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The Fairytale of New York so called " controversy "

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The world has gone mad. Best Xmas song ever

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By *xperimentalistMan
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

Surely it is just about a poor bundle of sticks that would be useless for creating a good fire and warming you against the harsh New York winter??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever "

I agree that it's part of the song, its 32 years old and people need to stop looking for things that offend them.

Driving Home For Christmas by Chris Rea is the best song though

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I like it. I'm not offended by it.

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By *eith28Man
over a year ago

uxbridge


"I like it. I'm not offended by it."

I don’t have an issue with ‘.Faggot’ but the use of ‘slut’ is gratuitous with no artistic merit.

Best Christmas song is Greg Lake - I believe in Father Christmas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Banning words on the radio won't stop them being used by people nor inventing new slurs. It's all context anyway.

Time we banned the uber -sensitive.

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

sheffield

Bloody health and safety again. Next the will be telling me I can’t have bum bum sexi time because i used the word Bum in the free adds

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Surely it is just about a poor bundle of sticks that would be useless for creating a good fire and warming you against the harsh New York winter?? "

No ... I think it's about a poor quality meat and offal ball

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh for goodness sake

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Surely it is just about a poor bundle of sticks that would be useless for creating a good fire and warming you against the harsh New York winter??

No ... I think it's about a poor quality meat and offal ball "
Yummy , can't beat Faggots Mash n Carrots !!

Proper Food

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"The world has gone mad. Best Xmas song ever "

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

I think it is a sad reflection of the fact that people now feel they have to appear to be squeaky clean and not cause any offence to anyone in any way.

It’s a great song and if the word is viewed in the context that it is used there is only offence if you’re looking to be offended.

In my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thinks it’s offensive to maggots. I’m gonna complain. Who do I complain to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nothing to do with health and safety. get your moaning correct. it's political correctness

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

It's a song, aimed at a certain period in time, when those words were part of the language.

I don't like the word faggot, wouldn't use it, but in the context of the song, I don't find it offensive.

And, yes.

It is the best Christmas song ever.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"It's a song, aimed at a certain period in time, when those words were part of the language.

I don't like the word faggot, wouldn't use it, but in the context of the song, I don't find it offensive.

And, yes.

It is the best Christmas song ever. "

Yay xx

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Looks at it subjectively. Nope not offensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely brilliant song, it’s my favourite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thinks it’s offensive to maggots. I’m gonna complain. Who do I complain to?"

I’m taking compliments

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"I thinks it’s offensive to maggots. I’m gonna complain. Who do I complain to?

I’m taking compliments "

Compliments Cheeky?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thinks it’s offensive to maggots. I’m gonna complain. Who do I complain to?

I’m taking compliments

Compliments Cheeky? "

Complaints, I meant complaints

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"I thinks it’s offensive to maggots. I’m gonna complain. Who do I complain to?

I’m taking compliments

Compliments Cheeky?

Complaints, I meant complaints "

I wish to complain about the poor standard of proof reading

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"I thinks it’s offensive to maggots. I’m gonna complain. Who do I complain to?

I’m taking compliments

Compliments Cheeky?

Complaints, I meant complaints

I wish to complain about the poor standard of proof reading "

PS ... nice tits (in case you really did want compliments)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thinks it’s offensive to maggots. I’m gonna complain. Who do I complain to?

I’m taking compliments

Compliments Cheeky?

Complaints, I meant complaints

I wish to complain about the poor standard of proof reading "

Complaint filed in the glib bin

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"I thinks it’s offensive to maggots. I’m gonna complain. Who do I complain to?

I’m taking compliments

Compliments Cheeky?

