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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon

One for all the budding Michael Fish wannabies.

Simple really... just post a report if its snowing where you are, time, depth/intensity, flavour etc.

Nowt in South Wales yet.

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By *littylikka69Man
over a year ago

West Midlands

nowt in worcester just yet but they did say to expect it this afternoon, i got my snow shovel ready and my warm blanket in the car with my flask of hot tea and am only going to sainsburys!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

extremely cold. cant get the car started here.

dammit!!

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By *hagginhaggisCouple
over a year ago

aberdeen

snowing here, but not staying as its too wet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing in Norfolk yet its supposed to arrive tonight so should wake up to a white blanket tomorrow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pontypool area, south east wales

very light dusting, snow has stopped now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"extremely cold. cant get the car started here.

dammit!!"

Snow reports, not Traffic reports

....on a serious note, I hope you can get it fixed real soon.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn

cold and wet here, no sign of the banned word, hope it stays that way

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By *ercedes62Woman
over a year ago

Northampton

Just been told it snowing in Devon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing here as yet! The sky does look heavy with snow though

let it snow let it snow let it snow!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sky is as blue as a budgies bum here and the sun is shining

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By *aceytopWoman
over a year ago

from a town near you

no snow im my little part of Yorkshire yet,but some on them thar hills

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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon

just been chatting to friends... looks like its moving up from the south Wales coast, first snowing in Cardiff, now in Merthyr... if it gets over the mountains next stop is Brecon!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

None in Stoke or Crewe at present xx

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By *ashful BazMan
over a year ago

poole dorset

Nice sunny day here in Dorset, was a very hard frost first thing though.

Was cold enough walking back from the pub last night mind, to freeze a brass monnkeys whats it's off.

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By *enithWoman
over a year ago

closer than you think

Nice and sunny in south Bucks but looks a bit frosty

hope we don't get any snow as going to Paradise Spa tonight for Tarts n Vicars!!

be safe whatever you are doing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All clear in Stockport, South Manchester.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No snow in Swindon - grey and miserable and cold - but hey - this is Swindon we're talking about!!

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By *teve196301Man
over a year ago

northumberland

Nowt in Northumberland, kinda cold tho, reading posts, anyone having car trouble up here let me know Im a mechanic n will get ya going lol

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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon

Its here!!!!

Admittedly its only a few very small flakes.... but it is snowing!!!!

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By *nJ_NW_cplCouple
over a year ago

wirral

Rain in Wirral but its so cold its turning to ice as it hits the ground xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its here!!!!

Admittedly its only a few very small flakes.... but it is snowing!!!!"

will be with us soon then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

-5 in Gloucester but no snow yet though the BBC weather report says we are due snow about 3pm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Full cloud cover and the temp has dropped significantly. No snow as yet though. Gateshead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cold as a polar bears cock, but no snow, Truro

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nowt here

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk


"Nothing in Norfolk yet its supposed to arrive tonight so should wake up to a white blanket tomorrow "

we have a very light dusting just south of Norwich but appears to be very localised as up the hill (yes the hill!) it appears to be clear

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"nowt here "

hello stranger....how ya diddling???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"nowt here

hello stranger....how ya diddling???"

I'm good thanks just chillin and enjoying a new lease of life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Snowing here in Shropshire

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just started in telford,a few flakes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"just started in telford,a few flakes"

oh no its here lol...x

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By *ldestswingerintownMan
over a year ago

Lancaster

Started here in Lancaster 10 minutes ago - currently looking very murky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nothing in Norfolk yet its supposed to arrive tonight so should wake up to a white blanket tomorrow

we have a very light dusting just south of Norwich but appears to be very localised as up the hill (yes the hill!) it appears to be clear "

It will arrive tonight then Norfolk will grind to a halt

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By *teve196301Man
over a year ago

northumberland

Just started to snow, kinda light but looks promissing..........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently it's snowing just over the Severn Bridge - guess it'll be heading this way soon! Best turn the heating up!

