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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm soo sorry! Really I am!

What's going on with the doctor? I had such high hopes for a female doctor and I'm sorry but Jodie Whittaker your doctor is just a really bad, severely flat impersonation of mat Smith's. I can no longer watch after your poorly written first series and now the new years episode was frankly rubbish we turned off half way through due to boredom, with such poor story lines, companions who are dull as dish water and nothing to fire the imagination.

Till the next incarnation, let's please have a reboot to the David Tennant / mat smith era where doctor who was great! Full of interest, twist n turns and a doctor who that kept you in suspense.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

Nobody will beat the David Tennant / Billie Piper combo for me. They were brilliant.

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By *olex99Man
over a year ago

Hull

Give me Pond or Clara any day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I gave up after the first few episodes of the last season - the writing was embarrassingly bad and patronising to the kids in the audience, let alone the adults. I've no issue with Whittaker but she's been very badly served by the writing.

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I'm not keen, but at least this series looks to be less aimed at children than the last.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nobody will beat the David Tennant / Billie Piper combo for me. They were brilliant."

The love they have for each other,

Mat smith and Amy pond and River song,

Even Peter capaldi River song and missy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't watched it since Jon Pertwee!

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By *ecretpantyTV/TS
over a year ago

lisburn

Baker was the one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tonight's episode started slow but was a cracker. I'm not sure why people get wound up we all know the cycle, everyone slagged off Matt Smith until he went, same with Capaldi who has now been redeemed.

Just dont watch it if you think its shit

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

We gave up after the first episode, same with Capaldi.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Capaldi was great, just the stories became lame and was never blessed with many good ones, Jodies era is just poor all round unfortunately and not showing any real promise of redemption.

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By *awk90Man
over a year ago

Amsterdam

In my opinion, Moffatt ruined Doctor Who. It started at the end of the Tennant era basically, and then just got worse!

He writes good episodes, but then he tries to write and interweave the whole series, and it just ends up being ridiculous...

But, 9 and 10 are my first Doctors, so I'm probably partial to the new good old days

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

I don't see what the fuss is about I quite like this incarnation as I liked the others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's too glossy now and a whose who of actors lol. Much better 70s/80s love classic doctor who x

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"I'm soo sorry! Really I am!

Till the next incarnation, let's please have a reboot to the David Tennant / mat smith era where doctor who was great! Full of interest, twist n turns and a doctor who that kept you in suspense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Avid fan for a long time, but I stopped watching when they bought in a female doctor. PC gone too far, for me the doctor will always be a man. No need to have a woman playing the role.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Tennant was peak Doctor Who for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Time travel. Pah!

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By *aughtyLondonGuyMan
over a year ago

london

I agree

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

Today’s episode was much better than episode one and I actually think it was the best episode that Jodie acted

I must say I love the new master.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tom Baker was my Doctor but from new who definitely David.

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By *exfordMan
over a year ago

discombobulated land

Knock knock....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm intrigued to learn how the master has returned, though its tiresome that they keep rehashing the bad guys, they need to come up with something new that's more challenging for the dr

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

I've been unable to connect with the authority that The Doctor can give off from her. I will admit I have not watched entire season to fully comment.

Ignoring the old guard as they were certainly a different era.

Tennant and Smith were amazing at playing an old soul within a young person's body. They were fun and comedic, had a curiosity about them but they also played the other side of the doctor extremely well. The internal turmoil and rage beneath the surface along with the commanding authority he should be giving off.

She can easily pull off the comedic side of things, she has a natural bubbly nature which works well in that side of the role. She really can not even begin to compete with the fierce side of the doctor.

With that said, it's not all down to her. The writing and the direction it is going in is just... Not right.

Tennant's run was the pinnacle. It had everything. Smith's still great but you could sense a slight shift toward a younger audience at times. I didn't watch Capaldi - he would always be Sid's dad from season 1 skins to me and it felt strange

Whittaker's run for me does not have the same type of vibe it once had. It seems a little too childish in what is being put across. Note I use childish for lack of a better word.

I don't mind that the doctor is a woman (well I do but that is due to changing what is established more than a woman in the lead). I just don't feel the doctor is being correctly portrayed. Through writing and acting.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

She's a good actress, ill-served by poor scripts and carrying three loads of entirely unnecessary dead weight.

Get woke. Go broke.

It's an oversimplification but there's always truth in it when the "wokeness" (not a bad thing in itself) is rammed down your throat.

It buggered up a large part of S.2 of ST-Discovery.

And yet, Seth McFarlane carries it off with ease in his scripts for The Orville.

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By *urious couple22Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"Nobody will beat the David Tennant / Billie Piper combo for me. They were brilliant."

