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"I think the u21's were poorly managed rather than bottling it. How Boothroyd blagged his way into that job I don't know. " Bit of both we are very over rated | |||
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"What is it with any England sports team or individuals? We always bottle it! England vs Nederlands lost England u21’s bottled it England cricket team one day World Cup Sri Lanka,Pakistan and Australia bottled it.., Spineless and awestruck in pressure situations, they have the skill set, yet they panic and bottle it!!" Wow. Please don't take a job as an 'England' cheerleader. Negative in . . . Negative out . . . and breathe . . . Tonight is the night for the English Women's Football Team . . . | |||
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"What is it with any England sports team or individuals? We always bottle it! England vs Nederlands lost England u21’s bottled it England cricket team one day World Cup Sri Lanka,Pakistan and Australia bottled it.., Spineless and awestruck in pressure situations, they have the skill set, yet they panic and bottle it!!" It's just over rated, put on too high a platform that kind of thing. As already mentioned. However, I am always jealous of the euphoria that follows any England team. You should all join in and enjoy it while it lasts. I'll be supporting the ladies tonight as they arnt playing Wales. I support all the home nations with the same amount of passion but I do prefer them over England (mens football). Best of luck to OUR cricketers as well tomorrow | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think" How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000. | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000." If they were good enough they would play but they simply not good enough | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think" There's probably quite lot in this . . . Our weather is cold even on many summer days . . . maybe kids just don't want to get out there in the free air and play outdoor games as much as our foreign counterparts . . . fitness and skill comes more more finely tuned if gathered over a long period of time . . . food for thought | |||
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"What is it with any England sports team or individuals? We always bottle it! England vs Nederlands lost England u21’s bottled it England cricket team one day World Cup Sri Lanka,Pakistan and Australia bottled it.., Spineless and awestruck in pressure situations, they have the skill set, yet they panic and bottle it!!" Funny how it's always the people sitting at home watching on tv who know all there us to know about 'bottle'. | |||
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"What is it with any England sports team or individuals? We always bottle it! England vs Nederlands lost England u21’s bottled it England cricket team one day World Cup Sri Lanka,Pakistan and Australia bottled it.., Spineless and awestruck in pressure situations, they have the skill set, yet they panic and bottle it!! Funny how it's always the people sitting at home watching on tv who know all there us to know about 'bottle'." Just maybe the people at home watching on tv have played or coached competitive sports at various levels I doubt many England players or coaching staff are on fab to give the reason why they always bottle it to be fair | |||
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"What is it with any England sports team or individuals? We always bottle it! England vs Nederlands lost England u21’s bottled it England cricket team one day World Cup Sri Lanka,Pakistan and Australia bottled it.., Spineless and awestruck in pressure situations, they have the skill set, yet they panic and bottle it!! Funny how it's always the people sitting at home watching on tv who know all there us to know about 'bottle'. Just maybe the people at home watching on tv have played or coached competitive sports at various levels " Possibly but I'm more inclined to think that they haven't got a clue what they're talking about and they're just repeating something they've heard somebody else say. | |||
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"What is it with any England sports team or individuals? We always bottle it! England vs Nederlands lost England u21’s bottled it England cricket team one day World Cup Sri Lanka,Pakistan and Australia bottled it.., Spineless and awestruck in pressure situations, they have the skill set, yet they panic and bottle it!! Funny how it's always the people sitting at home watching on tv who know all there us to know about 'bottle'. Just maybe the people at home watching on tv have played or coached competitive sports at various levels Possibly but I'm more inclined to think that they haven't got a clue what they're talking about and they're just repeating something they've heard somebody else say." I’m sure some do but sport is pretty big in the uk, so sure most would base there opinion on more that hear say | |||
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"What is it with any England sports team or individuals? We always bottle it! England vs Nederlands lost England u21’s bottled it England cricket team one day World Cup Sri Lanka,Pakistan and Australia bottled it.., Spineless and awestruck in pressure situations, they have the skill set, yet they panic and bottle it!! Funny how it's always the people sitting at home watching on tv who know all there us to know about 'bottle'. Just maybe the people at home watching on tv have played or coached competitive sports at various levels Possibly but I'm more inclined to think that they haven't got a clue what they're talking about and they're just repeating something they've heard somebody else say. I’m sure some do but sport is pretty big in the uk, so sure most would base there opinion on more that hear say " Televised sport is a boom business, participating in grass roots football is at an all-time low. Golf course are closing left, right and centre, Sky Sports subscriptions are on the increase. This is another thread where people are just making stuff up. | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000. If they were good enough they would play but they simply not good enough " How do you know? If a kid is coming through a big club they are quite often up against a £mm player who has to play as the boss spent so much on him. Look what Man City and Chelsea have done to their crop. Phil Foden is a rarity between those two. It just doesn't happen on the continent, they don't buy our over priced players but we go crazy for theirs. That's just one of the reasons imo why England haven't won anything and yet we claim it's the best league in the world. | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000. If they were good enough they would play but they simply not good enough How do you know? If a kid is coming through a big club they are quite often up against a £mm player who has to play as the boss spent so much on him. Look what Man City and Chelsea have done to their crop. Phil Foden is a rarity between those two. It just doesn't happen on the continent, they don't buy our over priced players but we go crazy for theirs. That's just one of the reasons imo why England haven't won anything and yet we claim it's the best league in the world." I think the big clubs are learning the lessons though and FFP is forcing them into changing their ways. Btw, it's normally Sky that claim it's the best league in the world, not 'we'. I'm not sure that's true but it's definitely one if the most exciting. The English Championship is something like the 5th biggest league in Europe, amazing really. | |||
