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"They haven’t broken the law as such, but since the us is much more pro Israel at the moment than Europe is, I am not surprised they revoked the visa at all Actually.. the us are trying to deport many pro Palestinian voices even though those are not advocating any violence, whether that be revoking student visas or trying to revoke citizenship " Is it not a bit early to say that yet, the police haven't concluded their investigation..? Have to admit I'm not au fair with the actual wording of the act.. | |||
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"They haven’t broken the law as such, but since the us is much more pro Israel at the moment than Europe is, I am not surprised they revoked the visa at all Actually.. the us are trying to deport many pro Palestinian voices even though those are not advocating any violence, whether that be revoking student visas or trying to revoke citizenship " I’m not a lawyer but there is surely a case to answer as their comments could be classed as intending to insight racial hatred? If someone called for “death to black people” or “death to the IRA” or “death to illegal migrants” then it’s illegal. Who the subject of the threat is shouldn’t make a difference. | |||
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"They haven’t broken the law as such, but since the us is much more pro Israel at the moment than Europe is, I am not surprised they revoked the visa at all Actually.. the us are trying to deport many pro Palestinian voices even though those are not advocating any violence, whether that be revoking student visas or trying to revoke citizenship I’m not a lawyer but there is surely a case to answer as their comments could be classed as intending to insight racial hatred? If someone called for “death to black people” or “death to the IRA” or “death to illegal migrants” then it’s illegal. Who the subject of the threat is shouldn’t make a difference. " You touch on a topic that I wanted to start a thread on…. Is there anyway you can criticise the Israeli government or the IDF without the words antisemitic or antisemitism being thrown around That’s why whenever I talk about either the IDF or the government, I never use the word “Jewish” in it | |||
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"They haven’t broken the law as such, but since the us is much more pro Israel at the moment than Europe is, I am not surprised they revoked the visa at all Actually.. the us are trying to deport many pro Palestinian voices even though those are not advocating any violence, whether that be revoking student visas or trying to revoke citizenship I’m not a lawyer but there is surely a case to answer as their comments could be classed as intending to insight racial hatred? If someone called for “death to black people” or “death to the IRA” or “death to illegal migrants” then it’s illegal. Who the subject of the threat is shouldn’t make a difference. " Had they said death to Israelis then possibly but they were directing their 'opinion' towards the military.. They know as most people do that not all Israeli's support the current way the war has gone.. | |||
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"They haven’t broken the law as such, but since the us is much more pro Israel at the moment than Europe is, I am not surprised they revoked the visa at all Actually.. the us are trying to deport many pro Palestinian voices even though those are not advocating any violence, whether that be revoking student visas or trying to revoke citizenship I’m not a lawyer but there is surely a case to answer as their comments could be classed as intending to insight racial hatred? If someone called for “death to black people” or “death to the IRA” or “death to illegal migrants” then it’s illegal. Who the subject of the threat is shouldn’t make a difference. You touch on a topic that I wanted to start a thread on…. Is there anyway you can criticise the Israeli government or the IDF without the words antisemitic or antisemitism being thrown around That’s why whenever I talk about either the IDF or the government, I never use the word “Jewish” in it" Start the thread and I’ll be happy comment | |||
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"I’m not a lawyer but there is surely a case to answer as their comments could be classed as intending to insight racial hatred? If someone called for “death to black people” or “death to the IRA” or “death to illegal migrants” then it’s illegal. Who the subject of the threat is shouldn’t make a difference. " I condemn the chant, we don't need any more people promoting violence. I do wonder how much of the reaction is partisan though. If the chant was say "death to the Russian army" would the media response have been the same? | |||
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"I’m not a lawyer but there is surely a case to answer as their comments could be classed as intending to insight racial hatred? If someone called for “death to black people” or “death to the IRA” or “death to illegal migrants” then it’s illegal. Who the subject of the threat is shouldn’t make a difference. I condemn the chant, we don't need any more people promoting violence. I do wonder how much of the reaction is partisan though. If the chant was say "death to the Russian army" would the media response have been the same? " I see your point. Can only speak for myself of course, but I think leading a chant calling for the death of any group of people says a lot about the individual leading the chant. And even more about the sheep who join in, regardless of the group, including the Russian army. | |||
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" I condemn the chant, we don't need any more people promoting violence. " Our taxes have been used to promote the violence. 518 RAF sortees run for the IDF | |||
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"If they're found to have broken the law then they have gone too far and they are responsible.." It is Netanyahu and Hamas accused of war crimes not kneecap, they haven’t killed anyone. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? " Israeli Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu said that one of Israel's options in the war against Hamas could be to drop a nuclear bomb on the Gaza Strip. (Times of Israel 5.11.2023). He got suspended for that, but not prosecuted under terrorism charges. The singers comments irresponsible, he should be suspended from Glastonbury ? | |||
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"If they're found to have broken the law then they have gone too far and they are responsible.. It is Netanyahu and Hamas accused of war crimes not kneecap, they haven’t killed anyone. " Yes I know that and that's clearly evident given how the threads has gone and what you picked out to make an invalid point.. | |||
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"I see your point. Can only speak for myself of course, but I think leading a chant calling for the death of any group of people says a lot about the individual leading the chant. And even more about the sheep who join in, regardless of the group, including the Russian army. " I think we have agree on a lot here but there are wider issues. I don't think anyone would say that racism or ethnic hatred was involved if the chant was anti-Russian. Is that because Russians are somehow more like us than Israelis? Also the UK is involved in providing military assistance to both the Ukranians and the IDF. So actual material assistance in killing people rather than just chanting. So which is more important words or deeds? | |||
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"I see your point. Can only speak for myself of course, but I think leading a chant calling for the death of any group of people says a lot about the individual leading the chant. And even more about the sheep who join in, regardless of the group, including the Russian army. I think we have agree on a lot here but there are wider issues. I don't think anyone would say that racism or ethnic hatred was involved if the chant was anti-Russian. Is that because Russians are somehow more like us than Israelis? Also the UK is involved in providing military assistance to both the Ukranians and the IDF. So actual material assistance in killing people rather than just chanting. So which is more important words or deeds? " Aid to Ukraine has been used against an invading army on an 1100 mile border Support to Israel has been used to kill contained civilians. Hard not to miss a few when 2 million people displaced into 200km2 | |||