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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon

Yup, all over the South of Wales... getting heavier here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's just started snowing in Stockport.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just starting in cannock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No snow here bright and clear just very cold.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No snow here and doesnt look likely either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lots of snow here now!!!

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By *littylikka69Man
over a year ago

West Midlands


"lots of snow here now!!!"

can you hang on to it for a while?,dont want it blowing my way just yet!~.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Yep its here. Can it go by 7pm though please?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nothing in Trowbridge...no snow either !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Snow snow and more snow!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just looked out the window, saw what I thought was fine drizzle, but is actually really fine drizzly snow lol! Hope it makes it's mind up soon

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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago

between havant and chichester

nowt here on south coast blue sky and sun

no trains tho due to a mega gas leak last night

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By *limBobStretchedPantsMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

Snow sighted east of Darlington lol. Very light but it's still snow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A good 3 inches here and is sticking too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cold and raining in Chester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A light falling of snow here... but does look to be settling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A good 3 inches here and is sticking too "

A sticky 3 inches? No wonder you're not smiling!!

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By *arsesCouple
over a year ago

15 mins south of Gatwick

Sun still smiling down on us here, 10 minutes south of Gatwick. But Heathrow have announced they're cutting 1/3 of flights tomorrow -just in case!!

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By *littylikka69Man
over a year ago

West Midlands

snow just followed me all way home from bridgnorth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A good 3 inches here and is sticking too

A sticky 3 inches? No wonder you're not smiling!! "

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

Trying desperately to snow in Cheltenham. About 10 flakes so far.

Send it down here people, it might warm up then!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

bloody humping it down here and because it was dry it's settled xx

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

snowing here in gateshead now.... lying a little bit..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"snowing here in gateshead now.... lying a little bit.."

come on - is it snowing or not? tell the truth!!!!

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Non at mine yet, but a friend in the city centre said.it's just started.

I'm conflicted, I lobe the snow, even though.I.live at the top of a very big hill, but I'm supposed to be out in town tonight. I neve go uptown these days, do why does my friends birthday fall on the day ten inches is forecast?!

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

a few flakes earlier but thats all in tynedale

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no snow in lincolnshire yet.

sun & blue skys gone now though and getting cloudy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Snowing quite bad up here in the Welsh valleys, and it still coming down thick and fast, side roads are quite bad!

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By *exywheelsCouple
over a year ago

inverness

just rain and wind at ours

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

Snow in Dudley and slowly getting deeper

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By *om1noMan
over a year ago

South Worcestershire


"nowt in worcester just yet but they did say to expect it this afternoon, i got my snow shovel ready and my warm blanket in the car with my flask of hot tea and am only going to sainsburys!. "
I've also had problems with sainsburys at blackpole, try st peters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fekking lying weathermen, now snowing in Gloucester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No snow yet here, but plenty of icicles hanging

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By *aceytopWoman
over a year ago

from a town near you


"no snow im my little part of Yorkshire yet,but some on them thar hills"
update its snowing started whilst out walking the dog,silly mutt loves it

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By *ornyHorwichCpl aka HHCCouple
over a year ago

horwich

3 inches here in Horwich but now raining a bit so icy icy tomorrow. Hope the club has the heating on later

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"no snow im my little part of Yorkshire yet,but some on them thar hillsupdate its snowing started whilst out walking the dog,silly mutt loves it"

our pup has never seen snow yet..

silly old me getting all excited about how he may respond lol..

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"no snow im my little part of Yorkshire yet,but some on them thar hillsupdate its snowing started whilst out walking the dog,silly mutt loves it"

My dog does snow pough with nose

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

stopped snowing in gateshead.. just a light dusting on the ground...

hang on.. thats no in the memo... i want 6 inches of snow like everyone else!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Snowing in my part of Wiltshire, dusting, not big flakes, and it is settling.

The dog and I attempted to walk to our usual playground to play sling ball, and decided against it about 100m from the house.