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"What is it with any England sports team or individuals? We always bottle it! England vs Nederlands lost England u21’s bottled it England cricket team one day World Cup Sri Lanka,Pakistan and Australia bottled it.., Spineless and awestruck in pressure situations, they have the skill set, yet they panic and bottle it!! Funny how it's always the people sitting at home watching on tv who know all there us to know about 'bottle'. Just maybe the people at home watching on tv have played or coached competitive sports at various levels Possibly but I'm more inclined to think that they haven't got a clue what they're talking about and they're just repeating something they've heard somebody else say. I’m sure some do but sport is pretty big in the uk, so sure most would base there opinion on more that hear say Televised sport is a boom business, participating in grass roots football is at an all-time low. Golf course are closing left, right and centre, Sky Sports subscriptions are on the increase. This is another thread where people are just making stuff up." Who’s making up stuff ? I’m guessing that the age to be on fab is 18 so even the young ones probably would have some insight when grass roots, golf clubs weren’t on the decline and as for the elder ones like myself remember it before any decline and out door sports were everything to a lot of people ,, yes sport participation is on a decline but the people it’s effecting are to young to be on fab. I still feel most comments are based on experience of at least some sort | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000. If they were good enough they would play but they simply not good enough How do you know? If a kid is coming through a big club they are quite often up against a £mm player who has to play as the boss spent so much on him. Look what Man City and Chelsea have done to their crop. Phil Foden is a rarity between those two. It just doesn't happen on the continent, they don't buy our over priced players but we go crazy for theirs. That's just one of the reasons imo why England haven't won anything and yet we claim it's the best league in the world. I think the big clubs are learning the lessons though and FFP is forcing them into changing their ways. Btw, it's normally Sky that claim it's the best league in the world, not 'we'. I'm not sure that's true but it's definitely one if the most exciting. The English Championship is something like the 5th biggest league in Europe, amazing really." The fans do as well. They probably all own sky as well though. The Championship is the best I think given its unpredictable and how it ends with play offs. Plus the derbies you get through the season | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000. If they were good enough they would play but they simply not good enough How do you know? If a kid is coming through a big club they are quite often up against a £mm player who has to play as the boss spent so much on him. Look what Man City and Chelsea have done to their crop. Phil Foden is a rarity between those two. It just doesn't happen on the continent, they don't buy our over priced players but we go crazy for theirs. That's just one of the reasons imo why England haven't won anything and yet we claim it's the best league in the world." British based teams have the most money so buy the best players from where ever. It dosent stop the best British talent playing, they just play at a lower level only people it could effect is the say average players, if your in the top 50 players for a country you still are regardless of the level you play | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000. If they were good enough they would play but they simply not good enough How do you know? If a kid is coming through a big club they are quite often up against a £mm player who has to play as the boss spent so much on him. Look what Man City and Chelsea have done to their crop. Phil Foden is a rarity between those two. It just doesn't happen on the continent, they don't buy our over priced players but we go crazy for theirs. That's just one of the reasons imo why England haven't won anything and yet we claim it's the best league in the world. British based teams have the most money so buy the best players from where ever. It dosent stop the best British talent playing, they just play at a lower level only people it could effect is the say average players, if your in the top 50 players for a country you still are regardless of the level you play " Arsenal were the best for a short space of time when they were 'The Unbeatables'. It was also around the time they were fielding teams with no home grown talent. Was around the same time of England being unsuccessful. Yes of course it's not just down to that but do you get my point? If you have a good English 20 year old but an even better 25 year old French player bought into the club, the English kid will have to play U21s and reserves. Whereas the french player plays, wins then wins a major trophy for his country. 5 years later we say home grown players art good enough. To counter my point, I remember when you had to have two home grown or maximum of two over seas players before The Bosman came in. Guess what? England didn't win anything then either. It's obviously a number of factors but I think to correct the problem you start at grass roots. England have invested massively so it should only be a matter of time. | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000. If they were good enough they would play but they simply not good enough How do you know? If a kid is coming through a big club they are quite often up against a £mm player who has to play as the boss spent so much on him. Look what Man City and Chelsea have done to their crop. Phil Foden is a rarity between those two. It just doesn't happen on the continent, they don't buy our over priced players but we go crazy for theirs. That's just one of the reasons imo why England haven't won anything and yet we claim it's the best league in the world. British based teams have the most money so buy the best players from where ever. It dosent stop the best British talent playing, they just play at a lower level only people it could effect is the say average players, if your in the top 50 players for a country you still are regardless of the level you play Arsenal were the best for a short space of time when they were 'The Unbeatables'. It was also around the time they were fielding teams with no home grown talent. Was around the same time of England being unsuccessful. Yes of course it's not just down to that but do you get my point? If you have a good English 20 year old but an even better 25 year old French player bought into the club, the English kid will have to play U21s and reserves. Whereas the french player plays, wins then wins a major trophy for his country. 5 years later we say home grown players art good enough. To counter my point, I remember when you had to have two home grown or maximum of two over seas players before The Bosman came in. Guess what? England didn't win anything then either. It's obviously a number of factors but I think to correct the problem you start at grass roots. England have invested massively so it should only be a matter of time." 100% see and get your point, just mean that if your english and the best player in the premier, then say 30 Brazilians are brought in to the premier that are better, your still the best English player. Sorry but I had to google but arsenal had 4 English players in that team ( dic move I know sorry lol ) Either way let’s hope they bottle it tonight | |||