Complaints, I meant complaints

I wish to complain about the poor standard of proof reading

Complaint filed in the glib bin "

I do hope it was glibly tossed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever "

Best Christmas song, ever, yes. Maybe it shouldn’t be played because he calls her an “old slut on junk, lying there almost dead with a drop in your bed.”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliant song, some people are just looking for reasons to be offended x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One of the best Christmas songs ever made

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Brilliant song, some people are just looking for reasons to be offended x "

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By *xperimentalistMan
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

If they really want to be offended then they should listen to Christmas Duel by the Hives and Cyndi Lauper, that would be offensive to some, personally I find it funny

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"One of the best Christmas songs ever made "

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By *j69funCouple
over a year ago

kildare

Best Christmas song

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Really? Which djs?

That's just ridiculous!!! It's a great song.

I'm more offended by Michael bloody buble!!

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Really? Which djs?

That's just ridiculous!!! It's a great song.

I'm more offended by Michael bloody buble!!"

Oh god yes , dont hear from him all year and then , bang , every Xmas he regails us all with his bland shite .

Hes the new Cliff Richard .

Agreed Miss Lick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nooooooobody is offended

The Daily Mail is feeding you lieeeeees

P.S also nobody wants Santa to be gender neutral, and we don’t want snow people. The end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My local radio station still plays the song, but with the word faggot edited out.

Personally I dont see the need to. It's been played on the radio Christmas after Christmas for the past 30 odd years, so why all the fuss now ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nooooooobody is offended

The Daily Mail is feeding you lieeeeees

P.S also nobody wants Santa to be gender neutral, and we don’t want snow people. The end"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My local radio station still plays the song, but with the word faggot edited out.

Personally I dont see the need to. It's been played on the radio Christmas after Christmas for the past 30 odd years, so why all the fuss now ?"

Cause it’s a swear word sort of, for as long as I can remember its been edited out when played on the radio. I have a few Christmas CDs that have it edited out as well

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Nooooooobody is offended

The Daily Mail is feeding you lieeeeees

P.S also nobody wants Santa to be gender neutral, and we don’t want snow people. The end"
Here Here Queeny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The world has gone mad. Best Xmas song ever "

Yep totally agree, a sizeable chunk of the world is completely off its head one day we won't be able to talk to each other at all

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

I'm just as concerned about

"Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way"

What’s with this song making people feel like they have to “jingle all the way”?

Seriously? People need to know that they have the right to revoke their consent to jingle at any moment, even if they’ve already starting jingling, and even if the person they’re jingling with is someone they’ve jingled with before.

And

What about "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas"

Seriously ?How racist is that !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever "

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

When the BBC banned Relax it shot to number one. Banning it will probably make it more popular.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

Well-meaning but misguided. It's a song about a couple who fight a lot and call each other names. It's not condoning anything.

A different contraversy is that Shane McGowan doesn't play the piano but they fiddled the video to make it look like he did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can’t beat faggots simmered in onion gravy with peas and buttery mashed potatoes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shite song anyway

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Can’t beat faggots simmered in onion gravy with peas and buttery mashed potatoes."

Agreed. Lush .

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

It's a word used in the context of the song so no I don't think it's offensive. Its in the same way Dylan uses the word N****r in his song Hurricane.

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By *airytaleOfNewPorkMan
over a year ago

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They better leave my damn name alone the bastards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a word used in the context of the song so no I don't think it's offensive. Its in the same way Dylan uses the word N****r in his song Hurricane."

Same story telling tradition of songwriting. Tbh the thing that makes me saddest is that Shane McGowan wrote so many songs so much better than this one but this is the one he's most famous for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So can we also ban the flowing then :

The 12 Days of Christmas, with its celebration of killing game birds, surely it is offensive to vegans?

We Wish You a Merry Christmas, surely it alienates people without kin?

And the bullying that goes off in Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer, purely offensive and disgusting behaviour.

It's as pathetic as that if you want it to be!

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Well I use the faggot and no one has ever taken offence..

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field


"My local radio station still plays the song, but with the word faggot edited out.

Personally I dont see the need to. It's been played on the radio Christmas after Christmas for the past 30 odd years, so why all the fuss now ?