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"I see your point. Can only speak for myself of course, but I think leading a chant calling for the death of any group of people says a lot about the individual leading the chant. And even more about the sheep who join in, regardless of the group, including the Russian army. I think we have agree on a lot here but there are wider issues. I don't think anyone would say that racism or ethnic hatred was involved if the chant was anti-Russian. Is that because Russians are somehow more like us than Israelis? Also the UK is involved in providing military assistance to both the Ukranians and the IDF. So actual material assistance in killing people rather than just chanting. So which is more important words or deeds? " But it would still be racist, even if it’s not called out. We can’t control what other people call out and what they don’t. Same for the media. The thread is not about the wider issues of the Middle East or the UKs involvement in those issues. It’s about the racist behaviour of an individual on stage at Glastonbury. Please start a new thread if you want to bang a different drum. | |||
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"But it would still be racist..." Fair enough if you see it that way, it's that I've never heard of anyone supporting the war against Russia being described as racist. | |||
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"It’s interesting the way this has been reported. I’m just looking at the data now and the Sun headlines and write ups in the supermarket talking about “vile anti-Semitic outburst” Is shouting death to the IDF , who are responsible for all kinds of war crimes , anti semetic ? It seems it is, definition of anti Semitism now includes criticising Israeli government and armed forces. I can remember much worse things being shouted at anti-Iraq war riots in the UK against the British government and military forces by similar types of children" He didn't only say the things you mention, he went on to talk about having a jewish bald boss who was c*nt. I'm paraphrasing but it is out there if you look for it. | |||
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"It’s interesting the way this has been reported. I’m just looking at the data now and the Sun headlines and write ups in the supermarket talking about “vile anti-Semitic outburst” Is shouting death to the IDF , who are responsible for all kinds of war crimes , anti semetic ? It seems it is, definition of anti Semitism now includes criticising Israeli government and armed forces. I can remember much worse things being shouted at anti-Iraq war riots in the UK against the British government and military forces by similar types of children He didn't only say the things you mention, he went on to talk about having a jewish bald boss who was c*nt. I'm paraphrasing but it is out there if you look for it. " The person in question might be a complete cunt but no need to add his heritage.. Begs the question why if the 'artist' thought that then why were they were still with the bloke at that time..? | |||
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"But it would still be racist... Fair enough if you see it that way, it's that I've never heard of anyone supporting the war against Russia being described as racist." This isn’t someone supporting anything. This is someone calling for murder. I don’t see how you can’t see there’s a difference. | |||
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"This isn’t someone supporting anything. This is someone calling for murder. I don’t see how you can’t see there’s a difference. " I still don't understand your point about racism. On murder. Do you consider that the Palestinians have no right of self-defense against the IDF then? Specifically when the IDF is operating in Gaza or the West Bank. | |||
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"It’s interesting the way this has been reported. I’m just looking at the data now and the Sun headlines and write ups in the supermarket talking about “vile anti-Semitic outburst” Is shouting death to the IDF , who are responsible for all kinds of war crimes , anti semetic ? It seems it is, definition of anti Semitism now includes criticising Israeli government and armed forces. I can remember much worse things being shouted at anti-Iraq war riots in the UK against the British government and military forces by similar types of children He didn't only say the things you mention, he went on to talk about having a jewish bald boss who was c*nt. I'm paraphrasing but it is out there if you look for it. The person in question might be a complete cunt but no need to add his heritage.. Begs the question why if the 'artist' thought that then why were they were still with the bloke at that time..?" Bob Vylan in my opinion set out to incite and stir up the crowd with hate. Their act is not that far from this approach either. They have blown it because they stepped over the line by a country mile, they could have shown support for Palestinians, or criticised Israel's military and government approach in a meaningful way, but they chose not to. | |||
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"It’s interesting the way this has been reported. I’m just looking at the data now and the Sun headlines and write ups in the supermarket talking about “vile anti-Semitic outburst” Is shouting death to the IDF , who are responsible for all kinds of war crimes , anti semetic ? It seems it is, definition of anti Semitism now includes criticising Israeli government and armed forces. I can remember much worse things being shouted at anti-Iraq war riots in the UK against the British government and military forces by similar types of children He didn't only say the things you mention, he went on to talk about having a jewish bald boss who was c*nt. I'm paraphrasing but it is out there if you look for it. The person in question might be a complete cunt but no need to add his heritage.. Begs the question why if the 'artist' thought that then why were they were still with the bloke at that time..? Bob Vylan in my opinion set out to incite and stir up the crowd with hate. Their act is not that far from this approach either. They have blown it because they stepped over the line by a country mile, they could have shown support for Palestinians, or criticised Israel's military and government approach in a meaningful way, but they chose not to." I think they knew full well what they were doing, we've seen in history that simply saying 'this lot are bad' doesn't get the same response or reaction as upping the ante.. This will run and give them a platform to further criticise the actions of the idf we have become so accustomed to sadly.. | |||
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"Glastonbury is a _estival for people to get away from politics war hearing about death and destruction, leave your political views at the gate enjoy the vibe and music and beer with friends I did 2 tours in Iraq 1 in Afghanistan As was my job at the time has it made the world a better place has it bollocks just my view which was left at the gate " Perhaps those Hamas guys should have done the same thing eh at that concert they attended in Oct 2023. World would be a much better place eh | |||
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"This isn’t someone supporting anything. This is someone calling for murder. I don’t see how you can’t see there’s a difference. I still don't understand your point about racism. On murder. Do you consider that the Palestinians have no right of self-defense against the IDF then? Specifically when the IDF is operating in Gaza or the West Bank. " Again, if you can’t talk about the topic of the thread, don’t comment! | |||
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"Again, if you can’t talk about the topic of the thread, don’t comment! " I'm simply responding to what you yourself are writing. If you don't want that to be discussed then maybe don't type it? | |||
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"Again, if you can’t talk about the topic of the thread, don’t comment! I'm simply responding to what you yourself are writing. If you don't want that to be discussed then maybe don't type it?" Where did I mention Gaza or the West Bank? You just want to try and highjack the thread to suit your own political agenda. The thread is about comments made on a Glastonbury stage that were designed to insight racial hatred. If you want to discuss the general issues in the Middle East, start a thread! This thread is about Glastonbury. Do you want to talk about that or not? Simple question. | |||
