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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts" In and of themselves neither are illegal, nor should they be. People should have the right to dislike or disagree with whatever they like. Acting on it, however, could (and should) be different. | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts In and of themselves neither are illegal, nor should they be. People should have the right to dislike or disagree with whatever they like. Acting on it, however, could (and should) be different. " yes we all have a veiw but it seems its you can be arrested if your islamaphobic or anti semetic but if your anti catholic thats ok ? | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts In and of themselves neither are illegal, nor should they be. People should have the right to dislike or disagree with whatever they like. Acting on it, however, could (and should) be different. yes we all have a veiw but it seems its you can be arrested if your islamaphobic or anti semetic but if your anti catholic thats ok ?" Arrested on what charge? | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts" Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? | |||
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"The problem in UK is that we have many vaguely worded laws which are up to interpretation. The 2003 communications act that's used to arrest people for posting stuff on social media says it's illegal to post anything "grossly offensive". Wtf does that mean? Different people find different things offensive. So it will be up to the police to interpret it in whatever way they want. The same is the case with 2006 racial and religious hatred law. The US did a great job with their first amendment - the only exceptions to free speech are direct calls for violence and libel/slander. But the law in the UK bans "inciting hatred" which is again left to the police to interpret. And the police pick and choose where to apply them." Anti-cathocism starts at the top of the establishment it is blatant bigoted secterianism in my opinion | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on?" A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ? | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ?" Boris Johnson is a Catholic, isn't he? Being monarch is also not an available job for 99.9999999999% of us, regardless of religion, or lack of. | |||
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"A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ?" The law has been changed so a Catholic can, and has been, prime minister. https://catholicleader.com.au/features/what-is-boris-johnsons-legacy-a-catholic-view/ | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ?" Personally as someone who was christened into that 'faith' I actually don't care what religion or none that a PM has, there's far more necessary and required characteristics than whether they follow a faith or not.. | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ? Boris Johnson is a Catholic, isn't he? Being monarch is also not an available job for 99.9999999999% of us, regardless of religion, or lack of." My mistake about pm,i get your point about the monarchy but if one of them marries a catholic they are banned under the act of settlement from the monarchy | |||
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"A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ? The law has been changed so a Catholic can, and has been, prime minister. https://catholicleader.com.au/features/what-is-boris-johnsons-legacy-a-catholic-view/" thanks, my mistake | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ? Personally as someone who was christened into that 'faith' I actually don't care what religion or none that a PM has, there's far more necessary and required characteristics than whether they follow a faith or not.. " i do and i still say its bigoted | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ? Boris Johnson is a Catholic, isn't he? Being monarch is also not an available job for 99.9999999999% of us, regardless of religion, or lack of. My mistake about pm,i get your point about the monarchy but if one of them marries a catholic they are banned under the act of settlement from the monarchy" Which was amended in 2015. The monarch has to be church of England, obvious reasons why, but the spouse doesn't. | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ? Personally as someone who was christened into that 'faith' I actually don't care what religion or none that a PM has, there's far more necessary and required characteristics than whether they follow a faith or not.. i do and i still say its bigoted " Both of the two main faith's in your part of the country I would wager exhibit far more bigotry towards each other regularly.. It's not good whomever is screaming hate at the other 'side', would you agree? | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ? Personally as someone who was christened into that 'faith' I actually don't care what religion or none that a PM has, there's far more necessary and required characteristics than whether they follow a faith or not.. i do and i still say its bigoted " Can't beat a good fishing post. | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic." So its bigoted on religious reasons | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ? Boris Johnson is a Catholic, isn't he? Being monarch is also not an available job for 99.9999999999% of us, regardless of religion, or lack of. My mistake about pm,i get your point about the monarchy but if one of them marries a catholic they are banned under the act of settlement from the monarchy Which was amended in 2015. The monarch has to be church of England, obvious reasons