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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭" Sounds like you hate it. Enough to post about it. | |||
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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭 Sounds like you hate it. Enough to post about it." Well yeah, I guess I hate hatred, does this mean I'm a bad person??  | |||
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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭 Sounds like you hate it. Enough to post about it. Well yeah, I guess I hate hatred, does this mean I'm a bad person?? "Like people who tolerate everyone but the intolerant? You've kind of answered your own question. Hatred is strong enough to get people to engage. It's why social media companies promote it, it's why rage baiting works. That attracts eyeballs and engagement, just like sex. And weight loss. And penis enlargement. And the promise of wealth. | |||
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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭" You're right. | |||
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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭" I agree. Lucy Connolly called for migrant hotels to be burnt with people inside. Ricky Jones called for cutting peoples throats. Hopefully neither of those things will actually happen. The worrying thing is these are two people on opposite sides of an issue that isn’t going to go away. Emotions are clearly running very high and that’s only going to get worse because the initial trigger isn’t going away. In here I think things are actually more calm because people’s posts are policed to some extent. There are rules and on the whole those rules are adhered to. The mods have a tricky job I think deciding what abusive and what’s not and not everyone will agree with where a line gets drawn. What I would like to see is where people make personal attacks on individuals just deleted by a mod and then hopefully the hint will be taken. I see a phrase used all the time, “are you ok” which is very passive aggressive. They are not really asking if someone is ok at all, they are questioning their mental state. But it’s allowed. I don’t make the rules, it’s not my site. But out in the real world I expect to see things get worse before they get better | |||
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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭" I mean divide and conquer is the most effective way of controlling the population. | |||
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"So the question becomes, is the “conflict” being deliberately fuelled by the government so they can bring in more radical laws to control us? Do they purely just not give a shit either way? Or are they so stupid they can’t smell the coffee? " So you are blaming the current government for the current "conflict"? How does that work, for you? | |||
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"So the question becomes, is the “conflict” being deliberately fuelled by the government so they can bring in more radical laws to control us? Do they purely just not give a shit either way? Or are they so stupid they can’t smell the coffee? So you are blaming the current government for the current "conflict"? How does that work, for you? " Learn to read if you want to discuss my posts. I don’t comment on stuff i haven’t said | |||
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"So the question becomes, is the “conflict” being deliberately fuelled by the government so they can bring in more radical laws to control us? Do they purely just not give a shit either way? Or are they so stupid they can’t smell the coffee? So you are blaming the current government for the current "conflict"? How does that work, for you? Learn to read if you want to discuss my posts. I don’t comment on stuff i haven’t said " Oh, I'm sorry, I thought double standards were allowed, from your previous interactions with multiple forum members. | |||
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"So the question becomes, is the “conflict” being deliberately fuelled by the government so they can bring in more radical laws to control us? Do they purely just not give a shit either way? Or are they so stupid they can’t smell the coffee? So you are blaming the current government for the current "conflict"? How does that work, for you? Learn to read if you want to discuss my posts. I don’t comment on stuff i haven’t said Oh, I'm sorry, I thought double standards were allowed, from your previous interactions with multiple forum members. " Interesting on a thread about someone being upset by all the hatred being shown, you choose to try and start an argument. Classy, very classy. | |||
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"So the question becomes, is the “conflict” being deliberately fuelled by the government so they can bring in more radical laws to control us? Do they purely just not give a shit either way? Or are they so stupid they can’t smell the coffee? So you are blaming the current government for the current "conflict"? How does that work, for you? Learn to read if you want to discuss my posts. I don’t comment on stuff i haven’t said Oh, I'm sorry, I thought double standards were allowed, from your previous interactions with multiple forum members. Interesting on a thread about someone being upset by all the hatred being shown, you choose to try and start an argument. Classy, very classy. " Not starting an argument. Pointing out the double standards, some may say hypocrisy, at play. Hate is a wasted emotion, in my opinion. | |||
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"So the question becomes, is the “conflict” being deliberately fuelled by the government so they can bring in more radical laws to control us? Do they purely just not give a shit either way? Or are they so stupid they can’t smell the coffee? So you are blaming the current government for the current "conflict"? How does that work, for you? Learn to read if you want to discuss my posts. I don’t comment on stuff i haven’t said Oh, I'm sorry, I thought double standards were allowed, from your previous interactions with multiple forum members. Interesting on a thread about someone being upset by all the hatred being shown, you choose to try and start an argument. Classy, very classy. Not starting an argument. Pointing out the double standards, some may say hypocrisy, at play. Hate is a wasted emotion, in my opinion. " I won’t take the bait. Enjoy | |||
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"So the question becomes, is the “conflict” being deliberately fuelled by the government so they can bring in more radical laws to control us? Do they purely just not give a shit either way? Or are they so stupid they can’t smell the coffee? So you are blaming the current government for the current "conflict"? How does that work, for you? Learn to read if you want to discuss my posts. I don’t comment on stuff i haven’t said Oh, I'm sorry, I thought double standards were allowed, from your previous interactions with multiple forum members. Interesting on a thread about someone being upset by all the hatred being shown, you choose to try and start an argument. Classy, very classy. Not starting an argument. Pointing out the double standards, some may say hypocrisy, at play. Hate is a wasted emotion, in my opinion. I won’t take the bait. Enjoy " No bait. That's your interpretation.  | |||
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"So the question becomes, is the “conflict” being deliberately fuelled by the government so they can bring in more radical laws to control us? Do they purely just not give a shit either way? Or are they so stupid they can’t smell the coffee? So you are blaming the current government for the current "conflict"? How does that work, for you? Learn to read if you want to discuss my posts. I don’t comment on stuff i haven’t said " Nah, your thing is commenting on stuff other people haven't said. | |||
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"The Leftists on the forum do seem to be getting increasingly angry. " ... while the people on the right always display zen-like calm? 🤡 | |||
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"The Leftists on the forum do seem to be getting increasingly angry. ... while the people on the right always display zen-like calm? 🤡" Seeing your posts I’m amazed Labour is tanking in the polls and is so unpopular. I’m sure the top priorities of the average British working family are “kids in Gaza”, racism, and random virtue signalling. Finger on the pulse stuff. | |||
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"The Leftists on the forum do seem to be getting increasingly angry. ... while the people on the right always display zen-like calm? 🤡 Seeing your posts I’m amazed Labour is tanking in the polls and is so unpopular. I’m sure the top priorities of the average British working family are “kids in Gaza”, racism, and random virtue signalling. Finger on the pulse stuff. " What do the subjects of the threads I happen to have commented on have to do with your contention that only the left on here have trouble keeping their temper? At least try to stay on your own topics. | |||
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"Have you considered MumsNet?" lol that’s a rank website like 4chan  . Quite comical really some of the stuff there | |||
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"I have also noticed that, especially from the lefties, who are pro hamas and pro russia too." C'mon you lefties, fess up, you are Bolshevik treasonists aren't you?   | |||
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"I've been reading about an experiment where a teacher sat quietly and wouldn't say anything for an hour. People were envited do or say anything to her the teacher and she would not respond. It was found that at first people tried speaking to her then some stroked her hands her hair, trying to get a response. The dynamic started to change because she wouldnt react or respond. People started pushing her, her clothes were tugged, blouse buttons opened, still no response, anger crept in, threats were made, insults made, a slap across her face, eventually people were wanting to punch her, anything to get a response. When the hour was up, the teacher sat and smiled and the people pushing her, opening her blouse, the person who slapped her etc suddenly became sheepish of their actions. Society is but a light bulb switch away from chaos. " There is a similar story about Buddha. A man constantly tried to break his calmness with words and insults. Eventually the man gave up and asked Buddha how he was able to stay so calm, despite the constant verbal attack. He replied (and I paraphrase) “imagine if someone brings you a gift but you don’t accept it. To whom does the gift belong”. The Stamford University prison experiment makes for interesting reading too. | |||
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"Have you considered MumsNet?" My ex wife used to use that site when our son was little. Not been on there myself but the Mrs visited a few years ago when a forum thread on fabguys was talking about how homophobic many of the users seemed to be. She lasted about 48 hours before she got banned for being a bloke 😂 If it’s still the same, perhaps Ofcom should pay a visit? She definitely saw posts that could be considered hate crimes against gay men. | |||
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"I have also noticed that, especially from the lefties, who are pro hamas and pro russia too." Adding to my point about Russia being a right-wing country, you do realise that Hamas are on the far-right, yes? | |||
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"^^ there are similar stories doing the rounds with artists, therapists etc as the non reactive person. I suppose the moral of the story is the same" Yeah I’ve heard about this type of thing. I remember an episode of House MD where an artist invited people to use any of the items in her studio against her. A man picked up a petrol can and a means to light the fuel (can’t remember if it was matches or a lighter). He was stopped by the artists assistant before he could use them but the artist said he shouldn’t have stopped them. A work of fiction but certainly raises an interesting point of view. I personally don’t see the appeal to take part in or watch such a spectacle, or to be the artist for that matter. | |||
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"^^ I don't know why we need experiments to show us that people can be bad. It seems pretty obvious to me" Marina Abravovic, Rhythm 0, 1974. I dread to think what would happen if that was replicated today. | |||
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"I have also noticed that, especially from the lefties, who are pro hamas and pro russia too. Adding to my point about Russia being a right-wing country, you do realise that Hamas are on the far-right, yes?" Yes. I do. I was more on about the activists and political left groups who show support for them too. | |||
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"^^ I don't know why we need experiments to show us that people can be bad. It seems pretty obvious to me Marina Abravovic, Rhythm 0, 1974. I dread to think what would happen if that was replicated today. " Abramovic | |||