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"Where did I mention Gaza or the West Bank? You just want to try and highjack the thread to suit your own political agenda. The thread is about comments made on a Glastonbury stage that were designed to insight racial hatred. If you want to discuss the general issues in the Middle East, start a thread! This thread is about Glastonbury. Do you want to talk about that or not? Simple question. " I'm genuinely not interested in hijacking your thread. However you brought up the subjects of racism and murder so you should have expected that someone might respond by asking what you meant about racism and murder in this context. And given that the context is about a "death to the IDF" chant, claiming it has nothing to do with Gaza or the West Bank is ridiculous. If you want a very narrow discussion then don't keep widening it by bringing in other issues. And even now you are stating that the chant was designed to insight racial hatred, so it's completey reasonable to examine what you are talking about isn't it? Or is this just supposed to be a monologue? | |||
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"Where did I mention Gaza or the West Bank? You just want to try and highjack the thread to suit your own political agenda. The thread is about comments made on a Glastonbury stage that were designed to insight racial hatred. If you want to discuss the general issues in the Middle East, start a thread! This thread is about Glastonbury. Do you want to talk about that or not? Simple question. I'm genuinely not interested in hijacking your thread. However you brought up the subjects of racism and murder so you should have expected that someone might respond by asking what you meant about racism and murder in this context. And given that the context is about a "death to the IDF" chant, claiming it has nothing to do with Gaza or the West Bank is ridiculous. If you want a very narrow discussion then don't keep widening it by bringing in other issues. And even now you are stating that the chant was designed to insight racial hatred, so it's completey reasonable to examine what you are talking about isn't it? Or is this just supposed to be a monologue?" By that same reasoning we could discuss cotton farms, as the IDF wear cotton sock? Is that your logic. Or timber yards as the stage would be made from timber most likely? I asked if you wanted to discuss the topic of the thread and while saying you don’t want change the topic, you continue to try to discuss something else. I’m guessing you’re a fan of the band mentioned and fully agree with what was said? | |||
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"Kneecap to appear at electric picnic _estival,Irelands Glastonbury on a smaller scale,should be interesting " Indeed….. 👍 | |||
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"Will be more interesting to see if Vylan still play or are scrubbed by the event organisers at Victoria warehouse this Saturday 5th July" That’s a bit of a no win no matter what the organisers do in my opinion. Scrubbing could lead to a refund situation and letting them play will generate a lot of publicity, but some of that publicity could be bad. I’d say it will come down to the views of the organisers, if they are aligned then they’ll let them play for sure. It not aligned they could make some publicity out of scrubbing them. | |||
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"By that same reasoning we could discuss cotton farms, as the IDF wear cotton sock? Is that your logic. Or timber yards as the stage would be made from timber most likely? I asked if you wanted to discuss the topic of the thread and while saying you don’t want change the topic, you continue to try to discuss something else. I’m guessing you’re a fan of the band mentioned and fully agree with what was said?" My opening comment was "I condemn the chant, we don't need any more people promoting violence". You've been talking about racism, murder, cotton and timber. | |||
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"Glastonbury is a _estival for people to get away from politics war hearing about death and destruction, leave your political views at the gate enjoy the vibe and music and beer with friends I did 2 tours in Iraq 1 in Afghanistan As was my job at the time has it made the world a better place has it bollocks just my view which was left at the gate " Tell me you know nothing about Glastonbury without telling me you know nothing about Glastonbury. It's always been a political event! But the moment it's not *your* politics you are up in arms complaining. | |||
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"It's a music _estival, they should of all been told this isn't the place for politics, just sing and do your performance " Music and music _estivals are political. Music isn't just melody with nonsensical lyrics. Music is a form of protest and artists have political opinions. " imagine being Jewish and attending that _estival and having to deal with that and probably hide your religious and national identity in amongst all of that " The chants by these artists were anti-zionist, not anti-semetic. Many Jewish people have been protesting against Israel's actions against the Palestinian people on a weekly basis in London. | |||
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"It's a music _estival, they should of all been told this isn't the place for politics, just sing and do your performance Music and music _estivals are political. Music isn't just melody with nonsensical lyrics. Music is a form of protest and artists have political opinions. imagine being Jewish and attending that _estival and having to deal with that and probably hide your religious and national identity in amongst all of that The chants by these artists were anti-zionist, not anti-semetic. Many Jewish people have been protesting against Israel's actions against the Palestinian people on a weekly basis in London." If a pro Israel band/group was up it would be a different story could only imagine what would of happened And to be clear I don't support either side I'm just looking at it from a different perspective then others | |||
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" If a pro Israel band/group was up it would be a different story could only imagine what would of happened And to be clear I don't support either side I'm just looking at it from a different perspective then others" What would a pro-Israel band be protesting against? This is just a nonsense strawman argument. | |||
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" If a pro Israel band/group was up it would be a different story could only imagine what would of happened And to be clear I don't support either side I'm just looking at it from a different perspective then others What would a pro-Israel band be protesting against? This is just a nonsense strawman argument." No just a Israeli band or group going to perform didn't mention them protesting, I just bet they would of been attacked or otherwise | |||
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"If a pro Israel band/group was up it would be a different story could only imagine what would of happened " Any pro-Israel band or singer would be targeted as soon as they were published on the line-up - even if they merely hailed from that country. Just look at what happened at Eurovision for the last two years. | |||
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"If a pro Israel band/group was up it would be a different story could only imagine what would of happened Any pro-Israel band or singer would be targeted as soon as they were published on the line-up - even if they merely hailed from that country. Just look at what happened at Eurovision for the last two years. " Well doesn't have to even be pro Israel, just a band or group from there would of been in a dangerous situation, just doing the song/performance | |||
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" If a pro Israel band/group was up it would be a different story could only imagine what would of happened And to be clear I don't support either side I'm just looking at it from a different perspective then others What would a pro-Israel band be protesting against? This is just a nonsense strawman argument. No just a Israeli band or group going to perform didn't mention them protesting, I just bet they would of been attacked or otherwise " You literally said pro Israel band: " If a pro Israel band/group was up it would be a different story " | |||