why, but the spouse doesn't." Whats the obvious reasons? | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ? Personally as someone who was christened into that 'faith' I actually don't care what religion or none that a PM has, there's far more necessary and required characteristics than whether they follow a faith or not.. i do and i still say its bigoted Can't beat a good fishing post. " You call it fishing,i call it debating | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic. So its bigoted on religious reasons" Have you had one too many drinks?? The monarch is head of the church, how could he or she possibly be Catholic? That's not bigotry. | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ? Personally as someone who was christened into that 'faith' I actually don't care what religion or none that a PM has, there's far more necessary and required characteristics than whether they follow a faith or not.. i do and i still say its bigoted Both of the two main faith's in your part of the country I would wager exhibit far more bigotry towards each other regularly.. It's not good whomever is screaming hate at the other 'side', would you agree?" Yes i would agree,i put the post up as i watched the football with a freind and the conversation was about anti- catholics in scotland ,our daughters are freinds and he mentioned that my daughter couldnt marry one of the monarchy and she could not become pm or hold a high up job in the goverment because she is catholic | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic. So its bigoted on religious reasons Have you had one too many drinks?? The monarch is head of the church, how could he or she possibly be Catholic? That's not bigotry. " i dont drink,and if only a protestant can become the monarch well yes i see that as bigoted | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic. So its bigoted on religious reasons Have you had one too many drinks?? The monarch is head of the church, how could he or she possibly be Catholic? That's not bigotry. " So catholics do not count is this country ? | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic. So its bigoted on religious reasons Have you had one too many drinks?? The monarch is head of the church, how could he or she possibly be Catholic? That's not bigotry. So catholics do not count is this country ?" Who said they didn't count? The monarch is the head of The Church of England, so therefore will be Protestant. No other faith at all. | |||
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"Let's be clear. The monarch can't be a Jew or a Muslim or atheist. " He’s a thief, collecting bona vacantia money from dead peoples estate's, reported £61M over a decade Is the sovereign grant not enough for this freeloader | |||
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"Let's be clear. The monarch can't be a Jew or a Muslim or atheist. " But can be a Hindu. | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic. So its bigoted on religious reasons Have you had one too many drinks?? The monarch is head of the church, how could he or she possibly be Catholic? That's not bigotry. i dont drink,and if only a protestant can become the monarch well yes i see that as bigoted" Can a protestant be pope ? | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic. So its bigoted on religious reasons Have you had one too many drinks?? The monarch is head of the church, how could he or she possibly be Catholic? That's not bigotry. i dont drink,and if only a protestant can become the monarch well yes i see that as bigoted Can a protestant be pope ?" Give it time | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic. So its bigoted on religious reasons Have you had one too many drinks?? The monarch is head of the church, how could he or she possibly be Catholic? That's not bigotry. i dont drink,and if only a protestant can become the monarch well yes i see that as bigoted Can a protestant be pope ?" If said protestant believes in Catholic values and teaching, well then yes. Most of the protestant early figures where Catholic so could have in theory went on to be Pope. | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic. So its bigoted on religious reasons Have you had one too many drinks?? The monarch is head of the church, how could he or she possibly be Catholic? That's not bigotry. i dont drink,and if only a protestant can become the monarch well yes i see that as bigoted Can a protestant be pope ? If said protestant believes in Catholic values and teaching, well then yes. Most of the protestant early figures where Catholic so could have in theory went on to be Pope. " Really? I thought protestants were in favour of divorce which was against the Catholic belief...at the time | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic. So its bigoted on religious reasons Have you had one too many drinks?? The monarch is head of the church, how could he or she possibly be Catholic? That's not bigotry. i dont drink,and if only a protestant can become the monarch well yes i see that as bigoted Can a protestant be pope ? If said protestant believes in Catholic values and teaching, well then yes. Most of the protestant early figures where Catholic so could have in theory went on to be Pope. Really? I thought protestants were in favour of divorce which was against the Catholic belief...at the time" Did ye aye | |||
