FabSwingers.com forum: Tumblewe'ed for Syria?

By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
2 weeks ago

Border of London

Since so many people are very concerned about every life in the Middle East, it's remarkable how little attention is given to this very significant development. Is it perhaps because people are not sure which side to support/condemn?

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

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By *ortyairCouple
2 weeks ago

Wallasey

There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
2 weeks ago

Border of London

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x"

Very possible so. There can be no outrage until people have figured out whom to hate...

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By *ortyairCouple
2 weeks ago

Wallasey

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

Very possible so. There can be no outrage until people have figured out whom to hate..."
When you try and explain that Islamic terrorism and their aims to people, they just think of the Israeli conflict. But they don't have any idea that Islamic terrorism is in fact a larger danger to Muslims...

These terrorists will kill anyone whom their Holy book tells them is a non believer, including fellow Muslims who don't believe in their particular strand of the Muslim faith. They have been killing fellow Muslims shortly after the faith came into being.

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs x

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
2 weeks ago

nearby

Islam on Islam let them carry on

While they are killing each other they are leaving the rest of us alone.

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By *ortyairCouple
2 weeks ago

Wallasey

It seems a similar thing in Yemen. Much more deaths , directly from the armed conflict and indirectly because of famine and starvation.

Not as much interest in that, certainly not on here. And given the responses from some posters, with their indignation about the 'murders' of innocents, you'd think they'd be incandescent with rage about the deaths in Yemen. There is more than 10 times the numbers. Over 150,000 directly from the conflict and more than a quarter of a million from famine and starvation. And they estimate those are conservative figures with some saying theres over 350,000 identifiable deaths and over 600,00 in total.

So more than a HALF a MILLION deaths, yet mainly silence on here, no outrage, nothing. Yet mention another conflict with 45,000 deaths and they are screaming from the roof tops. I just think if you are truly against innocent deaths than that should apply to ALL innocent deaths, not just those that have been killed by a side in the conflict you don't like, you know, the one that's Jewish.

It's seems to be the only factor that's missing in the conflicts in Syria and Yemen. All the other usual players are there just not the Jews.

And these same people hate it, point blank refuse to see how their attitudes may be seen as Antisemitic. Outrage when Jews are killing Arabs, none when Arabs are killing Arabs. It's not even a numbers things, in both Syria and Yemen, vastly more civillians have been killed, many, many times more. Vastly many, many more have starved yet no protest on here, no condemnation of any terrorist action, just silence. Yet if a Jew was involved the noise on here would be deafening but there's no Antisemitism. The sad thing is I don't think they can actually appreciate what I'm saying, I think this antisemitism is so deeply and subtly ingrained that they don't realise they are acting this way but it would seem they are.

Muslim conflict, that's still going on has killed more than a million other Muslims, Islamic terrorism is a plague on humanity, to everyone, everywhere. I think it's time to stop blaming the Jews for it all.

Mrs x

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By *eaCrestMan
1 week ago

Hartlepool

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x"

This is very biased and an inaccurate dangerous statement

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By *eaCrestMan
1 week ago

Hartlepool

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

Very possible so. There can be no outrage until people have figured out whom to hate...When you try and explain that Islamic terrorism and their aims to people, they just think of the Israeli conflict. But they don't have any idea that Islamic terrorism is in fact a larger danger to Muslims...

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs x"

It's a shame you justify the killing of innocent people to reach that, while condemning the killing of innocent people based on their religion and ethnicity

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By *eaCrestMan
1 week ago

Hartlepool

"Since so many people are very concerned about every life in the Middle East, it's remarkable how little attention is given to this very significant development. Is it perhaps because people are not sure which side to support/condemn?

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime."

While your virtue signalling with this does this also cover the attrocities and war mongering in Somalia by American forces?

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
1 week ago

Border of London

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

While your virtue signalling with this does this also cover the attrocities and war mongering in Somalia by American forces?"

Why don't you read back through the past few months of posting history. You will find mentions of China, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, etc.

Then come back with your questions about "virtue signalling", if you still feel that's what this is.

Hint: you will find nothing considered virtuous coming from these quarters. Vituperative, yes. We do not aim to please or pander.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
1 week ago

Bedford

The thing is Russia gets active in the area which could bring conflict between them and Israel who have been popping missiles into Syria every so often.

Are we looking at Armageddon as prophesied?

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
1 week ago

nearby

"The thing is Russia gets active in the area which could bring conflict between them and Israel who have been popping missiles into Syria every so often.

Are we looking at Armageddon as prophesied?

No. But the closest it’s come (ing) in my lifetime.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
1 week ago

Border of London

"The thing is Russia gets active in the area which could bring conflict between them and Israel who have been popping missiles into Syria every so often.

Are we looking at Armageddon as prophesied?

Unlikely because of Russia/Israel. Israel and Russia tend to officially ignore each other, but unofficially avoid engagement and have been doing so for many years. There are reports that Russia is not terribly interested in getting more involved with Syria at the moment, has made some personnel changes in the region (fired generals) and is withdrawing troops from many positions. Putin may well continue to prop up Assad (especially with air support), but Iran and Turkey are the big players there at the moment. Israel will mostly just sit back and enjoy the show at this point, while monitoring mostly Hezbollah-related movements, getting involved where weapons/personnel transfers seem likely. The less Israel is involved, the less likely opposing ideologies (such as those behind Hamas and Hezbollah) are to band together against a common enemy.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
1 week ago

Border of London

Are we looking at Armageddon as prophesied?

To this specific question... As prophesied, from a Christian viewpoint, there is no prophecy relating to Damascus in Gog & Magog. Consider following Amir Tsarfati on Telegram for a view from a Christian Arab, who discusses this a lot (and also has a huge amount of early-release news on what's going on in the Middle East).

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

This is very biased and an inaccurate dangerous statement "
But it's not is it. You aren't condemning anyone in these conflicts. You reserve your condemnation for me because it's obvious who I feel is to blame in another conflict. In fact you cannot move beyond this.

I am blaming Islamic terrorism in all it's forms. I am horrified by the amount of innocent deaths which have occurred here, mainly Muslim deaths.

But like I said its not very popular on these forums because of the absence of the Jews but well done for bringing them into this thread, you are quite silly at times. I hope you can just find a way discussing the issues here and condemn the killing of ALL innocent lives..

Mrs x

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By *eaCrestMan
1 week ago

Hartlepool

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

While your virtue signalling with this does this also cover the attrocities and war mongering in Somalia by American forces?

Why don't you read back through the past few months of posting history. You will find mentions of China, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, etc.

Then come back with your questions about "virtue signalling", if you still feel that's what this is.

Hint: you will find nothing considered virtuous coming from these quarters. Vituperative, yes. We do not aim to please or pander."

So are you the authority here?

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs x

It's a shame you justify the killing of innocent people to reach that, while condemning the killing of innocent people based on their religion and ethnicity

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How am I justifying killing innocents?

I'm explaining how Islamic terrorism is a bigger danger to Muslims than it is to anyone else but saying that everyone is a target, no one is safe.

When you say... 'It's a shame you justify the killing of innocent people to reach that', I'm not even sure what you are getting at. What is it you think I'm trying to reach?

Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

While your virtue signalling with this does this also cover the attrocities and war mongering in Somalia by American forces?

Why don't you read back through the past few months of posting history. You will find mentions of China, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, etc.

Then come back with your questions about "virtue signalling", if you still feel that's what this is.

Hint: you will find nothing considered virtuous coming from these quarters. Vituperative, yes. We do not aim to please or pander.

So are you the authority here?

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No one is claiming to be anything, just stating the obvious as its perceived.

Mrs x

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
1 week ago

Border of London

So are you the authority here?

Not in the slightest!