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"England womens footy team havn't.... yet" ..they have a tough one V the USA .. | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000. If they were good enough they would play but they simply not good enough How do you know? If a kid is coming through a big club they are quite often up against a £mm player who has to play as the boss spent so much on him. Look what Man City and Chelsea have done to their crop. Phil Foden is a rarity between those two. It just doesn't happen on the continent, they don't buy our over priced players but we go crazy for theirs. That's just one of the reasons imo why England haven't won anything and yet we claim it's the best league in the world. British based teams have the most money so buy the best players from where ever. It dosent stop the best British talent playing, they just play at a lower level only people it could effect is the say average players, if your in the top 50 players for a country you still are regardless of the level you play Arsenal were the best for a short space of time when they were 'The Unbeatables'. It was also around the time they were fielding teams with no home grown talent. Was around the same time of England being unsuccessful. Yes of course it's not just down to that but do you get my point? If you have a good English 20 year old but an even better 25 year old French player bought into the club, the English kid will have to play U21s and reserves. Whereas the french player plays, wins then wins a major trophy for his country. 5 years later we say home grown players art good enough. To counter my point, I remember when you had to have two home grown or maximum of two over seas players before The Bosman came in. Guess what? England didn't win anything then either. It's obviously a number of factors but I think to correct the problem you start at grass roots. England have invested massively so it should only be a matter of time." ... Liverpool won the FA CUP IN 1986 ..YES ..1986...and there wasn't one English player in the starting 11. | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000. If they were good enough they would play but they simply not good enough How do you know? If a kid is coming through a big club they are quite often up against a £mm player who has to play as the boss spent so much on him. Look what Man City and Chelsea have done to their crop. Phil Foden is a rarity between those two. It just doesn't happen on the continent, they don't buy our over priced players but we go crazy for theirs. That's just one of the reasons imo why England haven't won anything and yet we claim it's the best league in the world. British based teams have the most money so buy the best players from where ever. It dosent stop the best British talent playing, they just play at a lower level only people it could effect is the say average players, if your in the top 50 players for a country you still are regardless of the level you play Arsenal were the best for a short space of time when they were 'The Unbeatables'. It was also around the time they were fielding teams with no home grown talent. Was around the same time of England being unsuccessful. Yes of course it's not just down to that but do you get my point? If you have a good English 20 year old but an even better 25 year old French player bought into the club, the English kid will have to play U21s and reserves. Whereas the french player plays, wins then wins a major trophy for his country. 5 years later we say home grown players art good enough. To counter my point, I remember when you had to have two home grown or maximum of two over seas players before The Bosman came in. Guess what? England didn't win anything then either. It's obviously a number of factors but I think to correct the problem you start at grass roots. England have invested massively so it should only be a matter of time. ... Liverpool won the FA CUP IN 1986 ..YES ..1986...and there wasn't one English player in the starting 11." Mark Lawrenson was born in Preston to English parents, sounds pretty English to me. | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000. If they were good enough they would play but they simply not good enough How do you know? If a kid is coming through a big club they are quite often up against a £mm player who has to play as the boss spent so much on him. Look what Man City and Chelsea have done to their crop. Phil Foden is a rarity between those two. It just doesn't happen on the continent, they don't buy our over priced players but we go crazy for theirs. That's just one of the reasons imo why England haven't won anything and yet we claim it's the best league in the world. British based teams have the most money so buy the best players from where ever. It dosent stop the best British talent playing, they just play at a lower level only people it could effect is the say average players, if your in the top 50 players for a country you still are regardless of the level you play Arsenal were the best for a short space of time when they were 'The Unbeatables'. It was also around the time they were fielding teams with no home grown talent. Was around the same time of England being unsuccessful. Yes of course it's not just down to that but do you get my point? If you have a good English 20 year old but an even better 25 year old French player bought into the club, the English kid will have to play U21s and reserves. Whereas the french player plays, wins then wins a major trophy for his country. 5 years later we say home grown players art good enough. To counter my point, I remember when you had to have two home grown or maximum of two over seas players before The Bosman came in. Guess what? England didn't win anything then either. It's obviously a number of factors but I think to correct the problem you start at grass roots. England have invested massively so it should only be a matter of time. ... Liverpool won the FA CUP IN 1986 ..YES ..1986...and there wasn't one English player in the starting 11. Mark Lawrenson was born in Preston to English parents, sounds pretty English to me." Good spot, maybe he identified as Irish ?? | |||
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"Climate makes a big difference too. We are in a cool, oxygen rich environment close to sea level. We go abroad our bodies don’t run as efficiently, foreign sporting figures come here and their bodies have much more oxygen than they’ve been conditioned with and in a far cooler less humid environment so naturally they’re going to perform at a much more efficient level. Isn’t always as black and white as you’d think How have so many UK based foreigners won so many major football tournaments? I think of the French when they were winning Euros and World Cups. Perhaps when you break it down there wasn't that many here? I think the foreigners make our league what it is and push a lot of UK based players out at a young age. That's why England keep failing I think, or at least since 2000. If they were good enough they would play but they simply not good enough How do you know? If a kid is coming through a big club they are quite often up against a £mm player who has to play as the boss spent so much on him. Look what Man City and Chelsea have done to their crop. Phil Foden is a rarity between those two. It just doesn't happen on the continent, they don't buy our over priced players but we go crazy for theirs. That's just one of the reasons imo why England haven't won anything and yet we claim it's the best league in the world. British based teams have the most money so buy the best players from where ever. It dosent stop the best British talent playing, they just play at a lower level only people it could effect is the say average players, if your in the top 50 players for a country you still are regardless of the level you play Arsenal were the best for a short space of time when they were 'The Unbeatables'. It was also around the time they were fielding teams with no home grown talent. Was around the same time of England being unsuccessful. Yes of course it's not just down to that but do you get my point? If you have a good English 20 year old but an even better 25 year old French player bought into the club, the English kid will have to play U21s and reserves. Whereas the french player plays, wins then wins a major trophy for his country. 