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Current heatwave ‘likely to kill almost 600 people in England and Wales’

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By *1shadesoffun OP   Man
6 weeks ago

nearby

600 people are expected to die in the current heatwave. Mostly in the over 65 age group.

Researchers are claiming the surge in deaths would not be occurring without human caused global heating, with temperatures boosted by 2C-4C by the pollution from fossil fuels.

The climate crisis drove the annual global temperature in 2024 to a new record and carbon dioxide emissions from coal, oil and gas are still rising. That means heatwaves will get ever more intense and frequent.

A recent report by the UK climate change committee estimated that heat-related deaths could rise to more than 10,000 a year by 2050 if global temperatures rise to 2C above preindustrial levels.

Ed Milliband says we should all have solar panels to reduce the use of fossil fuels, but that is unlikely to prevent this apparent global climate disaster.

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
6 weeks ago

Between Sudbury n Haverhill

We should all have solar panels where possible, i agree. Every new build should have them. Car parks should be covered in them. So should supermarkets and industrial units.

I won’t change the climate unless every other country gets on board but at least it will break our reliance on imported gas

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
6 weeks ago

Hastings


"We should all have solar panels where possible, i agree. Every new build should have them. Car parks should be covered in them. So should supermarkets and industrial units.

I won’t change the climate unless every other country gets on board but at least it will break our reliance on imported gas "

If car parks are covered in soler panels where would you park?

The problem is cost and repayment time against life. If it lasts 10 years but takes 10 years to pay for its not a good investment. On say £15k

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
6 weeks ago

Between Sudbury n Haverhill


"We should all have solar panels where possible, i agree. Every new build should have them. Car parks should be covered in them. So should supermarkets and industrial units.

I won’t change the climate unless every other country gets on board but at least it will break our reliance on imported gas

If car parks are covered in soler panels where would you park?

The problem is cost and repayment time against life. If it lasts 10 years but takes 10 years to pay for its not a good investment. On say £15k"

Under the solar panels.

I’m not against the use of fossil fuels, but we’re gonna run out sooner or later. We’re never gonna run out of sunlight.

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By *ennineTopMan
6 weeks ago

York

Solar panels generally last 20 to 30 years although do degrade towards the end of their life.

I believe one company guarantees that their panels will still provide 80% output after 20 years.

Solar panels can to a large extent already be recycled but this is an area that will require further investment as more and more panels reach the end of their service.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
6 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

On holiday on a Greek island last year,the whole two weeks we didn't see a single EV or a large SUV and we drove round the island and through every day.

Lot's of huge motor powered ocean going super yacht's, but hey if Ed Millipede wants to pay for solar panels on our house he's welcome and throw in a heat source system as well.

Cheers Ed

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
6 weeks ago

Gilfach


"600 people are expected to die in the current heatwave. Mostly in the over 65 age group."

Whereas about 5,000 people die every year from being cold.

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By *exy_HornyCouple
5 weeks ago

Leigh


"If car parks are covered in soler panels where would you park?

The problem is cost and repayment time against life. If it lasts 10 years but takes 10 years to pay for its not a good investment. On say £15k"

The car park panels would be on car port type arrangements so you park under them.

Our panels are now 11 years old and output has dropped by about 15% since new. Payback would have been about 10 years (on the £7k investment) on the feed in tariffs alone however we use most of the power generated so payback was about 6 or 7 years.

The biggest issues are the stupid rules regarding how many panels you can have. Our system is 4kw but due to the shape of the roof not all panels can face the sun at the same time. We could fit another 2kw and therefore generate closer to 4kw for longer but we are not allowed to.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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5 weeks ago

East Sussex

I don't think anything can prevent the disaster that's heading our way. Eventually the population will be decimated by hunger, thirst, marginalisation or war and things will settle back down giving things time to repair.

Us all having solar panels and recycling our cardboard is salve to make us feel we're doing something. Meanwhile huge planes are dropping bombs, people in African countries are living in villages polluted by oil and our desire for palm oil is destroying rain forest daily.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
5 weeks ago

Gilfach


"The biggest issues are the stupid rules regarding how many panels you can have. Our system is 4kw but due to the shape of the roof not all panels can face the sun at the same time. We could fit another 2kw and therefore generate closer to 4kw for longer but we are not allowed to."

The 4kW limit isn't as strict as many people think. You can have more if you get permission from your DNO, and for most houses it's granted. That's even more likely if you have a battery system, and therefore won't be feeding too much power into the grid.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
5 weeks ago

Central

We do need to be preparing our country better for increasing temperatures, than we are today.