But you came along with the accusation of "virtue signalling" (whatever you meant by that) and a question as to whether it covers other conflicts. We have pointed out that if you want to understand our position on other conflicts, you may readily look back through posting history to see what is covered. Enjoy the read. Then come back and we can happily discuss all of the conflicts of the world.

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

While your virtue signalling with this does this also cover the attrocities and war mongering in Somalia by American forces?"
Why should it, is Syria isn't concerned with conflicts elsewhere in the world.

If you want you could start such a thread and discuss it in depth.

Mrs x

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By *eaCrestMan
1 week ago

Hartlepool

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs x

It's a shame you justify the killing of innocent people to reach that, while condemning the killing of innocent people based on their religion and ethnicity

How am I justifying killing innocents?

I'm explaining how Islamic terrorism is a bigger danger to Muslims than it is to anyone else but saying that everyone is a target, no one is safe.

When you say... 'It's a shame you justify the killing of innocent people to reach that', I'm not even sure what you are getting at. What is it you think I'm trying to reach?

Mrs x"

Killing civilians is abhorrent no matter the circumstances

You have stated in the past that it's unfortunate yet nessacery to kill civilians to achieve total defeat of Hamas

with total disregard to the root causes that's creating this mess in the first place

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By *eaCrestMan
1 week ago

Hartlepool

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

While your virtue signalling with this does this also cover the attrocities and war mongering in Somalia by American forces?Why should it, is Syria isn't concerned with conflicts elsewhere in the world.

If you want you could start such a thread and discuss it in depth.

Mrs x

I wasn't asking you

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

If you want you could start such a thread and discuss it in depth.

Mrs x

I wasn't asking you"
You are a polite guy aren't you haha.

Unfortunately for you this is a public forum so anyone can respond to any posts.

Telling me to basically shut up is a bit of a Red Flag to a Bull and makes me want to respond to all your posts for no other reason than I know it bothers you.

Are you being rude just because it's in your nature or is it because I'm a woman and not worthy of an opinion?

Nice this, isn't it,

Mrs x

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By *eaCrestMan
1 week ago

Hartlepool

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

If you want you could start such a thread and discuss it in depth.

Mrs x

I wasn't asking youYou are a polite guy aren't you haha.

Unfortunately for you this is a public forum so anyone can respond to any posts.

Telling me to basically shut up is a bit of a Red Flag to a Bull and makes me want to respond to all your posts for no other reason than I know it bothers you.

Are you being rude just because it's in your nature or is it because I'm a woman and not worthy of an opinion?

Nice this, isn't it,

Mrs x"

You assumed I was saying that in a rude manner because your applying your attitude to my words.

Insimplybstted that I wasn't asking you because your opinions will differ.

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

If you want you could start such a thread and discuss it in depth.

Mrs x

I wasn't asking youYou are a polite guy aren't you haha.

Unfortunately for you this is a public forum so anyone can respond to any posts.

Telling me to basically shut up is a bit of a Red Flag to a Bull and makes me want to respond to all your posts for no other reason than I know it bothers you.

Are you being rude just because it's in your nature or is it because I'm a woman and not worthy of an opinion?

Nice this, isn't it,

Mrs x

You assumed I was saying that in a rude manner because your applying your attitude to my words.

Insimplybstted that I wasn't asking you because your opinions will differ."
I've not assumed anything. I believe I have judged your comment objectively as a rude statement, said during an open conversation.

So what you are saying is it's OK during a conversation for you to make a point and when someone adds something you don't like, for example a different opinion, it's perfectly acceptable to tell them...'I wasn't talking to you'.

That's not polite in any circumstance. I believe it's rude, very rude but you don't. You then try to double down by saying my opinion are due to my attitude, well we can agree that 'attitude' is a factor here but it's not me.

Weren't you taught the maximum 'If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all'?

Mrs x

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By *eaCrestMan
1 week ago

Hartlepool

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

If you want you could start such a thread and discuss it in depth.

Mrs x

I wasn't asking youYou are a polite guy aren't you haha.

Unfortunately for you this is a public forum so anyone can respond to any posts.

Telling me to basically shut up is a bit of a Red Flag to a Bull and makes me want to respond to all your posts for no other reason than I know it bothers you.

Are you being rude just because it's in your nature or is it because I'm a woman and not worthy of an opinion?

Nice this, isn't it,

Mrs x

You assumed I was saying that in a rude manner because your applying your attitude to my words.

Insimplybstted that I wasn't asking you because your opinions will differ.I've not assumed anything. I believe I have judged your comment objectively as a rude statement, said during an open conversation.

Weren't you taught the maximum 'If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all'?

Mrs x"

I'm not going to lower myself answering base remarks like that. I've already explained my reply and If you you have an issue then that's your problem.

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

If you want you could start such a thread and discuss it in depth.

Mrs x

I wasn't asking youYou are a polite guy aren't you haha.

Unfortunately for you this is a public forum so anyone can respond to any posts.

Telling me to basically shut up is a bit of a Red Flag to a Bull and makes me want to respond to all your posts for no other reason than I know it bothers you.

Are you being rude just because it's in your nature or is it because I'm a woman and not worthy of an opinion?

Nice this, isn't it,

Mrs x

You assumed I was saying that in a rude manner because your applying your attitude to my words.

Weren't you taught the maximum 'If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all'?

Mrs x

I'm not going to lower myself answering base remarks like that. I've already explained my reply and If you you have an issue then that's your problem. "
Your lack of manners is not my problem it's yours. Chat to people like you'd like to be chatted to. It's simple manners.

No problem if you can't do this, it just shows what you really think. Mrs x

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By *end1Man
1 week ago

southend on sea

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime."
and Russia supports the Assad regime too.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
1 week ago

Border of London

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime. and Russia supports the Assad regime too."

As does Iran, whereas Turkey supports the rebels (just not the Kurdish ones).

It's all very messy.

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

If you want you could start such a thread and discuss it in depth.

Mrs x

I wasn't asking youYou are a polite guy aren't you haha.

Unfortunately for you this is a public forum so anyone can respond to any posts.

Telling me to basically shut up is a bit of a Red Flag to a Bull and makes me want to respond to all your posts for no other reason than I know it bothers you.

Are you being rude just because it's in your nature or is it because I'm a woman and not worthy of an opinion?

Nice this, isn't it,

Mrs x

You assumed I was saying that in a rude manner because your applying your attitude to my words.

Weren't you taught the maximum 'If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all'?

Mrs x

I'm not going to lower myself answering base remarks like that. I've already explained my reply and If you you have an issue then that's your problem. "
If you think I have made a 'base remark' then you've led an exceptionally sheltered life.

Mrs x

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By *eaCrestMan
1 week ago

Hartlepool

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

If you want you could start such a thread and discuss it in depth.

Mrs x

I wasn't asking youYou are a polite guy aren't you haha.

Unfortunately for you this is a public forum so anyone can respond to any posts.

Telling me to basically shut up is a bit of a Red Flag to a Bull and makes me want to respond to all your posts for no other reason than I know it bothers you.

Are you being rude just because it's in your nature or is it because I'm a woman and not worthy of an opinion?

Nice this, isn't it,

Mrs x

You assumed I was saying that in a rude manner because your applying your attitude to my words.

Weren't you taught the maximum 'If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all'?

Mrs x

I'm not going to lower myself answering base remarks like that. I've already explained my reply and If you you have an issue then that's your problem. If you think I have made a 'base remark' then you've led an exceptionally sheltered life.

Mrs x"

That's your opinion and entitl to it

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

To help: Hamas supports the rebels. Hezbollah supports the Assad regime.

If you want you could start such a thread and discuss it in depth.

Mrs x

I wasn't asking youYou are a polite guy aren't you haha.

Unfortunately for you this is a public forum so anyone can respond to any posts.