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"^^ I don't know why we need experiments to show us that people can be bad. It seems pretty obvious to me" I agree wholeheartedly. The harm one human can cause to another seems to have no bounds for some. And when in groups….. well doesn’t need further explanation. Are humans worse now than 5,000 years ago? 2,000? 200? Or do we just have more tools at our disposal now? | |||
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"Yes. I do. I was more on about the activists and political left groups who show support for them too." I have engage in a lot of political discussion and I don't personally know anyone on the left who has ever supported Russia or Hamas. Both are considered as being right-wing. | |||
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"The Leftists on the forum do seem to be getting increasingly angry. I’m expecting it to get worse as the Starmer regime slithers to its inevitable demise." They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, anyone to the right of Jeremy Corbyn, and anyone who wants a government who will implement the potential of Brexit. Meanwhile Starmer and co are dragging us down as they race to the bottom. | |||
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"Yes. I do. I was more on about the activists and political left groups who show support for them too. I have engage in a lot of political discussion and I don't personally know anyone on the left who has ever supported Russia or Hamas. Both are considered as being right-wing. " That is good, we have to agree to disagree on that too. | |||
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"That is good, we have to agree to disagree on that too." Maybe you have come across individuals on the left who support Russia or Hamas. I'll take your word for it, but it's certainly not something I've ever encountered. Russia is viewed as a right-wing authoritarian kleptocracy where already rich people who are in Putin's favour get to enjoy the spoils of vast corruption. I think some people on the right mistake general support for Palestinian rights and criticism of the Israeli government and the IDF as being support for Hamas. But in my experience Hamas is viewed by those of us on the left as a far-right jingoistic terrorist outfit that was supported by Netanyahu in an effort to sabotage the Palestinian Authority's desires for a two-state solution. | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, " "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. | |||
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"Have you considered MumsNet? My ex wife used to use that site when our son was little. Not been on there myself but the Mrs visited a few years ago when a forum thread on fabguys was talking about how homophobic many of the users seemed to be. She lasted about 48 hours before she got banned for being a bloke 😂 If it’s still the same, perhaps Ofcom should pay a visit? She definitely saw posts that could be considered hate crimes against gay men. " Wait till you see what they say about trans women like me
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"Have you considered MumsNet? My ex wife used to use that site when our son was little. Not been on there myself but the Mrs visited a few years ago when a forum thread on fabguys was talking about how homophobic many of the users seemed to be. She lasted about 48 hours before she got banned for being a bloke 😂 If it’s still the same, perhaps Ofcom should pay a visit? She definitely saw posts that could be considered hate crimes against gay men. Wait till you see what they say about trans women like me
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for." The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election." Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers." When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual." For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for." Or learning to accept your opinion | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. Or learning to accept your opinion " In fairness to the other chap, I haven't expressed an opinion, so he hasn't have to learn to accept it. Thanks though. | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. Or learning to accept your opinion In fairness to the other chap, I haven't expressed an opinion, so he hasn't have to learn to accept it. Thanks though." This site is littered with the opinions of JTN, most of pony in my opinion | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. Or learning to accept your opinion In fairness to the other chap, I haven't expressed an opinion, so he hasn't have to learn to accept it. Thanks though. This site is littered with the opinions of JTN, most of pony in my opinion" I think you have me confused with another forum user. I haven't expressed any pony based opinions. Thanks though. | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. Or learning to accept your opinion In fairness to the other chap, I haven't expressed an opinion, so he hasn't have to learn to accept it. Thanks though. This site is littered with the opinions of JTN, most of pony in my opinion I think you have me confused with another forum user. I haven't expressed any pony based opinions. Thanks though." I'm sure a poll of users would disagree. Thanks for your response though Johnny | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. Or learning to accept your opinion In fairness to the other chap, I haven't expressed an opinion, so he hasn't have to learn to accept it. Thanks though. This site is littered with the opinions of JTN, most of pony in my opinion I think you have me confused with another forum user. I haven't expressed any pony based opinions. Thanks though. I'm sure a poll of users would disagree. Thanks for your response though Johnny " Feel free to put up a poll somewhere. Thanks again for your contribution, as confusing as it is. | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for." I do not only ‘claim’ to love this country, I very much do. Even though I hate what the leftists and liberals are continually trying to do to it, and will never stop in my opposition to that. As for what (or whom) I’m voting for, I am well aware. That is why I will continue in my support for Reform UK, and will never stop. | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. I do not only ‘claim’ to love this country, I very much do. Even though I hate what the leftists and liberals are continually trying to do to it, and will never stop in my opposition to that. As for what (or whom) I’m voting for, I am well aware. That is why I will continue in my support for Reform UK, and will never stop." I think you've argued my case for me. Fair play.  | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. Or learning to accept your opinion In fairness to the other chap, I haven't expressed an opinion, so he hasn't have to learn to accept it. Thanks though. This site is littered with the opinions of JTN, most of pony in my opinion I think you have me confused with another forum user. I haven't expressed any pony based opinions. Thanks though. I'm sure a poll of users would disagree. Thanks for your response though Johnny Feel free to put up a poll somewhere. Thanks again for your contribution, as confusing as it is." Not necessary, the sensible on here can see and read your left leaning diatribe and feigning confusion is a poor escape route, Johnny Boy | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. Or learning to accept your opinion In fairness to the other chap, I haven't expressed an opinion, so he hasn't have to learn to accept it. Thanks though. This site is littered with the opinions of JTN, most of pony in my opinion I think you have me confused with another forum user. I haven't expressed any pony based opinions. Thanks though." Isn’t pony rhyming slang (pony and trap) meaning crap? Who’s modus operandi would that be, I wonder? | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. Or learning to accept your opinion In fairness to the other chap, I haven't expressed an opinion, so he hasn't have to learn to accept it. Thanks though. This site is littered with the opinions of JTN, most of pony in my opinion I think you have me confused with another forum user. I haven't expressed any pony based opinions. Thanks though. I'm sure a poll of users would disagree. Thanks for your response though Johnny Feel free to put up a poll somewhere. Thanks again for your contribution, as confusing as it is. Not necessary, the sensible on here can see and read your left leaning diatribe and feigning confusion is a poor escape route, Johnny Boy " Ah the classic "left leaning" which I'm assuming you mean "fab left". Which bears little to no relation to real life left wing. Anyways, back to the point in hand, division, hate, and people who are enthusiastic about voting Reform for even more of it. | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. Or learning to accept your opinion In fairness to the other chap, I haven't expressed an opinion, so he hasn't have to learn to accept it. Thanks though. This site is littered with the opinions of JTN, most of pony in my opinion I think you have me confused with another forum user. I haven't expressed any pony based opinions. Thanks though. Isn’t pony rhyming slang (pony and trap) meaning crap? Who’s modus operandi would that be, I wonder?"
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. I do not only ‘claim’ to love this country, I very much do. Even though I hate what the leftists and liberals are continually trying to do to it, and will never stop in my opposition to that. As for what (or whom) I’m voting for, I am well aware. That is why I will continue in my support for Reform UK, and will never stop. I think you've argued my case for me. Fair play. "Simple statement of fact. Reform UK will win the next election and will form the next government. But for me it won’t stop there, activism will have to continue. Because it will take more than one term to undo the damage caused by decades of LibLabCon. | |||
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" They will blame it all on the ‘right wing’ media, dog whistles and racism. Those labels will apply to anyone who loves this country and want it to change for the better, "Loves this country and want it to change for the better" is kinda subjective though. For example, the average Reform voter wants more division, more blame and hate pushed onto foreigners; want science to be removed for the basis of making political decisions, and replaced with whomever is paying the most cash (ie the fossil fuels industry); and in some cases want less brown people in Leicester. There are lots of people who would consider this showing contempt for core British values. And you could argue that these people don't love their country enough to spend any time looking into what they're voting for. The usual pile of poop coming from the usual suspect(s). I’m so looking forward to reading the same old shit on here when Reform UK win the next general election. Yeah, I mean if Reform get elected, continue to sew hate and division, continue to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, then you can expect the usual "poop" from the usual "suspects"/non-bootlickers. When we get elected, there are no ifs. The ‘hate and division’ will continue to be sewn by the left. As for the ‘fossil fuel industry,’ I prefer them to the scum that is Miliband and his machinations of net zero waste. I know the poop is to be expected, and know where it will be coming from, the left as per usual. For someone who claims to love the country, that doesn't seem to extend to being arsed to learn about what you're voting for. I do not only ‘claim’ to love this country, I very much do. Even though I hate what the leftists and liberals are continually trying to do to it, and will never stop in my opposition to that. As for what (or whom) I’m voting for, I am well aware. That is why I will continue in my support for Reform UK, and will never stop. I think you've argued my case for me. Fair play.
Simple statement of fact. Reform UK will win the next election and will form the next government. But for me it won’t stop there, activism will have to continue. Because it will take more than one term to undo the damage caused by decades of LibLabCon. "Ten years to achieve a complete neoliberal state that represents only the richest people and the biggest corporates, sells off all the public services, while keeping the population in a constant state of panic and fear about brown people, disabled people, trans people, any minority people? Could be right. But I hope not. | |||
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"Have you considered MumsNet? My ex wife used to use that site when our son was little. Not been on there myself but the Mrs visited a few years ago when a forum thread on fabguys was talking about how homophobic many of the users seemed to be. She lasted about 48 hours before she got banned for being a bloke 😂 If it’s still the same, perhaps Ofcom should pay a visit? She definitely saw posts that could be considered hate crimes against gay men. Wait till you see what they say about trans women like me
These people probably need throwing in a lake of fire
I just want to clarify, they have used words that in your opinion warrant the death penalty?