5 years later we say home grown players art good enough. To counter my point, I remember when you had to have two home grown or maximum of two over seas players before The Bosman came in. Guess what? England didn't win anything then either. It's obviously a number of factors but I think to correct the problem you start at grass roots. England have invested massively so it should only be a matter of time. ... Liverpool won the FA CUP IN 1986 ..YES ..1986...and there wasn't one English player in the starting 11. Mark Lawrenson was born in Preston to English parents, sounds pretty English to me. Good spot, maybe he identified as Irish ?? " He played for Ireland in the days of having a Guiness stain on your shirt qualified you as being Irish. His grandad was Irish. Class footballer though. | |||
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"Well that penalty answers the bottle question " Not really followed the tournament. When do Wales play? | |||
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"Well that penalty answers the bottle question Not really followed the tournament. When do Wales play?" Lol, don’t get upset mate | |||
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"Well that penalty answers the bottle question Not really followed the tournament. When do Wales play? Lol, don’t get upset mate" Women's football? No offence to anyone but it's not for me. I was dreading reading stories about how they showed our men how it's done to be honest. | |||
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"Thought it was coming home....????" Not sure where 'home' is for the women's game but it's nice to see even the jocks recognise where it is for the boys. | |||
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"funny how the other home nations are sniggering suppose that’s all they have to look forward to watching England fail in yet another competition they qualified for " I rejoice in their mealy-mouthed small mindedness. It's an inferiority complex personified. | |||
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"funny how the other home nations are sniggering suppose that’s all they have to look forward to watching England fail in yet another competition they qualified for I rejoice in their mealy-mouthed small mindedness. It's an inferiority complex personified." Lol brilliant | |||
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"funny how the other home nations are sniggering suppose that’s all they have to look forward to watching England fail in yet another competition they qualified for I rejoice in their mealy-mouthed small mindedness. It's an inferiority complex personified." Hook, line and sinker old chap....I knew someone would bite as soon as I posted that comment...... | |||
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"funny how the other home nations are sniggering suppose that’s all they have to look forward to watching England fail in yet another competition they qualified for I rejoice in their mealy-mouthed small mindedness. It's an inferiority complex personified. Hook, line and sinker old chap....I knew someone would bite as soon as I posted that comment......" fishing seems very popular in Scotland and Wales when England fail | |||
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"funny how the other home nations are sniggering suppose that’s all they have to look forward to watching England fail in yet another competition they qualified for I rejoice in their mealy-mouthed small mindedness. It's an inferiority complex personified. Hook, line and sinker old chap....I knew someone would bite as soon as I posted that comment...... fishing seems very popular in Scotland and Wales when England fail " Dont forget Northern Ireland now...also part of the Union... | |||
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"funny how the other home nations are sniggering suppose that’s all they have to look forward to watching England fail in yet another competition they qualified for I rejoice in their mealy-mouthed small mindedness. It's an inferiority complex personified. Hook, line and sinker old chap....I knew someone would bite as soon as I posted that comment...... fishing seems very popular in Scotland and Wales when England fail Dont forget Northern Ireland now...also part of the Union..." very rare do the Irish laugh at England failing its nearly always Scots or Welsh just my observation | |||
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"funny how the other home nations are sniggering suppose that’s all they have to look forward to watching England fail in yet another competition they qualified for I rejoice in their mealy-mouthed small mindedness. It's an inferiority complex personified. Hook, line and sinker old chap....I knew someone would bite as soon as I posted that comment...... fishing seems very popular in Scotland and Wales when England fail Dont forget Northern Ireland now...also part of the Union... very rare do the Irish laugh at England failing its nearly always Scots or Welsh just my observation" We all have our observations.... | |||
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"funny how the other home nations are sniggering suppose that’s all they have to look forward to watching England fail in yet another competition they qualified for " Where's all this sniggering? USA deserved to win and did. That's sport for you. That's all WE have to look forward to? Don't be silly, I love having England's progress rammed down my throat for a few weeks every few summers. | |||
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"funny how the other home nations are sniggering suppose that’s all they have to look forward to watching England fail in yet another competition they qualified for Where's all this sniggering? USA deserved to win and did. That's sport for you. That's all WE have to look forward to? Don't be silly, I love having England's progress rammed down my throat for a few weeks every few summers." well comments like it’s coming home and the comment about bottles going like I said it gives a lot of the home nations who struggle to even qualify something to look forward to watching England fail at big tournaments I personally don’t laugh at other countries not qualifying but yes I can understand the comments on England fans ripping into other countries not qualifying like you said that’s sport | |||
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"funny how the other home nations are sniggering suppose that’s all they have to look forward to watching England fail in yet another competition they qualified for Where's all this sniggering? USA deserved to win and did. That's sport for you. That's all WE have to look forward to? Don't be silly, I love having England's progress rammed down my throat for a few weeks every few summers. well comments like it’s coming home and the comment about bottles going like I said it gives a lot of the home nations who struggle to even qualify something to look forward to watching England fail at big tournaments I personally don’t laugh at other countries not qualifying but yes I can understand the comments on England fans ripping into other countries not qualifying like you said that’s sport " I hate having it rammed down my throat as well. I hope they do win a WC again for my relatives sake and Yeah I will support England providing they ain't playing us. When Wales qualified for the Euros The Bbc would have the pundits talking about England's next big game during the half time chat of the Wales game. It was disgusting to be honest, that was on BBC 1 Wales. It's as if 'it's coming home' has some kind of curse attached to it. | |||