Cause it’s a swear word sort of, for as long as I can remember its been edited out when played on the radio. I have a few Christmas CDs that have it edited out as well"

Never heard the word 'Arse'edited out since it was first played?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would prefer it to be referred to as a festive holiday song, not a Christmas song, as it is a more inclusive and therefore less offensive term.

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By *ts_your_boy_mMan
over a year ago

Dover


"Yummy , can't beat Faggots Mash n Carrots !!

Proper Food "

Try them with golden rice out of a packet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would prefer it to be referred to as a festive holiday song, not a Christmas song, as it is a more inclusive and therefore less offensive term."

"festive" - relating to a festival, especially Christmas. Still offensive. "holiday" - not everyone gets time off, so offensive to those who don't.

"song" - offensive to those whose job is to write instrumentals.

You can either say everything, or say nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a change in perception, faggot was a slang word for a lazy person in the past. People just want something to piss and moan about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The pc brigade get everywhere, this is the best Christmas song ever!

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By *urls and DressesWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near here

One of my gay friends hates the word faggot, he finds it offensive after being called it for years. However he loves the song and declares it one of his favourite.

Best to not get offended on other people’s behalf!

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By *ynetaurusMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

Fucking nanny state But old Lou Reed slipped one through on " Walk on The Wild Side" about a tranny includes the line.." Even when she was giving head...ya missed that one ya eejits

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Get a life spoil everything ...minority rule again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I personally don't like the song but the lyrics don't offend me.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

I once told an American that I smoked 40 fags a day.

He didn't half give me a funny look.

As for the song, long may it continue. Both as a great Christmas song and in memory of the lovely but tragic Kirsty McColl.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"I would prefer it to be referred to as a festive holiday song, not a Christmas song, as it is a more inclusive and therefore less offensive term."

The bells rang out on "Christmas Day" not holiday or festive day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I once told an American that I smoked 40 fags a day.

He didn't half give me a funny look.

As for the song, long may it continue. Both as a great Christmas song and in memory of the lovely but tragic Kirsty McColl."

At least he didn't ask if he could bum a fag, that really could have caused confusion

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"I once told an American that I smoked 40 fags a day.

He didn't half give me a funny look.

As for the song, long may it continue. Both as a great Christmas song and in memory of the lovely but tragic Kirsty McColl.

At least he didn't ask if he could bum a fag, that really could have caused confusion "

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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich

Just checked on Google, Fagot = a bundle of sticks bound together as fuel" , are we not allowed to offend sticks ? Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just checked on Google, Fagot = a bundle of sticks bound together as fuel" , are we not allowed to offend sticks ? Xx "
There are a few definitions of the word, only one is deemed offensive. In the song, the word is not directed at a homosexual man so there's not really any direct intentional insult to the LGBT community. It's also really hard to find a word that rhymes with "maggot" that would make any sense to the song

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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich


"Just checked on Google, Fagot = a bundle of sticks bound together as fuel" , are we not allowed to offend sticks ? Xx There are a few definitions of the word, only one is deemed offensive. In the song, the word is not directed at a homosexual man so there's not really any direct intentional insult to the LGBT community. It's also really hard to find a word that rhymes with "maggot" that would make any sense to the song "

What about Arab?? Or would that be worse? Xx or how about carrot ? Think that would be ok x

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's my favourite and to sing it in public

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would prefer it to be referred to as a festive holiday song, not a Christmas song, as it is a more inclusive and therefore less offensive term."

Surely you're taking the piss?

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By *DW1983Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen, Leeds, Sheffield


"It's a song, aimed at a certain period in time, when those words were part of the language.

I don't like the word faggot, wouldn't use it, but in the context of the song, I don't find it offensive.

And, yes.

It is the best Christmas song ever. "

Pretty much sums up what I was going to say. Not a word I'd use, and possibly not the one they'd write if they were writing the song now, but it is what it is, and I'm not offended by it in the context.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

I wonder if anyone who may have complained have any idea of what the bands name may relate to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would prefer it to be referred to as a festive holiday song, not a Christmas song, as it is a more inclusive and therefore less offensive term.