Telling me to basically shut up is a bit of a Red Flag to a Bull and makes me want to respond to all your posts for no other reason than I know it bothers you.

Are you being rude just because it's in your nature or is it because I'm a woman and not worthy of an opinion?

Nice this, isn't it,

Mrs x

You assumed I was saying that in a rude manner because your applying your attitude to my words.

Weren't you taught the maximum 'If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all'?

Mrs x

That's your opinion and entitl to it

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Certainly is, Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

Just looking at the limited number of posts on here, mostly coming from the usual suspects, illustrates the fact that Syria is indeed a Tumble issue for most forumites.

It is as I suggested probably due to the absence of one particular group that is currently being blamed, wrongly, for most of the ills in the region.

Mrs x

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
1 week ago

Border of London

BBC News - More Russian strikes as Syrian rebels advance after taking Aleppo

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czr7rkzz2gmo

12 killed by a (Russian) airstrike on a hospital. Yesterday. In some conflicts, people are rushing to condemn these sorts of things? What's different here?

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By *rminjoMan
1 week ago

london

Well said

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

"BBC News - More Russian strikes as Syrian rebels advance after taking Aleppo

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czr7rkzz2gmo

12 killed by a (Russian) airstrike on a hospital. Yesterday. In some conflicts, people are rushing to condemn these sorts of things? What's different here?"
It's sad but you know what the difference is, Mrs x

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By *eoBloomsMan
1 week ago

Springfield

No Jews, No News.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
1 week ago

Border of London

Free, free Syria?

All eyes on Aleppo?

From the Tigris to the sea! Syria will be free!

Demonstrations?

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By *eoBloomsMan
1 week ago

Springfield

"Free, free Syria?

All eyes on Aleppo?

From the Tigris to the sea! Syria will be free!

Demonstrations?"

No chance. The Gaza 'demonstrators' don't give a damn about civilians being slaughtered, in Syria or Yemen. They just hate Jews, simple as that.

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By *eaCrestMan
1 week ago

Hartlepool

"Free, free Syria?

All eyes on Aleppo?

From the Tigris to the sea! Syria will be free!

Demonstrations?

No chance. The Gaza 'demonstrators' don't give a damn about civilians being slaughtered, in Syria or Yemen. They just hate Jews, simple as that."

Well I wouldn't tar people with the same brush

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
1 week ago

Border of London

On 9 October, two days after the Hamas attack and before any real response from Israel, On 9 October, the Stop the War Coalition and Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC) both held a rally and march outside the Israeli embassy. A week later, there was another, larger one.

Let's see if Syria can attract the same levels of sympathy.

Once people have figured out who the good and bad guys are.

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By *ortyairCouple
1 week ago

Wallasey

"No Jews, No News.

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Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner, Mrs x

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By *eoBloomsMan
1 week ago

Springfield

"Free, free Syria?

All eyes on Aleppo?

From the Tigris to the sea! Syria will be free!

Demonstrations?

No chance. The Gaza 'demonstrators' don't give a damn about civilians being slaughtered, in Syria or Yemen. They just hate Jews, simple as that.

Well I wouldn't tar people with the same brush "

Why not when they share the same anti semitism ?

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma

How can anyone choose a side in this? Assad’s regime is authoritarian, and alternatives are shockingly worse, ranging from weak moderates that will never see the light of day, to extremists like ISIS. If Assad falls, Syria will be chaos, under extremist rule, if he stays in power it will be comparable.

The people of Syria certainly didn't start out wanting things to be worse in the long run, I just can't see it ending any other way.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
1 week ago

Border of London

"How can anyone choose a side in this? Assad’s regime is authoritarian, and alternatives are shockingly worse, ranging from weak moderates that will never see the light of day, to extremists like ISIS. If Assad falls, Syria will be chaos, under extremist rule, if he stays in power it will be comparable.

The people of Syria certainly didn't start out wanting things to be worse in the long run, I just can't see it ending any other way. "

Kurds should get a Kurdistan.

Weak moderates would be great, although they'll never hold power in the region.

The only viable alternative for most of the Middle East is smaller, mostly autonomous, states in a federation, with a very strict separation of powers. The whole damned map is a disaster of colonial mismanagement. The concept of countries in the Middle East is novel in many areas and unworkable. The intersections of religion, culture, ethnicities, families, tribes and politics do not allow for Western style states along current geographical borders.

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma

The people of Syria certainly didn't start out wanting things to be worse in the long run, I just can't see it ending any other way.

Kurds should get a Kurdistan.

Weak moderates would be great, although they'll never hold power in the region.

You are right about colonial borders like Sykes-Picot disrupting natural alignments. A federal model with autonomous regions could ease power struggles, but it requires cooperation that isn’t just unlikely it’s a non starter in the current climate. Similarly, granting the Kurds a new bordered state would create another Israel like trouble spot in the region.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
1 week ago

Border of London

The people of Syria certainly didn't start out wanting things to be worse in the long run, I just can't see it ending any other way.

Kurds should get a Kurdistan.

Weak moderates would be great, although they'll never hold power in the region.

Agreed on all points. But long term, it's the only viable option.

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1 week ago

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

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The people of Syria certainly didn't start out wanting things to be worse in the long run, I just can't see it ending any other way.

Kurds should get a Kurdistan.

Weak moderates would be great, although they'll never hold power in the region.

Agreed on all points. But long term, it's the only viable option."

You are right, longterm solutions like federalism and regional autonomy are the only viable paths, but they do seem impossible now as stability feels way off in regions plagued by persistent conflict and deep political / religious divisions. It might take something extreme to unite humanity, a shared challenge like climate change or even devastation of global conflict. In my opinion achieving Type 1 civilisation, let alone progressing toward Type 2, demands a shift in priorities and collective thinking that feels out of reach for now, and therefore we will continue to plod as we are...

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By *eoBloomsMan
4 days ago

Springfield

Looks like Assad has fallen. Maybe what follows will be worse, that's not unusual after revolutions, but for now we can celebrate the end of a tyrant.🇸🇾

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By *estivalMan
4 days ago

borehamwood

My guess if assad is gone Syria in a year or two will resemble the other dusty shithole Libya open air SL ave markets fucked infrastructure and different areas controlled by those terrorists the west has spent the last decade arming

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
4 days ago

nearby

Russia couldn’t save Assad’s tyranny

Time for nato grow a pair and kick Russia out of Ukraine.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
4 days ago

Pershore

Looks like it's time-up for the Assad dynasty. It's hard to see what follows next in Syria, but it won't be democracy. An uneasy alliance of tribal and religious factions seems the most likely.

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By *ugarbonkCouple
4 days ago

Cheshire

"My guess if assad is gone Syria in a year or two will resemble the other dusty shithole Libya open air SL ave markets fucked infrastructure and different areas controlled by those terrorists the west has spent the last decade arming"

This exactly. The elephant in the room no one is talking about us who funded these 'Rebels' and who actually controls them.

Iran next. I wonder how the modern equivalent of Kermit Roosevelt Jnr will play it this time?

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
4 days ago

Border of London

This exactly. The elephant in the room no one is talking about us who funded these 'Rebels' and who actually controls them.

Iran next. I wonder how the modern equivalent of Kermit Roosevelt Jnr will play it this time?"

Turkey (predominantly) funded them, but nobody controls them. There's not much debate on that. Unless you're Iran, with an axe to grind.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
4 days ago

Border of London

"Looks like it's time-up for the Assad dynasty. It's hard to see what follows next in Syria, but it won't be democracy. An uneasy alliance of tribal and religious factions seems the most likely."

The (Russian) plane reportedly carrying Assad out of Syria disappeared from the radar after some odd manoeuvres and supposedly crashed, about 5h ago.