He is now happily snoozing away upstairs in bed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"no snow im my little part of Yorkshire yet,but some on them thar hillsupdate its snowing started whilst out walking the dog,silly mutt loves it

My dog does snow pough with nose "

So does mine - even tries it on the frost

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing here yet but have 2 tiny tots stood at the window looking for it,.

Hopefully it stays away till mon afternoon as eldests wellyboots at school

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"no snow im my little part of Yorkshire yet,but some on them thar hillsupdate its snowing started whilst out walking the dog,silly mutt loves it

My dog does snow pough with nose

So does mine - even tries it on the frost "

No snow here - blue skies and a sweltering 8oC - positively summery

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's been lovely here all day. bit fresh maybe

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By *amslam1000Man
over a year ago

willenhall

white over outside i'm 2 miles from chams

was dry last time i looked

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

5 metres of snow and minus 22 right now on top of Diedamskopf in Austria - thank goodness for thermals and Schnaps.

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By *om1noMan
over a year ago

South Worcestershire


"No snow yet here, but plenty of icicles hanging

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I've a box of tissues to solve that problem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing here on Canvey Island.

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By *om1noMan
over a year ago

South Worcestershire

Snowing well here, soon be time to ger car out and play

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No snow here, lashing with rain though.

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

Wooop woop..... it's started!

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By *4FantasyCouple
over a year ago

Spalding

nothing in Peterborough yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Snowing in derbyshire now...

Cali

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By *obsrocketMan
over a year ago

Loughborough

Just started in Leicestershire and its settling, light dusting for now but the snow is falling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gateshead reporting in. It's fookin snowing. Bollox.

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By *acktilMan
over a year ago

Tewkesbury

Grass now white! was looking to go to Xtasia with a good friend. Looks like a nice warm night in practicing rope work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Snow now in Milton Keynes and settling. An evening in for me. Last episode of Mrs. Browns Boys 9-30 BBC1

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By *om1noMan
over a year ago

South Worcestershire


"Grass now white! was looking to go to Xtasia with a good friend. Looks like a nice warm night in practicing rope work "
I'll join you if you want company ? , I'd love learn a lorry drivers dolly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Snow here and its settling, about 3 inches, and its still coming down........ and its ruined my weekend cos my fella had to leave today instead of tomorrow, just to be safe grrrrr!

(I am not that bigger bitch though, I would rather he gats back down south safely too)

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury

been snowing here since 2pm about 2 inches here where its sticking very fine tho not heavy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Grass now white! was looking to go to Xtasia with a good friend. Looks like a nice warm night in practicing rope work "

I shall look forward to getting all tied up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still no snow in Preston..... it sleeted for about 15 mins before lunch and rained since... Ive got snow envy!!

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By *om1noMan
over a year ago

South Worcestershire


"Grass now white! was looking to go to Xtasia with a good friend. Looks like a nice warm night in practicing rope work

I shall look forward to getting all tied up"

I guessed it might be you hoo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have bloody snow

Best not get too heavy as we have a meet planned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have a lovely blanket of snow started about an hour ago has come down heavy and settled. Still snowing.

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By *acktilMan
over a year ago

Tewkesbury


"Grass now white! was looking to go to Xtasia with a good friend. Looks like a nice warm night in practicing rope work

I shall look forward to getting all tied up"

Do I need to get the bamboo from the garage or shall we just go decorative?

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By *ooseLipsWoman
over a year ago

Durham-ish

We have a light covering here.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Snowing in.neverland......lots n lots

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By *4FantasyCouple
over a year ago

Spalding

I was going to say snow in Peterborough but swingershaz beat me to it

kazx

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By *ilandlarryCouple
over a year ago

more north lincs than mids!

been snowing in Lincolnshire from about 4pm. Lightly at first, then got heavier. Fair covering on the ground now, car struggled up a steep incline on a barely used road. In for the night for def!