Surely you're taking the piss? "

Exactly

The PC authoritarians have gone so far off the edge that its hard to tell if its even parody anymore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely it is just about a poor bundle of sticks that would be useless for creating a good fire and warming you against the harsh New York winter?? "

Unless it's for burning a witch.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field


"Surely it is just about a poor bundle of sticks that would be useless for creating a good fire and warming you against the harsh New York winter??

Unless it's for burning a witch. "

It depends on which witch you're burning- can you tell which witch is which?

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever "

absolutely bonkers. borderline pathetic

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

If it us such an offensive word, then why did they play it last year? Last year it wasn’t offensive, but this year it is?

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By *urple-roseWoman
over a year ago

Stoke

This is the 2nd Christmas song I’ve heard about being banned because someone got offended. Baby it’s cold outside has been interpreted in a way that offended someone, says more about them if that’s what they picture when they hear it lol

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I love faggot, gravy and chips..

Gravy will be offensive next year presumably..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder if anyone who may have complained have any idea of what the bands name may relate to? "

A very good point

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would prefer it to be referred to as a festive holiday song, not a Christmas song, as it is a more inclusive and therefore less offensive term.

Surely you're taking the piss?

Exactly

The PC authoritarians have gone so far off the edge that its hard to tell if its even parody anymore. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nooooooobody is offended

The Daily Mail is feeding you lieeeeees

P.S also nobody wants Santa to be gender neutral, and we don’t want snow people. The end"

Hmmm snow people? Is that an option? I think I want that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nooooooobody is offended

The Daily Mail is feeding you lieeeeees

P.S also nobody wants Santa to be gender neutral, and we don’t want snow people. The end

Hmmm snow people? Is that an option? I think I want that "

The one the boys next door did last year was definitely a snowman!

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

Virtuosa

As many have already said, nobody is offended. I've been at a Christmas party and the kitchen was full of gay guys singing that particular line very loudly

It just more divisive twaddle that seems to be peddled out every so often

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As many have already said, nobody is offended. I've been at a Christmas party and the kitchen was full of gay guys singing that particular line very loudly

It just more divisive twaddle that seems to be peddled out every so often "

And more often than not by people being offended for the people who it should offend who aren’t even offended!!!!

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

Virtuosa


"As many have already said, nobody is offended. I've been at a Christmas party and the kitchen was full of gay guys singing that particular line very loudly

It just more divisive twaddle that seems to be peddled out every so often

And more often than not by people being offended for the people who it should offend who aren’t even offended!!!! "

Couldn't have said it better myself

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton

Best Christmas song is Santa Claus you cunt

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

I love that tune

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By *ineMan
over a year ago

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By *anana JoeMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

Some people will always look for something to be offended by its sad really.

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham, North Yorkshire and can travel

Jeeeez whatever next!! People need to get a grip! It's turning into a nanny state.

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

Music, like other matters, is subjective.

I cannot abide Tale of New York, but then again, I'm much older than the generation who grew up around that song, whereas I grew up with more traditional Christmas music (as a member of formal choirs) plus growing up with Xmas tunes from the 50's to 70's, within which there was such variety to choose from.

Everyone will vote differently for their favourite song, Xmas tune, film etc. You'll never get a clear winner that suits everyone.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Best Christmas song is Santa Claus you cunt "
love that too

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By *ineMan
over a year ago

In cave behind a waterfall on a hill


"Best Christmas song is Santa Claus you cunt "

Dont know that one. Do you want to hum it for me?

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Best Christmas song is Santa Claus you cunt

Dont know that one. Do you want to hum it for me? "

It must be on YouTube somewhere .

It's by some Aussie bloke , cant remember his name

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

One more week and no more crap christmas songs ......Can't wait

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Best Christmas song is Santa Claus you cunt

Dont know that one. Do you want to hum it for me?

It must be on YouTube somewhere .

It's by some Aussie bloke , cant remember his name "

Kevin bloody Wilson

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Best Christmas song is Santa Claus you cunt

Dont know that one. Do you want to hum it for me?

