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"Also, like him or loathe him, but it's pretty dawned pathetic to hold a man to account for things he said as an immature child." True, to an extent. As an adult, though, he had a choice as to how to respond: Option A: Like many people, I've done things in my childhood and youth that I regret. I know it's late, but I'm so sorry for the pain that I caused. Option B: Fuck you, liar! | |||
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"As an adult, though, he had a choice as to how to respond: Option A: Like many people, I've done things in my childhood and youth that I regret. I know it's late, but I'm so sorry for the pain that I caused. Option B: Fuck you, liar!" To be fair to him, the accuser may actually be a liar. There's only his word that it happened, with no one else remembering it. And to be even fairer, who on earth remembers the things they said when they were 14? Maybe Nige genuinely believes that he didn't say those things. I don't think Farage had any choice here. If he'd gone for option A, his opponents would have taken that as an admission of racism, and would have constantly brought it up in every future debate. | |||
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" To be fair to him, the accuser may actually be a liar. There's only his word that it happened, with no one else remembering it. " https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/nov/25/three-more-ex-pupils-at-school-with-nigel-farage-reject-banter-claims | |||
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"We have been aware for a few years now, via a personal connection, that he has been involved in some directly racist "banter" when in "safe" company. Not expecting anyone to change their opinion based upon this but, for what it's worth, we see him as a racist at heart." The guys a racist, Mrs x | |||
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"We have been aware for a few years now, via a personal connection, that he has been involved in some directly racist "banter" when in "safe" company. Not expecting anyone to change their opinion based upon this but, for what it's worth, we see him as a racist at heart.The guys a racist, Mrs x" ‘If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck’ | |||
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"As an adult, though, he had a choice as to how to respond: Option A: Like many people, I've done things in my childhood and youth that I regret. I know it's late, but I'm so sorry for the pain that I caused. Option B: Fuck you, liar! To be fair to him, the accuser may actually be a liar. There's only his word that it happened, with no one else remembering it. And to be even fairer, who on earth remembers the things they said when they were 14? Maybe Nige genuinely believes that he didn't say those things. " Must be a huge conspiracy because apart from the guy accusing him there are several more who have confirmed it.. And wasn't this first reported over ten years ago.. Plus yeah as kids in our teens we all said and did daft stuff but making hissing sounds to a Jewish person and praising Hitler etc? Really? | |||
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"As I said on another thread; I would prefer if journalists questioned Farage about how his pet project of Brexit is going & his relationship with Nathan Gill, & the links, if any, between Reform & Russian money. Everyone is talking about what he said in his teens, vs. more serious issue of Gill (in my opinion)" Characters like Farage are only in it for themselves . They have already screwed us with Brexit and the lure of even more money and making himself a useful idiot for Putin is far too tempting to be passed up by these chancers. So as they say don't listen to what Farage says watch what he does.He is the opposite of what he portrays himself as folks. A duplicitous, slimy ego maniac are his few redeeming qualities | |||
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"The press have certainly got it in for him at the moment.. Racist slurs when at school Brexit costing the country billions Not forgetting the unfortunate incident with the purchase of a house in his constituency by his partner with the possible avoidance of tax in doing so (nothing proven so legally above board) Connections and funding from Russia for UKIP and individuals within his party Is the government running scared of Nige and attempted to sway public opinion through the press or is Nige in fact a baddy? " He may well feel flattered that the media are going to such trouble. In a way it shows he is being seen a a genuine threat | |||
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" ... ‘If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck’" What if it looks, walks and sounds like a slimeball? | |||
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"As I said on another thread; I would prefer if journalists questioned Farage about how his pet project of Brexit is going & his relationship with Nathan Gill, & the links, if any, between Reform & Russian money. Everyone is talking about what he said in his teens, vs. more serious issue of Gill (in my opinion) Characters like Farage are only in it for themselves . They have already screwed us with Brexit and the lure of even more money and making himself a useful idiot for Putin is far too tempting to be passed up by these chancers. So as they say don't listen to what Farage says watch what he does.He is the opposite of what he portrays himself as folks. A duplicitous, slimy ego maniac are his few redeeming qualities " So he is in it for the same reasons as 90% of other politicians then lol I. Shocked I tell ya | |||
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"For all his negative views on Europe and yet he married a German woman, is that a bit ironic?" He doesn't have negative views of Europe, he has negative views of the European Union. If they abandoned the EU and went back to the EEC, Farage would be all for joining up as soon as possible. | |||
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"For all his negative views on Europe and yet he married a German woman, is that a bit ironic? Mrs x" More importantly why did he arrange for his children to have dual UK and German citizenship after the Brexit vote…… Would that be so they could enjoy the benefits of being EU citizens that he was all too keen to deny us all of…. Just saying…. | |||