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

No snow in Ipswich yet today

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By *atboxWoman
over a year ago

burton

mmmm 4inches

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its terible here..up to your ankle in stoke!

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By *ashful BazMan
over a year ago

poole dorset

Raining in Dorset now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Grass now white! was looking to go to Xtasia with a good friend. Looks like a nice warm night in practicing rope work

I shall look forward to getting all tied up

Do I need to get the bamboo from the garage or shall we just go decorative?"

Decorative i think, mmmm not sure now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have bloody snow

Best not get too heavy as we have a meet planned "

Same here, well sort of, my friend and I were planning what to do but going to a club in Birmingham is definitely out so guess we will have to get sexy with each other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No snow here in fife

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By *omnlynneCouple
over a year ago

milton keynes

snowing in MK and although its laying its not that heavy..however the open fire is roaring here looks like the tequila and oj will be coming out soon too (purely medicinal purposes only) and a night in with the tv awaits us here....

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By *acktilMan
over a year ago

Tewkesbury


"No snow here in fife "

You can have some of ours if you want

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By *nnebellWoman
over a year ago

somewhere

Snow up here on the north east coast, a white blanket covering everything, enough to make snowballs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

About 6inches here and it's still trying to snow some more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just looked out of thw window and yep it's snowing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's reached th outskirts of London where it's hit the pollution and turned grey. Lovely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"mmmm 4inches"

Def not a size queen!! oh the snow!!! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still snowing here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pontefract is like a winter wonderland with at least 4 inches...and no dog poo or pee stains on it yet which is nice!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

north manchester, covered in white with a touch of grey on the roads.

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By *erry and JuneCouple
over a year ago

spalding

Light snow in Spalding

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"north manchester, covered in white with a touch of grey on the roads.

"

South Manchester has several inches of grey on the roads, including the main roads

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

Been snowing here on n off since 12ish. Been out playing and sledging had a great time.

now in the bath pj's n wine at the ready for a night on the couch

Hope its gone by monday though

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By *edriderCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

no snow in glasgow but the sky is dark and clear and its baltic!

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West


"snowing here, but not staying as its too wet "

It snows in Scotland in the summer!

None in Southwest Wales yet..bleedin cold though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

North Africa is covered in snow!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not seen any on the Costa del Med yet though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just in, hot off the press - fine snow falling and settling just outside Brighton

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By *pple16Man
over a year ago

Macclesfield

Went to shoot a job at Shrigley hall cheshire rear wheel car didn't get up the hills lots of snow settled in the un gritted lanes, which is compressed to ice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its snowing its snowing

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West


"Its snowing its snowing "

Kingston Jamaica?

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area

Nothing here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

been freezing snow here all afternoon and early evening, settling and freezing on every surface.

but was raining last time i went out the door so no idea if it will stay, or if it will be like a skating rink in the morning.

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By *ouplefunukCouple
over a year ago

North Bristol

Snowed for 150 miles of our journey - blizzard conditions, snow settling on all the lanes, down to 40mph in places. 10 miles from Bristol? Turns to fekkin rain. Not a single flake of snow in sight.

I am NOT a happy bunny

*Her*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's just started here on Canvey island

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

light sprinkling beginning here on the the costa del meway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its snowing in Norfolk and settling hopefully enough for a snowman in the morning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

getting heavier n faster.

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By *acktilMan
over a year ago

Tewkesbury

Now raining in Tewkesbury and Gloucester so hopefully all the white stuff will be gone soon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looks pretty here now hopefully will stay around till tiny tots wake up xxx

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Just been out in the front garden with a tape measure.... the snow is now 4 and a half inches deep and still falling.

Tomorrow is gonna be great... I love it when it is all bright and white outside.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we have 5 inches of the white stuff here and took us 50 mins to drive 6 miles to outpatance at a and e as our daughter is poorly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Started snowing here at 10.30pm we now have an inch of just polystyrene type flakes no big flakes yet , i'm on east anglia coast

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By *teve196301Man
over a year ago

northumberland

Northumberland; Update as of 23.36 stopped snowing ages ago, at least 4-6 inches and can confirm no vehicles past the homestead for hours....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just back from the pub and its windy and wet in Portsmouth, but no white stuff; other than the shop in Gun Wharf!

