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Are russia escalating the war?

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
34 weeks ago

From the land of haribos.

With the latest drone attack from russia on poland, not just that, but one russian minister also said that they will attack all countries that supports ukraine too, do, you think this will escalate the war? I think It will and it will not help with the peace process.

I didnt know this, did you? Tusk also said that polish airspace was violated 19 times and at least three drones were shot down by warsaws jets.

What do you think of the drone attack against poland, was it deliberate or by mistake?

I agree with others who have looked into it and it looks like it was a deliberate attack as well.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
34 weeks ago

nearby

There is no peace process. The allies know it but won’t sanction western assistance to help Ukraine.

As for Russia they are taking the piss and again wordy western leaders won’t do jack.

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By (user no longer on site)
34 weeks ago

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By (user no longer on site)
34 weeks ago

It might just have been a navigational error, but in the big picture it does seem Russia aided and abetted by China and N.Korea are seeking a confrontation with the West. Fortunately for us, Ukraine's brave and stubborn resistance has bought the UK and Europe time to re-arm. Let's hope we're doing it with all haste.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
34 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"It might just have been a navigational error, but in the big picture it does seem Russia aided and abetted by China and N.Korea are seeking a confrontation with the West. Fortunately for us, Ukraine's brave and stubborn resistance has bought the UK and Europe time to re-arm. Let's hope we're doing it with all haste."

I said last week the meeting in China was a big concern it showed Putin and China as besties, now Putin knows China are going to " have his back" he's just going to keep on pushing the limits, he's trying to provoke a response to justify all out war.

THE only country that can prevent this is the USA and we've already seen that Putin has Trump in his pocket.

This would never had happened when Bush was in office or Obama.

I can't see this situation ever ending well for anyone.

We don't have the military power to with hold a sustained attack from russian forces thanks to decades of military personnel cutbacks,I think we'd be lucky if we could defend the isle of wight let alone the mainland.

Hope you all are brushing up on your Russian and Mandarin?

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
34 weeks ago

nearby


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THE only country that can prevent this is the USA

We don't have the military power to with hold a sustained attack from russian forces thanks to decades of military personnel cutbacks,I think we'd be lucky if we could defend the isle of wight let alone the mainland.

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Russian gains are small, Europe has put in some money and armaments, while sat on 3300 fighter aircraft and last time I looked 6700 odd tanks, what’s been given to Ukraine so far is peanuts by comparison, it took the allies a year to pluck up courage to send a tank and two years to send an aircraft. After Crimea, the west asleep at the wheel. Even Lord Dannet ex chief to general staff said on 20 February 2022 said Russia would not invade Ukraine. All these nato meetings, photo shoots and handshakes of solidarity are inadequate.

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By *octor ProdMan
34 weeks ago

Constantly Travelling With Work

Russia have no intention of starting a war, yes they rattle the cage every so often, but they know war is not the answer to their aims.

What they are doing is using the media and political influence to destabilise politics and economies. Russia funded Brexit, which damaged the UK economy and will do for over 20 years. There is a belief by some in the civil service that the Liz Truss budget may have been influenced by outside forces, that may themselves have been influenced by Russia. Then we have the current US situation with Trump's Russian connection questioned and the strange voting system issues (that look like the Russian election patterns)

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By *ecadentDeviantsCouple
34 weeks ago

North West

Russia have been toying with The West since their invasion.

They know there are limits to what The West are prepared to do when they are up against the world’s biggest nuclear Arsenal.

I actually agree with Putin when he calls it a ‘Special Military Operation’ - if it wasn’t & the Russians actually went balls out, Kiev would be rubble long before now.

& what would The West do exactly? ‘Sanction them harder’ ?

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By (user no longer on site)
34 weeks ago


"It might just have been a navigational error, but in the big picture it does seem Russia aided and abetted by China and N.Korea are seeking a confrontation with the West. Fortunately for us, Ukraine's brave and stubborn resistance has bought the UK and Europe time to re-arm. Let's hope we're doing it with all haste.

I said last week the meeting in China was a big concern it showed Putin and China as besties, now Putin knows China are going to " have his back" he's just going to keep on pushing the limits, he's trying to provoke a response to justify all out war.

THE only country that can prevent this is the USA and we've already seen that Putin has Trump in his pocket.

This would never had happened when Bush was in office or Obama.

I can't see this situation ever ending well for anyone.

We don't have the military power to with hold a sustained attack from russian forces thanks to decades of military personnel cutbacks,I think we'd be lucky if we could defend the isle of wight let alone the mainland.

Hope you all are brushing up on your Russian and Mandarin?"

Well German GDP alone is 3 times that of Russia, and the EU's 10 times. So with the right priorities Europe could counter Russia without the US. Whether a re-armed Germany is a good thing is a moot point.

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By (user no longer on site)
34 weeks ago

I’m not sure why anyone thinks Russia wants to invade the UK. What does the UK have that Russia wants?

As for anyone else the US has quite rightly determined that it has zero interests in Ukraine now that the Biden Crime Family isn’t in power.

I also don’t understand why Russia would feel particularly threatened by an EU that keeps funding Russia’s war efforts by buying Russian gas. As usual the EU is just an irrelevant hypocritical talking shop.

