FabSwingers.com forum: Are you liberal or conservative?

By (user no longer on site) OP
29 weeks ago

And regardless of what you are do you have a preference for your meets political beliefs or don’t you care when it comes to fab? I think I’m centrist with views from the liberal world and conservative world I’m just curious how other people view them selves on this spectrum

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By *mileyculturebelfastMan
29 weeks ago

belfast

I veer from far left to far right depending on the issue.

I can't understand how people say they're one or the other.

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By *naswingdressWoman
29 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)

Neither. I'll occasionally vote as far right as liberal.

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By *gent CoulsonMan
29 weeks ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines

A person's political views dont bother me, I doubt we would be talking politics in the middle of a hot steamy session

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By *ecadentDeviantsCouple
29 weeks ago

North West

Political views should kept away from casual meets I think.

Cannot understand why someone’s views would be particularly relevant if you both aren’t going to stick around together for long?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
29 weeks ago

"A person's political views dont bother me, I doubt we would be talking politics in the middle of a hot steamy session"
hey who doesent like a cheeky chat about Keir in the middle of the deed

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By *naswingdressWoman
29 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)

"A person's political views dont bother me, I doubt we would be talking politics in the middle of a hot steamy session"

I don't make my views a secret, but I've had situations where guys - group setting - have said things to me like, I'm so glad we got Brexit done, to get those icky foreigners out.

🙋‍♀️icky foreigner representing. If I speak, you'll hear my accent.

One, gross, two, I voted in that referendum and I do not agree with you, please stop talking.

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By *CExeCouple
29 weeks ago

Hong-Kong/Exeter

Politics and sex isn't a hot mix. That said, I'm always amused by the Venus and Adonis lookalikes with their 'never kissed a Tory' tshirts.

I once showed a young couple a flat to rent and the lass was wearing a badge that said 'hang landlords'...I did have a fun chat with them, and still see them in town and say hi, but I did point out the badge and that it may well be why they had struggled to find a flat....same with the folks on here who rant about immigrants or Reform and then wonder why they're not getting any meets...

There are certain times and occasions where politics need to be shut away. Fab, with the exception of the politics forum is one of those places.

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By *tannersMan
29 weeks ago

stanley

It’s a swinging site, why does political viewpoint matter? And if it is important to you cover it in your preferences

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By *vaRoseWoman
29 weeks ago

Ankh-Morpork

"Neither. I'll occasionally vote as far right as liberal."

Same

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By *lym4realCouple
29 weeks ago

plymouth

All depends on the so called political beliefs really and wouldn't enjoy meeting anyone who use politics to justify being racist/homophobic ( how that even works if they want a 3some though?) and got afew friends who were all for "Brexit" and now spend most of their time saying it wasn't what they voted ( it is exactly ehat they voted for though) which we both find amusing but we tend to agree to disagree like adults should xx

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By *naswingdressWoman
29 weeks ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It’s a swinging site, why does political viewpoint matter? And if it is important to you cover it in your preferences"

It's in my profile.

My wording is something like "I don't want to have unpleasant conversations with people I'm intimate with". Because that's usually what ends up happening. Unpleasant conversations I try to escape.

Life is much better now my profile is a string of red flags for "leftist here". Whole lot less bullshit like that

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By (user no longer on site)
29 weeks ago

If anyone’s doing ‘Shags for Votes’ I’m in.

Other than that, politics can fuck right off. It’s a necessary evil apparently, but I have less interest in that than I do someone else’s toe jam.

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By *enda83Man
29 weeks ago

north

I think almost all politicians are absolute sub human pieces of utter shit but others would probably label me far right.

Others political views wouldn't bother me or put me off but wanting to talk politics would regardless of their views, fuck talking about that shit

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By *inger SiMan
29 weeks ago

West Midlands

Just putting it out there any Tories or Reformers or for that matter any party promoting any kind of Bigotry just block me please. Any left leaning tolerant folks come say hi.

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By *ealitybitesMan
29 weeks ago

Belfast

Anyone using politics as their USP either here on in any other social group would be ignored.

I have no time for political views from either end of the spectrum or anything in-between either.

Tribal politics were the bane of my life for 40 plus years so I don't listen to or watch news of any sort.

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By (user no longer on site)
29 weeks ago

I’d say I’m an unapologetic leftist. Not as far left as some of my friends, but I’ve always believed the real measure of a society is how it treats its most vulnerable and marginalised.

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By *ennineTopMan
29 weeks ago

York

Sorry, but I vet people on a number of issues (including patience, manners, willingness to communicate, political views and general sanity) and if we aren't compatible then nothing is going to happen.

If you are moderate centre-right then no problem but I wouldn't touch some of the posters on this forum with a barge poll.

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By (user no longer on site)
29 weeks ago

On aggregate, kind of centre, sort of, with an tendency to lean a little right more than left.