Have to agree no one can beat David Tennant he was amzing as the doctor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sad to say worst ever Dr. Direst of companions, wtf were the shows producers thinking???

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By *esse1972Man
over a year ago

Rugeley

I like it

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

"I'm soo sorry! Really I am!

Till the next incarnation, let's please have a reboot to the David Tennant / mat smith era where doctor who was great! Full of interest, twist n turns and a doctor who that kept you in suspense.

I like Jodie Whittaker, I think its nice to have a doctor that I can lech over. They have suffered bad writing for a long time to the point that I actually kind of miss the campness of Russel T Davies. Moffat wrote some excellent stand alone but just failed when he took the tiller.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tom Baker is THE true time lord!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really can't get into it anymore.

For me, the rot started with Capaldi, but I put it more down to the show producers than him - things went the same way with Sherlock, what began brilliantly just lost it's way.

Matt Smith was a brilliant Doctor, once he'd found his feet, and I'd probably rank him as the best, if we hadn't had the spectacular David Tennant - Oh yes!!

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

I haven't watched it in a long, long time, cheap special effects and far too much shouting put me off it.

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By *artyanna16TV/TS
over a year ago

seacroft

Well i watched it for the first time last night , and i thought she was fabulous and the show was great , the guy who plays her nemesis , was soectacularly hammily villainous too, with just a hint of a nod to S&m . “ on your knees , call me by my name, !” Yes master!”

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

For those that have got annoyed with the Doctor, I would suggest you watch the latest episode!!!!

It’s brilliant

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By *ctionnotwords69Man
over a year ago

ENFIELD

"For those that have got annoyed with the Doctor, I would suggest you watch the latest episode!!!!

It’s brilliant "

Most certainly was!!!....and they managed to top the return of the Master in ep. 1....so many surprises last night!!....can't wait for next week's episode!!!

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Yes, it is definitely getting better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The dialogue is to long winded and the pacing is wrong.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

"Yes, it is definitely getting better

After tonight's episode? Really?

It's a pale shadow of the entertainment it used to be. She's fine. It's the hangers on and the poor scripts she doesn't need.

Sadly, it's going to limp on like this for at least one more season, perhaps two - because any criticism of its mediocrity will be dismissed as an attack on its diversity.

The writers know that, so they really aren't putting the effort in - and it shows.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, it is definitely getting better

After tonight's episode? Really?

It's a pale shadow of the entertainment it used to be. She's fine. It's the hangers on and the poor scripts she doesn't need.

Sadly, it's going to limp on like this for at least one more season, perhaps two - because any criticism of its mediocrity will be dismissed as an attack on its diversity.

The writers know that, so they really aren't putting the effort in - and it shows."

They’re trying overly hard to be woke these days, nowt wrong with being diverse of course and we should all embrace it, but since Chibnall became show runner it’s almost shoe-horned in with big neon-flashing signs and so ‘in yer face’ that it starts to detract from the rest of the story telling.

Doctor Who has always been ahead of the game and inclusive and diverse, so it’s nothing new in that respect, but it’s literally trying TOO hard to be super-woke now, imho (but hey, no doubt I’m just a bigot)

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"The dialogue is to long winded and the pacing is wrong. "

This...not enough running around too much lengthy exposition

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

methinks it is time to retire the doctor

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I didn't bother watching it tonight, I did last week and thought how disappointed the die hard fans must be!!

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Matt Smith was the last good one. I gave up during capaldi time, the stories were bad, confusing for most of the episode then wrapped up in 5 mins at the end. And Clara, found her so annoying.

Gave the new regime a chance especially after loving broadchurch, but it was dire. So gave up mid way through the first series. Whittaker was annoying, random shouting, the acting from the companions was like being in the timber aisle at B&Q. Needs an extended break.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chibnall and Co didn't get the memo when taking over Who.

There's no love, no belief in what they're writing. Enid Blyton stories have more depth and character development. They're simply writing to try and push modern day views onto the viewers. Yes, we get it. People are gay, and now feel a lot safer expressing themselves and letting the world know. And good on them! But this doesn't mean we need to sacrifice an program and its history simply to get this point across. Same reasons why James Bond shouldn't be a woman.

The first 2 episodes of this season were good, but only due in part to the return of the Master (acted brilliantly may I add). The story itself was tosh. As has been every other one this season. Last night's was just.... Gash. Even the week before with the Silly Rhino Judoon people.

"Oh, we can't come up with a decent story, so let's just introduce an entire new previously unseen version of the Dr which will shit all over the History and Canon of Dr Who... Because Reasons".