How very interesting.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
4 days ago

Border of London

First statement by the Syrian Transitional Government:

'O free sons of Syria,

After long years of injustice, tyranny and oppression, and after great sacrifices made by the sons and daughters of this dear homeland, we announce today to the great Syrian people and the entire world that the regime of Bashar al-Assad has fallen, and that he has fled the country, leaving behind a legacy of destruction and suffering.

On this historic day, we announce that the forces of the revolution and opposition have taken control of affairs in beloved Syria, and we affirm our commitment to building a free, just and democratic state in which all citizens are equal without discrimination.

We pledge before God and before the people the following:

1. Preserving the unity and sovereignty of Syrian territory.

2. Protecting all citizens and their property, regardless of their affiliations.

3. Working to rebuild the state and its institutions on the foundations of freedom and justice.

4. Striving to achieve comprehensive national reconciliation, and returning refugees and displaced persons to their homes in safety and dignity.

5. Holding accountable all those who have committed crimes against the Syrian people, in accordance with the law and justice.

We call on the Syrian people to unite and stand together at this historic stage, and we affirm that the new Syria will not be the monopoly of anyone, but a homeland for all.

Long live a free and proud Syria,

And peace, mercy and blessings of God be upon you.

National Transitional Council

Damascus, 08.12.2024.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
4 days ago

Border of London

5. Holding accountable all those who have committed crimes against the Syrian people, in accordance with the law and justice.

This is the blank cheque that all revolutions write themselves, which can result in a reign of terror. Let's hope that's not the case here and that the international community can quickly trade recognition for some semblance of reason and benevolent governance...

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By *eaCrestMan
4 days ago

Hartlepool

I wouldn't pop open the champagne just yet.. let's see how this lot shape up

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By *eaCrestMan
4 days ago

Hartlepool

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs x"

Sounds like you support genocide to me.

How you rationalise it is shocking too, and likely you don't realise just how like them you are.

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By *ountry cowboyMan
4 days ago

Kinross

Time to restart the Crusades

King Richard had the right idea on the third crusade

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By *regoniansCouple
4 days ago

Oundle

Everyone is forgetting that Assad's wife holds dual Syrian/British nationality and the UK government would struggle under ECHR to prevent her and her children's entry to this country. Under family reunion protocols it might also be compelled to allow Assad himself in unless he is charged with war crimes or is designated a persona non grata. Let's be reminded too that many Labour party MPs have met and have been in dialogue with Assad. I am sure George Galloway and Jezza would be only too happy to give him a lift into town from LHR.

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By *eaCrestMan
4 days ago

Hartlepool

"Everyone is forgetting that Assad's wife holds dual Syrian/British nationality and the UK government would struggle under ECHR to prevent her and her children's entry to this country. Under family reunion protocols it might also be compelled to allow Assad himself in unless he is charged with war crimes or is designated a persona non grata. Let's be reminded too that many Labour party MPs have met and have been in dialogue with Assad. I am sure George Galloway and Jezza would be only too happy to give him a lift into town from LHR."

The UK is in no position to be the holier than though nation.

Look at the hideous regimes the UK is in bed with

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By *exxyyDy11Man
4 days ago

Darwen

I'm glad the tyrant is gone. He should pay for crimes that his family and supporters have committed.

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By *eoBloomsMan
4 days ago

Springfield

It's also a defeat for Iran and Russia which is a good thing.

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By *eoBloomsMan
4 days ago

Springfield

Possibly although Libya under Gaddafi was relatively stable whereas Syria has been at civil war for almost a decade.

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By *eaCrestMan
4 days ago

Hartlepool

"I'm glad the tyrant is gone. He should pay for crimes that his family and supporters have committed. "

I wouldn't be popping the champagne corks just yet.

The new lot could be worse.

Btw war crimes committed by UK's allies are just as bad

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By *eoBloomsMan
4 days ago

Springfield

"I'm glad the tyrant is gone. He should pay for crimes that his family and supporters have committed.

I wouldn't be popping the champagne corks just yet.

The new lot could be worse.

Btw war crimes committed by UK's allies are just as bad"

Two things can true at the same time. We don't know what the new Syria will be like but we can still be pleased that a terrible dictator has fallen. Iraq was a fuck up after the US invasion but I bet most Iraqis are pleased Saddam has gone.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
4 days ago

Pershore

The UK is in no position to be the holier than though nation.

Look at the hideous regimes the UK is in bed with

My enemy's enemy is my friend. Just a fact of life to survive and stay safe.

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By *eaCrestMan
4 days ago

Hartlepool

"I'm glad the tyrant is gone. He should pay for crimes that his family and supporters have committed.

I wouldn't be popping the champagne corks just yet.

The new lot could be worse.

Btw war crimes committed by UK's allies are just as bad

Yes I agree but at a terrible price.

the UN, USA UK and a number of other countries say Hayat Tahrir al-Sham as an al-Qaeda affiliate and frequently refer to it as al-Nusra Front. The US has named Abu Mohammed al-Jawlani a global terrorist so like I say ; let's not be cracking open the champagne over Syria just yet

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By *ortyairCouple
4 days ago

Wallasey

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs x

Sounds like you support genocide to me.

How you rationalise it is shocking too, and likely you don't realise just how like them you are.

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Removing a terrorist groups is not genocide and you are ridiculous suggesting I'm like them. Sometimes you say the silliest things Dan, Mrs x

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By *eaCrestMan
4 days ago

Hartlepool

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs x

Sounds like you support genocide to me.

How you rationalise it is shocking too, and likely you don't realise just how like them you are.

Removing a terrorist groups is not genocide and you are ridiculous suggesting I'm like them. Sometimes you say the silliest things Dan, Mrs x"

I think you should drink decaffe coffee Mrs X

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By *eroy1000Man
4 days ago

milton keynes

"I'm glad the tyrant is gone. He should pay for crimes that his family and supporters have committed.

I wouldn't be popping the champagne corks just yet.

The new lot could be worse.

Btw war crimes committed by UK's allies are just as bad

Yes I agree but at a terrible price.

This is the concerning thing, that although it's good to see Asad toppled and a defeat for Iran and Russia, the new lot have been designated terrorists across the world ages ago. It's been pointed out on reports that the promises they are giving to behave and not impose their ideology on the citizens is the same as the Taliban used when taking over Afghanistan. They learnt to say whatever the world wanted to hear at first but bit by bit went back to their old ways. Hopefully this will not be the case in Syria.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
4 days ago

nearby

The news appears to show Syrians supportive and happy with the new leaders. Unless that is our media spin.

Uk and USA cannot judge look at the mess they left in Iraq

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
4 days ago

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"I'm glad the tyrant is gone. He should pay for crimes that his family and supporters have committed.

I wouldn't be popping the champagne corks just yet.

The new lot could be worse.

Btw war crimes committed by UK's allies are just as bad

Yes I agree but at a terrible price.

I think there's some very valid concerns but I also think the influence of their backers, largely Turkey has to be a consideration..

Whether their support was given with the expectations that further turmoil and sectarian revenge is to be seen but one hopes so..

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4 days ago

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By *eoBloomsMan
4 days ago

Springfield

Turkey definitely a winner in all this. Soon be a few dental clinics opening up in Damascus.

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4 days ago

Hartlepool

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs x

Sounds like you support genocide to me.

How you rationalise it is shocking too, and likely you don't realise just how like them you are.

Removing a terrorist groups is not genocide and you are ridiculous suggesting I'm like them. Sometimes you say the silliest things Dan, Mrs x"

There's a multitude of ways to deal with terrorists and the methods you support are horrorendous. Did you write that yourself or are you quoting a genocidal despot you support.

Your from southern Ireland, should the RAF have bombed thousands of innocent Irish people to get one or two IRA terrorists? Killing you your parents your siblings? Would you have condoned that?