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"If a pro Israel band/group was up it would be a different story could only imagine what would of happened Any pro-Israel band or singer would be targeted as soon as they were published on the line-up - even if they merely hailed from that country. Just look at what happened at Eurovision for the last two years. Well doesn't have to even be pro Israel, just a band or group from there would of been in a dangerous situation, just doing the song/performance " That's pretty much what I said - although Eden Golan's song was originally called October Rain, but had to be changed to 'Hurricane' for being too political. | |||
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"They haven’t broken the law as such, but since the us is much more pro Israel at the moment than Europe is, I am not surprised they revoked the visa at all Actually.. the us are trying to deport many pro Palestinian voices even though those are not advocating any violence, whether that be revoking student visas or trying to revoke citizenship I’m not a lawyer but there is surely a case to answer as their comments could be classed as intending to insight racial hatred? If someone called for “death to black people” or “death to the IRA” or “death to illegal migrants” then it’s illegal. Who the subject of the threat is shouldn’t make a difference. You touch on a topic that I wanted to start a thread on…. Is there anyway you can criticise the Israeli government or the IDF without the words antisemitic or antisemitism being thrown around That’s why whenever I talk about either the IDF or the government, I never use the word “Jewish” in it" You can thank Hitler for that. He paved the way in the modern world for anti semiticsm along with Stalin and a few others, and of course you can go back a few hundred and thousands of years where Jews have been the subject of someones hatred. As prophesied in the Book of Revelation they will be the subject of a group of nations to gang up on them. Lead by the Bear from the North, you know who. Unfortunately for that prophesy to come true all the parties involved have to play their part. If everyone gets along they'd be no need for the second coming. Cause and effect. | |||
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" You can thank Hitler for that. He paved the way in the modern world for anti semiticsm along with Stalin and a few others" Not exactly true. Antisemitism was rife in Europe before the idea of the nation state had even fully developed. Large scale anti-Jewish violence was a big reason for the rise of political Zionism in the late 1800s, but even before that Jews had been systemically oppressed pretty much since the start of the European diaspora. Hitler was influenced by antisemitism that was already present. | |||
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"Some chaps from Mossad will be paying Bob a visit soon I'd say You tell 'em Bob."His remarks broadcast by the BBC to tens of millions, he’s looking at a stretch in HMP | |||
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"Some chaps from Mossad will be paying Bob a visit soon I'd say You tell 'em Bob.
His remarks broadcast by the BBC to tens of millions, he’s looking at a stretch in HMP "He’s apparently doubled down on the chants according to their social media. He won’t even be spoken to by the police. The police are now just the enforcement arm of our Marxist government. Read the Bible in public and you’re arrested. Call for murder on national television and nothing is said. Will get an MBE next I would have thought. As a side note, all the lefties in the crowd calling for murder should also get the same treatment. Anything less than 3 years is two tier justice. I do wonder how long it will be before there’s a backlash and Starmer puts armed troops on the streets. | |||
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" You touch on a topic that I wanted to start a thread on…. Is there anyway you can criticise the Israeli government or the IDF without the words antisemitic or antisemitism being thrown around That’s why whenever I talk about either the IDF or the government, I never use the word “Jewish” in it" You could say the same about "muslims" and "islamophobia".... | |||
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"There's hope yet for our nation when our youth dare to raise their voices in protest at seeing innocent women and children buried alive under thousands of tons of rubble, then shot when they try to collect food." There's no hope for a nation where people think that's what he's about | |||
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"In the future, when we are learning about this genocide, his speaking out will thankfully be celebrated. Until then, he will be punished due to the world being in Israel's pocket and ignoring their ethnic cleansing." Hell be long forgotten when he moves on to his next money making scam | |||
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"In the future, when we are learning about this genocide, his speaking out will thankfully be celebrated. Until then, he will be punished due to the world being in Israel's pocket and ignoring their ethnic cleansing." If he had used his platform to raise awareness without calling for death and hate you would be right but he didn't, which makes him no better. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? " It looks very much like a "Gerald Ratner moment". Visa cancelled, dropped by agent and lucrative US tour gone with the wind. Next big contact will be at the dole office. Clever lad. | |||
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"In the future, when we are learning about this genocide, his speaking out will thankfully be celebrated. Until then, he will be punished due to the world being in Israel's pocket and ignoring their ethnic cleansing." He will be forgotten in a month. He made his move and got his ten minutes of “fame”. | |||
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"If they're found to have broken the law then they have gone too far and they are responsible.. It is Netanyahu and Hamas accused of war crimes not kneecap, they haven’t killed anyone. " Kneecrap support sectarian murder gangs. They are financed by one. | |||
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"In the future, when we are learning about this genocide, his speaking out will thankfully be celebrated. Until then, he will be punished due to the world being in Israel's pocket and ignoring their ethnic cleansing." Those bloody Jews eh... Running the world. Didn't a couple of geezers say that about the jews before, then started to kill them all. You on the side of Hitler or stalin? | |||
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"In the future, when we are learning about this genocide, his speaking out will thankfully be celebrated. Until then, he will be punished due to the world being in Israel's pocket and ignoring their ethnic cleansing. Those bloody Jews eh... Running the world. Didn't a couple of geezers say that about the jews before, then started to kill them all. You on the side of Hitler or stalin? " The person you quoted didn't mentions Jewish people but much like zionists you twist their words for your own agenda. The Israeli lobby is a very real thing. In the USA you have AIPAC who has bribed politicians with 100s of millions of $$$, and in the UK you have zionist lobbying groups such as Conservative Friends of Israel, Labour Friends of Israel, and Liberal Democrat Friends of Israel. There is also the All-Party Britain-Israel Parliamentary Group. Moreover, there is the Israel Britain Alliance which was formed by the Zionist Federation. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? " The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country." In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. " It’s strange that nobody seems to be doing anything about this “genocide”. It’s happening right beneath our noses, yet nothing is being done. Why do you think this is? Is it a global Zionist conspiracy, or is there another more rational explanation? Why are you concerned about what the US is doing? I thought Europe was taking charge of global security. Maybe time for the UK and EU to step up and do…..well what exactly? | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. It’s strange that nobody seems to be doing anything about this “genocide”. It’s happening right beneath our noses, yet nothing is being done. Why do you think this is? Is it a global Zionist conspiracy, or is there another more rational explanation? Why are you concerned about what the US is doing? I thought Europe was taking charge of global security. Maybe time for the UK and EU to step up and do…..well what exactly? " I'll be honest. I don't really want to interact with people who advocate for ethnic cleansing. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. " Hurty words matter don't you know, it won't be the first or last time the white house will welcome a president or prime minister accused of genocide. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. " "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. Hurty words matter don't you know, it won't be the first or last time the white house will welcome a president or prime minister accused of genocide." In my opinion, "hurty words" whatever that's supposed to mean, is a lesser crime than genocide. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement." As my reply above, same response. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. It’s strange that nobody seems to be doing anything about this “genocide”. It’s happening right beneath our noses, yet nothing is being done. Why do you think this is? Is it a global Zionist conspiracy, or is there another more rational explanation? Why are you concerned about what the US is doing? I thought Europe was taking charge of global security. Maybe time for the UK and EU to step up and do…..well what exactly? I'll be honest. I don't really want to interact with people who advocate for ethnic cleansing. " I don’t want to interact with anti semites. That’s how this works right? | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response." Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response. Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? " I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous political BS that's going on with who they allow into the US. I have absolutely no idea about the legality of what he said. I'm not a legal expert in any shape or form. However from a political perspective, they're clamping down on anyone who speaks up about the genocide or about the UK government's involvement. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was made an example of. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response. Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous political BS that's going on with who they allow into the US. I have absolutely no idea about the legality of what he said. I'm not a legal expert in any shape or form. However from a political perspective, they're clamping down on anyone who speaks up about the genocide or about the UK government's involvement. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was made an example of. " I think it is inevitable he will face a jail sentence. In the last 12 months, people have gone to prison for burning the Quran and using hate speech, and we have those that used Twitter to incite hatred and violence. This is horseshoe theory playing out, both the far right and far left are resorting to the same tactics, and facing legal consequences in doing so. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response. Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous political BS that's going on with who they allow into the US. I have absolutely no idea about the legality of what he said. I'm not a legal expert in any shape or form. However from a political perspective, they're clamping down on anyone who speaks up about the genocide or about the UK government's involvement. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was made an example of. I think it is inevitable he will face a jail sentence. In the last 12 months, people have gone to prison for burning the Quran and using hate speech, and we have those that used Twitter to incite hatred and violence. This is horseshoe theory playing out, both the far right and far left are resorting to the same tactics, and facing legal consequences in doing so. " I don't know why you're trying to equate opposition of genocide to hate speech. But I'm sure there will be those within the legal system that will try anything to silence those who speak out. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response. Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous political BS that's going on with who they allow into the US. I have absolutely no idea about the legality of what he said. I'm not a legal expert in any shape or form. However from a political perspective, they're clamping down on anyone who speaks up about the genocide or about the UK government's involvement. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was made an example of. I think it is inevitable he will face a jail sentence. In the last 12 months, people have gone to prison for burning the Quran and using hate speech, and we have those that used Twitter to incite hatred and violence. This is horseshoe theory playing out, both the far right and far left are resorting to the same tactics, and facing legal consequences in doing so. I don't know why you're trying to equate opposition of genocide to hate speech. But I'm sure there will be those within the legal system that will try anything to silence those who speak out. " Also I disagree with your horseshoe analogy. Personally I don't see opposition to genocide as "far left". I should hope people across the political spectrum feel that genocide isn't good. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response. Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous political BS that's going on with who they allow into the US. I have absolutely no idea about the legality of what he said. I'm not a legal expert in any shape or form. However from a political perspective, they're clamping down on anyone who speaks up about the genocide or about the UK government's involvement. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was made an example of. I think it is inevitable he will face a jail sentence. In the last 12 months, people have gone to prison for burning the Quran and using hate speech, and we have those that used Twitter to incite hatred and violence. This is horseshoe theory playing out, both the far right and far left are resorting to the same tactics, and facing legal consequences in doing so. I don't know why you're trying to equate opposition of genocide to hate speech. But I'm sure there will be those within the legal system that will try anything to silence those who speak out. Also I disagree with your horseshoe analogy. Personally I don't see opposition to genocide as "far left". I should hope people across the political spectrum feel that genocide isn't good." There is no one side for genocide and one side against! The means of expression has become the same by far right and far left, a call for violence and hate. If you can't separate incitement of hate and violence from the act of protesting, you are going to be unable to understand where the line was crossed. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response. Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous political BS that's going on with who they allow into the US. I have absolutely no idea about the legality of what he said. I'm not a legal expert in any shape or form. However from a political perspective, they're clamping down on anyone who speaks up about the genocide or about the UK government's involvement. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was made an example of. I think it is inevitable he will face a jail sentence. In the last 12 months, people have gone to prison for burning the Quran and using hate speech, and we have those that used Twitter to incite hatred and violence. This is horseshoe theory playing out, both the far right and far left are resorting to the same tactics, and facing legal consequences in doing so. I don't know why you're trying to equate opposition of genocide to hate speech. But I'm sure there will be those within the legal system that will try anything to silence those who speak out. Also I disagree with your horseshoe analogy. Personally I don't see opposition to genocide as "far left". I should hope people across the political spectrum feel that genocide isn't good." There is no “genocide”. We all know that “genocide” is just a blatant dog-whistle. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response. Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous political BS that's going on with who they allow into the US. I have absolutely no idea about the legality of what he said. I'm not a legal expert in any shape or form. However from a political perspective, they're clamping down on anyone who speaks up about the genocide or about the UK government's involvement. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was made an example of. I think it is inevitable he will face a jail sentence. In the last 12 months, people have gone to prison for burning the Quran and using hate speech, and we have those that used Twitter to incite hatred and violence. This is horseshoe theory playing out, both the far right and far left are resorting to the same tactics, and facing legal consequences in doing so. I don't know why you're trying to equate opposition of genocide to hate speech. But I'm sure there will be those within the legal system that will try anything to silence those who speak out. Also I disagree with your horseshoe analogy. Personally I don't see opposition to genocide as "far left". I should hope people across the political spectrum feel that genocide isn't good. There is no one side for genocide and one side against! The means of expression has become the same by far right and far left, a call for violence and hate. If you can't separate incitement of hate and violence from the act of protesting, you are going to be unable to understand where the line was crossed. " There is definitely a side for genocide and one against. But that's not what I was referring to. Some similar tone of language was used by both the far right types you gave, and the anti-genocide "side". But that doesn't give any kind of equivalence to their message. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response. Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous political BS that's going on with who they allow into the US. I have absolutely no idea about the legality of what he said. I'm not a legal expert in any shape or form. However from a political perspective, they're clamping down on anyone who speaks up about the genocide or about the UK government's involvement. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was made an example of. I think it is inevitable he will face a jail sentence. In the last 12 months, people have gone to prison for burning the Quran and using hate speech, and we have those that used Twitter to incite hatred and violence. This is horseshoe theory playing out, both the far right and far left are resorting to the same tactics, and facing legal consequences in doing so. I don't know why you're trying to equate opposition of genocide to hate speech. But I'm sure there will be those within the legal system that will try anything to silence those who speak out. Also I disagree with your horseshoe analogy. Personally I don't see opposition to genocide as "far left". I should hope people across the political spectrum feel that genocide isn't good. There is no one side for genocide and one side against! The means of expression has become the same by far right and far left, a call for violence and hate. If you can't separate incitement of hate and violence from the act of protesting, you are going to be unable to understand where the line was crossed. There is definitely a side for genocide and one against. But that's not what I was referring to. Some similar tone of language was used by both the far right types you gave, and the anti-genocide "side". But that doesn't give any kind of equivalence to their message. " It doesn't matter what their message is if they step over the line and incite violence or hate. That is the point I'm making. You can agree in principle with what the core of the message was trying to highlight, but not the action it was asking for, surely? This is not okay for one side or the other to be doing, incitement played a role in the riots across the country last year. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response. Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous political BS that's going on with who they allow into the US. I have absolutely no idea about the legality of what he said. I'm not a legal expert in any shape or form. However from a political perspective, they're clamping down on anyone who speaks up about the genocide or about the UK government's involvement. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was made an example of. I think it is inevitable he will face a jail sentence. In the last 12 months, people have gone to prison for burning the Quran and using hate speech, and we have those that used Twitter to incite hatred and violence. This is horseshoe theory playing out, both the far right and far left are resorting to the same tactics, and facing legal consequences in doing so. I don't know why you're trying to equate opposition of genocide to hate speech. But I'm sure there will be those within the legal system that will try anything to silence those who speak out. Also I disagree with your horseshoe analogy. Personally I don't see opposition to genocide as "far left". I should hope people across the political spectrum feel that genocide isn't good. There is no one side for genocide and one side against! The means of expression has become the same by far right and far left, a call for violence and hate. If you can't separate incitement of hate and violence from the act of protesting, you are going to be unable to understand where the line was crossed. There is definitely a side for genocide and one against. But that's not what I was referring to. Some similar tone of language was used by both the far right types you gave, and the anti-genocide "side". But that doesn't give any kind of equivalence to their message. It doesn't matter what their message is if they step over the line and incite violence or hate. That is the point I'm making. You can agree in principle with what the core of the message was trying to highlight, but not the action it was asking for, surely? This is not okay for one side or the other to be doing, incitement played a role in the riots across the country last year. " I understand your point you're making. I don't think he was actually inciting violence and hate thought. I wouldn't have used those words. But I don't think the hipsters at Glastonbury are actually going to go over there and try it on with the IDF. | |||
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"In the future, when we are learning about this genocide, his speaking out will thankfully be celebrated. Until then, he will be punished due to the world being in Israel's pocket and ignoring their ethnic cleansing. If he had used his platform to raise awareness without calling for death and hate you would be right but he didn't, which makes him no better. " It's not hate. This isn't about religion or ethnicity, it's about an evil force. Same as the SS, etc. | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response. Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous political BS that's going on with who they allow into the US. I have absolutely no idea about the legality of what he said. I'm not a legal expert in any shape or form. However from a political perspective, they're clamping down on anyone who speaks up about the genocide or about the UK government's involvement. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was made an example of. I think it is inevitable he will face a jail sentence. In the last 12 months, people have gone to prison for burning the Quran and using hate speech, and we have those that used Twitter to incite hatred and violence. This is horseshoe theory playing out, both the far right and far left are resorting to the same tactics, and facing legal consequences in doing so. I don't know why you're trying to equate opposition of genocide to hate speech. But I'm sure there will be those within the legal system that will try anything to silence those who speak out. Also I disagree with your horseshoe analogy. Personally I don't see opposition to genocide as "far left". I should hope people across the political spectrum feel that genocide isn't good. There is no one side for genocide and one side against! The means of expression has become the same by far right and far left, a call for violence and hate. If you can't separate incitement of hate and violence from the act of protesting, you are going to be unable to understand where the line was crossed. There is definitely a side for genocide and one against. But that's not what I was referring to. Some similar tone of language was used by both the far right types you gave, and the anti-genocide "side". But that doesn't give any kind of equivalence to their message. It doesn't matter what their message is if they step over the line and incite violence or hate. That is the point I'm making. You can agree in principle with what the core of the message was trying to highlight, but not the action it was asking for, surely? This is not okay for one side or the other to be doing, incitement played a role in the riots across the country last year. " But IDF are hateful murderous evil folk so surely hypocritical to say this! | |||