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"Have you considered MumsNet? My ex wife used to use that site when our son was little. Not been on there myself but the Mrs visited a few years ago when a forum thread on fabguys was talking about how homophobic many of the users seemed to be. She lasted about 48 hours before she got banned for being a bloke 😂 If it’s still the same, perhaps Ofcom should pay a visit? She definitely saw posts that could be considered hate crimes against gay men. Wait till you see what they say about trans women like me
These people probably need throwing in a lake of fire
I just want to clarify, they have used words that in your opinion warrant the death penalty?
As I say, never used the site so I don’t know what’s said. Could you give me an example?
It’s a biblical metaphor "I don’t read fairytales so I wouldn’t have known that. So you metaphorically want them to be killed? So again, can you give me an example of words that would drive such hatred within you? | |||
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"I do not only ‘claim’ to love this country, I very much do. Even though I hate what the leftists and liberals are continually trying to do to it, and will never stop in my opposition to that. As for what (or whom) I’m voting for, I am well aware. That is why I will continue in my support for Reform UK, and will never stop." Perhaps you could expand on what you mean by loving this country. It's a phrase often used by people on the right but rarely explained in any detail. You say you hate what leftists and liberals are continually trying to do yet these people make up a significant proportion of the UK population and much of the culture and infrastructue of the UK is based on their ideas and their activities over many decades. So clearly you hate some aspects of this country. | |||
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"I do not only ‘claim’ to love this country, I very much do. Even though I hate what the leftists and liberals are continually trying to do to it, and will never stop in my opposition to that. As for what (or whom) I’m voting for, I am well aware. That is why I will continue in my support for Reform UK, and will never stop. Perhaps you could expand on what you mean by loving this country. It's a phrase often used by people on the right but rarely explained in any detail. You say you hate what leftists and liberals are continually trying to do yet these people make up a significant proportion of the UK population and much of the culture and infrastructue of the UK is based on their ideas and their activities over many decades. So clearly you hate some aspects of this country. " I hate people of all nationalities (including British) that commit acts of violence and sexual assault against children. That doesn’t mean I hate their country or their nationality, it means I hate what they choose to do. A person on the left of the political divide will think those on the right have ideas and policies that if implemented will do harm to the country as a whole. So by your definition they hate some aspects of the country. It either works both ways or it don’t work at all. A certain section of the population are trying to distort national pride into racism. Ridiculous insinuations such as “the English ran sl@ve ships so all English people support sl@very”. Not saying you have said that but some people hold that logic. National pride in other countries (except Israel) seems to be ok tho. A pro Palestine march is ok but a pro Britain march isn’t. What’s wrong with national pride in one’s own country? | |||
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"I hate people of all nationalities (including British) that commit acts of violence and sexual assault against children. That doesn’t mean I hate their country or their nationality, it means I hate what they choose to do. A person on the left of the political divide will think those on the right have ideas and policies that if implemented will do harm to the country as a whole. So by your definition they hate some aspects of the country. It either works both ways or it don’t work at all. A certain section of the population are trying to distort national pride into racism. Ridiculous insinuations such as “the English ran sl@ve ships so all English people support sl@very”. Not saying you have said that but some people hold that logic. National pride in other countries (except Israel) seems to be ok tho. A pro Palestine march is ok but a pro Britain march isn’t. What’s wrong with national pride in one’s own country?" I've never come across anyone on the left or right who supports the sexual assault of children. Violence is pretty routine and supported or opposed depending on factors such as concepts of justice. I believe you've argued that the UK having a strong military force is a good thing. So you don't have an absolute objection to violence. I think defence is important too as it happens. Just because I'm on the left doesn't mean I don't support mainstream ideas like the country being able to defend itself from being attacked. I'm just trying to understand what patriotism means to the Reform supporting poster, as it's not obvious which elements of the country he loves and which he hates. Claiming to love the country while also saying you hate aspects of it is a bit of a confused position. I wouldn't use a blanket statement like I love the country as reality is more complex than that. On balance I love most aspects of the UK but there are some things that I don't like about it too. I'm just interested in hearing more about the guy's opinions. There's nothing wrong with being proud of one's country. The promotion of identitarianism is something quite different though. BTW my support for Palestine isn't nationalistic, I just want everyone in the area to enjoy peace and equal rights. My position on I/P is similar to the one I took against apartheid in South Africa. | |||
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"I hate people of all nationalities (including British) that commit acts of violence and sexual assault against children. That doesn’t mean I hate their country or their nationality, it means I hate what they choose to do. A person on the left of the political divide will think those on the right have ideas and policies that if implemented will do harm to the country as a whole. So by your definition they hate some aspects of the country. It either works both ways or it don’t work at all. A certain section of the population are trying to distort national pride into racism. Ridiculous insinuations such as “the English ran sl@ve ships so all English people support sl@very”. Not saying you have said that but some people hold that logic. National pride in other countries (except Israel) seems to be ok tho. A pro Palestine march is ok but a pro Britain march isn’t. What’s wrong with national pride in one’s own country? I've never come across anyone on the left or right who supports the sexual assault of children. Violence is pretty routine and supported or opposed depending on factors such as concepts of justice. I believe you've argued that the UK having a strong military force is a good thing. So you don't have an absolute objection to violence. I think defence is important too as it happens. Just because I'm on the left doesn't mean I don't support mainstream ideas like the country being able to defend itself from being attacked. I'm just trying to understand what patriotism means to the Reform supporting poster, as it's not obvious which elements of the country he loves and which he hates. Claiming to love the country while also saying you hate aspects of it is a bit of a confused position. I wouldn't use a blanket statement like I love the country as reality is more complex than that. On balance I love most aspects of the UK but there are some things that I don't like about it too. I'm just interested in hearing more about the guy's opinions. There's nothing wrong with being proud of one's country. The promotion of identitarianism is something quite different though. BTW my support for Palestine isn't nationalistic, I just want everyone in the area to enjoy peace and equal rights. My position on I/P is similar to the one I took against apartheid in South Africa. " I wasn’t aiming my pro Palestine comment at you specifically. Just at people who support those marches but oppose pro Britain marches. There are people who support the things I said regarding children. I have no idea what their politics are and I really don’t care. Their punishment should be 5 mins in a room with the children’s father so he can “explain how what they have done made him feel”. If he just happens to be on his way home from a cricket match and felt uneasy about leaving some of the equipment in his car, so be it. I can’t speak for the other person and I’m not a reform voter or supporter. I was just stating what my opinion on the subject was. But I also think people very often know what others mean, they just want to be pedantic about it. Something I can certainly be guilty of myself at times. But I’m not the type to try and make out that I’m all sweetness and light, unlike some | |||
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"I am genuinely interested in learning more about the thinking of people on the right. Such people aren't some homogenous blob, just like everyone on the left doesn't think the same way. So I'd like to hear more detail from the poster who says he's a strong supporter of Reform UK. In particular what he dislikes about liberal/left policies and how he imagines Reform's ideas will improve the economy. " maybe you could enlighten us with your own views . | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that." That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025. | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025." That’s bollocks, it’s got fuck all to do with ‘racism.’ People are fed up with immigrants getting a free ride in this country, ordinary everyday people have taken to the streets. The so called ‘counter protesters’ are anti British, anti white fucking scum. | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025. That’s bollocks, it’s got fuck all to do with ‘racism.’ People are fed up with immigrants getting a free ride in this country, ordinary everyday people have taken to the streets. The so called ‘counter protesters’ are anti British, anti white fucking scum." Genuinely unbelievable that someone actually thinks like this.
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025. That’s bollocks, it’s got fuck all to do with ‘racism.’ People are fed up with immigrants getting a free ride in this country, ordinary everyday people have taken to the streets. The so called ‘counter protesters’ are anti British, anti white fucking scum. Genuinely unbelievable that someone actually thinks like this.
The absolute state of this country nowadays. No wonder the UK is spinning faster down the metaphorical far-right toilet."The UK has a Labour government, headed by a pathetic so called ‘human rights’ lawyer. Decades of LibLabCon have made it the mess that it is, and the only way to stop the rot is to elect a Reform UK government at the next election. It is not people like me who made this mess, we have never had a voice as yet. It is the likes of you, but you have had your way for far too long. Our time is coming fast, and we will undo the shit that you have done to our country, for good… | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025. That’s bollocks, it’s got fuck all to do with ‘racism.’ People are fed up with immigrants getting a free ride in this country, ordinary everyday people have taken to the streets. The so called ‘counter protesters’ are anti British, anti white fucking scum. Genuinely unbelievable that someone actually thinks like this.
The absolute state of this country nowadays. No wonder the UK is spinning faster down the metaphorical far-right toilet.
The UK has a Labour government, headed by a pathetic so called ‘human rights’ lawyer. Decades of LibLabCon have made it the mess that it is, and the only way to stop the rot is to elect a Reform UK government at the next election.