Neither far left or far right though. Balance is key in life.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
29 weeks ago

London

"Political views should kept away from casual meets I think.

Cannot understand why someone’s views would be particularly relevant if you both aren’t going to stick around together for long?"

Because for some people the personality of the person they're fucking matters, and politics is part of that.

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By *ostindreamsMan
29 weeks ago

London

Liberal/Conservative is not really a good categorisation.

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By (user no longer on site)
29 weeks ago

"And regardless of what you are do you have a preference for your meets political beliefs or don’t you care when it comes to fab? I think I’m centrist with views from the liberal world and conservative world I’m just curious how other people view them selves on this spectrum

What I have learned about politics is that is a con lies to take as much money as they can from a lie.

and a system that makes us work to make a system that doesn't exist work.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
29 weeks ago

Colchester

I suppose it's probably easier to say what I am against and what I support

- Authoritarianism

+ Self Autonomy

+ Compassion

+ Humanism

+ Anarcho-syndicalism

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By *abioMan
29 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I have always described myself as Socially liberal, fiscally conservative…..

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By *roadShoulderzMan
29 weeks ago

Petersfield

I like meeting open minded, adventurous, intelligent, attentive playmates.

Obviously that rules out Tory and Reform voters, but c'est la vie.

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By *ookingFor.....Man
27 weeks ago

Horsham/Crawley

"I’d say I’m an unapologetic leftist. Not as far left as some of my friends, but I’ve always believed the real measure of a society is how it treats its most vulnerable and marginalised."

The modern Labour Party treats its core supporters, who are often some of the most vulnerable and marginalised, like embarrassing relatives because they don’t have the correct views.

Labour are essentially just the political party for middle class public sector/3rd sector employees.

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By *izandpaulCouple
27 weeks ago

merseyside

I make each decision as it comes, don't consider political doctrine.

For swingers meets, tend to have a glance at their forum posts and as long as they don't want to bang on about politics or their medical issues during a meet, its all good.

We did notice during a holiday in a swingers resort a few couples we met were getting on well and the subject of what flights we used came up and one couple said they use their own plane, the other couple wouldn't speak to them and made disparaging remarks regarding this couples financial standing.

A very sad state of affairs, one minute getting along fine, the next, blanked.

Keep social standing, wealth or lack of it and politics out of swinging, just judge people as they are on the night, its the only area of life were we can meet and our social standing is irrelevant.

Just be nice, keep political bias out of swinging.

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By *ookingFor.....Man
27 weeks ago

Horsham/Crawley

“…used their own plane…”

That’s hilarious.

I think I’d have been a bit impressed, whilst also a bit horrified that they’d flaunt their wealth in such a vulgar way, but kept my views to myself.

As long as they didn’t talk about money constantly and were hot and seemed nice, then game on!

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
27 weeks ago

Border of London

Liberal (adjective):

1. willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

2. relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.

Conservative:

1. averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.

2. (in a political context) favouring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.

Perhaps many on here are a mix of both. Non-binary, if you will.

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By (user no longer on site)
27 weeks ago

for me, "keeping politics out of it" usually means "let's ignore the things that actually affect people’s lives." Politics isn’t just elections or party slogans — it’s how we treat each other, who we include, who we exclude. Saying it doesn’t belong anywhere is like saying empathy has an off-switch.

If someone’s views deny other people’s rights or dignity, that’s not just “politics,” it’s character. And yeah, I’m a raging leftist — because equality, compassion, and honesty shouldn’t be controversial values.

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By *exanthemMan
27 weeks ago

Wrexham

I am centrist or right - I clearly see what happens in my country of birth is happening in UK - special group of people are forming ghettos and imposing their views on others, they aren’t interested in what is right for Uk rather what is right for their religion. Anything that supports their global cause or numbers to grow they blindly support. The problem doesn’t stop here, wherever these folks have formed a ghettos, entire English life vanishes, no pubs, no clubs, park filled with single gender people, hate rainbow and its supporters. Majority of their men and women live on benefits, create male dominated society around and force less and less women participation in general life outside of the household chores. They are intelligent and take advantage of leftist idea of equal treatment, freedom of speech and expression to impose their way of life of ideas on non believers. Leftist become their playground…as these people use them and their idea for their own religious benefits. From not allowing women to participate in marathon to not allowing women shake hands and eat by hiding her face behind a cloth in public places are something they call freedom of expression and leftist have to bend their back in front of them.

Difficult times ahead for UK. The problem with native whites are they don’t understand the difference between browns - and hence they attack on all that have brown colour, Rap INg Sikh and Hindus women.

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By *ookingFor.....Man
27 weeks ago

Horsham/Crawley

"I like meeting open minded, adventurous, intelligent, attentive playmates.

Obviously that rules out Tory and Reform voters, but c'est la vie."