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"US visas cancelled and dropped by their agent for “death to IDF” chants at Glastonbury. Did the lead singer go too far? Or is the response over the top? The usa have every right not to allow hate preachers into the country. In 2025 someone committing genocide will be welcomed into the US. While someone who spoke out about genocide was refused entry. I think that tells us all we need to know about where the united states current stands. "Sometimes we have to get our message across with violence because that’s the only language some people speak". That is where the line was drawn, because after that he said: "Death death to the IDF". He was foolish to push it to incitement. As my reply above, same response. Understood, but it is still a crime, 2 wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes. Do you expect him to get a prison sentence for his actions? I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous political BS that's going on with who they allow into the US. I have absolutely no idea about the legality of what he said. I'm not a legal expert in any shape or form. However from a political perspective, they're clamping down on anyone who speaks up about the genocide or about the UK government's involvement. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was made an example of. I think it is inevitable he will face a jail sentence. In the last 12 months, people have gone to prison for burning the Quran and using hate speech, and we have those that used Twitter to incite hatred and violence. This is horseshoe theory playing out, both the far right and far left are resorting to the same tactics, and facing legal consequences in doing so. I don't know why you're trying to equate opposition of genocide to hate speech. But I'm sure there will be those within the legal system that will try anything to silence those who speak out. Also I disagree with your horseshoe analogy. Personally I don't see opposition to genocide as "far left". I should hope people across the political spectrum feel that genocide isn't good. There is no one side for genocide and one side against! The means of expression has become the same by far right and far left, a call for violence and hate. If you can't separate incitement of hate and violence from the act of protesting, you are going to be unable to understand where the line was crossed. There is definitely a side for genocide and one against. But that's not what I was referring to. Some similar tone of language was used by both the far right types you gave, and the anti-genocide "side". But that doesn't give any kind of equivalence to their message. It doesn't matter what their message is if they step over the line and incite violence or hate. That is the point I'm making. You can agree in principle with what the core of the message was trying to highlight, but not the action it was asking for, surely? This is not okay for one side or the other to be doing, incitement played a role in the riots across the country last year. But IDF are hateful murderous evil folk so surely hypocritical to say this!" Do you know what happened October 7th? | |||
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"Not interested in the self-fulfilling argument between two individuals so reposting to return thread to topic ……… Will be more interesting to see if Vylan still play or are scrubbed by the event organisers at Victoria warehouse this Saturday 5th July" All the thread waffle is now academic, Vylan dropped this weekend by Victoria warehouse on Saturday, by a French gig host on Sunday and by a German host later in the month. Clearly a toxic band who have trashed their brand. | |||
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"Not interested in the self-fulfilling argument between two individuals so reposting to return thread to topic ……… Will be more interesting to see if Vylan still play or are scrubbed by the event organisers at Victoria warehouse this Saturday 5th July All the thread waffle is now academic, Vylan dropped this weekend by Victoria warehouse on Saturday, by a French gig host on Sunday and by a German host later in the month. Clearly a toxic band who have trashed their brand." To play devil's advocate (I'm not a fan of the band's music). Presumably as many opportunities that are lost. New fans and opportunities will open for them. It's not like they were a huge band anyway. | |||
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"There's hope yet for our nation when our youth dare to raise their voices in protest at seeing innocent women and children buried alive under thousands of tons of rubble, then shot when they try to collect food. There's no hope for a nation where people think that's what he's about " What's he about then? What part of what I said isn't true? | |||
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"Christ if he gets binned of by any more events he will be signing on by the end of summer" Surely there are groups who like his message who might be willing to host his shows... | |||
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"Surely there are groups who like his message who might be willing to host his shows..." The sentiment behind his words are very popular. Most people want the war in Gaza to stop. It’s his choice of words and how they have gone about it is what has gotten them blackballed. | |||
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"Christ if he gets binned of by any more events he will be signing on by the end of summer Surely there are groups who like his message who might be willing to host his shows..." i imagine some venues may not wana host him for fear of a back lash againat them | |||
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"Christ if he gets binned of by any more events he will be signing on by the end of summer Surely there are groups who like his message who might be willing to host his shows..." Maybe he's so talentless controversy is his only way of making a name. Why book a talentless twat. | |||
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"Christ if he gets binned of by any more events he will be signing on by the end of summer Surely there are groups who like his message who might be willing to host his shows..." I’m sure he’ll be fine. As we are always being told “cancel culture isn’t real”. Looks like the BBC has hung its Head of Music out to dry for this debacle (she is “stepping back”), despite its Director general being at Glastonbury at the time alongside another 500 publicly funded BBC staff. Davie has taken responsibility and immediately fired someone else. | |||
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"Just to make it clear to those that haven't looked into the story ... Bob Vylan is a group. There are 2 members, one called Bobby Vylan, and the other called Bobbie Vylan. So no more 'he' and 'him' please, it's 'they'." I'm glad you didn't use the word "singers" | |||
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" Maybe he's so talentless controversy is his only way of making a name. Why book a talentless twat." Hahahaha comments like this remind me how out of touch folk on fab are. Bob Vylan are a punk group. They have spoken out about similar issues in the past. This is what they are known for. This isn't faux controversy to make a name for themself. You people really don't get it do you? You go on about the so called monetary loss that the group may face but the whole point of this is to raise awareness of the atrocities Israel and the IDF have committed (which started looooong before October 7th) in Gaza and Palestine. It's not about money, it's about making a point and Bob Vylan have very much done that! | |||
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" Maybe he's so talentless controversy is his only way of making a name. Why book a talentless twat. Hahahaha comments like this remind me how out of touch folk on fab are. Bob Vylan are a punk group. They have spoken out about similar issues in the past. This is what they are known for. This isn't faux controversy to make a name for themself. You people really don't get it do you? You go on about the so called monetary loss that the group may face but the whole point of this is to raise awareness of the atrocities Israel and the IDF have committed (which started looooong before October 7th) in Gaza and Palestine. It's not about money, it's about making a point and Bob Vylan have very much done that!" Yes amazing. I wasn’t aware that there was any conflict in the Middle East until I watched Glastonbury on the BBC last weekend. | |||