It must be on YouTube somewhere .

It's by some Aussie bloke , cant remember his name "

Kevin Bloody Wilson ... Hey Santa Claus

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Best Christmas song is Santa Claus you cunt

Dont know that one. Do you want to hum it for me?

It must be on YouTube somewhere .

It's by some Aussie bloke , cant remember his name

Kevin Bloody Wilson ... Hey Santa Claus"

The classic chorus of ...

Hey Santa Claus you cunt, where's me fuckin' bike?

I've unwrapped all this other junk and there's nothing that I like

I wrote you a fuckin' letter and I come to see you twice

You worn out geriatric fart, you forgot me fuckin' bike

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to say, I heard it on radio 2 this morning, so I don’t think it’s been banned.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Best Christmas song is Santa Claus you cunt

Dont know that one. Do you want to hum it for me?

It must be on YouTube somewhere .

It's by some Aussie bloke , cant remember his name

Kevin bloody Wilson "

Ah yes , that's the cunt !! Cheers

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Loving the version of this by Peat and Diesel, adapted for Stornoway

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

The fairy in fairytale must be offensive to someone

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton


"Best Christmas song is Santa Claus you cunt

Dont know that one. Do you want to hum it for me?

It must be on YouTube somewhere .

It's by some Aussie bloke , cant remember his name

Kevin Bloody Wilson ... Hey Santa Claus

The classic chorus of ...

Hey Santa Claus you cunt, where's me fuckin' bike?

I've unwrapped all this other junk and there's nothing that I like

I wrote you a fuckin' letter and I come to see you twice

You worn out geriatric fart, you forgot me fuckin' bike"

Hey Santa Claus you cunt where's my fucking pram

cos I'm the little girl who sat down on your hand I'll give you fucking ho ho ho you forgot my fucking pram .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever

I agree that it's part of the song, its 32 years old and people need to stop looking for things that offend them.

Driving Home For Christmas by Chris Rea is the best song though

"

You wouldn’t say that if you drive to the north east for Christmas

I always get stuck behind Mr Rea in that clapped out old car that he’s been driving home for years now!!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean

Hello ........

C.B.A reading everything above so apols is someone already said this BUT....

Get over yourself. Faggot = a bundle of sticks.......

Faggots were old women who collected the sticks......

Faggot was a derisory term for these old , scruffbags......... it's NOT anti gay ........ Jesus.......

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean

Oh no I said ........ Jesus......

The Christians will get me now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's miraculous the man can speak, let alone be comprehensible. I query if he's been sober since he was 15....

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

He is a troubled genius..

Great singer in his day

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By *ixfootinthecityMan
over a year ago

London

They should change the lyrics to:

“You scumbag, you maggot

You taped over Taggart”

That way you get an even greater sense of 80s nostalgia, and we also no longer have to endure the Daily Mail using it to try and stir up hate.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Even the word slut got silenced out...

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"They should change the lyrics to:

“You scumbag, you maggot

You taped over Taggart”

That way you get an even greater sense of 80s nostalgia, and we also no longer have to endure the Daily Mail using it to try and stir up hate. "

There's go'nna be Moidah!

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"Even the word slut got silenced out..."

Did the silence the word junk?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Even the word slut got silenced out...

Did the silence the word junk?"

Yes

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By *hroatQueen_CATV/TS
over a year ago

Carlisle

It's Irish slang! I'm half Irish and can't believe anyone is offended by it and the context.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The range of language used in modern day music is off!

Children have pretty much heard it all.

Even Roald Dahl made use of the word 'slut' in his Revolting Rhymes :s

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great Xmas choon btw!

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Buy the album, CD or tape and if you’re one of those youngster modern type, download the fucker.

It’s on the album ‘if I should fall from the grace of God’ and Thousands are sailings is a personal favourite.

But Christ almighty who’s listening to it on the radio…gramophone and gets bothered over it

Not Me

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By *not123Couple
over a year ago

sp1

My favourite Christmas song ... idiots!!