Dan! Lol, is he some mug that fancies you?

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By *a LunaWoman
4 days ago

South Wales

Just heard that the rebels have taken Damascus and that Assad has fled the Country.

What happens now?

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
4 days ago

nearby

Any more reports on Assad’s escape plane.

Has Putin snuffed him

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By *abioMan
4 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Just heard that the rebels have taken Damascus and that Assad has fled the Country.

What happens now?"

Plane to Dubai where he lives out his life with a shedload of cash!

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By *end1Man
4 days ago

southend on sea

Its been reported that the Kurdish who occupy part of Syria could be attacked next their backed by the USA but hated by Turkey.

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By *abioMan
4 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Its been reported that the Kurdish who occupy part of Syria could be attacked next their backed by the USA but hated by Turkey."

The PKK and The YPG are both considered terrorist groups by erdogun

I could see Turkey trying to take some Syrian land and calling it a “buffer zone”

The most interesting question actually may be how much can the US lean of a new Syrian government to get the Russians to leave their military and naval bases…

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By *eoBloomsMan
4 days ago

Springfield

"Just heard that the rebels have taken Damascus and that Assad has fled the Country.

What happens now?"

I visited Damascus in the 90s, was an amazing City then. Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon could all have amazing tourist industries.

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By *oxychick35Couple
4 days ago

thornaby

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x"
exactly that you’ve nailed it again iv also noticed the usuall suspects missing on this weired

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By *eoBloomsMan
4 days ago

Springfield

Assad in Moscow, hope its minus 30 this winter and his heating doesn't work.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
4 days ago

nearby

"Assad in Moscow, hope its minus 30 this winter and his heating doesn't work."

Let’s hope the rebels get Tartus port. Paywall torygraph says that could be serious trouble for Putins war effort.

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By *abioMan
4 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Assad in Moscow, hope its minus 30 this winter and his heating doesn't work."

He won’t be there for long.. I still think he ends up in Dubai with all his hidden cash

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By *regoniansCouple
4 days ago

Oundle

"Assad in Moscow, hope its minus 30 this winter and his heating doesn't work.

Let’s hope the rebels get Tartus port. Paywall torygraph says that could be serious trouble for Putins war effort. "

According to Al Jazeera, the Russians have abandoned Tartus naval base.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
4 days ago

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"Assad in Moscow, hope its minus 30 this winter and his heating doesn't work.

Let’s hope the rebels get Tartus port. Paywall torygraph says that could be serious trouble for Putins war effort.

According to Al Jazeera, the Russians have abandoned Tartus naval base."

Not surprised..

The russians have been butchering women and children for Assad for years, they will get hung by their ankles if they're caught..

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By *eroy1000Man
4 days ago

milton keynes

The news appears to show Syrians supportive and happy with the new leaders. Unless that is our media spin.

Uk and USA cannot judge look at the mess they left in Iraq "

Yes I see some footage of that. Hope their new leaders are true to their word but the fear is these are recognised terrorists and they may replicate what the Taliban done in Afghanistan. Good that hat Asad is gone. Only time will tell I guess.

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By *coptoCouple
4 days ago

Côte d'Azur & Great Yarmouth

"I visited Damascus in the 90s, was an amazing City then"

We lived there for four years, our two youngest children were born there. Under Hafez-al-Assad Syria was liberal, women had the same education and career opportunities as men, I had male, female, Sunni, Christian, even Sri Lanki employees. Plus one Alawi who was disliked by the others because he felt superior! The extremists (Muslim Brotherhood etc.) had been quietened - yes, sometimes brutally - Shia Muslims kept themselves to themselves, and Basil was being groomed to take over; he'd already cleared out a lot of corruption, especially in his own Lattakia region. But it all went wrong when he died and Bashar allowed himself to be Russia's puppet. My own view is that he should've been more like his Uncle Rifaat...

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By *wisted999Man
4 days ago

North Bucks

Whilst Asad gone is good news I can only see chaos and more bloodshed for years to come.

I hope I am incorrect I really do.

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By *ortyairCouple
4 days ago

Wallasey

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs x

Sounds like you support genocide to me.

How you rationalise it is shocking too, and likely you don't realise just how like them you are.

Removing a terrorist groups is not genocide and you are ridiculous suggesting I'm like them. Sometimes you say the silliest things Dan, Mrs x

There's a multitude of ways to deal with terrorists and the methods you support are horrorendous. Did you write that yourself or are you quoting a genocidal despot you support.

Your from southern Ireland, should the RAF have bombed thousands of innocent Irish people to get one or two IRA terrorists? Killing you your parents your siblings? Would you have condoned that?

Dan! Lol, is he some mug that fancies you? "
Add something to the thread, anything.

All you do is post to me about non related stuff, questioning my responses. It's just so boring and if I'm honest demonstrates you have a one track mind and cannot cope with having to think for yourself.

Also do I owe you anything or is it free for me to be living inside your head, you're obsessed haha, Mrs x

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4 days ago

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By *eaCrestMan
4 days ago

Hartlepool

assuming there's some arguementative message in this thread from certain elements on here giving somewhat conceited lectures about larger conflicts that don't involve Israel, that does not diminish the wrongs of Israel.

Yemen Somalia Syria are not really conflicts we could influence without major direct involvement, Israel is.

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By *eaCrestMan
4 days ago

Hartlepool

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs x

Sounds like you support genocide to me.

How you rationalise it is shocking too, and likely you don't realise just how like them you are.

Removing a terrorist groups is not genocide and you are ridiculous suggesting I'm like them. Sometimes you say the silliest things Dan, Mrs x

There's a multitude of ways to deal with terrorists and the methods you support are horrorendous. Did you write that yourself or are you quoting a genocidal despot you support.

Your from southern Ireland, should the RAF have bombed thousands of innocent Irish people to get one or two IRA terrorists? Killing you your parents your siblings? Would you have condoned that?

Dan! Lol, is he some mug that fancies you? Add something to the thread, anything.

Also do I owe you anything or is it free for me to be living inside your head, you're obsessed haha, Mrs x"

All of this is your opinion and your entitled to it and I have my opinions too.

No furthe point in discussing anything if you make comments like this. You do it to others too

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By *wosmilersCouple
4 days ago

Heathrowish

It is funny how when uncomfortable truths emerge, some hide behind the "no engagement banner" once they have run out of arguments.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
4 days ago

Border of London

"assuming there's some arguementative message in this thread from certain elements on here giving somewhat conceited lectures about larger conflicts that don't involve Israel, that does not diminish the wrongs of Israel.

Yemen Somalia Syria are not really conflicts we could influence without major direct involvement, Israel is.

Was there any meat in that word salad?

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By *eoBloomsMan
4 days ago

Springfield

""I visited Damascus in the 90s, was an amazing City then"

What a wonderful experience for you. I had a friend studying there on a cultural exchange so I visited for a couple of weeks- it was a very memorable time, the City seemed very peaceful and open.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
4 days ago

The Outer Rim

a large political vacuum has been created in the world .... lets see which one of the many well funded turds expands to fill the empty space with the next episode of shit

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By *ortyairCouple
4 days ago

Wallasey

Yemen Somalia Syria are not really conflicts we could influence without major direct involvement, Israel is.

Was there any meat in that word salad?"
No, I've examined sais 'wird salad' and there is no meat, no meat at all, Mrs x

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By *hrill CollinsMan
4 days ago

The Outer Rim

be interesting to see wether the new turds on the block want the st0len Golan Heights back

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By *ortyairCouple
4 days ago

Wallasey

Doubt they'll be getting them back, Mrs x

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By *coptoCouple
4 days ago

Côte d'Azur & Great Yarmouth

By whom and from whom? Quneitra just about sums up the whole situation: it was was part of an area taken over and occupied by Israel in the Six-Day War of 1967. They withdrew after the 1973 Yom Kippur War and, being in the UN buffer zone, it was still unoccupied during all the time I was living in Damascus. I took visitors there a few times though, to show them around what was an eerie ghost town.