It is not people like me who made this mess, we have never had a voice as yet. It is the likes of you, but you have had your way for far too long. Our time is coming fast, and we will undo the shit that you have done to our country, for good…"So we're getting even more ignorance about foreigners. Even more hate towards minority groups. Even more neoliberalism. Even more bigotry, division and hate to distract everyone. I'll be honest, doesn't sound great. Side note. I am not in government. Not a member of any of those political parties. Although I am flattered that you think I have that much power over the country. Thank you. | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025. That’s bollocks, it’s got fuck all to do with ‘racism.’ People are fed up with immigrants getting a free ride in this country, ordinary everyday people have taken to the streets. The so called ‘counter protesters’ are anti British, anti white fucking scum. Genuinely unbelievable that someone actually thinks like this.
The absolute state of this country nowadays. No wonder the UK is spinning faster down the metaphorical far-right toilet.
The UK has a Labour government, headed by a pathetic so called ‘human rights’ lawyer. Decades of LibLabCon have made it the mess that it is, and the only way to stop the rot is to elect a Reform UK government at the next election.
It is not people like me who made this mess, we have never had a voice as yet. It is the likes of you, but you have had your way for far too long. Our time is coming fast, and we will undo the shit that you have done to our country, for good…
So we're getting even more ignorance about foreigners. Even more hate towards minority groups. Even more neoliberalism. Even more bigotry, division and hate to distract everyone.
I'll be honest, doesn't sound great.
Side note. I am not in government. Not a member of any of those political parties. Although I am flattered that you think I have that much power over the country. Thank you. "Don’t thank me, I’m neither offering or intending to offer you any kind of compliment. I never said that you personally are a member of any LibLabCon party, just that people like you are. Also people like you are members of the pathetic ‘counter protests.’ Illegal immigrants have been tolerated here for far too long. They should be put directly into detention centres, until they had been charged of entering our country illegally, and then sent back to where they came from. Or, if that is not possible, to any other country willing to take them, which will not be anywhere in Europe. Nobody wants them, what a surprise!! | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country. They will support, not only the trade unions, but the likes of CND and the IRA. They support mass immigration, and just recently they have actively sought to ban patriotic people from flying the Union Flag and St George’s Cross. There can be no doubt that members of the left are the least patriotic people on these islands. The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that." Let's just unpack that a little bit to see how healthy your position is. Firstly, do we hate this country? "Hate" is a big word. While we do see some issues with it, I think "hate" more aptly describes your position, as we'll see. It's true we do generally support trade unions. Unions are the reason workers have rights and protections and decent pay. Unions are a fundamentally British idea, being as they originated here during the industrial revolution. But seems like you're not keen on that aspect of Britishness. Many of us also support the CND, because we don't want to see the UK involved in nuclear conflict. Seems like you're okay with the UK being a target for international nukes. As for us supporting the IRA, if you're going to allege things like that I'd like to see some evidence. We are broadly in favour of immigration, the welcoming of people from abroad to contribute to our country's rich cultural tapestry also being a deeply-held British value. People who love Britain are not against people from abroad coming here to share in its many virtues. Nobody has sought to ban patriotic from flying the national flags. To lie about that, or anything like it is, it seems to me, a profoundly un-British act. Are we the least patriotic people on these islands? You seem to fear or hate most of the people who live here. You hate our government, you hate our institutions, you hate our values of decency, solidarity, generosity and openness. I submit that it is in fact you who hate this country, and your support for people who gathered around a shelter for vulnerable people to intimidate them, as well as the above, is proof of that. | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country. They will support, not only the trade unions, but the likes of CND and the IRA. They support mass immigration, and just recently they have actively sought to ban patriotic people from flying the Union Flag and St George’s Cross. There can be no doubt that members of the left are the least patriotic people on these islands. The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. Let's just unpack that a little bit to see how healthy your position is. Firstly, do we hate this country? "Hate" is a big word. While we do see some issues with it, I think "hate" more aptly describes your position, as we'll see. It's true we do generally support trade unions. Unions are the reason workers have rights and protections and decent pay. Unions are a fundamentally British idea, being as they originated here during the industrial revolution. But seems like you're not keen on that aspect of Britishness. Many of us also support the CND, because we don't want to see the UK involved in nuclear conflict. Seems like you're okay with the UK being a target for international nukes. As for us supporting the IRA, if you're going to allege things like that I'd like to see some evidence. We are broadly in favour of immigration, the welcoming of people from abroad to contribute to our country's rich cultural tapestry also being a deeply-held British value. People who love Britain are not against people from abroad coming here to share in its many virtues. Nobody has sought to ban patriotic from flying the national flags. To lie about that, or anything like it is, it seems to me, a profoundly un-British act. Are we the least patriotic people on these islands? You seem to fear or hate most of the people who live here. You hate our government, you hate our institutions, you hate our values of decency, solidarity, generosity and openness. I submit that it is in fact you who hate this country, and your support for people who gathered around a shelter for vulnerable people to intimidate them, as well as the above, is proof of that." So this is you ‘unpicking’ things, huh? You say that you see issues with this country, but ‘hate is a big word.’ Yeah because you’d have to care enough in the first place, right? You support the trade unions because they can bring this country to its knees, demanding more money for idle bastards that are being paid too much already. You support CND because unilateral disarmament is such a great idea in such a dangerous world as this is. You deny that leftist support the IRA, well I’ve heard them singing ‘rebel songs’ in the pub many times, and so will have to digress. I am a patriot, I love my country enough that I’d be willing to die for it. I don’t believe that we have anything to gain from mass immigration, indeed I’m certain that we are done with being ‘culturally enriched.’ It is time to close our borders, it was time a long time ago. We’ve had nothing but bullshit politics since the end of World War Two, and are in desperate need of a change. It’s time for a party that will put us first, which is something I can’t remember ever happening. Put our people to the front of all the waiting lists, housing and jobs for a start. Get rid of ridiculous rules about inclusivity, because it only helps people who are not good enough to get that job or that promotion. | |||
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" So this is you ‘unpicking’ things, huh?" That is what I said, yes. "You say that you see issues with this country, but ‘hate is a big word.’ Yeah because you’d have to care enough in the first place, right?" Well, which is it? Do I hate this country, or am I indifferent to it? "You support the trade unions because they can bring this country to its knees, demanding more money for idle bastards that are being paid too much already." Again, there you go. For someone who claims to love your country, you sure have a dim view of its workforce. "You support CND because unilateral disarmament is such a great idea in such a dangerous world as this is." Yes, that is why. Britain could be a pioneer. You would prefer it to cower behind obsolete weaponry. "You deny that leftist support the IRA, well I’ve heard them singing ‘rebel songs’ in the pub many times, and so will have to digress." So a couple of guys at your local can safely be extrapolated to the entirely of half the political spectrum, in your view? Interesting. "I am a patriot," Everything you say proves otherwise. "I love my country enough that I’d be willing to die for it." And yet here you still are, so maybe don't take credit for the sacrifice of those who have died for it, eh? "I don’t believe that we have anything to gain from mass immigration," That's because you haven't bothered to find out what we do have to gain from it. "indeed I’m certain that we are done with being ‘culturally enriched.’" You are incontrovertible evidence that that's not true. "It is time to close our borders, it was time a long time ago." Both ways, or do you still want to eat gammon and chips on the Costa Blanca once a year? "We’ve had nothing but bullshit politics since the end of World War Two," It was great stuff before 1945 though, in your opinion? "and are in desperate need of a change." Why desperate? Are you currently in dire straits that only a different government would fix? Do tell. "It’s time for a party that will put us first, which is something I can’t remember ever happening." Maybe you haven't been paying attention. "Put our people to the front of all the waiting lists, housing and jobs for a start." Are you on a waiting list for a house with foreign nationals ahead of you? Are there waiting lists for jobs? "Get rid of ridiculous rules about inclusivity, because it only helps people who are not good enough to get that job or that promotion." Or maybe you're not good enough to get that job or that promotion, but you'd rather blame your lack of success on sonething other than your own failings. | |||
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"Maybe people, not necessarily on the left of the political spectrum, care enough about this country to not want a reform party in power. Mind you, anyone who doesn't hold your stance, by default, will be on the left. As recent General Elections have shown, the UK has a remarkably fluid electorate, neither ideologically left nor right. The vast majority of people care about their country, it's culture and laws. The problem is that politicians are not listening to the silent majority and consequently there is a growing undercurrent of disaffection. It's a recipe for a party like Reform gaining power and all that would bring. The press and wider media including social media are also to blame for pandering to extreme views and opinions rather than aiming for balance, both because it makes more money and because its owners are happy for its outlets to be mouthpieces for special interests to push their agendas. People like Yggdrasil and Buffelskloof didn't come by their hatred and paranoia all by themselves. Hang on, I thought you were a free speech 'absolutist'? Now you want to gag the media?" Take a minute to think about whether that's what I was suggesting, or whether it's a conclusion you jumped to based on your own preconceptions. | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025. That’s bollocks, it’s got fuck all to do with ‘racism.’ People are fed up with immigrants getting a free ride in this country, ordinary everyday people have taken to the streets. The so called ‘counter protesters’ are anti British, anti white fucking scum. Genuinely unbelievable that someone actually thinks like this.