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"For all his negative views on Europe and yet he married a German woman, is that a bit ironic? Mrs x More importantly why did he arrange for his children to have dual UK and German citizenship after the Brexit vote…… Would that be so they could enjoy the benefits of being EU citizens that he was all too keen to deny us all of…. Just saying…." Could it be that he is just a greedy opportunist? | |||
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"For all his negative views on Europe and yet he married a German woman, is that a bit ironic? Mrs x More importantly why did he arrange for his children to have dual UK and German citizenship after the Brexit vote…… Would that be so they could enjoy the benefits of being EU citizens that he was all too keen to deny us all of…. Just saying…. Could it be that he is just a greedy opportunist?" | |||
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"For all his negative views on Europe and yet he married a German woman, is that a bit ironic? He doesn't have negative views of Europe, he has negative views of the European Union. If they abandoned the EU and went back to the EEC, Farage would be all for joining up as soon as possible." That’s quite a good differentiation to make, I don’t think the majority of those who voted leave have any problems with Europe, I know it makes good fodder to portray them all as xenophobic little Englanders, the lack of willingness to reform the EU and return it more to it’s trading basis was the issue for many. Apologies for derailing the thread, back to giving Mr Farage a roasting. | |||
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""More importantly why did he arrange for his children to have dual UK and German citizenship after the Brexit vote" Nothing to do with “arranging” nor “citizenship”. My three children are British because I am their father, and German because their mother is German; the three are de facto NATIONALS of both countries and are entitled to the benefits (they have two passports, don’t have to worry about the 90-day bollocks to come and visit us) and obligations (if my son were conscripted into one or other army he couldn’t wave the alternative passport and get out of it) of both. Ironically, one of Reform’s mantras is that persons of dual nationality should give one up* *our two youngest were born in Damascus and could, if they were to renounce their two European nationalities, become Syrian. I can’t see that happening, though..." I'm just waiting for my Irish Passport to arrive, grandad was born in Dublin. I'll use it to circumnavigate the 90/180 rules and Paul can piggy back me as long as I'm present. Feel free to call me anything you like,others have, don't care and I'm sure every politician out there doesn't give a flying f**k what a group of people on a swingers site think of them, I certainly wouldn't. | |||
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"He can't do any worse than the shower in charge at the moment." Why not? He could just as easily befar worse. | |||
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"I'm just waiting for my Irish Passport to arrive, grandad was born in Dublin. I'll use it to circumnavigate the 90/180 rules and Paul can piggy back me as long as I'm present. Feel free to call me anything you like,others have ..." What do they call you? What objection could people have to you getting able to get an Irish passport? | |||
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"It couldn’t have happened to a nicer bloke. I must go tell my mate and his kids that they are as bigoted and racist as they come, how dare him and his son who in their own words are as black as the road be paid up Reform members | |||
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"It couldn’t have happened to a nicer bloke. Are they bigoted and racist? Wouldn't be the first non white people I've come across that are bigoted and racist. | |||
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"I'm just waiting for my Irish Passport to arrive, grandad was born in Dublin. I'll use it to circumnavigate the 90/180 rules and Paul can piggy back me as long as I'm present. Feel free to call me anything you like,others have ... What do they call you? What objection could people have to you getting able to get an Irish passport?" Some say, you should be proud of being British, I am. Some say, you should only have one nationality and seem to infere I'm trying to fiddle something. That bit maybe true. I'm trying to circumnavigate the 90/180. The people who said these things were trying to mix in Brexit and are not well travelled and a bit thick. They thought Paul had to pay his employer for his Visas and Work Permits etc. Paul just burst out laughing and added how I would go about undoing the fact my grandad was born in Ireland and what they would do in our position. Suddenly, they tend not have any answers. Can't wait to try going through immigration, hope Paul gets told to go with those dirty, miserable 3rd Country people. | |||
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"I'm just waiting for my Irish Passport to arrive, grandad was born in Dublin. I'll use it to circumnavigate the 90/180 rules and Paul can piggy back me as long as I'm present. Feel free to call me anything you like,others have ..." "What do they call you? What objection could people have to you getting able to get an Irish passport?" "Some say, you should be proud of being British, I am. Some say, you should only have one nationality and seem to infere I'm trying to fiddle something. That bit maybe true. I'm trying to circumnavigate the 90/180." That's not circumnavigating the rule, it's just approaching it from a different angle. Some people just can't cope with the idea that others might have something they can't have. | |||