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"They're shite. " Says FIFA Ranking 20 versus FIFA ranking 2 | |||
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"They're shite. Says FIFA Ranking 20 versus FIFA ranking 2 " They haven't progressed really, at least not in regards to trophies. They would have grown the game so perhaps you can say it's been a huge success but even Phil Nev said going out in Semis would be a failure. I suppose that's the standard they have set themselves | |||
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"They're shite. Says FIFA Ranking 20 versus FIFA ranking 2 They haven't progressed really, at least not in regards to trophies. They would have grown the game so perhaps you can say it's been a huge success but even Phil Nev said going out in Semis would be a failure. I suppose that's the standard they have set themselves" And Qualified for the Summer Olympics (and kicked Scotland out by doing so). | |||
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"They're shite. Says FIFA Ranking 20 versus FIFA ranking 2 They haven't progressed really, at least not in regards to trophies. They would have grown the game so perhaps you can say it's been a huge success but even Phil Nev said going out in Semis would be a failure. I suppose that's the standard they have set themselves And Qualified for the Summer Olympics (and kicked Scotland out by doing so). " Take your word for it but that will be GB | |||
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"They're shite. Says FIFA Ranking 20 versus FIFA ranking 2 They haven't progressed really, at least not in regards to trophies. They would have grown the game so perhaps you can say it's been a huge success but even Phil Nev said going out in Semis would be a failure. I suppose that's the standard they have set themselves And Qualified for the Summer Olympics (and kicked Scotland out by doing so). Take your word for it but that will be GB" It's England that have qualified. FIFA said the highest ranking team finisher for GB would go through. | |||
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"They're shite. Says FIFA Ranking 20 versus FIFA ranking 2 They haven't progressed really, at least not in regards to trophies. They would have grown the game so perhaps you can say it's been a huge success but even Phil Nev said going out in Semis would be a failure. I suppose that's the standard they have set themselves And Qualified for the Summer Olympics (and kicked Scotland out by doing so). Take your word for it but that will be GB It's England that have qualified. FIFA said the highest ranking team finisher for GB would go through. " How does this work then seeing as England don't put any team into the limpics? It's always Great Britain Your sure about this are you? | |||
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"They're shite. Says FIFA Ranking 20 versus FIFA ranking 2 They haven't progressed really, at least not in regards to trophies. They would have grown the game so perhaps you can say it's been a huge success but even Phil Nev said going out in Semis would be a failure. I suppose that's the standard they have set themselves And Qualified for the Summer Olympics (and kicked Scotland out by doing so). Take your word for it but that will be GB It's England that have qualified. FIFA said the highest ranking team finisher for GB would go through. How does this work then seeing as England don't put any team into the limpics? It's always Great Britain Your sure about this are you?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_FIFA_Women%27s_World_Cup#Controversies Seach for 'Qualifying teams for Summer Olympics' | |||
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"They're shite. Says FIFA Ranking 20 versus FIFA ranking 2 They haven't progressed really, at least not in regards to trophies. They would have grown the game so perhaps you can say it's been a huge success but even Phil Nev said going out in Semis would be a failure. I suppose that's the standard they have set themselves And Qualified for the Summer Olympics (and kicked Scotland out by doing so). Take your word for it but that will be GB It's England that have qualified. FIFA said the highest ranking team finisher for GB would go through. How does this work then seeing as England don't put any team into the limpics? It's always Great Britain Your sure about this are you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_FIFA_Women%27s_World_Cup#Controversies Seach for 'Qualifying teams for Summer Olympics'" Whoops my bab you're right. Me too excited lol. | |||
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"They didn't lose, they made it through to the semi-final. " And then lost | |||
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"They didn't lose, they made it through to the semi-final. And then lost" Negative in . . . negative out . . . | |||
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"Very broad generalisation there... England women's rugby team rarely bottle it! England's Equestrian team are the same, as are our sailing teams and cyclists. How about the Brownlee brothers?? Just because our Football and cricket teams "bottle it" doesn't mean were all bad at sport! " Great point about the woman’s rugby team Although I could be wrong but isn’t equestrian an individual type event as opposed to say national team v national team ( well could be wrong ) Cycling I think is the same and the brownlee brothers who are amazing compete for GB to the best of my knowledge | |||
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"Very broad generalisation there... England women's rugby team rarely bottle it! England's Equestrian team are the same, as are our sailing teams and cyclists. How about the Brownlee brothers?? Just because our Football and cricket teams "bottle it" doesn't mean were all bad at sport! Great point about the woman’s rugby team Although I could be wrong but isn’t equestrian an individual type event as opposed to say national team v national team ( well could be wrong ) Cycling I think is the same and the brownlee brothers who are amazing compete for GB to the best of my knowledge" Equestrian is both, team and individual. But in international competition its always nations who compete. But they are also GB. I just class it all as our national teams Eng or GB! :D | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. " Lolz | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. " Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game " Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. " They still might finish 3rd again yet, keep the faith | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. They still might finish 3rd again yet, keep the faith" You bet they might. And my faith is rock solid | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. They still might finish 3rd again yet, keep the faith You bet they might. And my faith is rock solid " This post was about England bottling it. Did england bottle it ? Yes, yes they did. No need to go off topic or get upset | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. They still might finish 3rd again yet, keep the faith You bet they might. And my faith is rock solid