The absolute state of this country nowadays. No wonder the UK is spinning faster down the metaphorical far-right toilet."I have thought that many many times at first it was amusing. but now it is dam right scary, Reform will never achieve anything because basically Reform are a racist full of misinformed people, one of their members a young member was deputy leader in Northampton I think. He has been removed from his position after it emerged he had fake accounts which were racist and anti jewish. That sums up Reform. | |||
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"Maybe people, not necessarily on the left of the political spectrum, care enough about this country to not want a reform party in power. Mind you, anyone who doesn't hold your stance, by default, will be on the left. As recent General Elections have shown, the UK has a remarkably fluid electorate, neither ideologically left nor right. The vast majority of people care about their country, it's culture and laws. The problem is that politicians are not listening to the silent majority and consequently there is a growing undercurrent of disaffection. It's a recipe for a party like Reform gaining power and all that would bring. The press and wider media including social media are also to blame for pandering to extreme views and opinions rather than aiming for balance, both because it makes more money and because its owners are happy for its outlets to be mouthpieces for special interests to push their agendas. People like Yggdrasil and Buffelskloof didn't come by their hatred and paranoia all by themselves. Hang on, I thought you were a free speech 'absolutist'? Now you want to gag the media? They dint say anything about gagging. Perhaps responsible reporting? " But who gets to decide what is responsible? To me the term 'absolutist' means unrestricted free speech by anybody. You can't have it both ways eh? | |||
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" But who gets to decide what is responsible? To me the term 'absolutist' means unrestricted free speech by anybody. You can't have it both ways eh?" Or maybe it's possible for us to believe that the news media could do a much better job, while also not wanting to gag it. You should at least have a crack at not immediately going to the worst and most hypocritical interpretation of what people say. | |||
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"The Leftists on the forum do seem to be getting increasingly angry. I’m expecting it to get worse as the Starmer regime slithers to its inevitable demise." The perception of left and right is, as Einstein proved, relative. If a person views another as Leftish then they themselves are, by definition, Rightish. The Right does not have the monopoly on good ideas or competence as exampled by their 14 years in power and the parlous state they left the country in. Leave Kier Starmer to have his go. He has been there less that 14 months let alone 14 years. | |||
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"Maybe people, not necessarily on the left of the political spectrum, care enough about this country to not want a reform party in power. Mind you, anyone who doesn't hold your stance, by default, will be on the left. As recent General Elections have shown, the UK has a remarkably fluid electorate, neither ideologically left nor right. The vast majority of people care about their country, it's culture and laws. The problem is that politicians are not listening to the silent majority and consequently there is a growing undercurrent of disaffection. It's a recipe for a party like Reform gaining power and all that would bring. The press and wider media including social media are also to blame for pandering to extreme views and opinions rather than aiming for balance, both because it makes more money and because its owners are happy for its outlets to be mouthpieces for special interests to push their agendas. People like Yggdrasil and Buffelskloof didn't come by their hatred and paranoia all by themselves. Yes that’s right the reason Labour is tanking in the polls is because of the media. The usual total lack of self awareness from arrogant myopic Leftists. Instead of asking why it is that the electorate hates Labour, let’s just blame the media and the electorate. Guaranteed that the one group of people who are absolutely not responsible at all for Labour’s failures is Labour and its shills. Try looking in the mirror. The answer to all your questions is there. You seem to have missed the word "also" in my post. It’s bank holiday “pal”. The sun’s out. Get out of your bubble and go and speak to your neighbours about their concerns. Maybe head down to Greggs for some sushi and a soy latte. Perhaps you’ll learn something rather than spending your life hectoring everyone with your prejudices on a swingers website. You can always put some unguent on your lip to mask the stench of the peasantry. " Didn't you just tell me to look in the mirror? | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025. That’s bollocks, it’s got fuck all to do with ‘racism.’ People are fed up with immigrants getting a free ride in this country, ordinary everyday people have taken to the streets. The so called ‘counter protesters’ are anti British, anti white fucking scum. Genuinely unbelievable that someone actually thinks like this.
The absolute state of this country nowadays. No wonder the UK is spinning faster down the metaphorical far-right toilet.
The UK has a Labour government, headed by a pathetic so called ‘human rights’ lawyer. Decades of LibLabCon have made it the mess that it is, and the only way to stop the rot is to elect a Reform UK government at the next election.
It is not people like me who made this mess, we have never had a voice as yet. It is the likes of you, but you have had your way for far too long. Our time is coming fast, and we will undo the shit that you have done to our country, for good…
So we're getting even more ignorance about foreigners. Even more hate towards minority groups. Even more neoliberalism. Even more bigotry, division and hate to distract everyone.
I'll be honest, doesn't sound great.
Side note. I am not in government. Not a member of any of those political parties. Although I am flattered that you think I have that much power over the country. Thank you.
Don’t thank me, I’m neither offering or intending to offer you any kind of compliment. I never said that you personally are a member of any LibLabCon party, just that people like you are. Also people like you are members of the pathetic ‘counter protests.’
Illegal immigrants have been tolerated here for far too long. They should be put directly into detention centres, until they had been charged of entering our country illegally, and then sent back to where they came from. Or, if that is not possible, to any other country willing to take them, which will not be anywhere in Europe. Nobody wants them, what a surprise!!" | |||
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The absolute state of this country nowadays. No wonder the UK is spinning faster down the metaphorical far-right toilet.
I have thought that many many times at first it was amusing.
but now it is dam right scary, Reform will never achieve anything because basically Reform are a racist full of misinformed people, one of their members a young member was deputy leader in Northampton I think.
He has been removed from his position after it emerged he had fake accounts which were racist and anti jewish.
That sums up Reform."Don't forget anti-science to boot. The party thrives on pumping misinformation through their media arm GBNews. Quite why anyone would think voting Reform is patriotic is as baffling as it is ridiculous. | |||
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" But who gets to decide what is responsible? To me the term 'absolutist' means unrestricted free speech by anybody. You can't have it both ways eh? Or maybe it's possible for us to believe that the news media could do a much better job, while also not wanting to gag it. You should at least have a crack at not immediately going to the worst and most hypocritical interpretation of what people say. The hypocrisy here is by those who promote things like free speech when it suits them, but deny the same to others they disagree with. Again, I encourage you to have a look back over what is being said and have a good think about whether anyone is proposing to deny anyone else their freedom of speech." No need. You know perfectly well what I am getting at. The press are being pilloried for stirring up prejudice, hatred, racism etc., yet in another breath you advocate unrestricted free speech. These views are incompatible. | |||
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" But who gets to decide what is responsible? To me the term 'absolutist' means unrestricted free speech by anybody. You can't have it both ways eh? Or maybe it's possible for us to believe that the news media could do a much better job, while also not wanting to gag it. You should at least have a crack at not immediately going to the worst and most hypocritical interpretation of what people say. The hypocrisy here is by those who promote things like free speech when it suits them, but deny the same to others they disagree with. Again, I encourage you to have a look back over what is being said and have a good think about whether anyone is proposing to deny anyone else their freedom of speech. No need. You know perfectly well what I am getting at. The press are being pilloried for stirring up prejudice, hatred, racism etc., yet in another breath you advocate unrestricted free speech. These views are incompatible." No, they aren't, and I have no idea what you're getting at. What I think you're saying is "the press is complicit and needs to do better" is the same thing as "we need to gag the press". But I'm hoping I'm wrong. | |||
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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭" There is a lot of hate in the country, primarily stoked by people on the far right of politics. I'm somewhat surprised at how successful they have been in recruiting people to their cause. We can only hope that in the near future, people in the centre of politics become the loudest voice. The hate and division needs to stop. | |||
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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭 There is a lot of hate in the country, primarily stoked by people on the far right of politics. I'm somewhat surprised at how successful they have been in recruiting people to their cause. We can only hope that in the near future, people in the centre of politics become the loudest voice. The hate and division needs to stop. " It's successful because A. It offers simple solutions to complex problems (IE blame those people in that boat or in that hotel) B. A lot of time money and effort has gone into the spread of misinformation around immigration, climate change, the EU, etc. | |||
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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭 There is a lot of hate in the country, primarily stoked by people on the far right of politics. I'm somewhat surprised at how successful they have been in recruiting people to their cause. We can only hope that in the near future, people in the centre of politics become the loudest voice. The hate and division needs to stop. It's successful because A. It offers simple solutions to complex problems (IE blame those people in that boat or in that hotel) B. A lot of time money and effort has gone into the spread of misinformation around immigration, climate change, the EU, etc. " Your point B could be seen as proving point A. | |||