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By *hroatQueen_CATV/TS
over a year ago

Carlisle


"Buy the album, CD or tape and if you’re one of those youngster modern type, download the fucker.

It’s on the album ‘if I should fall from the grace of God’ and Thousands are sailings is a personal favourite.

But Christ almighty who’s listening to it on the radio…gramophone and gets bothered over it

Not Me "
So true! x

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Great song.. no controversy...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My only opinion is that the song is massively over rated.

Actually calling it shit would be over rated.

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By *oeBeansMan
over a year ago

Derby

I've heard it a number of times on the radio this year. I think they replaced the F word with haggard but don't think it's been cancelled like most people think

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By *rumpyMcFuckNugget OP   Man
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Well random thread resurrection of mine award goes to this haha

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By *oeBeansMan
over a year ago

Derby


"Well random thread resurrection of mine award goes to this haha "

Ahhh note to self: must read time stamp

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I've heard it a number of times on the radio this year. I think they replaced the F word with haggard but don't think it's been cancelled like most people think"

It's akin to state censorship

The word is faggot

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By *oeBeansMan
over a year ago

Derby


"I've heard it a number of times on the radio this year. I think they replaced the F word with haggard but don't think it's been cancelled like most people think

It's akin to state censorship

The word is faggot"

Meh, it's a radio edit just like with all songs that have controversial words in it. State censorship would be banning the actual version on YouTube or Spotify within the UK.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Nothing controversial.. I eat them all the time.. lovely with mash and gravy

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I've heard it a number of times on the radio this year. I think they replaced the F word with haggard but don't think it's been cancelled like most people think

It's akin to state censorship

The word is faggot"

It's really not. Nearly every song that has swear words in it has a radio edit so it can be played in the daytime.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I've heard it a number of times on the radio this year. I think they replaced the F word with haggard but don't think it's been cancelled like most people think

It's akin to state censorship

The word is faggot

It's really not. Nearly every song that has swear words in it has a radio edit so it can be played in the daytime. "

In fact, the radio edit of Eminem songs even censor out the words abort and drugs .

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By *ylvie 888Woman
over a year ago

Cleethorpes


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever

I agree that it's part of the song, its 32 years old and people need to stop looking for things that offend them.

Driving Home For Christmas by Chris Rea is the best song though

"

Agree

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever "

Shane McGowan has also said he doesn't give a fuck if people censor it, he just doesn't agree.

So if the artist doesn't care, why do other people who have nothing to do with the song argue so strongly about it?

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By *ickeyblueeyes7Man
over a year ago

newport

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By *ickeyblueeyes7Man
over a year ago

newport


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever "

Best Christmas song is Die Hard no wait that’s a film

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton

An estimated 5.2M children die from preventable diseases each year and THIS makes you angry?

Wow.

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By *ickeyblueeyes7Man
over a year ago

newport


"I like it. I'm not offended by it.

I don’t have an issue with ‘.Faggot’ but the use of ‘slut’ is gratuitous with no artistic merit.

Best Christmas song is Greg Lake - I believe in Father Christmas. "

Agree with you on Greg Lake it’s the best Christmas song and not over played like all the others

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By *oeBeansMan
over a year ago

Derby


"An estimated 5.2M children die from preventable diseases each year and THIS makes you angry?

Wow. "

While I like the sentiment, it does seem like hyperbole. What can the angry people do about dying children?

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton


"An estimated 5.2M children die from preventable diseases each year and THIS makes you angry?

Wow.

While I like the sentiment, it does seem like hyperbole. What can the angry people do about dying children?"

The same as they can do about a censored song methinks….. nothing or something that choice is theirs

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By *oeBeansMan
over a year ago

Derby


"An estimated 5.2M children die from preventable diseases each year and THIS makes you angry?

Wow.

While I like the sentiment, it does seem like hyperbole. What can the angry people do about dying children?