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"I'm just waiting for my Irish Passport to arrive, grandad was born in Dublin. I'll use it to circumnavigate the 90/180 rules and Paul can piggy back me as long as I'm present. Feel free to call me anything you like,others have ... What do they call you? What objection could people have to you getting able to get an Irish passport? Some say, you should be proud of being British, I am. Some say, you should only have one nationality and seem to infere I'm trying to fiddle something. That bit maybe true. I'm trying to circumnavigate the 90/180. That's not circumnavigating the rule, it's just approaching it from a different angle. Some people just can't cope with the idea that others might have something they can't have." As my nan used to say. They are more to be pitied than scolded. | |||
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"He had a chance to say he is not racist, instead he chose to say that he wouldn't be directly racist and that any thing said was not directed at an individual... Sounds like a racist to me." He's said that he isn't racist dozens of times. Why would he need to say it again? | |||
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"He had a chance to say he is not racist, instead he chose to say that he wouldn't be directly racist and that any thing said was not directed at an individual... Sounds like a racist to me. He's said that he isn't racist dozens of times. Why would he need to say it again?" He said he isn't racist.... But also said that any of the things he was accused of saying he wouldn't have said direct to a person, but would have been said in private... Racists | |||
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"He said he isn't racist.... But also said that any of the things he was accused of saying he wouldn't have said direct to a person, but would have been said in private... Racists" He didn't say that any of those things would have been said in private. What he's said was that he had "never directly racially abused anybody" and that he had probably "misspoken in my life, in my younger days, when I was a child". To me that's a clever politician's way of denying that he's ever been racist, while wording it such that if a recording comes out of him saying something that is no longer acceptable, he can't be called a liar. It seems very common these days to take what someone said several decades ago, and criticise them for using words that aren't acceptable today. I see Farage's words as just preemptively setting the stage in case this is a journalistic trap. | |||
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"He said he isn't racist.... But also said that any of the things he was accused of saying he wouldn't have said direct to a person, but would have been said in private... Racists He didn't say that any of those things would have been said in private. What he's said was that he had "never directly racially abused anybody" and that he had probably "misspoken in my life, in my younger days, when I was a child". To me that's a clever politician's way of denying that he's ever been racist, while wording it such that if a recording comes out of him saying something that is no longer acceptable, he can't be called a liar. It seems very common these days to take what someone said several decades ago, and criticise them for using words that aren't acceptable today. I see Farage's words as just preemptively setting the stage in case this is a journalistic trap." I wouldn't say he's a clever politician but he is a clever racist. You can say something racist and so long as you don't direct it at someone you're not going to get in a lot, if any, trouble. Direct racism is for the grunts who you influence to do your dirty work. | |||
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"He said he isn't racist.... But also said that any of the things he was accused of saying he wouldn't have said direct to a person, but would have been said in private... Racists He didn't say that any of those things would have been said in private. What he's said was that he had "never directly racially abused anybody" and that he had probably "misspoken in my life, in my younger days, when I was a child". To me that's a clever politician's way of denying that he's ever been racist, while wording it such that if a recording comes out of him saying something that is no longer acceptable, he can't be called a liar. It seems very common these days to take what someone said several decades ago, and criticise them for using words that aren't acceptable today. I see Farage's words as just preemptively setting the stage in case this is a journalistic trap." I'm no fan of Farage but if the only information anyone can dig up to discredit someone is from their adolescent years then you are really sc*aping the barrel. If the only bad things I did and said was during my teens then I should be put up as the next Archbishop of Canterbury. Can anyone of us say if you looked in your past there would be nothing to embarrass, shame or skimming Police investigation. I'd be banged to rights and say "far cop gov". Wish I was so righteous as all these folks on FAB forums, but I'm not. I'm just a man of many faults and floors and so proud of them, as they made me the man I am today, as I have the ability to develop abd learn. | |||
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"He said he isn't racist.... But also said that any of the things he was accused of saying he wouldn't have said direct to a person, but would have been said in private... Racists He didn't say that any of those things would have been said in private. What he's said was that he had "never directly racially abused anybody" and that he had probably "misspoken in my life, in my younger days, when I was a child". To me that's a clever politician's way of denying that he's ever been racist, while wording it such that if a recording comes out of him saying something that is no longer acceptable, he can't be called a liar. It seems very common these days to take what someone said several decades ago, and criticise them for using words that aren't acceptable today. I see Farage's words as just preemptively setting the stage in case this is a journalistic trap." No he didn't say they were said in private, but said he would never make those remarks directly. He didnt say that he would never say them.....so I guess they were said in private or indirectly. If he wasn't racist he would have said that he had never made those kind of remarks.... But he didn't say that... Draw your own conclusion. | |||
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