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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭 There is a lot of hate in the country, primarily stoked by people on the far right of politics. I'm somewhat surprised at how successful they have been in recruiting people to their cause. We can only hope that in the near future, people in the centre of politics become the loudest voice. The hate and division needs to stop. It's successful because A. It offers simple solutions to complex problems (IE blame those people in that boat or in that hotel) B. A lot of time money and effort has gone into the spread of misinformation around immigration, climate change, the EU, etc. Your point B could be seen as proving point A." There's definitely a correlation. | |||
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"Maybe people, not necessarily on the left of the political spectrum, care enough about this country to not want a reform party in power. Mind you, anyone who doesn't hold your stance, by default, will be on the left. As recent General Elections have shown, the UK has a remarkably fluid electorate, neither ideologically left nor right. The vast majority of people care about their country, it's culture and laws. The problem is that politicians are not listening to the silent majority and consequently there is a growing undercurrent of disaffection. It's a recipe for a party like Reform gaining power and all that would bring. The press and wider media including social media are also to blame for pandering to extreme views and opinions rather than aiming for balance, both because it makes more money and because its owners are happy for its outlets to be mouthpieces for special interests to push their agendas. People like Yggdrasil and Buffelskloof didn't come by their hatred and paranoia all by themselves. Yes that’s right the reason Labour is tanking in the polls is because of the media. The usual total lack of self awareness from arrogant myopic Leftists. Instead of asking why it is that the electorate hates Labour, let’s just blame the media and the electorate. Guaranteed that the one group of people who are absolutely not responsible at all for Labour’s failures is Labour and its shills. Try looking in the mirror. The answer to all your questions is there. You seem to have missed the word "also" in my post. It’s bank holiday “pal”. The sun’s out. Get out of your bubble and go and speak to your neighbours about their concerns. Maybe head down to Greggs for some sushi and a soy latte. Perhaps you’ll learn something rather than spending your life hectoring everyone with your prejudices on a swingers website. You can always put some unguent on your lip to mask the stench of the peasantry. Didn't you just tell me to look in the mirror?" “The peasants are all thick racists”! “Why do the thick racist peasants hate us”? “It’s the media”! | |||
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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭 There is a lot of hate in the country, primarily stoked by people on the far right of politics. I'm somewhat surprised at how successful they have been in recruiting people to their cause. We can only hope that in the near future, people in the centre of politics become the loudest voice. The hate and division needs to stop. It's successful because A. It offers simple solutions to complex problems (IE blame those people in that boat or in that hotel) B. A lot of time money and effort has gone into the spread of misinformation around immigration, climate change, the EU, etc. Your point B could be seen as proving point A. There's definitely a correlation." The message has never changed from the far right. The language is exactly the same as I used in the eighties. Back then society pushed back and rejected us. Now, it seems that an ever increasing amount of people embrace the messaging. The difference now is promotion. Certain media outlets and social media have drip fed far right messaging in to peoples minds. Even in conversation, people just recite what they've read. Sometimes I feel like I'm in a far right meeting when I'm in a cafe trying to enjoy a coffee. | |||
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"There seems to be a lot of hatred in society and even on here of late, people hating other countries or our own, this politician that leader hatred in the media whipping up a frenzy of further hatred. Makes me want to 😭😭😭 There is a lot of hate in the country, primarily stoked by people on the far right of politics. I'm somewhat surprised at how successful they have been in recruiting people to their cause. We can only hope that in the near future, people in the centre of politics become the loudest voice. The hate and division needs to stop. It's successful because A. It offers simple solutions to complex problems (IE blame those people in that boat or in that hotel) B. A lot of time money and effort has gone into the spread of misinformation around immigration, climate change, the EU, etc. Your point B could be seen as proving point A. There's definitely a correlation. The message has never changed from the far right. The language is exactly the same as I used in the eighties. Back then society pushed back and rejected us. Now, it seems that an ever increasing amount of people embrace the messaging. The difference now is promotion. Certain media outlets and social media have drip fed far right messaging in to peoples minds. Even in conversation, people just recite what they've read. Sometimes I feel like I'm in a far right meeting when I'm in a cafe trying to enjoy a coffee." Maybe you are just out of touch. Have you considered leaving the country? | |||
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"How did the left wing become immune to media influence, is it in their DNA? They all know they are immune, and are happy to tell everyone, reminds of, how do you know their is a vegan in the room..." The left blame billionaires for societies problems which include those ridiculous rags not brown poor brown people. The problem society has is inequality not the diversity of it's people. | |||
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"How did the left wing become immune to media influence, is it in their DNA? They all know they are immune, and are happy to tell everyone, reminds of, how do you know their is a vegan in the room... The left blame billionaires for societies problems which include those ridiculous rags not brown poor brown people. The problem society has is inequality not the diversity of it's people. How is it the billionaires that are causing the problems people are complaining about?" They have extracted wealth from the poor and the government. The government now has to go after the middle class to try and claw money back whilst the billionaires are untouched. I recommend Gary's economics for you to understand what has and is happening to the west and it's form of capitalism | |||
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"How did the left wing become immune to media influence, is it in their DNA? They all know they are immune, and are happy to tell everyone, reminds of, how do you know their is a vegan in the room..." They're not immune. And not everyone on the right is brainwashed. What counts as left and right on fab bears no relation to real life left and right. People on here who believe all kinds of bullshit about immigrants, climate science, Brexit etc. are "fab right". | |||
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"How did the left wing become immune to media influence, is it in their DNA? They all know they are immune, and are happy to tell everyone, reminds of, how do you know their is a vegan in the room... They're not immune. And not everyone on the right is brainwashed. What counts as left and right on fab bears no relation to real life left and right. People on here who believe all kinds of bullshit about immigrants, climate science, Brexit etc. are "fab right"." Wtf did I just read? So the right wing people on here aren't reall? | |||
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"How did the left wing become immune to media influence, is it in their DNA? They all know they are immune, and are happy to tell everyone, reminds of, how do you know their is a vegan in the room... They're not immune. And not everyone on the right is brainwashed. What counts as left and right on fab bears no relation to real life left and right. People on here who believe all kinds of bullshit about immigrants, climate science, Brexit etc. are "fab right". Wtf did I just read? So the right wing people on here aren't reall?" You did not read that correctly. What counts as right wing or left wing on fab. Isn't what right wing or left wing means in real life. IE, you get labeled an extremist loony left for not being racist, for understanding climate change, or for understanding what the EU is. | |||
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"How did the left wing become immune to media influence, is it in their DNA? They all know they are immune, and are happy to tell everyone, reminds of, how do you know their is a vegan in the room... They're not immune. And not everyone on the right is brainwashed. What counts as left and right on fab bears no relation to real life left and right. People on here who believe all kinds of bullshit about immigrants, climate science, Brexit etc. are "fab right". Wtf did I just read? So the right wing people on here aren't reall? You did not read that correctly. What counts as right wing or left wing on fab. Isn't what right wing or left wing means in real life. IE, you get labeled an extremist loony left for not being racist, for understanding climate change, or for understanding what the EU is. " But that's just labels. They can call you wtf they want, it's part of they're defense mechanism. So long as you know who you are who gives a fuck what an avatar on line calls you? | |||
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"How did the left wing become immune to media influence, is it in their DNA? They all know they are immune, and are happy to tell everyone, reminds of, how do you know their is a vegan in the room... They're not immune. And not everyone on the right is brainwashed. What counts as left and right on fab bears no relation to real life left and right. People on here who believe all kinds of bullshit about immigrants, climate science, Brexit etc. are "fab right". Wtf did I just read? So the right wing people on here aren't reall? You did not read that correctly. What counts as right wing or left wing on fab. Isn't what right wing or left wing means in real life. IE, you get labeled an extremist loony left for not being racist, for understanding climate change, or for understanding what the EU is. But that's just labels. They can call you wtf they want, it's part of they're defense mechanism. So long as you know who you are who gives a fuck what an avatar on line calls you?" True. But those labels are different in real life to on here. | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025. That’s bollocks, it’s got fuck all to do with ‘racism.’ People are fed up with immigrants getting a free ride in this country, ordinary everyday people have taken to the streets. The so called ‘counter protesters’ are anti British, anti white fucking scum. Genuinely unbelievable that someone actually thinks like this.
The absolute state of this country nowadays. No wonder the UK is spinning faster down the metaphorical far-right toilet.
I have thought that many many times at first it was amusing.
but now it is dam right scary, Reform will never achieve anything because basically Reform are a racist full of misinformed people, one of their members a young member was deputy leader in Northampton I think.
He has been removed from his position after it emerged he had fake accounts which were racist and anti jewish.
That sums up Reform.
Don't forget anti-science to boot.
The party thrives on pumping misinformation through their media arm GBNews.