BUT, Syria told the world that the Israelis had destroyed everything (heart-breaking to see a large hospital with all its windows smashed and walls knocked down by tanks) before they left. Israelis maintained that the Syrians themselves had done it to make them look bad.

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By *end1Man
4 days ago

southend on sea

"By whom and from whom? Quneitra just about sums up the whole situation: it was was part of an area taken over and occupied by Israel in the Six-Day War of 1967. They withdrew after the 1973 Yom Kippur War and, being in the UN buffer zone, it was still unoccupied during all the time I was living in Damascus. I took visitors there a few times though, to show them around what was an eerie ghost town.

One will never know the real truth behind this and so much of what goes on in that region… although I can understand Israel putting their own forces in the Golan rather than trusting the UN to continue to keep them apart."
seeing as Israel have deliberately targeted the UN peacekeepers headquarters and injured in peacekeepers I doubt the Un will have much sympathy Israel. And Israel knocking down/attacking a hospital it wouldn't be the first time!

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By *eaCrestMan
4 days ago

Hartlepool

"It is funny how when uncomfortable truths emerge, some hide behind the "no engagement banner" once they have run out of arguments. "

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By *eaCrestMan
3 days ago

Hartlepool

"Doubt they'll be getting them back, Mrs x"

In short, what your saying is that you and the op of the thread are some kind of omnipotent god's gift fountain of knowledge in the subject of the middle east and anyone disagreeing with you and your op double act lectures are inferior.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
3 days ago

Border of London

"Doubt they'll be getting them back, Mrs x

How do you figure that out?

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By *ortyairCouple
3 days ago

Wallasey

"Doubt they'll be getting them back, Mrs x

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Haha you have no answers to any questions just personal attacks. It's both funny and sad all at the same time.

Just try and answer a question, or contribute something to a thread without attacking someone, so at least it looks like you have some sort of understanding of what's being discussed.

Mrs x

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By *hrill CollinsMan
3 days ago

The Outer Rim

well that didn't take long did it .... Israli government has put boots on the ground inside syria and started wholsale bombing of the revolutionaries newly aquired assets.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
3 days ago

in Lancashire

"well that didn't take long did it .... Israli government has put boots on the ground inside syria and started wholsale bombing of the revolutionaries newly aquired assets."

Israel are rightly going after the Iranian missiles being made in Syria for Hezbollah and Hamas plus the Americans have carried out at least 75 strikes on ISIS targets ..

The major concern is also the stockpiles of chemical weapons and who they might end up in the hands of..

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By *hrill CollinsMan
3 days ago

The Outer Rim

"well that didn't take long did it .... Israli government has put boots on the ground inside syria and started wholsale bombing of the revolutionaries newly aquired assets.

Israel are rightly going after the Iranian missiles being made in Syria for Hezbollah and Hamas plus the Americans have carried out at least 75 strikes on ISIS targets ..

The major concern is also the stockpiles of chemical weapons and who they might end up in the hands of.."

regardless of the official excuses for the action, this will destabilise the whole region .... which is probably the idea behind it.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
3 days ago

in Lancashire

"well that didn't take long did it .... Israli government has put boots on the ground inside syria and started wholsale bombing of the revolutionaries newly aquired assets.

Israel are rightly going after the Iranian missiles being made in Syria for Hezbollah and Hamas plus the Americans have carried out at least 75 strikes on ISIS targets ..

The major concern is also the stockpiles of chemical weapons and who they might end up in the hands of..

regardless of the official excuses for the action, this will destabilise the whole region .... which is probably the idea behind it."

No one profits from that though and I doubt that was Turkeys end game in backing the current lot who overthrew Assad..

It weakens Iran which is no bad thing, and if Russia loses it's based that's a blow for them in the region..

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
3 days ago

Border of London

"well that didn't take long did it .... Israli government has put boots on the ground inside syria and started wholsale bombing of the revolutionaries newly aquired assets."

Fancy Israel not wanting a bunch of terrorists, who (today) have said that next is Al Aqsa, not to have the entire arsenal of a state at their disposal...

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By *hrill CollinsMan
3 days ago

The Outer Rim

who knows .... they may magically become not terrorists by this time next week as various western governments form an orderly queue in desperate attempts to do deals with the new regime.

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By *end1Man
3 days ago

southend on sea

As it stands Syria is made up of 4 zones. You have the Kurdish forces who are backed by the USA but seen as the enemy to Turkey and already there's tension growing in that part but the kurds are keeping guard over an estimated 50.000 ISIS prisoners!

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
2 days ago

Border of London

List of countries that announced today they are freezing all Syrian asylum applications:

🇩🇪 Germany

🇫🇷 France

🇮🇹 Italy

🇬🇧 UK

🇳🇱 Netherlands

🇧🇪 Belgium

🇦🇹 Austria

🇸🇪 Sweden

🇫🇮 Finland

🇩🇰 Denmark

🇳🇴 Norway

🇨🇿 Czechia

🇨🇭 Switzerland

🇭🇷 Croatia

🇬🇷 Greece

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By *eoBloomsMan
2 days ago

Springfield

"List of countries that announced today they are freezing all Syrian asylum applications:

🇩🇪 Germany

🇫🇷 France

🇮🇹 Italy

🇬🇧 UK

🇳🇱 Netherlands

🇧🇪 Belgium

🇦🇹 Austria

🇸🇪 Sweden

🇫🇮 Finland

🇩🇰 Denmark

🇳🇴 Norway

🇨🇿 Czechia

🇨🇭 Switzerland

🇭🇷 Croatia

🇬🇷 Greece"

As far as Britain goes that's a bit of spin which will be quietly dropped - we accept loads of asylum applications from safe and stable countries. Any applicants from Syria will now just claim to be persecuted by the new regime. I imagine other European countries will be much tougher and actually start returning Syrians soon.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
23 hours ago

in Lancashire

Ironic that Israel's actions in degrading Syria's military assets and expansion in the Golan might strengthen Putin's case for keeping his bases there..

I can see why Israel are taking out some assets but if they leave the new regime with nothing they may look to stronger neighbours who seek to exploit their own strategic aims..

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By *otMe66Man
23 hours ago

Terra Firma

"Ironic that Israel's actions in degrading Syria's military assets and expansion in the Golan might strengthen Putin's case for keeping his bases there..

I can see why Israel are taking out some assets but if they leave the new regime with nothing they may look to stronger neighbours who seek to exploit their own strategic aims.."

I'm not sure what to make of Israel right now, they are single handedly taking on the middle east and have destabilised much of the power base in the countries that were problematic to them.

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By *ortyairCouple
23 hours ago

Wallasey

"Ironic that Israel's actions in degrading Syria's military assets and expansion in the Golan might strengthen Putin's case for keeping his bases there..

I can see why Israel are taking out some assets but if they leave the new regime with nothing they may look to stronger neighbours who seek to exploit their own strategic aims..

I'm not sure what to make of Israel right now, they are single handedly taking on the middle east and have destabilised much of the power base in the countries that were problematic to them.

Iran, who in my opinion started this conflict by proxy, must be worried that they have lost a lot of their influence and are going to be exposed from a loss of external militarily support for years to come."
Let's hope so, could be a big blow against Islamic terrorism, Mrs x

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By *hrill CollinsMan
22 hours ago

The Outer Rim

creating too large an undefandable vacuum will bite israel on the arse as the void is filled by various players

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
21 hours ago

in Lancashire

"Ironic that Israel's actions in degrading Syria's military assets and expansion in the Golan might strengthen Putin's case for keeping his bases there..