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" Maybe he's so talentless controversy is his only way of making a name. Why book a talentless twat. Hahahaha comments like this remind me how out of touch folk on fab are. Bob Vylan are a punk group. They have spoken out about similar issues in the past. This is what they are known for. This isn't faux controversy to make a name for themself. You people really don't get it do you? You go on about the so called monetary loss that the group may face but the whole point of this is to raise awareness of the atrocities Israel and the IDF have committed (which started looooong before October 7th) in Gaza and Palestine. It's not about money, it's about making a point and Bob Vylan have very much done that! Yes amazing. I wasn’t aware that there was any conflict in the Middle East until I watched Glastonbury on the BBC last weekend. " Except it wasn't Palestine they'd been talking about the bombing in Iran had taken presidence so boby vylan put that genocide back in the news | |||
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" Maybe he's so talentless controversy is his only way of making a name. Why book a talentless twat. Hahahaha comments like this remind me how out of touch folk on fab are. Bob Vylan are a punk group. They have spoken out about similar issues in the past. This is what they are known for. This isn't faux controversy to make a name for themself. You people really don't get it do you? You go on about the so called monetary loss that the group may face but the whole point of this is to raise awareness of the atrocities Israel and the IDF have committed (which started looooong before October 7th) in Gaza and Palestine. It's not about money, it's about making a point and Bob Vylan have very much done that! Yes amazing. I wasn’t aware that there was any conflict in the Middle East until I watched Glastonbury on the BBC last weekend. Except it wasn't Palestine they'd been talking about the bombing in Iran had taken presidence so boby vylan put that genocide back in the news " If he wanted to be really edgy of course he would have flown an Israeli flag which the brainwashed middle class white kids in the crown would have found a lot more challenging. | |||
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" Maybe he's so talentless controversy is his only way of making a name. Why book a talentless twat. Hahahaha comments like this remind me how out of touch folk on fab are. Bob Vylan are a punk group. They have spoken out about similar issues in the past. This is what they are known for. This isn't faux controversy to make a name for themself. You people really don't get it do you? You go on about the so called monetary loss that the group may face but the whole point of this is to raise awareness of the atrocities Israel and the IDF have committed (which started looooong before October 7th) in Gaza and Palestine. It's not about money, it's about making a point and Bob Vylan have very much done that! Yes amazing. I wasn’t aware that there was any conflict in the Middle East until I watched Glastonbury on the BBC last weekend. Except it wasn't Palestine they'd been talking about the bombing in Iran had taken presidence so boby vylan put that genocide back in the news If he wanted to be really edgy of course he would have flown an Israeli flag which the brainwashed middle class white kids in the crown would have found a lot more challenging." Good job he didn't want to be edgy, and he wanted to draw attention to something. | |||
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" Maybe he's so talentless controversy is his only way of making a name. Why book a talentless twat. Hahahaha comments like this remind me how out of touch folk on fab are. Bob Vylan are a punk group. They have spoken out about similar issues in the past. This is what they are known for. This isn't faux controversy to make a name for themself. You people really don't get it do you? You go on about the so called monetary loss that the group may face but the whole point of this is to raise awareness of the atrocities Israel and the IDF have committed (which started looooong before October 7th) in Gaza and Palestine. It's not about money, it's about making a point and Bob Vylan have very much done that! Yes amazing. I wasn’t aware that there was any conflict in the Middle East until I watched Glastonbury on the BBC last weekend. Except it wasn't Palestine they'd been talking about the bombing in Iran had taken presidence so boby vylan put that genocide back in the news If he wanted to be really edgy of course he would have flown an Israeli flag which the brainwashed middle class white kids in the crown would have found a lot more challenging. Good job he didn't want to be edgy, and he wanted to draw attention to something. " Yes I’m sure he is quite the intellectual. | |||
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" Maybe he's so talentless controversy is his only way of making a name. Why book a talentless twat. Hahahaha comments like this remind me how out of touch folk on fab are. Bob Vylan are a punk group. They have spoken out about similar issues in the past. This is what they are known for. This isn't faux controversy to make a name for themself. You people really don't get it do you? You go on about the so called monetary loss that the group may face but the whole point of this is to raise awareness of the atrocities Israel and the IDF have committed (which started looooong before October 7th) in Gaza and Palestine. It's not about money, it's about making a point and Bob Vylan have very much done that! Yes amazing. I wasn’t aware that there was any conflict in the Middle East until I watched Glastonbury on the BBC last weekend. Except it wasn't Palestine they'd been talking about the bombing in Iran had taken presidence so boby vylan put that genocide back in the news If he wanted to be really edgy of course he would have flown an Israeli flag which the brainwashed middle class white kids in the crown would have found a lot more challenging." No one in their right mind is against Israel. Only the genocide Netanyahu is demanding from the IDF in Palestine | |||
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" Maybe he's so talentless controversy is his only way of making a name. Why book a talentless twat. Hahahaha comments like this remind me how out of touch folk on fab are. Bob Vylan are a punk group. They have spoken out about similar issues in the past. This is what they are known for. This isn't faux controversy to make a name for themself. You people really don't get it do you? You go on about the so called monetary loss that the group may face but the whole point of this is to raise awareness of the atrocities Israel and the IDF have committed (which started looooong before October 7th) in Gaza and Palestine. It's not about money, it's about making a point and Bob Vylan have very much done that! Yes amazing. I wasn’t aware that there was any conflict in the Middle East until I watched Glastonbury on the BBC last weekend. Except it wasn't Palestine they'd been talking about the bombing in Iran had taken presidence so boby vylan put that genocide back in the news If he wanted to be really edgy of course he would have flown an Israeli flag which the brainwashed middle class white kids in the crown would have found a lot more challenging. No one in their right mind is against Israel. Only the genocide Netanyahu is demanding from the IDF in Palestine " Will you be defecting to Corbyn’s new party? I’m sure in their meetings they will spend a lot of time talking about Jews. | |||
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" Maybe he's so talentless controversy is his only way of making a name. Why book a talentless twat. Hahahaha comments like this remind me how out of touch folk on fab are. Bob Vylan are a punk group. They have spoken out about similar issues in the past. This is what they are known for. This isn't faux controversy to make a name for themself. You people really don't get it do you? You go on about the so called monetary loss that the group may face but the whole point of this is to raise awareness of the atrocities Israel and the IDF have committed (which started looooong before October 7th) in Gaza and Palestine. It's not about money, it's about making a point and Bob Vylan have very much done that! Yes amazing. I wasn’t aware that there was any conflict in the Middle East until I watched Glastonbury on the BBC last weekend. Except it wasn't Palestine they'd been talking about the bombing in Iran had taken presidence so boby vylan put that genocide back in the news If he wanted to be really edgy of course he would have flown an Israeli flag which the brainwashed middle class white kids in the crown would have found a lot more challenging. No one in their right mind is against Israel. Only the genocide Netanyahu is demanding from the IDF in Palestine Will you be defecting to Corbyn’s new party? I’m sure in their meetings they will spend a lot of time talking about Jews." Lols!!!  desperate stuff | |||
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