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By *ennineTopMan
34 weeks ago

York

Russia is poking the West in various ways. Anything that stresses or weakens the US, EU and NATO is good for him, hence his support for Trump, Brexit and any other force that might divide the West.

Putin wants Ukraine because he genuinely considers it to be part of the Russian domain. He wants all the old Soviet Union territory back under his tight control.

He's also confident because Trump, Farage, Le Pen, Meloni, Orban and others all admire him. This isn't strange as he's a right-wing nationalist who supports old-fashioned conservative Christian values.

They may not want Putin on their doorstep or to take over all of Ukraine but they share his value system.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
34 weeks ago

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By *anifestoMan
34 weeks ago

F

100% they are

The claims of accidents only lasts so long

I don't know how Europe and NATO neutralizes the threat from this maniac Putin but I hope they can before he gets notions about Lithuania, Sweden, Poland and possibly other countries further West

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By *anifestoMan
34 weeks ago

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"I’m not sure why anyone thinks Russia wants to invade the UK. What does the UK have that Russia wants? "

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By *otMe66Man
34 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"100% they are

The claims of accidents only lasts so long

I don't know how Europe and NATO neutralizes the threat from this maniac Putin but I hope they can before he gets notions about Lithuania, Sweden, Poland and possibly other countries further West "

They didn't know how to deal with Russia in 1990, 2008, 2014, 2022 and they are still no closer now.

What is clear, if you do a deal or suggest a deal with Russia, it is best to stick to the agreement rather than try and flex.

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By *ennineTopMan
34 weeks ago

York


"They didn't know how to deal with Russia in 1990, 2008, 2014, 2022 and they are still no closer now.

What is clear, if you do a deal or suggest a deal with Russia, it is best to stick to the agreement rather than try and flex."

Didn't Russia break the terms of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, the Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership of 1997 and the Minsk Agreement of 2014?

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By *otMe66Man
34 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"They didn't know how to deal with Russia in 1990, 2008, 2014, 2022 and they are still no closer now.

What is clear, if you do a deal or suggest a deal with Russia, it is best to stick to the agreement rather than try and flex.

Didn't Russia break the terms of the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, the Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership of 1997 and the Minsk Agreement of 2014?"

There were broken promises on all sides. What is relatively clear is the reunification of Germany has had repercussions Europe and the US were not prepared for.

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By *ennineTopMan
34 weeks ago

York


"There were broken promises on all sides. What is relatively clear is the reunification of Germany has had repercussions Europe and the US were not prepared for."

What repercussions of the reunification of Germany do you have in mind exactly?

I know Putin was based in the GDR as a KGB agent who interfaced with the Stasi in the 1980's. Are you saying that this is linked to the invasion of Ukraine or something?

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By *ecadentDeviantsCouple
34 weeks ago

North West

Fwiw, I don’t condone Putin’s invasion, not at all.

BUT I’m of the opinion that NATO expansion fuelled Russian paranoia hence we are where we are. George Kennan pretty much foresaw this when NATO began expanding eastward in 1997.

Easy to say Russia had nothing to fear from an expanding NATO when you are sat on this side of the fence isn’t it?

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By *ennineTopMan
34 weeks ago

York


"Fwiw, I don’t condone Putin’s invasion, not at all.

BUT I’m of the opinion that NATO expansion fuelled Russian paranoia hence we are where we are. George Kennan pretty much foresaw this when NATO began expanding eastward in 1997.

Easy to say Russia had nothing to fear from an expanding NATO when you are sat on this side of the fence isn’t it?"

For sure Putin sees Ukraine partly as a buffer zone against NATO but he also views it as rightfully his territory. I suspect ultimately he would like all of Ukraine and then have Poland as a buffer zone. Along with Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldova, Romania...

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
Forum Mod
34 weeks ago

Central

Russia doesn't particularly care about us in the west end wants to know our red lines, so that it's better able to forecast and plan its strategy. I see this intrusion as doing just that. Putin doesn't view Trump as any substantial threat. If they did, they would dispatch him.

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By *otMe66Man
34 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"There were broken promises on all sides. What is relatively clear is the reunification of Germany has had repercussions Europe and the US were not prepared for.

What repercussions of the reunification of Germany do you have in mind exactly?

I know Putin was based in the GDR as a KGB agent who interfaced with the Stasi in the 1980's. Are you saying that this is linked to the invasion of Ukraine or something? "

Two things happened, the most important one is highly disputed. The USSR was not keen on the reunification due to the possibility of NATO spreading along the east, a promise of NATO will not move one inch to the east from the US was meant to ease that worry. This never made its way into a treaty and is something one side is saying was promised and the other saying it wasn't. What happened after the reunification was NATO took in Poland, Hungary, Czech republic and Baltic states followed over a number of years.

NATO stated Ukraine and Georgia would become members in 2008, Russia cut that off and moved into Georgia.

Russia believed NATO was cutting them off from their naval base, resulting in Crimea being taken. The rest is history, Putin is pushing NATO back and taking land he believes he needs to reinstate a firmer hold.

The exact truths are always going to be he said, she said, but it is clear to me that if you are going to challenge Russia you had better get it done and leave no room for them to exploit.

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