I can see why Israel are taking out some assets but if they leave the new regime with nothing they may look to stronger neighbours who seek to exploit their own strategic aims..

I'm not sure what to make of Israel right now, they are single handedly taking on the middle east and have destabilised much of the power base in the countries that were problematic to them.

I can see where they are coming from, Biden wasn't strong enough in influencing Netanyahu with several aspects that rightly have drawn valid criticism whilst they went after Hamas..

Trump will back them unequivocally and they look to be using the opportunity afforded them after Oct 7 to weaken Iran and their proxy's..

Iran are weaker than they were when they gave Hamas the green light to butcher innocent Israeli's and Russia if they lose their bases in Syria will be also..

Turkey look intent on wiping out the Kurds and the USA won't want a direct conflict with the former over the latter..

When you think it's a mess it gets even messier..

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By *hrill CollinsMan
20 hours ago

The Outer Rim

the further to right = the bigger the shit show

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By *oxychick35Couple
20 hours ago

thornaby

"Ironic that Israel's actions in degrading Syria's military assets and expansion in the Golan might strengthen Putin's case for keeping his bases there..

I can see why Israel are taking out some assets but if they leave the new regime with nothing they may look to stronger neighbours who seek to exploit their own strategic aims..

I'm not sure what to make of Israel right now, they are single handedly taking on the middle east and have destabilised much of the power base in the countries that were problematic to them.

Iran, who in my opinion started this conflict by proxy, must be worried that they have lost a lot of their influence and are going to be exposed from a loss of external militarily support for years to come."
I think Iran are going to have huge problems with there own ppl specially the young educated I can see another uprising in the whole region

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By *wosmilersCouple
20 hours ago

Heathrowish

"the further to right = the bigger the shit show

The further to the left or the right = the bigger shit show

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By *oxychick35Couple
20 hours ago

thornaby

"the further to right = the bigger the shit show

The further to the left or the right = the bigger shit show

"
think we are the only country going to the left right now

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By *verysmileMan
20 hours ago

Canterbury

"the further to right = the bigger the shit show

The further to the left or the right = the bigger shit show

think we are the only country going to the left right now "

It may take a while but we may end up with homogeneous haircuts and work fatigues in a decade or so

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By *hrill CollinsMan
20 hours ago

The Outer Rim

"the further to right = the bigger the shit show

The further to the left or the right = the bigger shit show

think we are the only country going to the left right now

It may take a while but we may end up with homogeneous haircuts and work fatigues in a decade or so

you're obviously predicting either nutty NigEl Dulce or sturmbahnfurher badenoch as next PM

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
19 hours ago

in Lancashire

"Ironic that Israel's actions in degrading Syria's military assets and expansion in the Golan might strengthen Putin's case for keeping his bases there..

I can see why Israel are taking out some assets but if they leave the new regime with nothing they may look to stronger neighbours who seek to exploit their own strategic aims..

I'm not sure what to make of Israel right now, they are single handedly taking on the middle east and have destabilised much of the power base in the countries that were problematic to them.

Iran, who in my opinion started this conflict by proxy, must be worried that they have lost a lot of their influence and are going to be exposed from a loss of external militarily support for years to come.I think Iran are going to have huge problems with there own ppl specially the young educated I can see another uprising in the whole region "

Distinct possibility even after the crackdowns after the last one..

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By *otMe66Man
15 hours ago

Terra Firma

"Ironic that Israel's actions in degrading Syria's military assets and expansion in the Golan might strengthen Putin's case for keeping his bases there..

I can see why Israel are taking out some assets but if they leave the new regime with nothing they may look to stronger neighbours who seek to exploit their own strategic aims..

I'm not sure what to make of Israel right now, they are single handedly taking on the middle east and have destabilised much of the power base in the countries that were problematic to them.

Iran, who in my opinion started this conflict by proxy, must be worried that they have lost a lot of their influence and are going to be exposed from a loss of external militarily support for years to come.I think Iran are going to have huge problems with there own ppl specially the young educated I can see another uprising in the whole region

Distinct possibility even after the crackdowns after the last one.."

It would be good to see the downfall of such oppressive governments, the price that will be paid for that to happen, worries me.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
14 hours ago

in Lancashire

"Ironic that Israel's actions in degrading Syria's military assets and expansion in the Golan might strengthen Putin's case for keeping his bases there..

I can see why Israel are taking out some assets but if they leave the new regime with nothing they may look to stronger neighbours who seek to exploit their own strategic aims..

I'm not sure what to make of Israel right now, they are single handedly taking on the middle east and have destabilised much of the power base in the countries that were problematic to them.

Iran, who in my opinion started this conflict by proxy, must be worried that they have lost a lot of their influence and are going to be exposed from a loss of external militarily support for years to come.I think Iran are going to have huge problems with there own ppl specially the young educated I can see another uprising in the whole region

Distinct possibility even after the crackdowns after the last one..

It would be good to see the downfall of such oppressive governments, the price that will be paid for that to happen, worries me. "

Might be too high for it's citizens..

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By *otMe66Man
13 hours ago

Terra Firma

"Ironic that Israel's actions in degrading Syria's military assets and expansion in the Golan might strengthen Putin's case for keeping his bases there..

I can see why Israel are taking out some assets but if they leave the new regime with nothing they may look to stronger neighbours who seek to exploit their own strategic aims..

I'm not sure what to make of Israel right now, they are single handedly taking on the middle east and have destabilised much of the power base in the countries that were problematic to them.

Iran, who in my opinion started this conflict by proxy, must be worried that they have lost a lot of their influence and are going to be exposed from a loss of external militarily support for years to come.I think Iran are going to have huge problems with there own ppl specially the young educated I can see another uprising in the whole region

Distinct possibility even after the crackdowns after the last one..

It would be good to see the downfall of such oppressive governments, the price that will be paid for that to happen, worries me.

Might be too high for it's citizens.."

It will be terribly high right now. However, the last uprising sparked by the death of Mahsa Amini in September 2022, was supported by young men as well as women, that could be a signal that things can and will change over the next decade or 2.

fingers crossed.

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By *eroy1000Man
12 hours ago

milton keynes

"Ironic that Israel's actions in degrading Syria's military assets and expansion in the Golan might strengthen Putin's case for keeping his bases there..

I can see why Israel are taking out some assets but if they leave the new regime with nothing they may look to stronger neighbours who seek to exploit their own strategic aims..

I'm not sure what to make of Israel right now, they are single handedly taking on the middle east and have destabilised much of the power base in the countries that were problematic to them.

Iran, who in my opinion started this conflict by proxy, must be worried that they have lost a lot of their influence and are going to be exposed from a loss of external militarily support for years to come.Let's hope so, could be a big blow against Islamic terrorism, Mrs x"

Hope so as well, though their status as a terrorist organisation now seems to be under discussion again. It appears that if a terrorist group overthrow a brutal dictator then the their past seems less of an issue all of a sudden

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
12 hours ago

Border of London

"It appears that if a terrorist group overthrow a brutal dictator then the their past seems less of an issue all of a sudden"

The intersection of politics and pragmatism...

There's slim hope...

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By *idnight RamblerMan
11 hours ago

Pershore

Churchill was branded a war criminal for sinking the French Fleet in WWII (to keep ships out of the hands of the Germans). Isn't that the exact same thing Netanyahu has done to the Syrian Fleet?

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
11 hours ago

Border of London

"Churchill was branded a war criminal for sinking the French Fleet in WWII (to keep ships out of the hands of the Germans). Isn't that the exact same thing Netanyahu has done to the Syrian Fleet? "

Then brand him a war criminal...