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

I closed the curtains around 4pm not opening them or looking out till monday morning ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's melting already!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody stuck on A13 on way back to work from hospital not happy

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn


"Bloody stuck on A13 on way back to work from hospital not happy "

not so good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bloody stuck on A13 on way back to work from hospital not happy

not so good "

Back at work only took an hour to do what normally takes 15 mins and 6 hrs early for the early shift

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn


"Bloody stuck on A13 on way back to work from hospital not happy

not so good

Back at work only took an hour to do what normally takes 15 mins and 6 hrs early for the early shift "

why you 6 hrs early?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bloody stuck on A13 on way back to work from hospital not happy

not so good

Back at work only took an hour to do what normally takes 15 mins and 6 hrs early for the early shift

why you 6 hrs early?"

Cos left here to go hospital and the snow is that bad here was easier to come back and sleep than to go home and try get in for the morning

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn


"Bloody stuck on A13 on way back to work from hospital not happy

not so good

Back at work only took an hour to do what normally takes 15 mins and 6 hrs early for the early shift

why you 6 hrs early?

Cos left here to go hospital and the snow is that bad here was easier to come back and sleep than to go home and try get in for the morning "

Ahh I see, wise move

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2.05 in colchester. snow started at about 9.30p.m now have a good couple of inches laying and it is still falling by the bucket load. (we will not be venturing out until at least Tuesday) lol. any ideas what we can do to pass the time answers on a postcard please the postman likes me opening the door in me pjs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bloody stuck on A13 on way back to work from hospital not happy

not so good

Back at work only took an hour to do what normally takes 15 mins and 6 hrs early for the early shift

why you 6 hrs early?

Cos left here to go hospital and the snow is that bad here was easier to come back and sleep than to go home and try get in for the morning

Ahh I see, wise move "

They won't think that at 330 tomorrow when I'm stinky cos got no clean clothes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This evening it as bin mainly snowin. There is a lot of snow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lots of snow and the south east has ground to a halt. Very glad we didn't go to our planned club trip last night as the M25 got closed last night with motorists stranded for hours according to the BBC. Had a good time indoors in front of the fire instead!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can anybody tell me what the roads are like in the gloucester area?.....planning a trip to The Lodge this afternoon

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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon

jayne is heading back from Gloucester this morning, started at 0800 and if the roads were iffy she wouldnt have started as she's a nervous driver, so I guess they are ok.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thanks for that ....looks like my trip could be on

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By *thwalescpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

brecon

And.... it tried to snow here for some time yesterday... tiny little flakes, but it didnt stick, and then last night it rained goddammit!

Reports from friends say some parts of south Wales (the valleys and the south side of the Brecon Beacons mainly, all the way down to Cardiff and along the coast in both directions) got quite a bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No snow here in Swansea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a dandruff dusting here. Littleun is gutted he can't make a snowman, I'm sitting here in me shorts n slippers thinking, "thank fuck for that!"

Roll on Spring.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn

No snow here ... happy days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bitterly cold outside and a heavy frost, but no snow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

bin snowing al nite in boston lincs and just started again ffs of to london at 5am tomoro and im a shite driver lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had about 5inches

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i wished i had recieved 5 inches this morning lol OH are we talking depth of snow lol says wiv a glee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"bin snowing al nite in boston lincs and just started again ffs of to london at 5am tomoro and im a shite driver lol "

Remind me to stay of the Road when you on it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still no snow in Preston!!! really foggy this morning tho....

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Still no snow in Preston!!! really foggy this morning tho...."

You mean you got no white stuff at all on them hills over there? What a waste!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Enough snow for a snowman here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Enough snow for a snowman here "

Will he be VWE though? lol

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