, snowflake and woke are race hate speech. Yes or no? .
Me personally?
No.
Thank you, case closed . .
I don't police it though?.
If I did nothing would be considered hate speech as I'd just tell everybody to man up
Is saying ‘man up ‘ hate speech, sexist maybe ? ". According to snowflakes yes. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? .
Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
I don't agree with it but that's the police line.
Do you think the words gammon, snowflake and woke are race hate speech. Yes or no? .
Me personally?
No.
Thank you, case closed . .
I don't police it though?.
If I did nothing would be considered hate speech as I'd just tell everybody to man up
Is saying ‘man up ‘ hate speech, sexist maybe ? .
According to snowflakes yes."And the police?? | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? .
Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
I don't agree with it but that's the police line.
Do you think the words gammon, snowflake and woke are race hate speech. Yes or no? .
Me personally?
No.
Thank you, case closed . .
I don't police it though?.
If I did nothing would be considered hate speech as I'd just tell everybody to man up
Is saying ‘man up ‘ hate speech, sexist maybe ? .
According to snowflakes yes.
And the police?? ". We've been through this but your not really grasping it are you | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? .
Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
I don't agree with it but that's the police line.
Do you think the words gammon, snowflake and woke are race hate speech. Yes or no? .
Me personally?
No.
Thank you, case closed . .
I don't police it though?.
If I did nothing would be considered hate speech as I'd just tell everybody to man up
Is saying ‘man up ‘ hate speech, sexist maybe ? .
According to snowflakes yes.
And the police?? .
We've been through this but your not really grasping it are you "If you can’t answer the question that is ok to admit, | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? .
Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
I don't agree with it but that's the police line.
Do you think the words gammon, snowflake and woke are race hate speech. Yes or no? .
Me personally?
No.
Thank you, case closed . .
I don't police it though?.
If I did nothing would be considered hate speech as I'd just tell everybody to man up
Is saying ‘man up ‘ hate speech, sexist maybe ? .
According to snowflakes yes.
And the police?? .
We've been through this but your not really grasping it are you
If you can’t answer the question that is ok to admit, ". Anything is hate speech, if the receiver defines it as hate, it's recorded as hate. Which bit of that are you failing to grasp | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Only to the uneducated , (btw i am not referring directly to you) but gammon isn’t a racist insult . It is my any modern standard used for hate non crimes as defined by West Yorkshire police because and I quote, hate is determined by the target. Gammons can indeed self identify it as racist hate speech.
No they can’t .
According to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit they indeed can because hate is decided upon by the receiver and not by the words or actions.
If they perceive it at hate, it's recorded as hate.
So you can be reported and logged as using non crime hate speech for calling somebody gammon.
Is it hate speech or race hate speech ? Make your mind up .
If they perceive it as race hate speech then it is recorded as that!.
You’re wrong, good effort though. Do you have any examples of people being prosecuted for calling someone gammon, or anybody who has been banned from social media? Any at all? Just one will do .
why don't you just go and read the West Yorkshire hate crime units website where all questions are answered.
I'm not really bothered who calls who or what, I was though telling you the police do
Just one example? Just one? Anywhere ? Thought not .
I don't study the figures of it because I'm not really interested in name calling but as I've already told you go and read the website.
All Hate speech is defined by the receiver.
Gammon isn’t hate speech, end of discussion. .
Have you tried being the receiver instead of the giver?.
Might help your thinking
Are snowflake and woke hate words? .
Anything is hate speech as it's defined by the receiver, if they perceive it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
I don't agree with it but that's the police line.
Do you think the words gammon, snowflake and woke are race hate speech. Yes or no? .
Me personally?
No.
Thank you, case closed . .
I don't police it though?.
If I did nothing would be considered hate speech as I'd just tell everybody to man up
Is saying ‘man up ‘ hate speech, sexist maybe ? .
According to snowflakes yes.
And the police?? .
We've been through this but your not really grasping it are you
If you can’t answer the question that is ok to admit, .
Anything is hate speech, if the receiver defines it as hate, it's recorded as hate.
Which bit of that are you failing to grasp "Again, you are not answering the question, is saying ‘man up ‘ hate speech? You know the answer don’t you ? | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?. "Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? ". Legally no | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no"Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? ". No | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No"And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself | |||
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" As long as you don't start quoting Shakespeare you'll be fine..." As in "this septic isle"??? | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself ". No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself .
No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want "Ok, go and twitter and Facebook and use that word, try and use it on here, you have just said it isn’t hate speech so what have you got to lose ? . You have made a completed fool of yourself on here, again | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself .
No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want
Ok, go and twitter and Facebook and use that word, try and use it on here, you have just said it isn’t hate speech so what have you got to lose ? . You have made a completed fool of yourself on here, again ". Do you want me to find you an example of a black comedian using the n word on Twitter?. | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself .
No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want "Btw, you are completely incorrect, if someone hears you using that term towards another person then they can report you and you can get prosecuted for race hate crime , you really don’t know your facts do you | |||
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We all know what you are .
Don't you attempt to repress me in what I define as.
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself .
No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want
Btw, you are completely incorrect, if someone hears you using that term towards another person then they can report you and you can get prosecuted for race hate crime , you really don’t know your facts do you ". God there must be dozens of rappers in prison for it then?. | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself .
No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want
Ok, go and twitter and Facebook and use that word, try and use it on here, you have just said it isn’t hate speech so what have you got to lose ? . You have made a completed fool of yourself on here, again .
Do you want me to find you an example of a black comedian using the n word on Twitter?. "No, can you find a non black comedian though, preferably in the last 5 years. Btw? Why did Katie Hopkins get banned from Twitter? | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself .
No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want
Btw, you are completely incorrect, if someone hears you using that term towards another person then they can report you and you can get prosecuted for race hate crime , you really don’t know your facts do you .
God there must be dozens of rappers in prison for it then?."Are any of them non black. You are trying to excuse the use of the word because black people use it? Digging a hole here | |||
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We all know what you are .
Don't you attempt to repress me in what I define as.
We all know what you are . It wasn’t difficult for you to fall into my trap, ". Aghhh I'm trapped by your smarts talk.  | |||
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We all know what you are .
Don't you attempt to repress me in what I define as.
We all know what you are . It wasn’t difficult for you to fall into my trap, .
Aghhh I'm trapped by your smarts talk.
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself .
No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want
Btw, you are completely incorrect, if someone hears you using that term towards another person then they can report you and you can get prosecuted for race hate crime , you really don’t know your facts do you .
God there must be dozens of rappers in prison for it then?.
Are any of them non black. You are trying to excuse the use of the word because black people use it?
Digging a hole here ". No it's because what is hateful is defined by the receiver as I've been telling you for like 50 posts .
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself .
No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want
Btw, you are completely incorrect, if someone hears you using that term towards another person then they can report you and you can get prosecuted for race hate crime , you really don’t know your facts do you .
God there must be dozens of rappers in prison for it then?.
Are any of them non black. You are trying to excuse the use of the word because black people use it?
Digging a hole here .
No it's because what is hateful is defined by the receiver as I've been telling you for like 50 posts .
Jeeesus"Haha, I think my work here is done . | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself .
No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want
Btw, you are completely incorrect, if someone hears you using that term towards another person then they can report you and you can get prosecuted for race hate crime , you really don’t know your facts do you .
God there must be dozens of rappers in prison for it then?.
Are any of them non black. You are trying to excuse the use of the word because black people use it?
Digging a hole here .
No it's because what is hateful is defined by the receiver as I've been telling you for like 50 posts .
Jeeesus
Haha, I think my work here is done . ". Yes so you now agree that calling white old men gammon is hate speech if they define it as such. Your the one using the hate speech not me | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself .
No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want
Btw, you are completely incorrect, if someone hears you using that term towards another person then they can report you and you can get prosecuted for race hate crime , you really don’t know your facts do you .
God there must be dozens of rappers in prison for it then?.
Are any of them non black. You are trying to excuse the use of the word because black people use it?
Digging a hole here .
No it's because what is hateful is defined by the receiver as I've been telling you for like 50 posts .
Jeeesus
Haha, I think my work here is done . .
Yes so you now agree that calling white old men gammon is hate speech if they define it as such.
Your the one using the hate speech not me "You’re trying to compare using the N word with the term ‘gammon’ ? Are you suggesting that they have the same racist connotations? That they have the same impact on the ‘receiver’ ? You can’t give me one example of a person being prosecuted or being banned from social media for using the term ‘gammon,, I can show you thousands that have when using the N word? I wonder why? You don’t think either is hate speech? Do you think it is acceptable to use both words when describing a person ? Would you tell some one who was called a ‘N word’ to ‘man up’ For gods sake educate yourself , you have become an embarrassment on here . | |||
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"You seem to want to control/define what's hateful and what's not?.