Quite why anyone would think voting Reform is patriotic is as baffling as it is ridiculous."The rich I believe have a say in this, and they do certain things to curtail us from what they are at the moment trying to achieve. They misdirect those who live in certain areas and are at a certain level economically and educationally in their lives. That economic level now is at a level were the middle class are now feeling the effect. So to misdirect us from truth, they point blame elsewhere, especially small boats, if you look at the issue closely it seems to me they have been invited. We are being squeezed more and more, and when the middle class are gone, well we are all fu*ked and working for the rich, a different version of 1984. So I would suggest we get together before it is to late. Some will never see this and have no idea they are being taken for a ride and taking us along with them to boot. | |||
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"Exactly this, the billionaires are extracting wealth from the middle classes now because the government and the poor are skint!! Tax wealth not work!!" How are they extracting the wealth and who are these billionaires? | |||
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"Exactly this, the billionaires are extracting wealth from the middle classes now because the government and the poor are skint!! Tax wealth not work!! How are they extracting the wealth and who are these billionaires? " Are you Jeff Bezos? How can you not see that Thatcherism has failed!! We need a new and radical system to stop the wealthy becoming wealthier and the poor becoming poorer!! Capitalism has an interesting build bias towards the already haves, we have now reached a point where the have nots can not go on!! Instead of blaming black and brown workers we need to tax the richest accordingly! | |||
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"How did the left wing become immune to media influence, is it in their DNA? They all know they are immune, and are happy to tell everyone, reminds of, how do you know their is a vegan in the room... The left blame billionaires for societies problems which include those ridiculous rags not brown poor brown people. The problem society has is inequality not the diversity of it's people. How is it the billionaires that are causing the problems people are complaining about? They have extracted wealth from the poor and the government. The government now has to go after the middle class to try and claw money back whilst the billionaires are untouched. I recommend Gary's economics for you to understand what has and is happening to the west and it's form of capitalism Oh no, Gary Stevenson the social media influencer. He’s peddling the same lines up and down the country to sell his book. It’s an easy story to swallow blame billionaires, blame capitalism, and leave out how to grapple with the real complexity of demographics, productivity, debt, and government choices, especially through Covid. I will give him credit though he’s clever enough to pick the perfect hate figure, "billionaires" and it is being parroted everywhere now. " I was told 30 years to get into property so I did. Now in this time I see I am not in the "safe category" anymore and that they are coming for me. So the only thing I can do is to now is to buy more assets like property and rent those accommodations back to the public usually HMOs as they bring in the cash. This is how I know Mr Stevens has a point because I was advised to do it 30 years ago, and he is outing people like me. 30 years ago the narrative was "those blacks and asians their taking our housing, using our NHS, Taking our welfare" the usual stuff being said now nothing changed except those people are even poorer now than before, have poorer services, rights being eroded. And small boats is the issue one can only laugh or be worried. | |||
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"Exactly this, the billionaires are extracting wealth from the middle classes now because the government and the poor are skint!! Tax wealth not work!! How are they extracting the wealth and who are these billionaires? Are you Jeff Bezos? How can you not see that Thatcherism has failed!! We need a new and radical system to stop the wealthy becoming wealthier and the poor becoming poorer!! Capitalism has an interesting build bias towards the already haves, we have now reached a point where the have nots can not go on!! Instead of blaming black and brown workers we need to tax the richest accordingly!" You haven't answered the question I asked on your core beliefs. Blaming Thatcher doesn't = billionaires. I'm going to enjoy the rest of the day, have a good one. | |||
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"Exactly this, the billionaires are extracting wealth from the middle classes now because the government and the poor are skint!! Tax wealth not work!! How are they extracting the wealth and who are these billionaires? Are you Jeff Bezos? How can you not see that Thatcherism has failed!! We need a new and radical system to stop the wealthy becoming wealthier and the poor becoming poorer!! Capitalism has an interesting build bias towards the already haves, we have now reached a point where the have nots can not go on!! Instead of blaming black and brown workers we need to tax the richest accordingly! You haven't answered the question I asked on your core beliefs. Blaming Thatcher doesn't = billionaires. I'm going to enjoy the rest of the day, have a good one. " I answered, Jeff Bezos and his ilk! I then went on to question your creed of trickle down economy = failed Thomas Picketty is the future | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025. That’s bollocks, it’s got fuck all to do with ‘racism.’ People are fed up with immigrants getting a free ride in this country, ordinary everyday people have taken to the streets. The so called ‘counter protesters’ are anti British, anti white fucking scum. Genuinely unbelievable that someone actually thinks like this.
The absolute state of this country nowadays. No wonder the UK is spinning faster down the metaphorical far-right toilet.
I have thought that many many times at first it was amusing.
but now it is dam right scary, Reform will never achieve anything because basically Reform are a racist full of misinformed people, one of their members a young member was deputy leader in Northampton I think.
He has been removed from his position after it emerged he had fake accounts which were racist and anti jewish.
That sums up Reform.
Don't forget anti-science to boot.
The party thrives on pumping misinformation through their media arm GBNews.
Quite why anyone would think voting Reform is patriotic is as baffling as it is ridiculous.
The rich I believe have a say in this, and they do certain things to curtail us from what they are at the moment trying to achieve.
They misdirect those who live in certain areas and are at a certain level economically and educationally in their lives.
That economic level now is at a level were the middle class are now feeling the effect.
So to misdirect us from truth, they point blame elsewhere, especially small boats, if you look at the issue closely it seems to me they have been invited.
We are being squeezed more and more, and when the middle class are gone, well we are all fu*ked and working for the rich, a different version of 1984.
So I would suggest we get together before it is to late.
Some will never see this and have no idea they are being taken for a ride and taking us along with them to boot."It's all neoliberalism. And that's exactly what Reform are all about. We should get together. In my opinion, a better education system that focuses on how to disseminate and analyse information that's presented to us is key. But that would make the population harder to control. So I don't know if it would ever happen. Feels like we're sliding backwards, as more and more people who are angry and confused are herded into voting for Reform. As they were Brexit. | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025. That’s bollocks, it’s got fuck all to do with ‘racism.’ People are fed up with immigrants getting a free ride in this country, ordinary everyday people have taken to the streets. The so called ‘counter protesters’ are anti British, anti white fucking scum. Genuinely unbelievable that someone actually thinks like this.
The absolute state of this country nowadays. No wonder the UK is spinning faster down the metaphorical far-right toilet.
I have thought that many many times at first it was amusing.
but now it is dam right scary, Reform will never achieve anything because basically Reform are a racist full of misinformed people, one of their members a young member was deputy leader in Northampton I think.
He has been removed from his position after it emerged he had fake accounts which were racist and anti jewish.
That sums up Reform.
Don't forget anti-science to boot.
The party thrives on pumping misinformation through their media arm GBNews.
Quite why anyone would think voting Reform is patriotic is as baffling as it is ridiculous.
The rich I believe have a say in this, and they do certain things to curtail us from what they are at the moment trying to achieve.
They misdirect those who live in certain areas and are at a certain level economically and educationally in their lives.
That economic level now is at a level were the middle class are now feeling the effect.
So to misdirect us from truth, they point blame elsewhere, especially small boats, if you look at the issue closely it seems to me they have been invited.
We are being squeezed more and more, and when the middle class are gone, well we are all fu*ked and working for the rich, a different version of 1984.
So I would suggest we get together before it is to late.
Some will never see this and have no idea they are being taken for a ride and taking us along with them to boot.
It's all neoliberalism. And that's exactly what Reform are all about.
We should get together. In my opinion, a better education system that focuses on how to disseminate and analyse information that's presented to us is key. But that would make the population harder to control. So I don't know if it would ever happen.
Feels like we're sliding backwards, as more and more people who are angry and confused are herded into voting for Reform. As they were Brexit."Scary isn't it, Farge has done it before with Brexit. not good at all. | |||
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"I know that some on here will deny this, but many leftists absolutely do hate this country......... The ‘counter demonstrations’ against the peaceful demonstrations outside migrant hotels is proof of that. That people consider non-racists demonstrating is proof that leftist hate the country, is a sad fucking state of affairs. Welcome to 2025. That’s bollocks, it’s got fuck all to do with ‘racism.’ People are fed up with immigrants getting a free ride in this country, ordinary everyday people have taken to the streets. The so called ‘counter protesters’ are anti British, anti white fucking scum. Genuinely unbelievable that someone actually thinks like this.
The absolute state of this country nowadays. No wonder the UK is spinning faster down the metaphorical far-right toilet.
I have thought that many many times at first it was amusing.
but now it is dam right scary, Reform will never achieve anything because basically Reform are a racist full of misinformed people, one of their members a young member was deputy leader in Northampton I think.
He has been removed from his position after it emerged he had fake accounts which were racist and anti jewish.
That sums up Reform.
Don't forget anti-science to boot.
The party thrives on pumping misinformation through their media arm GBNews.
Quite why anyone would think voting Reform is patriotic is as baffling as it is ridiculous.
The rich I believe have a say in this, and they do certain things to curtail us from what they are at the moment trying to achieve.
They misdirect those who live in certain areas and are at a certain level economically and educationally in their lives.
That economic level now is at a level were the middle class are now feeling the effect.
So to misdirect us from truth, they point blame elsewhere, especially small boats, if you look at the issue closely it seems to me they have been invited.
We are being squeezed more and more, and when the middle class are gone, well we are all fu*ked and working for the rich, a different version of 1984.
So I would suggest we get together before it is to late.
Some will never see this and have no idea they are being taken for a ride and taking us along with them to boot.
It's all neoliberalism. And that's exactly what Reform are all about.
We should get together. In my opinion, a better education system that focuses on how to disseminate and analyse information that's presented to us is key. But that would make the population harder to control. So I don't know if it would ever happen.
Feels like we're sliding backwards, as more and more people who are angry and confused are herded into voting for Reform. As they were Brexit.
Scary isn't it, Farge has done it before with Brexit.