That’s not very open minded of you at all.

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By *ookingFor.....Man
27 weeks ago

Horsham/Crawley

"for me, "keeping politics out of it" usually means "let's ignore the things that actually affect people’s lives." Politics isn’t just elections or party slogans — it’s how we treat each other, who we include, who we exclude. Saying it doesn’t belong anywhere is like saying empathy has an off-switch.

I believe in equality, compassion and honesty.

Those beliefs are not the monopoly of ‘the left’.

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By *ostindreamsMan
27 weeks ago

London

"Liberal (adjective):

1. willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

2. relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.

Conservative:

1. averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values.

2. (in a political context) favouring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.

Perhaps many on here are a mix of both. Non-binary, if you will.

Yeah liberal Vs conservative is an American view of simplifying political views. None of the two covers socialism or progressivism, although in America, liberalism has become an umbrella term used to cover the progressives too.

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By (user no longer on site)
27 weeks ago

I believe in equality, compassion and honesty.

Those beliefs are not the monopoly of ‘the left’."

True — equality and compassion don’t belong to any side. The issue is that, in practice, it’s mostly the modern right attacking those ideas. When people rail against “wokeness,” what they’re really rejecting is empathy and fairness being applied consistently.

So yes, anyone can believe in those values. But if your politics work against them in policy or rhetoric, then claiming them rings hollow.

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By *izandpaulCouple
27 weeks ago

merseyside

"“…used their own plane…”

That’s hilarious.

I think I’d have been a bit impressed, whilst also a bit horrified that they’d flaunt their wealth in such a vulgar way, but kept my views to myself.

As long as they didn’t talk about money constantly and were hot and seemed nice, then game on!

They didn't really flaunt their wealth and didn't mention their plane until we all discussed the usual stuff about plane times, baggage and our compensation received from Ryanair.

When pushed about what flight they used he just said, I used my own plane and left it at that but once she got a bee in her bonnet it became a million questions.

I thought it was hilarious and sad for this lady in equal measures.

Later on during the evening he did whisper, "do you think she will have a go at me if I offer to get the next round in, if I don't, I'm a tight arse, if I do, I'm showing off, can't win"

I was interested in how long, what type, where he went etc etc, she seemed to have a problem with wealth or anyone with a few quid.

I didn't respond when she said people with more than 1 home should have them confiscated. When we asked where would the money come from to compensate the house owner she said no money should change hands, just take the houses off them.

We all just smiled, shrugged our shoulders and moved on to another chat, even her husband did a shrug of his shoulders, probably heard it all before.

As the booze flowed and the night progressed the inevitable question arose "have you ever shagged anyone in your plane"..... Happy times

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By *ctionSandwichCouple
27 weeks ago

Newcastle under Lyme

Anti establishment would be us.

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By *ortyairCouple
26 weeks ago

Wallasey

Left of centre, Mrs x

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By *ools and the brainCouple
26 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Fucked if I know, it's rare that I agree with any political parties opinions.

I'd just like to feel that whoever they are they are doing it to actually help people not just trying to score brownie points.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
26 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

I no longer vote but I would say my thoughts on society are probably classed as right of centre.

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By *G LanaTV/TS
26 weeks ago

Gosport

Center progressive.

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By *estivalMan
26 weeks ago

borehamwood

I'm neither,not voted in years,it does amuse me that people on the left and right actually think politicians have there best interests at heart the only intrest they have is what can I say that will keep me in this cushy job,as for meeting people if I met someone and they started telling me there political views either left or right I'd be out of there sharpish

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By (user no longer on site)
26 weeks ago

I’d be offended by either label. ‘Conservative’ has drifted so far right it’s barely recognisable, and ‘liberal’ these days usually just means centrist with better PR. I’m quite happy being a leftist — at least it still implies wanting change rather than just managing decline.

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By *ookingFor.....Man
26 weeks ago

Horsham/Crawley

I think I’m quite left wing, but the definition of being working class now is that you’re actually far right.

So, in summary I’m ’far right’.

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By *ennineTopMan
26 weeks ago

York

There's some understandable confusion about labels and word like liberal can mean different things in different contexts.

My understanding is that there are multiple dimensions of political description. The three most commonly discussed ones being...

Left-right.

Liberal-conservative.

Progressive-reactionary.

These are often aligned so you'll often find that someone on the left is also liberal and progressive but it's not always the case.

So for instance there are a some left-wingers who are conservative and reactionary and some right-wingers who are liberal and progressive.

You might find some people who consider themselves right-wing, liberal and reactionary.

In this model left-right is considered to be about economic position.

Liberal-conservative is about concepts of freedom.

Progressive-reactionary is about concepts of change.

But it's complicated as you will find some people who describe themselves as liberal conservatives because they like individual freedom but also like traditional order even though to many of us these things might seem to be in opposition.

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