There's too many people, too little of the Dr being the Dr (which is a shame as I really think given better material, Jodie could be a brilliant Dr) and I really honestly don't give one for the companions. They can't act, and they bring nothing to the mediocre stories. And to try and do all this in the space of 50 mins on a Sunday night... Disaster. Let's not forget, Classic Serials were usually 4 episodes for a story, spread out across a couple of weeks.

Shame that Chibnall probably isn't a member of Fab and won't see what people have written here. Because God knows he's been ignoring the fan base on every single other medium in the known universe!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I didn't bother watching it tonight, I did last week and thought how disappointed the die hard fans must be!!"

Same here. I think Whittaker was an excellent choice but everything around her is abysmal. Kind of sad that I am not excited to watch it any more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think Jodie Whittaker is very good, but last night's episode was remarkably preachy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Utterly dreadful.

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By *iamonddave84Man
over a year ago

Hereford

I haven’t watched the last few series but watched this I just feel it’s lost it’s drama episode seem flat and the plot gets lost or never gets going and trying to hard to tick pc boxes and what was the random appearance of captain jack about? I do like Bradley Walsh as an assistant though

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

"They’re trying overly hard to be woke these days, nowt wrong with being diverse of course and we should all embrace it, but since Chibnall became show runner it’s almost shoe-horned in with big neon-flashing signs and so ‘in yer face’ that it starts to detract from the rest of the story telling.

Yep. This. Don't think it makes you a bigot.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

" ... and what was the random appearance of captain jack about?"

It was a ridiculously transparent attempt to reverse a slide in viewing figures and divert criticism.

It didn't work. Never seen Barrowman that OTT/Hammy in all his appearances and it was cringeworthy stuff.

I don't really like the slogan but 'Get Woke Go Broke' does, sadly, apply in Dr Who's case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are a lot of people on this thread putting a lot of time and energy in to watching and critiquing a program they apparently dont like...

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

"I'm soo sorry! Really I am!

Till the next incarnation, let's please have a reboot to the David Tennant / mat smith era where doctor who was great! Full of interest, twist n turns and a doctor who that kept you in suspense.

Erm it’s a kids programme...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm soo sorry! Really I am!

Till the next incarnation, let's please have a reboot to the David Tennant / mat smith era where doctor who was great! Full of interest, twist n turns and a doctor who that kept you in suspense.

Erm it’s a kids programme..."

I'm glad it's not just me

. I think a lot of people are missing that

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

I must say I found yesterday’s episode a bit meh. It was definitely a filler episode and added nothing to the arc of the series. It did feel a bit preachy at times

I don’t mind the doctor it’s her annoying ‘fam’. Get ride of at least 2 of them. Then adjust the writing a bit

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By *arehamMan
over a year ago

handforth

Matt smith and Karen gillen were the best she was as fit as fuck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

christopher eccleston or david Tennant they were the best I've not watched it since the first episode of Peter capaldi's doctor it was rubbish

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By *r_BigHeadMan
over a year ago

The Naughty Step (aka Northampton)

I always find myself a little disappointed with a new doctor. But, when I go back and watch them back again (older series) I see them in a different light and they go up in my opinion.

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By *northernsoulMan
over a year ago

Manchester

I am seriously loving this series, it's a massive improvement on the last one. And that twist with 'Ruth' - can't wait to see where that goes.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

"I'm soo sorry! Really I am!

Till the next incarnation, let's please have a reboot to the David Tennant / mat smith era where doctor who was great! Full of interest, twist n turns and a doctor who that kept you in suspense.

Erm it’s a kids programme..."

It's not, it is a family show. A lot of what goes on... Used to go on, was quite complex for kids to understand, hell a large number of adults would struggle to grasp what would be going on. There are se seriously powerful and emotional moments that have happened within it, some far, more mature and relatable to adults to a lot of shows aimed at solely adults.

There is a huge difference between kids programme and a show aimed at the family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm soo sorry! Really I am!

Till the next incarnation, let's please have a reboot to the David Tennant / mat smith era where doctor who was great! Full of interest, twist n turns and a doctor who that kept you in suspense.

I totally agree with you, i lived for Dr Who, David Tennant being my favourite. I love the chsracters back then too. Ive sadly stopped watching the new Doctor, i cant dont with her or the cast and episides. Shes also always spoutjng off about feminism and to me its killing the show. I too had hi hopes. Regenerate soon or I believe it be the end of the show.

I remember every episode off Christopher Eccleston / David Tennant and most of Matt Smth. Then the writters changed. Im heart broken tbh. It was my favourite show xx

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Kids program? There's no way a kid is understanding what was going on in half of Moffatt's run.

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By *rctopusMan
over a year ago

Borehamwood

There was always at least two classics a year under Rusty and Moffat. I've nothing against a female Doctor, but Chinballs is a big step down as far as writing talent goes. Quite liked some stories this year, though.

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