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"Nigel Farage is the best thing that has happened to this country since Maggie Thatcher. In my opinion he is even better, as the demographics in the UK have changed so much, that the patriotic vote has been diluted, so much so that that anyone from the right of Wedge Ben are considered far right, or, God forbid, racist. It’s time to take it all back. This is our country. We don’t want Mosques everywhere, we don’t want sharia law. We want to continue, nationally, as we were originally meant to do." Have you stopped to consider that many of your fellow countrymen don't have anything in common with you or reform voters. You've described non-racists as "scum". And you seem to hate some British people as much as you do foreigners. Although I have good news for you. We don't have mosques everywhere, and we don't have Sharia law. Side note, what's your beef with mosques? | |||
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"Nigel Farage is the best thing that has happened to this country since Maggie Thatcher. In my opinion he is even better, as the demographics in the UK have changed so much, that the patriotic vote has been diluted, so much so that that anyone from the right of Wedge Ben are considered far right, or, God forbid, racist. It’s time to take it all back. This is our country. We don’t want Mosques everywhere, we don’t want sharia law. We want to continue, nationally, as we were originally meant to do." I am genuinely interested in your answer to my question. What *all* are we taking back and how were we originally meant to continue nationally? | |||
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" Side note, what's your beef with mosques?" Halal. | |||
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"Nigel Farage is the best thing that has happened to this country since Maggie Thatcher. In my opinion he is even better, as the demographics in the UK have changed so much, that the patriotic vote has been diluted, so much so that that anyone from the right of Wedge Ben are considered far right, or, God forbid, racist. It’s time to take it all back. This is our country. We don’t want Mosques everywhere, we don’t want sharia law. We want to continue, nationally, as we were originally meant to do. I am genuinely interested in your answer to my question. What *all* are we taking back and how were we originally meant to continue nationally? " The ‘all’ to which I referred is our nation, in its entirety. We have given away so much, so much of our land, and so much of our sovereignty. We have allowed so many of our own traditions to be diluted, and it now seems like many of our forefathers died fighting wars for sweet FA. | |||
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"Nigel Farage is the best thing that has happened to this country since Maggie Thatcher. In my opinion he is even better, as the demographics in the UK have changed so much, that the patriotic vote has been diluted, so much so that that anyone from the right of Wedge Ben are considered far right, or, God forbid, racist. It’s time to take it all back. This is our country. We don’t want Mosques everywhere, we don’t want sharia law. We want to continue, nationally, as we were originally meant to do. I am genuinely interested in your answer to my question. What *all* are we taking back and how were we originally meant to continue nationally? The ‘all’ to which I referred is our nation, in its entirety. We have given away so much, so much of our land, and so much of our sovereignty. We have allowed so many of our own traditions to be diluted, and it now seems like many of our forefathers died fighting wars for sweet FA." Our forefather fought AGAINST fascism. Lest we forget. | |||
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"Nigel Farage is the best thing that has happened to this country since Maggie Thatcher. In my opinion he is even better, as the demographics in the UK have changed so much, that the patriotic vote has been diluted, so much so that that anyone from the right of Wedge Ben are considered far right, or, God forbid, racist. It’s time to take it all back. This is our country. We don’t want Mosques everywhere, we don’t want sharia law. We want to continue, nationally, as we were originally meant to do." When? Seriously, never mind the gammon Mad-Libs, that last bit of your post is the most interesting thing I've seen you say. What do you mean by "continue, nationally, as we were originally meant to do"? I'm completely intrigued. | |||
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" The ‘all’ to which I referred is our nation, in its entirety. We have given away so much, so much of our land, and so much of our sovereignty. We have allowed so many of our own traditions to be diluted, and it now seems like many of our forefathers died fighting wars for sweet FA." Also interested in this one. Where was the land you owned that you've given up? How much of it was there? In terms of sovereignty and traditions, what was it you used to be able to do that you can't do now? And as another poster has pointed out, would you not agree that, in the last century at least, our "forefathers" died fighting wars against the kind of xenophobia you're exhibiting now? | |||
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"Nigel Farage is the best thing that has happened to this country since Maggie Thatcher. In my opinion he is even better, as the demographics in the UK have changed so much, that the patriotic vote has been diluted, so much so that that anyone from the right of Wedge Ben are considered far right, or, God forbid, racist. It’s time to take it all back. This is our country. We don’t want Mosques everywhere, we don’t want sharia law. We want to continue, nationally, as we were originally meant to do. I am genuinely interested in your answer to my question. What *all* are we taking back and how were we originally meant to continue nationally? The ‘all’ to which I referred is our nation, in its entirety. We have given away so much, so much of our land, and so much of our sovereignty. We have allowed so many of our own traditions to be diluted, and it now seems like many of our forefathers died fighting wars for sweet FA." Again theirs a bloke who sounds like you, we need to keep our country white from an X invader who is taking our land and jobs and housing. | |||
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"Nigel Farage is the best thing that has happened to this country since Maggie Thatcher. In my opinion he is even better, as the demographics in the UK have changed so much, that the patriotic vote has been diluted, so much so that that anyone from the right of Wedge Ben are considered far right, or, God forbid, racist. It’s time to take it all back. This is our country. We don’t want Mosques everywhere, we don’t want sharia law. We want to continue, nationally, as we were originally meant to do." Originally meant to what? Get over it cry a baby!! People have different colour skin and pray to various gods. It's truly beautiful!!! | |||
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"Nigel Farage is the best thing that has happened to this country since Maggie Thatcher. In my opinion he is even better, as the demographics in the UK have changed so much, that the patriotic vote has been diluted, so much so that that anyone from the right of Wedge Ben are considered far right, or, God forbid, racist. It’s time to take it all back. This is our country. We don’t want Mosques everywhere, we don’t want sharia law. We want to continue, nationally, as we were originally meant to do. I am genuinely interested in your answer to my question. What *all* are we taking back and how were we originally meant to continue nationally? The ‘all’ to which I referred is our nation, in its entirety. We have given away so much, so much of our land, and so much of our sovereignty. We have allowed so many of our own traditions to be diluted, and it now seems like many of our forefathers died fighting wars for sweet FA." Our forefather's fought against people like you. With hate in their heart | |||
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"Nigel Farage is the best thing that has happened to this country since Maggie Thatcher. In my opinion he is even better, as the demographics in the UK have changed so much, that the patriotic vote has been diluted, so much so that that anyone from the right of Wedge Ben are considered far right, or, God forbid, racist. It’s time to take it all back. This is our country. We don’t want Mosques everywhere, we don’t want sharia law. We want to continue, nationally, as we were originally meant to do. I am genuinely interested in your answer to my question. What *all* are we taking back and how were we originally meant to continue nationally? The ‘all’ to which I referred is our nation, in its entirety. We have given away so much, so much of our land, and so much of our sovereignty. We have allowed so many of our own traditions to be diluted, and it now seems like many of our forefathers died fighting wars for sweet FA." What land have we given away and what traditions have been diluted? Again I am genuinely interested to know. | |||
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"It's not hatred it's ANGER and Frustration and the people of this country don't like been taken the piss out of quite frankly!" How are we being taken the piss out of? | |||
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" What land have we given away and what traditions have been diluted? Again I am genuinely interested to know. " India, Rhodesia, the list goes on... Perhaps we should reunify with those lands and merge our nations? | |||
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"It's not hatred it's ANGER and Frustration and the people of this country don't like been taken the piss out of quite frankly!" By the rise of the far right, ignorance, hate, bigotry, misinformation and confusion? | |||
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"The division is caused by the media, traditional and social. It drives engagement and associated ad revenue. The government can’t win as they are trying to please all the people and as a result pleasing no one. I’ve said it time and again that the middle ground and empathy for an oppositions view is a lost art, it’s seen as a weakness to one’s own cause and a betrayal of “your side”. Opposing views are instantly met with name calling and claims of extreme position, racist vs commie etc etc. as a result groups at the extremes of political fringes (Farage / Corbyn) use the chance to appeal to their “side” in the hope of gaining some speck of power. " The government does win. They get into power by getting the most corporate donations they can. Then represent the interests of those who donate the most. As we've seen the differences between the last two governments are minimal. Labour are Tory-lite. It's a false equivalence there between Corbyn and Farage. One wants to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, uses division, bigotry and hate to keep people distracted and fighting among themselves. The other wanted better working conditions, free broadband, and makes his own jam. | |||
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" The government does win. They get into power by getting the most corporate donations they can. Then represent the interests of those who donate the most. As we've seen the differences between the last two governments are minimal. Labour are Tory-lite. It's a false equivalence there between Corbyn and Farage. One wants to represent the interests of the fossil fuels industry, uses division, bigotry and hate to keep people distracted and fighting among themselves. The other wanted better working conditions, free broadband, and makes his own jam." You misrepresent my points, I didn’t say that farage and Corbyn were equivalent I said they were the extremes of the political fringes. And my point about the governments in powers was not about them gaining power or not, more about them trying to please both their traditional al base and the rest of the country, but consistently failing to please either. Leading to them getting classed as both overly socialist by the right groups and Tory lite by the left groups. | |||
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"The division is caused by the media, traditional and social. It drives engagement and associated ad revenue. The government can’t win as they are trying to please all the people and as a result pleasing no one. I’ve said it time and again that the middle ground and empathy for an oppositions view is a lost art, it’s seen as a weakness to one’s own cause and a betrayal of “your side”. Opposing views are instantly met with name calling and claims of extreme position, racist vs commie etc etc. as a result groups at the extremes of political fringes (Farage / Corbyn) use the chance to appeal to their “side” in the hope of gaining some speck of power. " Blaming the media is a cop-out. There is simmering discontent in the nation which has roots in harsh realities and injustice. Dismissing concerns as extremism will see Nigel Farage in No.10. | |||
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"The division is caused by the media, traditional and social. It drives engagement and associated ad revenue. The government can’t win as they are trying to please all the people and as a result pleasing no one. I’ve said it time and again that the middle ground and empathy for an oppositions view is a lost art, it’s seen as a weakness to one’s own cause and a betrayal of “your side”. Opposing views are instantly met with name calling and claims of extreme position, racist vs commie etc etc. as a result groups at the extremes of political fringes (Farage / Corbyn) use the chance to appeal to their “side” in the hope of gaining some speck of power. Blaming the media is a cop-out. There is simmering discontent in the nation which has roots in harsh realities and injustice. Dismissing concerns as extremism will see Nigel Farage in No.10." My point was not about discontent etc but the hatred that has come from the tribalism which has come from social media / trad media. They have meant that discussions over people’s experiences or worries are instantly dismissed as extremism of some nature. Eg the current migrant issues, anyone showing support is instantly labeled a racist. The was of media encourage this name calling and the art of nuance, civilised discussion and a move towards compromise is a distant memory. | |||
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