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By *exy_HornyCouple
5 weeks ago

Leigh


"The biggest issues are the stupid rules regarding how many panels you can have. Our system is 4kw but due to the shape of the roof not all panels can face the sun at the same time. We could fit another 2kw and therefore generate closer to 4kw for longer but we are not allowed to.

The 4kW limit isn't as strict as many people think. You can have more if you get permission from your DNO, and for most houses it's granted. That's even more likely if you have a battery system, and therefore won't be feeding too much power into the grid."

I know, however at the time of installation the cost of the assessment was £1000 and our feed in tariff went to the commercial rate which was about half of what we are getting.

So not viable.

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By *heffielderCouple
4 weeks ago

sheffield


"We should all have solar panels where possible, i agree. Every new build should have them. Car parks should be covered in them. So should supermarkets and industrial units.

I won’t change the climate unless every other country gets on board but at least it will break our reliance on imported gas "

Why should we all have solar panels?

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By *ikeSM23Man
4 weeks ago

Manchester


"600 people are expected to die in the current heatwave. Mostly in the over 65 age group.

Researchers are claiming the surge in deaths would not be occurring without human caused global heating, with temperatures boosted by 2C-4C by the pollution from fossil fuels.

The climate crisis drove the annual global temperature in 2024 to a new record and carbon dioxide emissions from coal, oil and gas are still rising. That means heatwaves will get ever more intense and frequent.

A recent report by the UK climate change committee estimated that heat-related deaths could rise to more than 10,000 a year by 2050 if global temperatures rise to 2C above preindustrial levels.

Ed Milliband says we should all have solar panels to reduce the use of fossil fuels, but that is unlikely to prevent this apparent global climate disaster. "

Any reason why this ever so obvious climate disaster, driven by the equally tangible global warming is considered as ‘apparent’?

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By *regoniansCouple
4 weeks ago

Oundle


"We should all have solar panels where possible, i agree. Every new build should have them. Car parks should be covered in them. So should supermarkets and industrial units.

I won’t change the climate unless every other country gets on board but at least it will break our reliance on imported gas "

No it won't. 5 of the last 12 months saw what the Germans call "dunkelflaute" - no sunshine and calm, still air. And we don't need to import gas, there is still plenty to be tapped in UK waters of onlu Milipede would allow it.

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By *1shadesoffun OP   Man
4 weeks ago

nearby


"We do need to be preparing our country better for increasing temperatures, than we are today. "

Today’s news; Britain’s largest retailers are warning that food prices are being driven up by hot weather hitting harvest yields, as the latest UK heatwave pushes temperatures close to record levels. Food inflation +3.7% in June

Netherlands covered with hundreds of acres of greenhouses growing food, and with it less use of pesticides. This needs addressing, huge opportunities for growing food in the face of rising temperatures. (Thanet Earth in south east est 2005 producing 400 million tonnes of tomatoes annually)

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By *2000ManMan
4 weeks ago

Worthing

Don't get much sun in the uk.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

4 weeks ago

East Sussex

All other things aside a lot of over 65s could prevent problems from heat if they drank more fluids, stopped wearing polyester and stopped insisting on wearing cardigans and jackets in 35°c.

I used to have to tell my mum that tights were a very bad idea in hot weather.

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"We do need to be preparing our country better for increasing temperatures, than we are today.

Today’s news; Britain’s largest retailers are warning that food prices are being driven up by hot weather hitting harvest yields, as the latest UK heatwave pushes temperatures close to record levels. Food inflation +3.7% in June

Netherlands covered with hundreds of acres of greenhouses growing food, and with it less use of pesticides. This needs addressing, huge opportunities for growing food in the face of rising temperatures. (Thanet Earth in south east est 2005 producing 400 million tonnes of tomatoes annually)

"

Producing in the UK at a price point the supermarkets and ultimately the public are willing to pay is the challenge.

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By *d4ugirlsMan
4 weeks ago

Green Cove Springs


"600 people are expected to die in the current heatwave. Mostly in the over 65 age group.

Researchers are claiming the surge in deaths would not be occurring without human caused global heating, with temperatures boosted by 2C-4C by the pollution from fossil fuels.

The climate crisis drove the annual global temperature in 2024 to a new record and carbon dioxide emissions from coal, oil and gas are still rising. That means heatwaves will get ever more intense and frequent.

A recent report by the UK climate change committee estimated that heat-related deaths could rise to more than 10,000 a year by 2050 if global temperatures rise to 2C above preindustrial levels.

Ed Milliband says we should all have solar panels to reduce the use of fossil fuels, but that is unlikely to prevent this apparent global climate disaster. "

Climate change cult grasping at straws, suckin tog the left, right in to doom and gloom.

We have had waves before, with no such dire predictions.

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