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"But anti-catholicism is ok in the uk ,whats ppls thoughts Who said it's ok? Which particular incidents are you basing this on? A catholic cant be a monarch or pm in this country,are you ok with that ? Boris Johnson is a Catholic, isn't he? Being monarch is also not an available job for 99.9999999999% of us, regardless of religion, or lack of. My mistake about pm,i get your point about the monarchy but if one of them marries a catholic they are banned under the act of settlement from the monarchy Which was amended in 2015. The monarch has to be church of England, obvious reasons why, but the spouse doesn't. Whats the obvious reasons?" Being the head of the church of England | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic. So its bigoted on religious reasons Have you had one too many drinks?? The monarch is head of the church, how could he or she possibly be Catholic? That's not bigotry. i dont drink,and if only a protestant can become the monarch well yes i see that as bigoted" Blame Henry VIII | |||
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"The monarch of the UK is also the head of the Church of England and protector of the faith and therefore protestant. They are indelibly linked. Ergo the monarch cannot be a Catholic. So its bigoted on religious reasons Have you had one too many drinks?? The monarch is head of the church, how could he or she possibly be Catholic? That's not bigotry. i dont drink,and if only a protestant can become the monarch well yes i see that as bigoted Blame Henry VIII " Up the Jacobites | |||
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"How did this creep into the forum? We'll have people belting out The Sash and Come Out Ye Black & Tans before you know it." Free Tibet! | |||
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"How did this creep into the forum? We'll have people belting out The Sash and Come Out Ye Black & Tans before you know it. Free Tibet!" Prefer Free Tit Bite | |||
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"How did this creep into the forum? We'll have people belting out The Sash and Come Out Ye Black & Tans before you know it. Free Tibet! Prefer Free Tit Bite " Free Tibet Free Palestine Free Assange FREE THE NIPPLE | |||
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"And in America: In front of a House Committee on Education 3 different universities can't answer the simple question of: Does calling for the genocide of Jews break your code of conduct? It's fucking mental, people falling over themselves to not tackle antisemitism. " To be fair, the USA has very firm views on freedom of speech and freedom of expression. If they apply policies equally against all forms of ethnicity, religion, nationality, etc. then perhaps it's just a viewpoint they choose. | |||
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"And in America: In front of a House Committee on Education 3 different universities can't answer the simple question of: Does calling for the genocide of Jews break your code of conduct? It's fucking mental, people falling over themselves to not tackle antisemitism. To be fair, the USA has very firm views on freedom of speech and freedom of expression. If they apply policies equally against all forms of ethnicity, religion, nationality, etc. then perhaps it's just a viewpoint they choose." We're not talking about law, it's about their respective code of conducts. They most defintely do not apply any 'free speech' policies across the board. | |||
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"I'm pagan is that hated on " Pagan is not a specific religion. It's a generalisation for 1000's of different religions. Any religion outside the 3 Abrahamic religions is labeled as pagan. So which one are you? If you happen to know lol | |||
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"In and of themselves neither are illegal, nor should they be. People should have the right to dislike or disagree with whatever they like. Acting on it, however, could (and should) be different." Thank you. That was what was said in the Race Relations Bill debates in the 1960s. "People must be free to think what they like, no matter how ugly those thoughts may be... We cannot legislate to make people love one another. Nor can we change their hearts. But what we can do is outlaw the actions that flow from prejudice..." | |||
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"No, it's illegal to discriminate against someone on ground of their religion. Religion is one of the protected characteristics in the UK Equalities Act 2010. The right not to be discriminated against is in the UK Human Rights Act 1998. It's also in the non-EU European Convention on Human Rights. And the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Since the Council of Europe that runs the European Court of Human Rights is non-EU, the European Union has its own. It's called the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union." Your first line sums all this up completely... Discriminate against. This is an action, this acting upong ones thinking towards another. Many seem to be confusing between freedom of thought and passive speech and an action. | |||
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"I'm pagan is that hated on " I guess that sits on which pagan religion you opt to follow? I'm a TST member, though not pagan I do follow afew pagan traditions such as Christmas. I find alot of people are hateful towards TST as they don't understand it | |||
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"I'm pagan is that hated on Pagan is not a specific religion. It's a generalisation for 1000's of different religions. Any religion outside the 3 Abrahamic religions is labeled as pagan. So which one are you? If you happen to know lol " Does a specific kind of paganism need a name? To me a loose belief in nature, fertility, the sun, is no less credible than some God in the sky telling people to wear hats, don't eat this or that, snip bits off their genitals etc | |||
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