But that was more about the 1300 French navy personnel killed.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
11 hours ago

Pershore

"Churchill was branded a war criminal for sinking the French Fleet in WWII (to keep ships out of the hands of the Germans). Isn't that the exact same thing Netanyahu has done to the Syrian Fleet?

Then brand him a war criminal...

But that was more about the 1300 French navy personnel killed."

Well the UN already have done that job for me.

How many dead Syrian sailors would exempt your hero then?

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
11 hours ago

Border of London

"Churchill was branded a war criminal for sinking the French Fleet in WWII (to keep ships out of the hands of the Germans). Isn't that the exact same thing Netanyahu has done to the Syrian Fleet?

Then brand him a war criminal...

But that was more about the 1300 French navy personnel killed.

Well the UN already have done that job for me.

How many dead Syrian sailors would exempt your hero then?"

He is most definitely not our hero.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
11 hours ago

Pershore

"Churchill was branded a war criminal for sinking the French Fleet in WWII (to keep ships out of the hands of the Germans). Isn't that the exact same thing Netanyahu has done to the Syrian Fleet?

Then brand him a war criminal...

But that was more about the 1300 French navy personnel killed.

Well the UN already have done that job for me.

How many dead Syrian sailors would exempt your hero then?

He is most definitely not our hero."

Fair enough. But my point was that absolute numbers do not natter when assessing war crimes. It's more the deed itself.

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By *resesse_Meliorem OP Couple
11 hours ago

Border of London

"Churchill was branded a war criminal for sinking the French Fleet in WWII (to keep ships out of the hands of the Germans). Isn't that the exact same thing Netanyahu has done to the Syrian Fleet?

Then brand him a war criminal...

But that was more about the 1300 French navy personnel killed.

Well the UN already have done that job for me.

How many dead Syrian sailors would exempt your hero then?

He is most definitely not our hero.

Fair enough. But my point was that absolute numbers do not natter when assessing war crimes. It's more the deed itself."

100%

The context, proportionality, intent and sheer bloodthirstiness is the (messy and subjective) measure by which they must be judged.

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By *eavilMan
11 hours ago

Stalybridge

Churchill may well have been tried as a war criminal if he had lost the war. The winners seldom get brought to book.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
11 hours ago

Pershore

"Churchill was branded a war criminal for sinking the French Fleet in WWII (to keep ships out of the hands of the Germans). Isn't that the exact same thing Netanyahu has done to the Syrian Fleet?

Then brand him a war criminal...

But that was more about the 1300 French navy personnel killed.

Well the UN already have done that job for me.

How many dead Syrian sailors would exempt your hero then?

He is most definitely not our hero.

Fair enough. But my point was that absolute numbers do not natter when assessing war crimes. It's more the deed itself.

100%

The context, proportionality, intent and sheer bloodthirstiness is the (messy and subjective) measure by which they must be judged.

I'll go with that.

"Take him down to the cells!"

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By *eaCrestMan
10 hours ago

Hartlepool

"Doubt they'll be getting them back, Mrs x

Haha you have no answers to any questions just personal attacks. It's both funny and sad all at the same time.

Just try and answer a question, or contribute something to a thread without attacking someone, so at least it looks like you have some sort of understanding of what's being discussed.

Mrs x"

Depends what your basing your questions on based on your point of view.

I base my points of view on ethics and a sense of principles.

If someone who's a narcissist without any ethics or principles are asking me things from their point of view especially loaded ones based on their assumptions /fundings then discussing anything is difficult at best

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By *ortyairCouple
10 hours ago

Wallasey

"Doubt they'll be getting them back, Mrs x

Haha you have no answers to any questions just personal attacks. It's both funny and sad all at the same time.

Just try and answer a question, or contribute something to a thread without attacking someone, so at least it looks like you have some sort of understanding of what's being discussed.

Mrs x

Depends what your basing your questions on based on your point of view.

I base my points of view on ethics and a sense of principles.

Sorry that was a question and I know how you hate being asked them, even very simple ones,

Mrs x

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By *atonMan
10 hours ago

barnet

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs x"
What a vile specimen you are

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By *ortyairCouple
10 hours ago

Wallasey

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs xWhat a vile specimen you are "
So does that make you a terrorist supporter then?

Mrs x

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9 hours ago

Hartlepool

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By *eaCrestMan
9 hours ago

Hartlepool

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs xWhat a vile specimen you are So does that make you a terrorist supporter then?

Mrs x"

QED!

After stating " Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon"

Then asks a question like that. Some people need to give their heads a wobble

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By *eaCrestMan
9 hours ago

Hartlepool

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs xWhat a vile specimen you are So does that make you a terrorist supporter then?

Mrs x"

Do you support the Israeli terrorist actions?

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By *ortyairCouple
9 hours ago

Wallasey

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs xWhat a vile specimen you are So does that make you a terrorist supporter then?

Mrs x

QED!

After stating " Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon"

Then asks a question like that. Some people need to give their heads a wobble "
So you support terrorists too, doesn't surprise me, Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple
9 hours ago

Wallasey

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs xWhat a vile specimen you are So does that make you a terrorist supporter then?

Mrs x

Do you support the Israeli terrorist actions?"
Israel is not a recognised terrorist organisation, Hamas is though, Mrs x

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By *ortyairCouple
9 hours ago

Wallasey

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs xWhat a vile specimen you are So does that make you a terrorist supporter then?

Mrs x

QED!

After stating " Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon"

Then asks a question like that. Some people need to give their heads a wobble "
They are savages and that's why they hide behind woman and kidd because they do mean nothing to them, it's obvious but you seem to think otherwise.

Are these terrorist kind and benevolent because you seem to view them in a different light to me, they are savages, baby burning savages and deserve everything that's coming to them.

I'd tell you to give your head a wobble but I'd worry about your tin foil hat falling off, Mrs x

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By *end1Man
8 hours ago

southend on sea

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs xWhat a vile specimen you are So does that make you a terrorist supporter then?

Mrs x

Do you support the Israeli terrorist actions?Israel is not a recognised terrorist organisation, Hamas is though, Mrs x"
it does appear from your many statements that whilst Israel may not be a terrorist state you never condemn any actions the IDF carry out. For example the continued bombing of tents in the displaced area that Israel said was safe! Or the drone attacks on the medical workers who try to retrieve the injured and dead bodies. What's your view on the attacks by the illegal settlements on the Palestinians?

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By *eaCrestMan
8 hours ago

Hartlepool

"There's a Jewish shaped void and that's why there isn't as much 'interest' in this conflict as there might have been, this despite more deaths occurring here than in other conflicts.

Or I might just be a little cynical, Mrs x

The excuse that their Holy text compels this so is just a terribly evil interpretation of their scriptures.

So if you don't challenge these murderous religious ideology then they will continue killing other Muslims, Jews, Christians, anyone who they believe does not follow the right path.

Human life means nothing to these savaged, that's why they hide behind woman and children because they mean nothing.

Hope they are all wiped off the face of the Earth soon,

Mrs xWhat a vile specimen you are So does that make you a terrorist supporter then?

Mrs x

Do you support the Israeli terrorist actions?Israel is not a recognised terrorist organisation, Hamas is though, Mrs x"

Then your justifying who's a terrorist and who isn't, who commits atrocities and who isn't, not based on acts themselves but by justifying them on context.

People believe that the Muslims who's lived there fo centuries - millennia are chattle in the way are to be dispensed with and the true Aires of the area are Jews from European countries.

Yes the Jews have suffered awful persecution through history and anyone denying that is insane.

But the by founding Israel as a home for Jews has caused them to escape brutality , only to become what they despise. They are the oppressors now,

I condemn hamas's attacks on 7 October as I condemn Israel in its murderous persecution of innocent people, I'd condemn the British government if they carpet bombed Ireland and flattened huge areas.

A war crime isn't determined by the context of who what when why but the act itself.

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