This post was about England bottling it. Did england bottle it ? Yes, yes they did. No need to go off topic or get upset " Can you define 'Bottling' please? Can you explain how England bottled it last night? Other previous examples would be a great help Thank you | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. They still might finish 3rd again yet, keep the faith You bet they might. And my faith is rock solid This post was about England bottling it. Did england bottle it ? Yes, yes they did. No need to go off topic or get upset " Who's upset? lmao | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. They still might finish 3rd again yet, keep the faith You bet they might. And my faith is rock solid This post was about England bottling it. Did england bottle it ? Yes, yes they did. No need to go off topic or get upset Can you define 'Bottling' please? Can you explain how England bottled it last night? Other previous examples would be a great help Thank you" Ok well on a google search one definition is as follows “ when a person loses because of nerves, often completely losing his/her ability. English media dosent help always portraying them as potential world beaters when in retrospect they are just another team, this creates national hysteria and the expectance of winning “ it’s coming home as an example “ lol Also over confidence in English players due to them thinking they are better than they are. Example 1: last night a perfect opportunity with a late penalty and was completely bottled due to the pressure, no shame in losing but it was bottled and the penalty showed that Example 2: the it’s coming home tournament, semi final and never a better chance against an ok team but again media and inflated player egos cost them the game they expected to win and a game they should of won ,, bottled it Example 3: home rugby World Cup, the mighty England playing in front of there home crowd against lowly Wales. Due to arrogance, media hype england bottled it and was effectively knocked out. Hey I’m Welsh we know all about losing but the difference is we know who we are and know our limits but england dont | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. They still might finish 3rd again yet, keep the faith You bet they might. And my faith is rock solid This post was about England bottling it. Did england bottle it ? Yes, yes they did. No need to go off topic or get upset Who's upset? lmao" My mistake, I only assume you are as you get all defensive and off topic that’s all | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. They still might finish 3rd again yet, keep the faith You bet they might. And my faith is rock solid This post was about England bottling it. Did england bottle it ? Yes, yes they did. No need to go off topic or get upset Can you define 'Bottling' please? Can you explain how England bottled it last night? Other previous examples would be a great help Thank you Ok well on a google search one definition is as follows “ when a person loses because of nerves, often completely losing his/her ability. English media dosent help always portraying them as potential world beaters when in retrospect they are just another team, this creates national hysteria and the expectance of winning “ it’s coming home as an example “ lol Also over confidence in English players due to them thinking they are better than they are. Example 1: last night a perfect opportunity with a late penalty and was completely bottled due to the pressure, no shame in losing but it was bottled and the penalty showed that Example 2: the it’s coming home tournament, semi final and never a better chance against an ok team but again media and inflated player egos cost them the game they expected to win and a game they should of won ,, bottled it Example 3: home rugby World Cup, the mighty England playing in front of there home crowd against lowly Wales. Due to arrogance, media hype england bottled it and was effectively knocked out. Hey I’m Welsh we know all about losing but the difference is we know who we are and know our limits but england dont" But you can't define 'should have won' it's sentence that is semantically null. You play a game and someone loses and someone wins there is no 'should' about. Nothing is pre-ordained so there can be no 'should'. | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. They still might finish 3rd again yet, keep the faith You bet they might. And my faith is rock solid This post was about England bottling it. Did england bottle it ? Yes, yes they did. No need to go off topic or get upset Can you define 'Bottling' please? Can you explain how England bottled it last night? Other previous examples would be a great help Thank you Ok well on a google search one definition is as follows “ when a person loses because of nerves, often completely losing his/her ability. English media dosent help always portraying them as potential world beaters when in retrospect they are just another team, this creates national hysteria and the expectance of winning “ it’s coming home as an example “ lol Also over confidence in English players due to them thinking they are better than they are. Example 1: last night a perfect opportunity with a late penalty and was completely bottled due to the pressure, no shame in losing but it was bottled and the penalty showed that Example 2: the it’s coming home tournament, semi final and never a better chance against an ok team but again media and inflated player egos cost them the game they expected to win and a game they should of won ,, bottled it Example 3: home rugby World Cup, the mighty England playing in front of there home crowd against lowly Wales. Due to arrogance, media hype england bottled it and was effectively knocked out. Hey I’m Welsh we know all about losing but the difference is we know who we are and know our limits but england dont But you can't define 'should have won' it's sentence that is semantically null. You play a game and someone loses and someone wins there is no 'should' about. Nothing is pre-ordained so there can be no 'should'. " I was really worried as england had the better team but as over hyped they bottled it, and usually if both teams are similar it’s the team who wants it more that wins. I’m not sure why we are still going on about this, it’s not like what I’m saying isn’t true | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. They still might finish 3rd again yet, keep the faith You bet they might. And my faith is rock solid This post was about England bottling it. Did england bottle it ? Yes, yes they did. No need to go off topic or get upset Can you define 'Bottling' please? Can you explain how England bottled it last night? Other previous examples would be a great help Thank you Ok well on a google search one definition is as follows “ when a person loses because of nerves, often completely losing his/her ability. English media dosent help always portraying them as potential world beaters when in retrospect they are just another team, this creates national hysteria and the expectance of winning “ it’s coming home as an example “ lol Also over confidence in English players due to them thinking they are better than they are. Example 1: last night a perfect opportunity with a late penalty and was completely bottled due to the pressure, no shame in losing but it was bottled and the penalty showed that Example 2: the it’s coming home tournament, semi final and never a better chance against an ok team but again media and inflated player egos cost them the game they expected to win and a game they should of won ,, bottled it Example 3: home rugby World Cup, the mighty England playing in front of there home crowd against lowly Wales. Due to arrogance, media hype england bottled it and was effectively knocked out. Hey I’m Welsh we know all about losing but the difference is we know who we are and know our limits but england dont" Okay Thank You. I can see your angle and googles. I don't think last night's penalty was bottled. I just think it was poorly taken. Her Husband got diagnosed with a terminal illness a year ago, she hasn't retired or hidden away from her career. In fact she is still captain. In fact this example to me is the complete opposite of bottling it. If she had bottled it, someone else would of taken it. I don't think your other examples fit the word very well either. I think it's easy to throw a 'bottle' when a team loses a game that they have been over inflated to win. | |||