Here is an easy one for you . Is the N word hate speech? .
Legally no
Do you think the N word is hate speech ?? .
No
And there we have it. Case closed again . And dont try and say it isn’t hate speech because black people sometimes call it each other . Go and educate yourself .
No that backs exactly what I've been telling you you Muppet, that legally hate is defined by the receiver.... Besides I define as black so I can say whatever I want
Btw, you are completely incorrect, if someone hears you using that term towards another person then they can report you and you can get prosecuted for race hate crime , you really don’t know your facts do you .
God there must be dozens of rappers in prison for it then?.
Are any of them non black. You are trying to excuse the use of the word because black people use it?
Digging a hole here .
No it's because what is hateful is defined by the receiver as I've been telling you for like 50 posts .
Jeeesus
Haha, I think my work here is done . .
Yes so you now agree that calling white old men gammon is hate speech if they define it as such.
Your the one using the hate speech not me
You’re trying to compare using the N word with the term ‘gammon’ ? Are you suggesting that they have the same racist connotations? That they have the same impact on the ‘receiver’ ?
You can’t give me one example of a person being prosecuted or being banned from social media for using the term ‘gammon,, I can show you thousands that have when using the N word? I wonder why?
You don’t think either is hate speech?
Do you think it is acceptable to use both words when describing a person ? Would you tell
some one who was called a ‘N word’ to ‘man up’ For gods sake educate yourself , you have become an embarrassment on here . ". Now you've gone off on a completely different tangent inferring I had compared "hate". I did no such thing, what I said was that according to the west Yorkshire hate crime unit, calling somebody gammon is indeed race hate speech if the receiver defines it as such, as all hate speech is defined by the receiver and not by the words being used hence why rappers aren't in prison for using the n word!!. YOU seem to be the person wanting to define "hate" not i | |||
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"Do people of colour see the word "coconut", as a racial slur? " Its a slur between people of colour yes.. Meaning black/brown on the outside and white on the inside. In the same vain as House N was used in the past or Choc Ice. | |||
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"Do people of colour see the word "coconut", as a racial slur? Its a slur between people of colour yes.. Meaning black/brown on the outside and white on the inside. In the same vain as House N was used in the past or Choc Ice. " Much like white on the outside, red in the middle then? | |||
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"Do people of colour see the word "coconut", as a racial slur? Its a slur between people of colour yes.. Meaning black/brown on the outside and white on the inside. In the same vain as House N was used in the past or Choc Ice. " . Why would calling a black person white on the inside be seen as a slur? | |||
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"Never saw any lefties claiming racism when they were being called snowflakes and they are white." . No that was fascism!! You've gotta keep up with the Sims in this intersectionality world we live in | |||
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"Never saw any lefties claiming racism when they were being called snowflakes and they are white."
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"All a bit boring now. Katie Hopkins is a horrible c*nt, the two spoilt brats who set her up are also c*unts. End of." . Yea but are they bigger cunts than the Muslim brotherhood who are a prescribed terrorist organisation?. I'm only asking because they've got Facebook and Twitter accounts | |||
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"Funny people talk about equality and freedom then use a word like gammon, can any one tell what the version is for someone who is from a ethnic back ground " Black-gammon (as in gammon cured in treacle or molasses). Generally it's not as bitter as a normal gammon. | |||
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"I'd say it's near wholy accepted that the term gammon is now referring to middle aged white angry men. Would you call someone of that description AND Jewish that though? I would have thought that would cause huge offence. " Good point. Maybe we should call them pastrami, especially if they have freckles too. | |||
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"Meanwhile Tommy Robinson gives a speech in the Danish Parliament after receiving a reward for free speech!!! FML! " It wasn't a speech to the Danish Parliament but to an anti-Muslim group. They masquerade as the Free Press Society, and give an award every year. | |||
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"Meanwhile Tommy Robinson gives a speech in the Danish Parliament after receiving a reward for free speech!!! FML! It wasn't a speech to the Danish Parliament but to an anti-Muslim group. They masquerade as the Free Press Society, and give an award every year. " Was it at the parliament? | |||
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