The same as they can do about a censored song methinks….. nothing or something that choice is theirs "

Yeah, that's true. I think people would rather go for the small "victories" that are easy to change rather than the meaningful things that they deem too big

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By *ed VoluptaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral.


"An estimated 5.2M children die from preventable diseases each year and THIS makes you angry?

Wow. "

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton


"An estimated 5.2M children die from preventable diseases each year and THIS makes you angry?

Wow.

While I like the sentiment, it does seem like hyperbole. What can the angry people do about dying children?

The same as they can do about a censored song methinks….. nothing or something that choice is theirs

Yeah, that's true. I think people would rather go for the small "victories" that are easy to change rather than the meaningful things that they deem too big "

So both are hyperbole then?

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By *reybeard 54Man
over a year ago

Bromsgrove


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever "

The best ever Xmas song, second being Piece on Earth (Little Drummer boy) Bowie and Crosby.

Political correctness is getting ridiculous.

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By *izzy.miss.lizzyCouple
over a year ago

Pembrokeshire

we love the song

but understand it may cause some people to be offended.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field


"we love the song

but understand it may cause some people to be offended.

"

In which case, can we also ban modern rap and also grime, due to the fact its both generally offensive and total shite?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"An estimated 5.2M children die from preventable diseases each year and THIS makes you angry?

Wow. "

Great comment totally related to the debate... Not

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By *amierebelMan
over a year ago

nae danger.

Great song to snowflakey these days but I mean YouTube is a thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is at least 6 years outdated.

Old news

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"They should change the lyrics to:

“You scumbag, you maggot

You taped over Taggart”

That way you get an even greater sense of 80s nostalgia, and we also no longer have to endure the Daily Mail using it to try and stir up hate. "

Wouldn't that be offensive to Scottish detectives?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyones offended now days

Agree its the best christmas track

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport

You clearly all know the words so just sing they over the top, or maybe in your head especially if your somewhere that suddenly blurting out 'faggot' and 'slut' will make people think you've aquired tourettes syndrome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is always someone who takes offence at something. Things you say, do, play, write etc etc - sadly things like social media and the internet have given these people a voice.

I suppose they get the attention they so need to justify their dull existence…..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

.....we can't play full version of fairytale of new York...

So heres cardi b singing about her fanny....

Ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Favorite Christmas song ever love it

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By *ev257Man
over a year ago

cardiff

This song is a great song, just shows how the wankers of today for what they are.

These wankers who have nothing else to do in there lives apart from cry n sulk about a word in a song.

These fuckers would have never survived being a teenager in the 1970's.

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

Best Christmas song ever!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Best Christmas song ever!"

Drop kick Murphy's (the seasons upon us)

It's up there aswell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's wrong to change the lyric. My view is that once a piece of art, in any form, has been given to the world, it belongs to the world and shouldn't be amended. I would rather they blanked or bleeped the word rather than change it, to acknowledge that it has been removed due to modern sensitivities. Having said that, I don't particularly like the song.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't stand this song, Instant radio switch!

And not for the language, just find it really annoying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it's wrong to change the lyric. My view is that once a piece of art, in any form, has been given to the world, it belongs to the world and shouldn't be amended. I would rather they blanked or bleeped the word rather than change it, to acknowledge that it has been removed due to modern sensitivities. Having said that, I don't particularly like the song."

I do like the song, love The Pogues and agree with your opinion on art and censorship in general.

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By *rK MrsJCouple
over a year ago

Kidderminster


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever "

A lot of rap songs are more offensive than fairy-tale of Newyork and they don't moan or ban them which they should.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I don't like the song. Musically I mean.

I also don't like the 'cancel culture' we are being forced to partake in.

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By *orkshireDrifterMan
over a year ago

Nafferton, nr Driffield.

More censorship.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"This song is a great song, just shows how the wankers of today for what they are.

These wankers who have nothing else to do in there lives apart from cry n sulk about a word in a song.

These fuckers would have never survived being a teenager in the 1970's.