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"Colins says: 'bottle it. phrase [VERB inflects] If you say that someone has bottled it, you mean that they have lost their courage at the last moment and have not done something they intended to do. [British, informal]' She missed the penalty - that's it missed the penalty. Or to put it another way the goalie stopped a penalty being scored. To bottle it would have meant not to have taken it at all." Wow your just proving my point, if my mum has the ability to save a penalty that tells me it was completely fluffed and it was It was so bad the goalie almost dived past and over it , if that’s not losing their courage whilst under pressure I don’t know what is. You watched the game so I don’t understand why you can possibly say different | |||
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"Well here's who the came ahead of . . . Rankings in brackets: Australia (6) China PR (16) Japan (7) South Korea (14) Thailand (34) Cameroon (46) Nigeria (38) South Africa (49) Canada (5) Jamaica (53) Argentina (37) Brazil (10) Chile (39) New Zealand (19) France (4) Germany (2) Italy (15) Norway (12) Scotland (20) Spain (13) Are Wales still in it? ( ) When do they play next? Bunch of losers lol. Hahaha don’t be upset it’s only a game Oh I'm far from upset - they did a wonderful job. Ranked 3 in the World, got to the Semi-Final. One of our players scored as many goals as USA's Alex Morgan. Qualified for the Summer Olympics because of this competition, and came ahead of that lot above. Jumping for joy here. There's a lot to be said for 'what next' not 'oh shit, let's go home and forget about the whole thing co's hey look we're crap co's we didn't win this trophy'. Might rain tomorrow, best give up and go sit in my wellies and grump my way through what might have been. Instead of wondering how much fun water can be. They still might finish 3rd again yet, keep the faith You bet they might. And my faith is rock solid This post was about England bottling it. Did england bottle it ? Yes, yes they did. No need to go off topic or get upset Can you define 'Bottling' please? Can you explain how England bottled it last night? Other previous examples would be a great help Thank you Ok well on a google search one definition is as follows “ when a person loses because of nerves, often completely losing his/her ability. English media dosent help always portraying them as potential world beaters when in retrospect they are just another team, this creates national hysteria and the expectance of winning “ it’s coming home as an example “ lol Also over confidence in English players due to them thinking they are better than they are. Example 1: last night a perfect opportunity with a late penalty and was completely bottled due to the pressure, no shame in losing but it was bottled and the penalty showed that Example 2: the it’s coming home tournament, semi final and never a better chance against an ok team but again media and inflated player egos cost them the game they expected to win and a game they should of won ,, bottled it Example 3: home rugby World Cup, the mighty England playing in front of there home crowd against lowly Wales. Due to arrogance, media hype england bottled it and was effectively knocked out. Hey I’m Welsh we know all about losing but the difference is we know who we are and know our limits but england dont Okay Thank You. I can see your angle and googles. I don't think last night's penalty was bottled. I just think it was poorly taken. Her Husband got diagnosed with a terminal illness a year ago, she hasn't retired or hidden away from her career. In fact she is still captain. In fact this example to me is the complete opposite of bottling it. If she had bottled it, someone else would of taken it. I don't think your other examples fit the word very well either. I think it's easy to throw a 'bottle' when a team loses a game that they have been over inflated to win." I don’t know the ladies story but that’s awful to hear and to step up and take a penalty in the 80th min in a semi final takes guts 100% But to say she didn’t bottle the penalty is wrong Fair play taking it ,, I wouldn’t of but that dosent change the fact that all | |||
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"Shocked of Stoke on trent . . . imagine me having an entirely differing viewpoint! Back to the dressing room and spank those poor girls. and onto tonights big game . . . come on the USA (only co's I have the hots for Ms Morgan). Cat X " Everyone is of course aloud a different opinion, but that doesn’t make that opinion right Hey look well done england semis is great, but you can’t watch that penalty and say she didn’t bottle it ( no shame in that the pressure was huge ) And yes USA are hot | |||
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"Shocked of Stoke on trent . . . imagine me having an entirely differing viewpoint! Back to the dressing room and spank those poor girls. and onto tonights big game . . . come on the USA (only co's I have the hots for Ms Morgan). Cat X Everyone is of course aloud a different opinion, but that doesn’t make that opinion right Hey look well done england semis is great, but you can’t watch that penalty and say she didn’t bottle it ( no shame in that the pressure was huge ) And yes USA are hot " Lmao - I can lol. I will admit she miss hit it. I will admit the goalie saved it. Nothing to do with bottles, or crates for that matter. | |||
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"Shocked of Stoke on trent . . . imagine me having an entirely differing viewpoint! Back to the dressing room and spank those poor girls. and onto tonights big game . . . come on the USA (only co's I have the hots for Ms Morgan). Cat X Everyone is of course aloud a different opinion, but that doesn’t make that opinion right Hey look well done england semis is great, but you can’t watch that penalty and say she didn’t bottle it ( no shame in that the pressure was huge ) And yes USA are hot Lmao - I can lol. I will admit she miss hit it. I will admit the goalie saved it. Nothing to do with bottles, or crates for that matter. " Hmmmm wonder why she miss hit it | |||
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"Shocked of Stoke on trent . . . imagine me having an entirely differing viewpoint! Back to the dressing room and spank those poor girls. and onto tonights big game . . . come on the USA (only co's I have the hots for Ms Morgan). Cat X Everyone is of course aloud a different opinion, but that doesn’t make that opinion right Hey look well done england semis is great, but you can’t watch that penalty and say she didn’t bottle it ( no shame in that the pressure was huge ) And yes USA are hot Lmao - I can lol. I will admit she miss hit it. I will admit the goalie saved it. Nothing to do with bottles, or crates for that matter. Hmmmm wonder why she miss hit it " Maybe she was thinking about friends coming around for tea on Sunday. Or maybe she just miss hit it. | |||
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" England cricket team one day World Cup Sri Lanka,Pakistan and Australia bottled it.., Spineless and awestruck in pressure situations, they have the skill set, yet they panic and bottle it!!" The last two games have had more pressure on because they've HAD to win. They step up their game and what do you know. They win them both. Let's save the 'bottled it' for the time they are out out the tournament. Should that happen. Still confident of at least one World Cup coming to an England team. | |||
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"Shocked of Stoke on trent . . . imagine me having an entirely differing viewpoint! Back to the dressing room and spank those poor girls. and onto tonights big game . . . come on the USA (only co's I have the hots for Ms Morgan). Cat X Everyone is of course aloud a different opinion, but that doesn’t make that opinion right Hey look well done england semis is great, but you can’t watch that penalty and say she didn’t bottle it ( no shame in that the pressure was huge ) And yes USA are hot Lmao - I can lol. I will admit she miss hit it. I will admit the goalie saved it. Nothing to do with bottles, or crates for that matter. Hmmmm wonder why she miss hit it Maybe she was thinking about friends coming around for tea on Sunday. Or maybe she just miss hit it." Yep she bottled it | |||
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"And England just beat NZ by 119 runs and Qualify for the Semi's. England just keep on giving lol. " Urrrrm not sure if your aware but it’s England and Wales, not a fan of cricket but hope we do win | |||
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"And England just beat NZ by 119 runs and Qualify for the Semi's. England just keep on giving lol. Urrrrm not sure if your aware but it’s England and Wales, " Not to forgetting Ireland, Zimbabwe, South Africa and whoever else we can convince to come and play for us. | |||
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"Lewis didn't bottle it either - congrats to him, a great race " I agree great win, but he’s English not representing England to be fair | |||
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"Lewis didn't bottle it either - congrats to him, a great race I agree great win, but he’s English not representing England to be fair" who’s he representing then ?france | |||
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"Lewis didn't bottle it either - congrats to him, a great race I agree great win, but he’s English not representing England to be fair who’s he representing then ?france " Think it’s Mercedes he represents, but don’t think F1 is an country v country event | |||
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"Lewis didn't bottle it either - congrats to him, a great race I agree great win, but he’s English not representing England to be fair who’s he representing then ?france Think it’s Mercedes he represents, but don’t think F1 is an country v country event " I suppose to be PC about it he represents Britain, but whatever - great to see him win and a great race as well. | |||
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"Lewis didn't bottle it either - congrats to him, a great race I agree great win, but he’s English not representing England to be fair who’s he representing then ?france Think it’s Mercedes he represents, but don’t think F1 is an country v country event I suppose to be PC about it he represents Britain, but whatever - great to see him win and a great race as well." He’s definitely British and the best around but he dosent represent Britain, he represents himself and Mercedes | |||
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"Lewis didn't bottle it either - congrats to him, a great race I agree great win, but he’s English not representing England to be fair who’s he representing then ?france Think it’s Mercedes he represents, but don’t think F1 is an country v country event " the car is built in Britain at the mclaren factory British engineering fair point on the country bit but Lewis is British so kinda represented us as a country | |||
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"Lewis didn't bottle it either - congrats to him, a great race I agree great win, but he’s English not representing England to be fair who’s he representing then ?france Think it’s Mercedes he represents, but don’t think F1 is an country v country event the car is built in Britain at the mclaren factory British engineering fair point on the country bit but Lewis is British so kinda represented us as a country " O 100% he’s British and definitely the best but if he wins the title it’s not like Britain are the F1 champions that’s all I mean, sure he’s a proud english man but he drives for him and Mercedes not a country as such | |||
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"Lewis didn't bottle it either - congrats to him, a great race I agree great win, but he’s English not representing England to be fair who’s he representing then ?france Think it’s Mercedes he represents, but don’t think F1 is an country v country event the car is built in Britain at the mclaren factory British engineering fair point on the country bit but Lewis is British so kinda represented us as a country O 100% he’s British and definitely the best but if he wins the title it’s not like Britain are the F1 champions that’s all I mean, sure he’s a proud english man but he drives for him and Mercedes not a country as such " but the drivers British so makes it British well it does to me anyway maybe I’m completely wrong | |||
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"Lewis didn't bottle it either - congrats to him, a great race I agree great win, but he’s English not representing England to be fair who’s he representing then ?france Think it’s Mercedes he represents, but don’t think F1 is an country v country event the car is built in Britain at the mclaren factory British engineering fair point on the country bit but Lewis is British so kinda represented us as a country O 100% he’s British and definitely the best but if he wins the title it’s not like Britain are the F1 champions that’s all I mean, sure he’s a proud english man but he drives for him and Mercedes not a country as such but the drivers British so makes it British well it does to me anyway maybe I’m completely wrong " Completely get your point of view and if it was an international tournament thing with him at the wheel england/Britain would by world champions, but unfortunately F1 dosent work like that. Should start a petition to get F1 into the Olympics | |||
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"Lewis didn't bottle it either - congrats to him, a great race I agree great win, but he’s English not representing England to be fair who’s he representing then ?france Think it’s Mercedes he represents, but don’t think F1 is an country v country event the car is built in Britain at the mclaren factory British engineering fair point on the country bit but Lewis is British so kinda represented us as a country O 100% he’s British and definitely the best but if he wins the title it’s not like Britain are the F1 champions that’s all I mean, sure he’s a proud english man but he drives for him and Mercedes not a country as such but the drivers British so makes it British well it does to me anyway maybe I’m completely wrong Completely get your point of view and if it was an international tournament thing with him at the wheel england/Britain would by world champions, but unfortunately F1 dosent work like that. Should start a petition to get F1 into the Olympics " good point | |||
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