"

I was a teenager in the 70s! And I personally dont like that term! Just saying! X

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By *ob08Man
over a year ago

Macclesfield

We need to nip this woke crap in the bud before we end up as if we're living in Nazi Germany where "You will only use pre approved words ya"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The context is them using the words as insults, the target of the insults are each other.

I may just be a paranoid conspiracy theorist but I can't get the idea out of my head that while 'they' feed us this stuff over here and we are all arguing about it and such, what are they doing over there that they don't want us to know about?

Oh and 'Baby it's cold outside' - Is that a playful song about a guy teasing a woman who really does want to stay? Or is it about a sexual predator spiking a womans drink?

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Things is we live in a culture where it’s how you feel that matters , it’s not the slightest bit relevant whether he intended it to be offensive or not. Everyone has the right to be a victim, of something or other , so yes it should be banned and burn him at the stake

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well my daughter is bi (although I think she's actually gay) and she's not offended by it. At 13, she told me the other day that in the context of the song it's fine, it's when it's used as a slur in general that it becomes a problem.

Anyhoo, away to listen to radio 1 playing something by cardi b singing about her pussy

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

It was never censored and the pogues and kirsty also recorded an alternative version at the time for this very reason so all this 'controversy' you're all moaning about is bought on by the moany gammons (if we're throwing about terms like snowflake on here) who like to spout off bout how offended they are about people being offended

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great tune. and it’s just more cancel culture.

I’m sure with todays climate they wouldn’t write that lyric today, but they did.

Dire straight had the same issue with Money for nothing, it’s not isolated.

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By *he MuffinmanMan
over a year ago

West Gloucestershire


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever "

Isn’t a faggot also a bundle of wood for putting on a fire or a tasty meat treat? Maybe he was talking about these? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Things is we live in a culture where it’s how you feel that matters , it’s not the slightest bit relevant whether he intended it to be offensive or not. Everyone has the right to be a victim, of something or other , so yes it should be banned and burn him at the stake

"

Everyone should have the same rights to live in this society regardless of gender, sexual orientations, colour, race etc. It's our actions we should be judged on in my humble onion.

But we need a balance. Somewhere between taking away the things that will stop people being able to live a good happy life and also saying 'ok, I don't like that but I know it's not intended to fuck me up so I will just turn that song off/not attend that kind of comedy show/not watch that film etc'

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By *he MuffinmanMan
over a year ago

West Gloucestershire


"It was never censored and the pogues and kirsty also recorded an alternative version at the time for this very reason so all this 'controversy' you're all moaning about is bought on by the moany gammons (if we're throwing about terms like snowflake on here) who like to spout off bout how offended they are about people being offended "

I’m offended because you said I was offended by people being offended …… I quite like gammon also lol

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By *he MuffinmanMan
over a year ago

West Gloucestershire


"Things is we live in a culture where it’s how you feel that matters , it’s not the slightest bit relevant whether he intended it to be offensive or not. Everyone has the right to be a victim, of something or other , so yes it should be banned and burn him at the stake

Everyone should have the same rights to live in this society regardless of gender, sexual orientations, colour, race etc. It's our actions we should be judged on in my humble onion.

But we need a balance. Somewhere between taking away the things that will stop people being able to live a good happy life and also saying 'ok, I don't like that but I know it's not intended to fuck me up so I will just turn that song off/not attend that kind of comedy show/not watch that film etc' "

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


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Anyhoo, away to listen to radio 1 playing something by cardi b singing about her pussy "

Exactly, all the stations had Bad and Bougee on the playlists because guns, and manufacturing c*ke and rap is cool init

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By *armandwet50Couple
over a year ago

Far far away


"So the annual offence police and certain radio DJs are refusing to play it because the word " faggot" appears in the song .

Aside from the fact the song is 32 years old , also Shane McGowan has repeatedly explained it's an integral part of the characters personality and not meant as an offence .

So what's your thoughts on this ??

PS :- Its the best Xmas song ever "

They need to get a life, a faggot is a meat ball with liver in it. Ask any Welsh person

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